EVERYTHING a 2K MMR CARRY does WRONG (and how to fix it)

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This 2K MMR analysis has so many different things that anyone can benefit from. This is not limited to 2k players, in my opinion almost any player can learn something from this.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:33 Deciding the Starting Items
05:27 Laning Phase (In-depth)
23:04 Post Laning Phase ( In-depth)
35:47 Itemization Issue
39:01 Mid-Game (In-depth)
50:00 Late Game (In-depth)
1:08:30 Major Things to Work on for Instant Improvement
1:10:35 Coaching & Outro
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  • @IshmanDebba
    @IshmanDebba8 ай бұрын

    "Sniper is a core hero, everybody knows that." Me with pos5 snipers in my team

  • @kamilberys4843

    @kamilberys4843

    6 ай бұрын

    he said usually

  • @kylemac8672

    @kylemac8672

    5 ай бұрын

    Max head shot and stack attack speed, they can't ever get close!

  • @kamilberys4843

    @kamilberys4843

    5 ай бұрын

    ye on crusaders xd @@kylemac8672

  • @samirranjanmajhi
    @samirranjanmajhi8 ай бұрын

    Guiding the whole game is supremely useful. Thank you for putting in the time and effort to make this!

  • @sharonevans8982
    @sharonevans89826 ай бұрын

    Really love how he bombards with every detail. Lots of insights and very helpful... Sometimes it's overwhelming which makes me realize there is a lot to learn... But his insights are No.1... Million dollar tips...

  • @Killamoocow21

    @Killamoocow21

    6 ай бұрын

    it is overwhelming, but it just goes to show how big of a disparity there is of game knowledge when you compare 2k to 8k mmr in this example. implementing even a quarter of what he says will drastically improve your gameplay.

  • @adelmcraevidal4826
    @adelmcraevidal48268 ай бұрын

    Legend has it that the fv player still hasn’t bought bkb til today

  • @adeljemssi5813
    @adeljemssi58133 ай бұрын

    You can always look at your own creep wave position to guess where opponents creep wave is going to be, if yours bottom creep wave is under tier 2 then enemy's top creep wave is going to also be at their tier 2.

  • @iamdopeasfcuk
    @iamdopeasfcuk7 ай бұрын

    i love this channel. i'm new and have been learning so much. thank you for the amazing resources here!

  • @jixtur
    @jixtur8 ай бұрын

    thank you so much for this video i really appreciate you putting so much work into a whole explanation of the game really helpful. i love your channel

  • @Someguy055
    @Someguy0555 ай бұрын

    Love your analysis of the lane play. Learned much!

  • @mardion334
    @mardion3348 ай бұрын

    loving your channel! thanks!

  • @soeasychannel2507
    @soeasychannel25077 ай бұрын

    loved this video helped me to improve my laning stages and what to do on the map

  • @ctbwx
    @ctbwx7 ай бұрын

    I've been keeping up with all of your new videos for the past 3 months or so, and have climbed 1k mmr playing only pos 1, in those months. Such good content and fo free!?

  • @spiderman20088
    @spiderman200885 ай бұрын

    bro got cooked for 2 minutes before the game has even started

  • @jasonmoore442
    @jasonmoore4426 ай бұрын

    What an awesome video man. Thanks!

  • @striker1253
    @striker12536 ай бұрын

    This video is gold! Thank you!

  • @bilibistrox
    @bilibistrox4 ай бұрын

    Best dota 2 tutorials I have ever watched. And I am playing this game since dota 1. You are very coherent. Thank you 🥂

  • @jarddog7968
    @jarddog79688 ай бұрын

    thanks man, your advice to that guy also hits me

  • @thecoldmonk
    @thecoldmonk8 ай бұрын

    again i am telling you your guides are the best

  • @bertacosta6589
    @bertacosta65896 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this!

  • @Rame_Gaming1
    @Rame_Gaming12 ай бұрын

    Appreciate this bro im 2 k mmr myself keep up the good work

  • @onyourfeetsoldier
    @onyourfeetsoldier8 ай бұрын

    watched from start to finish - so many small mistakes I'm making that are probably adding up to some huge mmr loss. thanks for sharing with us all!

  • @xongaming4456
    @xongaming44567 ай бұрын

    The analysis and advice in this video are very insightful. I must admit that I tend to only focus on my lane and hero too much. Although I make an effort to be aware of who's missing on the map, I don't check the item progress of the enemy team as much. I'm the kind of player who only deals with problems when they're already right in front of me. In other words, I don't think ahead that much of who's gonna potentially dominate the game.

  • @user-xl6yo5dr6p

    @user-xl6yo5dr6p

    7 ай бұрын

    That's what advance player do and it takes years because this game is too complicated.

  • @czyang95
    @czyang95Ай бұрын

    Thanks for your lesson sir, even tho I am playing pos3 I learn alot

  • @aivlogs360
    @aivlogs3606 ай бұрын

    GOOD analysis. You should ask void to switch trades while using time walk as well. little efficiency maks the difference!

  • @abiduestafelu
    @abiduestafelu8 ай бұрын

    Hope to see a mid player being coached soon

  • @24.k.g.f.97

    @24.k.g.f.97

    8 ай бұрын

    I play mid and recently have climbed from herald 1 into crusader using lone druid. I would love a coaching session

  • @chinkeetoes6898

    @chinkeetoes6898

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @NoobofArchon

    @NoobofArchon

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@24.k.g.f.97congrats 👏

  • @ante4331

    @ante4331

    7 ай бұрын

    @@24.k.g.f.97 how long it took you?

  • @ChrisDerBlonde
    @ChrisDerBlonde7 ай бұрын

    great content

  • @D2EvilDaveGG
    @D2EvilDaveGG3 ай бұрын

    Great in-depth analysis as usual, pain! Your fps is nearly 300, can i know the gear you’re using? My 3060 on ryzen 7 5800 gives me around 150 fps average only

  • @raulmontero8736
    @raulmontero87368 ай бұрын

    I would suggest a support coaching video, but in low mmr is just a grief roulette. U can do perfectly but in mayority of games ur team think as crusader or below, and it's that it is... So in any case I realized is better to climb as a farming carry/pusher supp. Without grieffing on your role

  • @SoGDsimple
    @SoGDsimple5 ай бұрын

    I click on this thinking I wouldn't learn much, but definitely insightful the way you break it down

  • @atillafatihunver617
    @atillafatihunver6174 ай бұрын

    32:30 about tp's, there is portal mechanic now. you can't feel safe even if enemy has 0 tp's

  • @AlMohammadi-og7bk
    @AlMohammadi-og7bk8 ай бұрын

    Thank u man

  • @M.AntonioAlaran
    @M.AntonioAlaran6 ай бұрын

    Thanks bro. Would be aweosme to se some mid coaching too.

  • @krnzzang84
    @krnzzang848 ай бұрын

    No1 baby ❤❤❤

  • @thantzinmaung-yq6cu
    @thantzinmaung-yq6cu8 ай бұрын

    I think this is a good eye of skadi game. What do you think?

  • @michel53783
    @michel537838 ай бұрын

    could you make an offlane and support guide?

  • @healthadvice3091
    @healthadvice30916 ай бұрын

    What to do if your teammates is intentionally feeding or leaving the game?

  • @user-jz2tg8ec8w
    @user-jz2tg8ec8w6 ай бұрын

    Wow Thanks!

  • @AndreasKurz
    @AndreasKurz8 ай бұрын

    Very good points. Now I'd love your opinion on the following topic: Void is a hero that needs his team to play around him, right? Only fight if Chrono is up. Hit people inside Chrono and so on. That is a HUGE weakness for some carries in 2k bracket imo. Which heroes on your opinion can win on their own? I have fantastic expieriences with PL, Naga, Jugger. The first one is nigh unkillable if you don't have the right heroes late. The second one can farm fast even without team, has a great escape, can push 2 lanes without team and you have won in 2k as soon as one barracks falls top or bot. And the last one has a mini ult that allows him to fight early with team, great escape with first skill+tp and is strong throughout the game. Any more heroes that come to mind? Or any commtents to this list of heroes? Edit: Also about the Rosh thing. I KNOW - noone wants to take it. I ping it out after killing enemy team and lanes beeing pushed in - in 50% of the cases noone comes. So I also need a hero that is capable doing so alone efficiently.

  • @italosantacruzrocha799

    @italosantacruzrocha799

    7 ай бұрын

    I'm struggling with getting out of 2k but slowly progressing towards it and I usually win solo games if I get to farm enough with WK and Morphling as carry. You are right, void is not a great pick for low rank cause you need coordination with your team something is very rare that's why I don't pick it I hope I can get to 3k soon and start testing new heroes. Another heroe which I carry with very easily is Llifestealer.

  • @kuarimi5215

    @kuarimi5215

    7 ай бұрын

    PA bro, buy threads deso then divine then farm heroes for aghs. I'm dumb so don't take this advice seriously hahahaha. U would be forced to take rosh everytime it respawns and u would never be seen again in lanes once u get aghs except when u kill heroes

  • @user-si6vd3xt6k
    @user-si6vd3xt6k8 ай бұрын

    I’m confusing item builds everygame . Would u mind to help

  • @thenorthmen3148
    @thenorthmen31488 ай бұрын

    You kept saying creep timers.. at what times do the waves normally meet? Like in 20s and 40s?

  • @atillafatihunver617
    @atillafatihunver6174 ай бұрын

    39:45 no, the real case is that viper guy came from heaven KS that kill just to continue his role of pressuring void since start of the game :))D

  • @Spaco1
    @Spaco18 ай бұрын

    Very high quality analysis, thanks for this! I'd love to also see a video about turbo-specific strategies, if you have recommendations there.

  • @vincenzoh668
    @vincenzoh6688 ай бұрын

    it's insane how much LH and denies veno and viper got at min 5

  • @ifreezingblazegaming5178
    @ifreezingblazegaming51784 ай бұрын

    First 20 seconds of the video, I saw Viper + Veno laning against me, I feel like sht 😂

  • @philipphc6444
    @philipphc64448 ай бұрын

    Thats me letss gooo

  • @jamessheng1107
    @jamessheng11078 ай бұрын

    Hi, your video is great! I stuck around 6.5 k. Could u provide a high mmr carry guide?

  • @zrenk

    @zrenk

    8 ай бұрын

    Try buying new gaming chair 🪑

  • @nanzatbatorov8651
    @nanzatbatorov86514 ай бұрын

    What about his leveling, shouldn't he have put more points into timewalk so he can ignore the harass a bit more?

  • @Corey-mq1kr
    @Corey-mq1kr2 ай бұрын

    I HATE how low people value rosh at lower ranks. You can beg and beg and they won't do it

  • @khaldonalessa1141
    @khaldonalessa11415 ай бұрын

    Rosh, rosh, rosh, rosh XDDD srsly, some times the match ends och got won without niether the teams thinking about rosh, sadly. Well done dude!

  • @durere
    @durere4 ай бұрын

    23:40 ''Let's see what happen'' Spectre: wake up to reality

  • @jekkuz2453
    @jekkuz24537 ай бұрын

    i am stuck in 2k, because gaben doesn’t want to give me boost system even though i’m consistently winning against 3-4k average because i play party with devine

  • @Vetadota
    @Vetadota8 ай бұрын

    Pain i have a question.How can players hit the thing that is closest to them without clicking them?İs this a setting if yes where is it

  • @Colopty

    @Colopty

    8 ай бұрын

    Use an attack move command by pressing A and clicking the ground. There are settings for how the attack move works, use whichever setting you prefer. A neat thing about attack move commands is that if you've got stuff like Weaver bugs or Grimstroke ghosts attached to you, your hero will prioritize attacking it above all else, so it's a good way to get rid of those even if you've got enemies right on top of you (or just in general because it can be hard to click them precisely while a lot of stuff is going on)

  • @angeshbasnet1320
    @angeshbasnet13205 ай бұрын

    how can you coach 1v1. can you review my matches too?

  • @huehue6815
    @huehue68158 ай бұрын

    Genuine question. Isn't it just better to have circlet+slippers and queue wraith band to buy it immediately after bounty instead of circlet+slippers and 2 branches if you know you'll not get wand?

  • @PainDota

    @PainDota

    8 ай бұрын

    Ideally, you don't want to have unused gold in the sidelanes because there isn't a big item timing you are aiming for that you need to save for like bottle for mid as an example. Bounties give you 80 gold and with 2-3 last hits u can get ur wb

  • @huehue6815

    @huehue6815

    7 ай бұрын

    @@PainDota I see. Thanks d:

  • @lumjumsama3717
    @lumjumsama37178 ай бұрын

    What a dog venom combo lane I feel sad for him man😂😂

  • @straight2heaven_
    @straight2heaven_8 ай бұрын

    spectre guide please.

  • @james9331
    @james93315 ай бұрын

    “They have wenomancer, wiper, sniper, specter, and Varlock” Hahaha

  • @atillafatihunver617
    @atillafatihunver6174 ай бұрын

    46:10 funny thing warlock has his tp while you say that. You immortals think you know best, but actually not. you just got lucky and while you rank up with mentioned luck you learned game more. Mentioned luck is when your teammate drafts a support player, despised 2k players drafted with supports that actually plays carry.

  • @torontokntl
    @torontokntl3 ай бұрын

    how can i contact u for private coaching dudee? if its paid ill be glad for it

  • @PainDota

    @PainDota

    3 ай бұрын

    discord.gg/eVy3Yft6, you can join my discord & contact me through it

  • @Evilhunter-di9sg
    @Evilhunter-di9sg2 ай бұрын

    It's insane that me and this guy are in the same bracket wtf ?

  • @saeedmosavi5312
    @saeedmosavi53127 ай бұрын

    Bro it's so sad, I had last week 2200 MMR but i I lost 10-15 match in row coz of bad Team (noobs) I play most time support and I play perfect believe me! But everytime my team Ruin the game bad picks, bad build, blaming each other and ......I'm tired of this game idk what to do ,it's fucking long time that I stuck and can't grow coz of these shits and bad players. unfortunately u can't do shit coz of this game is team game even if u play well ther are 4 other player and u can't win the game alone.

  • @atillafatihunver617
    @atillafatihunver6174 ай бұрын

    Why meepo tips axe nonstop 😂 Tilting purpose?

  • @AlamNaDis1981
    @AlamNaDis1981Ай бұрын

    idk man, these safelaners are picking whatever they want as if its easy to accumulate gold. its always a race and if u will pick a hero without a farming skill then at least pick a safelane with good mobility so he can roam the map well, to back up in clash or cut lanes like anti mage. This void,unless u are a spammer is def fine, but if u are just randomly picking, might as well go for TA. she scale well at late game and its not hard to farm unless your team is really a pile of bolocks

  • @atillafatihunver617
    @atillafatihunver6174 ай бұрын

    1:09:20 i tell you theşr reason, all of them uses their tp to farm all roles...

  • @shaolinhabibi
    @shaolinhabibi8 ай бұрын

    10 times better than BSJ analysis , good job bro

  • @supratikpal4533
    @supratikpal45338 ай бұрын

    The main problem with void I see even in 5-6k bracket is chrono usage. Where high mmr players really hold their chrono for the appropriate target or not using it right away, lower mmr players dont understand that at all. I suggest to play void against od, venge, sd type of heroes and test ur chrono skills

  • @atillafatihunver617
    @atillafatihunver6174 ай бұрын

    viper is getting more and more gold, same momnet Viper's cs is 4 :D

  • @praenidd
    @praenidd8 ай бұрын

    It's funny because when I play with ancients, I play awesome as void because all because of your "15 year old owning pro" video. My current calibrate rank is crusader for reference, so that says a lot.

  • @Fate025
    @Fate0258 ай бұрын

    Moral of the story/video: TAKE ROSH.....

  • @adimiracle586
    @adimiracle5865 ай бұрын

    Can you analyze my video gameplay? I want to improve to. I'm a hard stuck Archon-Legend.

  • @keithquito225
    @keithquito2256 ай бұрын

    Me watching while having 770 mmr 😅

  • @dirtbagjr0

    @dirtbagjr0

    6 күн бұрын

    Me watching when I can’t play ranked yet

  • @thgod-ff5uq
    @thgod-ff5uq8 ай бұрын

    bro keep saying "Wiper"

  • @nothingtosay2288
    @nothingtosay22888 ай бұрын

    i have 500+ games with void . idk my my thinking style is right. but void is a very good first blood hero. his q can be used to catch , body block, put a tree to infront of enemy to change is walking animation to catch him . is my play style right or too risky

  • @cranky101

    @cranky101

    8 ай бұрын

    You're kidding , right? Lol

  • @eclxys

    @eclxys

    8 ай бұрын

    nah hes too squishy and doesn't provide much lvl 1 compared to heroes with reliable slow/stun/burst at the same lvl. its cool if u have the chance, but u still rely on better lvl 1 heroes on your team really

  • @brasileiroloko5375
    @brasileiroloko53756 ай бұрын

    i cant even get to 2k, lmao

  • @iBullydog
    @iBullydog8 ай бұрын

    At 2k I see meepo on my team I will GG Well Played and start a KZread video 😂

  • @silentstorm1509

    @silentstorm1509

    8 ай бұрын

    They’re r a rare few that play meepo and can actually do it I myself play micro hero’s at 2k on my smurf acc always wait n see imo

  • @kjyu

    @kjyu

    8 ай бұрын

    I'd honestly not mind that, what i mind is when people pick pudge for whatever reason, and proceed to miss every hook and make zero use of the hero. Bad enough that sometimes we just ban it so r*rds in our team cant pick it

  • @silentstorm1509

    @silentstorm1509

    8 ай бұрын

    @@kjyu lol I ban sniper for the same reason not because it’s a good hero but because I don’t want idiots on my team with the absolute worst positioning to play it and feed over n over

  • @TheMartinTD

    @TheMartinTD

    8 ай бұрын

    @@silentstorm1509and hopefully you get reported

  • @KoopDeGrace

    @KoopDeGrace

    8 ай бұрын

    Here's my Hispanic list of picks: Sniper Pudge Silencer Shadow Fiend Nature's Prophet Faceless Void Items: SHADOW BLADE

  • @jasonchristopheruy80
    @jasonchristopheruy805 ай бұрын

    the intro should be.. if your one of these guys.. then your ****

  • @kaidzz
    @kaidzz6 ай бұрын

    even divine players think that they should be immortal 🤣🤣🤣

  • @BrandynQuigley
    @BrandynQuigley7 ай бұрын

    Man. Ten years of videos like this. Why is it so hard to admit that as an individual you don't have a lot of agency in the game. You're 1/10 of the field, 1/5 of your team. For every mistake i make, i have 4 teammates each making at least one themselves... So yes. Some people are low because of their teammates. Idgaf what anyone says, unless you're 3x the mmr of what the game ranks you as, you can't singlehandedly win games in spite of bad teammates. I could be the best goal scorer in the world but that doesnt mean shit if my goalie spends the game behind the net. You're telling me that if the enemy scores a bunch of times on an open net, it's my fault? In any case you get as good as who you play with. Itemization, map awareness, game knowledge, positioning, farming mechanics - these are all easy skills. The problem is attitudes with a lot of players. Lack of teamwork. There are very few games that I've played that ended up being a loss because of me playing bad, making critical errors, griefing etc. A large percentage of my losses were due to baby teammates who throw by refusing to play their role or work with the team. Cuz ill be honest theres nothing in this video i didnt already know. Im just exhausted after years of trying to Sheppard my teammtes in the right direction.

  • @kwark1223

    @kwark1223

    7 ай бұрын

    Send match ID and let’s check your replays.

  • @EKKAXAY

    @EKKAXAY

    7 ай бұрын

    Queue with friends

  • @godemisempire8225
    @godemisempire82256 ай бұрын

    Thata not even a 2k thats just herald bruh

  • @lukeskywalker6641
    @lukeskywalker664129 күн бұрын

    Everything you said here doesn't matter the game is infested with smurfs from high immortal in all brackets and it is now pure rape and criminal behavior. Good luck garbage valve with your new updates.

  • @lukeskywalker6641
    @lukeskywalker66413 ай бұрын

    Thanks valve for 5 high immortal smurfs on the enemy team every single game even in unranked. Garbage trashcan company.

  • @officialstn3077
    @officialstn30778 ай бұрын

    You overrate 2k MMR sir. As a player sitting at 2050 mmr I think you guys think people have an IQ in this rank. Roshan isn't an option under 40minutes in 2k, until you get team wiped trying to HG, then your team wants to rosh it doesn't matter how many times u say or ping. Even if you look at minimap and call smokes because they are split with no tp, people in 2k DO NOT CARE and no plays will be made. You think if you just ping a smoke they will come, no that is false. When a game is at 45minutes and lets say we team wipe an enemy team, my team including supports will go jungle on our side of map instead of pushing waves or hg, then when I die solo mid and wonder why my supports are jungling on my side of map its my fault because im noob and throwing. Welcome to 2k. I'd pay you to coach me a session :) I would love to know what to do in half these games where it seems as if its my supports or mid who ruin the game. And low rank games last so long because people are just bad and can't farm or do plays. Its solo dota where u hope your team comes as 5 before the enemy does. I could carry and be 6 slotted 30-35mins but If i give to someone else they got 2 items in 40mins. That sir is 2k. It's also so interesting to see other 2k players, because im sure my areas of improvement are completely different than this guy. Lane mechanics like pulling away from viper and not using time lapse/wand is very obvious to me but not this guy apparently. But I will say I put 0 thought into spectre haunt at 6 so I definitely learned a lot watching still, thank you for the video sir.

  • @bmbm1
    @bmbm18 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately the teammates play a huge role at this rating since they make the game unplayable

  • @zrenk

    @zrenk

    8 ай бұрын

    Blame your teammates and u will never climb mmr

  • @bmbm1

    @bmbm1

    8 ай бұрын

    @@zrenk I mean if the enemy team has 20 kills in 12 minutes while I'm trying to farm my items that's not really something I can blame myself for

  • @arnazian

    @arnazian

    8 ай бұрын

    I think what you're missing is that enemy has 5 crappy team mates, you have 4 crappy team mates. As long as you are reliably farming / playing better than the enemy carry, you'll easily climb with a 60% - 85% win rate no matter what your team does, since the enemy is absolutely garbage.

  • @ProducShuns

    @ProducShuns

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@bmbm1Sure can, if you're AFK farming/not creating pressure/not doing anything on the map. Some games will be super hard to come back from with all lanes stomped, snowballing enemy heroes, etc. But guaranteed those games where you're saying 'enemy team has 20 kills in 12 minutes' - you're probably doing something wrong. Watch PainDota's explanation/analysis of the moves this void makes at 26-28mins. It's not just about farming, but about how you can farm and create pressure on the map, and when to show up to fights/understanding power spikes. But you can also blame your teammates, that's fine. You just won't gain MMR that way.

  • @sweetlovepotion37

    @sweetlovepotion37

    7 ай бұрын

    Not really, on my 2k smurf I can constantly get 20+ kills, they die so easily like a fly, I wonder if do they even use their brain when playing... Sorry if I sound kinda arrogant but that's how bad the player are and you don't even need to rely on your teammate that much

  • @gabriellelingatong9765
    @gabriellelingatong9765Ай бұрын

    you are overanalyzing stuff wtf

  • @navetaylor
    @navetaylor8 ай бұрын

    I love your videos. One small thing: can you please learn how to pronounce the letter 'V' instead of saying "Wiper" and "Faceless Woid"? It's incredibly infuriating. I understand accents and language barriers make things more difficult, but you're not even trying.

  • @azh2249

    @azh2249

    7 ай бұрын

    How does that matter? As far as you understand what hero he's talking about, it shouldn't bother you. Case is different if you have some kind of OCD though.

  • @navetaylor

    @navetaylor

    7 ай бұрын

    @@azh2249 because it annoys me when i hear it

  • @D2EvilDaveGG

    @D2EvilDaveGG

    3 ай бұрын

    It’s a south asian thing, I had my friends point out the same and I just can’t seem to hear it and only thing I do understand is if i forcibly say V with some vibration, it sounds correct 😂

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