These guys: we copyrighted all possible melodies and put them in public domain Meanwhile, music corporations: yeah so we copyrighted the note E.

@cupwise1700

4 жыл бұрын

except nobody actually can copyright individual notes.

@cupwise1700

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-zd9fc4vs4q why? all the music that was already copyrighted and owned by the major industry people is still owned by them. they can still come after you for copyright violation. meanwhile, some kid who makes an album now apparently can't copyright it. good fucking job.

@bencastor9207

4 жыл бұрын

@@cupwise1700 they own a copyright to the entire composition, not specific note sequences, I don't think you understand musical copyrights

@koreboredom4302

4 жыл бұрын

Even if someone actually managed to pull it off, couldn't somebody just tune it a few cents sharp/flat so it isn't actually an "E" although it still functions as one?

@nidavis

4 жыл бұрын

that's why I use E650, and if you had access to my comment and use E650, pay up

This guy: "I will copyright every melody" Music industry: * starts to write microtonal polyrhythmic music in odd time signatures *

@kezianaomi1839

4 жыл бұрын

Did you mean King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard?

@ShirubaGin

4 жыл бұрын

What about melodies made with percussion EDIT: I know they can have pitches. I was only making a joke.

@teamakesgames

4 жыл бұрын

That'd be great

@BoopyTheFox

4 жыл бұрын

@@kezianaomi1839 Hecc yeah. Time to pour HOT WAX all over the music industry

@kesamek8537

4 жыл бұрын

You mean all the lack-of-melody garbage that has been passed off a pop/rock/metal since the 1990s?

"There's only twelve notes. We're ALL a bunch of thieves." Probably the most intelligently spoken words to ever come out of Ozzy's mouth.

@Pow3rus

Жыл бұрын

When did he say that?

@jamess.7811

Жыл бұрын

who's Ozzy

@Artem4egg_

11 ай бұрын

​​​@@jamess.7811Ozzy Osbourne probably, music writer, band singer

@Borrelaas

11 ай бұрын

I dont get that.. that is like saying there are only 26 letters in the alphabet, so after the first book every book after was just plagiarism

@h0pesfall

11 ай бұрын

@@Borrelaas yeah good point but music is art

"No one is a megalomaniac that wants to takeover copyright" Disney: *sweats nervously*

@mbartelsm

2 жыл бұрын

"Noah is not a megalomaniac", not "No one is a megalomaniac"

@TheDeadOfNight37

2 жыл бұрын

Warner Chappell *

@mathisblair2798

2 жыл бұрын

Remembers how George Lucas once referred to Disney as "White Slavers" O.O

@TheDantheman12121

Жыл бұрын

@@mbartelsm Yeah you are right and taht means disney would not take everything over if tehy had the chance.

@Acoustic_Theory

Жыл бұрын

Every corporation wants to take over copyright, they are only afraid of the needed effort and the possibility that they may not have thought of everything.

"Soon, everything will be copyrighted, and when everything's copyrighted *laughs maniacally and walks away* "Nothing will be"

@Rinesmyth

4 жыл бұрын

- Syndrome

@theSato

4 жыл бұрын

Someone already made this comment

@machduel

4 жыл бұрын

Classic

@jesterruth1238

4 жыл бұрын

Best

@lukapocius2323

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I'm waiting for this moment so much!

Simultaneously, they infringed on every melody ever made.

@jrbleau

4 жыл бұрын

@@GladeSwope Well, then, the 68 billion aren't really protected since we haven't heard them either.

@idontusenumbers

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think that's how copyright works. If it is how copyright works, this exercise doesn't matter because no one is listening to what's on that hard drive.

@idontusenumbers

4 жыл бұрын

Toweraki, that's not how copyright works. You don't have to be profiting off it for it to be illegal.

@KAIZORIANEMPIRE

4 жыл бұрын

well it's not possible, lol to brute force all melodies because there are near infinite melodies if you include other tunings. especially if you have a different ruthm with the melody. it's not the "same" thing

@jesterthelegend926

4 жыл бұрын

@@jrbleau could use a program to match the melody to the data base.

"If everything is copyrighted, nothing is copyrighted" Genius, just Genius!

Im glad these guys are not being evil. I fully support this project. Copyright is out of control.

Before you think about looking at that drive, let me just say this: somewhere in that hard drive there is a rick roll.

@mlggamingpro2578

4 жыл бұрын

true

@signaturerush

4 жыл бұрын

I like those odds

@fennecteal

4 жыл бұрын

@Psychedelic Mind ah, but we can still get rick rolled in major :)

@Havron

4 жыл бұрын

@Psychedelic Mind A minor is just C major but starting on A, so plenty of minor scale melodies will be in there.

@jamesfediganmtb6239

4 жыл бұрын

1000th like let’s go

Imagine how many bangers are on that hard drive

@sbp4215

4 жыл бұрын

my mouth is watering at the thought...

@HorrorWorldx

4 жыл бұрын

a lot

@lostrobotmusic

4 жыл бұрын

Relevant: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_Babel

@shadowhenge7118

4 жыл бұрын

All of them, in theory

@TimeManInJail

4 жыл бұрын

Oh no sir, it has to go through the banger protocol

"As a musician, I don't feel particularly protected under copyright law. I feel rather threatened, in fact." Man, I feel that too.

Imagine how many songs were amazing and then changed because someone was like "oh you know what that sounds like?..."

@RobertNolan

2 жыл бұрын

@ writing a song and then hearing it back in the studio, scraping it because it sounded a little too much like something else, and then not giving it the chance.

@justtiredthings

Жыл бұрын

it’s really sad how much we’ve held ourselves back as a society and as a creative force with copyright law, honestly

@RobertNolan

Жыл бұрын

@@justtiredthings copyright law needs to be addressed for the modern era or we will severely hinder our musical growth and renewal.

Damien: "I used the copyright to destroy the copyright."

@AlasdairGR

4 жыл бұрын

picalc314 Capitalists: Wait, that’s illegal.

@36inc

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlasdairGR no this is dair in capitalism. Capitalism has no other goal but to gain wealth effectively. If you break the game to break the game to break the game. This is in service of capitalism. Not the opposite. Because law is a counter meassure to such things.

@ObjectsInMotion

4 жыл бұрын

Copyright is anti capitalist. We become closer to free market without it. Anti-capitalists should love copyright.

@Trollitytrolltroll

4 жыл бұрын

Love me some copyleft

@lucasb.v.9348

4 жыл бұрын

@Objects in Motion The classical misconception of "capitalism == free market" ... Well, although free market ideology favor wealthy capitalists to legitimate their wealth, that's not a viable economical system and corporations/capitalists know that. Serious anti capitalists know it very well, you're the ones that are missing the argument.

Basically: If NO ONE gets to own a melody, EVERYONE gets to own a melody.

@louyCIA

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like communist propaganda but ok

@BradsGonnaPlay

4 жыл бұрын

Luis Montoya communist propaganda means that only 248 people who do it first WONT be the only people over the span of multiple lifetimes to claim ownership of what’s ultimately an arbitrary cluster of sounds that evoke emotional responses? i’m down.

@euterpeseeker968

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds similar to Syndrome's plan :D

@maximepelletier7712

4 жыл бұрын

@@BradsGonnaPlay If not communist propaganda, we could say (a part of a cohesive) Socialist political stance

@canadianwifi2903

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/h2RqzM6goLDagdY.html

20 years ago I was having coffee. With Geeks, music lovers and weirdo's. We'd sit in a cafe in Stockholm, eat, talk shit and go and buy records afterwards. Every Saturday for five years. We discussed the fact that music is just math, and that music theoretically could run "out" if computational power was applied to it. Simultaneously we agreed that there should not be copyrights or patents on programming. Assuming programming is a language you speak in order to get a machine to do something, no element of speech should be someone's intellectual property. So it's nice to see that someone actually pragmatically did something about that. Our coffee talks were never meant to lead anywhere: All of us are lazy geeks. Two of us could sing, that's it. So I applaud the people that do rather than talk. That said, I think there might be more people who think of music as "just a number" than you think. It's just that we had our coffee, didn't blog, vlog or write about it, and carried on with our lives to become middle aged dads with a mortgage and no more time to have brunch in Stockholm every Saturday. But it was a good time in my life, I'll say that. Either way, you have a lot of people that support you in your quest. Copyright / IP law once came into existence to encourage "learned men to compose and write useful books". Current copyright/patent/IP/trademark law certainly goes beyond "redelijkheid en billijkheid" as we call it in Dutch law. It's neither reasonable nor fair anymore. Anyway, cool video. Happy to see the discussion is still alive. You have my vote of support.

if you’re ever getting sued for copying a melody just tell the judges you were listening to the archive of every melody ever and took it from there

@practicalfrost5192

11 ай бұрын

Genius. Case closed.

This is a perfect example of how insanely stupid and smart we are at the same time.

@francodominguez9028

4 жыл бұрын

Lmaooo

@swagmund_freud6669

4 жыл бұрын

Copyright only needs to exist because artists need to make money in capitalism. Enter a post capitalist society, and who really cares?

@Ban_Usury_Worldwide

4 жыл бұрын

@@swagmund_freud6669 Oh god... what's your idea of a 'post capitalist society'?

@draztiqmeshaz6226

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ban_Usury_Worldwide I'd reckon it looks a bit like Mars.

@muchozolf

4 жыл бұрын

IskenThink Thats the world we live in thought. Maybe capitalism is gonna fall, as machines eventually will start taking our jobs, or maybe it won't and then we're screwed

It’s basically “if everything is copyrighted, nothing will be”

@denishdahariya

4 жыл бұрын

aint that from incredibles 1?!?!?

@seven7sseven7s83

4 жыл бұрын

That's probably where it will and should go. So stupid that parasites buy the rights to someone else's songs just to go to court for something they think is similar. Maybe fight fire with fire.

@an_annoying_cat

4 жыл бұрын

Denish Dahariya yep

@nicholascowan1731

4 жыл бұрын

“When everyone is a sex worker, no one will be”

@josephruby2981

4 жыл бұрын

They could give everyone a Creative Commons license.

Copyright isn't there to protect musicians, it's to protect "assets" controlled by labels. This is genius

"You're not going to have a melody that's 3 octaves wide." *stares in Pat Benatar*

“We copyrighted every melody...” you WHAT “...and put it in the public domain.” oh. okay.

@darrenj1387

4 жыл бұрын

Dusty ok.

@BlackBloodCombatClub

4 жыл бұрын

But then everyone can use it. It's like they did this to make copying music technically not illegal as long as the melody marches what's in the public domain.

@DustyMusician

4 жыл бұрын

Bonzi Buddy they did it to make an explicit jab at big record labels who go after smaller musicians for things like covers and references

@arcanusluvalus1388

4 жыл бұрын

Bonzi Buddy they did it so that everyone has free will to choose what melodies you want to incorporate in your music without having someone come after you because the melody has been copyrighted for the purpose of protecting the music first and then the artist .

@theGuizzard

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely cool they did this for the little guy. But, thinking about this a little more I have to ask, are these melodies really accessible in the public domain? Who has time to listen to even a small fraction of 68.7 billion melodies? Based on this, if your new copyrighted hit tune is in that database, in a court of law it may be arguable that you did not have access to it prior to composing your (real) tune. The only feasible way to check would be to normalize your melody into quarter notes and then search that db, post mortem (i.e. after you be killin' it, or rather, wrote it the way real musicians do these types of things). Not sure how the litigation would play out on this one.

This is so silly that musicians actually have to worry about stuff like this.

@lo-firobotboy7112

4 жыл бұрын

I don't.

@yves_jotres

4 жыл бұрын

This is only the beginning

@saxyrep1

4 жыл бұрын

@@lo-firobotboy7112 In the world we live in and given the spreading of very frivolous lawsuits in the US anyways, this can and have affected creativity, I welcome this classy solution.

@lo-firobotboy7112

4 жыл бұрын

@@saxyrep1 Luckily, I live outside the US where people are a bit less litigious and US copyright laws don't apply. People here a less fearful of, well, everything.

@heyhoe168

4 жыл бұрын

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? (c)

This is something I’ve been saying for awhile. Every melody I’ve made myself actually scares me because if I ever released it I could get sued because literally all the melodies have been used and I would be ruined if I ever got sued even the smallest amount.

@EdwardCurrent

Жыл бұрын

Me too, that's why I decided not to be a rich and famous rock star

As a law student focused on IP and starting a course on Copyright this semester, your videos on the topic are fascinating, and I'm totally going to bring you to the attention of my copyright professor. If you'd be interested in talking about music copyright in front of a bunch of law students, my professor had several guest speakers for our patent course who were inventors and practitioners. I bet he'd be interested in having you in to speak on the topic.

@affugter

Жыл бұрын

So 2 years later. What did your professor have to say about it?

Adam's quote of the day : "As a musician I don't feel particularly protected under copyrightlaw, I feel rather threatened in fact". Things shouldn't work this way.

@JoeLabisch

4 жыл бұрын

^

@starsign2855

4 жыл бұрын

^

@SomeOne-pd6vm

4 жыл бұрын

^

@luca9408

4 жыл бұрын

^👌

@JaMeshuggah

4 жыл бұрын

WRONG ONLY HALSEY AND ARIANNA GRANDE ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO PEFORM OR "CREATE" *MUSIC* ®™

And suddenly there was a boom in semi-tonic Arabic music.

@radbug

4 жыл бұрын

they used 8 notes.. so they already skipped the Sharps/Flats LOL

@Troller235

4 жыл бұрын

@eternity cosplay look up arabic nokia on youtube

@badethics7542

4 жыл бұрын

I can hear the god damn Nokia.

@jonclymer2572

4 жыл бұрын

@@nobody7158 Called semi tones. Chinese music is similar where they use semi-tones between Western half steps.

@chaotickreg7024

2 жыл бұрын

King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard are safe from being sued

It gave me chills, I'm kinda getting paranoid about that theme recurrently; I'm just an amateur artist and I like to create my own stuff. My own music, my own story tale, my own paintings, maybe someday my own food... It really (really really really...) hit me with a lot of ansiety to think about it. Not for that isolated video, but about how I feel that we are going further to the meaningless and nothingness in stuff that used to be a part of ourselves... Is that a normal feeling? or is it just because the quarentene? I can't stand to imagine a world where someone can come and say "hey, I know you like it and you probably made it from the deep of your heart, but someone made it first. I'm sorry kid, now go back home."

@hahaidothat1512

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly same but you know what? Its fucking stupid, copyright Is stupid! So so so fucking stupid Yeah right *this song* and this *another song* have the same melody but oh! Look! *This song* Is about heartbreak, Is a rock-ish type of song inspired by the 60's and this other song Is about confidence and self love, the beat Is sick! Inspired by trap and disco music so cool! What I mean Is that no song Is exactly the same as another, they have different meanings, their authors are trying to share their different beliefs with you, you feel different while listening to each one of them they are unique and beautiful on their own way so FUCK COPYRIGHT art belongs to everyone and at some point that stupid law will stop existing, im so fucking sure

@hahaidothat1512

3 жыл бұрын

@Rockstump Bike It could only happen on pop music, to discard feelings so you can make something popular, most real artists wouldn't do that I think

@js1.987

3 жыл бұрын

Music should have a specific degree of copyright. It should be very lenient.

@jjjx32

3 жыл бұрын

music is more than melody. want to make something noone has ever made before? use unexpected instruments. melodica has been making the rise recently as a cute childish instrument but it's always capable of some stunning depth of function. explore that. explore unique ways to use instruments. use different chords. use different time signatures. modulate frequently. just because someone has the same melody as you doesn't mean they have the same song in the same way 1000 artists could draw the same thing but no drawing will be the same. just be creative.

@js1.987

3 жыл бұрын

@Tree yes. Think of John Cage. No one can copyright him because he has the most artistic and unimaginably weird music ever

While falling down a flight of stairs, I exhibited every possible dance move. If recorded, I could claim to own all choreography

"nobody can own a number" *laughs in large prime numbers*

@baltofarlander2618

4 жыл бұрын

You mean that large primes have their respective discoverers, right?

@themera8921

4 жыл бұрын

@@baltofarlander2618 no, he mean thing like the prime number that use for encryption and such

@tomwhipp3245

4 жыл бұрын

this was my first thought. As well as primes, the numbers for the data on blueray discs is copyrighted too.

@foresthillwolf7998

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomwhipp3245 And illegal to own!

@raniericampellodellaspina2340

4 жыл бұрын

@@baltofarlander2618 Well, prime numbers are property of the government. If you discover a new prime number, you are legally required to give it to the CIA and they'll give you money

So the guy has a bachelor's in music education, does coding but actually is a Lawyer? If there was 1 guy who could pull this off it was him.

@TypicalRussianGuy

4 жыл бұрын

It's quite possible. You can start doing music and coding while you're a child and then get a law degree as well later.

@moonasha

4 жыл бұрын

my dad had a masters in music, learned to code after, then ended up at an insurance company. I think music and coding have a lot of commonalities. There's an amount of creativity, but also order and rules

@JackPonissi

4 жыл бұрын

@@moonasha Yes, music and coding have a lot in common, same goes for law. I started as a coder and ended up as musician, I don't have a law degree but the topic always fascinated me and I seem to understand it more than most people.

@Sesquipedaliofobia

4 жыл бұрын

That doesn't mean he is a good coder, a good lawyer or a good musician

@otpreet

4 жыл бұрын

Man in ushanka yea I’m kinda coding and I make music but I want to be a boxer lmao

Fun idea. Even if you have the same melody in 100 songs, all these songs could feel totally different depending on the instruments, phrasing, backing rhythm, tempo, song genre, etc.

@KairuHakubi

Жыл бұрын

feel being the key word.

@nickl5658

Жыл бұрын

However legally they will contain the same melody and that maybe enough to win a law suit.

I sincerely hope this leads somewhere. The current situation is effectively, if music is a language (and let's face it, it basically is), then the (American) music industry is trying to copyright everything from the word "the" to basic grammatical rules.

"As a musician, I don't feel particularly protected by copyright law. I feel rather threatened in fact." #AdamNeely

@ariiincolur

3 жыл бұрын

Copyright law serves no other purpose than to screw everybody over but the top dollar companies, and I personally don’t think we should tolerate it.

@goji_crafter

3 жыл бұрын

@@ariiincolur Copyright law in and of itself is absolutely crucial for economic stability. Imagine that you made a new product and a company to sell it, then somebody else started to copy exactly what you made and sell it themselves. That's not fair to you in any way, thus copyright

@datdamndog389

3 жыл бұрын

@@goji_crafter wouldnt that be, like, bad, since it allows monopolies

@goji_crafter

3 жыл бұрын

@@datdamndog389 that's a problem seperate from copyright in most contexts

@Desopolis

3 жыл бұрын

@@goji_crafter I agree that copyright law in and of itself is crucial for many aspects of society yet the current situation (particularly in the US) is of great concern.. The pillars of our music copyright is based on player pianos (first audible form beyond musical notation) and the majority of current law was written in 1976. The DMCA was written at a time when hard drives were only a few GB and much of the world wasn’t online. Now automations file claims against birds and tv static, yet mark it as “manually reviewed” ignoring the Supreme Court decision that fair use MUST be considered. The reality is there is an industry around maintaining its complexity and they know the vast majority cannot afford the minimum $100k required to fight in court. My greatest concern is the infringement of fair use but also the interpolation and nuance further being claimed as intellectual property…

This could become a new way to create: "Have you heard my rendition of song kernel 48,992,731?"

@lo-firobotboy7112

4 жыл бұрын

I think this already happens with most of the top bangers out there. There's a basic pop formula over which you place a beautiful and/or edgy frontperson.

@photios4779

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately this could also become a new way to extort artists in the hands of less scrupulous people. "Nice melody you've got there. Did you know it's identical to song kernel 48,992,731 in my collection? You owe me 50% of the royalties on your song."

@cihanadriantowery3200

4 жыл бұрын

kernel jazz!

@IrizarryBrandon

4 жыл бұрын

@@photios477948,992,731. Lol. What did you do with it, though? Nothing, you kept it around like Smaug hoarding the Dwarven treasure. So, I don't think it makes sense to copyright something you don't make constructive use of.

@Markle2k

4 жыл бұрын

@@IrizarryBrandon Wu Tang Clan made an album of which there is only one copy.

These guys are gonna save the music industry. No one can fix the direction mainstream music is heading in, or record labels' hyperfocus on social media over the music itself. But for this part of the problem? Hell yeah

this man needs to upload all those as the ultimate loop kit lol

At 1:04 "We were having drinks one night ..." Lawyers + alcohol = formula for disaster.

@guitarstech2215

4 жыл бұрын

better call saul

@spncr405

4 жыл бұрын

Looks as if Viktor with a K and Giselle have some competition

@alexandermoore593

4 жыл бұрын

Drunk lawyer: Dshyou know what we neheed to make? a way to copyrigt all memes to ever exssits

@guitarstech2215

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexandermoore593 generate them bro, would be easy enough - they've done it for music.

@Havron

4 жыл бұрын

or greatness 🍻

So, music Library of Babel?

@MisterAppleEsq

4 жыл бұрын

That's a good point!

@nal8503

4 жыл бұрын

Is it a subsection of the original Library of Babel or can this be transformed to the Library of Babel by a morphism? Given that the chromatic scale has 12 notes, with the alphabet having 26 letters, one could identify sequences of notes as specific letters (and numbers to complete the library). In the infinite instance the two libraries would then be equal, although likely shuffled versions of each other. On a finite hard drive I'm too lazy to figure out the discrepancies, especially because I'm too lazy to consider the rhythmic aspect in full.

@MisterAppleEsq

4 жыл бұрын

@@nal8503 I mean, there is theoretically a way of converting text into music, so yes, all melodies are technically encoded in the Library of Babel if you devise an isomorphism that can convert between them.

@jllemin4

4 жыл бұрын

More like Library of standard melody

@gatofury2000

4 жыл бұрын

Except its a bunch of lame sounding midis lol

I'm not a musician but this subject has always baffled and troubled me. How is any musical artist supposed to be aware of every piece of music created previously to protect themselves from accusations of copyright infringement? I'm glad that somebody with the knowhow is taking this seriously and challenging it.

"You're probably not gonna have a melody that spans 3 octaves" Technical Death Metal: Hold my beer

Court: It has three million views! How haven't you seen it? Me: There are 209 million people in Brazil, that doesn't mean I've met a Brazillian person...

@samh9642

4 жыл бұрын

Ignorance is no excuse before the law unfortunately. Either way, this comment will be used as evidence against you.

@SGresponse

4 жыл бұрын

Meh. Real argument is: there are over a billion Chinese people. Every single one of them has seen China. And yet not only have I not seen China - I also do not have "access" to it.

@arobertsson11

4 жыл бұрын

@@SGresponse Winnie the Jinpooh, boom now you never will have access to China

@TheSquareOnes

4 жыл бұрын

@@SGresponse Playing devil's advocate, actually I believe you do since they're using "access" in the sense of "could reasonably gain this information and make use of it." You obviously have knowledge about China so in that sense you do have access to China with regards to a case where it's being argued that you've... violated copyright law by using China in your art without the permission of the China copyright holder? Ok, the example doesn't translate very well towards the end there, but that's the sort of structure being argued here. It's purely a question of whether or not you were aware of the existence of the thing that you've copied.

@landel_

4 жыл бұрын

Well, so nice to meet tou, Kapin! (I swear I wont tell them you met me)

The real question now is: who really owns "the lick"?

@HermelJaworski

4 жыл бұрын

no one, public domain ;)

@emmanuellehuu8818

4 жыл бұрын

It's Adam, of course ;)

@ethangregorymusic

4 жыл бұрын

;)

@Zeta9966

4 жыл бұрын

FAULT LINE “The Lick” owns us..... bububububuhhh buhbummmmmmm

@rngsilvercraft3995

4 жыл бұрын

It occurs to me that "the lick" was actually generated as one of the 68 billion melodies…

He might be the only lawyer that doesn't go to hell.

What a genius idea, I really hope this helps shut down some frivolous lawsuits in the future. The only thing that copyright should apply to is a piece of music in its entirety; trying to lay claim to any single aspect of it is just stupid and isn't "protecting" anyone. If I took a song that you made and said "I made this", or did a cover or remix of it without crediting you, then I would (and should) expect to be sued, but anything less blatant than that should require VERY compelling evidence of intentional theft to not immediately be laughed out of a courtroom.

So this is basically the library of Babel for music.

@LegendBegins

4 жыл бұрын

@@lostintheinternet2814 The Library of Babel is an algorithm that you can use to map any input to any coordinate set. This is a list of melodies, which is a different concept, both legally and practically.

@swampboat8725

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucabarsher1002 But the website probably isn't.

@MangoMotors

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucabarsher1002 it's not "infinite". It's just larger than any human can reasonably ever comb through. It would not be technically possible for it to be infinite with our current technology as even though text requires not a lot of data, an invite amount of small bits of data is still an infinite amount of data and the world only has so much data.

@MangoMotors

4 жыл бұрын

@@lostintheinternet2814 as someone already said, the library of babel wasn't created for copy right reasons. Also, words, sentences/phrases, paragraphs and such have different legal parameters than music does. It's much harder for someone to sue someone else for copyright on literary works than musical, as the bar is actually quite high on that. While these guys are trying to fight how music copyright suing has a pretty low bar now.

@daqedo

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucabarsher1002 no. not even close. while the amount of combinations is absolutely massive, the algorithm is not infinite. just very big

big industry lawyer: let's sue every small musician Damien Riehl: *i'm about to end this man's whole career*

@dustygalline4222

4 жыл бұрын

these galaxy brains forgot that human beings still decide the outcome of copyright cases and would laugh these idiots out of the courtroom

@Competitive_Antagonist

4 жыл бұрын

If the copy righted storage device falls into the wrong hands musicians could be paying royalties to some greedy billionaire.

@drviper102

4 жыл бұрын

@@Competitive_Antagonist even if the physical drive falls into someone else's hand it's still copyrighted by the guys who made it.. You could sell the physical object but the music still belongs to the original creator unless they sell the ownership of the actual music.

@Competitive_Antagonist

4 жыл бұрын

@@drviper102 I was actually thinking about in their demise. Though now I realise how little I know of copyright law. I'm just thinking of ways it could be abused. The selling of the ownership is my concern. Who will own the copyright after them if they choose to keep it active? Could it fall into greedy hands that way?

@SolarChris3010

4 жыл бұрын

@@Competitive_Antagonist After their death, the music becomes public domain after 50 years like other intellectual property. Before that though, it will be inherited and I would doubt they would want to taint their relative's goalsp

(5:40) The same goes for text. If you define each possible position being A-Z, space, comma, period, question mark, quotation mark, and a capital marker. This is 32 characters. So if you define 0 as space, then , . ? " ˄ A-Z, you can convert any text into a number, and any number into text. (The rule says that all letter are lowercase unless at the start, or after a period, question mark or capital marker, and a higher value is to the right and not left) So the list goes: 0= 1=, 2=. 3=? and the later 30=Y 31=Z 32= A 33=,a 34=.A 35=?A _Hello_ would be 13×32⁰ + 10×32¹ + 17×32² + 17×32³ + 20×32⁴ = 13×1 + 10×32 + 17×1024 + 17×32768 + 20×1048576 = 13+320+17408+557056+20971520 = 21546317 21546317=Hello 21546316=Gello 21546315=Fello 21546314=Eello 21546313=Dello Every book ever written limited to A-Z , . ? " ˄ space, can be generated into a number above. The capital marker is there so you can differentiate "may" and "May". You can further expand this number to include more markers like 0-9 ( ) ! / - $ £ € and markers for accents ` ´ ¨ ˚ ~ ˇ so you can cover more books and languages. But the numbers become even larger. This is actually the exact method used by the Library of Babel, but restricted to A-Z , . space, to reduce the size of these numbers.

Somewhere in that drive is the most fire melody I made yesterday...

2020: the dawn of the 3 octave melody.

@GrahamCantin

4 жыл бұрын

Late 2020: Project members discover existing bruteforcing tools using GPUs 2021: the dawn of the 8 octave melody Late 2021: nvidia releases 10,000+ shader GPU 2022: the dawn of the 144 octave melody This sounds just like my television did in the 90s when I didn't have cable. It sounds like the HBO intro. Oh look, someone who can afford premium channels. Hold my beer. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iYybsNFug9DPntI.html

@gillianomotoso328

4 жыл бұрын

“Beyond the Wheel” by Soundgarden (original take) covers D2 to F5!!!

@StanislovasRiska

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6eGz9qyd9Xbh6w.html suddenly vocal melodies become Pearl Jam

@edgarm2rts

4 жыл бұрын

Preferable in minor then, since they were not clever enough to use a chromatic scale for their permutations...

@user-lf8yi1bo4p

4 жыл бұрын

But Did they covered microtonals?

"we were having drinks one night..." great start to a story

@mfaizsyahmi

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't quite poetic as the British version, "we were in the pub one night". Then they can wrap the whole story as being "from pubs to publications"

@mrkrunch4340

4 жыл бұрын

Most great stories start that way!

Now, every time I produce music I will think about the fact that the melodies in that song are all on that drive

Adam. This is great work! So much respect!

I would love to see a world where pop music turns microtonal because of the laws in the United States preventing people from writing anything in standard 12 tone

@hecko-yes

4 жыл бұрын

that wouldn't stop people from doing the thing again but with different sets of notes eventually there could be 2 tribes of music bruteforcers, those who copyright stuff for themselves and those who put it under the public domain

@digitaljanus

4 жыл бұрын

Hey, the logical conclusion of Rick Beato's argument.

@xjustheadx

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, USA law applies worldwide...

@kassemir

4 жыл бұрын

Well, you would still be able to make traditional music and profit from said music, you just wouldn't be able to sue or get sued for copyright infringement on the melody of the song. Though, as the whole "groove" thing proves, this issue is bigger than that. Oh... and of course lyrics would also still be within copyright. Of course there would also need to be some sort of legal case setting legal president on the side of this brute force approach, before it would impact the number of law suits. So yeah... I like the concept, but I'm skeptical it'll have much effect in real life applications.

@remembertotakeshowerspleas355

4 жыл бұрын

@@xjustheadx The US has been the center of the music industry for generations now, every popular musical style of the current era started here. If our popstars started cranking out mictrotonal tunes it would be guaranteed that everyone else's would as well. Welcome to globalism.

Top 10 anime betrayals: These guys end up suing Adam after this video gets 3 million views.

@mochilata

4 жыл бұрын

We've inadvertently created a monster with our views.

@TexasToad

4 жыл бұрын

hey guys thanks for tuning in to watch mojo... LMAO

@adithahsan752

4 жыл бұрын

fury 12 Adam got sued?

@ItzTheFury

4 жыл бұрын

@@adithahsan752 Noo^^ I was joking

@knower1514

4 жыл бұрын

Adith Ahsan yes, $64600

It's like Lennon said: "Music is everybody's possession. It's only publishers who think that people own it.”

I wrote the riff from My Heart Will Go On, 2 years before it was copyrighted by someome else. I had to change the bridge in my song so that it was different enough to be unrecognizable, even though I wrote it first. (I was just a teenager and could not prove that I has written it first.) I have also written pieces of music at least 6 times that were inadvertently the same (in part or in whole) to other pieces of music. Fortunately, I caught all of them before recording. On the one hand, it is a constant stressor that I might write the same piece as someone else without ever hearing theirs. On the other, if someone knowingly copies my melody, I should get some songwriting credit. It is a difficult dilemma, as a small singer/songwriter and composer...also, should ythere be different rules for instrumentals? I write a lot of piano solos. Everyone says, "It's not like anything else out there," so chances are that anyone who duplicates my work, copied it. I know that I would probably lose any case, just becauss I am a small artist, regardless of who is in the right. With such an unjust system, maybe simply being less unfair is better, by claiming that it is all already copyrighted anyway.

@iamblue-dx8ez

Жыл бұрын

All the songs I write is put into a cd and then sent to myself and a friend via post system. Every letter has a stamp with a date on it. If I'd bring something out and someone would sue me, that person better be born before WW2

@songsofsusannah

Жыл бұрын

@@iamblue-dx8ez it's better to have a time-stamped file, in fact even if marked Private, a timestamped KZread file is better protection. Mailing it to yourself doesn't hold up in court. I recently had a situation in which my husband e-mailed me a KZread video that had several measures in common with a song that I have a time-stamped saved sheet music file of, that I wrote in 2000. I won't sue them if they won't sue me! I'm sure that they didn't hear mine first. Back when I wrote my Scottish piece, CD burners weren't around yet. I could've done that with a cassette but I never thought it would happen, what are the odds?

Remember when John Fogerty was sued by Fantasy Records for sounding like John Fogerty (after he left the record company)...

@raymondleggs5508

4 жыл бұрын

lol!

@ScottGrammer

4 жыл бұрын

Vanz can't dance, but he'll steal your money....

@TheKrensada

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's some real horse shit right there.

@podcastparlor4128

4 жыл бұрын

Vanz was a scumbag. RIH.

@OgdenM

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised by this. It frequently is the record companies that actually own the copyright. This is why there are under 20-50 melodies in MOST popular music (across ALL generas). The record companies just reuse the popular melodies with different singers, rhythm and instruments. We humans are great at pattern recognition on a sub conscious level when it comes to stuff like that. Our sub conscious goes, "HEY! I know this" gives us a spike of pleasure while most people's conscious brains are like, "Oh cool! New song!" and tada! "New" Hit song!

Welcome to jazz, where stealing other people's improv ideas is welcomed

@yaboirico5221

4 жыл бұрын

and blues. every song is the same. same for black metal, except it's not real black metal if it's new.

@Anorexiaification

4 жыл бұрын

And no melody on tonics, no usual chords and so on!

@Bab.y

4 жыл бұрын

Hit the road jackkk

Great video. Informative and thought provoking.

"My father patented the question mark." ~ Dr. Evil

Plug this into your brain and you can start to feel all the midi-chlorians

@syborg64

4 жыл бұрын

Haha ! I'm just leaving a comment reply so the algorithm promotes this video!

@mikoajflis9072

4 жыл бұрын

@@syborg64 Algorhytm generating the melodies had no chance to listen to it however

@syborg64

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikoajflis9072 was referring to the KZread algorithm lol

@Lynvix

4 жыл бұрын

UNLIMITED POWER

@RizKaira

4 жыл бұрын

Midichordians.

Me: poorly tunes my instrument Music industry: he is onto something

@raskov75

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, that's interesting. What about Adam's lo-fi hiphop to study to vids? Intentionally off-pitch. I bet those melodies arent on the disk.

@TheParadox1010

4 жыл бұрын

A is always A. 440, 435, or fucking 2. He is copy righting everything, so they won’t be copy righted. Also reddit humor isn’t funny.

@tonyt987

4 жыл бұрын

Bartleby They clearly aren’t. They stated this in the video... did you even watch it?

@BoopyTheFox

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheParadox1010 What is reddit humor? (Not ironic, genuinely don't know what you mean by that)

@analogaudiorules1724

4 жыл бұрын

- most nu metal

Calculating the maximum number of possible combinations for all potential melodies is an extremely complex task due to the infinite nature of music and the numerous variables involved. It's not feasible to provide an exact calculation. However, I can try to illustrate the scale of possibilities by considering a few factors: Note Choices: Let's assume a chromatic scale with 12 unique notes within an octave. Melody Length: Suppose we consider melodies of varying lengths, ranging from 4 to 16 notes. Repetition and Rests: Account for the possibilities of repeating notes, rests, and different durations for each note. Rhythm and Phrasing: Incorporate variations in note durations, accents, and rhythmic patterns. With these factors in mind, we can estimate the number of possible melodies by considering the different choices at each step. However, it's important to note that this estimation is still a simplification due to the vast number of variables and potential musical variations. Let's proceed with the estimation: If we assume an average of 10 possible note choices per note position (considering repetition and rests), and consider melodies ranging from 4 to 16 notes, we can estimate the number of possible melodies as follows: 4-note melody: 10^4 = 10,000 possible melodies 5-note melody: 10^5 = 100,000 possible melodies 6-note melody: 10^6 = 1,000,000 possible melodies Continuing this pattern up to a 16-note melody: 16-note melody: 10^16 = 10,000,000,000,000,000 possible melodies (10 quadrillion) Please note that this estimation is a rough approximation, and the actual number of possible melodies would be significantly larger when considering further variations and musical parameters.

Question: theoretically, if we all trusted/believed that these guys would never do wrong to the community, couldn’t they just copyright every single melody on that hard drive and then simply choose to never pursue legal action against anyone? Then, all the melodies would already be copyrighted by them, so no one else could copyright those melodies, and therefore all the melodies would be safe and free for everyone to use because the copyrights are owned by a couple of people that will have forever chosen to never charge royalties for anyone that happens to use those melodies?

@firstthessalonian6889

2 жыл бұрын

Would that mean the end of the music industry? Or is music merely the vehicle to transmit ideas, and move social capital?

That "throwing a wrench into the works of copyright" is originally how the Free Software movement came along. By encoding in the software license that a user of a program must have access to the source code of that program, and making it so that other programs that reference that source code need to abide by the same rules, it turns the system of copyright and software licensing on its head.

@riczi.j

4 жыл бұрын

And that's why it's sometimes called "copyleft".

@youKnowWho3311

4 жыл бұрын

It's essentially the same as copyrighting numbers. Remember Google v. Oracle sued over Java, and lost. I can tell you if Lars Ulrich sees this video he may spontaneously combust.

@MrBaskevin

4 жыл бұрын

@@riczi.j badum thccss!

@Christi3443

4 жыл бұрын

Being a computer scientist myself I think free software is cool - but obviously some things should be protected. Of course there is code that is so trivial that it does not deserve to be protected (like sending a message to a server using a standard library) but other code like a complex algorithm to solve a specific problem should be protectable.

@sbp4215

4 жыл бұрын

@@Christi3443 but y tho?

at this rate, im still waiting on a random neanderthal from the Pleistocene to copyright 4/4

@Joelevans7

4 жыл бұрын

Haha Yeah right

@mirabilos

4 жыл бұрын

Things created by people dead for more than 70 years don’t have copyright protection. (In the USA, different periods apply.)

@NikkElektrik

4 жыл бұрын

@@mirabilos thanks Captain Buzzkill!

@matheuscastello6554

4 жыл бұрын

mirabilos i know!! im joking

If a court in the future is wondering, I never had access to this video

Very interesting approach!! This is good news for musicians!!

My name is Melody and can confirm that I have been copyrighted.

@BillStreetStudios

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

@BillStreetStudios

4 жыл бұрын

You and every other Melody in the world

Well, I guess we'll start registering everything on A = 440.01c

@mrmaniac3

4 жыл бұрын

Vaporwave: *_「ｗｈｙ　ｎｏｔ　Ａ＝４２０Ｈｚ?」_*

@Merlincat007

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrmaniac3 Baroque ensembles would like to know your location

@Coolguy8623

4 жыл бұрын

@@Merlincat007 hahaha

@xLegendaryPictures

4 жыл бұрын

Haha😂 I'm dying that's so smart

@efari

4 жыл бұрын

A melody doesn’t take in account the actual notes. This database is midi information, which just records the relative differences in pitches. Not the absolute pitches, nor tonalities.

Thanks, Adam. As you say: "The whole system 's screwed anyway [...] As a musician I don't feel particularly protected under copyright law. I feel rather threatened in fact." (9:40).

So I've been browsing the web for the last 2 hours looking for a software which is able to pitch a sample of a noise to notations that I can fill in that said programm. So far I haven't found this programm. But I am glad to have found this channel. Maybe within the comment section is somebody who know a programm for my desire.

I was like "So this involves programming, music, and the law", and the comes and says "I'm a lawyer, a programmer, and a musician"

wouldn't it be funny if some company claimed this video because it "has" their melody "in" it?

@Wrighjj

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure that's coming.

@PubbleBoy

4 жыл бұрын

Sam Smith could I guess...

@henryrichard7619

4 жыл бұрын

Every company would claim it, and then no one would make money.

@aceof8S

4 жыл бұрын

@@henryrichard7619 partially the point of this, is that this hard drive has already been copyrighted and so they could counter copyright sue & probably get a chunk of change from most of them. I would love it if somebody used it like: musician gets sued by corporation, someone steps in and comtests the corporation trying to claim something that _they_ actually owned, they then give the rights to, or allow usage for the musician for free, and then everybody moves on. Think of it as a punishment only to the greedy :)

@z-beeblebrox

4 жыл бұрын

@@henryrichard7619 The irony is you can't claim ad revenue unless youtube matches data from the video with your music, so it would actually be impossible for even one company to make money off of it

_We need an update on this, Adam._ I can't find anything online about how this development has been affecting legal cases. I don't even want to work on music anymore because of this, since it would turn anything I write (or perform or upload) into an absolutely _free gift_ for big music companies to just take for their own artists, with no attribution or compensation, since it's "all public domain, man." Total, complete, eternal win for Big Music Corporations. And this is a "good thing". smh

The combined views of this video and the Ted talk are almost halfway to 3 million. Let's goooo

"As a musician I don't feel particularly protected under copyrightlaw, I feel rather threatened in fact" - copyright was always intended to benefit publishers rather than authors

@legitt6093

4 жыл бұрын

This!

@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, and it sucks. Copyright should be a tool FOR creators, not AGAINST them.

@siddharthiyer7244

4 жыл бұрын

@@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 "You were supposed to HELP the creators, not DESTROY them!"

@theskankingpigeon965

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah with the whole life + 95 years thing. Absolute joke.

@unclepodger

4 жыл бұрын

Beatles have joined the chat

"They have to prove they didn't have access to this video." See, that's the issue. Justice is supposed to operate on presumption of innocence. That is instead a presumption of guilt.

@TheSorrowfulAngel

4 жыл бұрын

If they CAN prove they did not have access(Which is... well, difficult to do - proving non-existence)... case would be done. Touting the lack of proof as an argument? Someone doesn't understand the concept of "Burden of Evidence" and I wonder how that got through in a court...

@TheSorrowfulAngel

4 жыл бұрын

@Nolo Kobo That is... sad. I know it, but I do not want to believe it.

@lazycouch1

4 жыл бұрын

It's not logical in that context though. If a criminal was found bathed in blood then it is a reasonable assumption to suspect a crime. I'll agree it is over-zealous but is necessary for the nature of deduction. I believe your argument should instead be refined into the specific parameters of what delineates an overly-presumptuous rationale versus a reasonable conclusion.

@DissociatedWomenIncorporated

4 жыл бұрын

Justice is supposed to be a lot of things. Like for one, justice isn't supposed to be about getting vengeance. Yet the only country to actually realise this, apparently, has been Norway, and all the other countries have either claimed the Norwegian solution is somehow evil, or claimed that it only works due to unique quirks of Norwegian geography(?). So... any of the other backwards, barbaric "justice" systems acting in an unjust fashion is hardly a surprise. We're such a backwards species that there's still people who argue for the death penalty, so something like _this_ is centuries beyond the ability of these barbarian courts to understand. I'm surprised they don't automatically just put all musician claimants to death for "auditory witchcraft and rhythmic sorcery most foule". Because sadly, putting a faeces flinging chimpanzee in a fancy 18th century wig (my commonwealth homies will understand that reference) doesn't change their base nature as a faeces flinging chimpanzee.

@doctorjones278

4 жыл бұрын

Unless we sat and listened to all 63 billion songs, which I'm no math whiz but I would assume takes a decent amount of time, there is no legal basis to assume we heard a song that was already protected with a copyright, hence no "real" access.

Interesting stuff. I studied commercial music in the late 90's which involved mixing, mastering, copyrighting and all that jazz. Even back then there was concern that all the best melodies/riffs would run out fairly soon. Coming up with totally original and good music is very difficult these days.

I totally, completely agree that copyright sucks in ways not even judges or the average citizen might fully understand, but... what would make a better system? What would resolve the ambiguities? The music makers community, if bothered tremendously about this topic should come up with proposals. I'd be interested in supporting such initiatives.

Lawyers: we used a computer to create every possible melody Bach: Yea, I did that by hand like 400 years ago

@lo-firobotboy7112

4 жыл бұрын

And yet, Bach actually used existing melodies and folk tunes to create much of his work. Think of what would have happened if the Sony and Warner lawyers would have been around back then.

@justronjay9226

4 жыл бұрын

@Bratislav Metulski They create both.

@drdca8263

4 жыл бұрын

Bratislav Metulski given a source of true randomness, for any file a person can create, a computer can create with some positive probability.

@lo-firobotboy7112

4 жыл бұрын

@@drdca8263 There are a lot of examples of electronic music where machines, not only computers, are setup to run autonomously or semi-autonomously and create a variety of melodic and rhythmic elements. Some of these are repeating and some of these are open-ended and evolving. It may not be a melody in the traditional sense but it's seldom "chaos".

@drdca8263

4 жыл бұрын

lo-fi ROBOT Boy I was arguing that computers _can_ do something, not that they can’t.

"As a musician I don't feel particularly protected under copyright law, I feel rather threatened in fact". Bingo. Laws are not supposed to work that way.

@aylbdrmadison1051

4 жыл бұрын

Laws are bought and paid for by the 1%. This is nothing new, it's still all about the rich getting richer while everyone else in the world *pays* for them to get richer.

@ivysly

4 жыл бұрын

@@christiantaylor1495 ...???? what??????

@RCAvhstape

4 жыл бұрын

@@aylbdrmadison1051 Sorry, I don't buy into that leftism stuff.

@NoTraceOfSense

4 жыл бұрын

Aylbdr Madison iirc There was a show that the Soviet Union allowed to be shown there thinking that the people would see it and be appalled at how poor people live in America. Instead, they thought: “They have cars? We don’t even have cars!”

@ashrobin55

4 жыл бұрын

@@NoTraceOfSense that sounds like cold comfort to the millions that die due to exposure or starvation.

I agree completely with their stated goals, creators need to feel free to create not looking over their shoulder at every turn

These two rock! I'd love to hear about some popular music that came out after their filing that matches one of their melodies.

Now imagine these guys suddenly switching to the dark side and claiming every video on KZread.

@Arckanex

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a real possibility!

@VenjaMusic

4 жыл бұрын

yeah, in stead of notes they will have to render pixels... go figuring :-)

@FriedrichHerschel

4 жыл бұрын

Didn't they say they released it into public domain? Then not even they can make a copyright claim.

@Arckanex

4 жыл бұрын

FriedrichHerschel people easily change their minds

@FriedrichHerschel

4 жыл бұрын

@@Arckanex But you can't "un-release" from public domain.

I've once seen a video on KZread where a was making a music (during a live stream) and then at one point someone made a comment saying that his music sounded exactly like a music some independent artist had already made. He went and checked the music. The beginning sounded exactly the same. Coincidences happen.

@Superboygamer1028

4 жыл бұрын

Is that logic 1-800

@xtdycxtfuv9353

4 жыл бұрын

link

@adamofblastworks1517

4 жыл бұрын

Remember that time Deadmaus accidentally remade part of Darude - Sandstorm?

@iamcheeseman

4 жыл бұрын

A6D?

@iamcheeseman

4 жыл бұрын

@@xtdycxtfuv9353 kzread.info/dash/bejne/o6WcmppsiLO3ddo.html

Rhythm and note length is intrinsic to melody!

KZread even puts ads on films of cover bands I have filmed because they played a song Somebody owns.

Here is a dictionary. I'm copyrighting all the words.

@GamerZakh

4 жыл бұрын

You'll need to copyright all the word combinations for it to work. They aren't copyrighting notes.

@mastertrey4683

4 жыл бұрын

GamerZakh Not really the same can be said about letters to words

@JohnSmith-ox3gy

4 жыл бұрын

GamerZakh So library of babel and start churning out .txt files.

@GamerZakh

4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-ox3gy Yeah you can try. Copyright law doesn't allow you to copyright common phrases or individual words by themselves, so you can use a word as a brand name for a clothing line but it's only relevant to clothing lines. It's hard to even copyright sentences, otherwise you wouldn't be able to quote people in books. You would need something like multiple lines of lyrics or paragraphs of text, then you can copyright it.

@jazzcatt

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamerZakh Then how did AOL sue a woman for using "You've got male" for her dating site? And a woman in San Diego was sued by Sax Fifth Avenue for naming her resale shop Sacks 5th Avenue.

I thought he was gonna copyright them all so that no one can sue anymore cause he would own everything and in good faith not run after any of them.

@ZaneDalton

4 жыл бұрын

blackknightkanos Is that not what he did? I haven’t watched the whole video yet.

@ArkhBaegor

4 жыл бұрын

@@ZaneDalton It is, copyrighting is an automatic process, as soon as it was recorded on a physical medium it became copyrighted

@kassemir

4 жыл бұрын

@@ArkhBaegor Well, in theory. But you still have to enforce that copyright through a court of law which they probably can't do for every case like this in practice. This thing is really more of a thought experiement than anything else to try and shift the perspective we have of copyright, individually and legally. Also, they literally state at the end of the video that they made the code and the dataset public domain, and thus not their own personal copyright.

@CronosTsHastaroth

4 жыл бұрын

He released in public domain, so no one can copyright it.

@thesuperfluousone2537

4 жыл бұрын

"I have successfully privatized world peace. What more do you want?" - Tony Stark

Pi also contains every note of every song, every equation that can be written, every recipe ever made and will be made, every password, the bank balance of every human, in fact somewhere in the Pi equation there are a sequence of numbers forming an algorithm to everything.

I think he is doing the right thing. I'm actually paranoid to the point about posting music online that I write or even playing my own music in front of someone that could have perfect pitch because my music isn't copyrighted. I just feel like anyone could be like oh that sounds good. Let's steal it and then copyright this material before this individual does so in case he chooses to publish anything we can say we wrote it first.

I used to always shy away when I made a new melody saying something like "Nah thats already been made". But then I said fuck it, I cant have the man turn me down everytime I feel a made something cool.

@arnavibaidya5650

4 жыл бұрын

I literally said that today and my friend made me watch this video

the lick is somewhere on that hard drive

@dishwasherdetergent3366

4 жыл бұрын

a terrifying thought

@AcevedoDMA

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine owning the copyright for the lick.

@Metafelle

2 жыл бұрын

@@AcevedoDMA you'd own the entire universe

@progect3548

2 жыл бұрын

Actually probably about 24 times.

LOL. I wrote about this possibility about 35 years ago. I did a lot of research, and it was hard getting people to agree on what is the smallest piece of melody that can be copyrighted. Exactly how many bars. When you start stringing together bars into longer songs, the permutations become almost infinite. But if you agree that the smaller sections of a song can still be copyrighted, then the combinations don't matter. In my story, the programmer demanded royalties. And I posed the question of whether that would shut down creativity in writing new songs. I also questioned whether people would develop a taste for dissonance, because it hadn't been copyrighted.

I do agree that LIFE + 95 years is the sticking point here. That length of time for ANY copyright is simply ludicrous.

"As a musician I don't feel particularly protected under copyrightlaw, I feel rather threatened in fact". That's spot on Adam, same paradox with the complete Article 13 thing we are getting here in Europe. At least in the minds of the politicians they feel like they're helping for once.

@narrowstone5363

4 жыл бұрын

Too bad they're actually damaging

@simongunkel7457

4 жыл бұрын

The issues with the EU copyright directive basically come down to a variety of interests and there was the issue that the big 4 massively lobbied against Article 13, which made at least some politicians think that all the creators opposing it were basically astroturfed. And when the other side of that issue includes a number of European companies 8whereas the big 4 are all US based) it bacame a matter of "Well, we're playing into some corporate interests here, let's go with the corporations that actually pay taxes here." Doesn't make it a good idea, but that became the rationale under which Article 13 could happen.

@SharpElevenMusic

4 жыл бұрын

@@simongunkel7457 That an interesting analysis of the matter, you are probably right. That's all politics at it's best, the smaller and medium creators being the most affected like always

@tiihtu2507

4 жыл бұрын

Countries that voted against the directive: Finland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Poland and Sweden Countries that abstained from the vote: Belgium, Estonia and Slovenia All the other countries voted for it.

@simongunkel7457

4 жыл бұрын

@john m Actually national parliaments have the final say on whether it gets implemented into national law. There is nothing that forces compliance with directives. But you know which countries are top of the list when it comes to compliance? Switzerland followed by Norway. Unlike EU members the EU itself can sanction them by changing how it does trade with them. So, the chances of Article 13 becoming law in the UK have gone *up* with Brexit, because as a member state the EU as an organization had no sway, now it can restrict access to the common market for the UK. Funny how that works.

@9:53 "as a musician, I don't feel PROTECTED by copyright law..." wholeheartedly agree. The copyright law system has become twisted to protect huge corporations, and perhaps some huge artists, not individual artists. I'm actually writing a large scale piece right now, and since this piece has a really high chance of getting staged, every time I come up with an idea, I'm almost always gripped with terror that there's some copyrighted piece I'm inadvertently "stealing" from (i.e. in reality it just sounds similar in some way or has some notes in common with) and I might get sued by some greedy corporation over something innocent that's just a normal part of the creative process.

@the5thYearSeniors

Жыл бұрын

If you were ever sued for copywrite and ever went to court it would be super suspicious to the court that you went around telling people that you are worried that you stole the music.

@composerdoh

Жыл бұрын

@@the5thYearSeniors Inadvertently wrote something similar, not STOLE. I'm worried some greedy company or party with deep pockets would call it stealing, not that it IS stealing. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the creative process, but it's not so cut and dry. Look up a video on Leonard Bernstein's melody for "Somewhere" from West Side Story. One fragment is very similar to Beethoven, another from Tchaikovsky, another from someplace else... he apparently was conducting all of these pieces close to the time he wrote that. I'm sure he didn't sit there like he was constructing Frankenstein's monster and consciously construct his melody out of these pieces. It seems far more likely to me that he just "followed his nose" and the melody was constructed and all the influences and connections were unconscious. Anyone who accuses him of "stealing" I think does not understand or admit how the process works and is likely horribly rigid in their thinking. (Or dishonest and/or greedy.) One could look at BERNSTEIN'S "source material" (Beethoven, etc.) and if one had access to all of THEIR influences, one could do the same, and follow the process almost forever to before music was written down. It would be absurd for any of them to sue each other. But if you meant your comment as a word of advice... then thank you. I actually think it's very unlikely anyone would want to sue. I doubt it will make that much money that someone would care, even if I did inadvertently have some notes or progressions similar to someone else that I didn't intend.

@cchavezjr7

Жыл бұрын

@@composerdoh you can't compare that as all of those are in the public domain and were at the time as well. Themes and variations were used by other composers to impart certain feels, etc. It doesn't necessarily have to be subconscious for things like that.

@nsahandler

Жыл бұрын

All I have to say is that octets aren't subject to copyright (by Judicial precident). You have to blatantly copy a song in tone, pitch, and melody in a way that the average listener would be able to point out.

10 bucks says I can make something that isn't on there Also Mr. Man at 1:42 looking like the chad face meme

Lol, I absolutely adore you Adam. Well done!