brb writing down all of these sections so I can make the most incomprehensibly structured song and throwing as much of these in a single track as possible

@anorthkey

Ай бұрын

Yesss fractal-like structured musiccc

@shauryaathe1st259

Ай бұрын

Let's hope David covers that song then!

@ryandugas930

Ай бұрын

Bro wtf

@shauryaathe1st259

Ай бұрын

@@ryandugas930 ?

@hopsiepike

Ай бұрын

Komar and Melamid’s most unwanted song. A 22 minute masterpiece.

Prog is where you see a lot of episodic structure. My band has a song that goes: Intro/A/B/C/D/C/E/Break/F/G/H/G/B

@fathuman

Ай бұрын

hehe yeah. I run a lot of Opeth and Steven Wilson songs into my DAW and mark out distinct sections off to try and find a structure to the songs, and I often risk running out of alphabet!

@Dipwad

Ай бұрын

What's the name of the song and your band? I love prog

@scottmelville3476

Ай бұрын

@@Dipwad Band: Gamma Repeater. Album: Reverser in Neutral. Song: Dinosaur.

@stevehuffman1495

Ай бұрын

Yes may have run out of letters on some songs...

@connorcarbon

Ай бұрын

Haha yeah I'm a progmetal composer and primarily go episodic with our 10 minute songs because they're telling "chapters" (thematic plot points) of the backing adventure fantasy story. but a couple are 4 or 5 minutes long and actually have a couple repeating sections! one is even "normal" with Intro, V, C, V, C, Bridge, Chorus Outro.

My favorite sequence is: AᗺBA

@johndav_iD

Ай бұрын

I like that one too. It's sweeter than Honey, Honey

@CMAATN

Ай бұрын

That sequence makes me feel like i could dance and jive having the time of my life

@nilsisberg5445

Ай бұрын

​@@CMAATNThe theory book on the shelf, the structure's repeating itseeeeeeeeeelf

@scipio7

Ай бұрын

I prefer ABACAB.

@kenkinnally6144

Ай бұрын

​What is the genesis of that structure?

I know we just kind of take “Somewhere over the Rainbow” for granted since it’s been a part of pop culture for nearly a century now, but God, is it beautiful! Judy Garland‘s performance of it still sends a chill down my spine. Just thought that was worth calling out

@althealligator1467

Ай бұрын

I mean it's probably the most iconic song with lyrics ever that isn't some kind of folk song

@jcarty123

Ай бұрын

Here's the weird part: It got BETTER as she aged & her voice declined. Each decade, she put more & more 'grownup' emotion into it. By the end, crowds would scream during her final bit.

@Geronimo122

Ай бұрын

Yes, pure magic!

@lawrencetaylor4101

Ай бұрын

Politely agree bigly.

@philiphumphrey1548

Ай бұрын

The original has a wonderful introduction section "When all the world is a hopeless jumble, and the raindrops tumble all around, heaven opens a magic lane...". I think this is an important part of the song, but most of the cover versions omit it. Another thing some cover versions do which really annoys me is skip the octave jump in "Somewhere", just singing the same note twice. I've never understood why, unless they just can't manage the octave jump.

'Take me out' By Franz Ferdinand has an interesting structure - almost a contemporary example of the show tune structure, with an initial "verse" section in a different tempo to the rest of the song, that never gets repeated. 🤔

Alright you've convinced me.. I'll no longer be referring to the end of my songs as the outro.. from now on I will be calling them by their proper name, the "Outroduction"!!! Lmfao 🤣😆🤣😆🤣

Speaking of AᗺBA, the song Dancing Queen has an unusual structure when after the intro its jumps right into the second half of the chorus (or maybe you could call it a post-chorus). The reason for this, Björn Ulvaeus said when interviewed by Rick Beato, was because otherwise the song would've been too long. It's like: Intro-C2-A1-A2-B-C1-C2-A1-B-C1-C2-Outro

thank you for always adding so many examples in your videos!! it really helps me to understand, especially because i dont know a whole lot of technical information about music!

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Great! 😊

Thanks for this video. I’m a lyricist who sometimes works with a composer partner. I knew many of these terms, but some were new to me. I have sometimes heard a pre-chorus referred to as a “slide.” One thing I’ll say about the bridge, from a lyricist’s point of view, is that it gives the writer the opportunity to offer a side comment on the song’s narrative. It’s an interesting way to bring in a new perspective that you might not be able to express in the verse or chorus.

Holy smokes! One of your best videos yet...and that's really saying something 🙂🎹

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Thank you!!

"Say it ain't so" - Best bridge ever!

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Love that song so much!

@alfiewright1396

Ай бұрын

The best weezer song!​@@DavidBennettPiano

@bhall9129

Ай бұрын

One of the top five songs ever in history...

DBP videos are wildly informative and very accessible, but the real reason I watch these videos is for David's pleasing British accent. Keep up the great work!

Hey! It's interesting because in French we only have the word Refrain, and not Chorus! It's really shows how language also shapes the way we analyse, differentiate, and identify different components of a song.

@Lorenzo_der_Ritter

Ай бұрын

same thing in German, we took the word "Refrain" from the French to mean the same thing as "Chorus" in English

@rafaelbraga920

Ай бұрын

In Portuguese we use the word ‘refrão’. I guess English is the problem here haha 😂

@Oleg_K.

Ай бұрын

Pretty similar situation in Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia/Montenegro - we all just use _"refren"_ for the chorus.

@thestormcrafter

Ай бұрын

@@Lorenzo_der_RitterIn my Band it’s all messed up: Sometimes it’s Chorus, sometimes it’s Refrain, sometimes Strophe and Chorus are on the same sheet of paper.

@DontYouDareToCallMePolisz

Ай бұрын

And in russian there's "рефрен" (refrɛn) and "припев" (pripev) which mean the same thing (at least according to Wiktionary. my personal use of them is kinda "refrain" and "chorus" respectively)

A notable song structure is the one of Lynyrd Skynyrd's Free Bird: two sections, one is a Coda and before the coda there's a section called "something you'd pretend doesn't even exist but you must listen just to get to the Coda"

@maxenloteyro

Ай бұрын

it’s like you physically *HAVE* to, you can’t listen to the coda without the pre-coda thing or else it’ll sound like a dumpster fire

A few song structures that appear a lot in modern worship music (and maybe also in other genres): tag, interlude, vamp, refrain, turnaround, breakdown. There are also modifiers that often get pre-pended to choruses such as: down, up, instrumental, a cappella, etc.

@itnefer4787

Ай бұрын

Worship music - whatever that really is - is not the only thing that uses those labels. Do have a listen to other types of music.

@scotttroyer

Ай бұрын

@@itnefer4787 I do listen to and have written in lots of genres of music. My comment did mention that perhaps other genres use some of those structures too. It’s just that my first interaction with a lot of those structures happened to occur while working on worship music. By worship, I’m referring mostly to Christian music from roughly the 1990s up to today. My experience with Jewish worship music and other types of worship music has shown me that often the entire framework and mindset can be very different from a musical perspective.

As a DJ, I’ve learned over the years to never mess with a coda. Try fading out the end of ‘Hey Jude’ or ‘Don’t Stop Me Now’ and the floor will want to hang you 😂 Similarly with some intro, Gloria Gaynor’s ‘I Will Survive’ for example. The intro and coda are often integral to the energy of the entire song, even though they lack a dance beat.

This is just about the best explanation of musical form I've ever seen. Thank you!!!

19:09 - The example of a front-loaded chorus that immediately popped into my head was "In the Air Tonight". 🙂

@kennet7837

Ай бұрын

I was thinking "She Loves You".

@danielduarte2139

Ай бұрын

bon jovi's you give love a bad name

@user-ve2im3vf5v

Ай бұрын

@@danielduarte2139And Bad Medicine! Althogh there is a short intro

Visually highlighting the different sections of different songs definitely made this the most helpful of several videos I watchd on the subject. Apprecated.

This is so well constructed and clear. Lots of stuff I've been wanting to understand and I feel I got it completely in one go. Thanks so much!

In Bohemian Rhapsody I always considered "Mama, just killed a man..." and "Too late, my time has come..." as two verses, which themselves have an AB structure each. That's because save for their respective endings (the 2nd verse's B cut short by 2 bars going intp the guitar solo which again is on that B's chord progression before it modulates for another 2 bar different ending)

This was brilliant and so helpful, David. Thank you for producing such high-quality videos.

This is one of the topics I struggle the most when composing, as I was not trained in music, just took some guitar classes. My KZread algorithm is flooded with production tips and tricks, but this... This is gold value for me. Thank you.

As always, pure gold. Thank you!

You are genuinely such a bright spot in the desolate wasteland that is the internet. I just finished writing my first EP and learned so much in the process. This video makes me want to go back and examine the structure of my songs and see if I can fine tune them using some of the things you mention here.

One of my favorite "episodic" songs is Thunder Road by Bruce Springsteen. It has the same tempo and time signature throughout, but the melody changes slightly in each section and doesn't repeat. That's why it still feels fresh every time I hear it.

I finally understand a bit that George Burns (guess hold old I am) used to do all the time -- singing forgotten verses to songs where the practice over time had become to jump right into the chorus. Thanks.

@wyattstevens8574

Ай бұрын

Never heard of him!

@georgeschade7462

Ай бұрын

I remember John Bubbles on Tonight singing some of these and wrapping up with what he called the perfect universal first verse. He sang it and segued into the Star Spangled Banner

great overview. for those that are new to music this break down will help to establish some structure in their thinking, and give them some vocabulary for interacting with other musicians in band situations. nicely done.

I love this channel so much

David, another brilliant video.

I can't hit the like button enough. Thanks for taking the time to make this!

Your videos just get better. Thanks.

My favourite vid so far 💪🏻 your examples are so helpful. Been needing this lesson for years haha

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Fantastic 😊😊

Thank you so much for the information!

This was extra good! Favourite video of yours. On favourite examples, Stockton Gala Days by 10,000 Maniacs has a clever structure, with bits chopped up and missed out, lots of pre and post choruses and bridges which help to deliver drive and release... Natalie Merchant often does interesting things with structure, and is well worth looking at in that light.

I have heard ”Refrain” word to be used for the same last word or sentence repeated in every section. ”Can’t help falling in love with you” or ”My way” Are examples.

@Oleg_K.

Ай бұрын

I've heard that as well and you provide great examples. I think these should be better described as _"refrain lines"_ if only to differentiate them further from choruses.

@GingerWaters

Ай бұрын

Yep, ”refrain line” makes sense at the moment. I’m not native english speaker, but as far as I understand ”refrain” means when you keep yourself from doing something. I am forexample this week refraining from coffee to let my body get it’s adenosine levels to natural levels. So in that in mind, refrain would mean, prolonged note before resolution and the repeating line in the end of every song section would be ”resolution line”.

@Oleg_K.

Ай бұрын

@@GingerWaters That's a very nice way of looking at it. As far as I know, this word comes from Old French refraindre, meaning 'break', as the repeated refrain breaks up the sequence of the song/poem. It may go even further back and mean something slightly different in Latin.

I'll never get tired of listening to Bing Crosby's golden voice.

@MrStevos

Ай бұрын

I agree, but then he was such an A-hole !

I'm surprised you didn't mention 12-bar blues. It's a form that's made its mark on popular music, especially in the early days of rock 'n' roll.

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

True. Although I think of 12 bar blues more as a chord progression than a song structure. 😊😊

@BenPrevo

Ай бұрын

Also the one chord vamp - john lee hooker bo diddley etc.@@DavidBennettPiano

@TheHowlingEye

Ай бұрын

​@@DavidBennettPiano lyrics are often AAB, so imo it counts as a structure

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

@@TheHowlingEye yeah fair point 😊

@AliDawn

Ай бұрын

​@@DavidBennettPianoI think I agree that it is a chord progression and the song form is then Strophic as you repeat the 12 bars over and over I.e, it is AAAAAAA (ad infinitum, depending on how many people walk into the room and want to do their own guitar solo 😂).

Another mighty useful video. I knew about the 'missing verse' in (classic) 32-bar form.. but even though I knew a lot of the tunes were from shows, I never saw the movies/shows so didn't properly understand the usage of the verse. Chorus forms were also useful. and the explanation of how the 'Refrain' is often a 'mini-chorus'. Like the 'chord notation' and 'music iceberg' videos, these 'theory history' videos are often the most useful (to me, anyway). Fanx! a heap for posting them. 😀

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

😊😊😊

During Jimmy Buffets first appearance on the Tonight Show, after Margaritaville he sang an old standard (forget which one) and made it a point to include the forgotten verse. Johnny was so impressed that he made it a point to thank Jimmy since it was so common to skip over it

That has cleared up so many questions for me, Thank You

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

One of my favourite codas is the one from Saviour by Prince. It's a complete tonal shift and could have been left out but it all works so well and is by far my favourite part of the song.

Thank you for the great vid!

@DavidBennettPiano

9 күн бұрын

Thank you ☺️

Wow, I was just wondering about this! I was trying to study some songs I liked to try and recreate them but I didn't know how to name parts of the structures for my notes.

I've only just realised that I've been calling it an outro and it never occurred to me that of course there's no such word as outroduction!!

You nailed this, and earned a sub. Looking forward to check out more of your videos! ✌️

Como siempre... maravilloso, meraviglioso, wonderful, merveilleux!

Such a great episode! If you could make one about baroque-classical-romantic era music structures that would be perfect

I'm improving by watching your channel. When you discussed strophic form I immediately thought of 'The wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald'.

I love that you put Judy on here! ❤

David, another great video. Thanks so much! You describe “Wake me up when September ends” as AABA. To me the repeating sentence “wake me up when September ends” ticks all the boxes to be considered a chorus, albeit a short one. That would make the song structure verse-chorus-verse-chorus with your B section as bridge (or middle 8).

@AliDawn

Ай бұрын

Hi there. I politely disagree (with the intent of having a healthy debate, not judging or trolling). One thing David didn't mention about Strophic Form (AAA) in this video but has mentioned in a different video, is that Stophic Form often has a repeating line, usually the last line of the verse. This provides some of the function of a chorus in that it provides a particular repeating, melodic, catchy, line and has a lyric that provides a summary of the meaning of the song. However, it doesn't fully qualify as a Chorus because it is shorter and usually hasn't provided a shift in tonality or dynamic that is expected of a chorus. The term "refrain" could be used here if you wish. I know that this song is not Strophic as it is Binary, but you can still use this repeating last line of a verse in Binary or any other form. When describing or scoring music, there often can be multiple ways of doing it. However, often simplest is key because you are trying to explain an idea to someone else. Therefore, explaining "Wake me up when September Ends" as "ABABA Coda" is easier than saying "ABABCABABABCABABBB"

Awesome video, thank you

what a beauty

I love your videos David, you always seem to put one out about a current topic in my mind! Keep up the good work

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

😊😊😊😊

Gold. Thanks!

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

I have to submit the song rearrangement in the next 1 and a half month but I'm still struggling with basic music theory. Your video helps me a lot, thank you very much T*T. Wish you a happy weekend

Fantastic!

I needed this! ❤

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Excellent!

@awilttondevitto3630

Ай бұрын

​@@DavidBennettPiano❤

Very glad you made this video, I’ve been trying to analyze song structure to try and help improve the flow for a lot of the songs I make. I have a habit of structuring my songs as "building A-section, Bridge, A section again with more elements to make it spicier". It works like once or twice since my songs are instrumental since I don't have confidence as a lyricist, but it feels like a crutch. It feels like a structure I've picked up from listening to (mostly) instrumental electronica like Fatboy Slim and The Chemical Brothers. Also, I remember when Kendrick Lamar’s Good Kid M.A.A.D. City dropped, my one friend who is a rapper was really excited about Money Trees and the structure of that song. He described it to me as, as best as I can remember, “7 different hooks just circling around each other” or something to that effect. I'll have to listen to the song again to see if I can identify the structure it has.

thank you, our favourite music teacher

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Thank you! 😃

I never take any music class ever so I know nothing about this. I listen to a bunch of songs without really paying attention but I know for sure it usually have verse, prechorus, chorus, bridge and sometimes intro and outro until recently I listen to a bunch of kpop songs. Songs from SM like Super Junior 'Sexy, Free and Single' 'Mamacita', Exo 'Call Me Baby", Aespa "Next Level" really made my brain go, "wait, what's this I'm hearing?". It's not the usual song structure I've heard then I checked out genius lyrics and found things like Breakdown, Interlude, Refrain, etc. I watch this vid to know more about song structure as I'm interested and thank you for the explanation. I wish you could explain interlude and breakdown.

Variations is a form that has been used in classical music for centuries but a contemporary version would be building up a song through layering loops, and is popular in dance music and with some street performers (who use loops recorded and played back live, in layers, as an accompaniment).

Great video!

Great video, but surely ABACAB by Genesis deserves a mention? It is probably the only song that (sort-of) describes its own structure!

@KaleyoDuckJapan

Ай бұрын

actually it's ACCAABBAAC

@calebwoods6655

22 күн бұрын

I was screaming at my phone for ABACAB

... Awesome, thanks, loved it 👍

Finally, someone was able to give me a reasonable explanation of the difference between a "Bridge" and a "Middle 8". Thank you @davidbennettpiano !

@AliDawn

Ай бұрын

​@DavidBennettPiano

What a fun video, thank you! I think it's interesting how we start applying structure and "rules" to music based on music that already exists. It's very similar to language, where some kind of consensus has been found out of what is or has been most popular. Still, I'm always interested in experimenting and trying out new stuff. Well, new as in, not neccessarily popular. Of course an unfathomable amount of things has been tried out before.

This was an excellent video

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Please, more on this subject

Very nice explanation! I would be curious about some typical techniques (melodical and rhythmical) that are used e. g. in a pre-chorus. Maybe that’s an idea for more videos? 😊

Bravo! Great explanations, and your graphics are so well done. My understanding of Refrain is: in binary form, when the "chorus" (repeating-lyrics section) begins the song. "This Land is Your Land," by Woody Gutherie.

And then you have trad music, which is just ABABABABABA on infinite loop until your group gets bored, the dance ends, everyone had a solo, or you get too fast to keep going. Love that.

man... this goes way back. First came the Menuet, which is AABA except B is called the trio. And then there's the Rondo, which is ABACA. and then comes Sonata form which really confuses things but I think it goes back further than that but I think all music will always revert back to these first structures because it feels right.

Does the Dave Bennett Theory course go over all these explanations? You're my favorite youtuber by the way. I'm a musician trying to become a songwriter/composer. I know there's a big difference between the two. Thank you

In French, my native language, refrain is still the word we use for chorus. Also, one of my favorite bands that used to pretty much only write through-composed songs is actually the metalcore band Woe, Is Me. Although they now have choruses, their first two albums are quite striking to me as there is almost no recurring part in any of the songs. Quite a big particularity for the genre that I don't see many fans talking about.

Awesome video David, as always! I was wondering if you would include the "Interlude" section, to me the interlude is a short riff/idea/vamp/section that serves as a way to join two main sections, I would label prechoruses as interludes.

Thanks for the interesting video.

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you.

Brilliant 🧇🧇🧇

Utterly brilliant and very helpful. Thank you so much @DavidBennettPiano Am I right in thinking ABBA's Thank You For The Music is a 32-bar form with an old-fashioned verse?

The ABACA or ABACABA form is very common in Rondos, which originated in the Baroque era and continued into the Classical period. A great example is Beethoven's "Fur Elise".

Hi David. Great video. Made me think of a related video idea for you (apologies if you've already done it and I've missed it...). That is songs which are in effect two songs combined to make one. Obvious examples are 'Layla' and 'Day in the Life', but I'm sure you'd be able to source many other interesting others.

Hey! You should make a video about negative harmony, I feel like it would be really interesting. Great work on recent videos btw😆

Hooray!

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

😻

sUper gOOd - as always!

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

This may be my favorite DB breakdown and really help me understand music construction beyond ABAB bridge... middle 8, through composed... who knew?! Well not me anyway. 😂

Wow. When you said outro, Layla immediately came to mind

Excellent. Thanks

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

You are welcome!

Nice video as always. I would like to point out the rondo form; ABACAD. It would be interesting to also see how would you contextualize intstrumental solos and drum breaks.

Yes! Great songwriting tips!

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

I wish this would have been longer.

Great video. David is posed to be the best KZread music teacher

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Wow, thanks!

Rhapsody is a greek term that literally means "sewed singing", which perfectly fits the A+B+C+D+E format!

David I love you!

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

I love you too!

Thanks again for your work. This covered a few things that I was never taught.

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Great 😊

Very informative! 😊 Great examples past and present! 😂

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Amazing video. Always learn so much from your content!

@DavidBennettPiano

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

I'm not sure if this is really a type of song structure, but something I find interesting is when the chorus is extended later in a song. Very often, it is the same lyrics repeated, while at other times, different lyrics are sung in the additional bars. For example, in The Reason by Hoobastank, the first and second choruses are 8 bars long, but the final chorus is 16 bars long with new lyrics in the new 8 bars. PS: Great and helpful video as always! 💖

Excellent summary! I wish to see it 20 years ago when I was discovering these songs patterns on my own:-) Should I blame myself for not making a video about it then?

12:15 Even in Classical Music Pieces, for example in Mendelssohn's Rondo Capriciosso, the first Section Andante can be considered as a verse, and the second Presto Section is the Chorus.