You know that a song is good when you can still stomach listening to it comming from an internal PC speaker.

@carl_the_

4 жыл бұрын

yes!

@raspberry144mb3

4 жыл бұрын

It's less indicative of the song itself and more indicative of the care put into the PC speaker rendition of the song. The same level of care was NOT put into the Atari ST version.

@steffennilsen2132

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like the pc speaker is having a stroke trying to achieve polyphony, but yes it is a very good rendition considering its 1bit nature

@mattaaron6142

2 жыл бұрын

When u seek out the original PC speaker version or adlib vs orchestral remaster

@mattaaron6142

2 жыл бұрын

@@steffennilsen2132 1bit 8khz mono some odd

Its hard to imagine nowadays that there used to be so many vastly different versions of the same game all around the same time period

@DirkPittNCC1701

Жыл бұрын

i wish that more games with this level of quality would be produced

The old PC speaker is still so impressive. single channel puls modulation at its finest and most creative. unbelieveable what can put pulled out of this. Oh, and nice video bzw, very informative!

@Bark777

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed. This PC speaker music is even better: kzread.info/dash/bejne/laSnmriypb3Vo6Q.html

@manocset

6 жыл бұрын

Yes you are right but the Pinball Fantasies has came out two years later when the CPU-s was better.

@floydmayflower

5 жыл бұрын

@@Bark777 That's not real "PC speaker" music. That game has a built in MOD player and it's playing MOD files using the CPU as a DAC. It's not producing the sound, it's just playing a file.

@HrLBolle

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know whether you know about this knew DOS Games Planet X3 by David Murray ( The 8-bit Guy on KZread), but here is a link to the game ost pc speaker kzread.info/dash/bejne/dIFqpa2CddnIYps.html

@nathangamble125

4 жыл бұрын

I think PC Speaker sounds at its best when it's trying to emulate an Amiga. It tries so hard... kzread.info/dash/bejne/doeqzJWBmtvPmcY.html

For mobile users: [0:00:00] Hercules + PC Speaker [0:07:49] CGA + Tandy 3-voice [0:15:34] EGA + GameBlaster (CMS) [0:23:39] VGA + AdLib [0:31:37] VGA + CD-Audio [0:39:28] VGA + MT-32 (Talkie) BONUS: [0:47:54] Atari ST [0:56:11] Amiga [1:04:37] Sega CD

@BlueBox88

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder why ega and gameblaster are in a different key?

@UltromanTheTacoman

4 жыл бұрын

@@BlueBox88 I think it has to do with the sounds the card could make. I don't think it could make sounds which sounded different enough to each other, that you could have several instruments play in the same key, without it sounding like one sound that constantly changed only a tiny bit between instruments. There is a clear separation between the instrument playing bass, the base melody in the mids and another for the high notes. But I'm talking from absolutely no experience with making music for these cards or their hardware :P I've just been making electronic music for 20 years on a hobby-level.

@HalfLife-hq8eu

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro

Opinions on the sound of each PC Speaker - Impressive considering the limitations. One square wave that couldn't be adjusted at all doing THAT is actually pretty amazing, especially with the limited tools at the time. Tandy - Sounds like if the PC speaker had just two more voices. In fact, it is a PC speaker with 3 voices and noise capability. Creative Game Blaster - The stereo is really nice, reminds me of the Amiga, only more 8 bit. Also this particular recording has the Game Blaster set to play two semi-tones above the intended key for some reason. Adlib - Because of how it's tuned ever so slightly lower than the others, it sounds a little depressing. Combine that with the lack of decent percussion and it really seems like the Monkey Island soundtrack wasn't made with FM synthesis in mind. CD ROM - This one kind of disappoints me, mostly because of how this isn't taken from real instruments, and instead opts to be a high quality recording of a MIDI with some effects in there. Doesn't really take advantage of CD technology now, does it? Roland MT-32 - This is the way Monkey Island was meant to be enjoyed. It's almost as though the soundtrack was composed with an MT-32, it sounds so definitive, so full, so... right. It's my personal favorite version. The fact that there's a version of this where the characters talk is extra special. Atari ST - Even though the Atari ST is 16-bit with even some hints of 32-bit, the sound is still 8-bit like. The sound chip is severely outdated for it's time and it shows here. Guess Atari hadn't learned from the 7800. (Using the same sound technology as the 2600 in the 7800.) Amiga - Definitely a contender for best version, but nothing beats the MT-32. It really didn't take full advantage of the Amiga's sound chip, but it still sounds really good, as most Amiga compositions do. Sega CD - See CD ROM.

@LunaTheStars

4 жыл бұрын

Seeing the Adlib and how it’s slightly depressing, I wonder if Creative would’ve done better with 3x YM2203’s (OPN) rather than the YM3812 (OPL2)

@_Leouch

3 жыл бұрын

I remember how bind blowing were amiga back in the days.

@eds2011

3 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind that Roland MT32 is too expensive for this era. Is more easier to see and listen the cd-rom version for IBM PC than listen in MT32(back in the 90's). I love mt32 and I think it's the best too, but how many people have this card? I'm brazilian and I remember the best sound card is Sound Blaster in most of the computers that we have. Normally the PCs come with "multimedia computers" (with cd-rom capable, microphone and the sound blaster variations of SB16), so, this is the way...haha The same thing happen with Mortal Kombat and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo.

@arciks11

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree with Adlib version sounding poor. I find Adlib's soundtrack to be way easier on ears than Game Blaster. And Amiga version to me sounds kinda off.

@cjmillsnun

2 жыл бұрын

The adlib wasn’t a creative card.

PC Speaker ALWAYS will be the most impresive by far for........... it pulls some tears from my ears when i just ear it, 20 years later...........

@CP200S

4 жыл бұрын

PC Speaker wave driver still impresses me!

@saxojon

3 жыл бұрын

One sound at a time..

@angelvids6024

3 жыл бұрын

30

Roland MT-32 is just god damn incredible compare to all other version. It even sounds better than CD-Audio version.

@jordanscherr6699

5 жыл бұрын

Remember that both CD and Roland MT-32 versions are created by similar methods. More care was put into the composition of the MT version, and there's no compression in the individual instruments. So the CD version could have been just as good if it was done with equal production values.

@mr.pendleton7121

5 жыл бұрын

Jordan Scherr How did he get voices to work alongside the roland mt-32? In most videos that show the talkie patch for Monkey Island, sound from the special edition overrides everything.

@jamiehav0k62

4 жыл бұрын

@@mr.pendleton7121 Hes probably playing in dos rather than scummvm

@Delta225

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamiehav0k62 I played through the whole game like this in scummvm, both parts worked just fine.

@nathangamble125

4 жыл бұрын

@@mr.pendleton7121 My understanding is that for this to work you need to have a PCM-capable soundcard (i.e. a SoundBlaster) *AND* an MT-32. Expensive and impractical for most people in those days, but amazing.

Huge jump from EGA to VGA and Game Blaster to AdLib. Once you had the VGA/AdLib combination with the 486 processor, PC's absolutely owned! Another big jump would follow with the Pentium, 3D graphics card, CD sound, and 15-16bit color, and we've had diminishing returns since.

@Nikioko

Жыл бұрын

The Amiga was somewhere in between. And a lot cheaper than a PC with VGA and Adlib.

I really like the Gameblaster for its mix of early computer sound and actual capabilities. Interesting that this version has such a prominent stereo emphasis over the other versions.

So this is what computers were like back then huh? Only a few colours and a few sounds! Wow, today sounds so advanced now that I realise it.

I swear, Commodore's Executive structure shot them in the foot SO hard! The Amiga was out and kicking long before the EGA and Adlib equivalents where available. Look up the story of Commodore's mismanagement and "dismissal" of the one guy who understood the Amiga for what it was. Without a sane and clear head, it was just a matter of time before DOS caught up, then blew away what Commodore had in graphics and sound.

@NotaPizzaGRL

5 жыл бұрын

Imagine how different computing could've been if computers like the Amiga, Sharp X68000, Fujitsu FM-TOWNS, and Acorn Archimedes had stuck around...

@Nikioko

Жыл бұрын

The Amiga graphics had 32 colors at 320x200 pixels, thus somewhere between EGA and VGA. And the onboard sound system was better than PC speaker, and sound cards were very unusual and expensive in PCs back then.

@jordanscherr6699

Жыл бұрын

@@Nikioko Even so, Commodore could have had the cream of the crop even by that point. But instead their power structure weeded out anyone who could keep up the momentum. As a result, they weren't the top anymore, and just kept falling behind.

@Nikioko

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanscherr6699 Yes. In the 80s, they were top. But by 1992, when Monkey Island 2 and Indiana Jones 4 consumed 11 disks, the downsides were obvious. They didn't keep up with the development of the PC, and in 1993, when 486s with sound cards and VGA became standard, they were out.

@daishi5571

Жыл бұрын

@@Nikioko But in 1992 Amiga had AGA which had capabilities of SVGA. And while the sound chip hadn't been upgraded, due to the Chipmem upgrade it was now more capable than ever. Big box Amigas had both sound cards and video cards available and all Amigas had CPU upgrades available. I have said many times it wasn't the Amigas capabilities that were the problem but that only few knew what they were. The Amiga could do anything a PC could do and then some.

This must be the only one game whose intro I've never skipped.

@saxojon

3 жыл бұрын

I quite literally skipped the games but never the intro. I never got around to play them, but I consider this theme to be one of the best, if not the best, themes in gaming.

I’m just imagining someone with a Hercules and PC speaking playing this game. Then suddenly upgraded to a computer with VGA and ADLib. I think he would have a heart attack trying to process that it was the same game.

Damn the Amiga sounds and looks awesome!

Interesting how they completely rebuilt the artwork for VGA. Remaster isn't he right word for it, the aesthetic is different.

@Risingson2

4 жыл бұрын

I always thought the EGA version is artistically superior to the VGA one

@Risingson2

4 жыл бұрын

@Andrés Ferrari oh yes that's me. Don't say it too loud or they will find out about my real age :)

@carmonaconsulting

8 ай бұрын

They used to develop actual artwork on paper sketches and then digitize it. So they could rerun the whole process from scratch, and of course it would end up looking different.

The Amiga version kicks ass

@arielmatiagrieco

4 жыл бұрын

just beautiful

@JackTF

3 жыл бұрын

@@arielmatiagrieco Sound made by sound guru Chris Huelsbeck himself.

@mattyjohnsson257

3 жыл бұрын

That is my childhood. That is IT.

@johnnyw525

3 жыл бұрын

The best

@MasterCrawford88

2 жыл бұрын

The amiga version is ass

Man, you did a really great job! Thx! It's breathtaking!

@dam-soft

4 жыл бұрын

Alexander Krasnov Thank You!

EGA was my jam. Good memories...in a light wine sauce.

Very nice collection of comparisons!

So many good memories! Thank you!

Well done at putting this together

Note that these visuals and audio aren't obtained from the real hardware but using emulation / Virtual Machines

@farhanatashiga3721

5 жыл бұрын

How do you know Sherlock?

@elmalloc

3 жыл бұрын

@@farhanatashiga3721 he smarter than

31:39 is the one I had as a kid back in 94. Best CD-ROM game I ever played

I guess I'm the only one who has some love left for Soundblaster 16/OPL-2 Synth. There is something a bit magical about the _distinctly computery_ sound of old FM Synth based music. Like a natural evolution of a Chiptune.

Thanks a lot for this Video. I enjoyed it very much 🙂

Wow compatible with so many prototypes!! True Legend

Well done, thanks so much for making this. I'm surprised the Atari doesn't sound better. I thought it had better built in sound

Amiga is a bonus inclusion. That's the one we had 😃

Great video. I grew up with the Atari ST version and still my favourite game. But plaited a lot if the others ions too. Midi music sounds awesome. Recently set PC up with Roland and its great.

very interesting video! good job ;)

My right ear loved the GameBlaster version

Nice Job ! Great vidéo

Seems quite interesting how the Sega converted Monkey island game. Use the Amiga version but build the cd-rom music. Shame for Sega not use the PC-DOS version (with sound effects it's possible to run in sega cd + genesis hardware)

The hercules graphics are probably the reason why all the items you can point at are spelled out on the bottom of the screen. Because otherwise you can't make out what you're even clicking on.

@space302

2 жыл бұрын

The hercules version seems to be a hastily made conversion from other versions. They could have made it much clearer but that would have required redrawing everything in a higher resolution.

The mt-32 sounds magical! so much better then cd audio

Ah man, the AdLib version is just the version that's most nostalgic to me and I love it. The earlier ones are seriously impressive though.

Great Video! I played VGA/CD Sound. Interesting that they edited out the sunrise/set, good decision though because it‘s always 10 o’clock in Melee Island and at this time there is no sunrise/set in the caribbean!

The Amiga Version was very good for its time. With 32 colors, it was somewhere between EGA and VGA, and the sound was really good. So, for a home computer, you got a lot of value, as the performance was better than on most IBM-compatible PCs.

This is a great video.

@robotchan

6 жыл бұрын

You're a great person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I played the EGA version of this game + soundblaster as a kid, and I had NO IDEA there were Atari ST and Amiga versions. Mind blown. I will need to see if there is some way to play an emulated Amiga version. I wanted an Amiga very badly but never was able to get one.

VGA and SVGA is where my memories still live.

EGA with Game Blaster was my childhood and the combination i most fondly remember! :D It was something magical about EGA and how its partly crude drawing made it mystical and let my imagination fill in the blanks. Same reason i prefer "A Short Hike" pixelated (not the most pixelated setting, one above). I feel the same with all those old Lucasarts/film and Sierra point and click games with that EGA look. It's very characteristic.

Damm!! I grew up with adlib card. It fantastic sound !!

And here i am.... sitting in front of this video, feeling happyness while watching monochrome with a pc speaker song, reminding me of my childhood - wondering why the hell did i jump on that hardware madness train, buying a RTX 3080 for around 1400€ couple of months ago. People can be stupid.

Amiga owned it by monkey island 2 things had changed but the amiga is the definitive version of monkey island 1! 4 floppies of goodness.

I had a Sega master system while my cousing had an Amiga500 with 1 mb extension rom....Amiga was like magic to me. Never forget Hero Quest 2 legacy of solarys.

Man the amiga version brought me back, I played this originally on an a500

VGA AdLib is so good omg :o

All Sierra games, from what I remember as a kid, were played on Adlib. Super nostalgic.

@David_Larkin

6 жыл бұрын

xXt0x1c-sl1m3Xx Sierra had an contract with roland where every soundtrack needed to be composed for the MT-32

@thetwistedsamurai

6 жыл бұрын

That's smart of them. At least it sounds good in Adlib too!

@cjmillsnun

2 жыл бұрын

This is a Lucasfilm game.

@thetwistedsamurai

2 жыл бұрын

@@cjmillsnun Didn’t Sierra and Lucasfilms work together for a while?

@BOX_corporation.

Жыл бұрын

@cjmillsnun Its actually a lucasarts game

Man I a have a soft spot for gameblaster music and sound.

The amiga was fascinating.

With Loom I prefer EGA, but in case of Secret VGA is vastly superior. Especially those portraits by Iain McCaig.

Love them all!

Sad that the Special Edition doesn't get an Honorable mention which shows as to how far computers had come since then.

why it's dusk visible in EGA in the docks scene, and not in the VGA version?

The PC Speaker is working so damn hard

People these days will never understand what it was like getting your first Game Blaster. It really was a whole different world.

What a pleasant surprise on SEGA . Nice :)

WOW your monochrome mode dithered Hercules graphics are scaled so badly they look nothing like they should lol

VGA/ Adlib for me. It’s how I first played the game.

Damn i can't believe that this game released on sega and sounds are impressive can dool with mt 32

SEGA CD SOUNDCHIP: Ricoh RF5C164

Kind of an odd choice given the game had a Tandy color mode and the average PC user on an XT system would have had CGA and the PC speaker or an Ad-Lib. Always nice to see the Hercules version of the game though.

The Atari ST versions music seems like it was rushed, Iv heard much better remixes of the Monkey island theme played on the Atari ST than what was in the game.

VGA + CD is definitely the one that hits the best without it being ear gape

Still amazed how superior the Amiga sounds were. Thank you, Chris Hülsbeck!

Amiga i miss you 😭😭😭

Feeling nostalgic about the game I haven't even played. Weird feeling but I like it.

@mimosa27

Жыл бұрын

When will you play it?

Night sky looks like a sunrise on the Atari 51:00

EGA is the best version!!!

THIS CAN ONLY BE DESCRIBED BY ONE WORD ------- A M A Z I N G !!!!!!!!!!!!!

i just loooooooove pc speaker sounds(when well done)

i never knew that the original version of the secret of monkey island had sound acting how would i get accses to those lines ?

Nice, reminds me of LGR's old video, but obviously more encompassing with also having graphics. Only really missing maybe the Tandy/PCjr mode (Which was basically CGA but with all the colors possible at once instead of just 4 out of 16), I think Monkey Island supported that?

@AudieHolland

6 жыл бұрын

Sure. If you want 160x200 resolution.

@dam-soft

6 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I was unable to force DOSBox to work in CGA mode with a composite output for Monkey Island. I'm not sure if this mode was supported by SoMI.

Wait what ? There is a talkie version on the old graphics ? I thought the only talkie version was the HD remaster but that doesn't let you have the old graphics with voice. They did include this on MI2 remaster.

@HerecomestheCalavera

5 жыл бұрын

Ultimate Talkie edition

@imperia777

5 жыл бұрын

There is tools to extract the voices from remastered versions and put them into normal versions so they become talkies. This is the way I like to play mi1 and mi2

Most impressive beginnings had Game Blaster, Amiga and Sega CD by my opinion

Gameblaster and Pc speaker are my favourites

I love it

I believe CGA is actually older, being from 1981 while Hercules is from 1982. I don't suppose this game had different visuals for TGA or CGA+ modes?

Roland really beats all. However, the amiga part made me smile most because I played that for at least 300000 hours😆

Can anyone tell me where I could get the talkie version, please?

VGA+Adlib enough for me in 2022.

46:18 Hey, Rob Paulsen is the voice of the peg leg ghost pirate!

Cuando he visto el de AMIGA me he puesto a aplaudir de la emoción

Is the FM Towns different than any of these versions?

Icon, even for me, despite i've never played it...

I'm too young to have known the first Monkey Island when they were released so there's one thing i don't get. Are those all different versions (re-released) or was the game that different depending on what hardware you used ?

@katie2940

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure exactly, but I'm pretty sure the first three were the same version (with variations depending on the hardware) the VGA version was a rerelease with new graphics, the CD version was a second rerelease and the Amiga, ST and Mega CD versions were all independent and exclusive. The "talkie" version is fan made, I believe.

@OMA2k

4 жыл бұрын

@@katie2940 You're right. The first 3 were the same floppy disc game with different graphics settings (it was usual back then for games to look different depending on hardware). Then there was a re-release for VGA in floppies as well. LucasFilm offered a service where you could trade your EGA version floppies for VGA version ones, just sending them by mail. Then a CD-ROM version was released, with the same VGA graphics but sound recorded into CD-Audio tracks instead of played by any sound chip in the computer. None of the above versions were "talkie". The talkie version was fan-made but using the voices from the official HD "remaster" they released back in 2009, which had incredibly good voice acting, but the HD graphics were not so good, so it's better to play with the old VGA graphics but with the new voices. Preferably on a small screen device, such as a 10 inch tablet, so the graphics look closer to the experience we had back in the 90s (we used 14 inch monitors or smaller, not the huge screens of today, where 320x200 graphics look too blocky). Finally, yes, the Atari, Amiga and SegaCD versions were released separately.

Where's the special edition remastered version??

VGA/Adlib is perfect for me. The pixel is a thing of beauty; same with the Adlib. (This game didn't need remasters, it looks considerably uglier to me; that's just my opinion)

I have always liked the mt-32 version.

*I came for the PC speaker sound only.*

0:13 Hey, it's trying its best.

The MT-32 version is easily the best, and it's great to see a version with speech. Just a shame it lacks the ambient sound effects! I hope one day someone can make a version with the original MT-32 music + speech + ambient sound effects, ideally with volume controls for all three :)

@theguardian8317

5 жыл бұрын

There were never talkie editions of MI 1 + 2 until the modern versions. It's some sort of fan made version.

@Dracobyte

5 жыл бұрын

Whats the difference between that and the CD version.

@theguardian8317

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think anyone knows of the little differences between all the different versions of MI1 that where released over the years but in general I see it as 3 types of sound & music you could get: - For earlier systems the only option was PC speaker or integrated audio. - For PCs that had installed an additional sound card then you would configure MI to play the sound files with the hardware you had, e.g. Sound Blaster, Roland, Gravis; The MT-32 was sort of an add on for Roland cards that would make the music sound better. Basically the music come in sort of instruction files that each hardware would interpret and play with it's own samples, that's why they sound different. - Later the CD ROM version was released. This version had some of the music (all of it??) recorded as music tracks that you could also put into any cd player to listen. The music in this version would sound exactly the same on any computer as long as you had a sound card. The sound effects still depended on having the game properly configured according to your sound card (I think). None of this versions ever had voice over. The special edition released recently just like any other modern game has a new voice track, music and sound effects as wave format files obviously. I don't know from where they got the music from but I assume it is the same one as the CD ROM version.

Sid doesn‘t like to be called by his family name.

Can anyone explain the special edition voice acting on the MT-32 one?

@danLyoutube

6 жыл бұрын

I think it might be a mistake on the part of the editor. I don't think that ever existed

@sadpotato4931

6 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it's the fan-made "Ultimate Talkie Edition" which combines the special edition voice acting with the VGA version. You can play it on SCUMMVM.

@Viperspider1

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah the VA for Guybrush wasn't hired until MI3

@dussie920

5 жыл бұрын

I can be the MI Special Edition too. By pressing the F1 button you can change graphics mode from original to enhanced mode. This version has the voices in it. Was sold from 2009 I believe. It combines MI 1 and 2. It can also be the Ultimate Talkie edition. Actually that is wat the video says in the lower right corner. Doesn't it?

Where I found the CD-ROM version download?

@dussie920

5 жыл бұрын

I would say STEAM? Or are you one of "The Men of Low Moral Fiber", as they call 'em in Monkey Island :-)

i ended up here from ahoys video

@pinheadmarineii4615

5 жыл бұрын

Who didn't?

@CascadianRanger

5 жыл бұрын

Because of him I beat monkey island, am playing through monkey island 2 and am getting the lucas arts pack on steam

Whoever arranged the main theme for the Amiga did some weiiird stuff to the middle section. Can't work out if there was some kind of technical limitation that caused them to rewrite the melody or if they just felt like it.

Hercules version looks like Atari ST Lucasfilm or Sierra games with SM124 monochrome monitor

Back then, I had EGA with PC Speaker XD