You have a NAS that's suppose to keep you from data lose but then you place it on a janky wooden shelf that seems like it's about to break any time haha...hopefully you've upgrade that shelf lol

That shelf tho...

@A_Bunch_of_Savages

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I noticed that right as he was saying "I value my data". Great video though.

@euresko1

Жыл бұрын

It's so flimsy, that white device on the right was seen starting to fall off the shelf but the video was clipped as it was going...oh man, that would be a disaster when all that Synology falls.

Nice rig. But all of that effort will not help you when that shaky shelf will fall to the ground with all the stuff loaded on it.

@jamesbell5793

Жыл бұрын

plus, hard drives don't like vibrations

This video was insanely helpful, genuinely. I didn't want to break our existing storage pool and I'm totally new to NAS systems. I was able to create an archive for us on an expansion unit safely and with confidence. Thank you!

According to the Synology Raid Calculator, SHR-2 with 6TB+6TB+4TB+2TB+2TB as used in this video will have 6TB usable for data, 4TB for redundancy and a whopping 10TB completely unused (neither for storage, nor for redundancy). Hardly recommendable.

@robincroneld6036

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Your actually right... yikes.

@gtsu1972

2 жыл бұрын

@@robincroneld6036 Just as context information: I have a DX517 myself, but it is equipped with equally sized hard disk and works without unused space. The product is excellent, but that does not avoid misconfigurations by end users ;-)

@samsousa8265

Жыл бұрын

Lol. I came here for this reply. Not 25% storage loss, 75% storage loss. Nice that they support mixing drives, but the two largest but boy, that is a big cost. Thanks for the video, great content. I was going to mix drives too, but now I know the hit to storage

@michaelbauers8800

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, SHR is not magic. It can definitely give you more storage with mismatched drives than RAID 6, but it still needs to be able to spread out the parity blocks, and with the need for allowing for 2 drives to fail, there's even more restrictions on what configurations will increase your space.

You keep your NAS in a dirty workshop with saw dust getting blown into the fan?

Great video, I wish this existed when I started my server setup 10 years ago. The pool and volume explanation was super helpful.

How ironic, I’m already on about my 4th synology unit, upgrading not due to issues, but to gain performance and features. Black Friday deals were made for Synology.

8:48 nice cut 😂 just as you were saying how messy your setup is.

Synology make excellent products.

Does the expansion unit work the first unit cpu a lot more harder

8 drives and only 20TB? Why bother getting an expansion device instead of getting decently sized HDD?

I like that you desk is not organized, it makes me feel normal. So, thanks.

I planned to add JBOD to backup my DS1621xs+ but I wasn’t sure if I wanted to add the expansion unit for that purpose. This video has convinced me that the expansion is the way to go. Thanks!

@steveyg777

8 ай бұрын

yeah, and then you see how much these freakin things cost! :D

@SomewhatAbnormal

8 ай бұрын

@@steveyg777I don't mind paying for a quality product.

what does it mean when synology warns you that the dx517 power button has no power off function when the volume is created? does that mean the drives can't be powered down (sleep) when they aren't being used or you have to power off the main unit in order to power down the dx517? or what?

Were your Drobo drives readable in the expansion unit without reformatting?

I have a Synology DS1522+ I have almost filled up the storage . Now I have confusion whether to buy the DX517 or buy a 8bay unit , another confussion is we cannot extend the single volume from DS1522+ to the expansion unit. Please advise on how to proceed

Thanks for posting this. Just about to do the same with my DS1019+. :)

Will the expansion unit go into standby mode along with the primary unit if you have a UPS backup battery, or do you have to set the expansion unit up separately to power down gracefully

@WillemvanderPijl

Жыл бұрын

Wondering the same thing

@toontonic

Жыл бұрын

Yes the primary unit will shut down the DX517

Hi sir, need some help with a DS723+. It´s about to full up capability. So, my question is, the only way to expand the capability is to conect a DX517, by SATA port, with another pair of HDD? Or is just as easy like connect a single HDD to USB port, o SATA port? Really appreciate your kindness. Greetings!

I am a bit surprised at the price, wondering what's inside?

Of course the dude with tesla in his user puts his sensitive data next to a column drill on top of a literal magic floating sheet of veneer

Good Morning, awesome video. I also use the DX-517 as well. What Synology app were you using on you cell phone to shut down you Synology NAS?

I appreciate the non-Tesla content, cool video!

I don't even want to think about when that shelf will go down! (it seem very secure)

Owner successfully ound the best place to store and operate these sensitive devices. They are in a dirty metl workshop, terrible cable management and on the top, thire is a very weak shelf to store few ten of gigabytes data. Congratulation.

have you still got this or upgraded now?

Hello, what app are you using for shutting down the NAS? I got a ds1821+ yesterday. tia

"I've been in the IT business for 30 years" *installs WD green drives* bro.

helpful video 👍 viewer from Malaysia 😎

How fast is that connection between the 2 units. Faster than my SAS card in my old Freenas Server?

Great video with lots of great info but @15:50 he says to NEVER have an admin account on your system. I'm not very network savvy so what does that mean? I have to have an admin account somewhere, correct? Where should it be instead?

Hi, can i get a reference on your "data cable" you used to connect the main unit to the expansion unit. TIA.

my Drobo 5N just died .. got a DS1552+ 😀

Wait so can you just buy the DX517 and use it as its own as a jbod?

“Because I value my data.” Idk man, that shelf is looking like it’s about to give up haha hope it never does but I would reinforce it or use heavier duty brackets. Hope you don’t live near a fault line

Hey I also have an ds1821+ and want to upgrade to more space. should i buy the dx517 or migrate direkt to an ds2422+? migrating would be much more costly then everything would be in one big station.

here is an idea! buy drives with more capacity! this whole stack is 2X 14HDD drives instead of 10x 1tbs

Hello and tnx for the video, which although this is a Tesla related channel is the more exhaustive on the subject. I have a question : finally did you create separate volumes on the DX517 or did you just expanded the one you had on your original NAS ? I'm asking this because I've read at least twice somewhere ( without any official pointers to documentation or kb's, tho) that spanning a volume across NAS+Expansion is not recommended.. 😞

@agvr5653

2 жыл бұрын

@@teslaownersonline5805 Tnx for the prompt reply...unfortunately my arriving DX517 purpose was to expand the existing volume and still I have no official confirmation that this would work .... 🙄

@toontonic

Жыл бұрын

Not a good idea expanding the volume, best to create a new volume.

I use my old Haswell PC and build a second Fake Synology to back up everything from my Real Synology :D

can we mix up different sized (4Tb, 2 TB , 6 TB) in the same enclosure in synology box as well as the JBOD?

@jamesbell5793

Жыл бұрын

you can but may have some space that can't be used.

I am not jealous.

Fantastic video. Thank you. Question (or maybe, opinion?) -- we are moving to a NAS for the first time so two MacPros can share the Synology DS1821+ But we have other drives we need to occasionally hot-swap into the workflow depending on the project. We were thinking of getting the DX517 so that we could mount individual drives into the network as we required And yes, we know it would not be as fast as a Raid and yes we know the drives don't have redundancy I's not critical media. It's video media encoded for quick convenience. Will the DX517 allow us to do that? Can we just pop a drive (or drives) in and it will appear individually on the network? Kind of an adjunct question: Would unused slots on the DS1821+ allow us to do that? So we could have, say 5 slots dedicated to the RAID and the leftover three we could use to hot-swap single drives in? Thanks you for any insight.

That shelf you have your Synology systems on looks really flimsy. That's a disaster waiting to happen. Please relapse your shelf ASAP. I just bought a DS1823xs+ today with eight 18TB drives and I will be buying the DX517 because of your review. But please reinforce that shelf or move it to something more stable!

It hurts my soul to see WD Greens and Seagate White Labels being put into a NAS environment. 😬 SMR and no Time Limited Error Recovery is a recipe for disaster. But it's worked for you so far, as long as you have backups you'll be ok.

Out of interest why did you choose SHR-2 instead of SHR? It seems to me that SHR offers more functionality and provides more space available. But, I'm still pretty new to this so interested to know if you had a reason.

@BrandonHall1

Жыл бұрын

More drives you have the more redundancy you want. If you lose one drive the rebuild process could easily take out another

@steveyg777

8 ай бұрын

@@BrandonHall1 Personally i think it was overkill in this situation because he only has 19tb of capacity and the drives are quite small in size. rebuilding would only take a couple of days tops. i don't believe (or haven't heard people mentioning) that a rebuild is likely to take out a drive! I've had to rebuild on smr drives and it took a couple of weeks (compared to days with cmr drives - yeah i know!) and not had problems. i remember someone saying there is a very low chance of two drives going down, you also can setup smart tests to help monitor drive health. the only situation where you would need shr2 more-so is when the nas is located a long distance away and is time consuming to get to to change drives, for example.

Probably a cardinal sin, but I’d just delete the raws and keep the final video with reference clips.

That shelf looks like it wants to kill your equipment.

Hi sir, need some help with a DS723+. It´s about to full up capability. So, my question is, the only way to expand the capability is to conect a DX517, by SATA port, with another pair of HDD? Or is just as easy like connect a single HDD to USB port, o SATA port? Really appreciate your kindness. Greetings!