Fans: “The writers hate Kai!” Zane: *Suffering mentally and physically*

The Ninjago fandom is so odd when it comes to focus ninja, honestly I’ve never cared about who the focus was from the start.

@naranjitabonita.620

2 жыл бұрын

me neither, just enjoy it.

@valhatan3907

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I'm just enjoying dynamic between characters, thats the best part of this show. The relationship.

@MrChampion2024

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's just fun to talk about

I think Jay's arc was very important because he learned that he can't always make things happen that he wants to happen. There are others involved in what he does, he has to accept that there are things out of his control, Nya choosing to be with him, being adopted, etc. In the end of the season Jay could save Nya with a wish but she took his hand of her own free will.

@ljeans531

Жыл бұрын

Personally I love Jay's season, but I'm prob bias because I really like Jay. But I also see how many people could dislike it.

Master of the Mountain is more about Cole learning/accepting that he has worth. In A LOT of previous seasons Cole feels like he's not good enough (Royal Blacksmiths in S1, being forgotten in DOTD, blaming himself in Ice chapter), but in MOM he is put by himself and has to trust in himself to lead the Upply and save everyone, and have people believe in him so that he can believe in himself. ... That is all.

@cookiemoon7441

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's emphasized by the way he reacts to not being able to learn the burst as well. He feels guilt whenever he can't live up to someone's expectations.

@horadetodososlegos

2 жыл бұрын

That's actually an interesting analysis, never thought of it

@gamejitzu

2 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile Cole shows off the merchandise in the back in the Pilots lol

@Emiturbina

2 жыл бұрын

That's why Vania was such a great addition, she appeared and started talking about how cool Cole is, and then scolded Wu for kinda giving up on him. Cole needed that direct support in his life, especially in such a vulnerable moment for him

Long before time had a name, the first spinjitsu master created ninjago, using 4 elemental weapons of crustation The sword of fiber The scythe of Coca Cola The nunchaku of ligma And the shurikens of Elsa When the first spinjitsu master oofed, a great evil sought out to collect them, lord grandmadon, so I, sensei uwu, sought out to find 4 idiots to collect them first.

@taigaforest2009

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Vivigreeny25

2 жыл бұрын

SENSEI UWU AGAGSG

@chispychisp1690

2 жыл бұрын

Avatar!?!!??!??

@edgyelectrokinetic6761

Жыл бұрын

"One ninja, shall rise above the others, and, become the Lean Ninja

Ok, but the “family/love interest” method was actually really interesting, and probably my favourite

@DetectiveWraith

2 жыл бұрын

My opinion is that, if it should be measured, this is one of the best ways.

@cookiemoon7441

2 жыл бұрын

Haha I find you yet again XD

I believe that Seabound is more about empathy rather than sacrifice. Nya starts the season being stubborn, not understanding that someone else might know better than she does, and learns to understand that. This is most apparent in the Wrath of Kalmaar where Maya points out a way to escape the pole and Nya almost dismisses her before realizing that the plan could feasibly work.

Season 13 shows how he is who he is. That season gives him a backstory. Not to improve him but to explain where it comes from. That's how some seasons work.

@ertooo4324

2 жыл бұрын

I would also argue that season 13 does give Cole development as it teaches him that he doesn’t have to only be the foundation of the team, but that he can fight on his own as well(as shown through Cole unlocking the Spinjitzu burst after deciding to create his own legacy rather than blindly parroting his mother’s).

@DgardsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Chapter 4, Season 12 is actually what it is.

@angrybirdstar

2 жыл бұрын

@@DgardsGaming you are a homophobe, is what it is. scurry off now

@DgardsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@angrybirdstar WTF are you on about, what has talking about Seasons got to do with anything like that.

@realbrickdojo

2 жыл бұрын

@@DgardsGaming they said it was season 13. The only chapters were season 11

I just want Jay to get a deeper character. It's literally so far just been comedic relief and serious side. He never progresses outside of that, almost every sjngle one of his arcs are more about reconciling Jaya for the third time again than it is about actually having him grow as a character that isn't dependant on Nya. I think it would be good if they stopped making Jay's character centered around Nya and just gave him something of his own that had nothing to do with her.

@PandorARGH

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@theonethatlovescartoons3196

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@ice_wolfie

Жыл бұрын

my man went insane because she died. that’s how much they attach him to nya (I’m not mad about that decision I just think it’s a stretch)

@cookiemoon7441

Жыл бұрын

@@ice_wolfie Yeah... he should have been shown getting over his grief instead. Like, grief is normal and healthy, but shutting yourself off in a lighthouse in the middle of the ocean for two years talking to glasses of water and repeatedly drawing your passed lover and hanging the paintings all over the place, all while neglecting self care? That... that does not seem healthy.

I think we can use the "Five Man Band" method for this, A trope that defines the archetypes of a team : Lloyd : Leader Jay : Lancer Kai & Nya : Heart Zane : Smart Guy Cole : Big Guy.

@ijustwatchthings9127

2 жыл бұрын

I love this method and I really like applying it to the Ninja BUT I will have to disagree with you and argue that JAY is the lancer and Kai/Nya have been the heart! Here’s why: in the earlier seasons, we see Kai as the leader, and since Nya was “the girl” she’s the heart. But once Lloyd entered the scene and became leader, I think Kai took on the role as Heart because of those grounding and empowering speeches about being brothers and I really think he’s been the glue holding people together. Sort of. And then Nya’s still a girl so… (please don’t smite me that was a joke, please-) As for Jay, as we see in Kittens mentions count method, Jay shows up as the second guy A LOT and I think that usually whoever ends up being the leader, whether it be Kai, or Lloyd, or kind of Nya in Seabound, they’re always the serious ones, and then Jay is the jokester that balances them out. That is my 5 cents, I hope you enjoyed

@iswiftyfox8997

Жыл бұрын

Basically Kai and Lloyd are the main character Jay is the comic relief Zane is the intelligent one Nya is the girl And Cole is there

Actually, I think the moral of season 3 was that anything in EXCESS was bad. Including technology. They had gotten so dependent on it that they were helpless when the Overlord started using that technology against them. Cyrus Borg even says that Zane was the perfect balance between them and technology.

In my opinion ninjago is less about character development and more about adventures and hero’s. I do love the small cole character arcs tho

12:22 actually it’s Kai because he trips Ronin and does a witty line lol

@ParachutingKitten

2 жыл бұрын

Kai might have a final punch alert??? 👀👀👀

@Emiturbina

2 жыл бұрын

@@sashawaybright2698 Oh, maybe you won't like the leaked sets names

I don't think the moral of Rebooted was "Technology bad" At Zane's funeral Cyrus Borg said, "...And then a Nindroid named Zane saved us all. He was the perfect balance between us and technology. He taught us that life should be a balance. Technology can improve our lives, but so can people. And if we focus on one at the expense of the other, that's when the balance is off." Sure, they could've leaned into that a bit more throughout the season, but then by the end of it they wouldn't really be learning the lesson, just restating it for the umpteenth time.

I agree rebooted isn't about Zane more on the team and Tournament of elements is about Teamwork rather than Kai.

This a great analysis of this topic. The fandom can get really heated over this (even myself included sometimes) so I like this more unbiased look to it and where you focused on the just the information we have. Honestly, I don’t even want a particular focus season I just want some good Zane content within any kind of season, since he is really neglected by the writers and hasn’t had anything since s4, Pixal has the same problem too.

@HiHi-lt1cb

2 жыл бұрын

YES poor Zane gets shafted to the side and is usually used for comic relief now :(( I mean he did get a bit in the Fire/Ice arc but THIS WAS NEVER ADDRESSED AGAIN!!

@IndigoIced

2 жыл бұрын

@@HiHi-lt1cb Agreed, the ice emperor arc he had in s11 gave him zero development and was poorly executed. Also, I hate the fact his whole personality now is just him being the “robot ninja” whereas before he was more aloof and didn’t understand social cues, and not defined by one sole concept.

@HiHi-lt1cb

2 жыл бұрын

@@IndigoIced EXACTLY now it just says a few lines usually about the statistics of stuff, wiping his entire personality and making him JUST a machine, NOT the "human" that they proved he was back in season one. I would have liked to see how he reacted after learning he was a tyrant in the Ice realm, but NOPE

Ive always had a feeling that Jay and especially Kai were the most focused characters in the og 7 seasons. Not because of development in Jays case (but def for kais) but mainly due to i just felt like they spoke and just DID more than every other character. Idk, i just felt like if someone was going to say something it would usually be one of them... And it kinda reflects the og intro with Kai first Jay second.

Cole's arc in MotM is that he has to believe in himself and the promise he made to his mother. Throughout the show Cole always puts others ahead of himself and MotM is about showing his value. Like even in Day of the Departed its Cole's friends returning for him that helps him defeat Yang.

@rug052

2 жыл бұрын

I do kinda agree we need less focus seasons, but i think motm and skybound especially capture a really personal feel that I don't get throughout the rest of the show. I mostly just chalk up s3 and s14 to just bad writing.

Dang this is really well done! Also I definitely have to agree with the conclusion about how it's more about the ensemble. Good stuff 👏

Another way is who is in front/center of the main posters of the seasons: Pilot - Kai Rise of the Snakes - Lloyd Rebooted - Zane Tournament of Elements - Kai Possession - Kai Skybound - Jay Hands of Time - Kai/Nya Sons of Garmadon - Lloyd Hunted - Wu March of the Oni - Garmadon Secrets of the Forbidden Spinjitzu - Lloyd Prime Empire - Jay Master of the Mountain - Cole Island - Lloyd Seabound - Nya Crystalized - Lloyd

Wow Kai has arguably the most screentime and focus but has no final punch. That is really sad. Although I dont know if I can really say "we need another kai season lol". The thing with Kai is he DOES have final punch a lot of the time, just not at the actual end. Pilot- could be when he tamed the dragon S1- When he created the idea to use the tornado of creation, or when he found out lloyd was the green nina S4- Destroying the staff S5- Either saving Lloyd in episode 8 or getting the sword back from morro in episode 6. S7- Fighting the time twins? Cant really call this a final punch, cuz it is a finale, but its not a punch. It wasnt concluded. So maybe Kai vs Ray? S11- Destroying the dragon.

Very great video! I think this is quite the interesting topic and I really appreciate your in-depth look into it. There's a lot to unpack here, so I'll go through a few points one by one. First off, I definitely agree that "focus ninja" isn't the exact correct term that should be used when describing these seasons, and I think that "most focused ninja" is probably the better term. I also definitely think your method of going through the transcripts provides(possibly) the most accurate look into determining the focus on each ninja for each season, and props to you for going through all that work. I think the only way we can truly top that is by timing each ninja's respective screen-time for each season in order to determine the "most focused ninja" of that season. Now, this method of course doesn't account for good, bad, or mediocre focus, but it is probably the most objective way possible in determining things(and I don't think quality really should be assessed here). Regarding the issue whether we should worry about "focus" seasons or not, I do somewhat agree. In seasons where the amount of focus on each ninja is truly quite mixed(even with one ninja primarily on the top), I feel that calling it a specific ninja's season takes away from the things that happen to the rest of the ninja in that season. For instance, if we call Possession a "Lloyd season", we are are essentially disregarding everything that happens to the rest of the main cast. The issue, however, is where we draw the line. In this case, we can't call any season of the show a focus season because that would mean that only one ninja appears onscreen for the entirety of the season. So maybe we should draw the line at development? This would probably then open up into other issues such as questioning whether or not a ninja truly developed in that season. Even then though, for seasons such as Skybound and Seabound where one character gets a large amount of development(with other ninja still focused on at the side to an extent), it's hard not to mark them as "focus" seasons due to how much the respective seasons did for their respective "focus" ninja. As for your main point, I'm kinda mixed. I do agree that the dynamics within the ninja team are extremely important, but I feel that we can definitely still have a prominent ninja in the front and others in the background. The weight of each ninja should also probably vary from season to season, as otherwise each season of the show would have the same dynamics without much setting things apart besides the new threat the ninja will have to face(which isn't what the show does right now). While I do think that it could be a gamble for some fans when watching a "focus season" for one ninja that they don't really care about, these seasons provide an opportunity for the character to become "better" for fans and thus it allows for fans to appreciate the team more as a whole by appreciating that specific member of the team more(I personally have seen many instances of people becoming Jay fans after Skybound and Nya fans after Seabound). Even in regular "team seasons", the purpose of improving the "team" as a whole for the viewer also shows up as the "team season" may also try to highlight the team's dynamics or briefly develop one of its members. Basically, I feel that both "focus" and "team" seasons share the same goal regarding the main characters but through different means: to improve the team as a whole in the eyes of the viewer. Regarding the next point: I feel that many people watch the show to see their specific favorite ninja shine in their unique and specific ways and hope to see their favorite ninja develop. There are, of course, many others who watch the show for the team dynamics and to see how the team progresses as a whole. In the grand scheme of things though(this is my own opinion which is probably not shared by many), I don't think the perception of a season within the eyes of the fan matters that much, and that our own perceptions of each season's quality is what's most important. The fact that Ninjago has a wide variety of focus, plots, and concepts in general allows for a wider audience to find something to enjoy in it. So I think that the seasons where mainly the team's dynamics are highlighted do allow for perhaps the best "general" reception of fans of the show, but perhaps they don't stretch the boundaries of the show as much. Now, the last thing here that I think is interesting to discuss is the character arcs of seasons. I personally feel that, in most cases, the show is able to succeed in executing a character arc(with varying levels of quality) that builds on a character. Regarding the specific arcs that you pointed out in this video, I do think that most of them still do add something to each of their respective characters. (Jay's was already talked about and I honestly can't find a way to defend Zane's, so I'll only be briefly talking about Nya/Cole's here). The way I see it, season 13 develops Cole by no longer making him just the "foundation" of the team, but also someone who can fight by himself. His reliance on his mother throughout the season is quite clearly shown up to the point where his mother's blades break, but Cole's discovery that he should make his own legacy rather than simply following his mother's legacy is what allows him to unlock the spinjitzu burst. As for Nya's arc in Seabound, I believe that Nya realizes that it's sometimes beneficial to lose control over something(in the sacrifice's case, her entire humanity) in order to benefit either herself or the greater good. This is a direct contrast to her throughout the rest of the series, where she is unrelenting in getting what she wants through hard work and determination; basically, the arc explains that she cannot always achieve total control and giving up things can result in benefits. The reason why I say that season 5's arc for Nya doesn't overlap with this one is that it mostly focused on changing her path instead of losing something in order to achieve success(her true potential has the "lose" idea, but the way the arc is executed seems much more like her realizing that it's okay to change course). This brings me to my final point, which is that I feel that these season-long arcs almost always exceed in quality and its goal compared to brief, one-episode arcs. Let's take Lloyd's arc in Hunted for instance: rather than simply saying that Lloyd needs to lead, not give up, and change himself in a general way and having him immediately accomplish those feats after a quick realization, the season puts him through several different "tests" that force him to better understand these ideas(and thus allowing for the viewer to also get a better understanding of these ideas). For instance, in episode 93, Lloyd learns that he should give up protecting the city in order to give himself a better chance of holding out rather than just having him constantly "not give up". Basically, I feel that these season-long arcs provide much better complexity and depth to the ideas that they try to explore. This doesn't necessarily mean that the quick and short arcs throughout the seasons are bad, but they just don't have the potential to be as interesting due to the large difference in screen time.

@angrybirdstar

2 жыл бұрын

you should probably check what happened in Ep93 because Lloyd decides against leaving town even with Dareth and Nya opposing him

@ertooo4324

2 жыл бұрын

@@angrybirdstar He still decides to go for the battlewagon first though, meaning that he would temporarily leave the spot in the city where they can’t keep track of Garmadon’s colossus(the reason why Lloyd didn’t want to leave the city in the first place).

@gry1010

2 жыл бұрын

@@ertooo4324 Lloyd didn't want to leave because he wanted to protect the city. He goes for the Battle Wagon because it's better protected, but refuses the leave the city.

@realcbox

Жыл бұрын

My man be writing a book

@iswiftyfox8997

Жыл бұрын

I just like to simply say pilot-7 Kai main character 8-present Lloyd main character

This is actually a great topic! Can't wait to listen...

@JuwGus

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, so now that I watched it I have to say I agree. We need to get rid of the focus seasons.

23:23-24:12 And that's exactly what the movie did! Loving this new style of video, it's exactly what we need! Keep up the great work, can't wait to see more of these!

Oh man I need more vids like this from you!! I love just listening to ppl talk about things, or controversys while I work

I think what Cole learned in his season is that he should do his own thing and not try to live up to the standards that his mom unintentionally set for him. Hence why the swords broke, cuz he doesn't need to walk in her footsteps

I’ve always said this about Kai. He was def the main character by far and it’s not even close before the movie and the Redesigns. After that it shifted towards Lloyd definitely, but overall he either has equal most or second most amount of focus. If anything Zane needs another season the most.

15:40 oh thats cool, i tought you were rewatching episodes all over again😅

Absolutely loved this video! Thank you for sharing your opinion with us, and for the work you did to research the methods uses to find the "focus ninja" I love spreadsheets xD And also agree with lots of things you said in the video. And final vote, for a Pixel focus season, YES PRETTY PLEASE!

This was a really well made video. Absolutely loved all the areas you explored regarding focus ninja. Great vid!

Everything would be right in the world of there was a Pixal season

@taigaforest2009

2 жыл бұрын

True fact.

@arrowskywalkertheweirdo

2 жыл бұрын

I would love a Pixel season

Heck yeah, P.I.X.A.L. season please, I've been saying it for years!

@taigaforest2009

2 жыл бұрын

Yeaaa P.I.X.A.L season!

"Focus Ninja is something that we created" Tommy Andersan, The show's creator: "Season 4 focus is Kai"

Lego kinda sparked this themselves, theming their boxes in a certain way or with a different ninja leads people to think Lego "picks" a focus/mascot for every wave. It's not true in the show, but the sets give conflicting information And yes, free Pixal

YOU COULD HAVE NEVER SAID IT BETTER!!! I LOV ETHIS SO MUCH THE PRODUCTION VALUE ON THIS IS AMAZING< LITERALLY SAID THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH< GOOD JOB

Us Ninjago fans are...complex to say the least. But seriously, I'm really enjoying this new take on your channel. Keep up the good work

I personally prefer team seasons like for example season 5. Kai gets a big arc, Nya gets a big arc, Cole gets a mini arc, Lloyd gets a mini arc. Jay and Zane don’t really have arcs but the main story of season 5 involves the 4 of them. Everyone has something to do. Even other characters like Wu Misako and most notably Ronin.

Such a good video essay!!! Love this format

i want a dareth season. let me rephrase that. we all need a dareth season

I feel like they only put Cole in the intro of season 10 is out of necessity because they wouldn’t be doing it again and Cole was the only one that hasn’t done it yet

@iswiftyfox8997

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it was because coles the only one that didn’t do it. That’s literally the only reason, otherwise it would’ve been garmadon or Lloyd

I really like the style of this video, you should do more like it.

Thank you SOOO MUCH for the hard work you put into this video!

I was really enjoying this analysis... Up until the last five minutes. You are really short selling Cole's development. Both Day of the Departed and Master of the Mountain (the "Cole seasons") have central themes of Cole being around death or being related to death. In both of them Cole ends up grappling with the question of weather or not he'd be remembered when he's gone (his friends forgetting him in DoTD and the Geckles/Munce remembering his mother in MoM.) Given all the foreshadowing in the show that Cole is going to (permeantaly) die before any of the other ninja, that has to be an intentional element of his character that the seasons are trying to highlight.

wow such an awesome video !! ive never seen anything like this for ninjago before :o i seriously agree with ur thoughts on zane and his weird human vs robot arc in s3 (even earlier parts in the season were stressing how human he was compared to the other robots ?? lol) as well as jay in skybound but i kinda disagree w ur opinions on cole and nyas arcs for me personally cole's arc seemed more of a continuation of the plot threads set up in s11 and even as early as "the royal blacksmiths"... of him being afraid of letting others down. which is why he got so frustrated at being unable to perform the burst at first and struggles with leading the upply. it also goes more into his relationship with wu which grew during s9 and kinda resolves some implied baggage to do with his mother... learning more about her and coming more to terms with her death and the fact that even tho she was a great hero.. he is too!! and he can live up to her legacy nya IS very stubborn like you said... but i think that's exactly her problem in both s5 and s14. the reason she's unable to tap into her water powers isn't because it's too hard or anything... it's because she's trying TOO hard for it and that goes against the nature of water. i also think she was too hung up on wanting to be samurai x still. same goes for s14.. it wasnt that she had to learn to make hard decisions, it was that she had to accept she can't always brute force her way to a solution... and sometimes there is no good answer. her sacrifice at the end wasn't something she was unwilling to do.. in fact she was so willing to do it she made the decision to merge while the others were still asleep and couldn't stop her. it seems to me that her arc was more about her relationship with her mother and accepting that sometimes things are out of her control at least thats my personal take on those two arcs!! but yeah we... really need to ditch the focus season concept i just miss seeing the ninja all interact together LOL... my fav parts of s13 were literally the sideplots with kai/zane and lloyd/jay/nya.. but hopefully next season gives us some more good good ensemble content :]

This video is really good! And I totally agree that the seasons going forward should focus on the whole team

In my own opinion, I personally never had an issue on the focus ninja(s) since honestly I never really cared because each ninja had their moments regardless of the amount of screen time they have. However, the one thing I will admit if I was gonna give at least one complaint is that if Wu was the main focus on a few occasions, why not let Pixal have a chance to shine? Since Wu technically isn’t a ninja but would be interesting to see if they will let Pixal have focus since Nya is the literal ocean now and since I assume she wouldn’t be a ninja for a while, why not Pixal have a focus for a bit? And heck, since she’s always hanging out with Wu while everyone else is doing their duties they can share a focus for a bit if they needed to. Edit: Also, I forgot to say is that the only closest thing I can think of is the sub plot of Prime Empire where Zane, Wu, and Pixal were looking for information about the game creator which honestly I love that and maybe they could make a season like that where Wu and Pixal was a focus similarly to that. If you know what I mean.

pretty sure the whole "focus" thing only came out of the toys having a guy in the corner and the show having a character in the opener (for the first 5 or so seasons). if this precedent wasn't set we would've avoided 300+ hours of meaningless drivel

Okay, but can we all agree that Pixal getting more screen time would make her feel like more of an “official” part of the team. I just wish she would be more involved in the main mission instead of having a side role like in s11, s12, and s13... Tbh really all of the newer seasons. Pixal just needs more love. #giveusmorepixal

Really nice video, it was fun to see the different methods

When I first watched march of the oni and I saw cole do the previously on Ninjago. I got insanely excited cuz I thought cole would finally get a focus. (Coles my favorite ninja)

Well for the island Lloyd’s main motive for going to the island is to rescue Misako so Lloyd season

Honestly I like this topic not necessarily as an argument to be had for the rest of time itself, but seeing people do real deep dives into, basically anything Ninjago related is really fun and cool to me. Even if it is something genuinely pointless like focus ninja, i love to see it.

i didnt like cole that much but season 13 changed that hes my favourite (second to jay) i feel like focus ninja are important because they change how fans look at the ninja and others

I honestly still think of Kai as the main character until the movie came around but Kai being the main character is kind of what makes it a good show because he’s not the chosen one.

@iswiftyfox8997

Жыл бұрын

This is how i see it First chapter- (green ninja destiny) pilot- s2, main characters are the 4 og ninja and then Lloyd. But overall it’s Kai. Second chapter (exploration chapter) 3-7 main character is Kai, although everyone gets a season (except Lloyd) this chapter so it’s pretty even for second place. Third chapter (oni trilogy) seasons 8-10 Lloyd is the main character no one else can really compare Fourth chapter- wildbrain saga- Lloyd is the main character although it is pretty evenly split again. So 2011-17 Kai main character 2018- current lloyd main character It’s kinda crazy how the movie literally made Kai prolly the least important character considering he was the main character by far at the time and prolly had close to double Lloyd’s screentime (due to pilot season 1, season 5 etc where Lloyd’s not really there much)

@theflingthing21

Жыл бұрын

@@iswiftyfox8997 Yeah I prefered kai as the main character cuz that was what made the show interesting was that the main character wasn't the chosen one

YESSSS GIVE PIXAL A SEASOON

After Wildbrain took over, it makes more sense to display it as to who says the episode name in the intro.

I totally agree with you and I definitely see what you are saying ~ Now that I think of it, I think I agree, focus seasons should be gone. Btw, beautiful job in this video, it’s so well put.

Your dedication to this is impressive

Yes your back 🤩

@ParachutingKitten

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't leave you guys for too long! 😉

The main character does not have always to *receive* some kind of life lesson. Sometimes his task is to *teach* a lesson to the viewer. For example, Zane shows that protecting friends, family and loved ones is worth any sacrifice.

Guys we need another nya season Its been around 7 months since we've seen her in a full season we need another one

Dragons Rising: Wiki: team Box: Arin Intro: Sora Final punch: I'd say Sora Kitten method: team/Sora Word document: I don't have it

The All Powerful Word Document counting feels like Eurovision vote counting 😃😃

In my humble opinion Season 1: Kai (im counting pilots as a part of season 1 because realistically its stupid that they arent and youtube counts them as the same) Season 2: Im gonna say lloyd but I hope yall know lloyd hardly did anything this season till the very end but Im not really counting fillers because nobody cares about them so lloyd Season 3: Zane Season 4: Kai Season 5: Kai Season 6: Jay second place Nya Season 7: Kai second place Nya Season 8: Lloyd Season 9: Wu and Lloyd Season 10: Lloyd Season 11: i guess lloyd Season 12: Jay Season 13: Cole Season 14: Nya (Im counting the island and Seabound as one because they should be the island is just basically a setup for seabound and I think netflix counts them as the same season) (DOTD: Cole, although in my headcanon i like to consider DOTD to be a part of season 7, this one makes less sense than the pilots and the island but it sets up Krux and the museum, introduces the new ninja base, has cole become human and learn RX, and touches on kai and nyas parents a bit. It also makes more sense to put it at the start of season 7 than at the end of season 6 cuz it has nothing to do with season 6 and it would ruin season 6s ending.) (also the ninja start of season 7 cleaning the museum from the aftermath of DOTD) its kinda sad how id still consider Kai to be the main character tied with Lloyd and how he has the most seasons but yet he doesnt have a single final punch I guess his final punch in season 1 is in episode 10 I guess his final punch in season 4 is in episode 7 I guess his final punch in season 5 is episode 8 I guess his final punch in season 7 is I honestly have no clue, it just never felt finished we need to finish this storyline. I guess maybe when he fought his father?!?!

Omg I love you. You're an amazing youtuber

Love these type of vids

to be honest, i always did like trying to count which character gets the least or most "focus" seasons but that's mostly because i think i have a tendency to try and count trivial things and notice trivial patterns in general, i never really thought of it as a good or a bad thing and i'm honestly kind of surprised people make as much of a big deal qut of a character having "too little" focus seasons or taking "too long" to get one as they do

Crystalized: Wiki: Lloyd Intro: Crystals Box: Lloyd Final punch: Lloyd was commanded a dragon created by the Og Ninja. So, I guess Lloyd/Team Your method: most of the ninja had focus on romance stuff (Lloyd & Harami, Kai & Skylor, Jay & Nya, Zane & Pixal). But Lloyd is the only one who had focus on family. Answer: Lloyd/team I am too lazy to repeat your trick with word doc, but I think it's save to say that Lloyd had more screentime than any other. Answer Lloyd Result: Lloyd

Kitten: «All we need to end the focus ninja debate is a Kai/Zane season» Me: So, if Season 11 had been better written, the focus ninja debate would be over by now

I really love an essay video with fully-grown adult talking about kid show

Great and elaborate discussion. On a completely different note I'm confused about your bed that has wheels but stand on pillars?

Skybound is the most obvious ninja-focus season, and Tournament of Elements is the least obvious.

11:43 My gosh you describing the ending like that reignited my hatred for that season

i was a big fan of s15 until i really sat down and analyzed it. why is the climax of the story about nya making a big sacrifice, like she hasn't already done that before? i mean... s5? s6? s12? she has already put her wants, needs, & life on the line for much lesser stakes, so why is this the ~lesson~ she has to learn? what would have been a better arc for her would be about accepting her imperfection, to not allow her mistakes to devalue herself. that would not only be authentic to her character's history, but also a great thing for young kids to see played out onscreen.

Day of the departed does have cole's dad being like. Sit sadly on corner waiting for his son. Directly making it a focus that Cole's not there n singling out cole n his dad

I loved this video, thank you for making it. I laughed several times which I doesn’t always happen when I watch KZread. You’re seriously one of my favorite youtubers. Although I do participate in this debate on occasion because I think it’s neat to discuss, I think you argue some really excellent points! Especially at the very end. I liked it when you pointed out Coles focus episodes, and summarized the character arcs, even the ones that sucked a little. Also thank you for not saying season 11 was a Kai/Zane season, because it kind of annoys me when people argue that. They got like 0 screen time 😬 I love how your channel has evolved, keep up the amazing work!

Hey dude! Fun video

Wth, justice for zane! (I've never watched ninjago before lmao I've just been watching these ninjago videos for some reason)

I've legit thought this for so long and you put all my thought's into one video. Thank you, now nobody can bring this dumb debate up on which ninja gets which season.

The show is about them all with the seasons yielding the "main" ninja. To me all seasons were amazing. Because I love all the ninja sure coles my favorite and I'm biased a bit. But I enjoy all seasons. The only reason they each get their main season is for development of that character. They separate it in seasons so they all get that good development to make them better

Zane dies so much

No forcing, but could you repost evil runs?The song you made about garmadon. its your choice,just requesting!

@ParachutingKitten

2 жыл бұрын

it's already up kzread.info/dron/bsbgJAlAp96RvKtaA7G1Tg.html

I only really like a focus character season if they give good character developments. Thats also how i sort of which season goes to who. I enjoy master of the mountain due to Cole's development, Seabound I enjoy Nya's development and some of the other seasons! (Kai and Zane need a season like those btw because theirs were so halfassed they never got proper development or learned anything) I suggest watching Dexile Jj and Bendobricks videos abt their opinions on those seasons as I agree with what they said and how theyve explained it. So those seasons go to them. I wouldve loved for more Ninja seasons as well as I believe development between the group is important and seeing how they interact and cared for eachother sets up that character development later. Season one in my opinion screwed that up as it was like a one time ep thing were it was solely focused on the plot and thats why the characters were given focus by not just the ep but the characters around as after zanes true potential they moved on directly to the next character. This gave barely any interactions and it sets up the rest of the show like this. They thrived on a one person sole focus due to plot and so when they attempt to focus on the group, they fail. (Sorry for the long read but i hope my point comes across, i agree with a lot of your views in here and also i believe the amount of times they said their name was mostly them yelling at kai for being and idiot or because the character was doing something unexpected)

This is so fun

So, if we look at data as a whole we get next: Pilots: Kai, that's obvious Rise of the Snakes: 2 points for team, 2 points for Lloyd, but because wiki and your method are more accurate imo, I'd say it is *team* Legacy of the Green Ninja: obviosly Lloyd Rebooted: Zane Tournament of Elements: Kai Possession: again 2 points for team and 2 for Lloyd, but since he was not with the final punch or the most mentioned it's fair to say *team* season Skybound: Jay Day of the Departed: Cole Hands of Time: Kai/Nya Sons of Garmadon: Lloyd Hunted: we have 2 points for team, 2 for Wu and 2 for Lloyd. So, because every og's ninja focus was about Wu I think it is *Wu/Lloyd* season March of the Oni: again, we have 2 points for each team and Lloyd. And this time I really can't decide. So, team/Lloyd Secrets of the Forbidden Spijitzu: Team Prime Empire: Jay Master of the Mountain: Cole Island: I tired talk about 2 points, so, just *team* Seabound: Nya Crystalized: It came out after this video, but I am sure it is Lloyd's season

i think the focus would just be the ninja with the biggest character arc

@iswiftyfox8997

Жыл бұрын

So that’s prolly Kai or Lloyd, maybe Zane but prolly Kai or Lloyd.

Im pretty sure that season 1 intro character is supposed to be kai in the green ninja suit.

Maybe the focus is just on who gets more focus, more story, more of a character ark.

Saying season 3 and 6 are the most hated seasons I think season 7 is the most hated season of the first 7 and that one is kinda a “team” season. Plus I’d say Zane got like so little development in season 3 that it’s more of a team season than a Zane season like you said you said Kai way more than Zane peoples problems with rebooted it that it’s not really a Zane season.

@PandorARGH

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say s3, S7 and s11 are the most hated

@iswiftyfox8997

Жыл бұрын

I just recently rewatched season 3 and I’ll say this. Zane has by far the most amount of character development. He gets to do the important stuff basically. However Kai has more screentime than him only because they’re in the group of 4 for so much of the season and when they are in the group of 4 it’s Kai who is like the leader. And plus Kai has the half episode long mindroid car chase scene So although Kai technically is the main character of season 3, he’s really not, Zane does most of the important stuff the other ninja are just there

Can you maybe rank all the Ninjago episodes? That would be really awesome.

Are you excited for season 16? And also I really miss your every time someone says videos 😣 I really miss your old content ☹️☹️

@ParachutingKitten

2 жыл бұрын

No need to miss, it's all coming back! kzread.info/dron/bsbgJAlAp96RvKtaA7G1Tg.html

@taskeen_xd

2 жыл бұрын

@@ParachutingKitten Yay!! Wow I got noticed too 😱

Here's my perception of the focus characters of the seasons (will include other characters besides the ninja) Pilots: Kai Season 1: Team Season 2: Lloyd Season 3: Zane Season 4: Kai Season 5: Lloyd Season 6: Jay Season 7: Kai and Nya Season 8: Lloyd Season 9: Lloyd and Wu Season 10: Team+ Wu and Garmadon Season 11: Kai and Zane Season 12: Jay Season 13: Cole The Island: Lloyd Season 14: Nya

@DerPizzabroetchen

2 жыл бұрын

Those are the mascots

@dvqjacks7735

2 жыл бұрын

Through my eyes whoever has the biggest conflict, or the most going on it the focus character

@vesha6274

2 жыл бұрын

Some seasons like 5, 9 and 11 don't have a determined focus ninja

@silverselkie1692

Жыл бұрын

@@vesha6274 I was gonna say, Lloyd's in less than half of season 5. The season made a point about how little Lloyd was involved.

I think it says a lot though that with all the mentions of Kai he got very little in the way of development that stuck, so him being mentioned so much almost makes it worse

24:28 that made laugh so hard and I don’t know why

Lol I just woke up and U just uploaded lo

I agree with every word, and when you say give pixal a season, the most obvious line in the world

This kai thing aged well with dragons rising s2

15:13 hasdfjlj I actually you just had the entirety of Ninjago memorized or something....

We care about who's the focus of each ninja because it's fun to talk about

I can agree