Evolution Evosaw380 VS Dewalt DW872 - Head to Head Comparison!

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The kind folks at Evolution Power Tools sent us a Evosaw380 to checkout on video. We decided to do an unboxing video, but also do a head to head comparison to the Dewalt DW872 Multi-cutter chops. Kind of a chopsaw shootout! . We tested things like deck flatness, spindle runout, overall cut quality and cut squareness. Because of the super flat cast base, the Evolution Evosaw380 had by far the most square cut with only .002" of deviation across a 4" flat bar.
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  • @funkypotamus
    @funkypotamus6 жыл бұрын

    Good man!! The exact video I've been waiting for! 😁

  • @robservice3322
    @robservice33226 жыл бұрын

    Good review. I was happy to see the comparisons as I am wanting to upgrade from my abrasive chop saw.

  • @AMetalWorks
    @AMetalWorks6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Gary for the plug. I truly appreciate it.

  • @JerrysThisandThat
    @JerrysThisandThat6 жыл бұрын

    Really fair unbiased review Gary. Seems like a winner to me just because of what you said about the deck.

  • @fatturbocars

    @fatturbocars

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jerry's This and That ii

  • @Helikopterpop
    @Helikopterpop4 жыл бұрын

    On my evolution that I had, I had to take off the blade guard. The mechanism for lifting the guard consisted of a small screw and a washer as a rolling guide. And that constantly fell of its radius edge that it was supposed to roll along. And that made it get stuck. So there's some shortcuts made in the design of the evo. But i bought it from UK to sweden for like 350$ equiv, and thats cheap compared to the prices in sweden. And I was really happy with the way it performed. It makes small jobs snappy compared to saw in horizontal bandsaws. And it doesn't need coolant that you have to wipe of after each cut. Coolant plus dust equals messy paste of chips that gets everywhere.

  • @GregsGarage
    @GregsGarage6 жыл бұрын

    Been using an EVO for a few months now. Uneven cuts seem to be normal. I believe its their blades. Dispite that, I love the saw.

  • @melgross

    @melgross

    6 жыл бұрын

    Greg's Garage don’t always blame the blade. I find that the machines are often the major problem in that regard. If the back flange of the arbor which the blade sits against isn’t straight (exactly 90 degrees to the arbor), the blade will wobble, and cut mire like a wobble dado for wood. But since metal is far harder than wood, the cut can also be at an angle. If the arbor is too small in diameter, the blade won’t be centered, and just a few teeth will actually be cutting, and will wear out quickly. If the flange that goes on before the nut is a cheap pressing, it won’t be flat, and the blade could be bent when tightened. Also if it’s too large, the blade will be dished out, and if it’s too small, the blade will be dished in. It]f you tighten it too much, it will be worse, and can actually squash that cheap pressed flange. There’s so much more to this, but that’s enough for now.

  • @johncurry7555
    @johncurry75553 жыл бұрын

    Great job on this video, I have never owned a Chop saw but I am looking to purchase one which is why I am looking for as much information as I can find. This was very helpful. Take carae.

  • @timwhalen4485
    @timwhalen44856 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation...Gary does a great job

  • @rayeddy528
    @rayeddy5286 жыл бұрын

    Another great video Gary. Thank you. Interesting content. Be safe and God bless you!!!!

  • @melgross
    @melgross6 жыл бұрын

    As someone who has been doing metalworking for over 50 years, I’ve come across a lot of good, and bad, things about equipment. But in evaluating the thicknesses of parts, you have to keep in mind the difference in material. For aluminum, which the Evolution saw is made of, you need approximately three times the thickness to get the same strength, or rigidity. I’m certainly not saying that the DeWalt is better. That saw there seems knocked about, which isn’t that unusual for equipment in a professional environment. Secondly, when measuring runout, you REALLY need to measure it near the outer circumference of the blade, not near the middle. All blades, no matter how good, are dished slightly, and the big difference is at the edge, where sometimes, the brazing on of the teeth slightly warps the blade body. In addition, all blades have a slight wobble, a couple of thousands on a 14” blade is pretty good. Also, the arbor has some wobble, which should not be more than about 2 thou. But when combined, the total could be 4 though, on a good product. I’ve got a way of fixing g most of that. I mark the blade at 90 degrees around. I mark the arbor at one point, and align one mark. I then tighten it correctly, and manually spin it around, being careful not to push the blade to the side. I move the blade through all of the marks, and measure. One of them will show less wobble, and one will show more. I mark which mark, or even between two, that shows the least wobble, and always mount the blade with that mark aligned with the mark on the arbor. That takes most of the wobble (or runout) out of the cut. I hope that was useful.

  • @raulduke85

    @raulduke85

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mel Gross the evo saw made out of alumnium (not aluminum cmon)? You must be kidding. The base and the vise of the Raptor are cast iron made. I have 1 and I know; infact It weights something like 28 kg.

  • @melgross

    @melgross

    6 жыл бұрын

    My saw is 50 pounds, and is cast aluminum.. the vise is steel. Metal is heavy, no matter what it is. If the saw base was cast iron, it would weigh even more. Maybe your vise is cast iron, and you’re assuming the base is too.

  • @v8trauma

    @v8trauma

    5 жыл бұрын

    The evo base is aluminium with a ferrous insert, probably mild steel.

  • @douglasthompson2740
    @douglasthompson27406 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video Gary. Valuable information. Take care. Doug

  • @BobbyOfEarth
    @BobbyOfEarth3 жыл бұрын

    I've had my EvoLution Rage 2 for several years and its been a solid tool and a worthwhile investment. Its heavy and ackward to move around but its built much like an industrial tool than the DeWalt, which actually has a higher retail price. The Evo is 62 lbs while the DeWalt is 47 lbs..

  • @21thTek
    @21thTek6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the info, beautiful video !

  • @frankensteincreations4740
    @frankensteincreations47402 жыл бұрын

    Pitch on the blade and design of the carbide teeth is what changes the surface finish 👍 Awesome video!

  • @reideichner8597
    @reideichner85976 жыл бұрын

    Good information Gary. Thanks!

  • @wildeyednorthernboy
    @wildeyednorthernboy4 жыл бұрын

    GOOD Review ,helped me ALOT on the price/better over all saw,thank u for the video gary

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Thommy, glad it was of use. Really both saws will do the job just fine.

  • @mikemcdonough1793
    @mikemcdonough17936 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered the Evolution from Amazon, I have the little one but like the Bigger one.

  • @michael380
    @michael3804 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing a real review and not just an advertisement.

  • @mpowel03
    @mpowel035 жыл бұрын

    Interesting comparison. One of my points of interest was the height of the fences.

  • @smittiac779
    @smittiac7793 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic review, very informative. Thanks sir.

  • @sumising
    @sumising Жыл бұрын

    Great comparison was very helpful! You do great comparisons must do other tools as well. Many thanks.

  • @CruiserMac
    @CruiserMac6 жыл бұрын

    Very informative review Gary.

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you sir

  • @mikel9162
    @mikel91624 жыл бұрын

    I think you will find the chatter marks are from the larger dia. blade. I have use a Evolutioin in the Knife Shop for years now. I bought a spare blade for it feeling it would fail quickly. I have never had to change the blade. I cut very tough and abrasive steels. ATS-34 and 154-CPM steels on it. Very impressive! KnifeMaker

  • @SYFGARAGE
    @SYFGARAGE6 жыл бұрын

    No matter how much better the saw is in general it doesn't matter if the screw gets screwed up after one use. Crazy

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, and the second time I used it, it bound up in the same way in a different spot and did something similar.

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wait, did I lose a sale by showing the screw issue ?

  • @SYFGARAGE

    @SYFGARAGE

    6 жыл бұрын

    no, price just went way down lol

  • @AMetalWorks

    @AMetalWorks

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just a heads up. Not sure what's going on with your threads but mine have held up so far. Knocking on wood lol. Real curious as to what is causing that on your saw.

  • @NickMcEntee

    @NickMcEntee

    6 жыл бұрын

    That's odd about the screw. I've been using mine for about 4-5 years, daily use, and the screw is still in great shape.

  • @sexybluelady
    @sexybluelady6 жыл бұрын

    I've been on the fence about which one of these saws to get. They both have been sitting in my amazon wishlist for a while now.

  • @user-zo6se3rc4k

    @user-zo6se3rc4k

    4 жыл бұрын

    Long live Nikola Tesla

  • @hawkdaddy64
    @hawkdaddy646 жыл бұрын

    I see where you've dropped steel on the DeWalt table due to distortion in the steel. If you want to do this fairly then you get two new machines and then judge, clearly yours has some heavy use.

  • @bigrick3834

    @bigrick3834

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree...

  • @edwardpfaffel4502
    @edwardpfaffel45023 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison. The evo does have a more solid deck. The thread damage and the fact that it comes with spare brushes is scary. I still love my Dewalt!

  • @bambambundy6
    @bambambundy66 жыл бұрын

    I'm lucky that nothing I do has to be that precise! I would have no trouble using either saw!!

  • @LukeBrewMoreBeer
    @LukeBrewMoreBeer6 жыл бұрын

    You cut the bar on the Y axis and measured across the Z axis - the measurement with the indicator should of followed the cut (Y axis) as clamping in the mills vice, the extra parallel edge could certainly skew results. Both cuts should of been made with the same blade to. Other than that, overall a useful quick comparison. Both cuts are well within 'good' for this type of saw.

  • @tysonbally8628
    @tysonbally86284 жыл бұрын

    I've been using Evolution blades for years. They last a lot longer when you oil them before you cut! The evolution saw is the best saw ever made👍

  • @acmegp
    @acmegp4 жыл бұрын

    Right up til the end where you noticed the buggered up threads, I was liking the evo but not after seeing those buggered threads. That indicates soft steel, not a high carbon hardened threaded rod like it should be. I bought a beat to hell ridgid saw that looks for all the work like an exact copy the the evo, or maybe it was made by evo for ridgid, who knows. Any way it has thread that look exactly like the evo but there is no quick release system. You just wind it in and out like the dewalt. I bought that saw for less then the cost of a new evo blade and the right angle gearbox on the ridgid saw is shot and screams. But even with an old blade with a tooth missing, she cuts steel like butter. I do heap lots of cutting oil on the old blade while cutting with it. When that old say blows up I will probably buy and evo but maybe not after seeing those buggered up threads right at the end. You should have contacted evo about that and then included their response in the video. No serious DIY home shop dude like me, and ex machinist who has a full machine shop in my garage is going to want that evo after seeing those damaged threads. As i said before that should have been a high carbon hardened threaded rod, not soft easily damaged threaded clamp rod like that. bummer....

  • @jonathangarzon2798

    @jonathangarzon2798

    2 жыл бұрын

    All thread replacement that big an issue for you?

  • @sidgar1
    @sidgar16 жыл бұрын

    You should swap the blades to see if they have any impact on the quality and trueness of the cuts to rule that variable out of the equation during your testing.

  • @JoochJZL
    @JoochJZL4 жыл бұрын

    Have had them both. For my money, I prefer the evolution. However they are both good saws especially if used after using a cutoff saw

  • @spartaeus
    @spartaeus5 жыл бұрын

    I have seen other reviews of the evolution saw. And they clearly showed that when you clamp something to be cut on the saw, the base of the saw buckles upward. Lots of flex and twist. Maybe it was a different model evolution saw?

  • @JonDingle
    @JonDingle3 жыл бұрын

    Last month I bought a brand new Evo s 355CPS saw and it has the square Acme screw for the vice. It's a great investment at only £220 delivered. I like your review but to be fair to the DeWalt you should have used the same blade across both machines so the results would have been based off one blade doing both cuts.

  • @1970chevelle396
    @1970chevelle3966 жыл бұрын

    The problem I had with my Dewalt was that cheap vice would not stay in the right place when cutting. It would move a little bit when cutting 45's.

  • @zip7806
    @zip78065 жыл бұрын

    This is what happens when a Machinist reviews a Welders tool. Does is cut metal Well? Yes... Should you buy one? Yes... Was it worth the money? Yes...

  • @chriss8206
    @chriss82065 жыл бұрын

    You can adjust your saw to cut square. Adjust both vertical and horizontal.

  • @MrAtaripitbull
    @MrAtaripitbull4 жыл бұрын

    The threading on the clamping bolt is what concerns me. I do hope evolution saw your video and went about the process of changing the design. $380 bucks may not be a lot for what the Evolution can do, but what good is it if the threading is gone after a few uses ?

  • @roqwire
    @roqwire4 жыл бұрын

    I take my Dewalt on the road, it's heavy enough..... Ive dropped mine a few times.... Its durable. Im sure that EVO is pretty heavey too. Have had my Dewalt over two years +/- and it still cuts precisely...... Maybe three blades since Ive owned it........ Alot of wrought iron including stainless

  • @daviddemoise3526
    @daviddemoise35266 жыл бұрын

    We have an evolution at work and it is a great saw, but I have found the same issues with the screw clamp. I find the one on my personal milwaukee saw to be much better.

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    6 жыл бұрын

    Interesting about the one at work. I used this one more today and had the screw bind up a couple of times.

  • @daviddemoise3526

    @daviddemoise3526

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ramsey Customs - turbocobra it galled up day one in one spot like yours, it hasn't talked again in the couple months we've had it, but it binds up on a regular basis. The only dislike I can come up with.

  • @user-uv6ed4er9m

    @user-uv6ed4er9m

    6 жыл бұрын

    David DeMoise كم ثمنها بالدولار ؟

  • @johnw4590
    @johnw45903 ай бұрын

    Used chop saw with abrasive blades for years works great! These new saws good for quick small metal cutting. Clean precise for welding. Swivel bandsaw better option for wider range of cutting heavier steel tubing.

  • @paulades9857
    @paulades98576 жыл бұрын

    Is there any way or means that you could see or find to tram the Evo into square?

  • @robotnicw
    @robotnicw3 жыл бұрын

    I bought the Dewalt model before I saw this video. After it showed up I unboxed it and tried to mount a piece of square stock for a test cut. Just like in your video, the table is uneven so it's impossible to tell what surface is square to the blade. I boxed it back up without cutting and just returned it. Until this purchase, I unquestioningly thought DeWalt was high quality. Not anymore.

  • @peterm3159
    @peterm31595 жыл бұрын

    For the price of the Evo you can get a Trajan Q1400 which is a real Industrial saw, it is what the new Evo was modeled after.

  • @albinasvanasius4680

    @albinasvanasius4680

    Жыл бұрын

    TrajanQ1400

  • @ron-namvet5651
    @ron-namvet56514 жыл бұрын

    The acme thread on the dewalt won't hold as tight as the fine threaded vise of the evolution. Acme just moves faster

  • @JonDingle

    @JonDingle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nope, you got that the wrong way around. An Acme screw thread is square to enhance clamping force. It is far and away stronger. Proof of that can be found in every good quality vice from a basic mechancis bench vice right up to high end machine vice. Fine threads or sharp peaked threads a similar or identical to bolts and can be stripped easily. Go check any vice, don't take my word for it.

  • @chuck0379
    @chuck03796 жыл бұрын

    how is the Dewalt on cutting stainless steel pipe like 3" exhaust 16 gauge?

  • @thantsintun100
    @thantsintun1004 жыл бұрын

    Good job ! Thank . You are the man.

  • @jameschastine7498
    @jameschastine74984 жыл бұрын

    I'm new to these saws. Can you use the cutting blade and abrasive blade on the same machine?

  • @billykid1247

    @billykid1247

    4 жыл бұрын

    No both machines run and differnt rpms

  • @travishuberts6418
    @travishuberts64186 жыл бұрын

    You are comparing a rotten apple to a fresh apple. The dewalt has seen abuse, not to mention a very well used blade. You can not compare a brand new saw to a old used saw

  • @santiagoramirezalvarez4125

    @santiagoramirezalvarez4125

    6 жыл бұрын

    De

  • @waynesmith3526

    @waynesmith3526

    5 жыл бұрын

    Brb, gonna go buy a new car and compare it to my 20 year old car, I don't think the new car will be better than my 20 year old one though...

  • @randycastillo1590

    @randycastillo1590

    5 жыл бұрын

    😃

  • @hrautocustoms2468

    @hrautocustoms2468

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wayne Smith well it can be better depends on what are your requirements and keeping both are samw segments car and same or closer engine type say a 2litre inline 4. Ofcourse new one will be smoother and since its new it has new tyres whereas your 20 years one is still on some 4 years old tyres that have turned hard now and lost most of its tread and you tend to loose grip.

  • @jamestennimon9974

    @jamestennimon9974

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dewalt chop saw tables are not flat. The abrasive saw is the same as this one

  • @daviddaddy
    @daviddaddy6 жыл бұрын

    You make good reviews but i feel you should have used Brand new blades in both saws. Same brand blades and i feel like that would have proved more accurate of a comparison of both Saws. I cant tell if your dewalt was cutting slower because of an older, duller blade? or because the saw just cuts slower? So i Kind of feel like the Results are inconclusive.

  • @q......

    @q......

    6 жыл бұрын

    The age of the saw matters also. I mean the dewalt is clearly beat up quite a bit more. Apples to apples comparison would be both being new and both using the same blades.

  • @antigen4

    @antigen4

    5 жыл бұрын

    yeah it kind of invalidates the test but the reviewer is so inarticulate it was pretty unclear which saw he was talking about in many instances anyhow

  • @tomsawyer5576
    @tomsawyer55766 жыл бұрын

    Have had both saws for some time. The Evo hands down is the better saw. Cuts faster and more accurately. The tread on the Evo saw clamp is standard vs the DW Acme tread but with the standard fine tread on the Evo you don't need to tighten with as much torque on the handle to get the same clamping force. After two years of using the Evo the clamping screw is still fine on our saw. When we changed blades on the Evo to a better quality blade the cut smoothness improved to that equal to the DeWalt. At our shop the Evo is the everyday saw and DeWalt was sold on Craigslist years ago.

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    6 жыл бұрын

    Some great points, appreciate the info on the screw.

  • @v8trauma

    @v8trauma

    5 жыл бұрын

    What blades do you recommend?

  • @rodstephens6612
    @rodstephens66123 жыл бұрын

    When you cut the bar you flipped it, changing the reference edge. When you measured it you maintained one reference edge. Unless you had milled both edges before the test, I would expect the result you got.

  • @CelularesAndroid
    @CelularesAndroid3 жыл бұрын

    The cutting discs are interchangeable, between brands? I have the impression that the Dewalts are more durable.

  • @ryanb1874
    @ryanb18744 жыл бұрын

    Which blade last longer and are they exactly the same surface feet, and tooth count?

  • @mathankumar6473
    @mathankumar64734 жыл бұрын

    Great review, I guess the 60 degree V thread gives you more clamping force than the acme

  • @yellowmetaldriver1460
    @yellowmetaldriver14606 жыл бұрын

    Nice comparison. Looks like too much cranking on both clamps. No doubt the evo had a softer rod but i have used mine for years without a mark on it but i dont crank down nearly as tight as in the video.

  • @franzb8882
    @franzb88824 жыл бұрын

    What do you think about the aweful sound of the Evo slowing to a stop after the cut?

  • @robueleubor

    @robueleubor

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ben B And he did not say nothing about that sound sounded like gears grinding

  • @markam3489
    @markam34893 жыл бұрын

    Hi. how many cuts will the blade last? I think about something like 50x50x2 mm square tubing.

  • @bobfuller9759
    @bobfuller97596 жыл бұрын

    Show the different in the miter clamp. thanks

  • @tuberider1171
    @tuberider11713 жыл бұрын

    thanks - yep that screw thread on the Evo's clamp rod is a bummer - thanks for pointing that out. I will be on the lookout for hard shouldered screw threads on whatever I aim for As for the other key features you pointed out - many thanks. I'll now also be on the look out for things such as the quality of the support gussets for the fence not to mention a thicker fence itself and clamp. Seems that the Evo wins hands down with its cast iron. Thanks for also pointing out the importance of a flat base. That cast iron base on the Evo wins again. That bow in the DeWalt thin metal base that causes rocking is fault for sure. Also like the way you pointed out the built waste for cut material collector on the Evo which was lacking on the DeWalt. I'll be interested to see if Evo has upgraded the clamp rod. Did you ever get any feedback? You also pointed out that the Evo supplies brushes. I wonder, has anyone compared the motors I wonder e.g bearings? So in summary things to look out for are. Is there anything else? For instance, I was wondering about the virtues of a quick release of the fence supports to change the cutting angle. Any advice? - Thickness of base (including flatness), thickness of the clamp, the fence and its gusset supports - The hardness and flat shoulders of the screw thread clamp rod - The presence of a waste collector

  • @wanderleygomes1412
    @wanderleygomes14125 жыл бұрын

    Hello! What is the price of the Dewalt DW872? What is the maximum rotation of the disc?

  • @johncoonradtjr.5141
    @johncoonradtjr.51414 жыл бұрын

    How many tooth blade are you using on the DeWalt

  • @jbuzz11
    @jbuzz116 жыл бұрын

    Roll tide! Thanks for the comparison!

  • @randynewtonsr9659
    @randynewtonsr96596 жыл бұрын

    I too have the Evosaw 380 and while it's pretty good for the money, I'm a perfectionist and I was hoping for a little better quality going by all the hype on the Evosaw !!😏

  • @Jandejongjong

    @Jandejongjong

    3 жыл бұрын

    Randy Newton Sr use a better blade. Evo blades are strange.. They chop and slide.. all bumpy cuts.

  • @dougankrum3328
    @dougankrum33283 жыл бұрын

    I haven't used one of these saws ...yet....but I'm 73 and every decent 'C' clamp I've ever used or seen in stores has a buttress or acme thread...like gear pullers...the standard 60 degree threads aren't designed for this application...but they are cheap... Actually not just 'C' clamps...but pretty much any type of clamp...metal working or wood-working...buttress or acme...you can really lean on them... The cast-iron tables on these saws seem stiffer and better...but I've owned and used several saws with stamped steel frames....they work fine if you don't bend them...or clamp them down on something un-even....and....most chop saws leave a small 'gap' under the drop side of the piece you're cutting so it falls away and doesn't jam the blade and damage it... I've cut 1,000's of pieces of material daily on chop saws (Aluminum and Steel)...if you want to get a nice cut, the better saws will not have that gap under the 'drop'...but you have to clamp both sides of the blade...otherwise you can find yourself with a bad cut on your hand or leg from that drop flying off....cutting many 5"-6" pieces from 20 foot long material....

  • @papalilburn
    @papalilburn4 жыл бұрын

    How can you expect a used blade to cut with the same accuracy of a new blade?

  • @mariantoader1260

    @mariantoader1260

    4 жыл бұрын

    O observația cat se poate de corecta! 😉

  • @davids1681
    @davids16814 жыл бұрын

    A bit TL;DW for me, so maybe you cover this - but the DeWalt's clamp jaw pivot, on a shaft that's deliberately NOT perpendicular to the table (I'm guessing in order to tend to hold stuff down against the table). The clearly-unintended result of this is that every damned time you clamp something, it's literally bending the heavy sheet-metal base material up along the adjustment slot. I had one table replaced under warranty because this was throwing my cuts off of perpendicular. Throughout that painful process, DeWalt seemed utterly clueless about this problem, where I'd have expected them to have realized how bad the design was by then and have retrofitted with something better. OTOH...the Evolution has a lot of cast iron in the base, which seems solid (I had an early model and thought I'd watch to see if it's been improved) but I shoved mine back at the seller almost immediately when I found I was having to diddle around with shims under the fence... and then that the saw mounting itself wasn't square to the base. Cast iron is cheap as hell, and though it may seem solid because of its weight, it's brittle and no better than the machining precision used at the factory. Carrying it around isn't a picnic, either. And not using an Acme-threaded clamping screw is just intolerably amateur. If someone made a precise cast-aluminum retrofit base for the DeWalt, I'd be looking to buy it.

  • @thisdj83
    @thisdj833 жыл бұрын

    My Dewalt gouged the slot where the blade goes into when it's pushed down. I don't know how. I put somebody to cut on my 2 day old saw and somehow it gouged the open slot. I used it since and I don't see how this happened but it did.

  • @squirrel6687
    @squirrel66873 жыл бұрын

    So far, how much thickness, in and out of print does that brand coating add to the saw blades? The DeWalt's at the point of contact and is not deep in and out of paint craters and hills. The Evolution is obviously. The needle was moving. The previous point about the quality of the cuts will have been informative, however. Old vs new blade, bad comparison. Blade break-in helpful, at least with paint removal? It's the base you mentioned earlier as the culprit for the significant consistent deviation in one direction.

  • @pawelaco
    @pawelaco5 жыл бұрын

    Super EVOLUTION machine. A great review. Super movie. Super lajk. greetings

  • @AJC-jo3ds
    @AJC-jo3ds6 жыл бұрын

    Get yourself a Diablo D1472CF blade, they outperform any dry cut blade 5x plus they also cut stainless steel and the best part is the price, $89.97 no other blade compares...Diablo leads the market in carbide technology..

  • @sheilamclaughlin963

    @sheilamclaughlin963

    4 жыл бұрын

    That blade on the dewalt has messed up teeth

  • @Paulman50
    @Paulman506 жыл бұрын

    Evolution gave him the saw, I thought the review would only cover points that Evolution would win. But I watched the video anyway. My thoughts are that the clamp screw is stuffed already and at a guess, the motor will burn out before the Dewalt .

  • @CrippleConcepts
    @CrippleConcepts6 жыл бұрын

    I have an Evolution and am fairly happy with it, but use my horizontal bandsaw far more frequently. John Saunders, nyccnc on youtube, makes a base for the Dewalts that seems like a huge upgrade....but of course that makes a fairly expensive saw super expensive. I almost always cut my material the way you did, but have seen a lot of others cut material the opposite way (flat horizontal) and that seems like a recipe for excessive heat in the blade and excessive wear on the blade. The same is true on horizontal bandsaws. Nobody would cut a piece of 3/4" x 4" material on a vertical badsaw with the 4" vertical, so why would anyone do so on a chop saw or horizontal bandsaw? I feel like I must be missing something, but maybe we are doing it right and most others are doing it wrong :-).

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    6 жыл бұрын

    Agree with all your points on the horizontal bandsaw, I use mine most often as well, but a lot of home garage guys don't have one and this is a good solution

  • @CrippleConcepts

    @CrippleConcepts

    6 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree, I started with a drill press and Evolution chop saw in my apartment.

  • @gabewhisen3446
    @gabewhisen34465 жыл бұрын

    The fine thread enables more clamping force acme thread is stronger but by hand you can apply more force with fine thread

  • @Brainmalfuction
    @Brainmalfuction6 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison i hope you compare the out put of the electric motors in future videos as thats a huge point of conversation

  • @petertwiss356
    @petertwiss3563 жыл бұрын

    dood ... what a review, this is what I am talking about, legit metrics.

  • @etrtoolsrepairworkshop8295
    @etrtoolsrepairworkshop82952 жыл бұрын

    Evolution cut of saw is outstanding and way way far better than all cut off saw I've came across with.very good machine trust me.

  • @johnnylongchallon740
    @johnnylongchallon7406 жыл бұрын

    Does it have any blade to cut wood with these saw

  • @johnwalters6800
    @johnwalters68003 жыл бұрын

    Will this type of saw work on stainless and brass. I use my bandsaw on aluminum.

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    3 жыл бұрын

    Brass, yes, its a free machining material, Stainles, no, the blade turns too fast and it will dull it very quickly

  • @choochoo3985
    @choochoo39855 жыл бұрын

    Great job, but all blades have a run out which doesn't relate to the power source.

  • @Karlheuken

    @Karlheuken

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don't you just love to watch guys unbox stuff?

  • @bbil8165

    @bbil8165

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Karlheuken 1

  • @52rider
    @52rider6 жыл бұрын

    Great video thankyou! I have tick metal plate thickness is about 100mm, and I want to cut it 3mm narrow (like slice) - do you think it is possible? How narrow can I cut with this machine?

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes i think so. I would prob cut 4mm slice, and then grind/sand it down to your final size

  • @jovannlopez9899
    @jovannlopez98995 жыл бұрын

    You should do both new machines .

  • @tonydeleo3642
    @tonydeleo36422 жыл бұрын

    What is the lever behind the left side of the fence on the DeWalt?

  • @adamfilip
    @adamfilip6 жыл бұрын

    how true and square is this saw?

  • @tcmixman
    @tcmixman5 жыл бұрын

    I have an Evo rage and it’s going 10 years strong.

  • @Hunteratloppshop

    @Hunteratloppshop

    4 жыл бұрын

    What blades?? Because no fool would use their trash blades and be happy

  • @CLPRPSD
    @CLPRPSD3 жыл бұрын

    Is the dewalt base not flat because you have it bolted down in all 4 corners to something that isn’t flat, effectively twisting it?

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    3 жыл бұрын

    the 4 corners its bolted to is floating and will adjust to the base rather than the opposite

  • @damonhowe1390
    @damonhowe13904 жыл бұрын

    Best review I’ve seen on these saws Thanks

  • @simonlang2001
    @simonlang20015 жыл бұрын

    That V block is also good for setting block/suqare to put a point upwards to save the teeth on the blades.

  • @jakubstanko4059
    @jakubstanko40593 жыл бұрын

    17:58 sec. What's that's strange sound when Evo. Almost stopped ?

  • @paulgrep3193
    @paulgrep31935 жыл бұрын

    I think there s was a short review in there- between all the KZread adverts.......

  • @LemonySnicket-EUC

    @LemonySnicket-EUC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Drag the red dot to the end of video. Then drag it back and watch video with no commercials.

  • @markhenry1317
    @markhenry13176 жыл бұрын

    What does chop saw imply??????

  • @jasonjames2233
    @jasonjames22336 жыл бұрын

    OK, I am more of a small shop that does about anything people wants done. I have just switched to this type of blade. The first one I bought was a Beast Pro from Lackmond. It lasted exactly 11 cuts. Then you couldn't force it thru butter. I have a dewalt saw and not looking to change. What blade do you recommend? The Evolution or something totally different? I never hear you say whats you are running on the dewalt. I would classify myself more as a hobbyist so my stuff doesn't have to be perfect but I can not afford to but a new blade every 11 cuts. Just want something that will last

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    6 жыл бұрын

    Is yoru dewalt saw made for the old style abrasive cutoff blades or is it the DW872 like i showed in the vid? You cant just put the carbide blade on the old type saws, they turn way too fast and wear out the blade very quickly.

  • @jasonjames2233

    @jasonjames2233

    6 жыл бұрын

    Its an 871 turns 3800RPM.

  • @jasonjames2233

    @jasonjames2233

    6 жыл бұрын

    I guess thats the issue. When I was talking with Lackmond they never asked me that. So Maybe I need a new saw as well. It would be worth it to keep from having to grind off all them burrs everytime. So with that said even though this is a Evolution review do you have a good saw you recommend as well? I just need to save time. Time is money. I probably don't do fabrication type work once a month or so I do mostly restoration stuff Maybe I need to just stick with my Lennox diamond blade. and keep grinding.

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cant wrong with dewalt or evolution, both are good

  • @jeffreyhunterbuilder
    @jeffreyhunterbuilder6 жыл бұрын

    Very thorough review, kind of disappointing that Evolution would make such a nice machine, then cheap out on the threads, I hope they fix that. nice work on the review.

  • @sirmalus5153

    @sirmalus5153

    Жыл бұрын

    The Raptor saw I have didn't come with the interrupted thread tightening, it's the first model and still going strong, after 9 years DIY use. It also still cuts square no problem, with none of the 'chatter' effect shown in this video. I don't think he had it set up right.

  • @brianharrigan8821
    @brianharrigan88214 жыл бұрын

    My observation was that 2 hands weren't the intended method on the ' finger wheel's of the Evo saw !! You used 2 hands and quite a bit of effort to loosen the clamp , resulting in permanent damage to the mechanism !! The Dewalt is no different , 1 hand,/ 2 fingers. Good effort though on the description. Cheers

  • @petermarsh4993
    @petermarsh49932 жыл бұрын

    Dear Gary, from where I sit, the bearings on the Evo sound shot. That would give you the run-out on the cut. As for the Dewalt, if you look back at the video, the metal is not sitting flat on the bed. This means your cut is not 90˚ but something less. If you are fabricating, you want the pieces square so that when welded, you end up with accurate square joints in both directions. Neither saw passes the build quality test. How about trying a bosch? German manufacture rather than CCMIC {Cheap crap made in China}.

  • @roarkludwig1724
    @roarkludwig17242 жыл бұрын

    ordered this saw, based on this and some other reviews. Evolution S380CPS: Metal Cutting Chop Saw THe saw arrived DEFECTIVE,, the "lock" used to change the blade does not work. As there is not blade installed, it was a complete show stopper... How could a simple thing like this get missed ?

  • @turbocobra

    @turbocobra

    2 жыл бұрын

    aww that sux... you just got unlucky. could have been packed wrong, could have just been mfg defect, etc. I bougth an ice maker recently on amazon and it had all good reviews, mine worked for 1 day and stopped workign and leaked water all over the place. No sense being emotional, upset or butthurt about it. just get a replacement and keep on moving

  • @athanasiosskrikas7809
    @athanasiosskrikas7809 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with "R" who made the comment. My raptor 355 doesn't cut strictly vertically. I've problem.

  • @Fives-gm2bv
    @Fives-gm2bv4 жыл бұрын

    Good video. It kept me from purchasing evolution saw.

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    @renanrodrigoarce10854 жыл бұрын

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