"The real question is this was all of this legal?" "Absolutely f*cking not"-

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

😂

@Aura_322

Ай бұрын

115 fc

@kartikthawal7809

Ай бұрын

Why are you 🧂

@Aura_322

Ай бұрын

@@kartikthawal7809 🤫 you’ll see on Wednesday

@benedictjajo

Ай бұрын

​@@kartikthawal7809imagine going to a kart race with a Lamborghini which is against the rule but the authorities don't say anything because you gave them bundles of cash.

I think the biggest issue about this 115 charges against City is that since the case brought up to the public, they barely have any update for it.

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

I think simply due to the size of it and the legalities that’s just going to stretch it out so far

@tyler_du

Ай бұрын

no bro that not an issue, titles should be awared on the pitch not because they spend some more money. i dotn like when teams loose points they fairly won on the pitch. money alone doesnt make a diffence,, you need the right people and work. chelsea man utd newcastle and even psg on CL are great examples.

@purpleg3899

Ай бұрын

​@@tyler_duI mean, take Pep to coach PSG and give home 1 billion to spend over 3 years. He'll turn that side into prime real Madrid mo problem

@ryankwatemba4071

Ай бұрын

​@@purpleg3899what about one billion in two seasons .where will it land you? tenth

@benedictjajo

Ай бұрын

​@@tyler_dubro, without that money, they won't be able to sign those players and pay the wages the players want. And without those players, they will win nothing. Look at City at the start when they didn't have rodri and kdb, they were abysmal.

It's really winding me up that both Liverpool and Arsenal fans are saying they're out of the title race when it's a 2 point gap, and it's 6 games to go. Lets hope the players aren't as fragile as the fans.

@chad264

Ай бұрын

We lost to crystal palace and atalanta in home and arsenal to villa. Dont know about them but our players dont look like they want to win

@AmbushRL.

Ай бұрын

@@chad264 I'd say Arsenal still have a chance, but Liverpool are done.

@bautistalasheras3410

Ай бұрын

Brother. We’ve been here before and know how it ends. Once you’re chasing City in the final strecth of the season, it’s over.

@ThatGuyHelm

Ай бұрын

City don't drop points at this stage. Liverpool are sloppy and Arsenal are still unpolished. They fucked up and will at least once more before the end

@ArdFooty

Ай бұрын

All I'm saying is, you just can't allow city to be 2 points clear with 6 games left, but I mean with all we've seen unfold over the last few weeks, who knows what will happen, it's the beauty of football

Liverpool fan here. From an LFC point of view, the argument of City breaking the rules had weight when we were getting 97 points and missing out on a title against a team that spent like 400million pounds more. At this moment, and everything that came from that Real Madrid final defeat onwards, it’s just our team failing to get over the line. It’s really sad but we went from doubters to believers to doubters.

@GOATfootball476

Ай бұрын

Really thought this was the year we'd win everything. I hate man utd. It really destroyed our players confidence

@harryclark7404

Ай бұрын

@@GOATfootball476It says far more about them XD I hate Utd too, but them "derailing us" means so much to their fans, shows how small they are now or rather how small their ambitions are now. Their aim is not to win the leagues it’s to stop us from winning it (but allowing their neighbours to?)

@JabbarTV1

Ай бұрын

@@harryclark7404 you never see Utd play their socks off against city, they always lose and easily so their last ever win was back in 2016 in the cup some fluke 1-0

@jasonmillsom2981

Ай бұрын

​@JabbarTV1 it was last year 2-1 at old Trafford

@jasonmillsom2981

Ай бұрын

​@harryclark7404 actually it says more about Liverpool, bc we celebrated bc for one it was dramatic and secondly it killed Liverpools quadruple hopes, Liverpool bottling the prem and the europa league is purely on them and Klopps arrogance to think he deserves a fairy tale ending For me Liverpool are about to enter a banter era like man united and we'll all have a blast with it😄

I actually don’t even hate city I like there players and I like pep a lot, though I feel the leauge would be so much more exciting without city at the moment, but also you could say that with United 10 years ago - Luton Fan

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

I agree, nothing to take away from the players it’s not their fault, I just think a more competitive league is more interesting from a neutral perspective

@user-br4yw2wo6t

Ай бұрын

​@@Vizeh Tbh, Serie A is probably the most competitive league in the big 5 atm

@HieuNguyen0611

Ай бұрын

united didnt cheat 10 years ago and they definitely didn't spend 2 billion of oil money

@red_eyeone11

Ай бұрын

@footyflamez7455 I feel like you can hate a club but like a manager or players for example I'm a wba fan and I hate wolves yet I like Gary o Neil and can respect that th players are good(man u man city and villa all fill this category aswell)

@MCFCReacts

Ай бұрын

@@user-br4yw2wo6tno chance. Inter are dominating it

Just a reminder, they took like 10-15 points from EVERTON for financial fair play violations but ofc the oil party bus is immune to stuff like that.

i like how it went from "liverpool are favorites" to "they were never meant to be in a title race" in the span of 1 week🤦‍♂️

@matija9540

Ай бұрын

Two things can be true at the same time. Liverpool were meant to be in a transitional year because of the amount of players leaving and coming in, but the team gelled extremely well a lot sooner. That being said, I don’t think there was a single matchday where Liverpool were title favourites.

@charlottehardy822

Ай бұрын

Tbf many of us Liverpool fans are amazed at where we are given the decimation of our midfield last summer, we weren’t given a chance at the start of the season and yet we’ve made it this far. Not going to pretend the last few games haven’t been crushing but all in all I don’t think we’ve done too badly this season, scrappy and nerve wracking but definitely better than people expected.

@N0Xa880iUL

Ай бұрын

​@@matija9540Yes they were. They looked formidable. Given their remaining fixtures before man utd, it looked like they'd win or at least keep it alive till the last matchday. Which I'd say, is still possible. I hate insta-revisionism (Not insta-gram).

@thecitizens4573

Ай бұрын

@@matija9540not like city loose mahrez & gundo & laporte too.

@matija9540

Ай бұрын

@@thecitizens4573 laporte was a non factor even last season, Mahrez was a bench player. Only Gundogan is an important player they lost and it’s much easier to replace one player than 5.

The problem for us mate (me a Sheffield United fam and yourself a Burnley fan) is the only sort of thing we can realistically aim for is being a Crystal Palace type side, always in and around mid table, nothing more nothing less.

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

Seeing Brighton rise the way they have gives me slight hope though I can’t lie

@Relic-eo5cc

Ай бұрын

I'm a Sunderland fan 😢 ​@@Vizeh

@LiamK-ep6fs

Ай бұрын

@@Relic-eo5cc I’m a Newcastle fan and I hate this league with a passion too much money and corruption involved

@purpleg3899

Ай бұрын

​@@LiamK-ep6fsbut you just got oil money in your pocket. In 2 or 3 years you'll be able to spend it like City has

@YOUNGJBR

Ай бұрын

@@purpleg3899was about to say that lol

Its telling that both Liverpool and Arsenal fans are deflated because the levels to win the PL are just insane now. Neither Liverpool nor Arsenal have got where they are with financial doping, City have and it shows because that edge it gives them is more than any club playing by the rules will ever be able to achieve. Liverpool have lost to City twice with points totals that have won the league in any other year of existence, it's just stupid at this point and whats the point of following the PL.

@banjoguy9000

26 күн бұрын

I would've gotten that argument during the 18/19 title race when Liverpool narrowly missed out while spending much less (even then their transfer budget was nothing to scoff at). But to say Arsenal don't have the edge City do when they've substantially outspent them in the last 5 seasons makes no sense. And that's without mentioning clubs like United and Chelsea that have always had the same budget as City at their disposal yet rarely if ever competed for the title. It's okay to criticise City for their UAE ownership or the FFP non-compliance, but discrediting a good management structure and a hardworking team and coaching staff by watering it down to "they just had more money" is unsubstantiated.

@ThatK1dTom

26 күн бұрын

@@banjoguy9000agreed Arsenal have spend heavily (with mixed results) and have little to show for it but it wasn't pumped in by a Nation state, it was from them being a brand built on tradition and past successes. City are only where they are because they had insane levels of money pumped in to make them appealing to master managers like Pep and his team behing the scenes as they had no history and were crap. Without UAE none of this happens and City are still that other team in Manchester. They have cheated to where they are and now are reaping the rewards off it. My point is that Liverpool, have spent and operated within the rules exceptionally, Arsenal, have run things very well to turn a sinking ship, Chelsea and United have wasted resources although they haven't got to this position by cheating financially (at this point in time, Todd Boehly is an idiot), but City have unlimited resources, they have cheated and cut corners to where they need to be to attract the best management and now are untouchable because of it. They shouldn't.be in this position, hence what is the point of trying you can't win, the system is broken.

@banjoguy9000

26 күн бұрын

@@ThatK1dTom the issue with what you're saying is that you make an arguably valid point (City's Success is in big part down to a massive takeover by stinking rich owners) but arrive to a wrong conclusion (the game is rigged and no one else can win it). Yes City have been pumped with money by their new owners and you can argue about whether such big takeovers are bad for football or not. However, you can't say City's new owners gave them advantages other teams didn't possess. In fact I would argue the opposite, that until recently City was at a disadvantage compared to its rivals (minus Liverpool) since it had to compete with teams that had the same type of budget as City and the pedigree of being a historically successful team. The fact that the other teams were successful for longer made it harder, not easier for City to compete. For example, the pool of players the could sign in their first 4-5 seasons was very limited compared to who Arsenal, United or Chelsea could sign, since many players would be unwilling to join such a project no matter how much they were paid. They also had to limit themselves to signing average mid-table managers until Mancini came. And regarding Pep joining them, it had less to do with money (United were also seeking him and had the same financial ability) and more with them being the most promising option he had (United were a mess both structurally and on the pitch while Liverpool had already signed Klopp). City 's board of director consisting of people Pep had worked with, remarkably txiki, also played a major role. Also regarding Chelsea saying they never cheated is disingenuous since you can only say that because FFP rules didn't really exist then. Let's not forget during Abramovic's first year Chelsea spent 3 times the transfer record in a single window, then proceeded to spend the same amount the very next window

@ThatK1dTom

26 күн бұрын

@@banjoguy9000 the game is rigged because they should be punished for cheating to get where they are today, but they haven't and won't be. They quite literally held up a case and obstructed so much in the case Vs UEFA they got off the hook at CAS. They are bad for the game and literal proof that the system is rigged. They won't get touched because it becomes a matter of national politics as they are a nation state. They should be sent to the bottom of the football pyramid but obviously that won't happen...also we aren't talking about United or Chelsea here it's deflecting from the actual issue. City are cheats, they have profited from cheating, they will not fail because they took such an insane advantage, football is broken now because it doesn't punish cheaters, case closed.

If money was the only problem, then man U and Chelsea would have been also successful, don't you think 🤨

@kyletucker3811

Ай бұрын

That's not the main issue. I'm not sure if you watched the video, or have been paying attention to why people are against them so vehemently now. It's the fact they artificially inflate revenue which is blatant cheating.

@cliffordovo6341

Ай бұрын

@@kyletucker3811So how does inflating revenue affect performance in the pitch? 🤡

@purpleg3899

Ай бұрын

Why don't Chelsea and Man U have 115 charges? 😊

@ammarbaagu

Ай бұрын

@@kyletucker3811 What prove do you have? CAS literally said tha City didnt inflate their income. That is literally the biggest outcome of the UEFA case

@benedictjajo

Ай бұрын

​@@ammarbaagubro, your club was already found guilty and had to pay a fine in 2010, and now your club has 115 charges against them. It runs in the blue blood, criminals by nature. And don't forget the 1905 match fixing, bribery fiasco

City knew EXACTLY what they were doing. Not buying they didn't know. They literally funneled MILLIONS through a company that had never EVER posted a profit.

You can’t blame City for Liverpool or Arsenal bottling it. If they cannot beat Villa or Palace when they need to win they don’t deserve the league.

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

In fairness City lost to Villa and drew to Palace too

@DrDoom333

Ай бұрын

⁠@@Vizeh True but when City need to win when it is important they do and even when it looks like they will lose the title they come back to win by cranking up the pressure and the competitors for the title crumbles so while they have lost Villa as well as drawing to Palace they show up when needed something the others don’t do.

@Chickenbarbeque

Ай бұрын

Problem is, their win will be tainted by the horrific var decisions by refs season long

@xxon_kllko

Ай бұрын

@@Vizehbut won em after half of the season passed

@PoliAstroN

Ай бұрын

I don’t blame City. I just don’t like them. Lol.

Man sees Vizeh notification. Man clicks. Man happy.

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

Man very happy too

@Hello7488to

Ай бұрын

@@Vizeh when will you do a championship part 2?

@rydawg26

Ай бұрын

Fax Been doing that for 6 years 😂

At this point city fans back their players more than the teams that say "it means more" or 1st time in 20 years

@Chickenbarbeque

Ай бұрын

To be fair though, it's a lot easier to back your players when they consistently perform well, and I guess arsenal fans at the stadium just got ptsd from last season and just didn't want anything to do with it😂😂😂

@esausello8807

Ай бұрын

These videos and discussions don't come out when City are not in the lead and viewed as playing bad, as soon as their teams f*ck up its back to 115 charges/Oil club banter....As a City fan I will never feel guilty about the charges tainting the success, I enjoyed it and still enjoy the success....All of the top clubs breach FFP in some form, it's just that City are the only ones who have been caught....

@anonymousbanana204

Ай бұрын

@@esausello8807 I don't see bloody luton or sheffield being boosted by oil dollars buying players for hefty price tags and paying them outrageous amounts of money. It's clearer than water that City cheated their way to success, not on the pitch but financially. No arab money = No Man City. I welcome you to watch what man city used to be before arab money which is Middlesbrough 8 - 1 City.

No city fan is suprised by this. Just last week it was called the most exciting title race in how long but the moment we go top it's boring again👍

@user-nr1dx4us4d

Ай бұрын

The switch was faster than I could blink 😂

@Ballotubie

Ай бұрын

@@user-nr1dx4us4d But they told us they don't care and there is no agenda😂

@lamalb3184

Ай бұрын

Its exciting when their teams (arsenal and liverpool fans) are in a title race but when another team is top of the table, they cant accept it and they say its a boring title race

@user-nr1dx4us4d

Ай бұрын

@@lamalb3184 you hate to see how people can be so sad and salty, I never hated the fact they were top and just wanted to see how it unfolds

@user-nr1dx4us4d

Ай бұрын

@@Ballotubie yet they are all here in the comments 🤥

The biggest "problem" with Citeh is that Pep Guardiola is arguably the greatest club football coach... ever...(If not definitively, he's most certainly in the shout)...when you couple that talent with a bottomless pool of money...its an unbreakable conundrum borne out over 38 games lol....which is where the problem lies at the root...its relentless and impossible to have to keep up that standard over THIRTY EIGHT GAMES lads! ... I honestly don't think there'll be another winner of the league realistically until Pep effs off and leaves the PL alone unfortunately...or...the charges come home to roost... whichever is first

"They don't hate the great ones, they hate the best ones." -Kobe Bryant

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

It’s a fair critique for neutral fans to want to see different winners no? I’m buzzing Beyer won the league so it means Bayern hasn’t won again

@Relic-eo5cc

Ай бұрын

​@@Vizeh it's Liverpool's and arsenal's fault for bottling it.

@50randomthings

Ай бұрын

@@Relic-eo5cc no its not man city have 100 mill players sitting at there bench its hard to compete with that

@Relic-eo5cc

Ай бұрын

@@50randomthings Man U have a 80 mil Sancho, that does nothing

@deepakpandey8240

Ай бұрын

@@VizehUTD won 13 in 20 years? Nobody blinked an eye then. At least with City the standards are rising for PL. Otherwise those boring draws to win the league with 80 points were such a drag. Now we know you have to be ruthless and play with killer instinct to win the league. That’s the best kind of winners.

i think the biggest factor that you didn't mention is that city have refused to cooperate with the investigation. they're trying to delay everything as much as possible by not providing what the fa are asking for. that's actually what a lot of the charges are for. when teams like everton or forest cooperate with the investigation, they get hit with significant points deductions. in fact a big part of the reason city got away with their uefa charges was because they delayed everything for so long that the offences passed their statute of limitations and got wiped

@omaralkayal7598

Ай бұрын

City also paid UEFA 30 million euros in compensation honestly paying them whatever they ask is better than getting a 2-year ban

@theblahblahgames816

Ай бұрын

He did mention it

@MasterIceyy

Ай бұрын

Not cooperating isn't as bad as you make it out, if a police officer asks for your ID you're entitled to not cooperate, if you don't want too, City aren't compelled to help the FA, or the PL it's on the accuser to look for the evidence to prove the accusation. The Crown prosecution service wouldn't press charges without sufficient evidence, unless they think they can take the chance of circumstantial evidence, and in civil court you have discovery, where both parties are legally allowed access to all data relevant to the case. Not cooperating could be as much as providing all financial information so some poor soul has to sit and doom scroll through everything, rather than just providing the relevant information alone

@Hachiae

Ай бұрын

@@MasterIceyy but that doesnt fit the narrative

@IZ4DAYZ_

Ай бұрын

You do know the evidence they used to charge us was made on a Google document which anyone can make there is no solid evidence that says we are guilty people just assume the media is right but when you do your own research you uncover the truth

What about Chelsea spending 1 billion Utd spent over 1.4 billion last decade and signing all flops can’t be helped bro

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

Yeah they are run like shit bro, I just want some jeopardy on who will win the title as a neutral

@D.Rodrigues_18

Ай бұрын

The glazers didn’t actually put their own money into the club though they are horrible owners who put the club in debt you can’t just look at the money spent without the context.And In Chelsea’s case their owner decided to be the one doing the transfers despite knowing nothing about football

@sethharvey1073

Ай бұрын

I think for those clubs, is that they were still top clubs before they had the insane money spend. Man City were nothing before the money.

@boon5023

Ай бұрын

Chelsea had massive investments from their owner with contracts extended over nearly a decade with some players, really bending the rules. United make over half a billion a year in revenue every year. So in the last 10 years, ur looking at a fraction of the money made by united actually going to transfers. And its never ever the glazers money.

@spinyslasher6586

Ай бұрын

Chelsea literally won the UCL a few years ago. They are just as successful as City there.

As a city fan since I started watching European football in 2006 I’ve learned not to care I’m just going to enjoy our success

@mathmagician155

Ай бұрын

Same I've been a city fan since 2010 and imma enjoy it while it lasts

@Tyler05595

Ай бұрын

I’ve been a fan since 2013 cos I was a literal child then I was in year 3 and i didn’t understand the whole concept of glory and success I chose city as my club cos Manchester’s where I’m from i don’t watch the club for glory or success or non of that bullshit I go to the etihad to watch a good game of football from the club I support wether it’s raining or wether it’s sunny I’m proud to be a blue

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

That’s fair, City fans shouldn’t have their memories effected by things out of their control

@Tyler05595

Ай бұрын

@@Vizeh it usually does effect the glory though I don’t support city for any of that glory BS yet I’m told I am by people that don’t know me personally it’s not like every day I go to Gregg’s and shove a city shirt in a United fans face cos in fact I get united fans booing me on the street for wearing the shirt of a club I support and take pride in supporting

@purpleg3899

Ай бұрын

💀 okay, he's another one​@@mathmagician155

Playing it down the midddle, the 115 charges are all alleged. From what we know, it could be pure bologni and the person that made them up just pulled the numbers out of their ass. However, if city are found guilty, then chelsea definitely infringed on FFP aswell, and I wouldn't be surprised if the other few clubs that have outspent city have infringed on FFP. Arsenal and Man United over the last 10 years have both spent more than most realise. At the same time, FFP itself is a very unfair system, as it really just exists to protect winning clubs more than it helps smaller clubs, a better idea would be to introduce a wage cap, but that is never happening. Either way, because the prem likes its money, I think they'll call it fair game and say that they don't hold any weight, regardless of if they actuallydo or not. The prem is very silly.

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

The Prem is very silly is a great way to describe it

@normalperson8173

Ай бұрын

the thing about wage cap is that chelsea doesn't really put a high wage for all of their 8 years contracts. it's not gonna stop them from spending another billion without buying a striker

@saier1414

Ай бұрын

@@Vizeh Because saying the league is serious would be very inaccurate lol.

@__kunal

Ай бұрын

So basically, if City goes down, every top club can also go down??

@saier1414

Ай бұрын

@@__kunal It'd be a surprise if they are the only ones that have dirt on them.

TBH, my view is that City winning the league isn’t making the league boring. What’d make it boring is if there’s no real competition and there’s a gargantuan gap ahead of second place like what’s usually the case with PSG. The fact that Arsenal and Liverpool are still so close (and can overtake Man City because they’re in the FA Cup semifinals this weekend 4/15/24) means that things still aren’t over barring a major collapse like Arsenal in 2023. If anything, the competition makes the skills of City’s roster (namely guys like KDB and Erling Haaland) and Pep’s tactical acumen look even MORE impressive and it helps us appreciate their accomplishments as much as City fans just enjoying the ride do. I’m willing to bet that in a decade from now, we’re going to see this Man City era like how we see Man United in the 90s and Arsenal and Chelsea in the 2000s: some of the best talent the English game has ever seen, players AND manager

@thecitizens4573

Ай бұрын

Yeah borinh for the “neutrals” cause their team doesn’t get a mention in this race. Yes city winning 6 in 7 years. Only once they won comfortably. it was always a fierce fight. City always coming from behind to snatch the title. Even this season

@_Tricky_

Ай бұрын

No it won’t. They’ll be remembered for cheating.

@999.MoAmin

Ай бұрын

They'll be remembered as financial dopers, not legends.

@m.fuzailbandarkar7023

Ай бұрын

​@@_Tricky_ They will be remembered as the best team in prem history for me

@paulwamutitu2447

Ай бұрын

It's hard to compete with a team that is owned by the Vice President and Deputy Prime Minister of UAE.

As a Manchester United fan the hatred towards city is always there. If the charges didn't loom over city and they did it fairly (let's not forget they're still alleged) then fair play to them. I now know how it feels to be a fan of any other team when we dominated. But the issue is the charges. We can't feel comfortable as a league allowing them to keep winning everything if the leagues are disingenuous through nefarious means.

Everyone hates a cheat, 115

@johnmalone9602

Ай бұрын

rio ferdinand drug cheat you mean 😂😂😂😂

As a rival fan I hate Liverpool more than city, but I respect Liverpools achievements,that's the difference! The masses don't respect sky blues. 😢😂

You should have mentioned the amount of shocking refereeing decisions that magically seems to fall into City's way. I can think of at least 5 key referee decisions this PL season that went City's way that shouldn't have.

The difference between City dominating the prem and psg dominating Ligue 1 is that there is a huge gap between PSG's spending and the other teams, but over the last decade, city have not spent as much as Manchester united or chelsea.

Its not about the money or resources. I just dont respect a club with 115 violations, and their owners dont exactly have the best human rights records.

@johnmalone9602

Ай бұрын

violations you mean unfounded allegations you 🤡

I sometimes find it bizarre how Liverpool and Arsenal are so relentlessly hated on and it’s seen as an absolute disaster if one of those teams won the league. But everyone seems happy when the team with 115 charges wins yet another boring league title.

Don’t hate city or even the fans. Just hate the bandwagon fans that joined 2016 and after, especially if they don’t think the 115 charges are significant

@danielmcgrath680

Ай бұрын

Agreed. Same goes for every big club. As a Hull fan from Wales (Dads from York), growing up couldn't stand all my United mates giving me banter like youre not from Wales yourself! Big six fans can hold it, City fans are no different to them. Kids want to support the good team.

@pritapp788

Ай бұрын

"Just hate the bandwagon fans that joined 2016 and after," That's a majority of them, right?

@ronweasley1354

Ай бұрын

@@pritapp788 yeah pretty much most of them

Bro everyone was saying it was an entertaining title race, some people were even writing off city but now that city are top the league its boring, city are ruining the league and everybody is absolutely losing their shit No one can actually tell me they don't care about city This kind of reaction on social media is clear PTSD EVERYONE is just hates city so much cuz it's well run and they are challenging the traditional big clubs Whether the 115 are true or not people would still treat city the same way If this dominance was another team no one would complain or bat an eye but once it's city it's ruining football People spent more than city calling our new signing flops, our academy players overrated Saying city fell off But once we start winning they'll start saying it's cuz of the charges and other conspiracy theories Us city fans don't even care anymore, we're just enjoying the ride People can say what the want Keep pretending like city have an unfair advantage over the league😂😂😂

@D.Rodrigues_18

Ай бұрын

You have No advantage yet Liverpool are denied a clear pen against you lot whilst having games live spurs where they are robbed, and if you actually paid attention no one was writing off city you lot have the best squad depth and had an easier run of games stop acting like you’re some underdog

@kimi_7

Ай бұрын

free soccerjerk content

@largenanashagger

Ай бұрын

If Newcastle in the next 15yrs do what city have done ill bow down, if they allegedly break a rule 115 times I'm not

@kimi_7

Ай бұрын

also thats a pretty long way to say "im gonna glaze" lol

@BiggestBirdonMars

Ай бұрын

@@largenanashagger good for your bro

Chelsea and United have both spent just as much if not more than City over the past year and are both horrendous. Arsenal and Liverpool aren’t exactly broke either. At the end of the day, City spends their money better than those clubs and they win consistently because of it. Personally I wanted Liverpool to win the league as a farewell for Klopp but that’s not gonna happen. But I’d rather see City win 20 league titles in a row before seeing Arsenal win 1. By far the most toxic fanbase in the prem besides MAYBE United. And no I’m not a Chelsea or Spurs fan, my club isn’t even in the Prem

@samwize28

Ай бұрын

the point isnt about £ spent. Its about where the £ has come from in the first place, and what rules have been broken to allow it to be spent. Its possible to simultaneously acknowledge that city have successfully and brilliantly applied the Sheiks resources to build arguably the greatest football team of all time, and recognise that they have broken rules and shown deception in order to do it.

@arvin9425

Ай бұрын

Arsenal/united fans are no different than any other fanbase. There are always delusional/ annoying ones in every fanbase, and those are the ppl that will get the most attention bc thats what gets clicks on social media. Do you actually have real life friends that support arsenal/ united etc?

@jackreynolds975

Ай бұрын

lol that’s why I want City to win, Arsenal and Liverpool fans are unbearable for me. At least with City no one really cares about their fans. If it’s not your team winning the prem, you want it to be City, or a really outside the box team (spurs not included)

you can’t call it the best league in the world if the same team is winning it every year

I think everyone finds city boring and don’t care when they win because everything they do is so formulaic with having the best manager and funds for the best players around. It’s like creating a save on career mode or fm with the richest club in the world, you’ll win everything and make great signings but it gets boring so quickly. They also do this while playing football which summarises what everyone hates about the modern game. It’s slow and repetitive in the majority of matches with team dynamics restricting a lot of their players for the system to be more effective. Fair enough they win everything but i don’t think the overall experience is enjoyable enough for fans of other clubs to envy them all that much.

@user-bs6ft5ye5z

Ай бұрын

its enjoyable

City fan here. At this point I'm so over the charges and accusations against us, if we're guilty then its disappointing on the clubs part but what can you do at the end of the day ill just be happy for this whole ordeal to be over and done with. But that's the thing, its never going to be over and done with. Guilty or not now we're always going to be seen as guilty from rival fans so if we are proven innocent what is the premier league going to do for us? The sheer amount of bad press that we have received just based on allegations is astonishing and it's NEVER going to end. This will hang over the clubs head for the rest of its existence and even afterwards.

@__kunal

Ай бұрын

Seriously, I wish our club would address those charges as soon as possible because that is only legitimate concern amongst all this success. Other then that, we City fans can just enjoy the ride

@anonymousbanana204

Ай бұрын

The thing is you won't be proven innocent as it's more than obvious as to what happened behind the scenes 💸 needless to say that City did win everything they've ever achieved fairly on the pitch, but outside of it is a financial cheating masterclass.

I became a city fan when i was in elementary school because i played as them in fifa once at my neighbor's house and really liked their kits. Now I'm 22 and have to deal with all my friends hating my city fandom :( Some people even doubt that I've been a city fan for that long and that gets pretty frustrating. It's also frustrating when people get mad at me being happy about the success. Like I get why they're mad but what am I supposed to do?

people when man city has fans: 😡 people when man city doesn't have fans: 😡

@NanobanaKinako

Ай бұрын

Well, let's be real, it's hard to find an authentic Man City. You have to time travel to the past to find a real Man City fan, back to the time when Man United and Arsenal fights each other like crazy. In nowadays, most of them are glory hunters who are former fans of struggling clubs like Man United, Chelsea, Napoli and Bayern.

@robcoward6326

Ай бұрын

​@@NanobanaKinakoWhat are you on about? We have the best away support in the league made up of fans that have been supporting since the league 2 days. Look up big Steve mcfc, you'll find out about real Man City fans

@D.Rodrigues_18

Ай бұрын

@@robcoward6326no way you think you have the best away support it’s unanimously accepted that Man Utd are the best away fans

@robcoward6326

Ай бұрын

@@D.Rodrigues_18 What the fans that left at half time in the Manchester derby? 😂

@D.Rodrigues_18

Ай бұрын

@@robcoward6326 cherry picking lol as if City Fans haven’t ever left at half time and it’s no coincidence that no one apart from city fans think that they have the best away support

For the whole season they would say how washed City is how all the players are flops, Gvardiol is flop, Doku is flop, Nunez is flop, Grealish is Flop, Kovacic is Flop, Ederson is so ass, Haland is a league 2 player, Foden is Overrated, Saliva is greater than Dias Stones, Walker is mid, KDB is not even in the level of Bruno, Klopp is better than Pep. Come April May and how are they supposed to compete with this Super team 💀 I feel like I am stuck in a loop It has happened like what 5 times now. Also what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

@blazingdiamond1386

Ай бұрын

Statistically,you’re probably guilty.The prem is a farmers league as well.

@kusholchaudhury31

Ай бұрын

@@blazingdiamond1386 And guilty of what actually? Buying players wow I am so ashamed mate. I mean I could have dealt if we had been fixing matches (for rolex) or buying referees but damn We bought players that's where I draw the line. How dare someone buy players, that's the biggest crime in the world. I wonder why Liverpool weren't stopped in the 60s or United in the 90s and Chelsea in the early 2000s or How Arsenal bought players from Betting money. But I digress what a crime man. Also I don't care if the league is a farmers league as long as my Club is farming.

@blazingdiamond1386

Ай бұрын

@@kusholchaudhury31 WTH are you talking about.Breaking FFP is a serious charge mate,like spending a bazillion dollars isn’t allowed mate.Proof I’m talking to a bozo who sees no problem with injecting a lot of money in a small club.Have a good day with your bandwagon team in the championship when the points eventually get docked

@blazingdiamond1386

Ай бұрын

@@kusholchaudhury31 Problem is the Qataris injected way too much money in a relegation level team.Why do you think Everton and Nottingham are getting docked points now?For match fixing?Hell nah.

@Akshat0899

Ай бұрын

​@@blazingdiamond1386saudi invested in newcastle as well but you guys not talking about it because they are not winning anything? And if they start winning then you will start arguing that newcastle is cheat? Accept it bro you guys just salty that your loser club can't win anything

As an arsenal fan, i never felt safe from Manchester city because of what they're capable of, and its stupid that they've yet been punished from ffp. And it wont be investigated, because Manchester city bring the premier League alot of money of of entertainment. We are stuck in a loopof Manchester city cheating their way to the top

They play attractive and good football, and I am proud of my club for that

@anantjain4640

Ай бұрын

@Zevrix0 Keep on hating, and we keep on winning

@anantjain4640

Ай бұрын

@Zevrix0 Typical hater when nothing to say, We dont have much local football around here in India

@IZ4DAYZ_

Ай бұрын

Exactly bro just let people hate there jealous

@samwize28

Ай бұрын

They represent a nation known for its human rights abuses, have clearly financially doped the club, and have provided zero evidence to suggest they have not cheated and deceived the league, and i am proud of my club for that.

The saddest thing about this is. It's that 115 charges Man city have is the reason why Liverpool and Arsenal players played really poor. That's the saddest part and this is not acceptable. As a football fan I don't want to see these players lose games because that 115 charges disrupted them from performing. That's the reason why Arsenal fans left the stadium early,they deserve more than that. Heck u 115 charges, it's all your fault.

@lozix7763

Ай бұрын

😂😭😭

@pedro8143

Ай бұрын

​@@lozix7763he's not necessarily wrong, those 115 financial fair play charges are there because of the ridiculous depth that city have, and if you have a lot of depth you are much less likely to crumble at the end due to fatigue, and I think that is what happened with arsenal and Liverpool, fatigue

@stevenjoseph6048

Ай бұрын

​​@@pedro8143Stop making excuses lmao. Both teams had an off day and they'll bounce back. People crying the title race is over when theres 2 points between top 3

@pedro8143

Ай бұрын

@@stevenjoseph6048 I'm not really making excuses, we played badly and we lost, and I say this as an arsenal fan, but the title race is over and you can not tell me with a straight face that city would be here if they didn't have this much depth as a result of FFP breaches

@stevenjoseph6048

Ай бұрын

@@pedro8143 Don't blame it just on FFP. All 3 teams has had major injuries this season. Infact Arsenal has probably had the least impactful injuries compared to City and Liverpool. Haaland, De Bruyne, Salah and more has been injured throughout this season. I personally think all 3 teams has the same level of depth. City doesn't have guys like Gundogan or Mahrez like last season

City once again had one of the smallest squads... lost veteran players due to transferes.. have been in 5 competitions.. lost key players for large chunks of the season And yet its somehow Man Citys fault when other teams fall off because they don't have the mentality to win 🙊 #SaltyTears #Crymore #4peatLoading 🦈🦈🦈🦈

@mytime991

Ай бұрын

Why spend 100 million on a CB then?

@KingKongBollox

Ай бұрын

@@mytime991 because we bought Akanji for 15 million and haaland for 65 million... its called smart business.. you should get your club to try it sometime 😊👍🏻

@DSSPrxYeRzZ

Ай бұрын

Fan after 2012 or 2016, I can smell it.

@KingKongBollox

Ай бұрын

@@DSSPrxYeRzZ What you can smell is shit... and its coming from your own mouth pal! I suggest you brush your teeth more regular than when your own club holds a trophy parade 😉 👍🏻 #CryMore #SaltyTears #4peatLoading 🦈🦈🦈🦈

@giftmokaba4127

Ай бұрын

@@mytime991to prevent other teams, your competition from buying him…every team wanted him after the WC

I find the Liverpool quadruple thing so idiotic. Every club who qualified for europe technically has a chance for the quad at the start of the season. Did all of them bottle it too? Or is this just Liverpool hate?

At least the real hardcore city fans deserve this success in my opinion. The same cant be said about man utd or liverpool fans who have never in their lifetime been relegated or even below midtable

@ChrisMan83

Ай бұрын

That's why I'm fed up of hearing Gary Neville bang on about the problems and constant stories about their club because they don't know what it's like to have it real bad.

@LiamK-ep6fs

Ай бұрын

@@ChrisMan83 my club Newcastle been relegated twice under Mike Ashley and we got told to be grateful while everyone thought it was ok for Man United fans to complain about Glazers

@ChrisMan83

Ай бұрын

@LiamK-ep6fs Mate it's pathetic! The biasdy is clear to see in the media and I've noticed a huge difference since the likes of Nevile and Jamie carragher started their pundentry journey on skysports. 2 different teams could be playing yet they could just bang on about Man u problems for an hour. I no longer listen to the end games analysis! Oh, I'm a Sheff wed fan who's got a soft spot for Newcasle, Fond memories as a kid visiting my auntie and uncle who lived near your place, It was my treat when we visited to go to a game.

@lamalb3184

Ай бұрын

@@ChrisMan83 the punditry has become so biased because of all the ex-players

@ChrisMan83

Ай бұрын

@@lamalb3184 Exactly

Funny thing is in the last 2 decaes Man Utd's net spend is 50% more than City's...Is it really due to money spent or just Excellent coaching and mentality?

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

No Man City is an absolutely fantastic run club on a football level, elite in that regard - while United are a complete disaster

@jordanastro4694

Ай бұрын

Without oil money City would be a mid table club at best, or in the championship. That’s an absolute fact as it’s what they were before the 2008 takeover. So yes the success absolutely is down to money and City fans should just own it.

@ea1766

Ай бұрын

@@jordanastro4694 doesn’t diminish their success

@chapi0460

Ай бұрын

The difference is that the money united spend on players and stuff like that is from the club itself and not from our owners, so like money from merchandise and tiket sales you know stuff like that while the Glazers pay nothing into the club. The money man city uses to buy stuff are from the owners(so oil Money) wich is why it goes against the rules because the owners are spending more than the Club makes . And if you want to argue that man city make more than united well your just wrong at that point wich is why saying united spend more on players isn't a good argument. And also united only spend on players and not on other important stuff like training facilities and stuff like that where as city do while also spending a lot on players at the same time. Also city are lying about how much they pay there players so saying that they spend less than united is bs because city lie about how much they spend

@__kunal

Ай бұрын

@@jordanastro4694 As a City fan, I wouldn'y deny that money didn't help. But also I won't accept people saying its just the money. City are possibly the best run club rn, making good transfers and improving the academy prospects. All this takes extremely good management and vision, unlike Utd. As for City fans, we are just enjoying the ride.

I say as a city fan it’s not our job to prove our innocence it’s the prems job to prove us guilty

@esausello8807

Ай бұрын

They only bring 115 charges and oil club when their teams bottle the lead.... It's been quiet all season when City was behind, now that reality has kicked in, they want to explain our success to us... It's always said that "die and be a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain".

@djlock8265

Ай бұрын

your club is guilty, everyone knows city is guilty, you'll get your due

@KKR-bf8ku

Ай бұрын

​@@djlock8265say this without crying losers 😂

@blazingdiamond1386

Ай бұрын

@@KKR-bf8kuMoneychester city fans waiting for Daddy Sheik to spend 2 billion dollars on players and become surprised when they win.🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@danielmcgrath680

Ай бұрын

@@blazingdiamond1386 arsenal United and Chelsea have all spent more since 2013 but they won sod all. *Incoming 115 rant which city will probably win*

To all the people who are saying that the league could be even more competitive without city. One has to realise that city have always had the title race with some other club. Apart from 2 seasons I don't remember City completely dominate the league. Liverpool has always been there, not winning 2 times just by 1 point. Winning one. Last season arsenal were there till the end but they lost momentum. This season there are 3 clubs. One loss for both arsenal and Liverpool doesn't mean the race is over and the race could go till the last match. If this is not competitive then i don't know what is. Just looking athe winners doesn't define a league, its the matches. Yeah it gets boring after we see the winner but that doesn't mean thr league was boring. People need to understand that

@oliverboisen7475

Ай бұрын

Agree. People make a lot out of the 5 titles out of 6. but I honestly think that is just simply the Pep factor. I think once Pep finally leaves, which I as a City fan do eventually see happening, I think we'll see a much more even league similar to the early to mid 2010's

@samkelorashuza5949

Ай бұрын

If one team wins the league for 100 seasons in a row it doesn't matter how many points the competitor had or that they had a competitor at all. That's not competitive

@pritapp788

Ай бұрын

"Apart from 2 seasons I don't remember City completely dominate the league." 2017-18: 19 pts ahead of the runner-up 2020-21: 12 pts ahead 2022-23: a comfy 5 points, despite's Arsenal supposedly great challenge The title wins of Chelsea and Liverpool in 2017 and 2020 were very comfortable too. I mean, you could simply have admitted that you have memory issues right? Instead of that long meaningless comment. Aside from Man City fans nobody believes those title races are competitive.

@ankit_anand533

Ай бұрын

@@pritapp788 Lol, so a team bottling the league at the end of the season doesn't make the whole league of 32 or 33 matches competitive? I don't have memory issues bruh, and moreover I'm not even a city fan. I'm just putting forward facts. In my opinion the competitiveness of a league should be determined by the matches that have been played rather than just looking at the final results. And why would Liverpool or Chelsea should be in the conversation when we are just talking about City? They were dominant in those seasons. I agree, but I was talking specifically about City.

As a city fan I do get the hate towards city as a club. Is from jealousy or not idk and ofc the charges are a major thing. I personally dont really care what the charges bring up as at the end of the day we will make it back again so it is what it is to be completely honest. But no matter what I will never forget these trophies even if other fans think they are tainted i dont care at the end of the day I love my club and hope that we arent guilty but if we are then we are.

@MasterIceyy

Ай бұрын

People only care because the club has won stuff, and they want to see the club get torn down, look at how differently everyone treats Forest or Leicester, or Everton, they just joke about it because those clubs are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. They want to see the club that challenges the establishment get torn down, so we can see Man United, Liverpool and Chelsea dominate again

@pouplurlolboy8157

Ай бұрын

HALA MADRID

@anonymousbanana204

Ай бұрын

There's no hoping tho, you guys clearly cheated (not on the pitch) and breached the FFP rules. Sucks to suck

@syb3rg0d23

Ай бұрын

@@anonymousbanana204 rather let an independent panel decide that mate than you

@tomatoisnotafruit5670

28 күн бұрын

@@syb3rg0d23 "independent" panel haha good joke mate.

Honestly don’t even care how the media portrays us anymore. Im just happy to see my club win trophies and celebrate them

@MakolaTL

Ай бұрын

Exactly.

@imheretoargue2344

Ай бұрын

That’s cool and all but the media is portraying you poorly because of your club’s actions so you being mad about the media isn’t the problem

@samwize28

Ай бұрын

same. Im a city fan and i dont care that we have cheated, or that we represent a nation known for its human rights abuses. Winning and celebrating those wins is literally all that matters to me. Its nice to find a kindred spirit. Up the city!

@ashermagajana565

Ай бұрын

@@imheretoargue2344im not mad. I just don't care

@MarkHalberstram

Ай бұрын

You shouldn’t care, you’re not a manc it has nothing to do with you 😂

I hate the club not the players/manager. I also hate how the Premier League is handling things such as FFP, if Man City got charges why didn't they punish Man City while they were charged instead of piling the number of charges and then making it increasingly difficult to punish Man City. But when it comes to small clubs they instantly punish them like Everton or Nottingham Forest. It's really the Premier League's fault for doing something stupid. And so called Man City fans are backing them up because of their success. (Man City should be relegated for this trouble and stripped of their trophies.) Saudi Arabia Ruining Football.

To start I am a Liverpool fan, so admittedly I am very biased (it’s hard not to be after missing out on two titles by a single point after extraordinary seasons). The past 2 title races against City were heartbreaking, but I could accept that we just couldn’t quite get over the line. At this point if City wins the title, I hope they are 5+ points clear come GW38. It is going to be extremely hard to accept if City wins the league by less than 3 points due to some of the awful decisions that have gone against us this campaign.

@jim122

Ай бұрын

Liverpool would still be top if some disgraceful decisions didn’t go against us

The press would have you believe Liverpool and Klopp are the best side to ever grace the Premier League 😂

Its not hate. I just dont care at all unless we are playing them. The football is boring but you cant argue with the results. The 115 charges have tainted the legacy of what should be remembered as one of the greatest teams of all time

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

The team should be remembered as one of the greatest regardless, players ain’t to fault tbf

Without watching the video, as a response to the title: I don't hate Man City, they just bore me to no end.

i’m a lfc fan and the premier league is slowly starting to turn more into a farmer’s league. sure, in this season, the title race has been amazing and it felt like there was competition between all three clubs but after yesterday’s results, it just seems inevitable to not see city dropping points now (i hope i’m wrong)

City will never face the music for the 115 charges. They'll string it out for decades if they have to and eventually they'll get it dropped for the charges being too long in the past.

I liked Manchester City when they weren't a multi billionaires toy.

I personally find it interesting that other top clubs seem all high and mighty about city spending loads of money, despite that all the other big 6 all repeatedly spend far more than 99.89% of football clubs in the world l, and as if uf they had the same spending power they would'nt do exactly the same Also its funny how everyone setill talks about man city spending despite chelsea spending 1.5 billion in like 18 months. Which im pretty sure is at least 4 times more than city have ever spend in an 18 month period

I love watching rival fans cry about City, saying that no one cares about us, yet they never stop talking about us. Honestly, I love it. Im just riding the wave until the natural drop in class happens and then another team will have their time. 😁

@tomatoisnotafruit5670

28 күн бұрын

and then you will be fan of that other team, lol nice job exposing yourself.

The title isn't over yet but it will be even harder now it is in City's hands. I am an Arsenal fan and I am disgusted at how fragile our fanbase was against Villa where instead of backing our team to the final whistle like we did most of last season until the title was essentially done, we instead walked out crying. With the crowd support things could have been different in the last 10 minutes which was the time left to play including added time.

@tomatoisnotafruit5670

28 күн бұрын

now Arsenal played some weak shit that game, the last 10 minutes were not going to be any different.

The tears fr rivals are just embarrassing

@rafikz77

Ай бұрын

Not as embarrassing as Rodri crying after the 2nd leg vs Madrid

to be fair, we only had a truly competitive era for small periods of time as both Man Utd and Man City have had long spells of near total dominance

As an Arsenal fan, I absolutely despise our fans leaving. I _wish_ I could see my team play at the Emirates week in week out and they just leave because of one loss??? Ridiculous. As for City, don't hate the fans or players or manager but the club disgusts me.

I like Man City. Fans of every club outside of the big 6 should like them. They are seeing success but they know the pain of lower leagues too. They’re a proper football club

@jmacmcfc4662

Ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏 🙏 proper footy fan

@ronmastrio2798

Ай бұрын

Lol is "proper club" a euphemism for being shite?

@tomatoisnotafruit5670

28 күн бұрын

Man City doesn't know the pain of lower leagues, the orginal Man City has long been killed off by this plastic Man City imposter. 99% of current City fans weren't fans before the takeover.

for me it's simple. I hate constant winners because they became boring. I don't wanna watch Ligue when at September I know that 90% who is winner and when I see at end that he is the winner. Doesn't matter who is. Why no one watched Bundes ligue because Buyern was winner for 10 years. Calco was fun because there were so many winners and so many competitive teams. Juventus, Roma, Milan, Inter, Lacio... and add others. Premier ligue had United Chelsie, Arsenal competing than Liverpool even throw challenge from time to time. and in Primera we had Real, Barca and Atletico now, Valencia Deportivo back than. It's fun to see teams fight. On top of that you add that City has way bigger budget, and buy who they want it's not interesting. IT was fun to watch Liverpool, Arsenal, City race, and even Liverppol, City race with both teams getting to almost 100 points, like Real and Barca did on start of 2010s. But we need some title swapping. We need to see one team going up and down, City actually has no up and downs for few years, they are constant all time. These is bigger boring thing, they drop point there and there but they are never in crisis, they are never on roller-coaster, just constant class of player and manager.

A lot of clubs say City’s success is boring… but no one complained when United were winning 13 out of 20 leagues 🤷🏻‍♂️

I think as an American is what can make the sport seem much less interesting. American sports are far more competitive than football in Europe, none of our sports have seen 2 teams win a league title in the last 7 years, especially not 6/7 being the same team. Because of my dad Everton became my team and I’ll never switch and be a glory hunter but it can just suck sometimes because I just have to accept there’s a good chance I’ll never see them win a premier league title in my life. I mean people talk about plastic American fans picking big 6 teams but can you blame them because if they don’t pick a big 6 club they might never see them win jack shit. And as an Everton fan I find it ridiculous with the FFP charges, I mean they are literally avoiding deductions by not cooperating? That alone is ridiculous you can just not cooperate and not get penalized

@crvrin

16 күн бұрын

There's a reason why american sports is stuck in the usa and nobody cares. American sports is so washed lol

As a Newcastle United fan, I'm glad how our owners are doing smart business and not doing a Chelsea for example. Great video as always Liam good luck to Burnley for the rest of the season 👍

As a City fan I find it amusing tbh. Every year everyone has better players than ours but when we win it's all of a sudden "you can't compete with them". Nah mate blame Nunez and Jesus, don't blame us👍

@liquidswords9540

Ай бұрын

Yeah I’ve noticed this how our players are always never as good as our competitors in all these combined XIs etc yet when we start to wrap up the league again we have this extraordinary stacked squad of unmatchable brilliance lmao we actually have a pretty small squad, just very good depth on account ofc of the money but also much better recruitment than similarly rich sides like United and Chelsea

@deekayy3222

Ай бұрын

@@liquidswords9540 Mate the things I've heard. Raya>Ederson, Saliba Gabriel>Dias Stones, White>Walker, Rice>Rodri, Odegaard>Bernardo That's just some, could go for days. If Arteta and Klopp have better players than us why do the 115 charges before 2019 even matter?

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

To be fair I wouldn’t take the vast majority of things you see online serious

@joshua1502

Ай бұрын

​@Vizeh nah, You're just biased asf, Bet you wouldn't be saying all that if it was your team on top

@sibusisomthini1670

Ай бұрын

Except, his club will never be on top

About 25 years ago, a few of us had a point. The clubs, mainly Manchester United, started to receive insane revenue from the Champions League. It's fine to reward winning, however, this is when clubs, ManU, Milan, Real, etc.....could pay over $10million for a player. Look at history of transfers......whole clubs were under $10m...but then Ferdinand (for example) goes for $27m~~~. Its bonkers money and only a few clubs could match that Chelsea did with hundred millions pumped in with Abramovich. Not having a salary cap made this happen, and the only way anyone else could ever get top players was hundreds of millions kicked in. This is my brief condensed explanation. As for City, how anyone thinks City will gain 115 points in a season is really crazy

People say it’s boring now but when SAF dominated it for 20 years nobody had any issue

The allegations, the squad size, the money (etc) are all valid, a point that I think doesn’t get spoken about much surrounding City being boring or hated is Pep A common thing that’s happened in Pep’s career is that he produces some tactical masterstroke that elevates his team above almost every other - starting as far back as his legendary Barca team, and continuing to this day Aside from the superstars of that team, how many casual fans still remember any of that team? How many people speak of games as if they were magical? The most common thing people mention when remembering that team are the trophies, the ending of Madrids dominance and Messi - not much else unless you’re a football super fan Same goes for Pep’s time at Bayern - the difference here is that he set up such a dominance that it took over a decade for anyone else to catch up. No disrespect to any of the managers who followed, but Pep still did what Pep does at Bayern - he met a challenge, he stumbled, he went away and came back with some new tactics that allowed his team to dominate None of this is to remove from Man City being financially overpowered or anything - but watching Pep coach is similar to that of a master surgeon, he’s so tactically gifted that eventually he finds a way to make his team fairly dominant, and that eventually becomes boring to watch The difference at City, compared to Barca or Bayern, the owners are more able to fund anything that Pep needs to perform his tactical mastery City couldn’t win the Champions League no matter how hard they tried, it’s taken some time, but as always, Pep’s found the tactics and as if overnight - Man City are easily one of the favourites season over season and will be for at least a few more seasons I hate admitting it as a United fan, but City are an insanely dominant team - but the “boring” nature of the play (I think) comes more from the obsessive detail that Pep brings to his tactical analysis of his opponents, not just the size of the team and they crazy money they splash PSG, Chelsea, Monaco…even United are massive testaments to that

I don't hate City I hate seeing the same team win over and over cause of a massive financial advantage that might not even have been legal

@ManCity2027

Ай бұрын

We've spent less than United and Chelsea tho

@Vizeh

Ай бұрын

Chelsea have spent a billion in last 18 months to be fair and are still shit

@D.Rodrigues_18

Ай бұрын

@@ManCity2027doesn’t mean you aren’t richer than them and those statistics are only on player transfers

@Tyler05595

Ай бұрын

@@ManCity2027I’m a city fan but that’s not what FFP is about it’s about a lot more than that we’re being accused of a variety of things for different reasons

@ManCity2027

Ай бұрын

Every club would want our owners , even Stoke would dream of having rich owners . And the owners are supposed to want the best for there club which luckily for city ours do

Saying the league needs to be more competitive is crazy. This is one of the closest, most entertaining title races in a while. City cannot be blamed for being a better run club and for the bottling of other teams

Something that I keep asking myself when i watch city player when I watch City play in the stadium (im a Newcastle fan so i watch them like once a year) is that is there a connection between the fans and the players? Id like to hear city fan's opinions on this because everytime they celebrate a goal, it more seems like the players are celebrating by themselves rather than with the fans. I dont think ive ever seen a city player try to bring the crowd into the game.

I’m a city fan and I’m always getting attacked for being a fan i first became a fan In 2013 I was very young and I had no idea what success actually meant so being called a plastic fan just makes no sense to me especially as I’m not a fake fan I’m actually from Manchester I live in Manchester idk why people think every single city fan is a fake fan we don’t just have fans all around England most city fans are actually from Manchester and you and many other fans may even say different cos city are just hated Edit: i understand we are mostly now hated because of the charges but we were hated even before then too so nothings changed apart from the fact rival fans have been given yet another reason to hate us as a club and hate our fans which they take the piss and say we don’t have any

@user-nr1dx4us4d

Ай бұрын

The expect all fans to be born by 1906 like they were. Pathetic haters

@Tyler05595

Ай бұрын

@@user-nr1dx4us4d I was born in 2005 and got into football in year year 3 at that age I wasn’t to know what success actually was I was just a kid starting to love football simply for how it’s played by the best players like Messi Ronaldo Ronaldinho and R9

@Tyler05595

Ай бұрын

@@user-nr1dx4us4d I’m not denying the charges though I don’t think the club is actually innocent

@user-nr1dx4us4d

Ай бұрын

@@Tyler05595 I don't think they are fully but when they say history and young fans from 2012 don't they realise that some Mancunians can be born by that age 🤦🏻‍♂️

@t.k3579

16 күн бұрын

Became fan in 2013, lmao. You are basically what people think of a man city fan, another generation z glory hunter.

People hate City for a very simple and obvious reason, small teams like Everton get their points deducted for 1 or 2 FFP Charges while City are over here winning every trophy available to them with 115 Charges. It's just not fair to the smaller clubs and even City's competitors like Liverpool and Arsenal.

People play the "other teams are at fault"-card, while ignoring that city has way moire depth with the same amount of games. Simply compare their bench to LFC and Arsenal.

Race isn't done yet though; people act like City haven't lost to a Palace or Villa before, 6 games left. As a Liverpool fan, I'll keep dreaming, Arsenal fans should too

@aisosaihama

29 күн бұрын

Nah, race is khalas now.

For me the 115 charges are just the icing on the cake. My primary reason for hating clubs like man city or psg is that they quite literally bought the success withmoney they didnt earn. Im a bayern fan and god i love the Bundesliga and i would never in a million years want to change for the prem. Bundesligas 50+1 rule is the best thing to ever exist. It literally forbids that an individual or a company can own more than 49% of a club, meaning that the club will always be in the hand of the fans and no investor or owner can dictate anything. Bayern munich are a very strong team, but every € they spend had to be earned. They cant just splash cash that they dont own, just like every other german professional team cant. Every attempt to cheat the system (especially RB Leipzig) are passionately hatet by every Bundesliga fan to the point where every football fan in germany who isnt from Leipzig or under the age of 12 wants them to kill themself. Bundesliga has a level playing field and nobody has an unfair advantage. The prem has sold their soul for marketing succes and it shows big time. I love the Bundesliga

shudda titled it "noone cares about man u" cos then at least u might get someone who cares

Completely agree with you especially what you said at the end: I felt so sad seeing all those empty seats especially when we've seen some incredible last-minute goals from Arsenal this season. Apparently a similar thing happened at Anfield earlier that day and I just can't understand it. Both these teams are so tired but capable of anything when their home fans back them, but when they needed it most, they just didn't get enough of that support from the match-goers.

Man city fan since 2011 here. Was 6 years old when good old city beat qpr and it made an impression of me. Ever since pep walked in and demolished half the team i held dear, since the spirit of the team before had gone, my interest in city slowly diminished. Nowadays, not winning by a massive margin against clubs, because the quality of the team is so high, leaves me disappointed. A loss leaves me disappointed. The only time in the last 5 years as a city fan i have been happy was when we beat real madrid - the only time i have felt like a true football fan. I think city are guilty and are mildly hopeful that it all gets torn down as because when it does, we will need to start again, and work from new. But i also know that it just wont happen. A massive amount of money circulates around man city, an amount which can afford to pay off the entire FA, maybe even buying the league. And a league without man city will be a league without significant competition. Other teams lose titles due to bad luck, a mixture of a variety of circumstances. But as a city fan, i am so programmed to expect success it doesnt even matter to me anymore whether we win or lose, because it doesnt matter anyway, theres a team so immortal in there it will just contend again next year, or the year after. The money will bring in another grear coach, more great talents, theyll keep buying more clubs to make a giant scouting conglomeracy, a massive talent pool, and become in effect a football empire. People fail to recognise it sometime when we buy players from girona or elsewhere, these are just internal transfers 😂 this game is so fucked

Follow league of Ireland. It’s far superior

I disagree on your "oh more than a hundred allegations, some must be true" point. 100+ allegations? I bet none are true. If they really have something serious against the club they would run with the 1-2 serious and provable charges 100+? They have nothing and are trying to make the club guilty without the burden of having to prove. A shame tactic that is becoming common these age, unfortunately

@IZ4DAYZ_

Ай бұрын

I have alot of respect for you man you aren't under the assumption of the media and actually research your facts unlike everyone else

@ronmastrio2798

Ай бұрын

Or the league is trying to inflate the amount of bribes it can get out of City with all those charges.

When Liverpool and Arsenal are top people keep talking about how exciting the title race is. When we're top people start talking shit

In all honestly the biggest thing about this title race is people are sick and tired of the politizatiation of football. We just want to watch the game we love. People did hate United when they were winning but they never doubted the validity of those wins. Now we cant even enjoy anything without being uncertain.

The charges are one thing. Though I've come to dislike Arsenal and Liverpool respectively for personal reasons. I can say their progress has been amazing, can never fault that. But for now, not the biggest fan of em lol. So I love it at current stage that either might not win the title lol.

If city do win this league by 1 point, people might want to think about poor var decisions throuought the season and how they affected the result. Man citys success will always be tainted by their shady background. Ngl as a united fan I wanted arsenal to win it but to be honest, city gonna make it 4 in a row Ps: How about something like a coaches challenge in basketball, where managers can have a certain amount of challenges they can make to refereeing decisions. This would decrease the amount of bad calls. Sure, it would increase the time refs needed,but if they can use var the way ucl do, this could really help.

@Ballotubie

Ай бұрын

You clearly haven't watched city at all this season. We've also had shocking VAR decisions against us

@Chickenbarbeque

Ай бұрын

​@@Ballotubieproblem is, every other team can say the same. Refereeing this season has been horrific, and the pgmol really need to do something about it. Refs take ages to make simple var decisions, and still get them wrong. Look at the ucl, var barely takes any time there and compared to the epl, the difference is night and day.

@tyler_du

Ай бұрын

i think liverpool and arsenal will loose more points due to they disppointment

@sawyertuide7636

Ай бұрын

While challenges could work, the NFL allowing challenges of Pass Interference is an example of coaches challenges not working As much as I hate AI, an automatic VAR is probably a lot more efficient than a manual VAR

@Chickenbarbeque

Ай бұрын

​@@tyler_duI mean there's still a 'chance'if city drop points but, let's be real here, they won't

1 of the only 7 city fans here. I love my club, I love the success, I've been supporting them the day I found out football existed at like 3 years old and my favourite colour was blue. I think though about the charges that if the allegations were to be true then something or even a lot of things would've definitely happened by now in the likes of fines and point deductions but seeing as not one of them has come to light or notice to the public It leaves me to believe that the majority of them have to be BS. Idk tho but it's what I presume because there has been no literal evidence to go against it.

I think its moments like these that decides the title winners. City had come back from losing positions twice to lift the trophy in previous seasons(referring to QPR and Villa games). Liverpool and Arsenal lost their games, and basically gave up their lead to City. Arsenal and Liverpool lose thier home games and Manchester City gets the hate. Its the same narrative going on for years. City have problems during the earlier months of the season, while some other teams are playing exceptionally well and they write City off. But during the business end of the season, City sort their problems and win at cluth moments.

As a Liverpool fan this is very biased but I hate City. I know hate is a strong word but I hate them from the bottom of my heart. Their rule breaking is the reason Klopp isn't 3 times as successful as he is.

@joshua1502

Ай бұрын

Not you lot loosing your shit at home, Aiit buddy.

@nerminpeskovic3439

Ай бұрын

It’s not Manchester Citys fault… you won 1/3 UCL finals you played in. The one UCL you won was a miracle against one of the worst Barcelona sides in recent years, and 9/10 they would have gone through, it was a bad day. Liverpool cannot compete against clubs like City and Madrid, they’re just on a whole other level. They beat Tottenham in the final, no history in the UCL, and lost to actual Champions, Real Madrid, twice. It took a Covid season for Liverpool to win their first premier league title in 30 years because they just get tired at the end of the just as Arsenal was last season. The difference between 1-2 points is just how badly they wanted it, and City wanted it more. The mentality of those clubs are just stronger than Liverpool, that’s all. Any other era we would talk about them like we talk about Barcelona in 2008-2012, or Real Madrid 2016-2018, Ac Milan 1988-1990. But unfortunately, this will be remembered as the City era.

@BoatsNhoes824

Ай бұрын

Your opinion is valued as much as a white crayon dude.

Man city is just the most boring club of all time. Boring crest, boring jersey and colors (baby blue), boring anthem, boring playstyle (heavy european favored with no south american dribbling and creativity). All that combined with having no history and being a artficially inflated by oil money.

City to me are like a force of nature, there’s no identity for me to hate. As a Liverpool fan, it’s like standing on a roof in a storm, getting struck by lightning, and then blaming the lightning.

i think there’s gonna be a huge precedent set from how city’s charges are handled if they get a slap on the wrist, all these other big money clubs will just commit as many violations as possible from now on so they can win their titles and make their money and deal with it in a couple years down the road

As an arsenal fan I’m disappointed that we lost yesterday but by god I definitely don’t want to see city win another title . After seeing Leverkusen yesterday I realised the premier league is gone to shit and forest Luton Sheffield and other smaller teams are carrying this league

@stevenjoseph6048

Ай бұрын

Its hasnt gone to shit lol. Keep on believing in your team. If one bad game made you doubt your club then thats on you. Only 2 points between the top 3 is the closest it's been in years

I think every era of dominance is boring if you wanna put it this way. No one seemed to think barcelona 2009-2012 was boring tho since they were playing beautiful football same here with city and even tho football has changed and it's become more of a managerial game and full of tactics and involving less individual brilliance I think the game right now has better qualities compared to older times and it makes for a better watch all around. just rewatch some games from 15 years ago they were awful to watch...you'll see legends like xavi iniesta messi ronaldo zidane just booting the ball for the 10th time wide off the mark in a single match and I don't care if city are playing it unfair(in terms of having fun watching it ofc, ik no one wants a game to be unfair) as long they are the team making beautiful football I'll enjoy watching them and to everybody that thinks the era of individual greatness is over in football I say watch back the mancity real 3-3 the best two teams in the world going head to head on tactics and winning by individual brilliance

I'm sure there are people out there that will say that it's not pep's fault etc. but Pep and a lot of the current players wouldn't have gone to city without the alleged corruption leading up to Pep signing on. No one in their right mind believes that man city "grew naturally". It was definitely financial steroids which lead to them being able to attract the best talent and coaches. It's the same as Chelsea and even now Chelsea are getting away with shitty behavior with the hotel nonsense.

can’t stress enough if you’re sick of (alleged) corruption and cheating ruining the top flight game, then give your local non league club a go (much better football experience all round)

United winning 7 out of 9: “oh you’re sweet” City winning 6 out of 7: “hello, human resources?”