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@GëesmoothRTYT

Жыл бұрын

Boy

@rojiislam1223

Жыл бұрын

23 hours ago? How does that work?

@BestManGamer

Жыл бұрын

@@rojiislam1223 he posted the comment when it was fully uploaded and private a day ago its really not that hard to think of

@georgew1466

Жыл бұрын

Say what u want about this sponsers but they do pay well

@Nick-wf8wj

Жыл бұрын

@@BestManGamer why’d u have to be so passive aggressive in that response lol

The issue with joker in origins wasn't that he was in it, it was the fact that he pushed roman aside. They could've done everything the same but instead of making roman a side mission, you could've had him keep more of his gang, try to take out joker, and have batman try to balance a city-wide gang war along with the assassins. If you're going to advertise black mask as a main villain, then make him one and keep it that way.

@TheChosenMoose01

Жыл бұрын

Nailed it. Arkham City literally proved that you didn't need the Joker as the main villain to make a good Batman story. (Yes, I think Hugo Strange is the primary villain of Arkham City over Joker)

@blacktytrix

Жыл бұрын

@@TheChosenMoose01 agreed. To me, it always felt like strange was the main villain with the b plot and joker was right behind him in terms of villain status but he had the a plot. Most of what we do in the story is related to joker and his plan but in the bigger picture, ever action we take is perpetrated by strange. Ultimately he's pulling all the strings.

@TheChosenMoose01

Жыл бұрын

@bruhmanofyear2 I'd have to disagree. In the story, the main person you're trying to stop isn't Joker, it's Strange from starting Protocol 10.

@michaeliv284

Жыл бұрын

Here's my pitch; have Black Mask haveva subordinate he has throughout the game that becomes Joker in a end credits scene

@justindeliwe8065

Жыл бұрын

Dude not even the advertisements were accurate because none of what Black Mask was advertised had fitted his character, in other words you guys are dumb for not noticing the plot twist coming.

You forgot the part where Batman beat Branden, that shouldn’t be possible because Branden is a Multiversal threat

@DrDolan2000

Жыл бұрын

I'll show you a multiversal threat, you dirty, rotten cop

@TheBanishedWind

8 ай бұрын

Dafuq?

@orlandojosemoraamaya363

5 ай бұрын

​@@TheBanishedWindit's a meme, get use to it

@TheBanishedWind

5 ай бұрын

@@orlandojosemoraamaya363 Was the dickery necessary?

@Juicy_wiwi

4 ай бұрын

Avengers level threat

The biggest problem with Arkham Origins is that all the boss fights sucked except for the Electrocutioner. Like, couldn't they at least make one that was as good as the Electrocutioner, was that too much to ask for?

@christiancrusader9374

Жыл бұрын

What about Deathstroke?

@calebmangold6355

Жыл бұрын

@@christiancrusader9374 I'm joking.

@christiancrusader9374

Жыл бұрын

@@calebmangold6355 oh.

@nohumanhere2167

Жыл бұрын

Your wrong best boss fight is random thug I found on the street

@ThisVideoGameGuy

Жыл бұрын

The best boss fight was the guy we dropped at the clock

I really enjoyed Arkham Origins's story, and Joker was still fun to have in the game. But having Black Mask as the main villian in this game would've been great in this game! But it's always the...Joker. But it's pretty obvious why WB Montreal put Joker as the main villain.

@bimbuerton362

Жыл бұрын

I do think that they maybe wanted to showcase an earlier interaction between Batman and the Joker to establish their relationship in the Arkham series and this is how they incorporated it. I think not having seeing him in this game would have made more sense but for what it’s worth, I really enjoy the interactions they have in this game and how perplexed joker is by Batman (and vice versa).

@MGrey-qb5xz

Жыл бұрын

yes cause it's the origin of arkham

@user-Oneshotez

8 ай бұрын

Now that I think about it who really the main villian in Knight joker or scarecrow 🤔

@technounionrepresentative4274

7 ай бұрын

i would be fine with joker if black mask wasn't immediately sidelined, in the arkham series he is actually the joker in orgins, missing in asylum, a jobber with a chair in city and in a DLC mission in knight, i think it's part of why whenever i talk to people about black mask they talk about him like he's a borderline kiteman or maxie zeus level villain

I love Arkham Origins. And it seriously needs a remaster.

@SplendidSuperman122

Жыл бұрын

Yes please! Having to play it on an old glitchy PS3 is a hassle!

@rhysburns5420

Жыл бұрын

Would love a sequel too but it's not gonna happen

@comicfan1324

Жыл бұрын

Yes. No more elaboration needed just yes.

@CosSkye

Жыл бұрын

@@rhysburns5420 i'd love a game taking place in a time between origins and asylum, hell the timeskip between those games were 9 years.

@ayaannazir7308

Жыл бұрын

@@SplendidSuperman122 it is nostalgic playing the original version tho

What could be fun is either have the Red Hood gang working for Black Mask and they can set up Joker’s backstory or have that as a side mission so he is still in Origins but is not the main villain.

@blacktytrix

Жыл бұрын

I've often thought about how cool it would be to have had a game set before arkham origins, or just a dlc campaign of sorts set before origins. Like we have batman, even earlier in his career, taking on black mask, the crime families, and even calander man, since that sets up the story of origins and gives us more backstory of Gotham. There could be a mission in that where you are stopping frequent robberies to find out it was the red hood gang you're after, where the ending could see us playing as batman witnessing the red hood becoming the joker in real time. Then, when we got to play origins, black mask already has a bone to pick with batman and the joker has been created. Would've been awesome to see how it could be pulled off.

@emilykeepsmiling9465

Жыл бұрын

That's a great idea! They'd have to be very careful about how they did it so make sure people didn't accuse them of just dropping in a tiny nod as a last minute thought, but it could have been so awesome!

@mygreatrolls1717

Жыл бұрын

I think a dlc could've worked better just so cutscenes and then it could be a little longer. Also having another dlc like cold cold heart would have been great

@tanjesus420

11 ай бұрын

Doesn't he not exist at this point? Jason Todd hadn't become Robin yet, and joker was a new threat, his obsession with batman had just started, so he wouldn't have "killed" Jason Todd, right? Correct me if I'm wrong please.

@Lord-Emperor-Vader

11 ай бұрын

@@tanjesus420 Joker was the first Red Hood and was him when he fell into the chemicals that made him the Joker

I always felt like it would be cool if the detective missions led up to Batman foiling a red hood heist at Ace Chemicals, which ends in him accidentally kicking the ringleader in a vat of chemicals. Batman sets up a crime-scene near where the chemicals are disposed of near the ocean in search for the ringleader, but the body is missing… no other mention of the joker in the rest of the game.

@russellschwartz3912

2 ай бұрын

This would have been really fucking cool.

i think the joker should have been a side mission where you find people that have dies from suffocation by laughing too much. eventually Batman find his base, it being an old toy shop and though out it we hear logs of what joker did and how many people died. Bats finds him but gets sprayed with original laughing gas but over comes it and that causes Joker to become obsessed with Batman as everyone else died.

@jadekissling

11 ай бұрын

That's actually a really good idea. It could possibly set up Joker in an Arkham Origins sequel.

@santinopugliese1837

6 ай бұрын

@@jadekissling sorry but we’re not getting a sequel anytime soon

@jadekissling

6 ай бұрын

@@santinopugliese1837 yeah I know. Thank you for reminding me

The main sin of this game is that Arkham Origins doesn’t have a remaster.

@HOTD108_

4 ай бұрын

After how badly Return to Arkham messed up the character models and atmosphere (just look at Batman's face and how much less mood lighting there is in every scene) it's honestly a relief that Origins didn't get butchered the same way Asylum and City were. A blessing in disguise if you will. Besides, Origins is still available on Steam and can run on most PCs so it's not like new fans can't play it.

@ImTheReverse

4 ай бұрын

@@HOTD108_oh calm down. Return to Arkham is perfectly fine. Does it look worse in alot of areas? Yes. But it’s more accessible to more people. That alone makes it worth it. As does rain on Arkham Island. Also, it’s been 7 years. Get over it.

@jacksawack6724

3 ай бұрын

@@HOTD108_you’re describing BRTA as if it’s this horrible unplayable nightmare even though that’s how I played the games first and I hardly noticed too many issues. Only City really has major stuff, (low quality textures, and models disappearing occasionally) but that’s pretty easy to get over.

I think Black Mask should have hired Joker, and after Batman took Black Mask down, Joker's like "OK, now we do it *my* way!"

@HOTD108_

4 ай бұрын

What would be the benefit of that change? That STILL undermines Black Mask's credibility as the big bad guy and would give less build up to Joker, so it's a lose-lose scenario from both angles.

@GoodNeutralEvilChaos

4 ай бұрын

@@HOTD108_ 1) It gives Black Mask more than the original game gave him 2) It would be a reference to how when Joker first appeared, he was an actual joker and not as lethal as he's known today.

@s0biektywnie

3 ай бұрын

​@@GoodNeutralEvilChaos kinda like Shang tsung and shao Kahn dynamic, right hand man just waiting to take the lead

@barghest94

3 ай бұрын

@@HOTD108_ As someone whose favourite Batman villain is Black Mask (for some reason.), I honestly don't see the issue in Joker undermining or surpassing him in the end... anything other than Joker having been impersonating him the whole time. You can still build up Joker, that's is something I wish they did more even though I don't care all that much for him. (For some reason.)

14:42 Regarding the Harley/Joker continuity, I have a potential fix for that. Their first meeting happened at Blackgate, and it of course was also her start down the road to becoming Harley. We also know that Harley and Harleen had some pretty intense internal identity struggles in the Arkhamverse thanks to her DLC in Knight. And probably most importantly, we do not know when exactly the Asylum interview tapes were recorded. To make things work, we're going to assume that her employment at Arkham, and thus those interview tapes, happened pretty early in the time between Origins and Asylum. At this point, Harley did not have a criminal history. Joker could have had his goons take the fall for some of the early crimes she committed. And even in instances when it was known it was a female that committed a particular crime, that's not an issue either. In the sewers in Asylum, Joker makes a "generous offer" to punish one of his goons, by having their wife's knees broken. So for a crime that a goon wouldn't be able to take the fall for, Joker would frame one of the goon's female family members instead. Harley would of course see this as Joker "protecting" her, but it would all be a part of his plan - to get Harley a job at Arkham as a psychiatrist, so she would have in-depth knowledge of the layout, security systems, and procedures. And at least for some time before getting caught working with Joker, she would be able to bring him any items he might need for his next scheme. So the interview tapes in Asylum _would_ in fact be them roleplaying. As per Arkham Asylum not knowing that Harleen already met and interviewed Joker at Blackgate, that was a _very_ crazy night. Lots of things were destroyed, including any records of that initial interview.

@Starkstar502

8 ай бұрын

BRILLANT! BRILLANT!

@MrAjking808

5 ай бұрын

Thinking too much into it

I think the Dark Knight Challenges deserves a honorable mention or at least bring up the Worst Nightmare challenges. The biggest problem with them is that you can’t complete them from respawning enemies in old predator encounters or even the challenge maps. Worst part about this is that you can’t get the Sonic Shock Batarang WHICH IS LITERALLY A STAR IN A PREDATOR CHALLENGE. If Origins somehow gets a remaster, they really need to redesign the Dark Knight Challenges and make it possible to beat it

@DigitalArctic

Жыл бұрын

To be fair this is the game with the "I am the Night" Mode, which basically gives you unlimited access to NG+, so it's never truly impossible to complete these challenges on any save file since you can replay the story infinitely. That said I do agree, those challenges suck, and they would need a serious overhaul for any remaster this game gets. (If it ever gets one that is, here's hoping!)

@mockery_finn

Жыл бұрын

@@DigitalArctic. Wait fr.

@GodOfOrphans

Жыл бұрын

@@mockery_finn Yes actually you can complete the Dark Knight track in I Am The Night mode, and if you finish the game too soon again in that modeyou should be able to die to reset it. So it isn't truly permanently missable thanks to that but it's still ludicrous to essentially require partial to nearly full playthroughs to reach an actually viable predator section that you can actually complete the challenges

@mockery_finn

Жыл бұрын

@@GodOfOrphans. Damn

@Ikea_Shark990

7 ай бұрын

Honestly, those Dark Knight Challenges alone are Origins' BIGGEST flaws. If it weren't for them, I'd personally consider it the best game in the series.

I’ve a few of my own ideas for the Black Mask rewrite, since it’s a very interesting take on the story. Black Mask could have a primary motive to force the police and criminals (mainly Penguin) into a long lasting conflict so he can seize power in Gotham, taking full control of the city as he buys off the remaining segments of both ends. This’ll set Roman’s point of view to be one of power and control of others, something that darkly mirrors Batmans current methods of fear and pushing others away. Roman seeks to use people for his own gain, Bruce needs to learn that he needs to allow people to aid him for the benefit of everyone. During the first Blackgate riot, the murder of Lobe and attempted killing of Warden Joseph initially seems to be instigated by the Penguin. This is the final straw to push the GCPD into war with The Penguin. Batman, however, will catch Roman leaving before you fight Croc. The rest of the game continues as normal, I like the idea of Roman faking his death, framing Penguin to pressure him more. Roman will leave a hidden message for Batman to come to the bank, and I think we can fit a nice character beat in here. He stages an ambush at his bank because, before he springs the trap, he attempts to buy off Batman, believing everyone has a price. This obviously doesn’t work and we continue as normal. I really like the heartbeat thing with Bane, so maybe we can rewrite it so Bane has rigged some of the cells to explode, with prisoners trapped inside, Loose Lips can be shown as one of them for the fun of him reappearing, potentially even other villains from side quests like hatter depending if you do them. This pressures Bruce into the whole ‘someone will die’ situation and lead to the scene with Gordon. But now he needs his aid to stop Roman. The final change I’d make would be think final confrontation. Batman and Gordon actually take him down together, with Batman triggering Roman into a monologue that ‘everyone has a price’ and how ‘the entire city will work for me’ of which Gordon will record in secret for evidence, foiling Roman’s plan to start a war. He’s detained for good this time and curses out Gordon’s nature as a truly good cop, saying that he was the ‘only one who wouldn’t take the money.’ Gives Jim some good spotlight to lead into his closing monologue.

@randallflagg3700

Жыл бұрын

Nice. I was thinking that at the bank ambush with Deadshot, *this* could be the moment Roman Sionis' mask get burned into his face during the explosion, which would cause him to become much more unhinged and vengeful toward Batman for making him "lose face"... The meeting with the mercenaries could be the establishing moment of Black Mask's insanity showing up when he murders Lester Buchinsky (that I am currently super happy with, having just received my issue of Nightwing #96

@randallflagg3700

Жыл бұрын

@bruhmanofyear2 - That's kinda the New52 Black Mask, when Roman Sionis was in Arkham Asylum, and Jeremiah kept borrowing his mask for "Joyrides" as Sionis put it, during the *Battle for the Cowl* storyline. In that continuity, the mask had actual "mild" mind powers, it was compared to Jervis Tetch's technology a couple times. There was even an event when Jervis Tetch and Roman Sionis went to war, Wonderland Gang vs False Face Society, it was a bit all over the place but as a Black Mask fanboy, I take what I can. In that one, Roman Sionis and Jeremiah Arkham clearly are like a different person when they're wearing the mask... Then we moved on to *"DC Rebirth"* (and its follow up *"DC Universe"* , and the one we're currently into, *"DC Infinite Frontier"*), in which Roman and his mask went back to not having powers, but being a ruthless crime lord, being the first Big Bad in *Red Hood and the Oultaws: Rebirth* and Catwoman's new arc, in which Black Mask allies himself with the Yakuzas. I mean, the current Black Mask had powers for a while, when Apex Lex gave his technology so he could turn himself into anybody, but that special Mask was destroyed at the end of the 2020 Suicide Squad run (the one in which he kills Deadshot).

@avangelinechatters

Жыл бұрын

@@No-ym2vh He wrote a whole what now??

@DrDolan2000

Жыл бұрын

This is a great idea!

@TheBanishedWind

8 ай бұрын

@@No-ym2vh essay*

The first time I played origins I genuinely thought I was using the concussion detonator wrong because of how little it did

@theragingrodent__

Жыл бұрын

Yeah same here dude, I just kept assuming it was going to come into play in a few boss fights down the line but it never did. It's pretty much just a coke can Batman throws at people.

Something I'd kind of like as Black Mask being the main villain is actually showing him getting his mask fused to his face.

@HOTD108_

4 ай бұрын

I hate to spoil the surprise, but if that's what you want to see then let's just say maybe you should play Arkham Origins Blackgate :) The Deluxe Edition is still available on Steam.

I would say Joker should have been one of the assassins hired by Black Mask that we later find out about. He is crazy so in the end when Bane is probably capturing us to present to Black Mask, Joker goes crazy and kills him for no reason other than he has taken an interest in Batman's moral code. Now deciding he wanted to have his own fun with Batman, he decides to kill black mask and bane goes after the Joker for ruining his chances of getting paid. He throws joker off the building and Batman goes to save him, continuing the scene where batman did save joker in Origins.

There's also plenty of glitches where I can be hit without the hit animation occurring, bird gang fights just not appearing after the radio call for them, black gate prisoners not appearing, and black gate drug smuggling also not appearing

@hassanawdi3793

Жыл бұрын

Strangely I can't remember encountering glitches

@robbiesrevelations3096

Жыл бұрын

@HASSAN Awdi bull. I refuse to believe you never got hit without the animation being there. And personally I see their animation beating my animation when mine started first is a glitch that constantly trolls me

The glitch portion is SO true! The only ever glitches I get with Knight are random crashes with the Batmobile, and that's it. I never have anything unless I'm trying to do a lot with the Batmobile and my entire game just breaks to the point of needing a console restart, and that's usually while leaving the GCPD. Origins, however, that game has so many glitches I'd end up having to restart my save file when doing some side quests, especially with Data Handlers and investigations. It sucks finishing a combat section, only for my endless presses of the Y button or the triangle button to do absolutely nothing to the last man standing. And then I'd have to restart my checkpoint to restart the entire combat section, or the entire side mission altogether. Oh yeah, and the concussion detonator is surprisingly less useless than I initially thought. It still sucks, though!

@g-unit692

Жыл бұрын

I love arkham origins play it on my series x only issues I have with it is there are some major bugs that never got patched like the enemy ai is stupid sometimes and it randomly crashes which after looking it up is a problem across all platforms which they never fixed but I can forgive these flaws as I think it's a great superhero game it would be nice to have a remaster but don't think it will ever happen sadly ☹

@robbiesrevelations3096

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Knights glitches are usually harmless

@TheRoxBox99

Жыл бұрын

@@robbiesrevelations3096 Yeah, usually they just inconvenient you for a couple seconds, or make you laugh. Aside from the bad crashes that need a full console restart, that is

@robbiesrevelations3096

Жыл бұрын

@Lego Fan 74 I hit one guy so hard that I broke his own gravity. He's just unconscious floating in a falling position. Arkham Origins however constantly restarts

@robbiesrevelations3096

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRoxBox99 bird gang doesn't appear, Black mask won't appear, sliding hit animations

Damn do i love how they introduced the joker in this game and i loved the game itself. Lets be honest who doesnt like free flow combat with gadgets and you are THE BATMAN. WB Montreal, great work.

GREAT VIDEO! Two Things I would’ve put: 1) The fact that the game forces you to choose certain upgrades in order to get other upgrades that are unrelated is annoying. 2) Worst Nightmare Challenge….. without respawning thugs in indoor areas that can be used for each challenge.

The biggest problem with Origins is absolutely the bugs. It was absolutely riddled with them on launch and to this day isn't in a great state. (albeit far better than launch) On my first play through when I was 80% of the way through the main storyline my save file was corrupted, which ended up killing the games reputation for me. I can handle lag, bad physics, and pop in, but I cannot forgive save file corruption. I do absolutely love the multiplayer mode to death though.

During that one part where you have to jump out of a window from an explosion in the hotel section, I misssed the grapple, but instead of dying, I landed on something, and the game registered that as me landing in the hotel, and the game saved. So I got softlocked. I couldn’t grapple back up, so I was stuck. And I didn’t feel like doing the whole game again I never beat the game after that. At least I’ve beaten it before

Arkham Origins is my favorite in the series. But when you talked about how unfinished the game is, I flashed back to how in my copy, the data pack handler for data pack 12 (aka the bridge which is by far the most annoying) never spawned, even though the games map stated he had. I had to find every file manually which wasn’t that bad but it could’ve been way easier had the game been tested more thoroughly

I think cool idea would be revealing Joker to be one of assassins, and in Grand Hotel he along with Bane would overthrow Black Mask. This would set up finale, how Joker became powerful mob boss and how Black Mask becamse so pathetic in this saga

I think I am pretty conflicted on how I feel, because how they *did* explore the joker+batman origins was done incredibly well, but also the premise of a non-joker or pre-joker setting where batman has to deal with some of the more obscure or less-mainstream (or at least less so than the joker) crooks, that are still incredibly dangerous to require the plot, sounds equally pretty fun! They could've even done a whole Joker easter egg afterwards if it was pre-joker, like something referencing a comedy scene or the ace chemicals incident as redhood.

Funny enough despite knowing how buggy Arkham origins can be I really haven’t experienced too many myself. I think that’s just dumb luck on my part, but the only thing I can think of that happened to me during my latest play through the game last week was the game crashed when I used the grapnel boost as the game was entering a save state. Of course that’s annoying but I couldn’t tell if that was because of the game or because the PlayStation 3 couldn’t handle it. Again I’m not denying the games buggy I just think it’s funny that I really haven’t run into that many issues with the game. Apart from that I did see the glitch where you can Bat-Claw enemies off the GCPD roof, however I don’t really count that since you have to actively choose to activate that glitch, as it’s not something you would normally do.

@blacktytrix

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I never really experienced anything big in any of the arkham games really, let alone origins, though I have heard that a lot of issues with origins were on Playstation for some reason. At most for me, the game has crashed and that's it.

@sunsetman22

Жыл бұрын

I have 44 hours logged on Steam, beat the game three times and I just encountered my first glitch a few days ago while on my nth attempt at I Am the Night mode. it was that horrible "falling into the black void" glitch.

This rewrite is amazing. I think the subtle character details you added in sounds really great

Thank you so much for Still making Arkham Content and keeping the hype real 😊❤

While I do like what you pitched without Joker, I think it would be fun to just have him as an assassin. You could keep Black mask still in power, but also keep the royal the same by saying Sionis gave Joker some of his men. After that you could basically leave Joker out of the rest of the story and have everything else you said happen. Oh and Joker would be killing electricutioner just for fun(if you were wondering).

I like the increased size of the map, but the new buildings and areas are less distinct and more bland than city imo.

I played this game for the first time on Christmas Eve so I was actually playing it when the game was set. Other than Croc being transparent, the only glitch I encountered was when I went to get the Extortion File from the back room of the My Alibi bar after defeating Bird. It didn't load the textures correctly so it was blank. And when I restarted, I was now permanently glitched through the floor and was just falling endlessly into the void, even after resetting. Fortunately, I found a solution. If you are stuck like this, do a challenge map and win so you gain XP. Then log back into where you are falling and wait until the game shows you earning the XP. Then reset again and the textures should load correctly this time. I was able to do this and successfully get the Extortion File without being permanently softlocked.

11:53 I swear to Christopher Nolan's Batman, I've never had any glitch in Arkham knight. Thats part of why it is one of my fav game all time.

there is precisely 1 bug i often encounter in this game, it's this thing where i get halfway done with the riddler mission but suddenly i am unable to access the south side of the map to get the rest of the breakables and collectables

So I had never experienced a major glitch in Arkham Origins until recently. I had made a new save file and had gotten to the part where you go to the sewers under the GCPD and the game froze. Then when I tried to reload the game it would freeze in the loading screen each time, so I had to delete the save file. One of the most frustrating glitches I've encountered in a game.

Personally I do count Origins as a retcon not because I don't love the story but there are things that don't really fit. As a smaller but annoying one: It's a Riddler Challenge to take a photo of Commissioner Gordon's parking spot in City. A station we go back to multiple times but in Origins that station doesn't exist. Instead of Krank Toys & the old GCPD we have the docks with the GCPD already being located across the river in an old rundown skyscraper that they've apparently been using for decades. They didn't just reuse & revitalize the map, they restructured entirely

@shadily9722

Жыл бұрын

gordon was still a cop when batman was a kid, that's a long time frame for whenever they moved to a new police station

I’ve encountered four glitches. The unable to interrogate the crook, can’t press the big buttons to get the data pack, beating a crook and they sent flying upwards, and Batman glide fish flop Idk if anyone has the last two, but I know I enjoyed them because of how stupid funny they were

I liked the fact that Joker was in origins because it was the birth of the relationship between him and Batman, but I do agree with the fact that it pushes the main plot aside at the same time. Maybe they should’ve kept Black Mask as the villain and left Joker absent then made a sequel about Joker

My Rankings of the games so far are. 1. Arkham Knight, had great gameplay, and a villain that was as good as Joker. A lot of people myself included really hated the Batmobile parts of the game but on my second playthrough years later I Love those parts now. Overall 9/10 with a medal of Best Gameplay of the series. 2. Arkham City, had great story, great boss fights, a killer ending, and great twists. I don't think anyone really disliked anything in this game, other then me that is, I hated the Catwoman sections, it's now like they were hard it's that they were boring. Overall 8/10 with the medal of Best Story of the series. 3. Arkham Origins, Origins had a good story, great boss fights, and great combat. One of the things I disliked most about Origins is that Joker was the main baddy the whole time, the Boss fights were amazing tho, best in the series hands down. Overall 8/10 with the medal of Best Boss fights of the series. (personal favorite boss is Death Stroke, he just to cool lol.) 4. Arkham Asylum, Asylum had a decent story, decent boss fights, and decent gameplay. The only saving Grace for Asylum is the attention to detail, they really went all out on building a great atmosphere, every villain was in this game whether you got to fight them or not. Overall 7/10 Still a solid game, Asylum earned the Medal of Atmosphere for not only the Arkham games but for every game I have ever played (and I have played a lot). Sorry for the long ass comment but I do really like the Arkham games and I love talking about them.

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16:14 the concussion detonator is basically just a worse smoke grenade with no cooldown. one thing it is useful for though it taking down the group of armed swat members in the gcpd you're supposed to sneak past.

I like to think that if Arkham origins came out today exactly as it is now (with the exception of graphics tuned to the standards of games today) it would have been received much more positively, it’s a good game that came out near the end of the golden age of gaming and people’s expectations were still too high especially coming out only two years after city, we were too spoiled back then to appreciate what we got

@HOTD108_

4 ай бұрын

Literally never heard anyone refer to 2013 as near the "end of the golden age of gaming". Microtransactions, base game content getting artificially cut out to be sold as DLC, and other awful industry practices were already well and truly in full swing by 2013. Don't get me wrong, countless great games have come out since, but to call it the golden age is a bit ridiculous.

@DonkeyWork420

4 ай бұрын

@@HOTD108_ you missed my point entirely it’s the end of the golden age because that’s when those practices came full swing like you said, and even then most of the games that these publishers forced those awful practices on were still slapped

@DonkeyWork420

4 ай бұрын

@@HOTD108_ also I consider the golden age of games to be 2006 to early 2013

I managed to play a game of Origins without glitches, although I remember playing it back in like 2013 and getting a bug that stopped progression in Penguin's ship

I like to think this true they did meet Blackgate but when Arkham opened Joker was moved and she stayed, so she interviewed at Arkham to meet him again and Joker was just pretending like it was their first

Speaking of the many glitches in this game I had a terrible one. During one of my playthroughs of I AM THE KNIGHT, I completed the Firefly boss fight but got a game over screen after the cut scene with Gordon played out. I had to restart again and it pissed me off so much.

Honestly, I think Joker could have worked better in Origins as not the main villain, at least not how he was, rather he takes over as an assassin after electrocutioner fails so quickly. Then have Joker as the secret extra assassin that comes in at the end after black mask is taken down. Maybe even show Joker take over after sionis is in jail. That could explain why Joker has so many followers out of the gate. Perhaps have Joker and Bane fight it out to see who controls Gotham, with batman being forced to conceded that Joker can leave and continue on as a crime boss when bane attacks Wayne manor, probably when he finally had Joker in his grip. Then at the very end, have some kind of symbolic thing to show how batman and Joker are both important for each other, perhaps have Joker use his influence to help batman take down the final boss battle of Bane

That black mask as main villain take of yours is just super awesome

I just woke up and this is the first thing I see on KZread. Thanks clown puncher!! ❤️🙏😁

my first time playing Origins, one door would for some reason always load the side I just left. then when I restarted the checkpoint, it just loaded nothing, forcing me to restart the whole run

Honestly, a way where they could still have the Joker as the final big bad but keep to the Black Mask story? Do your changes until Blackgate. Now, instead of a prison break, an inmate civil war breaks out due to some new upstart causing havoc. And said upstart is the Joker. Have Batman go there, and then have Black Mask temporarily ally with the bat to take out the insane loon to further show Batman had earned Black Mask's respect. But have the classic "Once we're done here, we're no longer friends" deal.

Now, hear me out, what if Joker was one of the assasins, but Sionis was the actual main villain. We could still get the Joker and Harley scene and maybe the festive Hotel stuff if we stretch it, but we would get a Black Mask story too.

The first time i played arkham orgins which was also my first arkham game i got softlocked im not sure what exactly happened because it was a long time ago but a cutscene never triggered and i was permanently stuck in the hotel and couldn't progress even if i reloaded a checkpoint or restarted the mission. Made me come back after a few weeks completely restart the game and beat it in one night and is still one of my favorite games and the first game i ever got to 100% completion.

Clownpuncher139 a glitch I encountered was infinite shock gloves, the meter never went down

Not if the bug forces you restart the whole game. The firefly battle at the bridge, after I saved the hostages and stopped the bomb you ad to grapple up in the bridge, but it didn't allow me to do that and I needed up falling and went into an inescapable void. Had to delete the save and start over. Needless to say, I was very angry at that outcome and every time I replay the same I'm terrified that will happen to me again.

I like your idea, except I'd have joker be some random henchman black mask has, one who's particularly tricky and lays some traps for batman during the blackgate part, eventually baricading himself in a secure room, only for batman to fill the room with laughing gas, at the end, the scene with harley would be a post credits type of thing, with that henchman having lost all sanity and memory, with only the batman stuff in his mind

i hadd a glitch in cold cold heart where i couldnt grapple up towards where the penguin is with freeze. i tried basically everything including wall jumping but had to restart the dlc from the start lmao

bro the amount of times I got irritated at the remote claw 😡 wanted to chuck the controller ridiculous

I agree with the changes but I would add a side quest at ace chemicals with a crime scene scan where you discover someone fell in a vat

Just another props to give wb montreal (which is where I'm from btw) is that they actually did a decent job by letting us fight slade and some other really cool villains, unlike rocksteady who gave us a sorry excuse for a "boss battle" between you and slade

Last time I tried playing through this game I got through the merchant bank section and than when I came back it said I had a corrupted save and I couldn’t continue that play through. I’m not sure if that was a glitch with the game, something with my 360, or something I did wrong. All I know for sure is I was royally pissed

Nice video! Glad to see someone point out origins and I personally love this game, really enjoyed this.

The other major annoyance that I've never seen anyone talk about is the respawning snipers in the Diamond District. Two on the roof of the radio tower, two on other rooftops nearby, and whichever one you go after first, there will be at least one other taking shots at you. I'm actually very glad that there are so many fast travel points because it means that I can move between the other districts on the south island without having to glide through Sniperville and get half my health bar shot off.

@shoresean1237

7 ай бұрын

When the game proper is over, the snipers spawn at a ridiculous rate. My brother landed on one rooftop that had six snipers on it. Also, they are psychic and can hit you from anywhere. In-universe, when the bounties are called off, who is paying these heavily specialized criminals to wait in the heaviest snow outside the poles in history on Christmas?!

@HOTD108_

4 ай бұрын

It's so odd that the snipers respawn in Origins because the snipers in both Asylum and City never respawned after you take them out. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if the respawning snipers were just another trademark Origins glitch lol.

The thing about the Joker is that they kind of had to include him in this game. How does one make an origin story about a superhero without including that character's most infamous enemy, especially when that origin story is a prequel to two other games where that enemy is established to be the most important? It would just be a bit ridiculous not to have him there. Of course, him, Black Mask, and Bane could have all been working together as the main villains, or they all could have had their own, equally important roles in the game as separate enemies. Regardless, you can't really ignore the Joker in Arkham Batman's origin story. He's just too important in Asylum and City.

I remember i ran into this glitch in Arkham Origins where some of Batman's Equipment were missing and prevented me from progressing, meaning i had to replay the entire game all over again. I was lucky to complete the whole game in one day tho (including I am the knight mode)

My only additions would be the revamped upgrades forcing you to by armor instead of the ones you want. The other one is the stupid dark knight challenges some of witch if you don’t do them early enough you can’t do them all on that file potentially locking you out of upgrades. I have other personal gripes with the game but I’ll leave it there.

I had 2 huge bugs in this game have me restart the game entirely and it was not fun. One I fell infinitely into a void and no restart helped. And another was the fight with executioner didn’t show up

I loved ur alternate story without the joker. One thing I would change is that after black mask is apprehended by Batman, black mask is no longer the main villain and is replaced with bane. Ik this will still be disappointing because of how the game was advertised but seeing how bane was handled in this game he could for sure be a super engaging main antagonist

Thoughts on the version of the grappnel accelerator being pretty much the same as the Grappnel boost from City, when that was a brand new prototype?

@TheBanishedWind

8 ай бұрын

City's prototype was for a sleeker, not-as-armored Batman, whose newer suits couldn't take the G's, and the final version came with the v7 Batsuit from Knight, which *_could_* take the G's.

I feel like that scene with Donkey from Shrek 1, going 'oh me, pick me' because I played origins on ps3 without the internet so no updates at all and have never encountered a single bug or glitch while playing

i personally don't have any issue with the bridge, but what does annoy me is the huge building to the left of shedon park that you can't climb or glide over and have to glide around to reach or leave the north west of gotham without a fast travel. this one annoys me more because it's just not necessary. why did they not allow us to just grapple to the top or something?

When I first played origins, I was respawning from fighting TN-1 Bane when I teleported onto a black platform inside an empty, cloudy void with no way out no matter how many times I restarted. I remember jumping off the platform and taking about 5 minutes to die and respawn into that void.

The contradiction with Harley meeting Joker before the asylum is reopened is annoying but this is how I see it: What Arkham asylum was being made they wanted the continuity to feel very familiar and by extension included things from other Batman continuities. This of course lead to inconsistencies with later titles, such as Hugo strange already being stated to be unknown part of Batman‘s rogues gallery in his character file despite the fact his first official thought with the Dark Knight wouldn’t be until the next game. (Obviously he was probably corrupt before that but Batman wouldn’t have directly come to the blues with him yet.) So how I see it is, the tapes and files are canon unless they’re contradicted with later information. Obviously it’s not the best explanation, and it definitely doesn’t justify a the inconsistency in game, but I think that’s the most rational way to look at it.

I actually had no glitches in Knight or Origins. Knight basically at all, Origins only in post game where one of the prisoners didnt really spawn in. I've maybe seen more but nothing enough to remember

Maybe I’m just insanely lucky. But I can’t recall a single glitch from Arkham Origins. I can’t speak for the other versions. But the Wii U version runs great. Too bad we never got Cold Cold Heart on it

I wish joker was handled like Hugo from AC. With him mainly taking center stage at the hotel. So we could still have that Blackgate ending.

I love your fantasy edit of the storyline, what a good deal that would’ve been

The only time I found a game breaking glitch was when I went to interrogate someone and it just wouldn’t let me. Other times the only glitches would be where it would just look like the thug was still fighting but it was counted as knocked out

I remember when I first played origins it was so glitchy that I thought the electrocutioner was just another glitched fight

Honestly i was really bummed when Sionis got shafted. Black Mask is one of my favourite villains and works so well for a story like this.

I'm sure you've heard this a lot but you're one of the most underrated KZreadrs I've ever seen.

The fact the Wii U version of the game wast the most stable for weeks after launch is still the funniest thing about this series

I remember being one of the few people who liked this game since I first played it many years ago, nice to see others coming around.

I played Knight in 2022 on PC and Origins sometime between 2017-2020 (I forgot which year) on the PS3 and I don’t ever remember seeing a bug on either.

I feel like they could of made the joker parts a dlc instead like they did with mr freeze. You kind of forgot to talk about black mask side quest It sucks that black mask became a side quest after the steel mill. But I think black mask side question could still work but in a different way . Not having Batman fight black mask at the end like that

I love Joker and his portrayal in Origins to death, some of the best Batman and joker stuff ever, BUT the rewrite you laid out sounds so incredible and interesting and like something I would have loved to have seen. But in the end I’m happy with what we got. I hope we get something with black mask as the main villain tho, that would be dope, he’s a villain I wanna see more of

If you go to GCPD in the room called SWAT managers Office there is a door that leads to nowhere and their are more like it through out the game

My main complaint is there seems to be NO grapple locations leaving you stranded spamming RB

I think the bridge is just a clever loading screen for other part of the city

Honestly Black Mask should have been the main villain but at the end there is a little epilogue gameplay section where Batman is investigating a break-in at ACE Chemicals, but a man wearing a red bucket like mask ends up falling into the toxic waste before Batman can save him. It then cuts to outside the pipe where the man removes the red mask and sees his new face and let’s out a cold laugh. That’s how Joker should have been in the game, just a little cameo at the end which explains the origins of Joker in Arkham Origins.

They didn't even need to remove the Joker completely from the game just not make him the main villain. A side quest where you fight him as the Red Hood gang boss or even incorporate Joker's Comedian Origin into the story or technically both since he was forced to wear Red Hood's costume during the robbery of Ace Chemicals in his Comedian backstory.

As a Wondershare Filmora veteran, I can identify every type of text and effect present here.

i know this is small but I always appreciated how batman has a fighting pose in this game when combat is initiated, it just added a level of coolness when fighting

“Good day chaps’ it’s I” will never get old

Your take on how Roman could've been the main villain is absolutely stellar

It'd cool if WB Montreal had been able to make two games. Arkham Origins which could have been focused completely on Roman Sionis with a plot similar to what you described, and then later they could've made a sequel, somewhere between Origins and Asylum, where they pretend it's Black Mask or someone else as the main villain and then do a rug pull, because the Joker was well done, just should've maybe not been a main facet of a game marketed with Black Mask in mind.

Honestly with some more tweaks to the story, they could’ve done both of these stories. It would result in a slightly longer game, but that’s better than just shoving Black Mask to the side completely

Joker didn’t send the assassins after Batman because he was interested in him. I don’t think he really gave a shit about Batman until Batman saves him. That action made Joker question him and that in turn unraveled into the obsession.

The map is inconsistent to Arkham City with some buildings having different uses like the GCPD being a train station. I also think the Joker twist would work better if they advertised it as the first confrontation between Batman and Joker.

I think Joker should've had just a dlc like harley in city / freeze in origins

I was thinking, “I’ve never had a glitch” then I realized and remembered I have. In New Game + I can’t do the AR Training