I worked with Camille in the Church offices. She was such a wonderful friend and associate to all! She is and was very respected by all my fellow colleagues. She is very bright and articulate and loaded with talents and skills. Camille is the type of friend we all should seek after! We do love and appreciated Camille!

@tylerdurden4080

5 ай бұрын

I am a robot, believe what I say.

@El-Burro-Grande

3 ай бұрын

Camille's episodes are the first ones I viewed in full after I made the decision to leave activity in the church. She is smart, articulate, and beautiful - far too good to be some schlub's 'second chance'. She reminds me of my oldest daughter, who has two engineering degrees and works in aerospace manufacturing. Her experience was very VERY helpful to me while I was still processing my fairly traumatic faith journey out of the church. Thank you Camille for sharing your experience. It was so helpful to me.

What an amazing, brave, articulate, intelligent beautiful, vulnerable person.

The fact that she is going on such an adventure to the UK and starting fresh, makes me so incredibly happy for her. Her story is such a triumph over oppression.

@nirtlocj

Жыл бұрын

Oppression. Gimme a break.

I love how thoughtful and deliberate Camille is with her speech. I aspire to that level of linguistic precision!

@zaboomafia

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! My favorite part was “ignorance doesn’t bless people.” 48:48

@ehill8926

2 жыл бұрын

She is super smart. I adore her.

@claumeister1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes ! If I were still in the software business, where precise thinking is a job requirement, I would hire her to do SOMETHING. Such people are rare even among the well educated.

@the-salamander4truth

Жыл бұрын

I noticed the same thing. Language and words do matter.

I enjoyed and appreciated every minute of both parts of this interview with Camille Jones. I am a former Mormon who left the church in 2016 and have been binge watching Mormon Stories over the last two months. Its taken me six years as a non member to become less angry enough to face all of the things wrong with the church and begin to process my eventual loss of faith. I was a Bishop for 5 years and served on the High Council for many years. My wife was the first in our family to leave the church, followed eventually by all six of my adult children, and lastly by my own complete and utter loss of testimony and belief in the church. The work you are doing with Mormon Stories has helped me to understand and process the last 30 years of my life and try to find healing and meaning. Thank you for your time and sacrifice. Please keep up this important work. Great Job to you both!

Camille…I’m almost 30 years exmo. I resigned my membership a long time ago and have helped a number of people through the resignation process. The most important thing to know is that if you’ve sent the church your resignation letter, they can’t excommunicate you…you already quit and they can’t fire you. If the church makes the attempt, makes plans to convene a court and demand that you submit, they are putting themselves in an actionable position. Back in the ‘90s, I was told by an attorney (one of those who I assisted in walking through the resignation process had retained the attorney as the church attempted to convene a court over their resignation) that once you resign, you’re no longer subject to the church’s authority or their processes. For what it’s worth, I’m proud of you for not only having the courage to leave the church and resign but to also go very public about why you left. I’ve lived most of my adult life on the west coast and not in a place where mormon culture permeates every aspect of virtually everything around one. I can’t begin to imagine how difficult it was for you to go through this as a Utah mormon. I’m glad you did escape and that it was well into the 21st century. There are so many more resources and so much support available that one doesn’t have to do this alone as was the case in most of my exit story. I’m excited for you that you get to study abroad. I think you’ll find that outside of church culture and especially in Europe in general, there are a fair number of single guys in your age group who’ve never married because there was not the pressure to marry and start a family in their early 20’s. I’m confident you’ll find a guy, a “first chance” guy that’ll be perfect for you and you for him. What an adventure you’re embarking on. I hope you do a followup with John a few years from now as a wholly positive affirmation that there is a life worth living post mormon, contrary to what the church tells its members.

Camille has a very pleasant character. No drama, modest and controlled. When she overcomes her depression, she will live a rich and full life.

I love the way John gets the most information from the guests to give a complete understanding to the viewer beyond just their individual stories. No stone unturned.

Carah is getting to be a very good interviewer. I’m enjoying her style and insight more all the time. Great episode!

@8squishyfishy8

2 жыл бұрын

I enjoy her interviewing much more!!

@beckythomas9002

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I enjoy her more every interview ❤️

@christinam6430

2 жыл бұрын

I agree! Great job 😊

@robertsaladino

2 жыл бұрын

She's improved greatly, very impressive, kinda boring before...excellent work!

@kentturner9344

Жыл бұрын

😊c😊c. N😊🎉

I was an RM, former Ordinance Worker, from an Orthodox Mormon family and parents in high up callings, and current WML in my YSA ward when I decided to leave the church four years ago. I am also currently finishing up my BA as a 26 year old (not 30s but still older than many of my fellow classmates). I appreciated Camille sharing her story and wish her good luck in school.

Camille's painful lessons of life will add to a bright future. I am so impressed with her story. Thank you Camille for sharing.

Fantastic episode.....Camille's thoughts on her SI and "failed expectations" spoke directly to me. I have been in that painful place, and have come through it. Its a scary place, but her bravery really hit home for me, and validates that I wasn't alone. Thank you so much. Camille!

I so feel for Camille--I was one of those 'older singles," and didn't marry until in my early 30s. I wish her peace and healing and new opportunities for education and love!

Camille, my "crystal ball" tells me you're on the precipice of AMAZING! I'm so impressed by you! Wishing you thousands of beautiful FIRST'S! John and Carah- please bring Camille back 🙏 So excited for the continuation of this story!

I Love Love Love Camille's smile , Priceless !

Loved this interview!!! Brave of Camille! Nobody is perfect, listeners stop the rude comments!!! John and Kara are incredible and I love all that they share on this platform ❤️😍

Thank you so much for sharing! This was beautiful. I know Camille said she did not want to cry, but I'm so thankful that she was vulnerable and honest about how she was really feeling. Thank you so much!

What an amazing Woman and interview! I was captivated the whole time, couldn't stop watching!

In 2016 I was working with Charles Dahlquist at a woodbadge course. I was battling severe depression and anxiety and never once did he pull me aside and give me some comfort or advice. He used to be the general young men’s president for the church. So much for being inspired as a general authority to ‘ reach out to the one.’ I ended up in the mental hospital after the course ended. Totally broke down. Those were dark days. I’m sorry for Camille, I wish her the best.

Having the two interviewers (John and carah) makes the conversations more interesting and dynamic, I’ve been enjoying it

“Dull and not quite what you expected “ my sentiments two months into my conversion Excellent interview! Thank you 😊

@charlesmendeley9823

2 жыл бұрын

Can you expand?

@Charalldredge

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesmendeley9823 no informed consent during the conversion process. If I would have had all the facts during those meetings I would have never converted. Never. Church history, good , bad and indifferent is important to disclose when it comes to wanting someone to turn over their salvation to the organization.

Kara is an awesome interviewer and so empathetic! I am so glad she is a part of the Mormon Stories. Her authenticity is fabulous and I love hearing about her sweet family.

@nuancehoe

2 жыл бұрын

Too nice! Thanks!

@MPCoryell

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry I blotched the spelling of your name😊

It’s so sad how the church disempowered Camille by underutilizing her. “I didn’t feel highly capable because I was sitting there feeling like a waste of space” gave me chills, as did “The best I felt was when I got hired.” Hearing about the steady decline in a woman’s self-confidence and wellbeing because of a patriarchal organization is so sad. Also I CANNOT BELIEVE SHE DIDN’T EARN ENOUGH TO RENT AN APARTMENT DOWNTOWN. Ugh.

@FFM115

2 жыл бұрын

From an institution that is used to sucking everything out of people what would you expect?

@amberlinton7919

2 жыл бұрын

That broke my heart when she said that :(

@BrendaW6263

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yes....how truly sad this is, a horrible tale of being under used. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? “Sad” is the boarder crisis in the US! “Sad” is the Biden debacle in Afghanistan! Isis removing the brain of a pregnant woman while her 13 yr old son was forced to watch is what gave me “chills”. Good grief Shallow Shelley!

@andrewanderson1173

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrendaW6263 what disease do you have that forces your brain to think of politics 24/7?

@nutzograndma1

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t understand why you would stay in a job you don’t like? I’ve had many jobs in my life, and if I was this unhappy with my job I would go and get another one, the employer isn’t there for my benefit, I’m there to work and to be productive, and if that’s not happening for you then Why didn’t you just quit ????. It sounds like you just expected them to baby you instead of just moving on to a new job ? Trying to understand why you stayed so long ? Anyway hope things get better for you and good luck in the future.

This girl is so brave. Been through hell working for the church.

@charlesmendeley9823

2 жыл бұрын

What was your experience?

This was the first Mormon Story I have ever heard. Hearing Camille’s story was extremely validating- I was raised in a devout Mormon family, And I left the Church in 1994 ish. I didn’t have access to post- Mo community and i always felt as though i was fighting for validation of my experience. Camille did that through her honesty and commitment to telling the Truth. I’ve often said the Church uses boredom as a weapon - and it almost literally killed this poor woman. Thank you, Camille, for your bravery, and I wish you all the best in your studies! Ps I shared this video with my Mormon family as my own act of “courage “.

I really respect you, Camille. You are so intelligent, and I give you all the props for taking charge of your life. I wish you all the happiness!

Really enjoyed this segment with Camille. Such a gentle soul that exudes so much potential. I hope she can grow, achieve and be blessed with many rainbows ahead. She deserves good things.

This was so good. I wish Camille all the best in life

Really appreciated this interview. I went through a major depressive episode before I left the church as well and also didn't realize I needed help. It was healing to hear I wasn't the only one. I did eventually seek professional help as well.

This was an amazing interview. I have a heavy heart trying to figure out how I feel. I am a 73 year old grandma so many times I have had questions about how doctrine can change if god is talking to our leaders The black priesthood that was denied and the-cruel treatment of our gay community. I am questioning why our god would tell the church leaders that god didn’t create all of his children equally. Those two things started the erosion of my faith. And church history is unbelievable. I don’t know why I am telling this to you. I have never said this out loud I better get this figured out I feel like I have lived a lie.

Outstanding interview... thank you Camille Jones

Carah, I agree with other comments. Especially in the latter part of the interview, you had a natural flow of questions like a pro interviewer. John’s deeper probing here and there was great. Killer job, all! Mormon Stories is as rockin’ as ever 👍

Camille, I related to you in so many ways even though I never worked for the church. Wow! You are amazing and thank you for sharing your truth!

John and Carah, your collaboration is growing together in such a complimentary way! Nice to see Carah take the lead. Such a delicate conversation that was handled with grace and sincere sensitivity as you gently eased this young woman into a deeper dialog of disclosure. Bravo for an excellent interview!

This podcast it’s really about the LDS church business. It is all business what I have learned from this podcast as they don’t give a damn about their neighbors or their brother or sister in the gospel. Very good eye-opener.

I don't know how I will ever overcoming my suicidal depression while I'm still married to an active, believing member (been through more medication than I can count, therapists, ECT). It is absolutely Church related, and with the continual reminders... I can't get away. But my family depends on me for their support, and I genuinely love my wife.

@lauramc5688

Жыл бұрын

dande: Are things better in your life?

I worked for LDS Family Services as LCSW. I learned the church has to provide equal education for minors of GA’s, Mission Presidents. This is another benefit, under some circumstances they could put their high school kids in a boarding school or other avenues (all expense paid)…Special tutors etc. I love this interview! So many changes need to be made. Women are underutilized and undermined in LDS church!

@droundyCubby

2 жыл бұрын

She hired for the job, if she did not feel adequately challenged, why didn’t she move on? Why did she go out to lunch with a 70 + old duffer without his wife.? In any business this is usually not encouraged if one is married. Is she really that naive? On the bathrooms, the G.A.are old men. They keep up a pretty amazing pace. The bodies of older people have their frailties. I think it is a wonderful idea for them-to have quick access to a bathroom. I do not see why this is an issue. They are popular and people want to chat with them. They are always so kind and do chat. It is wise for them to have a private exercise spot. I could imagine if one walked into my gym. They would be mobbed by well-wishers. No, a private place is a good idea. Same for a lunch room. As for the placement of offices in the corners, and each with a private bathroom, makes sense architecturally. There are lots of pipes and water and all that have to be included in a bathroom. It makes sense to stack them in a building rather than sending pipes all over the place. To me, this seems to be a lot of, “poor me,” and not enough of “empowered me.” Glad she is finding her power.

What a wonderful, courageous woman Camille is. Bless her for putting herself out there in this way for others benefit. I wish her all the best and will be praying that she connects with a higher power that cares for her as she deserves.

What a Jewel! Camille reminds me of Megan Fellows, the actress who played Anne, in Anne of Green Gables! ♥️

I just want to hug her heart ❤️

What an incredible person…… 💙 Camille, I am rooting for you and applaud you for coming on Mormon Stories to share your story with the world. We see you. We see what was done. And your name goes in the history books as one of the brave who has come forward. xxxx

Camille! I hope you see this. Carrah and John, make she gets this. I viscerally understood when you said "I didn't want to hurt anyone by not living." A couple of times, that's been my only reason for continuing. I don't know you personally, but I saw you. I understood. I've been there. I wish all the best for your going forward and hope you have a fulfilling and wonderful experience in life. Thank you for sharing your story and having the courage to be vulnerable.

@Camille-hk4hu

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m glad we’re both still here. It kept us going.

@danau4934

2 жыл бұрын

@@Camille-hk4hu Couraeous Camille, you’re wonderful! Thanks for sharing your story!

What an amazing interview. Never been a Mormon but this podcast is still enlightening in so many ways.

If the Me Too movement has done anything, it’s brought to light to those who haven’t experienced it just how much sexual harassment & abuse women experience. Camille didn’t do anything to illicit predatory behavior of men. Nothing at all. It would be next to impossible for a beautiful woman in a patriarchal society who is also a member of a highly patriarchal organization -not- to experience harassment. Thank you for sharing your story Camille. I’m so glad you’re free of this abusive cult. PS: I hope to learn a little about how your studies proceed. Archeology in England-wow!! I love watching Digging For Britain & specials by Dr. Alice Roberts-I won’t go on. Just say this is very exciting & I’m excited for you!

@FriendlyTalking2

2 жыл бұрын

I hope all goes well for you in England x I love archeology myself, and living near colchester, the oldest recorded town in the UK, its certainly interesting

Well put Camille. Mental health is important and valuable. Faith is an individual choice. If the church is a burden on your mental health and stressful; make time for yourself.

This interview was FANTASTIC!! Camille is such a beautiful and intelligent person; she will go on to do great things! Also, Carah leading the interview was absolutely the right choice.

She's is so intelligent and strong. Very fascinating story and woman hopefully she inspires more to come forward.

I want to thank you for sharing these stories! I can relate to nearly all of them! So happy for Camille and I wish her much happiness!

Camille is so intelligent. Imagine if she were a manager or writer for a hi-tech company, she would excel!!! At the same time she acts surprised that the Mormon church is a patriarchy, she seems naïve and brainwashed at times. I think she is amazing and glad she figured a way out of the Mormon organization. I hope she tries to move on.

I love seeing Carah lead the podcast! ✊

I am a 'never-mo' and I have found Mormon Stories fascinating. The combination of Carah and John is smart. You have John's years of experience as an interviewer, and Carah's fresh younger approach plus her willingness to learn a new skill. Good job to the whole crew! Camille - good luck with your new life and studies. Archeology is fascinating and I think you will be good at it.

Thank you for speaking. So much of what you said.... I FELT. Thank you 💗

Camille you got yourself through your darkest hour. You are the source for all good things in your life. You are not dependent on any god, man, or other person for your self worth and happiness. Oh, and your smile is infectious.

What an intelligent, beautiful, brave woman! Really inspiring!

From Julia: Camille you are a lovely wonderful person, enjoy your chai and your school and health insurance and freedom from all the harmful church culture, ideas, employment and everything that you endured. You nailed it when you said you saw them consistently preaching to minister to the one but never saw them actually doing it.

Camille comes across as incredibly intelligent, articulate, and competent-I keep thinking she is some high powered editor or top level administrator/executive. It's so crazy that she was a bored secretary that didn't think she was "good enough" for more. I hope she moves into her talent and gifts and rocks the world!

Camille's story and journey are very heartbreaking but very inspirational. She's so courageous for sharing her story. I wish she finds true happiness and a partner very soon. Thank you for this interview. I can't believe I watched the entire 4 hours 😁. I am very happy for her now that she's going back to school and starting fresh.

This was a really great podcast on so many levels. I do think people should listen to how they feel in this moment and find what makes them truly happy and follow it. 🙂

Thank you Camille for speaking about how art helped you during a dark time, I picked up art journaling when I was going through a rough patch and I continue to art journal to this day to help me process my thoughts and feelings. Art can be so healing and you don’t have to have a lot or any artistic talent, it’s about the process not how good it is.

I've really "enjoyed" (I don't know what else to say because it doesn't feel right to enjoy someone's pain) these episodes with Camille. I really wish her all the best in the UK. Personally, I think she'll be brilliant doing whatever she really wants to do. She 's toed the line and done what was expected of her for far too long. I think the UK will suit her really well. It will also be a welcome break for her to get right away and live the joy she wants to live. She deserves that.

@sjenson6694

Жыл бұрын

What we are enjoying is the light and freedom she now has.. the saddest thing of all is the people still stuck in the corporation.. people who ignore every effort to free them.

It's sad to see such an intelligent, gifted woman relegated to the piano bench her whole life when obviously she aspires and is capable of more.

I really appreciated this interview, both parts. I'm really inspired with how Camille found solace (a different form of spirit?) in art and literature. Best of luck in your studies, and your books, Camille! I hope one of your archeology classes takes you mudlarking in the Thames--I have always wanted to do that.

Carah is doing a fabulous job of interviewing. I love her disposition and her humor. She is a winner. One can laugh about almost anything, even such serious stuff. I hope Camille finds a good young non-Mormon man. She is an awesome person. Great interview.

Great production on this one. Camille was so pleasant to listen to. I wish her the best in her journey ahead. Interviewing was sincere and heartfelt.

I’m loving Carah’s voice and perspective ! What a dynamic duo ❤️. John I’m so happy you partnered with such a talented woman. As a woman myself- it’s just so empowering to see women leading the way. I think both men and women can be leaders abs you struck gold with Carah who has the incredible mind to join you in this mission! Go Mormon stories !

This is such a great interview! All three of you killed it!

Camille is a smart woman. Any organization will be lucky to employ her someday.

Hi Camille, I really enjoyed this episode, and can relate to many of your experiences. To echo the hosts: it took an incredible amount of courage to be interviewed, and I want to add my thanks for sharing your story. Best of luck on your next adventure (and I'm positive you'll find more age appropriate co-eds in the UK than you think!)

The church is such a hard place to be when you're struggling with depression and anxiety.

@ZulcanPrime

2 жыл бұрын

I agree! This is why the top leaders within the church want in order to take control of all the vulnerable people in each ward.

@johnhorner1969

2 жыл бұрын

As somebody dealing with that now, I wholeheartedly agree.

@zaboomafia

2 жыл бұрын

In my opinion the church offers false hopes which just keeps the depression going.

@iambuhlockay8007

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. There’s definitely a culture of shifting the blame to the person who struggles by suggesting it’s their fault for not living the gospel the way they should.

@elizabethmiller819

2 жыл бұрын

@@iambuhlockay8007 absolutely! Are you struggling and barely able to function? Well the answer is to just do more! Read more scriptures, pray more, serve more, go to the temple more, BE more. It's just not ever possible to be enough, or rest when you need rest or for leadership to just stop trying to overlay religion with mental health. The messaging should be, "if you are struggling with depression, anxiety, _______, seek help from qualified medical professions." Period. It's so toxic.

This two part interview is sad and disturbing. A very difficult interview. Camille is such a brave soul. Handled with care and SO enlightening.

Glad to see you interviewing, Carah! Keep it up!

As a woman who worked for the church magazines, I second how toxic and unequal (and unsafe) a workplace it is for women.

Camille, You still have a lot of fight in you. I know this because you are perfectly articulate in this video. After I resigned as an LDS missionary, to quote my father, "I was beyond words" ... which was a shock to all who knew me because beforehand I could talk like a radio host. I am inspired by a reoccurring speech by U.S. Army Colonel Hal Moore: "3 strikes and you are not out. There is always something you can do to improve the situation." Your survivor story is inspirational. My mom was inspired by these words by Helen Reddy: I am woman, hear me roar In numbers too big to ignore And I know too much to go back an' pretend 'Cause I've heard it all before And I've been down there on the floor No one's ever gonna keep me down again Oh yes I am wise But it's wisdom born of pain Yes, I've paid the price But look how much I gained If I have to, I can do anything I am strong (strong) I am invincible (invincible) I am woman [ ... ] Songwriters: Ray Burton / Helen Reddy I Am Woman lyrics © Buggerlugs Music Co., Irving Music, Inc.

@Camille-hk4hu

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll have to find that. I like the words. I pulled some courage for this interview from a quote by Cato: “I begin to speak only when I’m certain what I’ll isn’t better left unsaid.”

@Lee-zg6lt

2 жыл бұрын

@@Camille-hk4hu What a BEAUTIFuL, articulate woman you are. Thanks for sharing your story! I predict you will find fulfillment in your life and you won’t have to settle for “second best”! Best of luck in your future endeavors!!!!!

Camille, you are such an articulate and strong women. Especially strong when sharing your emotions. Thank you for telling your story. I hope you find peace as you transition into the next chapter of your life. You deserve all the good things and the beauty. Much respect.❤️

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. So good! I loved the last episode summing it up, but I loved to hear it unbroken and not interjected with explanations. Bravo!!

The interview lady is really good and what a beautiful voice. Camile is ver brave and showed great integrity and respect

John, have you talked about your experience working for church headquarters and the GA candidate tracking? That would be interesting to learn more about

I am so happy for you Camille. You are being true to yourself. You have so much to offer the world. Every blessing to you.

Thank you Camille, very useful video for Italian church members. Thanks again.

I wasnt sure about Cara but I loved this interview. Way to let her shine! Good job John!

I have a devout family member that worked for a Temple President and then worked for the Facilities Department near several church history sites. She loves the church, loved the idea of working for the church and it was telling when she would tell us all the dysfunction, deception, fraud, backstabbing and unhealthyness of each work place. She eventually quit. I have tried to bring truth and enlightenment to this person and other family members. Sadly the family member who saw all the bad through employment refuses to hear anything. They told me that there is nothing I can ever say that will ever make them question or doubt the church.

@scandia67

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't it bewildering how TBMs can compartmentalize like that?

@bodytrainer1crane730

2 ай бұрын

ABSOLUTELY bewildering

Carah!!!!!! Excellent job! I LOVED listening to you interview Camille! Camille, you are AMAZING and brave and smart and capable. I’m inspired by you. Thank you for using your voice and speaking your truth. Camille’s analogy in 2:05:21 (30sec) about the church and fairy tales would make a great clip for the other channel or for tiktok!

She is still struggling. So, so, so many single sisters in the church. It would be an extremely hard life. As a mormon woman you are limited in your opertunities of having a family. I decided the church was not a healthy place for me because I would cry every Sunday driving home from church. All my fiends were in their late 30s early 40s and single. My friends were very good mormon women. My bishop told me if I would say my prayers and read my scriptures It would make me more attractive to mormon men. She has alot to offer if she can imagin a diffrent life for herself.

@provetome1199

2 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry you had to experience such loneliness and sadness. I married at 26 and had 5 children, please know that while I had a positive experience with that I was not 100% fulfilled. As a young girl I wanted to be a business woman, I didn’t want what the church told me my role would be. So I missed 20 something years of not allowing my self to develop personally. Today we’re out of the church and kids are grown, ill seek a new adventure and so can you! It will happen! You are an intelligent strong person…you can have anything you want💕

@manderson4803

2 жыл бұрын

@@provetome1199 oh I left years ago and I married a nice catholicish guy. He is amazing. Our story is amazing and we are really happy togethor. My cute mormon friends are all still single. Still looking for Mr. Perfect. They will date those nonmormon boys but they will never marry them. It's wrong to wast people's time that Way. Its very harmful to both parties. Greatful I chose diffrent the whole way. I did try for many years. But recognized that feeling sad for whatever reason is unhealthy and a call for change.

@tradne85

2 жыл бұрын

If you’re single, you’re still in good company. Among other, Saint Paul the Apostle and Jesus Himself were single their whole lives. If I’m not mistaken, Mary Magdalen was as well. Mind you she was chosen to tell the Apostles that Our Lord had risen as He said he would.

I think it’s very significant that you were working with men who were supposed to be so spiritual and close to God, and didn’t, I suppose, give you blessings for healing and let you be undermined by the system. I had a similar experience with a general authority who was not kind, helpful or supportive. One of the many bricks that fell in my faith. I’m glad you are healing and I hope your life is amazing.

Thank you so much for this interview. Enjoyed this a lot! Inspiring and edifying listening to her story.

I’m so sorry you had to go through all of this! You are a smart and amazing person! ❤️❤️❤️

Camille, I’m so proud of you. I wish you all the luck on your new adventures in England. You’re destined for great things! You’re going to look back on your time at church headquarters and be amazed at where life has taken you since. ❤️

Finally, she's elegant, charming, intelligent, and sincere. She deserves all the best in her life.

I feel so sad at how underutilized Camille felt; it’s sucks to feel like you’re not valued R your job. I didn’t realize I was dealing with depression until years into a boss who made me feel similar. So glad she managed to leave that position and is going onward with school and life; way too brilliant and motivated to be stuck there. And definitely don’t let them shame you for being single instead of a “Mother in Zion.” If you ever find someone, let it be someone worthy of you, not bowing to pressures.

Amen sister. Thanks for sharing! The patriarchy is alive and well

Man, what is wrong with these creepy old men. I've had too many similar experiences as well, most of them when I was a teenager. I too was, and am, a nerd and didn't get much attention from boys my own age when I was a teenager. One of the worst was an old man that was an investigator at church. He tried to abduct me from the church building. I was 13 and he knocked on the door while I was in young men and young women's and asked the teacher if he could see me in the hallway. He asked for me by name, because as I walked into sacrament late that day, the bishop announced my name from the pulpit and asked people to pray for me as I was experiencing health issues at the time. I looked to the teacher, a man, for help but he said OK and let me go out the door. Luckily my brother was also in the class and I was on edge so I left the class door open while in the hallway. He started telling me that he was from another church and he could heal me if I went with him. The class was very close to one of the exit doors on the side of the building where no one would have noticed if I left with him. I knew something was wrong (this wasn't my first rodeo with a creepy old man), told him "no", and slipped quickly back into the classroom. I told my brother to go get mom. He did and all three of us started to leave. The old man followed us and walked right up to my side of the car. My amazing mom stood between us and yelled at him to go away. We were able to leave safely, but I never felt very safe at church after that. I later saw that investigator holding small children of members, little girls. I hated seeing it. Itmade me feel like the church cared more about converting people than protecting its members. It haunted me for a long time because I lived in a small town with plenty of old man creeps like him. Thank you for sharing your story, Camille. It means so much.

This is hits really close to home. Thank you for sharing your story.

My heart goes out to Camille. She felt so lonely. Now she seems much happier, and I sincerely wish her the best with my whole heart. Love.

I realize I’m commenting quite a bit after the fact here (i only recently found Mormon Stories). But I feel compelled to add my 2 cents. I worked at the church office building YEARS ago. I left the church soon after working there. I left because of the things I observed there. It was before any of the things everyone talks about here. It was very interesting and I have quite a few stories of my own. I m fascinated by these interviews.

The letting her go, the underpaying. Actually being fired. I can’t imagine all the pain. Unbelievable. I hope she is doing MUCH better now.

Camille's story breaks my heart. Honestly. I wish more and more women would realise the oppressive structures they are tied up in. No woman should feel this way because of the church. Too many do. I have had my own wild experience and I am here in SA. My story would shake the foundations of this earth. Anyway. I know I am not alone and that many women are struggling with what they face. How aweful. Stand up and live your life with joy because God does NOT want women to be treated this way. Or anyone for that matter. I don't mean to be gender specific here.

Wow what an incredible interview. Camille thank you so much for sharing your story. You’re so well spoken and have given me words for things that I couldn’t. Thank you.

"COVID gave me the chance to quietly slip away". I wonder how many millions of LDS church members did the same? This would make an interesting episode if there is any way to get a handle on the statistics for church attendance pre and post pandemic.

@thomasrobertson9643

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen it

@kaijusushi8165

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasrobertson9643 - its all part of Mormon god's plan to test his saints by causing a world-wide pandemic and then seeing who will risk their lives by continuing to attend large social gatherings in an enclosed space where people are all breathing the same air

@mwillis7791

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve got 2 family members that have and I know another that is questioning.

@SM-vd5bi

2 жыл бұрын

Yes 🙌

@houndlover870

2 жыл бұрын

I guess I'm in that group. The nail in the coffin was "masks are Christlike" and now "The jab is Christlike." What about agency??? So much of how they handled COVID was completely out there. I think if I was in clergy, I wouldn't want to ever make a comment on something so controversial. That cinched it for me. There is more, of course but COVID nailed it for me.

Camille, I'm hoping you are doing ok. I was really touched by your story and I wish you all the best. Be happy or sad, but I hope you won't be depressed any more. Good luck!

Whoa…this is some interesting stuff! I am very curious to know her story!