When they get to 50%, thats when real panic will set in.

@rusruz1331

2 ай бұрын

dude ,even 100% so what ? its just write for you right code ,your job is just copy paste in correct place and understand a bit ,just like 5 years ago but with google .This is real developer job -copy fucking paste ,and if u think its wrong or too easy to be true ,then u didn't see real work )

@lengors7327

2 ай бұрын

Not even then. Doing 50% of a job correctly without human assistance isnt enough for companies to rely heavily on AI.

@timetraveller2300

2 ай бұрын

@@rusruz1331 it evolves faster than you think.

@dab6923

2 ай бұрын

​@@rusruz1331it was developed 6 months ago.

@LifeWithRilla

2 ай бұрын

It needs to be at 100% and better than humans to replace developers. Also, the thing is even with AI we assume there is going to be a need for less developers in a world that is becoming hyper efficient and where change is happening at a faster rate than ever in human history. Where people are making more money than ever. The simple fact is companies don't have a ceiling on how much money they want to make. So, I don't see there being a need for "less" developers. Maybe "less" per company who have a theoritical cieling of how much they could make on their product or services based on market conditions or some other factor. But, the "exponential" companies of the future have no cieling meaning they'll need to HIRE MORE not less. So, they're going to be hiring more productive developers to release more features and provide MORE VALUE per developer. I don't see this being a career ender until AI can do everything a human can do simply said.

Devin is the "The day before" of AI

If we are not able to adapt we for sure lose, be water my friend.

We actually shouldn't panic about any replacement whatsoever.. As Software developers, it inspires us to push our limits.. If I am to be replaced in the future by a so called AI tool, I should see it as an avenue for progress, because I would have to move further and learn something more challenging.

As a CTO or Team lead I would not have autonomous agents contribute to my project without supervision by expert devs. There is no one to be held responsible if things go wrong, no ass to kick. It can surely build small microservices but it always needs to be supervised, double and triple checked, sames as a junior dev.

@dennycrane2938

2 ай бұрын

Junior Dev... Indian contractor... same thing. I think you just identified the danger zone.

Devin is going to write some dogshit spaghetti code that's unmaintainable and if you ever have to hire someone to come in and patch it it's going to be a bigger money and time sink than hiring two experienced devs in the first place who can interpret generative code when it's generated and implement and tweak as needed.

@underflowexception

2 ай бұрын

just like wordpress.. but wait wordpress powers most of the web.. clients dont care what the code looks like as long as it works and eventually AI will get to the point where it's producing ugly but working code

@devinlauderdale9635

2 ай бұрын

@@underflowexception yeah that only applies to stateless applications or applications with static content like blogs, introduce any sort of complexity and they will care.

@underflowexception

2 ай бұрын

@@devinlauderdale9635I think eventually application frameworks are going to be created around AI so it will be easy to create complex applications... time will tell.

Note about Upwork job, it was posted 3 days ago.

@joshtriedcoding

2 ай бұрын

Hmmm interesting

@danielli3288

2 ай бұрын

??? this is very common in upwork, job offers are very recent and old ones fall to the back

facts ! I don't understand the hype tbh, I mostly see subpar devs complaining just be curious and keep on improving

I think we can agree that we have officially entered the AI bubble. First, you have the startups pitching the next best LLMs, backed by roughly the same technology, just marketed slightly differently. Second, you have big corporations wanting to optimize their costs and replace as much humans as possible. Because for them every penny saved is a penny earned. Goes without saying, this is a pipe dream. Third, you have the investors throwing money at anything that's AI. Remember crypto bubble, its looking frighteningly similar. The only real difference compared to any other previous tech bubble is that this time around there are big players in the game, Google, Microsoft etc. When it pops, and it certainly will unless there is some groundbreaking technological breakthrough that miraculously fixes all the shortcomings, the fall out is going to be ugly.

@userre85

2 ай бұрын

Groq is a unique one.

I saw this video 1years ago in my dream and I wrote the exact comment and this is it we are all screwed. It is so raw and exact thing I saw how is this possible.

Im Never worried, none of the LLMs can do good Cobol code. Same with mainframe issues

@timothywcrane

2 ай бұрын

It goes in the opposite timeline as well. I'm sorry I do not know what a Longsoon socket is. You may need to call the dealer. My data cutoff date is September 2022.

every week they say this new thing will steal my job, getting boring already tbh, I cant event trust those tools to write simple boring code without need to double check and sometimes getting ridiculous mistakes.

@ScottJohnson-cf8fk

2 ай бұрын

You say that it's making mistakes today but what about a year or 2 from now? That's the point in the minds of people worried it could steal jobs eventually

@the_alien293

2 ай бұрын

@@ScottJohnson-cf8fk 200 from years now it wont do shit,,trust me AI just vomit out codes,,and development is not limited to vomiting code

@Memes_uploader

2 ай бұрын

​@@ScottJohnson-cf8fkabsolutely agree, Sora is great example, one year and it is works great, another year and it replaces content creators

@aryanshrivastav9816

2 ай бұрын

Nah bro its real this time.

@userre85

2 ай бұрын

It used to be a lot worse when gpt-1 came out. It's now leaps and bounds ahead. I'm crossing my fingers on the death of Moore's law.

josh what are your thoughts with anthropic's claude v3. It is better than any LLM in code related stuff

I love your channel thank you for your work 😊

very nice your answer man about devin

When I found out something like Devin, I was honestly worried. But on second thought, let time pass by. I just want to watch and take notes

Don't sweat it! AI tools like Devin are cool, but our human creativity and problem-solving skills will always be in demand in the software engineering world. We've got this!👍

@manhoovy193

2 ай бұрын

Lets hope

Trust me when there is a competitor against you a strong one it means you are on the right path. "you will only hit traffic when you are on the right path to go"

we have billion users using millions software programs each containing average thousand bugs. hope ai can close 3-5 y.o tickets at my job letting me focus on implementing new stuff and do business logic. i dont see how ai can decide between differen5 ways of doing things one particular way and based on whatthose decisions will be? business owners themselves cant explain what they need so we professional devs have to guess and help them out. ai can be a tool of developer but not a replacement of developer lol

The comparison to calculators and mathmaticians was actually pretty spot on.

Lets check how much he can entertain us.

It looks like Daven joined recently software engineering and start to make living with it ...

how to get an access of devin?

When I talk to people about AI the first thing I tell them it's not a calculator. First day say it's not able and then it's not creative but creativity is least of its problems and ability is increasing. And nobody is saying that the beak is near. All in all it will replace jobs but that is a good thing because some sort of universal income thing will have to be figured out

My friends and I were debating about this, this morning, this is a super cool tool, but, in my personal opinion, I don't think this would fully replace devs.

@joshtriedcoding

2 ай бұрын

in this state, most probably not. Interestingly, at least as far as I know, it still builds on top of GPT-4 and is not a standalone model, just with a lot of glue code and filters

@princewillbeluonwuogbo2488

2 ай бұрын

But how about it becomes open source and with time it is then improved upon and then have a 80% chance to replace Devs.

@peteroye1216

2 ай бұрын

​@@princewillbeluonwuogbo2488then we go back to farming 😂😂

@LifeWithRilla

2 ай бұрын

@@princewillbeluonwuogbo2488 It needs to be at 100% and better than humans to replace developers. Also, the thing is even with AI we assume there is going to be a need for less developers in a world that is becoming hyper efficient and where change is happening at a faster rate than ever in human history. Where people are making more money than ever. The simple fact is companies don't have a ceiling on how much money they want to make. So, I don't see there being a need for "less" developers. Maybe "less" per company who have a theoritical cieling of how much they could make on their product or services based on market conditions or some other factor. But, the "exponential" companies of the future have no cieling meaning they'll need to HIRE MORE not less. So, they're going to be hiring more productive developers to release more features and provide MORE VALUE per developer. I don't see this being a career ender until AI can do everything a human can do simply said.

The problem is, a normal person can't use it. To use a software engineering tool, you need to understand what software engineering is so you could properly use the software engineering tool

@ShubhankarSharma-vr6zg

2 ай бұрын

Hell yeah buddy, convinced me a bit, one who doesn't know how API calls work, databases and all, how they will prompt it, but ig junior devs are done for sure 😢 Ig it's a senior engineer market rn, and as a future 2k26 graduate, i won't get any job bcz of no exp and junior dev stuff is already seized by such models, what's ur take?

@JeanBaptisteChabi

2 ай бұрын

@@ShubhankarSharma-vr6zg that is the thing man, although we think it is a senior market, how many people are able to afford paying for seniors if not big companies. For some solo entrepreneur launching their projects or a non governmental organization needing a project, juniors will always have their chances. Being junior doesn't necessarily mean incapable of building a good application, many people understand that and that's why if you are not aiming for big techs companies to hire you, you will always have your chance

@ShubhankarSharma-vr6zg

2 ай бұрын

@@JeanBaptisteChabii get your bit, but what dyt about the probability of finding such startups, do they aggresively hire if we chit chat a bit with them on X, etc and show our calibre of producing something commendable, i don't have much xp about that, have you gone through it by yourself?

@JeanBaptisteChabi

2 ай бұрын

@@ShubhankarSharma-vr6zg off course, the thing is everything require a sacrifice. I built websites web apps for many locals, completely for free, they cover the hostings off course, but in return I got a portfolio full or real projects, not just some clones of existing project and through opinion of those alone, it becomes easy and easy for me to find freelance job as I show reals projects whenever I apply for a jobs. So, you see, at that point, the year of experience or status didn't matter anymore, because I have projects showcasing my skills. And one more thing, you won't believe it if you see the amount of locals and solo entrepreneur who will give you the the project they planned when you offer to build in for free.

@ShubhankarSharma-vr6zg

2 ай бұрын

@@JeanBaptisteChabifeels like i'mma bothering u, but i really wanna know..........

What I’m sorry as a web dev is not that I would be replaced by AI. What I’m sorry is that I’ll miss the opportunity of milking AI.

Lol, we are done 🥺 I learned programming 1 year and I don't know what to do now

@outis99

2 ай бұрын

Keep going man, we aint going anywhere

@lengors7327

2 ай бұрын

Talk about an overreaction

@anonymousalexander6005

2 ай бұрын

The bot couldn’t make a functional application if it had a 1000 more years to do so, you’re fine… as long as you aren’t making copy-paste websites and asset flips…

@ulu9208

2 ай бұрын

@@anonymousalexander6005what do you mean

@shreyas.sihasane

2 ай бұрын

It will take at least 10-20 years to make super AI to make a full fledged application. Don't worry keep going 🎉

So, after all these years of hard work as a software engineer and all those sleepless college nights spent solving assignments, it's going to be pointless in a few years? That's tough to take in and it's making me anxious.

Still not good enough for massive code bases. Making a new project is completely different then maintaining and adding features to an existing one.

Well personally i haven't try any other AI tools than chatgpt but I will be honest, it can solve easy things which we can write slower than chatgpt it help to write it quickly but mostly i have to tell him 3,4 times before chatgpt correct it and for complex problems it suck it's sucks so hard, It make me rage sometimes, even if they some how give me solution it's so much bad as like written by someone who just make things work we could do better than that, honestly but still it helps me with starting, and giving me an idea for how should i start project what steps do i need to do. it helps with it. not with problem solving as real world. it will be also the same I'm pretty sure. HUMAN BRAIN IS UNIQUE NOTHING REPLACE IT. so as for software engineers the replacement of that would take decades it's not happening soon, I'm pretty sure about it.

If there is something I am not crazy about, it's AI.

At 13 percent - very very long way to go. Also which company want to give access to their code to outsiders? There can be many issues & evaluation of AI is an issue.

People are speculating that this is a scam based on some disecting of their webpage.

@ccmajor6147

2 ай бұрын

Saw the same shit on reddit

The most important software project is not the generation step but the continuous maintenance and development process. I don't believe Devin can develop the very diverse features of the real world. After 2 years and 1000 tons of code added by humans, what will we have? Is it the hell of maintenance?

they just made advanced google for software engineers lmao

14:49 jel ima BMW? i kaze dobro nmj sad da snimas bas deo gde je X5

job vacancies in 2030: full stack developer (remote from anywhere, must be AI trained with latest GPT-20)

@Muhammad_5264

2 ай бұрын

Devin can train itself

first Claude hyped us up. now Devin! AI news seems fun. Feels like there's no end of the competition. Doesn't it?

it's similar to GPT pilot (open source) in a way.

Josh is goated, humor and sacarsm is through the roof, awesome stuff.

@joshtriedcoding

2 ай бұрын

cheers man! appreciate that

Why didn't google search engine replace all developers? Basically in the internet you can find everything what you like any solution in any language... AI is same just give you more user friendly information :)

@userre85

2 ай бұрын

No more 200k salaries for fresh grads

@benchen1495

2 ай бұрын

Lol this is a wild take. They literally have autonomous agents doing the exact same thing junior devs do

@josephp.3341

2 ай бұрын

@@benchen1495 And google is doing the same thing junior devs were doing 20 years ago. Now, you copy paste a solution off google. How is this any different?

@dukehuygens2000

2 ай бұрын

cope

we just ducked up

LOL what they build is pretty simple using LLMs with some integrations.

Nobody is going crazy about Devin but those who can't comprehend its a plot to scam investors. Also the use case was accounted for, i'd barely call it generative ai

The outrageous hype for AI tools the last year has been exhausting and incredibly frustrating, and all for very underwhelming software. The questions from non-engineers are bad enough, especially when they come from project managers who legitimately could be replaced by AI for all the good they do, but to see actual developers worrying about this nonsense is crazy. It goes to show how mediocre a lot of developers are that they feel threatened by what is ostensibly a crypto scheme at this point in the game. Your job isn't going anywhere unless you suck at programming, and if you do suck at programming you should never have become a developer to begin with.

As UFC fighter said: Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, ...

It's probably a way to gain more funding and then use the funding to deliver on their promises.

@MeatCatCheesyBlaster

2 ай бұрын

*not deliver on their promises

We are life long learners. Or, at least that what so many devs claim to be. Yet, instead of focusing on the future, learning this technologies, and being more effecient these "Devs" are complaining. In my opinion, AI Dev is simply more hype. In what practical world would you ever want an AI coding in a language you don't know building things that you don't understand how it works? Sure, it had a minor incremental improvement in debugging. It's still light years off from being perfect. Which means, the "entrepreneurs, product managers, and other stakeholders" aren't the one who would be writing the prompts and having it fix problems in the code because those people can't even point to where something in the code isn't functioning properly. Which means, they still need experts to point out these problems by reading the code. This is nothing but more hype. It needs to be at 100% and better than humans to replace developers. Also, the thing is even with AI we assume there is going to be a need for less developers in a world that is becoming hyper efficient and where change is happening at a faster rate than ever in human history. Where people are making more money than ever. The simple fact is companies don't have a ceiling on how much money they want to make. So, I don't see there being a need for "less" developers. Maybe "less" per company who have a theoritical cieling of how much they could make on their product or services based on market conditions or some other factor. But, the "exponential" companies of the future have no cieling meaning they'll need to HIRE MORE not less. So, they're going to be hiring more productive developers to release more features and provide MORE VALUE per developer. I don't see this being a career ender until AI can do everything a human can do simply said.

Poor devin

Ima just code my interview projects with Devin. Bro, this robot stuff is just a way for corporations to avoid hiring labor and simply increase their profits by 5x. Hopefully, it backfires and other small companies rise or their own developers start startups and cut into their profits. Then, they will finally begin to cry and say AI is bad. I try to find the possibility in AI actually making more jobs I doubt at least now for 10 years or more who can predict the future, but dark times ahead you got someone smarter who can do it all and 5x production with just 1 person on the driver seat, all other devs unemployed right after RIP. this robot will just get better :( . imagine me finally graduating from Uni having to deal with this bullshit.

"calculators didn't change the need for human mathematicians"...

@psyclone1349

2 ай бұрын

Calculators replaced the people who did large calculations for organizations. Those people were the ones who were originally called 'computers' and that job went obsolete. Mathematicians don't go around multiplying and dividing large numbers 😂😂

@zenitsu4139

2 ай бұрын

Cope

@jitx2797

2 ай бұрын

AI is not just a calculator

@combatcombat9623

2 ай бұрын

AI is a grown ass man

@guizaoacc

2 ай бұрын

Calculators are hyper literal. AI's point is not about clicking and typing, is about longer tasks getting done in a shorter amount of time with more precision. That is the biggest challenge right now: memory span.

people gotta cut some slack on Google Form 😭

@puffenis

2 ай бұрын

😂😂

It is replacing 20% soon 30% 40% 50% 100%

Have anyone got acces to use Devin? If yes howw

At least they will have no problem funding the project now 😂

Don't worry software enginner will always exist! You won't be able to do it as a career anymore, but you still can code as a hobby 😊

6:45 Even with copious comprehensive documentations, engineers at times get lost in code bases they themselves have written and have to take time to understand what was done. Good luck AI replacing engineers.

Yo it’s works really well but it’s not anything that you can’t build today. Look at Autogen, crewAI and some others.

What the hell means far away when it was just 0.52% only one year ago and the expectations are exponential???😂

Whats with these weirdos always only ever try to solve coding with automation by AI, when they obviously know completing a automation AI for normal typical things are way easier. There’s legitimately a new market for AI, and instead of trying to dominate a market, they just make AI to be some kind of novel achievement only.

idk if it still worth go cs major, wtf do i do

@leonlow9911

2 ай бұрын

Don’t do it, not worth the risk

@josephp.3341

2 ай бұрын

It's worth it if you really love computers. You probably won't get a free job, the market will be even worse when you graduate. If you just want money - maybe get into a trade like welding and learn coding on the side as a hobby :) you can still code for fun.

"Atleast yet" ::::(

Guys if we're being honest, AI WILL take our jobs. Things are happening so fast right now

@leonlow9911

2 ай бұрын

It’s going to reduce the demand for sure! Won’t replace completely but we don’t need that many software engineers anymore

Devin is going to steal...Investors money

Wait, what if devin changed code that wasn't part of test code coverage? The tests would still pass 😂

this is vaporware for now, pretty obvious.

At last get rid of the "Man in the Middle of My Bussines" kkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!

Upwork huh. So it's a Ubot Studio competitor... not AGI or even a tech engineer replacement. I bet you could engineer it to do about anything, I agree, but declare a difference.

it's not a big deal but 1:59 took me out 😂

devin seems more like a faster horse to me, and faster horse do not replace regular horses, cars do, I think we are safe until we the AI FORD build the car

You've been able to do this in autogen for about 6 months so this isnt exactly wowing me lol

Devin more like Devil😡

I try to use GPT everyday, but as you said in your tweet. It's complete ass most of the time.

@scrumptious1177

2 ай бұрын

Even with GPT-4?

WHO the hell is Devin

I don’t know why people are freaking out. Does anyone actually wanna write code or do they want the thing they are trying to build and have time left over to go play outside? Lmao yeah man you can play out there! People are actually afraid of just being useless. Just accept the fact that you have no use and you are here to consume resources and shit them out just like every other animal on this planet

It's built on top of GPT4, so it will definitely get good fast because openai is progressing at super speed ☠️

It would be hilarious if its just a rug pull lmao

I am almost positive that this is a scam. I'm genuinely impressed that people are not being more skeptical with even a cursory look into the actual website itself A 10 man team with a few people that just joined a month ago in a company that was founded 5 months ago seemingly building a better AI system than anything we've seen with OpenAI and other companies that took years to develop these applications? Nah, I don't buy it, especially when I look at their website.

Utter non sense , same was said about ChatGPT and it could not even figure out static and non static variables in a super code snippet.

Ai evolution is so crazy. Whit this rate, I'm sure Ai will fully take our programming job in next 2 years or sooner. Time to change the new career or learn Ai and Math.

@LudaZawleczka

2 ай бұрын

can't ai model create other ai model and solve math stuff? it can, so why would you learn anything?

@goessytm

Ай бұрын

Think either within 2 years or never. Because ai will be advanced enough in two years.

Cryptocurrency is a free currency that does not depend on any centralized government and allows social autonomy at an unbelievable level----yet we still use USD for almost everything. Devin is a seriously overhyped tool used to raise some quick bucks before it will crash by extremely high cost and the sheer amount of work it will be asked to perform IF it actually does it right.

More like dev-out

AI code completion is already trash

It will only get better, even if it's flawed, AI has only gone "mainstream" in the past year and is making significant in-roads. We'd be fools to be complacent and believe it wouldn't gradually, then rapidly get better

just six months

@JacketyJohnson

2 ай бұрын

Go farming potatoes then.

@sahebbeshra7659

2 ай бұрын

@@JacketyJohnson just planted

@seanrobinson6407

2 ай бұрын

Yep.