3:15 this is a misconception we’ve seen shirou project multiple divine constructs not just Excalibur across multiple different series.

@whateverwhatever4476

Ай бұрын

If you referring to prisma then that's not canon and Nasu has already stated he can't.

@adam-dn3hi

11 күн бұрын

@@whateverwhatever4476 his talking about FSN in which shirou projects excalibur in HF and FGO where archer projects excalibur nasu DID NOT say he cannot project divine consturcts he stated he cannot make REPLICAS which is a PERFECT reconstruction but he can still make inferior versions

that intro is fire as fuck

Great video love it ❤

Your editing skills are getting better especially the way you ended it, the transition to the black holy sword was EX-cellent, but I feel like you left somethings out, part 2 perhaps? Some of the things in the video were amazing and I am glad you mentioned them like Morgan having different personalities and Sefar background but somethings were missed or were not correct (for correction you can write a comment and pin it to the top) about the Greek gods, what you mentioned only happened in LB5 which is not actual PHH (Pan-Human History) so overall that is not to be considered canon, as lostbelts are just timelines that are actively trying to rewrite the Pan-Human History that are actual canon this is a simplification of what a lostbelt is so chill out Fate fans cut me some slack I have written 5 paragraphs already thus it wouldn't be right mentioning them here, the gods didn't come together, some died like Ares things happened and then someone showed up with Excalibur and blasted Sefar away and Gilgamesh does have some divine constructs such as Vajra, Vimana, Harpe, but he still doesn't have Excalibur or Avalon, now as for part 2: I know Artoria never removes them but she does have restraints on Excalibur, similar to that of Excalibur Proto, this was not only mentioned in the original VN but was further backed up in FGO, it is A++ rank because only one restraint is removed at best, like I said she has never done it but since both Excalibur have the same restraints and both were created for the same purpose it isn't that crazy to think that Artoria's Excalibur can also change it's type and rank when 7 restraints are removed, now I don't remember exactly if Proto-Arthur removed 6 or 7 restraints but when he did his Excalibur is ranked as EX and it's type or classification is unknown. Saber was able to hold off EA to catch Gil over guard in Fate route in the VN, this was base Excalibur and Gil does say he is going to go all out, Excalibur is eclipsed without any issue but it gives Saber time to use Avalon which catches Gil off guard and since he can't stop EA once it starts spinning she is able to close the distant and Excalibur him. To get the second video to 8 mins you can put in that Excalibur's true name can be called whether or not it's restraints are removed or not, which I think Proto-Excalibur can't do for that to be activated Arthur needs to removed 6 restraints I believe (I don't remember now it has been ages since I last delved into Proto-Arthur, but in any instance we see the guy he does remove restraints to fire it so yeah) and this is more of a fact for Avalon but lump it here anyways, that Saber can fire Excalibur many times if she has Avalon. Lastly there is a theory in the fandom that the Excalibur was forged from the Light of the Creator God, like the God in Abrahamic religions Christianity, Judaism and Islam this is just a theory, because king Arthur always said that this sword Excalibur was the greatest blessing or reward given to him by God, since he was a Christian (assuming here don't get mad Twitter) and he along with Merlin knew it's true power, it is a possibility, this is however a theory and doesn't need to be in the video just thought it was a fun theory to mention, this would also explain why Sefar was nuked by it and why it can release a divine-spirit level power. That is enough fanboying over Fate for one day, if you read all that hope you have a nice day.

i heard some cap in fate stay night 2006 gilgamesh summon the original version of excalibur and he summoned it in strange fate vs alcides

@NaozaneST

Ай бұрын

That was Merodach : The original sin. The predecessor to all of future Sword of Selection (Caliburn, Gram, etc) And no, not the original of Excalibur, but Caliburn, the sword of Selection, one that Artoria pulled out from the stone. Edit : It's much stronger then Caliburn.

I wonder who was the first wielder of Excalibur, the who defeated the White Titan?

@Nekogami04

2 ай бұрын

Probably an A-Ray fairy of some kind, they created it and kept it protected within the reverse side after all.

Incredible video Bro, That switch up showing off Excalibur Morgan was badass asf!

@mocha13

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!!! You're the only one that's mentioned it so far so you have no idea how much that means lol, glad you liked it!

Amazing video. Especially the transition of Salter, that was actually clean ash. Keep it the good videos

@mocha13

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! Glad you liked that bit in particular, the edit was really fun for me.

Amazing video as always man

@mocha13

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Good as always

@mocha13

2 ай бұрын

Thank you thank you

I impressed! very well done!

@mocha13

2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

wow dude this video is amazing 😀

Ngl it would be interesting if Emiya was the one who beat the white titan.

@mocha13

Ай бұрын

This is easily the best theory I’ve ever read

Excalibur was only made (in the fate lore) when the alien god Sefar wrecked havoc in earth killing most of the gods in every mythology(their original form cause they still exist in their weaker versions) and Excalibur was made inside the inner sea of gaia making it the will of planet itself while Ea trancends human comprehension because no-one knows its true origins thus its difficult how or when it was created

@Nekogami04

2 ай бұрын

From the information we've been given, we know Sword of Rupture is the crystallization of the creation of the world; it is a divine construct created by the gods, and it's affected by Potnia Theron. This means it's an older divine construct, but it's younger than the arrival of the Olympian's since the Sword of Mars/Ares is the prototype for all divine constructs, and it was definitely created on Earth.

@johnmanapol9734

2 ай бұрын

The problem is Ea is not a sword in context or it's the basis of a sword specially when 3 of it's cylinders rotate it brings winds of destruction that tears fabrics of reality if you look at the sword of Mars it too spins either Ea is the original and the prototype is the sword of mars vise versa

@Nekogami04

2 ай бұрын

@@johnmanapol9734 Photon Ray is the prototype for all divine constructs, which would include Ea.

Can you make a Video where you also talk about the other Excalibur? Like the version of Castoria or Richards and Gawains ones.

@mocha13

Ай бұрын

I’ve honestly been struggling for ideas and that’s a great one! I’ll definitely do that, thanks!

@elitehenrylegio

Ай бұрын

@@mocha13 and maybe Boudica's sword which seems to be some sort of imperfect prototype of Excalibur.

Cool video, can u do morgan next. No one puts all her feats in a video

@nightshrine4257

2 ай бұрын

he literally mentioned he would in the video

@rudcol8164

2 ай бұрын

@@nightshrine4257 oh i must have missed it, do you have the time stamp so i can look back

@literalgarbage8014

2 ай бұрын

@@rudcol8164 9:35

I honestly think that there are beings on earth that are stronger than sefar, i think goetia and prime Solomon are, prime tiamat, ereshkigal alter, kukulkan, U-olga marie, prime Camazotz and a few others

@ssjokg4952

2 ай бұрын

The 12 Olympians Machine Gods are just as strong if not stronger and failed to beat Sefar, and it wasnt the other pantheons that stopped Sefar. The original wielder appeared because nobody could stop it(except combined 12 Olympians from the LB)

@borrxc3470

2 ай бұрын

@@ssjokg4952 Goetia and Solomon have a noble phantasm stronger than Excalibur so they should win, prime tiamat is stronger than both of them so she also would win, and the lb7 crew has feats and statements that just put them above sefar. Eresh alter was stated with only a fourth of gugalana to be able to stalemate sefar, kuku scales abore that version of Eresh with only a fourth of gugalana, Olga scales at full power to both of the as well and Camazotz fought ort who is at least hundreds of times stronger than sefar for thousands to millions of years and won in the end. Sefar also wouldn't be able to kill Camazotz, and even the ort that is super weakened in lb7 he is still above sefar because he's above a full-power eresh alter

@ssjokg4952

2 ай бұрын

@@borrxc3470 Goetia had to exterminate a few thousand years of human history to "fuel" that NP. And yet none of those was summoned/ordered to kill Sefar.

@borrxc3470

2 ай бұрын

@@ssjokg4952 when you use a character you use the version at their peak, goetias NP at his peak was the strongest and the counter force would never summon a beast to fight, Tiamat was in imaginary space at the time and the lb7 people are special cases for the world and wouldn't be as strong summoned normally

@ssjokg4952

2 ай бұрын

​@@borrxc3470 Okay then lets say that Shirou can fight on par with the Rounds or several OP Servants because some very specific version was able to win with very conditions. Lets say that Artoria is the STRONGEST just because Unsealed Excalibur is PURE HAX even tho she cant use it, nor was the OG wielder. Among those you had Mesopotamian gods as well who would be alive at that point and yet didnt rush in to fight. Very weird how they decided to just get nerfed into Divine Spirits instead of, I dont know, jumping Sefar. All of them, except Tiamat, were alive. They dont need to be summoned in nerfed vessels. So why were all of them destroyed in PHH and the British Lostbelt?

1:50 there is an exception though the shield noble phantasm of Achilles (correct me if im wrong)

Out of all wepons i would want it would be Excalibur cause complex multiverse wepon, able allow you to tank inf strength attacks, reaction speed faster then light, as well useful abilities i would want more as well avalon being the most broken defensive noble phantasm

You got the sefar section wrong. Zeus and the other gods fuse to beat Sefar in an alternate timeline where excalibur is never created. In proper human history they don't, and they are killed one by one, Ares being the last one and blah blah blah.

@zain.munirzain5872

2 ай бұрын

That was the lostbelt version in the video but I guess here it doesn't do much damage, in the end Sefar was put down by Excalibur but I do agree it still isn't right.

Ngl I agree with you but we haven’t seen Ea full power yet

The sword of humanity vs the sword of divinity

Uh, no. The Olympians only combined as a megazord in LB5. In PHH, the fact that they didn’t combined is precisely why they were defeated.

I want to correct two things that are incorrect about gate of babylon and the greek(at the time of the invasion atlantic) gods. About the gate of babylon it is a misinformation that is a easy mistake to make, I also believed it myself, which is the fact that the treasure only has human items, which is not true, actually he has all of divine origin too. To start from the beginning he already shows non-human treasures since the beginning of the fate series, in stay night he uses treasures like harpe the immortal killer weapon which is currently revealed to be even part of the divine authority of Zeus, and vajra which to describe In a fell words, if I'm not mistaken, it would be like the lightnings of the god Indra from Hindu mythology, these two are nps of divine origin, after that in fate zero he uses vimana who is a flying fortress, a vehicle of the hindu gods, to which Gilgamesh's version is more like a jet than a fortress(if you want to see a fortress version, in fgo, the king of lostbelt 4 arjuna alter uses it). Continuing, in fate/illya he uses treasures like the shield of the gods and hades cape of invisibility, who also are divine treasures, in the context of divine constructs for those who think he has divine treasures but not divine constructs(besides ea and the chains of heaven), he shows two ig-alima and sul-sagana, now for written proofs I remember two, there must be more but these are enough, in extra ccc he says specifically the only things that are missing in the vault are things crafted by post-humans using new concepts and items of extraterrestrial origin, just these two, anything beyond this must be in the treasury, including divine items, fairy items, and so on. furthermore in strange fake, in the first volume it is said with all the words that the treasure has everything human or divine. The second thing I wanted to comment on is that in the invasion of sefar 14000 years ago, the atlantic gods dont fused, they only did this in an alternate world, in normal history they fought her separate and they are all destroyed in consequence, what was left of their bodies would later be reincarnated as the Greek gods, divine spirits a lot weaker if compared to their true forms.

@mocha13

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the corrections!

@L10n36

2 ай бұрын

@@mocha13 thank you for replying, your videos are great, I just had to correct it, because it's a very common mistake in the community. A lot of people say that fate is complicated in the timeline, but in reality the complicated thing are details like this.

@zain.munirzain5872

2 ай бұрын

You were right about the divine constructs about him having some of them even in the original VN like Vajra but he still doesn't have Excalibur or Avalon right about LB5 part too, he possess the prototype of Caliburn but since in Fate Caliburn and Excalibur are different he doesn't have it in GoB, he might get it one day if he can...as a servant though I doubt he would be.

@L10n36

2 ай бұрын

@@zain.munirzain5872 yeah, i too believe that he doesn't have excalibur or avalon, but if he has it or not, has never been answered. so it wouldn't be wrong to think that he has it, because is still in the realm of possibility. Besides, as I showed, he has all divine treasures, not only some.

@zain.munirzain5872

2 ай бұрын

@@L10n36 I kind agree that there is a realm of possibility but it is still highly doubtful because had he possessed one I am pretty sure his massive ego would've made him pull it just to one up Saber, like he did with Caliburn and Shirou, let's not forget most of things he does and manages to pull off is because of his ego, like when he gave the command seals to Hakuno in CCC after she used all of them to form a contract with him, he said "Who do you think I am? Of course I have a couple of command spells lying around or something along those lines" he loves showing off and stroking his own ego, and considering what he wants to do to Saber, that would've only made him more well smug what I meant by some divine treasures/constructs was that he has them but we have only seen some.

Excalibur was created by God with the core of a star

1:00 GOB only contains TREASURES meaning noble phantasms that are not physical items for example a NP that is an ability granted based on a feat in a hero's legend are NOT contained within the gate of babylon 1:04 while some weapons existed prior in GOB most weapons are COPIES of the prototypes in the GOB not the exact same weapons 1:20 yes they are found in gilgamesh treasury gilgamesh obtained EVERY treasure on the planet this includes divine constructs that existed on earth at the time when he was alive 1:25 most servants posses atleast 2 NPs I am not sure WHY its said early on in the series that most servants have 1 NP but its much rarer to find a servant with 1 noble phantasm then 1 with multiple 2:07 small nitpick but HIS NAME IS HERACLES 2:23 the clip you are using here is not the noble phantasm you are listing you listed the anti unit NP gae bolg barbed spear that strikes with death but the clip you showed is of the anti army NP gae bolg soaring spear that strikes with death this are 2 different noble phantasms barbed spear is a technique cu invented by himself using the spear's ability and soaring spear is the proper technique of the spear taught to him by scathach furthermore iskander NP ioion hetairon is not the best example of an anti army NP it functions almost nothing like most of them it would have been better if you used the 2 gae bolgs as an example since they work PERFECTLY as a demonstration to the difference between an anti unit and an anti army

9:55 that is incorrect divine constructs cannot be REPLICATED but they can still be projected the projections will simply be imperfect and have faults in them 10:40 you accidently listed excalibur as anti army instead of anti fortress (you did this again with excalibur morgan later) 11:34 arthuria is not that tired by it if she has a proper amount of magical energy such as under rin or with avalon and her dragon core she can fire it multiple times in a row and be fine 12:59 she can only do that because of sakura near infinite magical energy it has nothing to do with its corruption quite literally ANY servant could do that with any noble phantasm if they had the magical energy reserves that she gained from sakura matou

Yes, It was infact stronger than EA.

@Sb142sf

2 ай бұрын

Its not lol 💀

@ShinyAzzy

2 ай бұрын

@@Sb142sf Another person who obviously dont read.

@Mitsuru-Miki

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@ShinyAzzyor people who doesn’t know how to scale properly. It’s literally stated that Ea and Excalibur’s output are relative. Ea exceeds and is stronger than the Anti-fortress A++ Excaliblast that Artoria dishes out. Ea is generally the stronger and more consistent option 99% of the time. Excalibur unsealed scales its power based on the opponent its fighting, whether they threaten humanity or the world. Like what happened in LB7 with U-Olga. Even without the special “buff” it gets, that version of Excalibur is literally just stronger than the relative one that matches (or in context weaker than) Ea. So yes in fact, Excalibur is stronger in pure AP than Ea.

@hassanhassan-os5oq

22 күн бұрын

​@@Mitsuru-Miki you're talking about ea and Ea alone the winds the Gilgamesh normal produces are the base AP of ea it's full power is when gil uses Enuma Elisha

@Mitsuru-Miki

22 күн бұрын

@@hassanhassan-os5oq not enough conclusive evidence to imply anything other than such when Excalibur and Ea with the actual attack Enuma Elish already clashed back in SN, which is fundamentally and universally accepted that it is stronger. Yes Excalibur was overpowered but the gap of strength between the two isn't miles or orders of magnitudes that a lot people think. Therefore they are relative in output with Ea having the upper hand thanks to its ability to rupture space.

anti world vs snti fortress, i wonder which is stronger? teal brain teaser

It cannot be stronger than EA. EA deletes from existence no matter what is on its way. Excalibur is powerful, but it represents only the wishes, dreams, thoughts... Of one nation, unleashing this energy in enormous, powerful blast, but that's it. In fact EA in theory should be the most powerful weapon in the whole fate universe.

5:02 guessing you forgot about the whole asking me to fact check your videos and that caused this terrible mistake zeus did not fuse with the other machine gods in proper human history he only did that in the atlantic lostbelt which is a pruned timeline(an alternate destroyed universe basically) and unlike what you said he managed to drive the white titan back in that timeline

in my opinion, it is impossible for excalibur to be stronger than ea. Ea was created before humanity, and represents the beginning of the world itself, and as such it can destroy the world, and it is not a sword. Of course this all goes to shit when more than 7 seals are released, in that case it'll just be a infinite raw energy that destroys everything. But also Sefar counters EA, and excalibur counters sefar, doesn't mean excalibur is stronger than sefar. Edit: I should mention, none of this matters, which sword is stronger solely depends on nasu, its inconsistent as hell and power scaling in fate is just an enormous waste of time

@literalgarbage8014

2 ай бұрын

Excalibur was neither forged by humanity, nor meant to protect it. Excalibur as a divine construct is made as one of several protection devices with the purpose of protecting the earth. Whether or not EA is older than humanity is henceforth irrelevant. Whi,e it is true that Excalibur is usually bellow that of EA, It's unsealed variant is supplemented with so much energy that even EA lacks any feats that'd even suggest it being placed before it. EA's most impressive feat that we know of would probably be in defeating a severely weakened Tiamat. Excalibur however was not used only to defeat Sefar(whereas I'm quite confident it was never mentioned that it was particularly weak against Excalibur to begin with) but also Draco, something that was accomplished with one blow. A beast who far surpasses even Goetia judging by their mana input. I feel as though it's safe to say that EA has a lower roof than Excalibur, seeing as it apparently has a rather quantifiable limit being negated by Enkidu in Strange/Fake, whereas Excalibur with no seals is capable of defeating beings who are practically stated to reach different dimensions. Though I am curious, how is EA countered by Sefar in an way other than Sefar simply being more powerful? Sefar's entire energy drain gimmick is also applicable to Excalibur

@Angras_advocate18

2 ай бұрын

What r u on about son? then how is it that Tsiah IV & plenty others constantly power scale this franchise

@supreme_king_ultima5370

2 ай бұрын

​@@Angras_advocate18ignore that comment it's mostly rubbish honestly..

@guesswho8556

2 ай бұрын

Excalibur at full power is thousands of times stronger than Ea. That's a fact.

@supreme_king_ultima5370

2 ай бұрын

@@guesswho8556 Wrong.. the only reason artoria won is because ascalon made her invulnerable

It is stronger then ea depend of the situation if ea is used to destroy the world exalibur will be stronger

@ssjokg4952

2 ай бұрын

Ea cant destroy the world anyway

@nightwolfnordberg9476

2 ай бұрын

@@ssjokg4952 it can't?

@Mitsuru-Miki

2 ай бұрын

@@nightwolfnordberg9476 nope it can’t. Already been established by Holmes and Da Vinci conversation in Shinjuku part 1.5. And yes this also includes other works that “states” Ea can destroy the planet like in Fate Strange Fake. Ea does irrevocable damage to the world’s textures and grinds reality hence why its an *ANTI-WORLD* Np and *FEELS* as if though the planet was being crushed apart. Hence why Enkidu needed magical energy from the counterforce to match Ea’s power and protect the world’s integrity, so far as going to offset it several times over. It can’t actually planet bust. Servants generally aren’t strong enough to do that. If beasts in the levels of Tiamat and Goetia take thousands of years worth prep time to destroy the world and bypass its protection, what makes Ea anymore special and powerful than them? Goetia needed 3 thousand years worth of magical energy, converting all sapient beings on the planet as fuel for his grand plan, yet the best AAS could muster up at statements was burn a hole in the planet itself while incinerating human history. This is even despite having 100 million Excaliburs in AAS when fired all at once. Even if an Anti-Planetary NP (or in translation Anti-Star) existed on paper (which later proven true with Zeus’ Divine authority World Discipline Keraunos, and Romulus=Quirinus NP) which transcends an Anti-World Np just from pure definition/context, it still wouldn’t be enough to crack the planet into bits the way that people expect it to be. Ea’s range at best in its current feats would be around City to Provincial. Higher if the story goes on but currently as shown in the franchise that’s the best its going to go.

@ssjokg4952

2 ай бұрын

@@nightwolfnordberg9476 No. It can destroy a layer of the world, think of it like what Shadow Gil does in Prisma, but it cant destroy the planet.

@Mitsuru-Miki

2 ай бұрын

It can’t crack the planet. Holmes and Da Vinci have already established this in their conversation in Shinjuku Part 1.5. Ea does irrevocable damage to the world’s texture, crushing reality whenever unleash, hence why its an *ANTI-WORLD* Np and *FEELS* as if though the planet was being destroyed like in Fate Strange Fake LN. It can’t actually planet bust in the same manner that ORT could or hyperbolic Lostbelt Zeus style.

Its literally not stronger than EA.

@guesswho8556

2 ай бұрын

Unsealed excalibur is thousands of times stronger than Enuma Elish.

@kevinbaumhoer7359

2 ай бұрын

Its Literal Is a Fully Unsealed Excalibur scales its power to its Opponet im PPH Saber was the one who used the Fully Unsealed Excalibur to Defeated Sefar who has canonicly Destroyed other Planets and Saber one shotted Sefar one

@zain.munirzain5872

2 ай бұрын

@@kevinbaumhoer7359 It wasn't Saber who defeated Sefar, but aside from that Excalibur did one shot her.

@kevinbaumhoer7359

2 ай бұрын

@@zain.munirzain5872 yes yes sry i mixed some things up

@kevinbaumhoer7359

2 ай бұрын

@@zain.munirzain5872 yes yes i mixed zhings up my bad still it stands Excalibur can be stronger then Ea if a Situation arrives for it