Every Team gets Promoted or Relegated

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Welcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2023 experiment video Every team gets promoted or relegated in the English Football League, causing absolute chaos in FM23.
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  • @bababababababa6124
    @bababababababa612411 ай бұрын

    MK Dons getting relegated from the National League is pretty much how I expect their next few years to be 😂

  • @gui18bif

    @gui18bif

    11 ай бұрын

    Let's hope

  • @huntungriffle8121

    @huntungriffle8121

    11 ай бұрын

    Up the fucking dons

  • @archiesmith6023

    @archiesmith6023

    11 ай бұрын

    i hope not mate

  • @AtomicSpino

    @AtomicSpino

    11 ай бұрын

    Im a dons fan and we had a dreadful season, literally last season we got third then we place 21st? They're not fit to wear the shirt

  • @core_russell3869

    @core_russell3869

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@AtomicSpinoas a Newport County fan, it's the same here, we were in the play offs the other year and now we're crap

  • @neffersonjickel3901
    @neffersonjickel390111 ай бұрын

    This was an interesting experiment! I'd love to see one where the English pyramid gets 0 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, and 3 points for a loss. The worst teams would rise to the top, get Prem/European money, get better and then start getting less points. Cups, Europe, and Internationals would stay the same as they are in real life.

  • @Sirjohnfootball

    @Sirjohnfootball

    11 ай бұрын

    What a f*cking stupid idea

  • @NathanHeaver

    @NathanHeaver

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes that will be fun

  • @TomFM

    @TomFM

    11 ай бұрын

    Great idea!

  • @timokarff6162

    @timokarff6162

    11 ай бұрын

    @@TomFM Based on that: What would happen if a win and a draw both get you 2 points, and 1 point for a loss?

  • @Will_Flatt

    @Will_Flatt

    11 ай бұрын

    @@TomFM come on Tom we should do it

  • @M4tth3wH1
    @M4tth3wH111 ай бұрын

    As a Leicester fan seeing this after we actually got relegated irl, watching us finishing 6th in this is just so painful 😂😭

  • @TomFM

    @TomFM

    11 ай бұрын

    Maybe you'll manager 6th in the Championship next season? 😂

  • @M4tth3wH1

    @M4tth3wH1

    11 ай бұрын

    @TomFM maybe haha. Got to get the recruitment right on and and off the field before we start thinking about getting back up. Great video btw, keep up the good work 👍

  • @Koeienmelker09
    @Koeienmelker0911 ай бұрын

    Fulham did very well, 3 Europa League's, 2 Champions league finals and 1 conference league Final. (This was nice to see as a Fulham fan)

  • @DefensorLF
    @DefensorLF11 ай бұрын

    Tom what if you made it so top 5 euro league teams had to play with south american nation rules (for example, all english clubs get put into brasil , having to play with brazil's selection rules and calendar, spain into argentina's calendar, italy into chile ect) and the other way around (brazil teams into the prem, argentinian in la liga)

  • @BuckledFrame2187

    @BuckledFrame2187

    11 ай бұрын

    That would be sick.

  • @kaironogueira5604

    @kaironogueira5604

    11 ай бұрын

    Super!

  • @christianlenik5307

    @christianlenik5307

    11 ай бұрын

    Phew Sevilla, Eintracht, etc. Vs Al Ahly, Zamalek

  • @Theepicgolem123
    @Theepicgolem12311 ай бұрын

    6:39 i cant imagine the amount of cleaning that spurs did to that dusty trophy cabinet to fit in those league cup trophies

  • @liamthomas9622
    @liamthomas962211 ай бұрын

    I'd love to see the English leagues have the "Belgian playoffs" and see if that affects what happens up and down the leagues

  • @fabianbailey488
    @fabianbailey48811 ай бұрын

    UP THE BROMLEY BOYS 🎉🎉🎉

  • @bababababababa6124

    @bababababababa6124

    11 ай бұрын

    2nd best club in London (after the mighty hammers ⚒)

  • @Dutchintheheart

    @Dutchintheheart

    11 ай бұрын

    No

  • @ZvenoGaming

    @ZvenoGaming

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Dutchintheheart yes

  • @jakedavies5899

    @jakedavies5899

    11 ай бұрын

    Hereford on top

  • @loganclark1206

    @loganclark1206

    17 күн бұрын

    Just got promoted into the Efl through playoffs

  • @zHawkC
    @zHawkC11 ай бұрын

    The strangest thing about this is how consistently low the goal difference is. Would expect the prem teams that stay top 8 to all have massive GD vs the yoyo teams. Also saw some league winners with only +20 GD which seems really odd

  • @erethjallsen8819
    @erethjallsen881911 ай бұрын

    You’ve been killing it with the cool ideas recently! Love it Tom!

  • @bensquires2819
    @bensquires281911 ай бұрын

    Missed Newport County being stuck in the conference and Southend going up.

  • @daansaras138
    @daansaras13811 ай бұрын

    Hi Tom, I like the idea and I'm curious how the teams in The Netherlands will do. Do you have a shortcut how to easily change the competition rules? Thanks in advance!

  • @OzgurOri

    @OzgurOri

    11 ай бұрын

    .

  • @core_russell3869

    @core_russell3869

    11 ай бұрын

    This needs more attention because I need to know now

  • @SpoopyGamer
    @SpoopyGamer11 ай бұрын

    FA Cup "nobody out the ordinary won it" Bruh, a small team like Everton won it twice

  • @senanjackson3364

    @senanjackson3364

    11 ай бұрын

    Since when are Everton small?

  • @SpoopyGamer

    @SpoopyGamer

    11 ай бұрын

    @@senanjackson3364 Always were, Always will be

  • @senanjackson3364

    @senanjackson3364

    11 ай бұрын

    @DomRawR ah well that definitely isn't true, they're a big team. Big team doesn't just mean the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool, sue even Newcastle are big

  • @rogercrane1767

    @rogercrane1767

    11 ай бұрын

    Must have started watching in the last decade, or joking. everton are historically massive

  • @SpoopyGamer

    @SpoopyGamer

    11 ай бұрын

    🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣

  • @gumpastee
    @gumpastee11 ай бұрын

    This is a really good idea. I'm impressed by your originality

  • @GYFC420
    @GYFC42011 ай бұрын

    Idea:in the first szn only 1 team gets relegated but 1 more team gets relegated every season until every team goes down except for 1st place and then they would win

  • @Noname-uo2oz
    @Noname-uo2oz11 ай бұрын

    Really loving the videos for a while now Tom, you deserve the 100k🔥

  • @TheKoesti123
    @TheKoesti12311 ай бұрын

    Can you change the qualification spots for Europe? What if all second leagues of a nation (so Championship, Ligue 2, Serie B, Bundesliga 2, ...) get all the qualification spots for Europe?

  • @stephenfrankland485
    @stephenfrankland48511 ай бұрын

    love to see this as just the top and bottom 10 change, leave a few open spots for maintaining league

  • @joshualiley
    @joshualiley11 ай бұрын

    I think it would be more interesting with an 8 up, 8 stay, 8 down model so that teams could get a foothold and have the chance to spring up without having a massive dwarf in class all in 1 go

  • @gracielynn9623
    @gracielynn962311 ай бұрын

    I love to see you make a video about what if you replaced the bottom eight English championship sides with the top 8 USL championship sides from last season. Could be quite interesting.

  • @villabear
    @villabear11 ай бұрын

    Fairly new subscriber here. Love the content. I’d like to see a completely random football league. All 92 sides get randomised into their league. Probably a lot of work but interesting to see how quick sides drop and the cream rises to the top.

  • @Fizzydog77

    @Fizzydog77

    11 ай бұрын

    This would actually be really cool, I second this!!

  • @vangoal172
    @vangoal17211 ай бұрын

    Tom thank you very much, your content is really cool, sending you love from Tunisia 🖤

  • @TomFM

    @TomFM

    11 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it! Love to Tunisia!

  • @christianlenik5307
    @christianlenik530711 ай бұрын

    0:08 "ELITE" Lincoln 😂

  • @TomFM

    @TomFM

    11 ай бұрын

    Got to represent

  • @christianlenik5307

    @christianlenik5307

    11 ай бұрын

    @@TomFM On My Manager Savegame, Lincoln won the FA-Cup... ...while being relegated to National League...

  • @guismodrum78
    @guismodrum7811 ай бұрын

    Very entertaining, thank you Tom

  • @cameronlinley96
    @cameronlinley9611 ай бұрын

    "Wrexham seem to be the biggest Yo-Yo club of all time" THEY ARE ALL YO-YO CLUBS TOM

  • @TomFM

    @TomFM

    11 ай бұрын

    You make a good point...

  • @crowreligion
    @crowreligion11 ай бұрын

    Lets expriment this Win - 3 points Draw - 1 point AND add 0.1 to k unless k is 2. k is 0.5 when each season starts. k has a minimum limit of 0.5 and maximum limit of 2.0 Lose - all your points that you have currently collected gets k times itself. Also, if k isnt 0.5, reduce 0.1 from k. Additionally, to get more draws, there is no overtime.

  • @Rugby0nTop
    @Rugby0nTop5 ай бұрын

    I love how Burnley just did not change the entire video

  • @Ant_FM
    @Ant_FM11 ай бұрын

    Get in! Stoke won the conference league 😊 that has made my day! If only if it came true. Brilliant video Tom that was a great one.

  • @samtyler689
    @samtyler68911 ай бұрын

    59 year old be celebrating a European trophy in Portugal would be nice! (Also just nice to see Charlton doing well in a save, we’re usually rubbish!)

  • @ah_effe
    @ah_effe11 ай бұрын

    You should do a save with reversed prize money in the top 5 leagues and europe too. (Like 1st in england get the least amount of money)

  • @Bcfc2011
    @Bcfc20114 ай бұрын

    At the start when he said it’s not looking good for the blues I’m like ugh cuz that’s my team and FRANK LAMPARD OH HELL NAH luckily we got prometed back up

  • @aaronroberts291
    @aaronroberts29111 ай бұрын

    Do a rebuild of Newport County from their European stints in the 80’s. Every video nowadays they go from L2 to the 7th tier and would be good to see them succeed

  • @EuanBCFC
    @EuanBCFC11 ай бұрын

    6:24 I mean, Yeovil have literally done exactly the same as Scunthorpe irl, but in a shorter time period

  • @user-iw4ue8zz1n
    @user-iw4ue8zz1n4 ай бұрын

    I loved that my club (Bath City) did appear in this video 3 times 😊

  • @MNFM21
    @MNFM2111 ай бұрын

    thanks for doing my suggestion xD

  • @frog605
    @frog60511 ай бұрын

    hi tom, good vid. can you rank all of the FM games that you have played

  • @BhlackBishop
    @BhlackBishop11 ай бұрын

    The top prem clubs probably poached all the good players that got relegated hence getting stronger and stronger every season. That sweet first division money must be well shared across the country by now.

  • @flak509
    @flak50911 ай бұрын

    CHAOS! I love it Tom 😂😂

  • @GenericZac
    @GenericZac11 ай бұрын

    Doing this experiment with all ten tiers of English football would be mayhem

  • @caseyjennett7446
    @caseyjennett744611 ай бұрын

    Interesting one for you. The most successful team in the European competitions each season get relegated to the national league (or equivalent). Should spring some interesting results me thinks

  • @teddietubehd5307
    @teddietubehd530711 ай бұрын

    You should try a reverse table. 20th win the title 20-17th all get Champions League 16-15th Europa and 14th Conference. Those in 1st, 2nd and 3rd all get relegated.

  • @lewiswoods2012
    @lewiswoods201211 ай бұрын

    PLEASE HELP ME, where in the pregame editor can you chnage the promotion and relegation spots i have looked in keague standings etc but cannot find it anywhere

  • @waveringvermin2102
    @waveringvermin210211 ай бұрын

    York promoted to league 1, all we have to do is wait until 2062 and hope someone in the FA has an aneurysm and implements these rules. The dream is alive…

  • @danmoody8244
    @danmoody824411 ай бұрын

    Interesting concept would love to play this as mod in fm

  • @jamesminor8576
    @jamesminor857611 ай бұрын

    That 2026 League One season was MAD!!!

  • @andylindress
    @andylindress11 ай бұрын

    How do you do this Tom in the editor? Have you got a video you can share or a link?

  • @Billymortzz
    @Billymortzz9 ай бұрын

    Need to redo this but with every single league in England, would be very interestint

  • @ellibod1
    @ellibod111 ай бұрын

    Is this available on the steam workshop? The all team’s promoted or relegated thing

  • @nhantnt
    @nhantnt11 ай бұрын

    1:46 LOL Also Gillingham is one of my favorite teams, it's great to see them in the Championship, then the National League, then the National League again, to League One, to League Two. Never a premier league though ;-; And as a red, it's funny how Man Utd was relegated in their first season :V

  • @englishdragon88
    @englishdragon8811 ай бұрын

    I’ve only recently discovered your KZread channel and I’m already a big fan of it I was just wondering how you’re doing videos like this? Is it from the steam workshop? If not where? I currently play FM23 and I’ve got the English league to the combined county leagues I can’t remember what step that is on the football pyramid but I’m going through that I’d love to play through the game with your mods that you have showcased and would like to know where you get the mods

  • @S1NON54

    @S1NON54

    11 ай бұрын

    he is using in-game editor, than he just simulates seasons and makes saves to check them in the video

  • @copious983
    @copious98311 ай бұрын

    I think if you had a prom/rel play-off between the leagues it might have looked very different

  • @72Reiss
    @72Reiss11 ай бұрын

    Love that experiment!

  • @S1NON54
    @S1NON5411 ай бұрын

    West Ham after being relegated to championship and promoted to Premier league every year: I`m movin up and down, side to side like rollercoaster

  • @ryancheung2399
    @ryancheung239911 ай бұрын

    What a great experiment. Curious to know how many managers got sacked because of the relegation

  • @cundsmobile4540
    @cundsmobile454011 ай бұрын

    I have a idea give a random no legue team man citys team and see how long it takes them to get promoted or if the players leave before they get to a champions league

  • @nazgulcanellas3047
    @nazgulcanellas304711 ай бұрын

    How you did it? I have the editor and i don't see this type of options

  • @mhdk677
    @mhdk67711 ай бұрын

    10:20 what's the background song? Sounds so much like a Danish song. Have tried looking up if it's a sample but can't find anything

  • @BigD4ddy4G
    @BigD4ddy4G11 ай бұрын

    MK Dons in 2062 getting relegated from the National League 👌🏻

  • @JayStanTheMan
    @JayStanTheMan11 ай бұрын

    What if you moved the MLS, the entire league, to England and placed it right in between the Championship and League One? MLS teams could be promoted to the Championship or relegated to Leauge One and I’d be very curious to see where they ended up after 50 years!

  • @brentton2
    @brentton211 ай бұрын

    2:05 you’re wrong there as Halifax Town, Bromley and Southend United got promoted instead of Stevenage, Harrogate Town and Newport County

  • @harrytmm
    @harrytmm11 ай бұрын

    someone needs to make a datatbase of this

  • @austinberwick4927
    @austinberwick492711 ай бұрын

    watford loved coming 9th in the premier league

  • @llSuperSnivyll
    @llSuperSnivyll11 ай бұрын

    6:22 It could be worse, such as getting relegated anyways when there are only 4 relegated teams.

  • @samuelmarron5875
    @samuelmarron58755 ай бұрын

    Middlesbrough actually came 7th in the 2004/05 season to qualify for Europe the second time around…

  • @mclark8857
    @mclark885711 ай бұрын

    mental that in the first season Man United got relegated and qualified for the UCL at the same time

  • @nadzmipaktam
    @nadzmipaktam11 ай бұрын

    Hi Tom. I have an idea. You can build a league with the all champions team from UEFA Coefficient ranking 1 to 20. You also can do vice versa by using last place team to see who's team the worst 😂.

  • @oscarscadds36
    @oscarscadds3611 ай бұрын

    Weymouth (my local club) got to league one lol like that’s ever going to happen ever

  • @nickysturzu
    @nickysturzu11 ай бұрын

    Maybe you can create an experiment like the Super League, but with promotion and relegation, like Super League A, Super League B and so on...

  • @jacobthompson5697
    @jacobthompson569711 ай бұрын

    You should do every team is in the promotion playoffs next

  • @GingerTwat1
    @GingerTwat111 ай бұрын

    I just subbed (at 99k) reloaded and you were then at 100k 👍👍

  • @GingerTwat1

    @GingerTwat1

    11 ай бұрын

    Also you hit 100k

  • @MOONPSLA
    @MOONPSLA14 күн бұрын

    South Shields is where I am from!!

  • @Mr1nv1s1ble
    @Mr1nv1s1ble11 ай бұрын

    Anyone else notice that at the end of the 2041 season, Newcastle went down but had a UCL spot? Did they win it and finish 10th?👀

  • @charlespickering1416

    @charlespickering1416

    11 ай бұрын

    Probably won the europa league

  • @Mr1nv1s1ble

    @Mr1nv1s1ble

    11 ай бұрын

    @@charlespickering1416 I did also think this after posting 👍😆

  • @Mr1nv1s1ble

    @Mr1nv1s1ble

    11 ай бұрын

    @@charlespickering1416 also, why can’t your name be Ronnie?😂🤣

  • @charlespickering1416

    @charlespickering1416

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Mr1nv1s1ble Ronnie has done so much damage to the Pickering name...

  • @Mr1nv1s1ble

    @Mr1nv1s1ble

    11 ай бұрын

    @@charlespickering1416 who?

  • @YTVossy
    @YTVossy11 ай бұрын

    You should turn the money around. So national league teams are earning premier league money and vise versa but for all the divisions.

  • @einarjuel
    @einarjuel11 ай бұрын

    You've successfully simulated a two-party system

  • @John-hh8lq
    @John-hh8lq11 ай бұрын

    SUGGESTION #1: Is there a way to change the game where the team get the amount of points per how many goals they get in a match? e.g. Arsenal 5 - 3 Spurs... Arsenal get the 5 points (obviously) but Spurs would still get 3 points although they lost? SUGGESTION #2: Start all teams in all the divisions in alphabetical order or TOTALLY randomise all teams in all the leagues and see where they end up over 50/100 years? SUGGESTION #3: Incorporate a Draft system like the USA do in NFL where the best players are picked from a list?

  • @noddyjoe
    @noddyjoe11 ай бұрын

    Ah yes, Tranmere fan here - seems we dropped out of existence entirely!

  • @Gavin8708
    @Gavin870810 ай бұрын

    Yeovil Town did what Luton Town did but backwards💀

  • @jonathanthompson2912
    @jonathanthompson291211 ай бұрын

    How do you add extra promotion Nd relegation places

  • @davidarends668
    @davidarends66811 ай бұрын

    I wonder if any of those Conference League winners were playing in the Championship when they won

  • @GamingTimeNL
    @GamingTimeNL11 ай бұрын

    Do an experiment before the Bosman Arrest, so every team in Europe can only play 3 foreign players

  • @Trollolmen
    @Trollolmen11 ай бұрын

    Hey Tom, the experiment was really interesting! We would like to try this with a friend, would you have a link to download the database ? Thank you in advance

  • @natashaabdu
    @natashaabdu10 ай бұрын

    0:07 Bro actually put Lincoln at elite

  • @gdparry2727
    @gdparry272711 ай бұрын

    Imagine if it went back to only champions go in champions league like the early 90s.

  • @jeffreyboggleton
    @jeffreyboggleton11 ай бұрын

    9:26 LET'S GO WE IN PREM BOIS

  • @thetrainhub390
    @thetrainhub39011 ай бұрын

    Is this a mod I can download on Steam?

  • @NaNa_waffler
    @NaNa_waffler5 ай бұрын

    Charlton in the prem and winning the conference league 🤩

  • @noah45675
    @noah4567511 ай бұрын

    would be more interesting if you focused on the prem/championship clubs

  • @frankshaw6243
    @frankshaw624311 ай бұрын

    Can you do a vlog at chesterfield vs Matlock

  • @dillon2493
    @dillon249311 ай бұрын

    newport were actually the first team from league 2 to be stuck in the national league

  • @justzaxx7150
    @justzaxx715011 ай бұрын

    Love seeing Gills get some love in a video

  • @TomFM

    @TomFM

    11 ай бұрын

    They had a superb start! Wouldn't be surprised to see them promoted next season irl!

  • @justzaxx7150

    @justzaxx7150

    11 ай бұрын

    @@TomFM As a Gills fan I hope so too, hopefully we can face Lincoln again next season!

  • @jameswg13
    @jameswg1311 ай бұрын

    Wonder what this did for manager hirings and firings every season

  • @archieplays03
    @archieplays0316 күн бұрын

    Can you do a tutorial to simulate 100 years into the future?

  • @LordWay
    @LordWay11 ай бұрын

    Relegating Exeter is something i'm taking personally 🤣

  • @benN303
    @benN3035 ай бұрын

    Hi what r u playing on

  • @joshlucas4867
    @joshlucas48674 ай бұрын

    Think this is the first fm video that morecambe have actually been mentioned…ofc not for a good reason

  • @emmadestcroix9079
    @emmadestcroix907911 ай бұрын

    Up the blades

  • @mrchigago
    @mrchigago10 ай бұрын

    as a preston fan it hurts to see blackpool and blackburn achieving European glory whilst we yoyo between league 1 and the championship 😂

  • @svokxz6435
    @svokxz643511 ай бұрын

    Imagine this happened in real life.

  • @turts9359
    @turts935911 ай бұрын

    Is this database available to play?

  • @99dndd
    @99dndd11 ай бұрын

    Last day of the season, 12th vs 13th. The winner will spend the next season 2 divisions higher than the losers.

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