you have no idea how badly i wish the opening of vow was considered an encounter just so we could all collectively rank it at the bottom

@giratinathe_distorter7480

Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t that bad, it’s way more annoying as part of the preservation mission than as the raid as a whole, I personally find it kinda fun and chill before the seriousness of the actual first encounter

@saltymr.potatohead4897

Жыл бұрын

@@giratinathe_distorter7480 I couldn't agree more, at least in the raid you had 5 other guardians help kill stuff and move the encounter along quicker.

@Spenceroffanap

Жыл бұрын

IVE SPENT ENOUGH TIME AT BARGE. NO THANK YOU

@harrybutler7365

Жыл бұрын

@@giratinathe_distorter7480you somehow managed to get the worlds first incorrect opinion🥇

@lapizprime9199

Жыл бұрын

Movin with the payload

The fact that riven and Val Caour were back to back raids is nuts. Two straight bangers

@darkconnz5088

Жыл бұрын

💀

@moonwhooper

11 ай бұрын

​@@darkconnz5088?

@qazisgone7292

25 күн бұрын

​@@moonwhooperI guess "two straight bangers" meant something else to him

This list shows how good vow of the disciple really was, if it wasn’t for the day 1 experience being so unfortunate for many teams including myself; people would love this raid.

@MaybeRocks

Жыл бұрын

So far Vow has been my favourite raid, nearly surpassing VoG (nostalgia keeps it no1). But, as a musician, I also enjoy the raid scores and deep stone lullaby has my heart in absolute shambles. I was unlucky in the first years of D2 as I could only do Leviathan, the rest I couldn’t find a team or I didn’t play much.

@aidencoleman2872

Жыл бұрын

I think how slow the entrance actually is is a detriment to the raid, if entrance could be sped up someway it would be so much more enjoyable

@VallornDeathblade

Жыл бұрын

Vow is absolutely my favorite raid but every time I consider running it fresh I remember that I have to do the entrance again... and that encounter just sinks time and kind of sucks aside from a bonus chest.

@MaybeRocks

Жыл бұрын

@@VallornDeathblade I’m ok with the entrance cause I get to hear Mara Sov for like 30 seconds 🤣🤣

@pbear1988

Жыл бұрын

I hate the first symbols encounter but maybe that’s just me

Dogs is an amazing encounter. It's the only other stealth-themed encounter besides Gorgon Maze in the entire franchise. It had teams doing callouts of which spores to go to and when to wait for dogs. The amount of stacks you acquire for it simply depended on how quick the team was. A more successful stealth section lead to a more successful damage phase. The encounter was merciful in that you had three damage phases. Everyone had an equal roll (Kill your own dog). Dogs varied in difficulty based on how far away from the safe zone they were. So more skilled players could handle the farthest dogs and the rookies can take the closest ones. Challenge mode threw extra dogs which changed the routes you had to take and now made it a priority to converge on the last two dogs as a team.

@roundraccoon6141

Жыл бұрын

I loved dogs too. It just got powercrept is all. I remember you wanted at least 48 spores when on the first week.

@seanslaysean7097

Жыл бұрын

I wish we had more stealth encounters

@thrinefeng

Жыл бұрын

What is dogs

@GonAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@Teastott

Жыл бұрын

@@thrinefeng it was an encounter in the original leviathan raid. You had to kill war beasts that were high health(not really) to finish it. And before damage phase you had to sneak around and avoid them to get spores stack to do bonus damage.

Having 3 people to teach Garden AND doing a Div run, nothing could be harder

@kagekitsune98_56

Жыл бұрын

I used to teach 5 people at the time (div included) Its about a 2-3 hour ordeal, But i enjoyed it

@just.some.dud3

Жыл бұрын

@@kagekitsune98_56 Same. Then I decided I hated myself less and stopped.

@kagekitsune98_56

Жыл бұрын

@@just.some.dud3 i still hate myself. But nobody is interested in garden anymore, so thats why i quit Funnily enough, my fastest teaching run was about 1.5hours with me having no mic. Me literally texting what they need to do🤣🤣

@isadlysaweverything9809

Жыл бұрын

​@KageKitsune98_ couldn't agree more. It entertaining to teaching that raid, but sometimes people don't want to learn and listen

@i_fuze_hostages6

Жыл бұрын

I got a very good teacher and learned the whole raid in like an hour or so

I love the look Oryx remastered gave the guardian that shot witherhoard at 45:51. “The fuck was that?”

Definitely make a jumping puzzle tier list, that would be great and I’ve never seen that before

@alejandroaguilar9850

Жыл бұрын

It would be world's first

@averageperson9708

Жыл бұрын

We all know deep stone lullaby would be first

@xdifficultviper9916

Жыл бұрын

@@averageperson9708 idk kingsfall’s dick wall might be more iconic and was actually difficult/annoying in d1

@Tornadospeed10

Жыл бұрын

@@xdifficultviper9916I personally like the ships jumping puzzle better

@theprmstrful1

11 ай бұрын

Still waiting for a jumping puzzle tier list.

"vault isnt any higher because 3 people do most of the work" also "crota is cool because i can do it myself"

For me it comes down to Axis or Rhulk. My mind was blown the first time in them. Rhulk STILL gives me the same feeling of adrenaline every time I fight him. They did so damn good with the encounter Wrath overall is a 10/10 for me. Axis is so damn cool, the whole room is awesome

@Captain_Yata

Жыл бұрын

I cannot wait for Wrath to come back

@saltymr.potatohead4897

Жыл бұрын

Ever do Aksis on hard mode while completing the challenge, it was Riven (non cheese) level difficult, it kind of surprises me more people don't talk about it.

@Captain_Yata

Жыл бұрын

@@saltymr.potatohead4897 The fight flowed SO WELL though

guess bungie heard you called them cowards and wanted to one up vault in edge

I like interpreting DSC in the way my friend showed me; Atraks-1 is the final boss encounter. She was the biggest threat, the one who had the access to Darkness (the objective of the entire Beyond Light campaign), the one with the final-boss-level mechanics, and the one with the ultra unique setting and feel. Everything afterwards is like Queenswalk; wrapping up the collateral damage caused by the raid’s final boss.

I know it's kinda odd, but my favorite encounter of all time is Exhibition from vow. Not even a boss encounter, it really makes you feel like you're progressing through the raid, while also being very tough on master and pretty well balanced on normal in terms of ad density and speed.

@evanf1997

Жыл бұрын

I agree it's a great encounter

@JKris27

Жыл бұрын

Trio or Duo Exhibition is some of the most fun you can have raiding imo

@roundraccoon6141

Жыл бұрын

Perfect balance of mechanics and adclear

@samboengenglish3022

Жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree. Finding 6 people who all know what they are doing makes it a blast of an encounter and everyone gets to have a role there is no “I’ll just ad clear”

@thrilla72

Жыл бұрын

It is a shame that so many on LFG don't understand communication and prioritising wiping out ads quickly. I absolutely love the music for Exhibition. Loved beating the challenge on master with skilled players

Riven still makes me incredibly sad. Such a great encounter with so much thought and love put into it.. Just for people to cheese it. I remember during forsaken I used to fight people who wanted to cheese it in my groups.

@lordpumpkinhead265

6 ай бұрын

If it makes you feel any better, I'd be willing to learn how to beat Riven legit since finding people who know how to actually beat Riven is extremely rare.

@LOVEMUFFIN_official

4 ай бұрын

Riven legit is the most fun you can have. Always a joy to kill her and cut out her Taken heart.

@Goopie12

2 ай бұрын

I have begged my friends how to teach me Riven Legit but none of them want to do it. If you want I’d be willing to learn and we could get a party together to do it!

I gotta say as a frequent teacher of raids, Vow gets by far the most praise from my groups after we run it. Such a good raid.

Man, I was wondering what I wanted to watch tonight! Thanks for this!

Love the content man!!

Aksis is my favorite encounter of them all. It was just so much fun and the music cleared. Siva Density Critical really made you feel like if you didn’t get to safety you were done. Hopefully we get wrath back, it’d be amazing to play it in destiny 2. Riding the siege engine off the cliff was also amazing.

Great vid Evan keep up the good work

i love evan and the effort he puts in these videos!

Great video brother!

Great video!

25:53 what a rollercoaster of emotion, I went from getting into that somber music and crying to laughing so hard at Taniks with legs. Keep up the great work Evan.

There are few things as epic as being the last runner on Queens Walk. I remember dunking that thing on like my third LW run and it was one of the best feelings of my life. Especially after we wiped a few times on the encounter, had a long raid and we were tired. There are few encounters like it.

Caretaker with its triumph challenge is imo the best encounter we've had, same with 1st encounter Loved scourge's final boss too, and atraks when done properly over cheesing it, they're all perfect examples of getting everyone involved with intersting mechanics that keep you thinking, unlike daughters of oryx, which could put me to sleep if done one too many times a week

Seeing an hour long evanf1997 video makes my day please do more rankings

I really loved SotP and hope it will come back to grand me a second chance at threat level. The raid was jsut fun to do and while shields may have been the worst of all encounters in it, it was still fun to do

Season of arrivals holds a special place in my heart as I'd never would have gotten proper fireteams for Galran and Val Cauor. I never would have expected Galran to be this high on a list but I whole-heartily agree. One of few bosses that require every single one of the 6 fireteam members to step up their game. Val was super hard as well and very engaging.

@VallornDeathblade

Жыл бұрын

Galran and the encounter before him is the only thing I ever low manned (because half the LFG group left after 1 wipe and the other guy in there just grabbed his Day 1 placement friend and we went for it). It's a LOT of fun to low man because the whole thing is on hidden timers that you don't even realize are there until you have that low-man pressure. Once you have that down, it's almost like a dance, you can predict "ok we're about to have deceptions" and prep for them.

I was already subscribed but your excellent take on the third encounter in Vow makes me want to subscribe to your "very real" OF. Finally, another person who has taste.

great video bro love the channel keep it up

I've been praising val for so many years now I'm so glad it's at 2 thank you Evan for putting it there 😁😁😁

I’ll always find Rhulk to be the best boss. He’s an incredible character, being so cocky throughout the entire raid, only for us to use everything he throws at us against him. The music, the atmosphere, the buildup, and then the fact that you need to avoid him going goblin mode during damage phase. Plus he’s the first disciple we fight as well as being an entirely new race of character. It may not be the best mechanics wise, but everything else is perfect.

Did I hear a “violence, speed, momentum” and a “two time” reference in the Garden opening encounter dialogue? Dr. Disrespect would be proud! Yours Truly, Champ 😉🤠

I find it crazy how Morgeth is left so low for his health bar but Templar is left much higher despite having more hollow mechanics and dies waaaayyy faster than Morgeth The Sanctified Mind design is peak btw

I remember I was getting home from work late and thought the raid race was over and I see the Sweat was still streaming I tuned in and they where just about to finish vault and I kept watching and seeing Riven for the first time was an experience I'll never forget still get chills to these day.

Riven is my favorite by a country mile, the mechanics aesthetics and narrative of the raid had all been building to this point and were nearly flawlessly executed. We’ll never get another raid like last wish

rankings for the jumping puzzles/other raid secrets would be a cool video

My clan finally sat down and learned riven legit after all these years. Easily one of my favorite encounters of all time. So much fun. Hell we think its easier than trying to cheese the dps meta of a given season, and way more fun

@JDxxatteis

Жыл бұрын

Wish they would fix the cheese definitely my favorite raid encounter when done the correct way.

@rechailosabajo4526

7 ай бұрын

@@JDxxatteis i like that poeple have a choice sum poeple only do raids for the loot you know

Completely agree with this list. Never played wrath. Extremely excited for the remake :)

A jumping puzzles ranked video or even a dungeon encounters ranked video would be amazing to watch

I really miss Spire of Stars, I used to teach 5 people the raid at a time. It'll be back again someday hopefully with wardcliff coil DPS being patched out.

I unfortunately missed a couple of raids so can’t really rate them, but I think I agree with this list mostly. Great job. I’d also love to see a jumping puzzle list. I think we all know what number 1 will be though. Especially if we’re grading on music.

If Riven ain't #1 I'm gonna riot.

@L0OPER

10 күн бұрын

Not any more

Thank you My clan always gives me crap bc of exhibition. It has everything from quick thinking to frustration but for me it always makes me take a breath of relief after finishing or a smile when my team finishes it in 1-2 tries

I feel like the encounters should be looked at from the perspective of doing them the first few times. Encounters like the Pit, Dogs, Gorgon Maze felt so much more tense and fun than any RoN for instance.

Jumping puzzles list would be sick! Also I firmly believe that RON was originally designed as a dungeon

Aksis (challenge + hard mode) is and probably forever will be my absolute favorite encounter

Spire of stars, and Scourge of the past, has always and probably will always be my 2 top favorite raids off all time, it's such a heartbreak both are gone, Val Ca'our was our nemesis so many times, and I tried and tried and tried to keep my clan mates to get into it, but nobody liked the raid, was such a bummer to always go with LFG's on it. I remember speed running Scourge without OoB glitches, was so amazing each time you got a better time. And Legit riven, must be without doubt the best, encounter, ever.... such a shame (almost) nobody know how to do it theese days. Amazing list Evan, thanks!

Great video. Agreed with almost all of these! Gahlran's deception was definitely one of my more fav bosses. The whole everyone had to do something made it fun. I personally loved the Vals Ships in spire cuz it was challenging. Scurge of the past's vault encounter is also fire. Loved having to always move. The riven way is also rly rly fun but yea..the cheese kinda kills the encounter

honestly i think root of nightmares was a dungeon and the planet room was ripped from the final shape raid and bungie added some wipe mechanics. Most of the encounters beside the planets can be done solo. just a thought

@sarcastyc7471

Жыл бұрын

Ye the mechanics are definitely dungeon-level and a disappointment. personally i was thinking what happened with third encounter was that they came up with it during witch queen because of savathun's prophecy of being able to move planets. when they couldnt come up with ways to flesh that mechanic out across multiple encounters they scrapped everything but the original encounter and made connect-the-dots for the rest of the raid.

@imrunningoutofnames2413

Жыл бұрын

Yeaaaa I always thought the planets were out of place since they had nothing to do with the rest of the raid and they were actually difficult

Leviathan and last wish are just amazing experiences. Every other raid just feels like long missions.

You should’ve talked about the music in the third phase of vault in last wish that fills you with sheer panic that a boss might appear

I think oryx og was amazing. Yes he took a while to kill but he actually felt like a god since your guns didn’t do anything

My two favourite Destiny memories were a week 2 last wish completion doing Riven the proper way, and doing a full Crown of Sorrows run with zero communication and everyone just knew what they were doing.

Deep Stone Lulluby is my #1 Destiny song. It invokes so many emotions. Hearing it for the first time with my new raid group after my old clan disbanded... it will forever remind me of those that I lost. Friends I had in Destiny 1 that I lost to disease, and the new friends that I've made in Destiny 2. I may be biased, but I think it's the best song in the francise.

Val Cauor was always my favorite boss, specifically for how it was just a lot of simple mechanics put together, and that I loved baiting LFG plebs into letting me teach them, and then watching them writhe in agony as they miss the ball throws in the final stand.

DSC is my favourite raid. Glad to see it isn’t trash by evan’s standards.

I love that ppl were using Midnight Coup in Val Ca'uor and then STILL on Riven. That gun NEEDS to come back.

Small sidebar three-maning totems and being solo on left totem is easily one of the hardest challenges to learn if u have only done the raid a couple times. The timing and consistency needed is redicoulous with the amount of ads

The first time I did Crotas end in d1, the pit at the beginning scared the shit out of me 😭 me and my friends were like 8 years old running around not knowing what to do

Just ordered my nezarec shirt im hyped

Yes. PLEASE do this for all jumping puzzles. (Maybe even doing one video for D1 and a DIFFERENT video for D2.)

so happy gahlran is so high up. GOATED bossfight unbelievably well designed

Exhibition is such a good encounter, so so so much fun

I remember doing Leviathan way back before Beyond Light. We got to Calus and right as we we’re about to kill him, he became immune and wiped us. I swear he only had like a sliver of health left.

I feel like the add clearing type encounters should be modelled to be something like the veil defence part of the last mission of Lightfall. Have an area to defend, but also have really high add density as well as mini bosses like tormentors or hive guardians spawning throughout. The mission had turrets to hold control of that could help you, but maybe a raid encounter could have an enlightened type mechanic to stop enemies from capturing zones.

I would love to see a best jumping puzzles in destiny history vid, I have some that as a new light I hated doing lol

Yo binging all your videos at work and when I say all my co workers looked at me laughing so hard when you said “garden farmers who can’t get bitches” I mean it 😂

The fact that you put pit above acquisition makes me reconsider the fondness I had for you

What Evan said starting at 26:03 actually hits hard. Because I just lost my cat yesterday and never got to say goodbye to her. Good timing there Evan.

Garden is still a top three raid for me. Ironic, considering I also used to hate it. Now, it’s one that I love to do just for shits and giggles. Also patiently awaiting the return of my favourite raid, WotM.

Not Evan casually teaching everyone how to do Riven

Didnt mention the crota pit ping. gotta love launching yourself to the top of the encounter or dying trying

I haven’t really played d2 I only did leviathan and the lairs, but I played d1 fanatically and I love all the raids In that game. I love Aksis phase 2, easily my favorite raid encounter and one of my favorite activities in gaming period

I’m really missing the year 1/2 raids of destiny 2. I only got to do spire once and didn’t even finish and same with crown. Scourge was a really fun chill short raid that you can just have fun with

man...last wish was the best raid and my favourite raid, i wish they would make something of that scale and quality again. I still remember going to sleep after watching worlds first, waking up, and realizing it was still going on

I did scourge 21 times, and i got always on time 4 times and anarchy about the same amount, and each time i got another, over half the raid needed it. Good good times

Riven seems dope i didnt even know that all those mechanics existed i have only done it once and that was with cheese

Great vid. And the mass effect music in the background for the summary is just *chefs kiss*

I have no Idea, but my top 3 raids are Crypt, Wrath, and Scourge, the fallen raids just hit different

Evan when he gets his food served on a PLATE: "Gosh f**ing damnit!"

First and second encounter in Ron are both very fun to speedrun

Exotic quests tierlist would be amaizng

I was expecting a tier list starting from d1 vog all way to nezzy, think wouldve been better but still another banger

There is also one other small change they made to Templar. In D1 if you chose the always block Teleport route. You only had to run between two of the locations instead of watching all four. I also think his teleport is way slower now

Aksis hard mode while completing the challenge was right up there with Riven (non-cheese) imo. It was chaotic in a good way, very challenging, and was one of the 1st raid encounters that required every team member to be on point or would wipe,there was no carrying the weak player. Val Ca'our was amazing too, especially with the restricted loadouts we had to run with, if you ever went back and played him post Forsaken the encounter was significantly easier, still was fun as hell though. I feel that you put the Sanctified Mind way to high, it was a decently challenging encounter the first couple times you ran it but it got incredibly easy once the mechanics were dialed in. It was fun putting enemies down quickly with the recluse (pre-nerf) but I felt that it was easily one of the most boring final boss encounters Bungie has ever given us (even Crota was always fun to watch even if you didn't do the damage).

Exhibition is my favorite raid encounter of all time. I love going in with my actual team and choosing no roles. It is so much fun every time

I think everyone can agree VOW will go down as one the best raids ever, up there with last wish and kingsfall. Nothing can beat a big dude kicking u in the face

Hopefully we’ll see a master LW some day where the cheese is fixed, the add clear guy in both rooms on Riven gets an actual mechanic to do, and Riven’s final stand gets turned into a proper execute phase like reprised Oryx. They could leave the rest of the raid mechanically untouched and those tweaks would make it a 10/10 imo

Some of my favorites are: The Vault from last wish The Rapture from DSC Pretty much all of vow Just to name a few.

Even though I love Rhulk at it is my favorite encounter due to it being the first raid I did with some of my friends, riven is truly the most impressive and overall best encounter in destiny at the moment and honestly I doubt anything will top it

Seeing this makes both sad and happy I have never completed Last Wish. Sad as in I really want to do it, but have nobody who really wants to do it as intended. But I’m also happy in that if I were to have completed it, very high chances are was because it would’ve been cheesed.

Love to see the Val Ca'uor love! People only hate it because they know that they actually have to do mechs and not ad clear lmao

Crazy to see crotas bridge be put before the awful slog that the first encounter is.

Rhulk makes me drool, I love that fight so damn much

justice for garden, it has a special place in my heart

Riven is special to me because that was my first raid boss in destiny 2. Even though I was hard carried, it still is my favorite thing that I've done in D2

You know you can run all the encounters in Ron with more than 2 people, it’s actually a lot of fun. You kinda made it out to be like only 2 people could do stuff when that’s not at all the reality

Bungie didn’t make spire of stars vicarious visions did pretty sure. So glad you put that #1

Base Leviathan is the thing that got me back into Destiny 2. It’ll always hold a special place in my heart🫡❤️

Oh god I remember spending 8 hours to do a div run with 5 people (including me) who had never done the raid, with just 1 poor dude teaching everyone, we went through 6 whole LFG rotations before we finally finished