This is the best technical and informative review so far from real life experiences. Not like other Sony paid KZreadrs who is misleading people by just reading the spec.

Another awesome time with Adrian explaining the real life experience of using the camera. Thanks so much for your input and expertise, just loved it.

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I'll be releasing another video soon with my thoughts on the A7RIV for wildlife photography after twelve months. Watch for it soon. Cheers.

Best review / explanation of pros and cons I’ve seen. Excellent work. Thank you!!

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Andy, thanks for watching!

I appreciate your candid and thoughtful analysis

I've seeen almost all the reviews on sony a7r iv, but this has been the best and on point information I needed. You've got a subscriber.

Thanks for this extraordinary review and the opportunity to see those stunning pictures.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Didimio Rios thanks for watching!

A refreshingly no nonsense, very well presented review, by a real professional.

The most thorough insight about the A7RIV. Thanks so much!

New subscriber (with the bell). I enjoyed your experienced-based presentation and great advice. Good to know about the dual gain ISO points (100 and 320 ISO). Keep up the great work. I’m looking forward to your next video.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and subscribing Darrell.

Adrian, just received a Sony FE 135mm f1.8 lens and tried it out today while the sun was out. You were correct about this lens, the detail is awesome! Even some crops over 300% were as sharp as a tack. Just incredible detail on the A7Riv ! Thanks so much for mentioning this lens, will try it out in nature photography soon. Thanks once again for your expert advice.

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you’ve got it. Yeah it’s really something else. Honestly, once you have it, it becomes pretty easy to compare every other lens to it. Just ridiculously sharp and fast to focus. Enjoy it! It’s a real weapon for sure. :)

I’m a little late to the party, but I wanted to thank you for the very informative video. This is what KZread should be all about.

Nice vid! Even though i have extremely short attention span, i actually sat through the entire vid because you covered important, hence interesting topics about the cameras! :)

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Shook! Thanks for watching. I hope you found it useful.

I have become very impressed with you thoughtful and balanced reviews of the equipment you have featured. There is no such thing as the perfect camera or lens and there is always a price to pay when you make your decisions and that price is not always in terms of money but in results. I now place you in a small group of KZreadrs that I consider capable of giving authoritative reviews that carry considerable weight with me. I look forward to your postings! You have a refreshing perspective such as evidenced in a recent posting where you were talking about the 4:3 sensor commonality between a GFX 100 and a Micro 4/3rds Olympus camera and how the differences in capability can be complimentary due to the costs and benefits of the sensor pixel counts. The GFX has no long telephoto lenses while Micro 4/3rds offer extreme telephoto lenses a compact and relatively inexpensive form factor. This is great food for thought and will spur some personal experimentation as I have both systems.

Thank you for a very informative and excellent commentary on these Sony cameras.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hey John. Thanks for watching.

Thank you for making this video, it’s been so very helpful. As a Sony A7RII user with 200-600mm it’s so informative as I look to upgrade. Thanks again.

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Stephen, the only thing to be aware of is that there are some known problems with the A7RIV and the 200-600. These problems aren't so well known when I made this video. Feel free to discuss on my Discord server in the #gear-gab channel: clickon.link/wildlifephototalk. Quite a few people there have the combination and have experienced the issues. You can also Google for it.

One of the best review about A7R4. New sub.

Good review of the a7RIV. Well done.

This is the review I’ve been waiting for, a review by a wildlife photographer who used the gear under real conditions - not just a company junket - and for a good length of time. I watch KZread for content not fluff. You delivered! Thank you! New subscriber.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and subscribing Selkii!

Extremely sharp on the eye ball. Amamzing.

Brilliant video. Thank you 👍🏻

fantastic review! Really appreciate the deep technical analyses.. although now i have to go out and find a prime telephoto.. dang. many thanks again, Adrian.

you can set the custom C1 to alternate between crop and full sensor when it's in full 61mp you see a square as soon as you switch to crop mode that square box disappears I expect you have found that out since making this video great explanation wish all photographers would make their videos this good

Thank you a lot. Now I understand the prime and the zoom lenses with the MK 4. You tell me a new story about this. Also about the Buffer. I'll go looking for the A7Rmkiii, the A92 can wait, lol! Cheers, get lucky as you Travel

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Frits. I'm glad this video was helpful to you.

Excellent video with great detail on your images!

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and subscribing!

Thank goodness you mentioned you spent over 1 month in the field, as opposed to most of these youtubers who rush to be first and do reviews after 1 or 2 days, you have a new sub

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for subscribing. Yeah I felt that was really important. It's a complex camera and we all shoot in a wide variety of conditions and have a wide range of requirements so it's important to explore as much as possible.

@longrider9551

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography I rented the r4 and shot it with the 200-600 , I loved it but I was shooting in good light, I have an A6600 on rental next week to see how that works, just an amateur but I would like to make the right choice

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

That’s good to hear about the A7RIV and the 200-600. It seems there are definitely some people who have had success with that combination. As you point out, having good light would definitely help.

A really informative and intelligent video - thank you! As an A9 owner who has recently bought the A7Riv as well, this is a great resource and has helped me to make smart choices about when to use each body. Sadly, buying a 400mm or 600mm prime is probably never going to be realistic for me, but deciding which of my lenses to put on which camera - particularly in conditions where swapping lenses is less than ideal (dusty or wet primarily) - has been made more logical for me by watching this. Maybe I'll buy the Sony 135mm prime! Thanks again - a new subscriber!

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Bruce Hargrave I’m glad this was helpful to you. The 135 GM is quite honestly an incredible lens for the size and weight. I just got back from photographing blue morph arctic fox in Iceland and even though I shot with the 400 GM, pretty much all my best images were with taken with the 135 GM. I’ll be making a video about this soon.

Fantastic review, this explained so much about this camera, and which lenses to use. I have bothe the A9II and A7riv and am in the process of deciding which lenses to get for each.

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Janet. Thanks for watching. I'm glad this was helpful. Let me know if I can help with any lens advice. Feel free to ask here or on my Discord server: clickon.link/wildphototalk. Cheers.

Thank you Adrian. You have helped me make a decision to purchase A7RIV.

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear! I think it's still one of the best cameras on the market now.

Thank you very much for this very informative post. I just bought a second hand a7R4, and I like to use it for wildlife photography after listening to you I am thinking did I made a mistake by buying this camera for wildlife photographer.

Another great video. I went onboard with Sony since their very first mirrorless a7i and stayed loyal since then. My favorite Sony is the alpha 7R4 coupled with a variety of GM lenses. I occasionally hop on and off to my medium sensor Gfx100 and Hasselblads. I strongly believe the R4 is currently one of the best all round high “megapickles” although I get the feeling that when shooting above ISO 800 the R4 comes closer to the R3 and outputs beyond size become near identical...!!!

Thanks - it’s a few years down the line but your views are very helpful. I’ve bought used A7R4 and A9iii to trial switch over to Sony… I like zooms… I used to use prime in Nikon days but don’t have staff to carry them 😂. It’ll be interesting to see how imperfect the zooms are.😮

Excellent info

Very detailed and to the point information Thx. Do you recommend F 135 lens for birding as well?

Excellent Video, and sub as well!

Thanks for this very informative and concise video Adrian! Can I use crop mode with my teleconverter on the 100- 400 mm Sony GM lens. I currently own a Sony A7iii but I will be getting a second camera body...probably there A7Riv. The prime lenses are not affordable for me at this time.

Great Vid! Thank you.

Great Video! Glad to see your review is after several months of use in the field. I am a just now subscribed subscriber. But.. since I am an A7R4 and 200-600 user.. I do take exception to your writing off the 200-600. And ftom what I can see you haven't used it yet. But I could be Wrong.. I'm still a new subscriber and thank you for your matter of fact opinions.. well except for that one detail. Keep up the good work!

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Billy. Thanks for watching. As I did say, I haven’t used the 200-600. It’s not that I am writing off the 200-600 but I’m just saying I don’t think you’re going to get as much out of this camera compared to using primes, especially because of the noise at higher ISOs. The thing is that properties such as sharpness and noise levels are subjective so everyone will have their own opinion. I know of many people who agree with me that the zooms are not the best with the A7RIV and others who do not.

@nrocha2466

4 жыл бұрын

the 200600 is actually excellent on the A7RIV. I know many using this combo are every happy with results achieved. I sold my 100400 for the 200600 with zero regret. It is sharper (by a hair) from 400mm onward, and doesn't require a tc. On 100400GM the TC puts you at f8 @ 560mm which isn't good on the A7RIV. 6.3 is fine. Also, lookup Mark Adalholfs latest E mount lense test for the A7RIV. The 200600 is in the recommended list for R4 and it was better in the center (where it matters for wildlife) than the 100400GM . See Link: sonyalpha.blog/2019/11/10/which-lenses-to-maximise-the-potential-of-the-sony-a7riv/

Hi Adrian, another fantastic video! I would like to know how you handle two topics I am very unhappy with: how to handle dust on the sensor and h

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Andreas! For the dust on the sensor, I generally don’t have much problem with this. However I rarely change lenses and when I do I use a blower and carefully inspect the sensor and the back element of the lens. I also send the cameras in for cleaning once a year.

Thank you , it was a great vid.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Frits, thanks for watching. I'm glad you found it helpful.

WOW!!!

Hi! Just stumbled upon your site. Great and balanced info. I have been shooting birds with Nikon D500/500mmF5.6 and am thinking of switching to Sony 200-600 lens. Shall I pair it with A9 or A7R4? I am not a pro and photograph mainly birds and like to shoot handheld. I wanted to order A9 but the camera advised 7R4. From what I have gathered so far, A9 seem to be the choice and re-affirmed after listening to your analysis on low ISO performance , burst rate /buffer etc. Thank you!

Great video! Longer videos tend to ramble but you kept my interest with your precise explanations of real world scenarios. I'm upgrading from a A7III and I'm torn between an A9 or a A7R IV. I can get both for the same price now. I want both eventually. I think I should get the A9 first since I have no GM prime lenses yet, only GM zooms and shot accuracy is more important to me than resolution at this point.

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Hey John. Thanks for watching. I hope it was helpful for you. If you can live with the 24 MP of the A9 then I think you’re making the best decision. The good news is that when you do go to the A7RIV you will be in for a special treat with the resolution (but as I say it comes at a price). Overall I think the main thing about the A7RIV is that it can be amazing but you really have to know how to work the camera and that it becomes even harder if you’re shooting with smaller aperture lenses. Dealing with some of the constraints is possible in some cases but also impossible (and potentially frustrating) in other situations such as if you are trying to capture a lot of fast action or sustained action. Good luck with your decision.

@johnscott1372

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography Thank You! I'm picking up an A9 tomorrow. I'm thinking of getting the A7R IV when the xmas specials roll in along with the GM 135 lens. I've been shooting Sony for 1.5 years. I've been working on my glass. I have the Sony GM 24-70 and 70-200mm, 90mm Macro, 55mm 1.8 Zeiss and the Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 Art right now. Being fairly new to photography the A9 is a great tool to hone my skills. I totally agree I need GM primes to really max out the A7R. I believe in getting good glass first since they work great with lesser cameras as well. It sets you up for success instead of frustration.

Adrian, thank you for this video. I'm going to purchase the A7Riv and this video really helps solidify that decision.

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Anthony Roberts awesome to hear! Let me know how it goes or if I can help in any way. Stay safe.

@anthonyroberts7987

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography Thank you Adrian! File size seems to be the main area of concern for me, however I relaize I can reduce the size for website posting etc. Today I see they announced the a7s iii, but the IV is still calling me!

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Anthony Roberts I don’t even really think about the file sizes now that I am used to it. Yeah the A7SIII should be in stores in a week or so. I have one on order but mostly for video although I do want to see how it will do for stills at higher ISOs to see how the “faux dual ISO behavior” works with stills but with only 12 MP there won’t be much cropping going on!

@anthonyroberts7987

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography I really do appreciate you taking timne to read and reply to all the questions and comments. Your videos are so very helpful. Much appreciated. I'm looking forward to using the camera once all the wildfire fire smoke departs!

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Anthony Roberts glad to help if I can. Not sure if you’ve seen some of my later videos where I mention it but I have a Discord server at clickon.link/wildlifephototalk where you’re welcome to drop in any time to chat about aspect of wildlife photography.

Appreciate your examples with the crop. So many other videos out there without actual examples!

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Hi. First of all thank you so much for such explicative video… I have to decide between a7 r4 and A9ii but I can’t find anything that match my necessities…. I do dancesport photography, which means fast action under many different conditions… low lights, coloured lights, strobe lights etc etc… I am using an A7iii with the 70-200 f2.8 . It does the job but there is too much edit to do after, and what I am looking for is to give the photos during the competition. If you have a suggestion I really appreciate

Thank you so much for this video, I was totaly lost, there is so much options and compromises. Your experience is extremely helpful. Great video and wonderful pictures too.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Where are you at? Are you using the A7RIV already?

@wild5144

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography Thanks? It's a pleasure to see your videos. :) I shoot with a canon 70D and a native 55-250 mm. I feel more and more limited and want to jump into mirrorless. I'll try to explain my thought about the hardware: where I leave, I essentially shoot in low light and BIF during day, so I'm always in ISO between 800-2500. For me Iso is a biggest deal than the resolution. Your video really helped me to understand that. Sure that the A7R4 is an awesome camera, maybe one of the greatest in good light conditions, but seems to lose his advantages when the Iso noise increase. Thats why, I think that I need more a camera from the A9 series, . That's just what I imagine, I speak a lot, but to be honest I never handled any mirrorles camera. That's why precious videos like yours are really hepful. Sorry for my poor english skills. enjoy ;)

Well done Adrian. Lots of useful info and zero ego. Just found you and just subscribed. I am Canon user who is switching to Sony. A7RIV w/200-600 will be delivered next week (after long wait for the lens). I am super-serious amateur and BIF is my main focus along w/wildlife in general. Despite the fact that I have watched many videos about A7RIV that were interesting and helpful, yours added to my knowledge, so thank you. If you do a video on how you have set up your IV, that would be wonderful. Looking forward to watching your past and upcoming videos. 👍👍👍

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Don. Thanks for watching and subscribing. Good luck with your new setup and shooting!

@vettepwr23

2 жыл бұрын

Hello. How did this combination turn out? The A7RIV and the 200-600 that is.

Your review answers almost all my questions! REMARKABLE! What I would like to add is that if you have second gain at ISO3200 it seems unreasonable to keep your ISO at 1600-2500. You produce the worst noise. The best thing to do seems to be to go to ISO3200. Unless it is implemented in different way than in Panasonic and Blackmagic cameras. In those, picture just clears up magically when second ISO circuit kicks in. Isn't it so in A7R IV? Second circuit kicking in sooner seems to be better unless you shoot at night. Also I heard that there are differences in brightness at the same ISO between III and IV that when you take into account, noise levels differences are negligible. Can you confirm that after further use? BTW... if only A7R III had bigger grip, bigger battery, better EVF, better AF and both card slots UHS-II, I would not even think about A7R IV ;) Its resolution is no asset to me.

I love your style of review and am blown away by all the answers you give in the comment sections. I am a recent convert (2 months) from Nikon Dslr to Sony A7r4. Still playing around with landscape photography using a tripod. So no issues with high ISO as I don't need it. I have a 100-400 Sony GM which I feel for my usage is an excellent lens. My daily go to lens is the 24-105 f4 and a 16-35 for wide angle. I am planning a trip to Africa either in 2020 or 2021 and will require higher ISO so may try out a prime by renting it. I see that you visited Zambia, Botswana and SA, I would love to know your opinion of which country would offer a better chance at capturing the big cats and Elephants. I can only spend 10-12 days tops. Thanks for your tutorial, looking forward to many more.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Satish. Thanks for watching and thank you for your kind words. Congrats on moving to Sony. No system is perfect but I think Sony definitely has some good stuff going right now but still lots of areas to improve which is great for the future. Before Sony brought out the long primes and I switched over to primes, I had all the Sony zooms you have and they are all fantastic. Regarding Africa, generally I would say apart from the country, the thing that makes a huge difference is if you are able to afford a private guide as opposed to being in a group. This way you have complete freedom to do what you want with your guide and driver. This is what I always do and it makes a huge difference. I also think it makes a big difference to go places where there are fewer people and vehicles. It’s a much nicer experience and there’s less crowding around on sightings. Better for you and better for the animals. Now as for countries I personally think Zambia is fantastic and in the years ahead we can expect it to become a lot more popular. The only thing is I did find a lot of the wildlife, like the elephants, smaller than in other countries but it made no difference to me. South Africa is somewhat unique in that there are a lot of private game reserves and these operate differently to the national parks in most other countries. Basically it means better sightings including being able to off-road more. If you want elephants I think Amboseli in Kenya and Tarangire in Tanzania are hard to beat but there’s no offroading and more crowds. For cats, South Luangwa in Zambia is pretty good. However Sabi Sands in South Africa is generally regarded as the mecca for leopards. I’d be happy to chat to tell you more if you want to try to contact me through Facebook Messenger. There is a link to contact me on the About tab in this channel.

Very detail explanation i dozed off

A great review. I wanted info about high ISO with this camera and the 200-600mm zoom lens which I have. With fast action subjects and shooting in manual with high shutter speeds ISO has to be high. This produces more grain in images. Coming from Nikon and using f/4 super telephoto lens there was a very noticeable difference in ISO range. It's a learning curve and videos like this help explain what I am experiencing. Thank you!

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I'm glad it was helpful.

I'm enjoying your videos and I am grateful for your efforts. If I may give you a suggestion, try to keep the intro more condensed. This video starts at the minute 4. Most people, including me will just move on to watch something else. I understand this is not easy to do, but it will make the video more dynamic and to the point. I wish you the best

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Raul. Thanks for watching. I really appreciate the feedback. Thanks for taking the time to share it.

Yep the not being able to switch when buffer between crop and ff is a big one. Also happens in video mode would be nice to switch live there too. Ill do some speed compare between the a7R3 and a7R4 you do assume you are only shooting one card.

@scb2scb2

4 жыл бұрын

I just made a video (uploading now) comparing some of the speed differences between the R3 and R4 side by side in my normal messy way :) Should be online in about 30min.

I shoot birds and wildlife. Here we are in 2022 and I am using the a7rIV with the G master 100-400mm and sometimes with the 1.4x teleconverter since this great camera came out. I had been a Canon shooter for years having moved from Sony years earlier to the 5Dmk II, 5DmkIII and the 5DmkIV which is probably in its time was the best wedding photography camera available. I needed the higher resolution to crop into which at the time Canon was stuck in a rut and was behind times not being able to keep up with technology which Sony was leading the market. I became frustrated with Canon not being able to deliver what I needed having waited almost 2 years for Canon's counteroffer to what Sony had available. I sold everything and moved over to the a7rIV with no regrets. The high-resolution issues are more pronounced like ISO noise which was a frustration but now with programs like Topaz DeNoise AI and ON1 NoNoise AI, that issue has been all but removed from the table. Each of those editing products adds to POST time which the better of the two programs (in some situations) takes longer to process the image. As far as the quality of the 100-400mm GM glass, I find it better than Canon and there have been KZread videos addressing that question, I think accurately. I had the same issues with burst mode. Now having mastered the a7rIV to my satisfaction, time spent in that mode is limited. Yes, I might not get some shots, but I am better at the getting the images I do get without having to spend more time editing sorting through the tons and tons of what use to be wasted shots that eat up buffer time. I now use burst mode more selectively. Going back, this is a great review that addressed questions I had back then, which through KZreads algorithm, or your long title, I somehow, missed. Final word. The a7rIV and the 100-400mm GM lens combination is a camera package that will be hard to replace as it does what I need it to do. Yes, I do have a hit list of things that Sony should do in the next offering to tempt me to spend more money on this photographic addiction I have. I did have the Canon 500mm f4 lens which was "the lens" especially with their 1.4x teleconverter. The Sony glass quality has satisfied my need and lightened my gear weight significantly.

Hey Adrian, I find this particular video amongst one or two others are changing the way I am looking at the A7R IV. Initially, I had thought for birds cropping in would be key and hi res would definitely be the way to go plus quite frankly many KZread birders have all picked the A7R IV over the A9 or A9 II. Then, you got me to rethink the whole thing a little bit starting with the buffering issue. I can definitely see that as a problem, if I am not wrong it would take like a second to clear one frame, so you could be talking about a wait for 40-50 secs there for the buffer to clear. That is eternity in wildlife photography and perhaps even more so for birds. Then, it got me to clear the deck if you will to think about what are my current biggest issues which I hope could be alleviated if not sorted with an upgrade? 2 things immediately popped out: 1) focusing accuracy and 2) high ISO performance/noise control (for birds in the shade under thick foliage). To add on top of that, you also mentioned perhaps it might be a better idea to pick the A7R III over the R IV if you are shooting zooms (aka moi), i.e.meaning the lens in question such as the 200-600mm just might not have enough resolving power to be able to fully capitalize on the mega high resolution of the A7R IV sensor. Then, it got me thinking, why not go one up on your suggestion and just go with the A9?! The tracking is better (although not by much according to you), continuous mode is much faster at 20 fps (double of that of the A7R IV), there is much less of a buffering issue and you can shoot at much higher ISO without a worry in the world. And the icing on the cake? The original A9 is now practically at the same price as the A7 R IV. The other alternative is to pick the A7R IV and shoot at APS-C mode full time to alleviate buffering while enjoying the benefit of boosting the focal length without having to use a teleconverter. With the A9, I will definitely have to use a TC. What do you think?

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Alex. I think if birds, especially fast birds, are your primary subjects then the A9 or A9II may be a better option. The thing about the A7RIV is that the resolution is very alluring. Once you get used to it, it is hard to go back. I’ve experienced that and I know some other people with both A7RIVs and A9/A9IIs have as well. However there are definitely some drawbacks to that bigger sensor as I described in this video. I think if you are careful and consider the limitations and try to figure out how to modify your shooting style, you can work around some of the limitations a bit but only to a point. If you are considering the 200-600 then there is another issue that has surfaced that has to be considered and that is that it seems there might be issues with using the 200-600 and the A7RIV. I know Sony is looking into this but nothing has been confirmed yet and some people are having issues and others are not. Is it possible for you to rent some of this gear for a week to give it a try?

@Pflichteingabe

4 ай бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotographyhey, do you know if the issue is still there with the RIV and the 200-600? I just cannot find any answer, it seems solved because of the lack of people complaining?

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 ай бұрын

@Pflichteingabe sorry but I don’t know if they ever solved it. I am guessing not.

@Pflichteingabe

4 ай бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotographythank you for your opinion 😊

Well it has to be noted that the only thing the crop mode can do for you is reduce the file size of your images. Aside of that it really doesn't have a single benefit over cropping in post (which is what I'd prefer 100% of the time).

Excellent shots and review content 👏👏

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Are you currently using the A7RIV?

@orbitaljellyfish808

4 жыл бұрын

Adrian Cho Photography Not yet, I’m trying to decide between R4 and 9ii. Beyond obvious points much advice out there seems a little too shilly, so learning more than just cameras. This vid of yours (love the time stamps in description) is succinct, has examples, and isn’t more of the same. Don’t want to invest in Nik or Can glass with their lineups stalled. Sony has legs looking forward but a steep learning curve just behind them (and not over yet of course) so older models seem like a recipe for regret; which for me I’d prefer overbuying than frustration. Prior to seeing this I was leaning toward R4 and (for now) 2 GM lenses (24-70 2.8 and 100-400 4) but your point about primes resolving the 61mp fits with other things I’ve seen. I’d rather down the line perceive my 9 to be on balance with the zoom lenses than pine for $12k lenses for the r4, and also 1) decide between monster file sizes or lossy compression/jpg 2) suffer buffer jam between full/crop (was a key component of my $trategy) or 3) the extra post refinement on larger files the r4 will require. R4 is cheaper but not “new mega laptop” cheaper. Some of the 9ii’s shots out the camera are tip top. I do like the pixelshift thing tho; esp being in SF with so many landmarks to shoot with it. Decisions decisions lol Seems like a9ii is said to be released but I’m not seeing all the unboxing vids. Odd.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Orbital Jellyfish can I ask what you’re mostly shooting? One thing that’s still a great option is the A7RIII and the money saved getting that could go to good glass. The 42MP on the A7RIII is still a lot of resolution. However the tracking AF is not as good as the A7RIV (and of course not as good as the A9 or A9II). I’ve gotten over the compressed RAW format and the slight loss of dynamic range with it. Despite my opinion on the primes being the best match, which I still stand by, others are using the R4 with the zooms and are happy. Everyone has different tolerances for noise and different ideas of what’s sharp enough and not everyone wants to make big prints. One thing you could do is get the two zooms you mentioned and get the R4 and evaluate it within the return period to see whether the high ISO performance is an issue for you. If you’re not happy with that as well as dealing with the bigger sizes, get the A9II, or save money and get an A9.

@orbitaljellyfish808

4 жыл бұрын

Adrian Cho Photography Yeah I am unfortunately very picky and need to keep post processing as close to zero as possible, so, tidying up more % of larger files is a double whammy, and skipping that work may disappoint customers. And, I acknowledge my sophomoric outlook. I desire a variety of shots; sunsets, landmarks, portraits/business, sports, journalism, and some wildlife, so I really need both bodies. I did a basic matrix and speed/quality matter more than definition for the shots most likely to sell. In other words, a9ii will pay for an R4 faster than vice versa. I dig your thinking tho, I just spent a week exploring the entire alpha line and it’s price points. If this was hobby based I would get the a7ii for 900 and get glass gradually. For pro pursuits, the Riii is very tempting as 42mp is such a nice balance (!!) (I have big hands tho, and even the r4 feels small to me). My biggest priority is delivering great results for customers. I want them to be super impressed, and the a9ii seems better aligned to consistently deliver that with the least fuss. I’m wondering what it’s long term resale will look like.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Orbital Jellyfish regarding the small body size you could either get the Sony extension grip, which is also helpful if shoot a lot of verticals, or get an extension grip. I recently switched to using the SmallRig L-brackets on some of my cameras and they extend the grip a bit further. Interestingly I am also looking at an A9II right now for shooting some music events and need the A9’s distortion-free silent shutter as well as its much better high ISO performance. I already have one A9 but would ideally like two bodies so it’s either A9II or a second-hand A9.

Excellent video! After what you have experienced and, i know you do not own the 200-600, but if you had the choice between the R4 and A9 for wildlife, which one would you pick?? For now i own the aps-c a6300 but i do not know if this camera will be a good match with the 200-600 and therefor i am looking for a suitable fullframe…thank you and keep on the good work😀👍

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Ron. Thanks for watching. So a couple of things. Firstly, everyone asks whether the A7RIV or the R9 for wildlife and it really depends so much on what you shoot. As I mentioned in the video, I think the A7RIV is very capable for wildlife but it cannot compare to the A9 if you are trying to capture critical frames for fast action or if there’s a lot of sustained action. What animals are you usually shooting (please try to be specific)? As for the 200-600, some people have had success with it with the A7RIV but you do need a lot of light in order to avoid going high on the ISO.

@ronschuddeboomdigiscoping3693

4 жыл бұрын

Adrian Cho Photography Thank you for your answer, i will mostly shoot birds. I did digiscoping and shoot through a telescoop but only stationary birds, birds in flight are almost imposible with this method

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Ron Schuddeboom right but what kind of birds? How fast? I think if you are shooting a lot of fast birds or a lot of sustained action like birds fighting with each other that the A9 would be a better bet. Otherwise the A7RIV would work. I hope that makes sense.

Thanks Adrian, a really helpful video. I'm not currently a Sony user but I am especially interested in the 200-600 for wildlife and especially birds with BIF being a frequent subject. My current main wildlife lens has a maximum aperture of f4 so with the 200-600 I'd be losing over a stop of light straight away. If you add to that the frequent need for high shutter speeds and lighting conditions that are often less than perfect then high ISO performance becomes important. I really like the idea of being able to crop more with the A7RIV, especially for small birds, but can't help thinking that the better high ISO performance and the speed advantage of the A9II would make it a better fit for me. Does that make sense? Also as a matter of interest what ISO do you feel comfortable going up to with the A9?

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Alan. I’m glad you found the video helpful. I am personally not a fan of noise and most images I take I want to be able potentially print large and I also don’t particularly care to spend much time dealing with the noise in post so I don’t like the A9 even over ISO 5000 but typically shoot it way lower than that. However that’s just me. I agree that if you’re doing a lot of birds and especially small birds and you’re going to use the 200-600 that the A9II would be a better choice for you. WIth the burst rate of the A9II you get a lot more frames to choose from and that can make a big difference between getting the money shot or not.

@alanwood5590

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Adrian, and for taking the time to reply so fully to posted comments. It's appreciated. It's also good to get confirmation of my thinking on this. It's always a compromise and establishing priorities is therefore important. For me higher resolution would be a 'nice to have' , especially for cropping, but I'm currently woking with 20MP and as I never print above A3 I seldom find even that a problem. But like you I want to minimise my time in post dealing with noise so thanks for confirming my feeling that the A9II would be a better fit in that regard. Also, frame rate and AF tracking are really important so thanks again for confirming my thinking in that area too. If it weren't for the improved ergonomics and weather sealing on the RIV/9II I'd be tempted by the now cheaper A9 as I don't personally need all the connectivity improvements of the 9II ntended for the pro sports shooters and with the Olympics in mind. It may seem strange my starting with a lens in mind and then working back to the camera body and also that I'd have to be looking to match a 'budget' zoom with a flagship body. But it's the need for the flexibility of a long zoom and the generally good reviews I've seen for the 200-600 that attracted me in the first place. Thanks again.

Have you shot any with Nikon Lens with the Sony alpha 7 IV ?

You shure have my subscribe. I salute you Sir. From Germany.....

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

PLEASE HELP! I just recently purchased an A7R iv and the Sony 200-600mm and ALL of my photos are blurred and have no detail at all. Seems like the megapixels aren’t even there. Any advice?

Hi Adrian, thank you for responding. I will have a “play” with the 135mm F1.8 when it arrives tomorrow and send you my the results of my comparisons with the 24-105mm f4 and 100-400mm f4.5-5.6. Regards John

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

John Jury I look forward to hearing what you think. just got back from photographing blue morph arctic fox in Iceland and all pretty much all my best shots were with the 135 GM even though I also shot with the 400 GM.

Congratulations A. Chuo. If you only have one option for life photography, what is your choice? A9/A9 2, or A7r4 or a7r3? And when you shoot in raw modo with a7r4, do you use compressed or uncompressed? Thanks

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

There is no simple answer to that question. As I mentioned in the video, I think the A7RIV is great for wildlife but you need to know that it has limitations for shooting very fast action and sustained action. For those situations I would recommend the A9 but you do so knowing you don’t get as much resolution. Everything is a tradeoff. As I mentioned in the video, I switched to compressed raw with the A7RIV.

Hi Adrian. I have been a lifelong Canon user with a 1DX, 100-400, 300 and 500mm primes. I have been cogitating to switch to Sony for some time - amazed at the A7R4, but disappointed by the over the top sensor size - would have preferred A7R3 and enhancements to ergonomics et al. So I was pen poised to purchase the trinity of lenses 16-35GM, much praised, 24-105, 100-400; followed by 200-600. Took me 4 months to come to this conclusion - but now you raise quality issues with zooms! Not many shooters can afford the primes and sheer wait of super telephoto primes. What to do me asks?

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike. Thanks for joining the discussion. There is a lot to say about this so let me give it a try to kickoff the discussion. a) I have, in the past, owned all the zooms you mentioned with the exception of the 200-600. They are all truly excellent lenses. b) Regarding the 200-600: When I made this video and raised the idea that the 200-600 might not be up be the best match for the A7RIV I had a few people disagree including some who claimed they had great results or that they had seen others report great results. Yet I’ve seen plenty of chatter on the forums with people discussing disappointment and issues with missed focus/soft images with the 200-600 and the A7RIV and that the issue has been raised with both Sony general support as well as Sony Pro services. It is hard to say whether there is a genuine bug, user error, or something else. As I believe I said in this video, or perhaps in another one, the 200-600 is the cheapest of the four Sony telephoto lenses yet it has the longest reach (equal to the 600 prime) and the most flexible zoom range. I do believe Sony has priced this lens for the mass market but even then, there has to be some compromise. Is it in image quality? Is it in focusing speed? I don’t know but one of the things that has been hypothesized with the 200-600 and the A7RIV is that it’s the combination of the two. Especially since people have reported great results with the A7RIV and other lenses as well as with the A9 and the 200-600. We know that the 200-600 focusing motors are undoubtedly slower than the super fast ones on the 400 and 600 primes. We also know that the A7RIV calculates focusing at 20 times per second vs the 60 times per second that the A9 (and A9II) do. So it’s possible that if you are bursting and the subject is moving a lot, that expecting 10 frames per second on the A7RIV to all be sharp with the 200-600 may be unreasonable. I think we also have to consider that with the additional resolution we may look at some images and deem them “not acceptably sharp” whereas we might have be fine with them if they had been taken at a lower resolution. c) One of the problems with talking about sharpness and image quality is that it is somewhat subjective and everyone has different tolerances and different requirements. Some people are shooting crazy action in really demanding conditions such as freezing cold or low light and others are shooting slower or mostly static subjects with plenty of light, etc. Some people are pixel peeping and printing at large scale and others are just sharing little images on social media. So I really think the only way to know if it meets your needs is to try it. I would expect no issues with the 16-35, 24-105 and 100-400. It’s the 200-600 that concerns me. d) Regarding primes vs zooms. I’m not saying that it’s a waste to buy the A7RIV and use it with zooms. The overall MTF of the system is a combination of the lens MTF and the camera MTF so even if one of the zooms can’t resolve detail as well as one of the primes, having a higher resolution sensor is still beneficial. You’re just not going to get as much benefit as you could if you were using primes so it’s degrees that we’re talking about and not all or nothing. We should also remember that everything is relative to where you are coming from. You’ll be coming from a 20 MP system to a 61 MP system. That’s a huge jump and you’ll be amazed at the additional detail and croppability but of course you’ll also become very aware of the price you pay for it in terms of noise at higher ISOs. I hope some of that helps. My recommendation is you should go ahead with your purchase and try everything out or even rent some parts of it if you think that’s necessary. I’ll be very interested to hear your findings.

Hi Adrian, what think you about the combo A6600 with 200-600? Have a nice day.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Adrian. I have tried various A6000 cameras including most recently the A6500 and A6400. I’d say that my biggest problem with them is the ergonomics. Especially for me personally as I shoot fully manual, not having a full set of dials with one on the front, one on the back, plus a control wheel, is a big problem. I’m also a little disappointed that Sony has not increased the resolution on these cameras as both Fuji and Canon have APS-C sensors with 26 or 32 MP. I would personally prefer to use one of the full-frame cameras and have better image quality. However that’s just what suits my shooting style. If you really need more reach and you can deal with the ergonomics of the smaller cameras, the A6600 is certainly a very capable camera for the money and it should work very well with the 200-600.

What advantage is there shooting in crop mode instead of the 1.4x or 2x at full 61mp? I have found the 600GM with 2x produces images inditiquishable from shooting it bare? Just cursious.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Terry. The main advantages are that you don’t have to deal with putting the teleconverter on and taking it off and that your exposure doesn’t change. There are plenty of times when there is no time to put the teleconverter on or that you don’t want to put it on and risk getting dust, snow, or rain between elements. When shooting in low light, having to double or quadruple ISO (or make other appropriate changes) can be substantial. There are also times with you might put a teleconverter on and then an animal appears closer and now you’re stuck in too tight. It all depends a lot on the situation including the available light.

Hi Adrian! I shoot mostly sports but recently picked up a 200-600 to get into wildlife. What do you think is the better combo? A7R4 with a 400mm 2.8 with 1.4x teleconverter or A9ii with 200-600 or some match of those two. I want to shoot mostly birds, in flight or not in flight.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Erik McKay the first thing to say is that it is not entirely clear whether the 200-600 and the A7RIV function well together. Apart from the reasons I gave in this video for why I personally think the A7RIV is best suited to a prime, there are some people who are having focusing issues with the A7RIV and the 200-600 and they have reported the issues to Sony. I can’t tell whether there really is an issue that needs addressing by Sony. There doesn’t appear to be any issues with the A9 and the 200-600. Now if we concentrate just on A7RIV + 400 + 1.4x vs A9II + 200-600, personally for me, there’s very few situations where I would choose the zoom over the prime and if I did it to get the extra 40mm or the flexibility of the zoom, I know I’d be paying a pretty high price for it with a lens that has slower focusing motors, lesser image quality, and smaller apertures. Regarding the A7RIV vs the A9II (and I have both of them myself) for wildlife I personally don’t go to the A9II unless I absolutely have to and as I mentioned in this video, that’s only if the action is very fast or very sustained (or both). So I think you need to look at your BIF situation and think about what the worst case is there. For example I’ve shot a lot of slower and bigger birds in flight with the A7RIV and I was happy with the results in terms of both focusing ability and the slower frame rate which meant I had less frames to choose from and the possibility I might have missed capturing something that only happened during the very briefest moment of time. However when I was shooting some kingfishers that were diving to fish, I went straight to my A9 (the last time I did that I hadn’t yet upgraded to the A9II) because I knew I needed that speed and I knew the A7RIV wouldn’t be able to cut it. I’m going on a trip this week to photograph arctic foxes and horses and I’m bringing just my two A7RIVs and leaving the A9II behind. However in late spring I’ll be photographing some much faster subjects and I would not want to do that without the A9II.

Adrian Cho. Good video; thanks a lot. Following 6 weeks of deliberation I part exchanged my A9 and A7III for an A7R4 and have not regretted doing so for a moment. I photograph wildlife exclusively and for me, the A7R4 is the best wildlife camera I have ever owned. I agree with everything you point you raised, though I am more than happy with the performance of my 200 - 600mm when used with the A7R4. I will be purchsing a 100 - 400mm G Master next year (it will replace the one I sold in order to purchase my 200 - 600mm prior to the A7R4 being announced). Sony rate the 135mm G Master, 400mm and 600mm as outstanding when used with the A7R4: and rate the 100 - 400mm and 200 - 600mm as excellent. Excellent is good enough for me. For the first time in 30 years I have only one camera, but if I decide I need another I am certain it will be a second A7R4, even though the A9II is very tempting. Furthest distance AnimalEyeAf has worked for me is a massive 48 metres, where it locked onto the eye of a fox, even though it was partially obscured by a bush. Not bad.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Pete, thanks for watching. It's great to hear about the success you've had with the A7RIV and especially with the 200-600!

@nrocha2466

4 жыл бұрын

why are you considering repurchasing the 100400GM when you have the 200600G? i am curious - thanks

You mentioned eye problems. My eyes are not great and I've been using a Meike MK-VF2 LCD monitor viewer on my A7RIV and it's much better than the viewfinder. It lets me see the LCD monitor at 3X magnification while excluding extraneous light with a huge eyecup. It is easy to attach and detach. No longer available on Amazon or B&H because of stupid trade war but available on Ebay and Ali Express. .

Just came back from shooting for the first time wildlife with the Sony R74 using the 100-400GM and 200-600. You are so right about the ISO and zoom lens. A bit of a disappointment in a way but I guess I’m asking for the laws of physics to change for me 😀. I used my old R73 and got the same results more or less. I was shooting European Bee eaters. In my case I need to pick better hours get closer with a hideout or pay 12000 for a 600GM. Probable will try the first 2 first. I will say I did not notice more “image” to crop with the bigger sensor. From 30 m using 600 zoom the birds still were to small relatively and with the partial shade just unsharp.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Shaul, of course it is all very subjective but I really strongly believe you'll get the most from that camera through primes. It doesn't mean you can't get great images from it using zooms bit you are more impacted by things like low light and have to respond accordingly. Even though I'm shooting with primes I still have to be careful and will often move to wider angles with bigger apertures as the light drops. I'm going to do a follow-up video about this camera soon now that I've shot with two of them for about nine months.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Shaul, one thing I think you need to consider is whether, with the higher resolution sensor, you need to increase your shutter speeds a bit.

@sfiron

4 жыл бұрын

Totally. It’s just so expensive and heavy(the 600 and 400)...one day 🤪

I own a A7R iv and I endorse this review as very accurate. I photograph birds mainly and found myself nodding and agreeing with everything he said. But as tricky as it is with zoom lens it can be done it's just easier with primes and the review casts much more of a bleak opinion of this imo if your an amateur like me think you will be pleased more times than your disappointed.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and chiming in. I agree you can you get some great results with zooms and the A7RIV. It just depends a lot on the conditions. I made another video in which I talked about using the A7RIV in really tough shooting conditions and in those conditions even with primes the camera struggled a bit while I also saw someone shooting alongside me with the A7RIV and zooms and it was even harder.

Thank you for this thoughtful video. Someone asked a similar question, but I want to confirm my understanding. I am a hobbyist so not doing photography for $... but I really enjoy working with higher end gear and somehow my wife lets me buy some of it... I mostly have been shooting birds when I get some time off and take a walk in local nature preserves or even sitting in my yard near my bird feeders. I’ve been using a Nikon D500 with the amazing 500PF lens. I’ve been intrigued by the Sony full frame bodies since the A9, but wanted to hold off until the next generation. Now that the A9RIV and the A9ii are here, I feel like it’s time to give it a shot. I think realistically I’ll likely have to get the 200-600 lens, since I can’t justify the 600 F4 (though I’d love it for the little birds) and the primes you mention probably dont have enough reach (I’m used to the 500 PF on a crop body, which is 750 equivalent and I’m often still cropping). I find in the woods, especially early morning, that there’s not a ton of light (but lots of bird activity) so I expect I’m going to run into higher ISO situations often, especially if I’m trying to stop motion on little birds. Given all this and what you’ve explained, it seems that the smartest solution for me and this type of photography is A9/A9ii with the 200-600. The fast autofocus and deep buffer (and no blackout viewfinder) excites me for this, but I am a bit disappointed that I won’t have he amazing crop-ability and detail of the high res sensor of A7RIV. Does this trade off situation mean that maybe it’s not time to transition to sony for me given my needs and limitations (I really can’t justify buying both sony bodies, and to have the zoom for the A9 and some primes for the A7, though that would be the ultimate!). It’s making me wonder if I should just move to a Nikon D850 and use that with my 500PF lens for a couple more years while I wait for a higher resolution A9iii or something like that. Really appreciate your thoughts, and thanks again for a great video on the latest bodies!

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Dan. Thanks for watching. There are many people who do seem to be using the 200-600 with the A7RIV and are happy with the results. The problem is when we talk about tolerance for noise and expectations for sharpness, we all have different ideas. Regarding, whether you should move to Sony and if so, what setup... I think it depends a lot on what type of shooter you are and what you value the most. It is a tough decision because the 500PF does somewhat negate one of the advantages of mirrorless which is small size and weight. If you’re happy with the 500PF image quality then any telephoto lens in the Sony lineup will be a step backwards in terms of size and weight. Also, since you’re already using a prime now, going to a zoom like the 200-600 is also a big move. Sure you gain more compositional flexibility but you lose a stop and a half of light. I do agree that just going to a D850 with the 500PF is a possible good option for you if you’re OK investing further in Nikon. If you were to make the move to Sony I do tend to think you would be happiest with the A9/A9II. By the way, I have an A9II now and will do a video on it at some stage but overall it’s not dramatically better than the A9 and especially if you were able to find a deeply discounted A9 or would be willing to buy one used, the A9 plus the very affordable 200-600 could be a good move. Alternatively, you could rent some of the Sony gear to see what you think and find out what issues might be most applicable to you. You could even rent the A7RIV because, to be clear, you can shoot BIF with it and some are definitely doing it with the 200-600 and are happy. However, as I mentioned in this video, there are definitely some considerations with the buffer. However I think if you tried the A9/A9II with all that it offers with its shutter and EVF capabilities and you would be amazed. It is a unique camera in that respect with nothing else out there like it. I hope that helps. I’d love to hear hear how things go!

@Dan-xp8lh

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the detailed and thoughtful reply! I think I will take your advice and rent - I’m taking a trip over New Years so maybe I’ll do the A9 or A7RIV and see how it feels. If I wanted to use a prime for ultimate image quality with the A7RIV - and I want to do small birds (actually mostly they’re perched or flitting around near their perch, so I imagine the autofocus/tracking of A7RIV would be fine for the majority) is the gigantic and $$ 600 F4 my only option? Or do you think that the 400 2.8 plus the resolution for cropping would enable me to do small birds? Also you had mentioned that the A7RIV is revealing flaws in the 400 2.8 so.... that’s why I feel a little stuck.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Dan it sounds to me like the 600 would be best for you since you’re already cropping a bit now with the 500. Alternatively you go with the 400 and shoot a lot with the 1.4x teleconverter or crop a lot.

@Dan-xp8lh

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography Sorry if I missed this but if I went nuts and got the 600 f4..... do you think that lens resolves enough for the 7RIV sensor, and would this affect the advice to go with A9?

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Dan, I believe the 600 will definitely deliver the goods. Sony’s goal with all GM lenses is supposed to be that no expense is spared in terms of image quality. Certainly with at least the later GM lenses, they are all supposed to be designed with future 100 MP sensors in mind. By the way, I should also mention going back to a previous comment that I don’t believe I ever said the A7RIV has revealed flaws in the 400 f2.8, only that with the A7RIV I’ve seen how much sharper the 135 GM is. I’ll be interested to see what you think after getting your hands on some gear. Despite what some might think, I’m not a Sony fanboy and I try to look at all gear very objectively. They’re all just tools to help us. Specs, resolution, and sharpness aside, I suspect you’ll find the shooting experience with the A9 or A9II with it’s tracking, animal Eye AF, silent shooting, and high frame rates, to be pretty compelling.

Does the buffer clear up sooner in the crop mode? if yes then how soon? number of seconds? What's the burst rate in crop mode when shooting uncompressed raw? and how many total shots can i get in crop mode uncompressed raw before the buffer fills up?(asking this because i can manage my shutter action and not shoot unnecessarily to fill it up) Please try to provide me with these details as i am looking forward to get one for myself.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Syed, sorry about the late reply on this. I haven't had a chance to figure out those numbers but for sure the buffer clears faster in crop mode. That's one of the reasons you might want to shoot in crop mode.

Just a couple of points. If you use compressed raw it does lower the dynamic range which can in turn adversly affect the noise as well. (More noise if you raise the exposure or shadows when editing). Concerning the noise, I was not going to upgrade and continue with the r iii because of noise concerns. But when I started using Topaz de noise AI I realized using that literally gave about another 2 stops of performance on whatever camera. I'm getting much cleaner images on my A7 riv with topaz than what I was used to on the A7 riii using more conventional noise reduction. And not just a bit cleaner either. I'm not one to get hyped up over things easily but Topaz noise reduction is a very significant product in the general state of digital photography. Hope this is helpful and doesnt sound too much like an ad!

@markrigg6623

4 жыл бұрын

You do get an increase in detail using Sonys current zooms when you go to a higher resolution sensor. You wont get as good as a prime but its not correct to say lense limitations act like some kind of brick wall to image quality improvement with a higher res sensor. So dont just stick to your A7riii just because your limited to good quality zooms. A better sensor behind a halfway decent lens will always show some improvement. It would be a very small market for t he A7riv if this was not the case. Luckily the camera manufacturers know how physics works.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Mark, thanks for chiming in. I have had some good results with Topaz Denoise too. I just hate having to deal with another step in the workflow.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

mark rigg regarding the primes vs zooms, I agree it’s not a brick wall. The MTF of the whole camera and lens setup will be improved if just the MTF of the sensor is improved. However I think in adverse conditions such as low light, the limitations of zooms are more obvious with the higher resolutions. I’ve seen people get great results with the A7RIV and zooms in good conditions but I’ve also shot alongside other A7RIV users and seen them get pretty poor results in some tough conditions due to slower focusing speed and with noise because of the smaller apertures.

@markrigg6623

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography Yeah what you say about apertures and noise is fair enough. I just dont think people should be too put off by the limitations of modern zooms. Ive got the 100-400 GM as well as the 200 - 600. The 100 - 400 is the sharpest zoom ive ever used and it renders almost like a macro lense. The 200- 600 amazingly seems just as good which I was not expecting. Its not sour grapes because I cant afford a big prime and this time next year I should be the proud owner of the 600mm f4! Thanx for the reply.

Excellent, having just bought a A7riv + 200-600 i was real disappointed, changed the lens to a 100-400 and results much better, but no where near as good as my Nikon D850 +500pf, looks like camera needs the prime lens to get best out of it ,, Nice to have a video which explains things clearly, thank you

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I’m glad you found it helpful. I think the 100-400 is definitely a better match than the 200-600 but yeah I think primes are the way to. If you can do that you can get stellar results from the camera. All the best!

@STEVEukIDIOT

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography Yes i have Primes for my Nikon D850 , just the sony prime are lot money

Have you tried the 70-200 f2.8 with the a7riv yet? I am currently using the 200-600 and the 100-400 and see exactly what you are describing. It sounds like you prefer the 400 2.8 over the 600 f4. Any issues with the 600 or is just that you can keep your iso down on the 400? Thanks as always for another great video!

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for watching. Unfortunately I don't have the 70-200 anymore although I had it in the past. I can't even guess how it might fare in terms of resolving detail compared to the 100-400 or the 200-600. Obviously you could keep the ISO lower with it. I personally prefer the 400 2.8 over the 600 for many reasons. For one thing I don't want to get stuck at 600 and the lens is harder to carry and travel with. I really like having f2.8 for both low light and subject isolation. It's just the way I shoot. If I need more reach I can crop and even use a teleconverter if really necessary. However I shoot mostly mammals and sometimes some larger birds. I can totally understand how those shooting primarily birds and especially small birds might prefer the 600. Let me know if you try the 70-200. I'd be interested to hear how it goes.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

I'm interested to know more about what you are seeing. Is it that images are not sharp? Is it the noise? What are you comparing it to?

@12shawnm

4 жыл бұрын

Adrian Cho Photography yes, mainly the noise.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Gotcha. What ISOs are you typically shooting at? I have found some instances with the A7RIV where I shot at slightly higher like ISO 4000 and the images are ok. Not great but still printable especially after doing some additional post processing. However this is not something I want to have to deal with all the time.

@12shawnm

4 жыл бұрын

Adrian Cho Photography the early morning and late evening is where is shows up the most for obvious reasons, but i think with the 400 2.8 I will be able to gain the extra light that i need. The f6.3 is just not enough for those times of the day. I would say that i am new to photography. I have been shooting wildlife for about 1 1/2 yrs. i have had the opportunity to take some awesome trips in target rich environments , so i am getting some time behind the lenses. Not to mention with KZread and great friends who have been doing it for a long time my learning curve has been speed up. I had not thought of the 135 MG. I think i will add that to the mix. Thanks again for all your help. If you want to see some of my images with a7riv i can send you a link to my instagram page. Don’t want to just put it out without your permission. Thanks again.

Hi..now the A9ii has been out for a time...would you take the A9ii or A4 for safari . If you only had one camera...ps I love your work !

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hey John. Thanks for watching. I have taken both cameras to Africa and I’d say if I could only take one it would definitely be the A7RIV. There is little need for the faster focus, faster burst, and silent shutter of the A9 or A9II on most safaris. In return, the additional resolution and dynamic range of the RIV is of great value. Sure, there may be times if you are shooting very fast birds or cheetahs running, but that doesn’t happen very often compared to the multitude of other opportunities which the RIV can handle with ease. The other way in which the A9II beats the A7RIV is in lower exposures due to its lower resolution and lower noise. Although there are times in Africa early in the morning and late in the day when this might be an issue, most of the time there’s an incredible amount of light and the A7RIV has plenty to work with, even if you’re shooting with a smaller-aperture zoom.

@Hsamboss9

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography many thanks really appreciate this

@Hsamboss9

4 жыл бұрын

Can I be cheeky and ask one more piece of advice ...I cant reach the 400mm prime in terms of price...in this case for safari and wildlife..will the 7riv paird with a zoom say the 200mm to 600mm be good ....I know there mixed reviews at present....or do you go for the A9II instead...I forgot to add the lense bit in the first question😁 I love the 135mm but not sure it can be my prime (excuse the pun) lense

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi John. Sorry I somehow missed this. The question you're asking is one that a lot of people ask. It's complicated by the fact that there are reports of issues with the A7RIV and the 200-600 and I know Sony is investigating these. However it's not clear to me whether there really is a problem as many other people have that combination and that includes people who are very capable photographers and experienced Sony users. Even this issue aside, I personally still believe that the best way to get the most out of the A7RIV is with primes although I know there are plenty who shoot with zooms and are happy. Of course it depends a lot on what kind of exposures you are shooting. The A9II is definitely preferred for more action. I personally don't shoot a lot of really fast or sustained action so I rarely use my A9II. What kinds of subjects are you shooting? Did you already make a purchase?

Great video and lots of good info, but you really should not imply that crop mode is a substitute for, or equivalent tom, using a teleconverter. In crop mode, the subject looks larger/closer in the viewfinder, but you aren't getting any extra magnification in your image ... that is, the subject is the same size in pixels whether you shoot crop mode or full-frame mode ... the image is simply cropped. With a TC, you actually get more magnification ... more pixels on your subject.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and adding the clarity. Yes you're correct. You are definitely losing pixels if you crop. On the other hand you are losing light if you use the teleconverter and you have to deal with the hassles of putting it on and taking it off, potentially in a dusty, snowy, or rainy environment, so it's a tradeoff.

@Kallio1971

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography I agree about the hassle of putting it on and taking off. About the light though, a 1.4x is roughly the same effect and you lose a stop of light. Is that worse than using only a small portion of the sensor? Which actually results in less noise? With a TC you have to increase ISO but with crop mode you're magnifying noise.

Awesome upload champ. It helped........and then it didn't hahaha. Still trying to decide weather to grab another a7r3 or go for variety and add an a7r4.

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Ryan. Thanks for watching. If you want to chat further about the A7RIV, feel free to jump on over to my Discord server: clickon.link/wildlifephototalk and I’ll be happy to try to help if I can. There’s also plenty of other shooters there who have experience with both of these cameras.

I have this camera and I wish I hadn’t bought it because it lacks focus bracketing. All the other major brands have this feature in their mirrorless cameras. How about updating the software Sony?

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah this is missing from all Sony cameras. I am not sure when they might add it. To be honest I don't see it asked for very often but I know it can be handy. I've just done it manually when I had to do it but I haven't had to do it very often.

Bought this camera today along with the 200-600 lens..AWESOME...but Lightroom doesn’t allow upload????HELLLLP

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Diggin the blues with a parrot which Lightroom? Lightroom Mobile on the iPad? Lightroom CC on desktop? Lightroom Classic on desktop? What exactly happens?

surely if you resize the A7r4 images to the same size as the r3, the lens issues will be identical?

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

I think you could say that roughly yes that would be the case. I think in practice it depends on how the resizing happens. For example, downsampling from a higher resolution using some method of interpolation can produce an image that looks better including appearing to have more detail. That’s why on some cameras, especially for video, they boast of say “6K downsampled to 4K” or “4K downsampled to HD” as opposed to just that lower resolution to begin with.

Big megapixels. What type of computer do u need to load those big files??

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

I'm actually mostly using an iPad Pro (running Lightroom Mobile) for my editing nowadays and it handles the files fine. Thanks for watching!

How to deal with the problem of dust accumulation n the sensor

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Shirish. Not such a big deal. I rarely change lenses and if I do I have a blower with me and also carry a cleaning kit if necessary.

Very good video, I love how you went in depth with this discussion. Something I'd love to know is how much better the A9ii will be not for AF but actual image quality. Having owned the A7Riii now for close to a year and borrowing the A9i and also the A7iii I found the A9 to have the worst image quality out of the bunch. Less ability to recover shadows than the other 2 cameras. I've strongly considered the A9ii as my next camera but wonder if it may be wiser to wait and see what the A7IV will offer when it comes out. My biggest lens is the 100-400 GM along with the 1.4TC and I've steered clear of the A7RIV due to poor low light performance, really not willing to take that hit. I just wish my A7Riii was a bit better shooting birds in flight against high contrast backgrounds.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

As far as I can tell, there is no perceptible improvement in image quality in the raw files between the A9 and the A9II and I don’t believe Sony ever claimed there was. I think the idea, or perhaps I should say the wish by some, that there was an improvement might have been started by Patrick Murphy-Racey who stated that he thought there was improvement but I am wondering if he was just looking at the SOOC JPEGs which is something that sports shooters care about but most others do not. Someone else claimed they saw improvements in the raw files but at least one person has done a comparison test between the raw files from the A9 and A9II, and made the test files available, and there didn’t seem to be any difference at all. So right now I don’t believe there is much, if any, improvement in the raw files. As for the image quality of the A9, the DXOMark benched the A7RIII (and the A7RIV) as having a stop more dynamic range than the A9. I understand your predicament. Before I moved to the A7RIV I used mostly the A7RIII and sometimes I used the A9. Now with the A7RIV I am using the A9 even less. However I’m shooting with primes so the noise is not so much of an issue for me.

@robwasnj

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography Hey a serious thanks for the in depth reply. I did see Patrick's take on it as well as others stating how much better the A9ii but as you mentioned I wouldn't be surprised if they were looking at SOOC jpegs and not the RAW files which, for me I don't care much about. What it comes down to is there is no perfect camera for wildlife. I'm still going through your videos, so much useful information in them. I did note you mentioned the 400 prime isn't as sharp at the 135 (which I've used and was amazed by). I have wondered how the 600mm prime stacks up compared to the 400 or even the 400 with the 1.4TC. I must say I like the image quality out of my 100-400 more than what I've seen using the 200-600 or even the 70-200, maybe I just have a good copy. In many ways I really wish sony had stuck with less megapixels but upgraded the AF system and ergonomics of the A7R3, for still subjects I really enjoy the camera. For many amateurs the long primes are out of reach financially and the R4 doesn't seem ideal with slower lenses for sure.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

robwas to be honest I shouldn’t have straightout said the 135 is sharper than the 400 because I’ve never actually done a direct comparison and even when I am using them to shoot the same subject, they are at totally different distances and one is a lot harder to stabilise than the other. If you look at Sony’s MTF charts for the 135 and the 400, at least up to 30 lp/mm the 400 is better. However it’s not clear what happens after that. If you look at the Lensrentals MTF tests on the 135, it is impressive up to 50 lp/mm. The most recent Lensrentals tests (www.lensrentals.com/blog/2019/10/more-ultra-high-resolution-mtf-experiments/ ) show that just because one lens is sharper than another at one level of detail it doesn’t necessarily apply at higher levels of detail. I only know that for the shots I’ve taken the 135 is astounding and is a benchmark for me. Unfortunately I’ve not seen the 600 but I expect it’s on par with the 400. The 70-200 f2.8 sadly is not very good at all and doesn’t even stack up well against other 70-200s on other systems. You’re absolutely right that there’s no perfect camera and we all have different requirements. We also all have different ideas of what is sharp and what is noisy. Regarding the A9II quality, if you go to this thread www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1617592/4 and skip to p. 5 #11 you’ll see some discussion about RAW comparison. This is one data point.

Adrian excellent discussion, thank you. Sony A7R iv with 24-105mm, 100-400mm and 135mm arriving tomorrow. Do you think Sony can improve high ISO performance with firmware upgrade?

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hi John. Thanks for watching. I don't think they cannot except perhaps in JPG if they want to try but I doubt they will. I'm interested in hearing about your findings with the noise especially when you shoot with the 135 vs the zooms.

You have said the A7R4 produces more noise in high ISO’s when using 200-600 zoom is that the case with the A9?

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

No it isn't because the A9 has a lower pixel density (and hence bigger photosites that collect more light) so you can get cleaner images. The greater noise you get with the A7RIV is the result of the higher resolution.

@nrocha2466

4 жыл бұрын

ive compared my A7RM3 Raw files at similar high ISOs to my A7RIV and i do not agree that there is more noise at all. Keep in mind there is more detail, so signal noise may be slightly more visible. Also - just use Topaz Denoise AI to reduce noise while maintaining details - its incredible and will help you close the gap compared to faster lenses. Please see MARC ALHADEFF latest lens tests here: sonyalpha.blog/2019/11/10/which-lenses-to-maximise-the-potential-of-the-sony-a7riv/ And yes the 200600G is rated excellent level on the A7RIV. its even better in center vs. 100400GM! (less so in corners which i care less about for wildlife)

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

@@nrocha2466 it's great if you're happy with the noise with the A7RIV. I feel there are definitely cases where both at the pixel level and image level the noise is more noticeable compared to the A7RIII but this is only at higher ISOs and generally I stay away from those. Topaz Denoise AI is an option but personally it's not something I want to be dealing with on a regular basis but it's great to have it as an option if there's an amazing image that really needs cleaning up.

Is the ISO on the a7r IV really so "bad"? I dont know if i should buy the A9 or the a7r IV. Wildlife is the most fun part and my "love" but im also filming, taking landscapes, portriats etc. The resolution of the a7r IV is so nice to crop in and its nice for product shots and landscape but im also afraid of the ISO noise. You see my point ? I think that the a7r IV is mor a allrounder. Really nice video. If been waiting for such a review for a bit. But because of the review im not sure :D Well done! ( Sorry for my bad English. Im from Germany ^^ ) Have a nice day!

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

It's not that it is so bad but it is definitely worse than the A7RIII. Lots of other people have done direct comparisons to show that and it is what one would expect given the physics and the different gain structure. Only you can be the judge of whether it is acceptable for you given what you shoot. Can you rent or borrow to try it? As I mentioned, the lenses you shoot with will be a factor since some lenses will force you to go higher and then of course what light you have and shutter speeds you need are also a factor. Someone said they are fine with ISO6400 on this camera. I'm personally not. I personally favour the A7RIV over the A9 for what I do but if you do a lot of fast or sustained action you may miss critical frames.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Unless you're photographing lots of really fast birds, like kingfishers, hummingbirds, etc. or other very fast animals, or you're trying to capture long sequences of action like some cheetahs or a pack of wild dogs hunting some prey, I'm guessing the A7RIV will do fine for you. What lenses are you shooting with?

@jannes7926

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography OK. Thanks! Right now im shooting with Sigma 150-600 f5.6-6.3. With the Sony a7r iv i would buy the 200-600. For Wildlife the faster focus is better but i think the IV is better as an Allrounder. Sometimes im shooting fast birds but is this the reson to buy the a9? I dont know...

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Zaddel I think it depends how much you’re shooting fast birds. I do it sometimes but not that often and the A9 typically will give me more frames to choose from with different wing positions. With only half the burst speed, the A7RIV will give you, in theory, only half of the possible frames. Worst case: If a kingfisher was on a branch near the surface of the water and dived into the water and the A9 was able capture just one frame, the A7RIV might not be able to capture any frames at all! I recommend you try the A7RIV since I believe it will work for most of your cases. As to the 200-600, as I pointed out in the video, I’ve not tried it with the A7RIV myself so I can’t say for sure how good it is. I’ve seen some people say they were disappointed with the results and others who seem to be happy. There are so many variables including technique that come into play. Good luck with your decision. I’d love to hear how it goes and to see some of the images you manage to get with the A7RIV.

@jannes7926

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography Thanks a lot! I want to to to Norway the next Summer. I think there will be some good Pictures. Let's see!

i too own the 135GM... it will spoil you and what you believe is sharp. That said, i still use and love my 200600 on my A7RIV and can achieve excellent sharpness with proper technique and decent light

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it definitely sets the bar for sharpness and speed. Thanks for watching and chiming in.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

I think if you have a variable aperture zoom that it’s a great match to also have a big aperture shorter lens. That’s why, even though my long lens is the 400 f2.8, I also usually bring along the 135 f1.8 and 24 f1.4. The wider I go, the more light I get and that’s great for when the low drops. It pushes me to get different shots with shorter focal lengths.

@nrocha2466

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography i agree. good info!

I agree with the higher ISO issue. This is my only disappointment with the camera. My Nikon D500 is superior when shooting at higher ISO's and cost $1500.. The color quality on A7R4 is excellent. Beautiful and deep color. But I have some regrets about buying this camera because of the ISO issue.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it's the price you pay for the resolution. This is why I think it's best used with prime unless you can shoot in lots of light all the time.

The first honest review I has seen about the A7Riv with the 200-600 lens. I understand the price point on this lens and you can't expect the same results as a 12k lens HOWEVER in the end the result should be at least as good as other brand lenses in that price range. Also the serious problems people are reporting on the lens when used with the a7riv does not seem to effect all the lenses. I believe there is either a technical issue or a large batch of bad lenses. Update does nothing for the poor quality images. And no I am not talking about BIF. The lens is soft for many uses and with the exact same setting other have usable images. I am certain Sony is aware and just doesn't care. The problems don't seem to effect the 100-400GM.

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. When I first made this review it was not long after the 200-600 had come out and I don’t believe the problems with it and the A7RIV were very well known. I agree the lens with this camera should not have the problems it appears to have. It’s unfortunate that this problem doesn’t seem to have been fixed. FYI, I’ll be making a “twelve months later” video about the A7RIV soon. Stay safe!

Just wanted to say Hello and hope all is well.

Suprised you are not using the 600GM and a wildlife shooter why is that?

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Terry, there are many reasons. Firstly I like to shoot wide open a lot and love f2.8 for that. There are magic things I can do with that aperture. Also, I shoot a lot in low light. You might think the difference between f2.8 and f4 is just one stop but that can mean the difference between say 1/1000 and 1/500 or ISO 3200 and ISO 6400. Finally, I like to try to get closer where possible and 600 GM is often just way too tight. 400 just works great for me. I would find 600 too limiting and the lens itself is also slightly longer and heavier which is a pain for traveling. It’s just a style thing. Of course there are definitely times when wildlife is really far away or really small and a 600, especially with a 2x, is great.

I really want this camera but the iso performance is holding Me back, I have the A7III now. I often push the iso to 6400 on count of bad light and it does well, I use the 100-400gm, you saying you would not go above 1600 iso really has Me worried. I'm guessing the A9II would be a better fit for Me but man I would love to have all them pixels!

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Warren. I think the best thing really is to rent one and try it for yourself. Also, take a look at Dustin Abbott’s sensor wars video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/faSrxtVvncfNlcY.html. We all have different tolerances for noise and it also depends somewhat on what’s in the image. Some people think I’ve overstated the issue but others agree with me about it. It’s certainly a fact that it is worse than other Sony full-frame cameras. That can’t be a surprise with the greater pixel density not to mention the change in the dual gain base ISO points. The question is how much worse is it? Yes it’s true that I try not to go above about 1600 or 2000 but I have gone above it numerous times and I know if I’ve got a great image that needs saving I can spend some time with tools such as Topaz.

@Buttercorn932

4 жыл бұрын

I just watched the video you linked and to be honest it did not look that bad even at 6400! Dang tough decision between A7RIV and the A9II, big purchase for Me and I want to get it right!

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

warren griffin if you don’t think the noise is an issue then it’s really mostly a matter of speed. As I said in this video, you can use the A7RIV for a lot of things including some BIF. However, there are definitely some times, with really fast, or really erratically moving subjects, or with a lot of sustained action, where you need the speed of the A9 or A9II.

@Buttercorn932

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianChoPhotography Do you thing the AF is better then the A7III? People say it is, if so I would go for the RIV because I thought the A7III was pretty good.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

warren griffin I can’t speak for the A7III but I did have the A7RIII and for sure the AF is better in the A7RIV. You see this mostly in the tracking modes. I don’t think it’s a huge amount though. Maybe 15% better IMHO but that’s a very rough estimate. This is to be expected as, other improvements aside, it does have more phase-detect AF points and greater coverage of the sensor than the A7RIII.

And how you handle gps topic: I do not come along with the image edge app in order to get reliable gps data to the images Thanks again for your great videos. Andreas C. (Svalbard Tour)

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I can’t help you with this one as I actually don’t want the GPS data in any of my images!

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Andreas, have you looked at something like this? www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/550564-REG/Sony_GPS_CS1KASP_GPS_CS1KASP_GPS_Unit.html

The buffer depth & clearing speed is not the real benefit to APS-C. Bonuses of course, and not insignificant, but the real reason to use APS-C is to *max out FPS* in those situations you're going to be cropping in on later anyway. While Sony likes to claim 10 FPS for the camera, and you repeat that claim here (and I really wish people would stop doing that) -- it doesn't actually get 10FPS in the real world. With manual focus? Perhaps. When using real-time tracking or EyeAF *and* driving the AF on the lens? Not a chance. Tested it myself several times. The penalty is that it actually performs at between 7 and 8 fps (give or take)... but when you punch down to APS-C mode you'll gain usually at least half an FPS if not a full 1FPS faster frame rate. It may not seem like much, but it might make the difference in whether you get that "money shot" or not. When you burst that high having the buffer clear 3x faster is just the icing on that cake. *EDIT* Oh and my only complaint about your video is you need to normalize your audio levels - please. When I have the video at a volume to hear you speak and your bumper music kicks in a *BLAST OUT SPEAKER* level it's annoying. Gotta watch out for that. :p

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the experiential observations. I think it depends how and what you shoot. Personally for the things I shoot it’s not that often that the frame rate is really an issue and when it is I often know I have to go to the A9 to have the better chance of getting the “money shot.” With most animals I’m mostly just doing short bursts but when I have to do them repeatedly, without a decent break in between, the buffer can become an issue. For example recently I had 19 wild dogs chasing an impala. As they all ran past in sequence, I only needed to keep doing short bursts but with so many of them coming one after the other, the buffer was a big issue.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

Yes you're right the intro music is a bit hot. Thanks for the reminder.

Good review until 12 min when crop mode was discussed. All crop mode does is remove edge pixels from the FF image. It does not put more pixels on subject and this is not the same as using a teleconverter. This is such a common misconception out there and leads people to make inappropriate decisions about what lenses to buy. If you are unconvinced, consider two images of, say, a bird, one in normal FF mode and one in crop mode. Look at them both at 100% in Lr and the bird will look identical. What is missing in the crop mode image is the edge pixels, that's all it does.

@AdrianChoPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

John, thanks for watching and helping to clarify. I agree the downsides of crop mode could have been better pointed out. I assumed most people know them as 26 MP is obviously less than 61 MP. The benefits, as I mentioned, are that you can fit more in the buffer, the buffer clears faster, you can more clearly see details to help you shoot and focus, and animal eye AF will sometimes work better because the eye is bigger in the frame. If those benefits aren't of use then you might as well crop in post. Regarding crop mode vs teleconverter the benefit is in not having to muck around and install and remove the teleconverter. As you point out, you're definitely losing pixels which is why it's called "crop mode."

yeah. this is the best rewiev i've seen so far.!!!! not like all this bullshit you find all the time on YT,. Thank you a lot

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and I'm glad it was helpful. I'm actually going to release a "A7RIV for wildlife photography twelve months later" video soon.

That's what I found out (maybe will be helpful) Sony a7R IV (uncompressed RAW + extrafine JPEG) 1) Slot 1 Sony Tough G 300, 128GB; Slot 2 Sony G 300, 128GB photos in buffer until full: 34; buffer empties in 18 sec 2) Slot 1 Sandisk 300, 128GB; Slot 2 Sony G 300, 128GB photos in buffer until full: 35; buffer empties in 19 sec 3) Slot 1 Sony Tough G 300, 128GB; Slot 2 Sony Tough G 277, 256GB photos in buffer until full: 35; buffer empties in 19 sec 4) Slot 1 Sandisk 300, 128GB; Slot 2 Sony Tough G 277, 256GB photos in buffer until full: 33; buffer empties in 17 sec 5) Slot 1 Lexar 1000x, 128GB; Slot 2 Sony Tough G 277, 256GB photos in buffer until full: 33; buffer empties in 49 sec

@AdrianChoPhotography

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!