Joker's classic mode allies are a reference to him capturing the shadows and turning them into his personas since that's what happens in the game. Just wanted to clear this up, great video overall!

@MosesX-Labs

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s what I was thinking. The people that get their hearts changed don’t team up with the Phantom Theives.

@Aaronitmar

3 жыл бұрын

Persona isn’t my speciality and I knew there was a good chance I’d miss something. Thanks for clearing it up!

@SuperCaptureDevice

3 жыл бұрын

@@Aaronitmar And it's not evil people, it's corrupted people. And only Futaba, who also has her own heart willingly changed, joins the Phantom Thieves.

@smashybox

3 жыл бұрын

It also reminded me of persona 4 where your friends become your party members once you beat their shadows.

@steelbeans

3 жыл бұрын

Similarly, that isnt Dark Meta Knight, just an evil looking skin. Weird they didnt use DMK

I love how Byleth just brings the squad in to fight the hands. It was really enjoyable to just see these two get jumped, especially when they kinda just kill most creative theming with Classic Mode Runs.

@micheledelloglio5820

3 жыл бұрын

The fun fact is that Byleth bringing the whole squad to the fight is a reference on how FE works, recruiting allies and fight alongside them

@Underworlder5

3 жыл бұрын

@@micheledelloglio5820 would be interesting if the opponent of one battle would fight alongside you in the next. could help with easing that massive difficulty of byleth classic mode

@firewolf950tfwgaming7

3 жыл бұрын

@@Underworlder5 Personally Byleth’s classic mode is doable solo with the only problematic round being the 2 corrins because how they hell do they have such good synergy?

@Underworlder5

3 жыл бұрын

@@firewolf950tfwgaming7 that is what gets me too. the first couple fights are easy. the awakening cast are slightly harder, but are easy to isolate. the corrins? huge difficulty spike. they outshine you in basically any strategy, whether you try zoning or going up close, and byleths poor throws combined with the stamina setup makes cheesing arguably more difficult than fighting normally. the battle against the other byleths are slightly easier, since they tend to restrict themselves to each weapon (none of which aim upwards, making them susceptible to attacks from above, and two of them are rather slow and telegraphed), but nerves usually get me at that time might have gone on a tangent here, but sheesh, that difficulty spike. i find the steve fight in norfair hard as well, but that can at least be cheesed with a well placed black hole and up tilt spam

@guy2870

2 жыл бұрын

I wish they tried doing it with persona 5

Details missed in Joker’s Classic mode: -Joker isn’t necessarily “turning people good”, but rather taking the Shadows as his own Personas. -The fight with Kirby uses Kalos Pokémon League alongside with the music being “Aria of the Soul”, which is a stand-in for the recurring Velvet Room location. -The blue Kirby ally and the twin Samus’ are fought on the Persona 3 version of Mementos, with Mass Destruction playing in the background. Aigis and Metis both originate from Persona 3, and the Blue Kirby is just for visual consistency. -The fight against the Dark Links is on the Persona 4 version of Mementos, with Reach out to the Truth playing in the background. The Fierce Deity Link could be a reference to Izanagi’s Ultimate form. The yellow Meta Knight is once again for visual consistency with Persona 4. -The Master/Crazy hand fight in mementos makes sense here, as both they and Joker are voiced by Xander Mobus, aka the Smash announcer.

@slippahmastah

3 жыл бұрын

-The Fierce Deity Link coulbe be a reference to Izanagi’s Ultimate form. -The fight with Kirby uses Kalos Pokémon League alongside with the music being “Aria of the Soul”, which is a stand-in for the recurring Velvet Room location.

@oryionterrell6498

3 жыл бұрын

Also that's not dark Meta Knight simply meta Knight with a black mask and red eyes dark Meta Knight is one of meta knights alt costumes (the mask with the scratch on the right eye and silver sword)

@jokingbanana1042

2 жыл бұрын

I thought dark Kirby was black frost and blue Kirby was Jack Frost when I went through the classic mode but maybe I’m wrong

Correction on Joker, he's not turning people good, he's taking the Shadows as his Personas, like he does with regular enemies.

@hiddenscorpiusXI

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, he's turning the Evil Shadows into the Good Personas. The only thing Aaron missed is the reference to Joker "recruiting" Personas to grant him their powers.

@maskedgamerjoker6148

3 жыл бұрын

It could also be a Persona 4 reference when you have to fight future party members Shadow Selves, so that they weaken and they accept dark secret and obtain their persona’s.

@mamu3125

3 жыл бұрын

@@maskedgamerjoker6148 na, thats just the battle against the links. O mean, the negotioations have ever been one of the most caracteristic thing of Megami Tensei

Off topic funny side note: Xander Mobus gets to kick his own ass in Joker’s Classic Mode boss.

@NinjaPickle

3 жыл бұрын

Joker: "I don't want to fight you" Master and Crazy Hand: "We wouldn't want to fight us neither"

@Dan_-

3 жыл бұрын

To paraphrase a comment I once saw someone somewhere say, "You can play as Xander Mobus fighting Xander Mobus and Xander Mobus while Xander Mobus congratulates Xander Mobus for beating Xander Mobus and Xander Mobus."

@eggyt1153

3 жыл бұрын

Context: Joker, The Announcer and the Hands are all voiced by Xander Mobus.

@eggyt1153

3 жыл бұрын

Also, Banjo & Kazooie kick their own asses at the beginning of their route

@YounesLayachi

3 жыл бұрын

Xander Mobius doesn't voice joker, actually, neither in smash nor in his original game. Rather the announcer voice is used for localisation into english

I don't know why but I really like the image of Joker trying to take Erdricks face in the thumbnail.

@BamBamo

3 жыл бұрын

No.

@sentris5293

3 жыл бұрын

@@BamBamo hey look, it's the guy

@christianlopez707

3 жыл бұрын

@@BamBamo why not?

@funkyboi3987

3 жыл бұрын

Joker, the dark lord

@littlepacman10wo38

3 жыл бұрын

"Show me your true form."

The end of Byleth's route may also be a reference to their ability to recruit the members of the other houses in 3 Houses. Something something, Crest of Flame gives +infinity charisma.

I’d say joker’s classic route was more likely referencing how joker has the ability to recruit the shadows he fights and add them to his repertoire of personas rather than just the shadows turning good. The character references were probably correct though Idk.

@OriginalGameteer

3 жыл бұрын

At the very least Incineroar is definitely meant to reference Shido The Aigis/Metis one I'm unsure of but the details do make it seem intentional

“each character uses their respective weapons” 12:58 Edelgard: ahaha.. no.

@speedybxi

3 жыл бұрын

*suddenly aquires crest of blaiddyd

@RetroBeetle

3 жыл бұрын

@@speedybxi _SPOILERS FOR THREE HOUSES_ Technically, anyone with the Crest of Flames can wield any Hero's Relic or Sacred Weapon without taking recoil damage, so Edelgard would be able to use Areadbhar anyway (the only problem being that such a thing is impossible in Three Houses).

@micheledelloglio5820

3 жыл бұрын

@@RetroBeetle Technnically speaking, everyone with a crest can wield any relic without suffers damage. The real power of the matching crests is unleashing their true power by resonating with the crest stone(the unique weapon art they provide with matching crests). SPOILER . . . . . . . . The thing is that Edelgard cannot properly wield the Sword of Creator or use Ruptured Sky because the crest stone is in Byleth's chest, that's why he is the only one that can wield it. If the crest stone was in the sword, everybody with a crest could use it, but only Edelgard(and Nemesis) could use Ruptured Sky

@uniremnant119

2 жыл бұрын

@@RetroBeetle it’s been out for two years (I think) no one cares about spoilers but at least someone’s out there warning people. I respect you

Erdrick’s fight taking place in the volcano is actually a reference to the opening of Dragon Quest 3, where the hero’s father is seen fighting along the rim of an active volcano!

@aerth6946

3 жыл бұрын

oH hey, someone said it first! Yes!

@mrwrigh

2 жыл бұрын

I never played 3 but I've seen that scene so many times in GBC and NES. So awesome

Little fun fact about the final fight of hero's classic mode, Robin turning into a dragon is also a reference to the final fight of his game, fire emblem awakening, where he is the reincarnation of the dragon, Grima

@micheledelloglio5820

3 жыл бұрын

"Dammit, Grima, stop invading other franchises"

@fernandobanda5734

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, a LOT of JRPGs end up with "humanoid final boss turns into a huge monster for his final form".

@josuefiallos9575

3 жыл бұрын

@@fernandobanda5734 you make a fair point

@UptownBassoon

3 жыл бұрын

@@fernandobanda5734 yeah but I'm pretty sure Dragon Quest 1 was the first game to do that

@fernandobanda5734

3 жыл бұрын

@@UptownBassoon I think so too but that has nothing to do with this thread

Thank you for reminding everyone of Rareware’s legacy within in Nintendo aka making Donkey Kong what it is today. A fine reminder that Rare still has a bit of a presence in Nintendo to this day

@nintendoplaystationandxbox1088

3 жыл бұрын

Presence what does that mean like rare can make games on switch ?

@KingConnor523

3 жыл бұрын

@@nintendoplaystationandxbox1088 as in Donkey Kong wouldn’t be what it is today without Rare after redesigning the series as Donkey Kong Country

@nintendoplaystationandxbox1088

3 жыл бұрын

@@KingConnor523 oh ok

I still remember the first time I got to the end of Byleth’s classic mode route and just grinning knowing how much love my favorite franchise got in Smash. Does it have a lot of representation? Yeah. But I am *certainly* not complaining.

@Girjon05

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, i love the fire emblem franchise. But the sad part is, this franchise has such a weapon variety, but we only get the sword characters.

@theghosttm8245

3 жыл бұрын

@@Girjon05 Good thing Byleth is unique.

@micheledelloglio5820

3 жыл бұрын

@@theghosttm8245 "So, Byleth, wich part of the Weapon Triangle you wanna use?" Byleth "Yes" Byleth is damn fun and has arguably the best Classic mode of FE characters

@Underworlder5

3 жыл бұрын

to be fair, while FE has great fighter and music representation, it kind of gets shafted everywhere else. fairly generic stages until garreg mach monastery, only one item to its name, and surprisingly few assist trophies for such a character driven series (the other nintendo series with a massive roster, pokemon, has the pokeball item to show it off). one of my hopes for the series is actually to cut a few fighters in exchange for massively increasing the assist trophy number. some see it as a fighter graveyard, but i see it as an honorable mention, and allows characters to fight in smash despite not being playable girjon, that is why i want hector to be playable. he avoids the typical swordfighter stigma, is a fan favorite among the FE community, and thanks to FE heroes, remains relevant in present day. i feel the only people who would complain about him are those who just hate FE in general

@mythoughtsexactly2145

3 жыл бұрын

@@Underworlder5 it would be nice if Smash has the Summoner's weapon from FEH and use it to call a hero like the Pokeball item

Banjo and Kazooie final boss should be Bayonetta. She's a witch after all

@avocado9466

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and she could make reference to gruntilda when she steals banjos sister beauty

@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295

3 жыл бұрын

Banjonetta

Out of context, "a tiny red Robin" sounds like the most adorable boss fight ever.

“Dragons are common in Dragon quest” NO WAY

@aerth6946

3 жыл бұрын

They are indeed common, but not in major roles.

@BlazerT48

2 жыл бұрын

Who would have guessed!

The ending to Byleth's Classic mode is absolutely hilarious. I burst out laughing when I reached that final battle and saw the conga line of Fire Emblem protagonists as the Hands flew in. Even better was when the squad wiped out the Hands in a matter of seconds before anyone could get hurt! XD

@Underworlder5

3 жыл бұрын

after the hell that is the corrin and byleth fights, i welcome the chance to turn a normally difficult boss into mincemeat

@micheledelloglio5820

3 жыл бұрын

"Master Hand and Crazy Hand, remember when most people say our true strenght are the friend we make along the way?" "Ehr, yes" "Here in FE we take that LITERALLY" *proceed to bullying the bossfight*

Just casually revealing the final boss of persona 5 without warning

@RosalinaSama

3 жыл бұрын

and dragon quest 1 smh smh

@Underworlder5

3 жыл бұрын

@@RosalinaSama to be fair, would anyone go "ah, no. i wanted to play dragon quest 1 without spoilers"?

@RosalinaSama

3 жыл бұрын

@@Underworlder5 why would they do that for persona 5

@Underworlder5

3 жыл бұрын

@@RosalinaSama that one was a bit of a misstep, but to be fair, smash itself casually spoils games all the time, as far back as in melee (sheik is zelda in disguise. melee came out three years after ocarina of time)

@ZoofyZoof

3 жыл бұрын

Who watches this expecting there to not be spoilers? Lol wtf

Re: Joker's classic mode I'm actually kinda surprised you didn't mention the mechanic of taking certain Shadows as your own Persona. As a Persona protagonist, Joker has the ability to have more than one Persona, which are primarily gained by convincing an enemy to join you. This is significant because most others only get one if any. From the way each new round seems to feature at least one former enemy from the previous round, it seems a lot like that's what Joker's doing.

I think the fight against sonic, mega man, and pac man is supposed to represent 3rd party characters since terry himself is a 3rd party, I could be wrong but that’s just what I think.

@papaG6423

2 жыл бұрын

Sort of a "Team Mascot" or "Team 3rd Party" situation. Not to mention, all three have appeared in fighting games outside of Smash (especially Mega Man)

@jimmysmash1236

2 жыл бұрын

True

6:38 @Aaronitmar The Dragon Quest III hero's name was confirmed by Sakurai in the Hero Presentation that he said his name as Arusu while Erdrick is more of the title of the descendant plus, Eleventh Hero is called Eleven.

@Underworlder5

3 жыл бұрын

in the case of eleven, he is mainly referred by his title of luminary, so i can understand primarily calling him that (of course this is because DQ XI is voice acted, and so has to avoid referring to him by name, but it still counts)

@aerth6946

3 жыл бұрын

His name is Arus in many pieces of media, Sakurai just said it was for the sake of diferentiating them. But many still refer to him as Erdrick or Roto.

Bro that thumbnail is holy

@ElWichox

3 жыл бұрын

Is it tho?

@Skypatroller_BenCD

3 жыл бұрын

Finally I found the Earthbound 0/beginning protagonist

@danthony8681

3 жыл бұрын

@@ElWichox it is tho

@mrwoomy8962

3 жыл бұрын

"Show me your true form"

@JustArando3252

3 жыл бұрын

This is why Nintendo ssb doesn't give a s***

I think a cool idea of Byleth’s classic mode would be having him fight characters that represent students in 3 houses, for example, lucina in her golden costume to represent ingrid, Gannodorf representing Dedue, the pink haired inkling to represent hapi, Simon to represent balthus, Ness to represent ashe, etc

@arte7125

2 жыл бұрын

Is it safe to assume that your favorite route is Blue Lions? Also it's funny that you mention 2 Cindered Shadow characters as well, since I believe the Byleth Smash reveal was released months before CS, so that probably wouldn't be possible.

@ianpham4391

2 жыл бұрын

I think Hilda fits the pink haired inkling better than Hapi.

Palutena and Athena seemingly even have the same inspiration; the Greek(?) goddess Pallas-Athena. When turned into Japanese, the name Pallas-Athena becomes Paruthena, then that turned into English becomes Palutena.

@tagon2381

3 жыл бұрын

Pallas-Athena is Greek yes. Though Pallas-Athena is essentially a subset of Athena, which I think mostly the Spartans worshipped if I’m not mistaken.

@sonicstar917

3 жыл бұрын

O_O Genius.

@fernandobanda5734

3 жыл бұрын

I think Palutena in Japanese was meant to be a portmanteau of Parthenon and Athena, but don't quote me on that.

I don’t think Rathalos was added to plant’s route for “being a new boss”. By that logic, Dracula, Marx, and Ganon would also apply. I think Rathalos was chosen for three potential reasons. 1. Since both the Plant and Rathalos are not specific characters, and are more common enemies in their series. 2. Rathalos is not a new fighter, but he is a new assist trophy and the only one who is also a boss. 3. Perhaps a Monster Hunter was planned as a newcomer but cut off during development. So maybe Rathalos was placed as the boss of the route to fill in the Monster Hunter representation. Also, you aren’t technically wrong with Diddy AND Donkey originating from Rare, since the DK of today is technically the grandson of the OG DK, who is now Cranky Kong. While Temple might be the stage you fight Marth and Roy on in Melee, it is also possible that since you only fight Marth here, it might be a reference to chapter 23 of Shadow Dragon, where Marth and his army must climb the a tower in order to obtain Falchion from Gharnef and his many illusionary doppelgängers. The architecture and background of Temple reminds me of that chapter, so this is just my speculation. I’m probably talking out my ass on this one. Also, I’m in full agreement on Hero’s route being the best in the pass. Good job on the video.

@emanueltheodorus1056

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, the new boss means that Rathalos is the NEWEST boss to debut. Out of all 7 bosses in the game, Rathalos debuts the last. Just like how Dracula is chosen as Pac-Man's boss as he debuts the first out of all 7 bosses. Edit, for context, Dracula debuts in 1986, Marx debuts in 1996, OOT Ganon debuts in 1998, Master Hand debuts in 1999, Giga Bowser and Crazy Hand debuted in 2001, and Rathalos debuts in 2004.

@zentendoxn8955

3 жыл бұрын

@@emanueltheodorus1056 SEVEN bosses? I see you forgot Galleom exists. He would be the latest introduction, at 2008. So purely by that logic, Pirahna Plant’s boss fight should be against Galleom. (Well, technically Galeem and Dharkon count as the latest debuts, in 2018, but they seem to be exclusive to World of Light, and haven’t appeared in Classic mode yet) However, even then, Aaronitmar said one of the newest bosses to the Smash series, and Rathalos is two (or three, depending upon how you see Smash 3DS) entries newer to Smash than Galleom.

@emanueltheodorus1056

3 жыл бұрын

@@zentendoxn8955 Right, how the hell did I forgot about Galleom, I'm so fucking stupid. I guess besides newest to debut, it also means the newest to the series. And that cuts it into Dracula, Marx, Ganon, and Rathalos. And Rathalos is the newest to debut out of all of them, so that's the reason it's in the route.

@neypaz8054

3 жыл бұрын

Rathalos was chosen because it's representing a wholly new universe (Monster Hunter). 1.- Master and Crazy Hand, Giga Bowser and Galleom are original Smash bosses and already appeared in prior Smash games. Also, Giga Bowser is based directly on Bowser, whose universe was already represented in the Smash series with him, Mario, Luigi, Peach, Dr, Mario, Rosalina, and Bowser Jr., and is also referenced in this route with Daisy and the very protagonist you're playing as. 2.- Ganon is from The Legend of Zelda which was already represented in prior games with Link, Zelda, Sheik, Young and Toon Link, and Ganondorf. 3.- Marx is from Kirby, which was already represented in prior games with Kirby, King Dedede and Meta Knight. 4.- Dracula is from Castlevania, which is represented for the first time in Smash thanks to Ultimate. But Castlevania is already referenced in this Classic Mode route with Simon and Richter. 5.- Galeem and Dharkon, on top of being ruled out for the same reason as the bosses mentioned at the start, are exclusive to Adventure Mode to begin with. That leaves Rathalos as the only boss from an universe that was neither represented beforehand with any character, nor in this game otherwise. So it was chosen as the final boss for Piranha Plant's route.

You know if Dragon Quest was a mega hit in the U.S. like it was in Japan, do you think we’d have a soccer riot during E3 2019 when Hero and Banjo were revealed?

@christianlopez707

3 жыл бұрын

Debatable. The heroes make the most sense but I think some people would prefer some of the other characters or the monsters if given the option. Unless they are very passionate about the series then they would be hyped either way.

@el_zinga

3 жыл бұрын

@@christianlopez707 I played DQ Rocket Slime as a kid. If Rocket was the character, I would have flipped a lid.

@cashordeals3672

3 жыл бұрын

I mean look how people flipped when sephiroth and cloud was revealed dragon quest would have been ear rape

@christianlopez707

3 жыл бұрын

@@cashordeals3672 Out of all the heroes Eight probably got the biggest reaction out of people. Sense DQ8 sold pretty good outside of Japan, not FF7 levels but still decent.

@mattwo7

3 жыл бұрын

@@christianlopez707 What about Luminary? DQXI seems to be the Persona 4 of Dragon Quest just as DWVII and DQVIII were the Persona 3 of Dragon Quest. Now we just need a Persona 5 of Dragon Quest to give it that final push into the mainstream.

4:51 You forgot to mention it's Xander Mobus vs Xander Mobus.

@zeroplayer120

3 жыл бұрын

Correction: Xander Mobus vs Xander Mobus and Xander Mobus

@skykid863

3 жыл бұрын

@@zeroplayer120 🤣

@Underworlder5

3 жыл бұрын

@@skykid863 and if the announcer was present during the fight, it would have been xander mobus watching xander mobus fight xander mobus and xander mobus

@skykid863

3 жыл бұрын

@@Underworlder5 OH MY GOD! YES!

@Dan_-

3 жыл бұрын

Xander Mobus congratulating Xander Mobus for defeating Xander Mobus and Xander Mobus.

“Ok this isn’t true anymore. I made this video before Kazuya’s reveal.” * Cries in Min Min

@AverageEggmonEnthusiast

3 жыл бұрын

Arms is a fighting game but I wouldn’t call it a “traditional” fighting game? I see your point though.

@ballisticboo7808

3 жыл бұрын

@@AverageEggmonEnthusiast I mean, it's a 3d arena fighter, same as Tekken

@inceldestroyer1069

3 жыл бұрын

@@ballisticboo7808 it uses motion controls and doesnt really have the same type of combos

@OseiTheWarriors

3 жыл бұрын

@@ballisticboo7808 ARMS and Tekken are nothing alike. ARMS is it's own style of game not at all similar to 3D fighting games. Look at Dead or Alive, Soul Calibur, and Virtua Fighter. Those games are far more like Tekken.

@israelcadetftwsierra8254

2 жыл бұрын

And Little mac

Sakuri heard all the complaining of the Fire Emblem characters so he made a classic mode where you can kill all of them

@dustymcwari4468

3 жыл бұрын

And then use them to kill hecking Master and Crazy Hand that mess with a lot of Classic Mode themes

@monsterjamfan100xtreme4

2 жыл бұрын

He knew our pain and decided to use it in classic mode.

@ombraura9118

2 жыл бұрын

Dumbest interpretation I've ever seen... next to the thing where he supposedly did it for the few random people complaining about the legitimate and normal amount of Master and Crazy Hand fights

@guyonyoutube3850

2 жыл бұрын

@@ombraura9118 I like making jokes

8:53 the fight could also be a reference to the trailer Banjo and Kazooie was announced.

A little detail about Terry's Boss Fight is that, if the player is using the P1 Costume, Blue Terry is the chosen costume to replace default Terry. This is both because the blue costume is Terry's default alternate costume in FF/KOF and also because Blue Terry is implied to be a different character in Fatal Fury, who faces off against Terry in mirror matches during his arcade mode in several FF games.

For Joker it’s more of its the monsters you fight and the reason why they are fighting with you is because it’s your Persona now as Shadows can be Personas

G&W's "dark version" in Joker's classic mode is just regular G&W How fitting

@smt64productions40

2 жыл бұрын

Given Brawl where Mr. Game & Watch was use for the Shadow Bugs

My favorite classic modes are the ones with Master & Crazy Hand as a boss simply because they make you so unnecessarily salty.

13:28 "my favorite route is probably Hero's route" "shows Byleth footage"

That intermission at 11:20 was gold xD

Just a couple thing you may have missed: 2:01 This pairing of K Rool and Chrom may be a reference to the fact that they were both relegated to Mii Fighter outfits in Smash 4. 4:29 Similar to the Aigis and Metis reference on the Persona 3 Mementos section, the Links may be a Persona 4 reference. In Persona 4, you specifically fight shadow versions of your party members, similar to Link having to fight a Shadow version of himself across the series. In addition, Fierce Deity Link becoming your ally likely references the protagonist's ultimate Persona in P4. 8:26 Possibly unintentional, but the choice to have Fox and Falco in lieu of other potential pairs (Mario/Luigi, Robin/Chrom, Ken/Ryu, etc) is likely a reference to the fact that Rare created a Star Fox game (Star Fox Adventures, originally known as Dinosaur Planet). The pairing in particular may also be a loose reference to fact that Falco comes to Fox's rescue at the end of Adventures and helps him take down Andross. 10:19 Likely unintentional, but you could also call them "Team X Zone", as the 3DS Project X Zone series features characters from specifically across Sega, Capcom, and Bandai-Namco (though none of these characters, in particular, appear, they are the mascots for their associated company).

WHY ISN'T THERE A MULTIPLAYER BOSS RUSH MODE IN SMASH?!?!

@supremechaosbeing2696

3 жыл бұрын

yeah why the HELL can’t we rematch bosses from world of light? There is already a system for rematching spirit battles (Spirits > Collection > choose a spirit to fight) and you get spirits of the bosses when you defeat them so why can’t we just fight the bosses again

@YounesLayachi

3 жыл бұрын

Because there's no event mode Also the dev team has a weird mentality (why is there no random character selection button in quickplay ?)

@elijahpadilla5083

3 жыл бұрын

There is . . . sorta. Player 1 just has to be Sephiroth.

@YounesLayachi

3 жыл бұрын

@@elijahpadilla5083 Sephiroth is not a boss fight in smash

@elijahpadilla5083

3 жыл бұрын

@@YounesLayachi Sephiroth's Classic Mode route is against all boss fights. Hands, Rathalos, Ganon, Dracula, Marx.

12:45 He said Edelgard first. I have mad respect for him now.

2:30 Don't forget that the Persona series is, in fact, based off of the Shin Megami Tensei series.

Piranha Plant's Classic Mode is my favorite of the bunch. I dig fighting every one of the base newcomers and Rathalos is my #1 boss in Ultimate. Banjo-Kazooie and Terry come close. Hero is good for the references, although Mega Charizard's appearance as part of the final boss throws me off on occasion. Likewise, I dislike the penultimate round of Byleth's route because of how often the AI spams the special moves.

I bet that if Kazuya was already in the roster, they would replace the Terry opponent with him in Terry's final boss stage.

@drodrig1

3 жыл бұрын

It would probably replace ken to have the protagonists of 3 fighting games

@micheledelloglio5820

3 жыл бұрын

The Terry thing is a recurring joke in Fatal Fury. There you have a special fight with another Terry and has a special dialogue for it

I’m so excited for Kazuya Mishima and what will his Classic Mode look like

@ThatFurryTeen

3 жыл бұрын

His classic mode will look like his classic mode

@joshualedesmasegovia

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThatFurryTeen My Idea for Kazuya Mishima’s Classic Mode in Super Smash Bros Ultimate Ganondorf Representing Ancient Ogre Ryu and Ken Masters together as a Reference for Street Fighter x Tekken Terry Bogard Representing Geese Howard Cloud Strife Representing Noctis Lucis Caelum

@Joker_Kirby

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshualedesmasegovia And the Boss?

@joshualedesmasegovia

3 жыл бұрын

@@Joker_Kirby Maybe Ganondorf for Ancient Ogre

@slygambit9775

3 жыл бұрын

Gotta have a battle where he fights Incinaroar who would rep king

Definitely looking forward to the next fighter pass in many months to come. Your videos are amazing and informative and they teach me a lot about different games.

"Team Retro" Sonic Pac-Man Mega Man are a nod to the fact that these 3 characters had a game on the Neo Geo Pocket Color console

Whoever draws these thumbnails is a great artist

Mans got sponsored by Disney mad respect

I can't wait for Kazuya and what his Classic Mode route will be like! Edit: Okay, I did NOT expect this to get so many likes.

@MosesX-Labs

3 жыл бұрын

I hope for the Boss Fight they either have Ganon as Ogre or have a battle with a Smash Fighter to represent a Boss Fight in Tekken like maybe Kazuya Vs. Kazuya like Tekken 2.

@AdventofMechanus

3 жыл бұрын

I bet the whole theme will be about the Mishima bloodline, and one of the fights will be Joker referencing Jin.

@joshualedesmasegovia

3 жыл бұрын

@@MosesX-Labs I would love to see a Boss Fight with Ganondorf as Ancient Ogre in Super Smash Bros Ultimate

@MosesX-Labs

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdventofMechanus No I don’t thinks so because they don’t have other DLC Fighters in Spirits and Classic mode because it won’t work for people who bought them individually.

@AdventofMechanus

3 жыл бұрын

@@MosesX-Labs …huh. Dark pit then?

The presence of all the other fire emblem fighters in Byleth’s classic mode can be a reference to the recruit mechanic where enemies you fight become your ally.

@micheledelloglio5820

3 жыл бұрын

Exatly, confirming Byleth as the true representative of FE in Smash. He has the two "main" mechanics, weapon triangle and recruitment

For Terry's final fight it can also be a reference for team Fatal Fury in KOF which consists of Joe Higashi, Andy Bogard, and Terry Bogard. They are represented by Ryu, Ken, and Terry respectively

Note on Byleth’s route: if you choose the Edelgard, Claude, or Dimitri color, the CPU will NOT change. Only fight to do this.

@fernandobanda5734

3 жыл бұрын

This also happens with Hero when you fight regular DQ11 Hero and tony red Robin.

10:20 Team Retro? I always called them was Team Icons because there Video Game Icon from different companies.

A detail that I think you missed with Joker's classic mode is the fact that the alternate visual themes for Mementos also line up with the battles. The Samus/Dark Samus fight uses the Persona 3 version of the stage, which is the game that both Aegis and Metis come from. And the Dark Link fight uses the Persona 4 theme, which is probably a reference to the fact that in that game, you fight the shadows of the protagonists (much like how the Dark Link battles operate in the Zelda series).

6:48 is probably a reference to Alefgard in DQ3 which became the dark realm when Zoma took over the land. There is also a volcano near Jipang, a Japanese-inspired city, that has a similar theme to castle siege where you fight the multi-headed dragon, Orochi. Edit: also, I love the part of Banjo's classic mode where they fight DK and Diddy. It just feels nice.

Aaronitmar should make a new concepts series on Custom Classic Modes

Like with Palutena’s route, Master Hand and Crazy Hand are basically the gods of Smash so Joker fighting them makes sense.

@martymcfly1312

3 жыл бұрын

They’re also both voiced by Xander Mobus

@MosesX-Labs

3 жыл бұрын

@@martymcfly1312 yeah that too

0:50 You're a Huge Toy Story Fan? Neat! **Croak**

8:53 no, rare CREATED Donkey Kong... The Third. The previous is young Cranky Kong

for Joers Route: Samus and Dark Samus reference, Aigis and medis are characters from Persona 3. Persona 3 had a mostly blue Color sheme, which is also present in Kirby costume and in the stage itself. Also the theme in the fight "mass Destruction" is from P3 too so it would make a lot of sense lol For the Byleth Fight: the black and white Corrin could also be a reference to Corrins Secondary Class: Hoshidan Noble and Nohr Noble. In any official Artworkt for those two classes, the Male Corrin is the one wearing the Hoshidan Noble Outfit, while female orrin is the one with the Norian Armor class

No one gonna talk about how PERFECTLY 10:50 syncs with the music in the background? Godlike editing

Honestly, Terry and Hero's Classic Mode routes are my favorites in the game. They're so fun.

I read many comments saying that the shadows joining you to the battle in Joker's classic mode is in reference of how Joker recruits shadows to personas in his game, which is incorrect: changing from dark colors to light colors contradicts this statement because shadows don't change their appearance when they join you as personas, and the fact that the giant black Kirby who represents Black Frost turns into a small blue Kirby, representing Jack Frost, confirms that Joker is stealing the evilness of the shadows rather than recruiting then.

I know you've already been cleared up on the shadows thing for Joker's route, but I've also noticed that the fight with Incineroar probably also references the Beast of Human Sacrifice, the golden lion Shido rides in the first part of the fight. Great video!

12:21 man you didn’t need to disrespect Ike like that

@megame5573

3 жыл бұрын

I know he was getting footage for this anyway, but if I happened to record me doing that I'd find any excuse possible to include it in a video

@Underworlder5

3 жыл бұрын

@@megame5573 the funny thing is that this is actually the preferred way to fight him. byleth has a very easy time gimping ikes recovery (appropriately enough with attacks like F air, F smash or side B, while lances beat swords in FE games)

A neat little thing in Byleth's Classic route is that Roy's fight takes place on Arena Ferox, which is from Fire Emblem Awakening, which is were Roy gets part of his Sm4sh redesign from: his Einherjard (DLC card fighter thing) design from Awakening.

I actually think Master and Crazy Hand in Jokers route are a better representation of the final boss of Royal than Yaldabaoth since that boss actually used their fists yo attack primarily. We know from Joker having the Grappling Hook before Royal was confirmed to have it, Sakurai was given info on Royal before the public like Gamefreak does with Pokemon in Smash.

I don't know about the others, but Pyra & Mythra would definitely fit in Banjo & Kazooie's route. What would be more interesting is seeing them in _Joker's_ route because of their... _unusual_ relationship with each other.

“Before we begin, I’d like to thank the sponsors for this video…” Oh, boy, here we go… Disney Heroes: Battle Mode MY FAVORITE APP GAME OF ALL TIME IS GETTING HIGHLIGHTED BY A CONTENT CREATOR THAT I WATCH SOMEONE SAY PSYCHE RIGHT THE FRICK NOW HOLY CRAP

Terry's was the best route from Fighter Pass1. Also, Pacman-Megaman-Sonic team could be a reference to the Project X Zone games on 3ds. Those games were a collab between bamco, capcom, and sega. (With Nintendo cheapin in too)

Also, Sonic, Pac-Man and Mega Man all had games on Neo Geo Pocket Color, possibly a reason as to why they are in a team in Terry's route

I like how Aaronitmar finish the video off with the main music of “Fire Emblem Three houses”

I look forward to the next series: "EVERY Reference in Smash History's Reveal Trailers"... Unless that's already been covered by you, my GOD you've done a lot of these videos...

Also, while very much probably unintentional, having Samus as a part of the Joker classic mode with Mass Destruction playing is hilarious. Its a bit of an inside joke since Mass Destruction starts out with "BABY BABY BABY BABY" and in Metroid Other M, Samus can't shut up about THE BABY!

Side note regarding the "Dark" Incineroar fight: the background music is Rivers in the Desert, making the reference to Shadow Shido even stronger.

I'm sure the dev team had their reasons for using bosses, but you're right how odd it seems when many of these routes could have ended in an amped-up "normal" fight, like Hero's, that would have captured some "ultimate" fight in their game of origin. A repeat-Final-Smash Cloud for Sephiroth, a tougher-than-usual Clown-Car character for Daisy...

10:51 It might just be a coincidence and I just see reference where there is absolutely not, but the 3 characters in the background may reference Ryu and Ken too. Ryo, as you said, is a direct hommage to Ryu, the girl on the left (sorry for the names I havn’t played KOF enough) wears closes kind of similar to Ryu’s one, and the girls on the right is a blond « mid-hair » character wearing red, just like Ken. Again, I can totally gone to far, but Sakurai and the Smash team seem to really really love Fatal Fury/KOF series and go and put a lot of attention and details in all the stuff that came alongside Terry inclusion

Honestly seeing smash KZreadrs get sponsored by Disney makes me smile for some reason.

I think the reason why Donkey Kong and Diddey Kong fight, was less because they were both made by rare, and more because banjo was originally just one of the characters you could be in Diddey Kong Racing, and then eventually got his own game in Banjo-Kazooie.

I think the battle with Erdrick is refrencing the Ortega battle at the beginning of DQ3. Sense that battle has Erdricks father fight a winged demon on top of a volcano.

@Ohjeezits420

3 жыл бұрын

This, or it could be a reference to Erdrick travelling to Alefgard in DQ3. The Castle Siege stage sort of travels underground which could allude to the way you get to Alefgard in the game, but it's pretty vague

Interesting tidbit, Robin > Charizard as the final boss for Hero's route is also because the boss enemy is faced much earlier than usual, like with Mega Man's route. Unlike how it usually is, Diddy Kong is the leading frontman of the Kong duo in Banjo & Kazooie's route. This is because Diddy was created by Rare, and because Banjo's debut appearance was in a spin-off with Diddy Kong in the starring role. Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac-Man from Terry's route can also be seen as Team Guest Star as all three characters are the first time a character from the companies they come from (SEGA, Capcom, Namco) are playable in Smash.

I feel like the Banjo fight against DK and Diddy could've been a reference to Banjo's reveal trailer

When people are complaining about too many fire emblem characters but Byleth’s boss fight is a team battle with UNIQUE fire emblem characters as ally’s against both hands. I see this as an absolute win!!

As a fan of the KOF series, I really love Terry's Classic route But damn Mario, Not even gonna add your own brother on your KOF themed team? Whatever happened to "Bros before Hoes?"

11:20 this bit could've been replaced with a quick cut to Kazuya's trailer followed by a silent "...oh"

I think "Erdrick's" battle is supposed to be a reference to a couple things in DQ3 (SPOILERS) -Ortega, his dad, fell into a volcano where he went "missing" -Near the end of the game, you reach the "underworld" which is below a volcano and it's actually the DQ1 world

Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac-Man were considered the 'guest' fighters of Sm4sh.

Nobody: No one even Joker: Byleth in her/his final boss: All troupes… MOVE ON!!!

Small correction, but Athena doesn't have a cameo in the KoF games, she's in every single KoF game as a playable character. She's actually the only female character to be present in every KoF game. Also, Ryo also inspired the creation of Dan Hibiki, a joke character in SF who's entire character from moveset to backstory are parodies of Ryo's moves and backstory. Also completely unrelated but look up the gif of Ken tossing Terry's hat at him him from Capcom vs SNK 2. It's really cool and I wish it was referenced in some way in smash.

yes let’s go i’m a huge persona fan (evidently) so i’ve been waiting for this

@makotoyuki345

3 жыл бұрын

Let’s test that Who’s the most tragic protagonist?

@ABC-ik9vj

3 жыл бұрын

@@makotoyuki345 morgana

@aerth6946

3 жыл бұрын

@@makotoyuki345 You, now back to the seal.

honestly great to see people recognize persona 3 and not just p5

Bonus points for using the orchestral music for Dragon Quest. Much better than the MIDIs.

I think joker's classic mode is super clever. And it is definitely not what you said. It's a reference to how you fight and take demons/shadows as your allies. And (may be wrong) pretty sure the banjo vs donkey and diddy stage is still a reference to click clock woods. They're all in order of how you'd discover them too.

I think the reference for Sonic, Megaman, and Pac-man is that they are the mascots of big Third-Party Japanese Developers, this is further hinted at with the song: "ESAKA!!" which is the theme for Team Japan in KoF.

What this video doesn’t tell you about Terry’s Classic Mode route: • Judging by the song choice, Round 1 is a reference to the Women Fighters team, a KoF series staple. Mario stands in for King, who has a tomboyish fashion sense. Peach stands in for Yuri Sakazaki, who debuted in Art of Fighting as a damsel in distress. Rosalina & Luma stands in for Mai Shiranui, who is banned from Smash due to censorship. • The opponents in Round 3 reference the fact that Big Bear is a heavyweight wrestler. • The opponents in Round 5 appeared on the Neo Geo Pocket platform or its color successor.

@Dan_-

3 жыл бұрын

Daisy would be a better stand-in for Yuri. One-time damsel in distress, suddenly turned into major ass-kicker. And Lucina would be a better King for stupidly obvious reasons.

Hero’s Classic mode is literally him fighting in a mirror match 4 times.

I am not a big fan of MegaMan but I think his classic mode route is the best for references

I personally like to think that the inclusion of Fox and Falco in Banjo-Kazooie's route is also a subtle reference to the last game Rare made with Nintendo, Star Fox Adventures.

I will never understand how Our Beginning got in over Yaldaboath’s actual theme. Pigstep for Steve was also a missed opportunity - that song slaps

Mans out here gettin sponsored by literally Disney

I was the most excited for when hero got to smashed because of how big of a dragon quest fan I am not to mention just getting all the references just makes me love how much time and effort they actually put into it