What some people don’t realise about VAR, is that the technology is absolutely not the issue. The technology works if the right people use it and the right rules are in place that officials apply to VAR. There needs to be changes made to it, removing VAR would do nothing, there would still be as many if not more incorrect decisions.

@BarcelonaRussia

2 жыл бұрын

That’s why Arsenal is finished 😭😭😭😭

@Isleofskye

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but we can INSTANTLY and NATURALLY celebrate like we have done for 130+ years before. All the joy and fun and emotion is sucked out by SECONDARY celebrations of a SCREEN.........BIG BROTHER IS TRULY HERE...

@archiewall124

2 жыл бұрын

@@Isleofskye that’s the biggest negative, but if VAR can help correct more incorrect decisions then imo it’s worth having. Right now that’s not happening which is why it needs changing.

@archiemckenna759

2 жыл бұрын

@@BarcelonaRussia u forget barcelona isnt even close to getting fourth

@naseemb.7292

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to give these mugs a piece of my mind I came across this comment....100% agree. I think VAR is one of the best things that have came to football in recent years. People don't like it because they can't get away with a cheeky goal anymore. Back in the day, if the ball ended up in the back of the net...almost always, the goal would stand unless somehow someway, a ref was in the vicinity and clearly saw that the goal only went in because of a hand ball for example....or if the linesman was gutsy enough to raise the flag even if he doesn't feel 100% accurate on the call and he'll hear it from the fans afterwords. VAR provides that angle where nobody else could see on the pitch. It's whether or not the person USING VAR is capable of pointing out the mistakes the correct way.

I agree with pretty much all but Thogden you're wrong about the last Harry Kane one, if Robertson doesn't jump and has his leg firmly on the ground, that tackle/foul could be a career ending one. The force that he goes in and with studs up Kane could've easily done some bad damage.

@lukasf.b1572

2 жыл бұрын

But he didnt. It wasnt on purpose. Since People say struijk didnt desrrce red against elliot this shouldnt either

@BoydC2008

2 жыл бұрын

But he did jump and didn’t have his leg planted. If i killed someone I would be arrested but I didn’t so I’m not

@felixloaring2169

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukasf.b1572 the only time he touched the ball was with his hand i can think of at least 5 identical fouls that were given as reds off the top of my head

@tommurdoch1616

2 жыл бұрын

He went in studs up about shin height, completely missed the ball and had a lot of force in the tackle, it's a desperate and late attempt to get the ball but it's a red card challenge all day everyday.

@tommurdoch1616

2 жыл бұрын

@@BoydC2008 and when someone goes in like this and actually injures a player badly everyone will say we don't want to see that in football, rules have been changed to try and protect footballers from getting career ended and this couldve been a lot worse than it was and it was only because Robertson saw what stupid tackle Harry Kane was doing and jumped out of the way, still clipped him though

My honest conclusion on all of them is that VAR is operated by a bunch of referees who let their personal preference get in the way of judgement. Another thing I've found increasingly frustrating (they've also pointed this out on MOTD) is how the VAR officials make these decisions and claim they couldn't find a suitable angle when the pundits and ex players can find one in a matter of seconds.

15:24 he got the ball?? With his hand, eyes closed, studs up. If Robbo doesn’t just he’s broken his ankle

I'm a Liverpool fan, and I think Jota is an absolute baller however as you both said there is no way it's a pen, he's clearly looking for something after his bad control. Love the Content lads! 👍💙

@dropout2169

2 жыл бұрын

Why a blue flag. Ur a Liverpool fan

@Jarbeeefis

2 жыл бұрын

Jota > firmino

@dirksaturn3211

2 жыл бұрын

You are clearly Not A Liverpool Fan but A Everton, Crystal Palace or Chelsea Fan bc you are putting blue flags on a comment claiming Ur a Liverpool Fan

@dirksaturn3211

2 жыл бұрын

You are clearly Not A Liverpool Fan but A Everton, Crystal Palace or Chelsea Fan bc you are putting blue flags on a comment claiming Ur a Liverpool Fan

@darraghkenny903

2 жыл бұрын

@@dirksaturn3211 you clearly are fucking annoying, have pissed off Leicester, city and Brighton fans for forgetting them

Harry Kane: Handballs the ball Thogden: It's not a red he got the ball

If Andy Robertson doesn’t jump there that’s a possible broken leg, I don’t know how anyone can argue that that’s not a red card

@tuhonglam9418

2 жыл бұрын

That’s not a red, he’s studs are up but his foot was not raised high that wasn’t a two foot challenge either, so that is not a red a foul or a yellow card is fair

@tommurdoch1616

2 жыл бұрын

He was late, studs up, reckless and it was shin height it only looked lower because Robertson jumped

@tuhonglam9418

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommurdoch1616 if Robertson jumps it’s his buissness because he jumps he didn’t get injured so when Kane went in to that challenge he’s studs were up but only caught Robertson’s foot so Robertson will only probably get the most a bit of bleeding that won’t cause any injuries so that’s not a red.

@tommurdoch1616

2 жыл бұрын

Like in F1 it shouldn't be based on the outcome it's a reckless tackle that was studs up, misses the ball because Robertson kicks it first and it was still pretty high, red all day everyday, reds have been given to players for the exact same tackle

@tuhonglam9418

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommurdoch1616 if you look at it again his studs were up but not a dangerous challenge Robertson jumped so the results were diffrent the tackle got the ball and Robertson’s leg if that was a two foot challenge that would’ve been 100% a red card

Thogden is so biased for english players and he doesnt even try and hide it 😂

@tigerstripey4885

2 жыл бұрын

That was clearly for the comment section to start buzzing. How neither of them mentioned the fact that Robertson had to jump to avoid Kane's studs is astonishing. Definite bit of bias there! It's all for the reactions.

@shivaprasadn9342

2 жыл бұрын

Experience vs Youth. That' says it all

@notmaldonado

Жыл бұрын

And tbh im half way And i can say as ref Var didnt make a mistakr Arsenal vs palace thogdad sayd yellow and i think everyone says red and it should be but that is a mistake form var, but what thogdad sayd isnt allowed of var thought itw was yellow than they are not allowed to ive it its red or nothing Brentford pen shouldnt be talen over cause the player isnt part of the game, if he scored the rebound the defence should have had a free kick

@notmaldonado

Жыл бұрын

Oh and title fight doesnt make in var

Villa fan here- seeing Ings’ goal disallowed by VAR in the FA cup against united was about the most infuriating VAR decision I’ve experienced.

@dropout2169

2 жыл бұрын

UTV

@carnagetiwer5078

2 жыл бұрын

UTRD

@professoremeryofavfc

2 жыл бұрын

UTV

@LJplayz382

2 жыл бұрын

Same utv

@rhiannoncarpenter3973

2 жыл бұрын

Come on the villa we're gonna win the league

15:00 he didn’t win the ball, robbo lifted it over kane and it hit kanes hand. straight red for me

@AndyHynes

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree and I'm a united fan

@raikoshumi

2 жыл бұрын

If robbos foot is on the ground there thats a quadruple leg break. Disgusting from kane, as per usual.

@TITAN-qt8bn

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@jackieburgess9972

2 жыл бұрын

He didn’t need to slide tackle it’s not in there box

@Ben-ng3og

2 жыл бұрын

I think both of them are easy reds but I’m happy the Kane one wasn’t given cause it was just a proper 90s passionate brexit tackle which gets the fans if their seat and I think football needs more tackles like that

The worst thing about mcarthur’s challenge is that saka puts all his weight on that one leg, and it’s been kicked at full power. Straight red for me, would love to see other opinions

@CantEatFlutes

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not having anything about it being clumsy. It's SO late. He's not even tracking the ball. Blatant violent behaviour for me. It's an atrocity that referees in the world's best league are such petulant cunts.

@EnzoCFC

2 жыл бұрын

100%

Tottenham vs Southampton was controversial, when Fraser Forster dropped the ball and it went in, they gave it as a Southampton free kick tho. Could argue Kane wasn't offside too

I’m a Liverpool fan right, and i can admit that robbo’s challenge was a stupid one and it was a red card, however if that’s a red card then so is Kane’s. It’s reckless and dangerous and if it had been a different player apart from the England captain it would have been a red. How can VAR tell the ref to look at one challenge and not the other? It’s the inconsistency

@stevie6472

2 жыл бұрын

100% correct...

@switchclips9711

2 жыл бұрын

It’s annoying just because he is the English captain he gets away with it and robbo who is the Scotland captain does a foul that is a red he gets a red but kanes that was way more aggressive wasn’t allowed it’s just stupid

@stevie6472

2 жыл бұрын

@@switchclips9711 yea... refs and pundits do anything to make sure star players dont look like the antagonists. Ronaldo did a similar challenge, to Robbos red card offence, on curtis Jones when liverpool beat Manchester United 5-0 and got away with it just because he is Ronaldo. Theres no consistency.

@meganradcliffe8834

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevie6472 exactly

@meganradcliffe8834

2 жыл бұрын

@@switchclips9711 totally agree

I'm a Norwich fan and I remember Krul saving a penalty from Aubameyang and one of our players encroached into the area and the penalty was retaken and subsequently scored. That Brentford penalty should have been retaken regardless of it's outcome.

@isb213

2 жыл бұрын

the difference between the two is that the player who encroached in the norwich game was the one that subsequently cleared the ball after the save. in the brentford game the player running into the box makes absolutely no difference in the outcome of the penalty.

@dhanf0077

2 жыл бұрын

@@isb213 fax

@chuck-1423

2 жыл бұрын

What about Ronaldo's dive against u when he converted from the penalty spot

@louisclark6051

2 жыл бұрын

@@isb213 literally makes NO difference , as the rule is written you cannot be in the box before the ball is kicked , it's a rule that isn't enforced and other times should be , just enforce the fkn law and stop just making it up as you go along that's all people want.

@isb213

2 жыл бұрын

@@louisclark6051 that’s not the law. The law is the penalty should be taken again if the encroaching player has a material impact on the outcome of the penalty

What about the disallowed goal by Kane as he "fouled" Thiago Silva this last gameday.

@olaoluwaoyekan3406

2 жыл бұрын

its a foul by kane and even if thiago fell lightly kane still had his hand on his back and shoved him so its a foul

@SpursAccess

2 жыл бұрын

@@olaoluwaoyekan3406 It's not a foul since Kane's arm wasn't folded in any instance of the "foul" meaning it wasn't a "push". The referee should've left it for VAR to decide rather than marking it off right away

@nealjeffers12

2 жыл бұрын

It was a foul 100%, you could argue though that the challenge on Sarr should have been a red!

@nealjeffers12

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpursAccess It was later checked and re-checked and found a foul...if you are running at that speed shove on the back is a foul as it takes the defender out as he would have gotten the ball before it reached Kane.

A former referee once said to me that if an elbow is intentional, then the fist of the player will be clenched. That is the natural instinct. So I think the ref got benteke's red completely wrong. It should have only been a foul.

@x-urnan1279

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he had a yellow before that so he got a double yellow.

Whoever’s in charge of the premier league and var, they need to watch this video even if it’s to learn from previous mistakes And there’s a fare few

Man being a Liverpool fan I felt like we kind of found are way into the title race with bad decisions up until that criminal tackle on Robertson plus the fact that we got our first red card that game out of nothing it really pissed me of we should have won that game

I'm a Villa fan and I'm surprised the incident between Ramsey and Schmeichel hasn't been included causing a goal to be disallowed. Where he supposedly had control of the ball while only having 1 hand on it. Then the following week the same thing happened in a cup game and the outcome resulted in a goal.

We actually love Thogden and his dad when they talk about facts as they do it always! Have love from us.

Manchester City's penalty vs Wolves was the worst decision of the season. Doesn't even hit Moutinho arm

@BarcelonaRussia

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Oil $ity?

@mi-tm8vb

2 жыл бұрын

i am a city fan but i agree

@mi-tm8vb

2 жыл бұрын

@@BarcelonaRussia bantercelona fan lol focus on Europe league

@anonymousgamer4336

2 жыл бұрын

@@mi-tm8vb I'd say focus on Europe but you won't win anything

@vinaychiplunkar1988

2 жыл бұрын

@@mi-tm8vb Career destroying Club Coutinho,Griez, Dembele Tired Messi Carried them for Years after Njr ,xavi, Iniesta left him See the state now

Always look forward to watching you😁

At 9:03 I think what you said about rules not being enforced, I'm not sure if it's the same.in premier league, but in efl football no ref ever gives shoves in the back which is stupid. Love the videos lads💙

Great content like always good videos keep going ❤️🤩

the benteke one vs west ham was two yellows for the same thing jumped for a header twice and recieved yellows in return

Up the TDL!🙌🏾 So consistent🙏

@infinityplayz3574

2 жыл бұрын

Well done your first

@thogden

2 жыл бұрын

💥

@BarcelonaRussia

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t change the fact that Barcelona is bigger than whole premier farmer league ❤️💙

@vllaznimtroni2022

2 жыл бұрын

@@BarcelonaRussia Mate Im Being Honest With You, Your Not Going To Get Anyone To Support Barca

The kane one just shows how thogden don’t know ball, Thogdad army 💪💪💪

1:02 Blueberry

As a West Ham fan, the goal against us by man Utd was definitely onside however both teams played crap that day and neither team deserved to win it

Lost some respect there for Thogden at the end, saying Kane's challenge on Robertson wasn't a red. Had Robbo not jumped up, he would have broken his leg. Whether that touches Robertson or not, the intention is clearly there from Kane, and he shows no regard for his opponent. While Robertson's red card later on in the same game, while correct, was nowhere near as bad as Kane's challenge, and further proves the bias towards him. As Thogdad rightly said, had it been any other player than the England captain, it would have been a red. Kane is continually protected by the English referees and the media, who allow him to get away with stuff others are hounded for. Whether that be a challenge, committing a foul, or seeking the contact for a penalty. Kane is a dirty player! End of.

You guys are so good! I love you guys ❤️

‘That’s something out of the Vietnam war’ had me on the floor 😂

The fact that we can only get 10 decisions from the last year and one of them was about a player going into the box before an penalty shows that VAR has had a great impact

@user-hn7em9kn2q

2 жыл бұрын

theres hundreds they only picked 10 tho they even said if they get 10k likes they will do a part 2 with 10 more

City fan here. I can sorta see the debate of whether the foul on Silva was a pen or not, but the Odegaard one was very clearly not a pen. Ederson's leg gets to the ball b4 Odegaard, and doesnt collide with him in any way. Odegaard simply tripped on Edersons leg. not to mention that ederson made the ball change direction, indicating his touch was valid

@teveelgedaan5197

2 жыл бұрын

As an Arsenal fan i agree with you

8:15 its only if they interfere with the play after encroaching that its called back

The first one with the Brighton defender it hits his back foot and deflects to his hand which was level or even further forward than his front foot. The reason he is leaning over is because he was running and the ball was played behind him and he knew he had to stop the ball and when stop running and stretch out you back leg you lose balance and full forward

VAR isn’t the problem it’s just the refs

Im a southampton fan and maybe Armstrong should have been sent off who knows but during the first fixture Kyle walker completely took out Armstrong and it wasn't given. For me thats easily the worst call this year in a game we should've won.

please do this again for this season . VAR's gone crazy

Love your videos

I would like var if it used right because in the World Cup it’s class

@honormike6101

2 жыл бұрын

True

Harry Kane should of been sent off. He went into the challenge with his studs up which is dangerous play. I bet if that was anyone else they would of been sent off. Referees are getting worse.

The legends are back !!!!!!

I love how this channel isn't biased

8:10 really annoys me. I am a Man United Fan And the pen in Man Utd vs watford was retaken And this one wasn't. Show some consistency VAR!😡 Anyway another class video from the best in the business.💪 Up the TDL!

@matthewdelaney3919

2 жыл бұрын

Different mate keeper was off his line

Thogdad nailed the Arsenal City decisions. Hit the nail on the head.

@BeastBoy69631

2 жыл бұрын

that game was rigged anyways.

As a Watford Fan, and i saw that on Match of the Day and that is where VAR is needed to look at that decision. We had one similar in our game against Man United where Feminia encroached and VAR looked at it. So VAR should of looked at it

2:01 it's like having an extra leg down there. Michail Antonio: 🙃

@neondefault8023

Жыл бұрын

💀

1:20 penalty 2:50 maybe just a yellow 4:46 penalty 5:30 red card 6:55 no penalty 8:20 no goal 9:38 yellow at most 11:30 onside 12:35 penalty on Silva but no pen on odegaard as ederson got the ball 14:19 red card and later on red on robbo as well

@IJezza1994

2 жыл бұрын

incorrect it's on encroachment if they interfere

6:48 Jota realises he has lost control so changes his line and runs into the keeper. No Penalty This is the problem with VAR because they’ll only show the image of Jota Colliding with the keeper which gives the impression it’s a penalty.

@floweryfreindlyguy8407

2 жыл бұрын

Clearly a man united fan

@OLMOT-xp3mu

2 жыл бұрын

@@floweryfreindlyguy8407 Clearly not. I’m a Leeds fan. That’s why it says MOT (marching on together) in my name.

@kinglords7106

2 жыл бұрын

@@floweryfreindlyguy8407 clearly Livarpool fan

@genoric4094

2 жыл бұрын

@@kinglords7106 scenes when you realize that Manchester United have quite a lot more VAR decisions gone in their favor since it was introduced compared to “LIVARPOOL”

@kinglords7106

2 жыл бұрын

@@genoric4094 like i care

I think the best way to make better decisions using the VARs is to bring in an unbiased umpire, like in cricket where the third umpires are mostly from other nations and don't take the side of a particular team, which assures to give both the teams an unbiased decision in any match. Same can be done with the referees in football (soccer for the English people).

Gunna need a part 2 after this week 🤣😂🤣😂😂

14:06 this a red card for me if Robertson didn’t jump would have be hard to watch plus this is the same scenario Of arsenal vs Man City at the ethiad when xhaka won the ball but it was dangerous and got sent off it’s just inconsistent in my opinion

1:16 Pen 2:40 Red 4:15 Not a Pen 5:30 Red 6:46 Not a Pen 8:08 Retake 100% (Seems like they only do retakes if you miss at the moment) 9:36 Yellow 11:12 Onside (Very close though) 13:11 Not a Pen (I can understand both sides of this though) 14:12 Red (If Robertson didn't jump that could of ended badly) Should do more of these so people talk more about VAR and how inconsistent it is.

I totally agree with thogdad on the Harry Kane tackle

There are certain things in life: Death Taxes Thogden changing his video title

The Brentford penalty is totally fine. As long as the infringed player doesn’t interact with play. They will be alright.

@htwhtw2423

2 жыл бұрын

Still bad if there was a rebound he’d be there

@joshg2603

2 жыл бұрын

@@htwhtw2423 but if he touches it. Then the penalty should be retaken.

VAR is a positive thing. Just because offsides are close it doesn’t mean they aren’t off side. And we always talk about the wrong decisions but never talk about the countless decisions that VAR gets right. Yes there are some decisions that are made wrongly but overall it has had a great impact on the game.

@br4804

2 жыл бұрын

@Craig Glassford why?

@hpanes005

2 жыл бұрын

I semi agree with you, should be a foot lengths margin for offsides imo, but I agree the principles alright they just haven’t stuck to the ‘clear and obvious’ rule

@Isleofskye

2 жыл бұрын

Do you actually ATTEND games Craig?

@craigglassford8533

2 жыл бұрын

@@Isleofskye I go to all home games of the club I support and a handful of away games and why would that matter. Just because fans are left in the dark for little bit doesn’t mean VAR isn’t a good thing. As long as good decisions are being made more often.

@craigglassford8533

2 жыл бұрын

@@hpanes005 yeah with the offsides I guess that’s a rule change needed but that would be hard to police as we’d need to start measuring foot lengths. For me the rule with offsides maybe should be any part of the body you can score with (basically everything but arms) but i guess whole body is easier to officiate

no doubt about that

5:50 HOW CAN THAT NOT BE A RED

i’m a liverpool fan, how can you be saying the ederson vs newcastle one is a “stonewall penalty” but the jota and guita one isn’t? they’re the same challenge. why do so many people have it out for liverpool we’ve been done over by the refs more than anyone on numerous occasions e.g. kane on robertson, yet everyone acts as if the refs favour us it’s a joke

@nrgjstn4053

2 жыл бұрын

Jota deliberately ran into Guaita after he saw he controlled it terribly he even looks up at Guaita it’s not like he was looking down and he lost his balance

I hate var

the david coote one is right what you said was harsh, he pretty much taught me the basics of being a ref

would love to see you do a video of you ranking every single scottish football league kit

First

The reason that I've seen why kane wasnt sent off is Because apparently Robertson was already jumping up when kane was going into the challenge meaning Robertson is already trying to get out of the challenge to avoid a more serious injury

Kane got the ball with his hand

3:06 proper brexit mate🍻

15:20. Red Card. Kane does a two legged challenge and in slow mo when you see Robertson’s fall you have to say its a red

Instead of using the VAR to check each incident, let each team have two chances to challenge and use VAR every match. If the team believes there was clear foul and decision should be reversed, they can challenge and use help of VAR.

I am a Crystal Palace fan I went to the game against Liverpool and I’m not sure if we could’ve won the game but if that was given as a goal kick or free kick to palace we could’ve had a fighting chance to equalise

“It’s like having another leg down there” - Theo

It's funny how almost all these situations involve big clubs

Thogdad talks sense. Experience matters

Same here in German Bundesliga too…

The " arsenal young boy " 🤣😂

Thogdad's right, especially on the Harry Kane challenge. Definite red.

Same in serie A. But the most on Roma

We're Kane tackled Robertson looking at it Kane handballed it

15:24 - "there was no contact with the player"

14:26 that a red card for Harry Kane plus the ball hits his hand in a unnatural position.

You should have added Kane's offside goal vs Southampton, I was watching it live and that should have been a goal!

Thogden getting his fishing rod out with the Harry Kane opinion

my guy thogdad you know football

I think ederson on Ryan fraser isn't a penalty tbh cancelo literally has the ball at his feet and it's just a collision

4:36 As a goalie ederson needed to think before he went that was a pen

How is Harry Kane's "offside" vs Southampton not even mentioned? That was the most blatant onside yet they marked it off.

At 7:39, I do think it's not a pen but at the same time I do because of that defender had a high boot in the box which could have been a pen also

1:22 “Thogdaddy”

What Thog does not realise that there's two things wrong. 1. Red card. 2. Hanball

14:47 thogdad spitting fax

14:25 I think it's a straight red. I love harry kane but it's a yellow for the challenge and another yellow for the handball.

You should actually do a video on disallowed goals of Tottenham against Chelsea and palace it’s just outrageous

For the kane tackle I agree with thogdad because he went in with the studs

8:09 The rule is that as long as the player isn't involved in the run of play (eg scoring a rebound) it is legal

My problem with var is one week they give a offside by a hand or half a head but then other other week in the same situation they say onside, they change the rules all the time

Kota thought the ball went the other way But the you can see that he tries to move away

3:10 if that was any team but Arsenal Thogdad would have said it’s a red. But because it’s Arsenal he said it was a yellow

Can we please have thogdad and thogden replicating harry kane and Robertson incident it will be a heck of a content !!! hahahahaha.

I’m a Liverpool fan but if you see behind Diogo he’s trying to shake of the defender,but like you said Jota’s eyes are looking at Guiata he ran into him but he was trying to shake of the defender