It's fucking wild that Jokic, of all people, gets this conversation going. Embiid and Luka and Durant do this night after night after night and nobody bats an eye. Jokic, the guy who plays down low with the ball more than anyone, the guy whose arms are covered in scars from plays that didn't draw a whistle, gets superstar calls for ONE GAME and everyone loses their minds. Jokic is first in the league, by far, in touches. He's first in the league, by far, in post ups, post up attempts, and post up makes. Jokic is 16th in free throws per game. Jokic is not the problem here.

What's the use of the Flopping violation if dumb ass refs can't tell what a flop is????

@VanPham-so3pv

5 ай бұрын

I watch NBA a lot. However, I’m yet to see flopping call this season

@Giganticonion

5 ай бұрын

@@VanPham-so3pvthey called two against the warriors the game before. One on Steph, one on pods. Neither were flops. Most inconsistent call in the nba rn

@AUDIO2AUTO

5 ай бұрын

@@VanPham-so3pv They just called 2 on Goldenstate in the SAME GAME.. smh. The fix is in.

@camerongray2233

5 ай бұрын

@@VanPham-so3pv got called 3 times against the warriors and blazers they choose when to call them

@ThorGodofThunder420

5 ай бұрын

​@@camerongray2233exactly. Coaches challenge should be able to challenge flops too. But to do that, they'd need more challenges. They only give them 1 challenge and 1 extra because the refs are doing this shit on purpose. Imagine if it was like baseball and you could challenge until you got one wrong. That's how you make the game better. Problem is, they can't challenge if there's no whistle. So maybe they did foul, but it's a weak foul and you aren't getting the same whistle on the other end. It's never gonna feel fair.

You know what the NBA need in order to fix the league from flopping. The NBA needs to hire international refs, not refs from their state, it's clear that some refs are cheating in favoring their favorite team. And also they are soft asf, HIRE SOME INTERNATIONAL REFS!!!!

@Tuck600

5 ай бұрын

International refs still gotta follow NBA rules

@rize4957

5 ай бұрын

@@Tuck600 yeah, but they are much more disciplined on how to call fouls, give tech at the right way, and are a much better in observing

@yndiiatecow2536

5 ай бұрын

The refs need to be investigated for gambling. Gambling is now legal, thus, the refs join in.😂😂😂😂😂

@fy4072

5 ай бұрын

The problem is the league itself. Any ref would get corrupted by such a league that 'encourages' this sort of thing.

@yndiiatecow2536

5 ай бұрын

@@fy4072 what sort of things?

One of the reasons the NBA players lose in international play. These are NOT fouls in international play.

@rda6029

5 ай бұрын

The problem is that many of those jokic calls were clearly not fouls!

@ellenseymour2304

5 ай бұрын

Correct

@silewis9396

5 ай бұрын

​​@@rda6029The root of the problem - according to Kerr - is the league wants to reduce defense to promote offense. So it is not exclusive to Jokić

@VanPham-so3pv

5 ай бұрын

Let’s be real - all of those fouls would be called on Curry too

@georgeaniweh9665

5 ай бұрын

​@@VanPham-so3pvthat's not true. Steph was fouled a lot on his drives to the basket last night but shot only one free throw which was a technical foul.

The other day, LeBron bumped into a guard from the Boston Celtics, fell down to the ground like a transport hit him. Looking like he was in agony holding his shoe like a soccer player does. About 2 minutes afterwards, LeBron was just fine.

@elijahwoods5326

5 ай бұрын

Exactly. lebron lost control trying to deny the ball from jaylen brown, kneeing brown in the back I don’t know how there wasn’t a foul called and lebron goes down after he looks back and sees brown going down

@mcgusjustice

5 ай бұрын

@@elijahwoods5326also lebron gets fouled every drive and doesnt get a call like he should . You dont get to bring up Lebron but not tell the wgole story

@judyclarkson5887

5 ай бұрын

​@@mcgusjusticeif you call every bit of contact as a foul then an nba game could last for 4 hours full duh 😂😂 don't be soft like your king and let them play,, that should be the nature of how it's played

@SapphicTwist

5 ай бұрын

Lebron, Embid, Paul, Harden, Jokic...a lot of the top names in the sport have been getting a free ride from the officials for a long time now.

@AtWaterRoundTree

5 ай бұрын

Giannis the only one not flopping right now

Curry gets these same bumps and gets no call.

honestly its crazy considering how curry doesnt get the same calls and these giants do like why?!

@silewis9396

5 ай бұрын

Cos they be trying to take outside shots all the time

@lestonclark2398

5 ай бұрын

​@@silewis9396nah even when curry drives for the floater he draws contact almost everytime...

@abb7392

5 ай бұрын

On hand you want to call him the greatest shooter ever than pretend as if he is regularly driving in the paint fearlessly. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. The vast majority of his shots are perimeter shots or long jumpers

@sreeragsathyan7349

5 ай бұрын

​@@abb7392well he does both he shoots inside the 3 pt line close to 11 shots per game and outside it, almost 12 shots per game. And he averages 5.9 freethrows per game. Technically he gets close to 2 shooting fouls per game out of like 23 shots per game 11 of them are from inside the 3 pt line where most of them are inside the paint. Compare it to any other star and you'll know how less does steph get calls

@lxvi2441

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@abb7392this simply isn’t true. Steph drives nearly as often as lebron James brah. This is a statistically objective fact

Now the NBA is playing NO TOUCHING BASKETBALL..😂😂😂..

@howardhuang5371

5 ай бұрын

Right, make it a non contact sport😊

@CleanMusicLover229

5 ай бұрын

They've been playing it when Embiid has been doing it for years

Kerr was rational and pretty calm in the press conference. To call his demeanor "insane" is just stupid.

I think most of these are fouls, but that's not the conversation, the talk should be around the consistency, if one team is allowed to defend physically the other team should be allowed to do so too

@yg2522

5 ай бұрын

thats the real issue. either call the same stuff on both teams or don't call them at all. at least there the team can adapt. but having only one side get called for stuff and not the other is basically ref ball.

@lakerfan2874

5 ай бұрын

​@@yg2522 They aren't allowed to call the same fould on both teams because it'll slow the game. We just don't see a lot of ghost fouls anymore because the pace has gotten quicker compared to the 2000s.

Should do a compilation of how many times Curry gets grabbed and held without getting a whistle next. The Warriors would have been in the penalty as well if the officials called the game evenly. Murray would have fouled out, Watson and Pope would have at least 4-5 fouls each. Joker definitely got a very generous officials whistle yesterday.

@BrocKelley

5 ай бұрын

You can do the same thing with how many times Curry grabs people and doesn't get called for it. You can even see it in this video.

@alexanderi2020

5 ай бұрын

If the warriors got a fair whistle games wouldn't be close. You can't guard them with all that movement without grabbing & pulling.

@ardenson123

5 ай бұрын

Yes pls make a compilation, and tag @nba @warriors , bc it genuinely feels like the nba is forcing another dumb narrative on the dubs like “not being able to win away games” last season -_-

@raz318

5 ай бұрын

Said by a Warriors fan. Don’t be a fool, every team has benefited from a whistle, including your beloved Curry and the Warriors.

@chinaskibukowski7747

5 ай бұрын

The only people that are fools are the ones that can't see Curry gets mugged continually and the officials rarely call it. @@raz318

The foul call I hate, and am seeing more and more, is pretty much what TJD did in that last example. When a defender keeps hand straight up, makes body contact with mid section, but gives ground continuously. It does bother the shooter to feel that contact, but we can't go to 'no touching' on defense unless your are perfectly set like a statue.

@ceasaragye1594

5 ай бұрын

Where you got it wrong is, did the defender lean or the one attacking initiate the contact? I don't know how you carry the ball drive hit your opponent and you still get a free throw for initiating the contact.

@UCanCallMeX

5 ай бұрын

Warriors defenders get called for this pretty frequently and somehow rarely get the same call on offense

@ceasaragye1594

5 ай бұрын

@@UCanCallMeX true

@iamtheone2000

5 ай бұрын

@@UCanCallMeXand that’s what be getting me mad, we always get called for those lil dumb fouls but steph be getting hit , grabbed , and pushed 24/7 and doesn’t get a whistle

@kballer151

5 ай бұрын

Offensive players are creating a lot of contact and getting calls. Are defenders not obligated to their own space anymore?

Jokic isn't normally a foul baiter, he gets half as many as Joel or Giannis, and much less than say Luka or Dame. Keep in mind this the the guy who is banging in the pain more than anyone in the league. He does however complain about it a lot, and this kind of felt like him playing that game. It would be a shame if his game devolved into this.

@reignmans

5 ай бұрын

blame the refs. Jokic is getting beaten the living ish out of him almost every game. i guess he's had enough. when he just watches other guys flop like fishes out of water and get rewarded for that... why would he keep getting abused?

@TheBswan

5 ай бұрын

If the league is going to reward this play then we're going to see more of it. I agree that Jokic doesn't usually play like that, but last night he wasn't hitting from the field and he kept getting foul calls when he exaggerated contact or threw his arms up, so of course he's going to keep doing it to get easy buckets from the stripe.

@alandouglas2700

5 ай бұрын

It's true. Joker doesn't get the calls. I don't know why. He's bleeding all over and has scratches all up and down his arms. But that doesn't stop him from going to the rim and shooting in the paint. It's nice that he finally got some calls but I'd still rather see him earn it the hard way! I'm proud of him for making 18 out of 18 free throws! That's awesome!

@dapidorae

5 ай бұрын

But he was flopping a lot yesterday!

@roljavi

5 ай бұрын

@@dapidorae Where do you see him flopping? Where he exaggerated anything? Video is here, show it.

What the Warriors were upset with was the lack of consistency in fouls called within the game. Jokic didn't do anything any other player wouldn't do to get calls, but at least call the ticky tack fouls the same for both teams. No way a 6'3 guard in under armours should be able to send a true 7 footer flying without some embellishment.

Jokic is a very smart player. BUT TJD took some bad angles in post D. He needs to be taught. Loony had solid straight D and still got called terrible

@lihtness

5 ай бұрын

You are basically saying that it does not matter what you do. Refs wake up and decide to gift the game one way.

@latinassassin1667

5 ай бұрын

@lihtness I'm saying TJD needs to learn Post D. NBA refs are taught to call everything and the game is slowed for it

Joker averages 6 free throws a game. This game was atypical. Usually he gets clobbered all game with out calls. Today he over reacted and finally got the calls he normally doesn’t get. I’d say players are use to fouling Joker and not getting called for it. I wish the refs would just call it fair. There use to be a different standard for star players who would get the calls all the time. Is this the case still?

I think it's interesting that a dude who got Double Tech'd out of a game just weeks ago because he was complaining about not getting calls, is now the scapegoat for getting favourable calls for flopping in ONE game.

@MrSITCHris

5 ай бұрын

He didn't even flop

@ThorGodofThunder420

5 ай бұрын

​@MrSITCHris so you're telling me when Curry was creating space with his off arm and got called for an offensive foul, he was strong enough to make Jokic fly back like that? So he's not flopping, he's just soft? No muscle? No strength? A 180lb man is moving him with 1 arm so he flies back 10 feet? You're a meat rider.

@Gnofg

5 ай бұрын

Take look at the first minute of highights of the OKC- Nuggets game. Jokic sticks his ass out which is an illegal screen and then on the roll pushed Chet out of the a way. Why no fouls on Jokic. Please explain. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eWVksqmreLixZdo.html

@Jshun40

5 ай бұрын

Dun be silly, he can push off anyone who is off balance beaten by his dribble. SHAQ will also be on his knees if your crossover plus arm throwing is good ​@ThorGodofThunder420

@Gnofg

5 ай бұрын

@@Jshun40 Yes Shaq started this outrageous pushing off. It is a foul. You can't initiate contact. The ref's let the offensive players with murder.

Here's what you didn't show: ALL THE NON-CALLED FOULS ON CURRY. If these are fouls, Curry was also fouled 10-20 times yesterday.

@woodcutta6461

5 ай бұрын

Curry had on free throw attempt in that game. I really don't get the disrespect refs have for Curry.

@HypocritesExposd

5 ай бұрын

Thing is Curry and the entire Warriors squad (minus CP3) are terrible at selling foul calls. They’ve always been bad at selling fouls. They need to get with the program and flop like everyone else. The Warriors are hated regardless, so might as well flop so the haters have more fuel.

@BrendanRankin

5 ай бұрын

​​@@HypocritesExposdI think that's Kerr's point though, right? Play ball or sell fouls? I know which I prefer. The parade to the line is very boring and the flopping is total BS! Yesterday was called totally lopsided and the game SUCKED too watch from midway through the 3rd quarter onwards.🙄🤡😡

@vince3139

5 ай бұрын

curry fan here but we gotta be real here, steph is a jump shooter, more than half of his shots are 3's, when he drives to the rim, he's finishing with finesse, very rarely do we see him jumping into the body of the defender. he averages 5.9 fta per game, jokic averages 6.3, and he's banging in the paint every possession, it's really not that bad. warriors are small and they tend to foul bigger teams a lot because they have to play with aggression to compensate for the lack of size. as you can see in the video, our beloved tjd doesn't have a chance of guarding jokic, he was outmatched strength wise and skill wise. if the nba is rigged they would be rigging it for steph, he's their second most popular player, stop with the conspiracy theories.

@BrendanRankin

5 ай бұрын

@@vince3139 I'm okay with the current on ball calls, except for a few finishes where he should be "protected" a bit more....bumping while the player is in the air should usually result in a foul call... The calls that Steph used to get was on all the off-ball grabbing and bumping. From late 2018 onwards, it seems that this is now allowed....as is hand-checking. It's a shame as I consider that to be the fugly part of the game. I'm all for trying to interrupt the flow of the offense, just do it fairly by working your ass off and playing better team defense...not clutching to the point of "cat fight" remnants on the arms and ripped jerseys!🙄

You are right about Embiid flopping "much more" - he's doing it ALL THE TIME. Let's look at this - Embiid has 12 FT attempts on avg... Giannis has 19... (fouls he's getting are just ridiculous). Jokic has 6. Kerr really picked a wrong guy and a wrong time to cry. I'm all for rules that allow more contact and more physical game. I'd love that. But, taking ONE GAME (first, maybe last) when Jokic actually had a "fair whistle" (based on current NBA rules and practice) - is just so strange and laughable. Here's the breakdown of your examples: play by play: 1 - clear elbow shove by the defender. 100% foul. 2 - looney does a "hip bump" at the time Jokic takes off. 100% foul. 3 - clear bump, no matter if a late call. 100% foul 4 - clear foul, Andrew is reaching and holding his arm. 100% foul. 5 - moving bump from cumminga. 100% foul. 6 - arm over the shoulder, pressing down. 100% foul. 7 - steph's push - not really a foul. Jokic exaggerated. 8 - looney holding. 100% foul. 9 - wiggins hitting the arm. 100% foul. Good video though. I agree with what you've said at the end.

@Stretch79

5 ай бұрын

I actually think Kerr picked the right guy.....because he doesn't do it all the time. Jokic's Christmas gift to us as basketball fans was bringing to light this issue that's been plaguing the league for years now

@sam2273923

5 ай бұрын

Nah you dumb, most of these are ticky tacky fouls. If that's how the refs are calling that's fine, but soft whistles need to go both ways.

@ThorGodofThunder420

5 ай бұрын

Whether he was actually fouled or not shouldn't be in question. He still flops and cries to the refs all the time. He sold calls in this game. There was numerous examples in this video alone where it's a no call in other games. Flying back 10 feet from Curry using his off arm to create space is flopping. It's a no call if the nuggets do it to the warriors. He doesn't get those calls all the time because officials allow some physical play when you're on a team they aren't trying to bury. You play the warriors, you get those calls. Then you can go and play "physical defense" on the other end and they don't blow the whistle consistently. I can just tell by the way you worded your comment that you're a nuggets fan or a Jokic fan, or just a warriors hater. You spelling kuminga wrong on purpose was the biggest tell. Yes, they're fouls. Refs just let a ton of contact go all the time because it's minor. If they wanted they could blow the whistle on every possession of the game. They could just take defense out completely. That's what they already do to the warriors. They can't defend the same way they're being defended. It's been like this since 2022 when they had to beat the other teams and the refs most nights on their way to a championship.

Curry's argument is that it's okay to call touch fouls but also call them on the other team as well. Basically, the refs were calling ticky-tacky fouls on Jokic but allowing the Nuggets to play hard aggressive defense on the Warriors. If the refs are going to give soft calls then call them on both teams.

@Bicklehoff794

5 ай бұрын

The Warriors are a small team and can’t match up with the Nuggets size-wise. So when you put a smaller guy on Jokic and Gordon the refs have to make a decision. Do you let a smaller guy foul the bigger guy because it has less impact, or do you call it like they are both 300 lbs. Sometimes it favors the smaller team and they get away with tons more, other times, like this game, it doesn’t. Kerr was positioning for the next game, he knows he’s outmatched down low vs. bigger teams and cannot win if the game is called this way.

@AnwarLL

5 ай бұрын

Warriors beat that same Nuggets team minus Murray (who is not big) 4-1 in the playoffs 2 years ago. Warriors were even smaller than they are now so miss us with that point.​@@Bicklehoff794

@marqicewalker1766

5 ай бұрын

Yep. They try to move the odds as much as possible. Watched this ja morant games and look at the calls🤦‍♂️ as soon as everyone starts agreeing we can get change until then we’ll get bs.

@RayofSunshine5519

5 ай бұрын

I’m sure the Warriors have never benefited from friendly refs before… like a million times. 🙄

@roozevelt21

5 ай бұрын

@@RayofSunshine5519I hate people like you. Try to discredit the warriors when they were running teams out of the gym and STILL being outshot at the free throw line. They've also turned the ball over more times than most other teams for the past decade. A lot of those turnovers were illegal screens but they still got 4 rings

the worst part is that they dont call the same fouls on both teams, that´s the problem, if they did it consistently for both teams we probably wouldn´t be having this discussion And it makes the game so boring to watch, always stopping

they killed the game man basketball is becoming hard to watch

Ok im gonna sum this debate up for people not quite understanding. Elite scorers, for the past three decades at least, not only try making buckets, but they also try to "draw a foul". This means quite simply: framing your defender to look as if he's committing a foul as you shoot the ball. One would assume that's a very cheezy and pathetic play style, and you're correct, but check this out... it's been not only allowed by refs and league administrators for decades, but also encouraged. Let me give an example. Commonly you will hear an announcer or talking head say something like this, "PLAYER is scoring more this season from the mid-range, but he's not getting to the free throw line on average with the league's top scorers". It is very much a stat in itself that portrays "a good player" or "an elite shooter" by how frequently they get the +1 by "drawing the foul". When you see scorers in the league high-fiving their teammates after a fouled shot that gets them an extra shot at the line, they're not celebrating the basket, they're celebrating the "flop," as some might call it, that the players view as a deserved extra point due to putting their defender in a vulnerable position which enabled them to frame a foul during their shot. The defender has no choice but to view the foul as a mistake he made while defending, such as falling for a pump fake and falling into the shooter. This is why players haven't spoken against the whole messed up system because it's viewed as a small game within the larger game that professionals consider challenging play - both for the defender and the shooter, considering that scoring a framed flop shot is actually pretty difficult, and because defenders wouldn't fall for being foul-framed if they practiced avoiding it. And so that's where today's league stands. MANY elite players of the past, including Jordan, Kobe, and Shaq participated in this type of game play. You can hear charles barkley and magic johnson complaining about it in The Last Dance documentary, specifically Jordan's ability to draw non-stop fouls. Watch when Jokic does it... He does it many ways, but as an easy example you'll see him around the free throw line facing the basket and he begins driving and bullying his defender towards the basket. He will chest bump his defender to push the contest closer and closer to the basket. His defender needs to chest bump in return, at the same time, or at least lean his body weight into Jokic to counter the drive. Here's where Jokic tricks the defender. On the last chest bump, Jokic instead "gathers the ball" to attempt a shot. His defender doesn't notice right away, and mistakingly chest bumps Jokic as Jokic is shooting the ball. Foul called. That's the crux of it, that elite scorers are very good at concealing their moves, and so if you want to defend them without causing a foul, you have to take a more cerebral approach that is less physical. Even if you stand still with arms in the air, Jokic will gather to shoot and bump into you as he shoots to "use you" for extra points. So as a defender, being very physically aggressive is a problem, and standing still doing absolutely nothing is also a problem. You've got to be somewhere in between. And if a defender practices enough, not only can he quit allowing himself to get framed for fouls, but he can fake out the shooter who's trying to fake him out. This game within the game has gone on for a very long time and when I first started watching basketball a lot, I didn't understand it either. BUT, now with Jokic appropriately being very good at it, it's become a problem. Wasn't a problem when Jordan, Kobe, Iverson, etc. did it, isn't a problem now when SGA, Tatum, Durant, Harden, Embiid and Butler do it, but it's a national crises that Jokic does it. 👏 Typical complete bullshit as usual. Im sure Jokic would be happy to quit doing it if the league banned the whole messed up system of it, but I don't think the league will ban it until it's more inconvenient for more elite players, like if Jokic gets better at it while they stay the same... LOOKING AT THIS VIDEO, our narrator is picking out plays where a foul is more warranted than other plays. That designation of a degree of fouling isn't significant beyond its ability to make it easier for a referee to see it. In some plays observed in this vid, it's shown that the defender barely bumped or barely touched Jokic during the shot. That degree of physicality only matters prior to Jokic's shot attempt, not during. Once Jokic "gathers" for his shot, any subsequent contact regardless of how hard, is considered a foul, EXCEPT for rare situations with very light chest to chest contact. With the defender not paying enough attention to Jokic's hands for identifying his "gather" to shoot, they'll foul him every time unless they defend in a way that doesn't make any contact even before the "gather." In every situation highlighted in this video, you can see exactly when Jokic gathers and how he does it in an especially deceptive way. He "catches" his defender not paying enough attention and frames the foul. I THINK it's a perfect example of what happens when a new rule is needed, but ignored for years. Framing your defender by shooting through them and intentionally making contact seems like it should be called an offensive foul if anything. I think it doesn't make a player more elite because it's not a basketball skill. Using your defender to intentionally make an interfered-with shot is not a basketball skill. But when the NBA ignores the shit for decades, it becomes a necessary skill that no one wants to have.

I think it's a dangerous game the NBA is playing. You will start seeing teams throwing in players to give some "YOU WANT TO SEE A FOUL I'LL GIVE YOU A FOUL" plays

@iambarryallen

5 ай бұрын

unlikely. mainstream and social media will be all over that, just look at draymond.

@Leonardo-Lenguaje

5 ай бұрын

Exactly--this isn't a new thing though. It's all about "getting your money's worth."

This was a Christmas day game... BETS ARE HIGH IN VEGAS.... THE NUGGETS HAD TO WIN SO THE PAY OUT WOULD BE HUGE...

This game was atrocious. Jokic isn't really a "flopper" but he saw early that the refs were going to give him everything and he just played it up. What makes the game almost unwatchable today though is the fact that on defense you apparently can't even stand your ground or put a body on a guy backing you down or running into you, but an offensive player is allowed to just walk into you on a dribble handoff. Honestly, watch Denver and how they run most of their half-court sets. Its a problem with every team in the league, but they are BY FAR the worst. An example of one of their bread and butter plays? Have the wing set a pin down screen, jokic moves to top of the key to receive a pass, then hands the ball off to the cutting guard and literally just rolls THROUGH both the guy who swapped onto him ands the guard's defender. This creates a cutting or popping wing with a mismatch, a moving genius in jokic towards the hoop, and a gap on the ball handling guard who can shoot or now pass to a rolling Jokic as the defender on the guard tries to recover from being moving screened for 6 feet. THEY RUN THIS ACTION DOZENS OF TIMES A GAME! IT IS TEXTBOOK ILLEGAL SCREENS! So, how is it that they can do that, but if you even nudge a guy in the back when he's under the basket it's a foul? If you are gonna let the guys be physical, cool - but you can't only call it one way! Someone below made a great comment too, the refs and media just DECIDE some teams are better at , so that means they are allowed to hack the hell out of people, but other teams can't even touch someone without a whistle. How is it that you can have Curry come around a legal screen with a guy's arm literally IN HIS JERSEY with no call, but that other teams can have players just run over guys on the way the the rim like its the NFL, yet if anyone touches them it's a foul? The game is unwatchable today. Honestly, I think Jokic is the best player in the world atm, he doesn't even need the help.. but it really diminishes his greatness when you see stuff like this :(

There were 2 or 3 times where Jokic shot free throws that weren’t even shooting fouls. He was facing away from the basket around the free throw line area and got fouled, threw the ball up in the air in like a semi-hook shot after the contact, and the officials put him on the free throw line. You could see Kerr shouting “He wasn’t even shooting!”

@domantisbinkis4738

5 ай бұрын

Yeah

The refs never give these calls to curry and klay

@silewis9396

5 ай бұрын

They don't play in the post like some of the bigs do they shoot outside shots nearly all day

@duaneglaze7229

5 ай бұрын

They get fouled more off the ball than anyone I've ever seen

@modoki666

5 ай бұрын

@@duaneglaze7229 Have you also seen all the illegal screens and moving screens they benefit for years for Curry and Klay

@kpkafle

5 ай бұрын

Steph is literally held off the ball while he is running around trying to get open. Look at his arms during games there are literal scratch marks.

@modoki666

5 ай бұрын

@@kpkafle So what's your point there.. Jokić gets even more scratches and marks on this arms.. And finally when he get calls like other players (Embiid Antetokounmpo Durant.. ) some salty cry babies are unhappy. He got only 18.. that's far from Antetokounmpo's record 32.. or Embiids 27 or Durant's 26

the league has done this for years. It is ok for the offense to throw their weight into you but you cannot touch them. That kills the defense. It also allows the referee to call a foul at any point for any player they choose.

we need ex players to be refs and league to gave defense some edge like they do for offense.What defenders do to Steph of the ball they grabing him not allowing him to get open ,he got scratches on his arms after every gaame and still he shoot 1-2 ft's per game

@tomsplitt4853

5 ай бұрын

It's a complete joke(r). Kerr is right on. Im sure he'll have his staff compile a low light reel of yesterday's bad calls for the NBA office.

@jazon8877

5 ай бұрын

We just need the rules not to be a disadvantage to the defense in my opinion

@jsim519

5 ай бұрын

Let’s stop offensive players from pushing off with their arms

@NPI-iz7bg

5 ай бұрын

let's stop grabbing players of the ball not letting them to get open.let's stop playing for freethrows but play pure basketball and if someone fouls you when shooting it's foul.Stop doing Harden @@jsim519 Who was fameous for pushing off with to separate.MJ and Kobe

@CleanMusicLover229

5 ай бұрын

Adam Silver doesn't want defense

It's not just about the flopping. It's about how these guys can't be physical at all on defense now. Jokic throws that elbow out on the spin move all the time and when guys try to react with that same amount of aggression, they get called for a foul.

@stevenkioa2411

5 ай бұрын

They need to be fined for flopping.

@davidwallon9397

5 ай бұрын

Isn't it worth discussing that the previous game he had 2 foul shots all night? He does get assaulted in the paint. Admit it!!! If you are willing to look at a couple highlights and make your assessment perhaps you should not comment. Just saying....

So, when old NBA heads talk about the game being weaker, this is what we're talking about. Today's fan says, "Today's players are faster, stronger, can shoot better, etc." But, my generation says, we had NBA players that were tougher mentally and played smarter.

Refs control the game, when a lead is too big, foul calls are made to slow down the game and give the losing team a chance to get back by controlling the tempo. Once the momentum shifts they know slow down the foul calls. Refs need to be held accountable but they’re not. Hire international refs, they don’t try to control the game they let the players dictate dominance.

Now I see where Draymond gets that anger from.

You could have shown dozens of touches by defenders IN THIS GAME that were not called as fouls, as reference. It seems that sometimes every touch of the opponent is called a foul, while in other occasions not so. It seems random. NBA refs are not good if this happens 20 times in one game. Either they are stupid or VERY stupid, or biased.

What! There are players been doing this shit for years yet now Jokic does it and it’s a problem? Talk to Embid, James, harden, loony, Kendrick Perkins, Green! Stop all of them or quit crying. Jokic is getting ejected for no reason. Where are the complaints? Quit it. It’s happening throughout the league.

@lestonclark2398

5 ай бұрын

And thats the problem it needs to stop why u think they losing in international play because most of the things they do aren't fouls... they get so accustomed to getting called for little contact it bites them in the ass in international play..

@Levi4084

5 ай бұрын

watch the video, or don’t comment

Although other's are following Lebron is the leader of this trend and got away with it the most. It's sad.

First tijmeJokic is on ft more than 15 time and immediatle conspiracy

Flopping is not the root cause of this problem as it is now when the offensive player initiates contact the defender isn't allowed to reciprocate with equal contact. Allowing the defender to reciprocate with equal contact would eliminate the incentive for the offensive player to flop.

thanks for doing this mate

First flop is immediate ejection. That would make them stop and encourage resilient play.

@rafaeltemplario

5 ай бұрын

Flopping should be a technical foul, so two flops would be an ejection. It seems more fair to me. In football a flop is yellow card, so it feels reasonable to me.

@JstBEasy1312

5 ай бұрын

That's too extreme because sometimes the refs call something a flop that isn't. Like last game against Portland Kuminga was called for flopping because he ran into a hard screen and fell down. Steph was called for a flop because his momentum made him hit the floor after a layup

@Jshun40

5 ай бұрын

LBJ will not be able to stay on Court?

Hot take--I think the NBA will cool off with all of the ticky-tacky fouls once they get over this new deal they're trying to close. I assume they want to minimize injury to major talent/assets until that happens. However, they really do need to find balance b/c they're genuinely damaging the product.

I think that these guys, especially Hardin are big and tough enough that butterfly touches become drama queen explosions and just look like stupid attention magnets. It used to be guys that couldn't score or defend fouled to compensate. Bill Laimbeer comes to mind. Perhaps teaching the refs to watch the jazz hands moment going on 5 seconds afterward with the chasing the ref with sad eyed indignation is another cue.

Exactly🙈I just hate when grown men flops every time a little contact happens🤯and in the playoffs where you don't get to the line you will lose like Harden, Embiid etc😂You have to be able to defend what's the point other wise? 🤔

This flopping has been going on for years and it is the very reason I stopped watching as well as a host of family and friends. I played bb in high school and was much smaller and I can’t think of a time when I got a simple bump and then fell over like a bth…. It’s gotten pathetic,and to think they get paid a lot to play like this. This type of soft playing has taken the honor and integrity out of the game- so Steve Kerr is absolutely right and more people should stop wasting their time watching this nonsense until they can restore the games long lost integrity.

Can't remember GS complained about the revs in the play-off series against the Nuggets two years ago. They beat Jokic up non-stop in every game. Greene hit Jokic's head two times on purpose and he wasn't ejected. Yeah, if you are winning than everything is fine.

It’s like the Warriors say. Nobody gonna feel sorry for them. But when it comes to these actual fouls half of them ain’t fouls.

Jokic gets the worst whistle in the League. The only reason he was getting an Embiid whistle tonight was because it was a highly-viewed, nationally televised game and they couldn't screw him over like they do almost every other night

I honestly didn't think any of them were that bad. Let them play. I don't want to go back to the 90s, but this ticky tacky stuff actually harms the game, interrupts the flow, and puts the defense way to much behind. People who really love the game, love the Gary Paytons, Dennis Johnsons, Btandin Podz's. I love good defense.

Steve Kerr knows what it was lik3 to play in the league when there was no flopping because they really knocked you on your backside.

@gediminaskucinskas6952

5 ай бұрын

He also knows how to look straight when green does some bullshit and then go I saw nothing, I heard nothing. Dont get me wrong todays leagues advantage to the offense is disgusting - just look at Embiid, but Kerr is one of the largest hypocrite in basketball I have ever seen.

trading illegal screens for no free throws, seems fair

Warriors never get their calls and Warriors always get called for some small ass fouls. It's happened for years we're just not sitting well enough to offset it right now.

Every time Joker flopped his arms they called foul in his favor 😂

@gregorywright2673

5 ай бұрын

Yes, and this is ridiculous!!!! He's 7" plus and at least 280lbs. Come on. Look how he uses his size to bully other players in the paint, but begs for calls when he misses the shot? Terrible!

@SaintJ92

5 ай бұрын

He moves his arms like this because he’s getting whacked. Which ya know…. Is a foul

This is the first game this season that Jokic has shot this many free throws. The shot that you said he definitely flopped while flailing his arms after the shot. He always does that in that situation. The refs need recognize that and just nit call it. They need to do that with all the players. Learn their tendencies and not call thise fouls when you see it.

Thanks for slowing these clips down and compiling them. Now that I'm seeing it slower, if you look at Jokic's shot form, he initiates the contact, then flails away as he shoots to sell the foul. That being said, he does get fouled, grabbed up, etc. at times, but I'd argue that as a defender, if I see a guy constantly flopping on me, I'd eventually start making sure I get my money's worth on those fouls and start actually hitting the guy, so flopping isn't helping anyone really. So in a sense, Jokic may potentially be bringing some of the scratches/cuts on himself since he's genuinely a frustrating guy to play against. The same thing happened with Harden--you can't have a guy that's MVP-caliber also playing cheap, b/c it breaks the game: 1. MVP caliber player likely to get a better whistle (though Jokic, being in a small market doesn't always get the greatest whistle) 2. MVP caliber player has more skills and more touches than the average rotation player, so it amplifies the issue 3. MVP caliber player is already capable of putting up good stats without the janky play I'd be curious to see the ppg numbers for players w/ fouls deducted. For me, that's a better indicator of skill combined with execution. For instance, do people remember the many games where Curry dropped prolific numbers on the court without going to the line more than a time or two? I think Curry's many years of fleecing the refs has made them eternally swallow their whistle for him now, b/c at times he gets whistles as bad as what rookie's would get. I remember one game recently (vs Boston) that was so bad that the refs accidentally got Steph up to 5 fouls with like 8 minutes still left in the game. So they said "oh shit... we can't give him one more" since like half of them were bad calls anyway--so they let Curry get away with like 2 ACTUAL fouls near the end of the game, both of which would have swayed the game and should have been called. The issues really are these: 1. The referees need to blow the whistle less. They need to figure out how to get there. I think the best way to do it would be to not call these dumb fouls where the player essentially just runs to a spot and just BARELY beats the defender to the spot and bumps into them. I personally consider this playing out of control, and ideally they're not supposed to call a foul on the defensive player when the offense isn't in control of the ball and it's a 50-50 scenario. They also need to call less of these fouls that happen when the offensive player and defensive player are essentially fighting to get the ball. At speed, how do you even tell who made an illegal move and when? It's insane to actually think you can make a consistent call at speed in those cases. 2. Players initiating contact should not be awarded fouls. It should just be a play-on. I.e., if I clearly lift my hands into the defense's outstretched hands, it should just be a play on. Why are we actively hindering the defense's ability to play defense when the game is already overly skewed towards offsense. If a player drives into another player's outstretched hands, that was their choice and they shouldn't be rewarded just b/c the player happened to initiate a shot this way. Joel Embid is a major offender here. 3. Why be so inconsistent with how fouls on screens are called? Every one is moving their screens all the time, but the league just doesn't know what to do with how to call them. Just make it clear that you need to (1) have your hands in and (2) both feet must be planted and (3) cannot move body to widen base. All of this "changing the angle of the screen" stuff is bs IMO, b/c it's usually just a literal moving screen. It honestly might be simpler if teams just left moving screens rock at this point b/c they're doing them all the time anyway... just find consistency and clarity with the rules. 4. Get "player profile" out of calls. This is how refs end up tacking fouls onto rookies that they woudln't have called on stars or how stars who they accidentally called too many fouls on end up getting to get away with murder in the 4th quarter. Or how star players genuinely get away with BS that should get called. 5. Refs need to stop trying to balance out bad calls--just get the calls right in the first place or don't make a call. As all fans who've watched a while know, once the refs made a clearly bad call on a star, they're going to give that one back on the other end ASAP to some irrelevant player. It's like clockwork. If you're not sure, just don't make the call... like damn. Refs need to have one challenge a game themselves to take back 1 or 2 bad calls, lol.

@hooptroopers

5 ай бұрын

Excellent points! Couldn't agree more. The NBA is becoming like NFL. There is a whistle and a premature game stop nearly every play, real action in the paint and at the rim has been exchanged for a free throw competition, players can damn near not make eye contact anymore before it will be a foul, then add the fact that the game has become a business like never before where players like Zion and Tatum seem fine with being the star of the night or Poole, seeming totally fine with one good play every other game even though his team loses all games, because there isn't this demonic desire to overcome struggles anymore when they are already spoiled with so much they never feel real hunger or desire but can be on a superstar max contract and just lean back and cash millions even when they don't play... and the result is it kills the momentum. There is also nearly no defense left because who wants to go and contest a dunk when they will most likely just send the offensive player to the line for 2-3 shots or an and 1 as well as get in foul trouble quickly, that on top of winding up on the wrong side of a poster. So we see players just running in front of an offender but all they will do is wave a hand out for a hypothetical chance at a steal before the enviable dunk. Defense isn't rewarded anymore. It's also sad to see players can't show raw emotions anymore, that be in offense or defense. So much rawness is killed, polished up and the result is so many basketball fans are complaining about the rules and officiating like never before. Something's got to give. There should be a follow option so I could keep track of your comments brother. You should try to send these points to evaluation at the highest legislative branch. These points are too good to drown in the KZread comments.

@Leonardo-Lenguaje

5 ай бұрын

@hooptroopers thanks a ton! Oh man, don't get me started on how they don't let guys show emotion... it literally just makes the product worse. The fans LOVE the taunts... leave em in the game and just punish harder if guys try to deebo someone like Draymond did. Physical retaliation at that level should probably be a minimum 20-game suspension without pay. But all the other stuff, the jeering, the taunting, the shit talk... most of the fans love this because it's memorable. It's so weird that they don't allow something so simple that would automatically make the league's ratings automatically better--like a ratings cheat code. Especially when they want this big streaming deal to hit.

@hooptroopers

4 ай бұрын

@@Leonardo-Lenguaje that's for sure! I don't get that either. It's an entertainment business OK but then why does everything have to seem so presentable and squeaky clean, right? Like that call where Lebron had his foot near the line the other day. If refs can't figure out whether or not his shoe may or may not have touched the outer perifery of the 3-point line by a nano millimeter in one still, it probably means it's a pretty clean three. Beyond the rivalry between those two, that's why I started acknowledging Dillon Brooks as one of my favourite players at the exact time most everybody got busy hating him. He's not afraid of facing adversity and judgement, ridicule. There's just something that tells us the league is going in a dead wrong direction at the moment and anyone who's going up against the stream is most likely not a dead fish.

3:30 push on the hip with his forearm. Foul 3:45 contact might be there. From this angle impossible to tell how Looney is using his left arm. That should be a no call 3:58 back push. Foul 4:05 Clearly foul. Hitting arms no ball. 4:11 Out of position while player is shooting. Foul 4:37 Good D from the guy. No foul 5:04 Jokic sold it, but the contact is there and push is there. Steph did extended his arm fully. That's offensive foul. 5:09 Never touched the ball. Hitting arms. Is the same as 4:11 player on shooting motion. Foul 5:15 Wiggin hit elbow. Foul Seem to me that the Refs did a pretty good with it missing just 2 calls. Also seems to me that Warriors got a problem with playing defense with their hands and not with their feets. They also got a issue with pushing. People often forget that a Foul doesn't mean that the defensive player hit their arms and hands. It means not pushing the lower body of the player and leaving enough room for landing. For what i look the Warirors just played terrible defense specially on the 3Q were they gave away 3 fouls in less than 2 minutes by reaching for steals. At lot of Small man on Big man defense from the warriors. Grabs,Pushes,Hugging screens,taller man putting the ball up and smaller man can't reach so they jump can't get it and end up hitting arms, stronger man get match up with a smaller man so they reach and grab arms expecting not to be call a foul

How can a player that is averaging 4.6 FT attempts a game in his career be a flopper? Joker has shot 18 FTs in game ONE time in his career. Embiid and Giannis have shot 18 FTs + in game 8 times just this season alone. Kerr really lost all credibility when he says this after facing the Joker

lol these Golden state fanboys saying Jokic is foul baiter... Jokic averages least amount of fts in the league among superstars, one game he gets 18 fts and these "fans" start crying. This is the first time this year Jokic got 15+ FTs in a game, Embiid had 15+fts 7 times, Giannis had it 5 times including the game he shot 32 fts, So stop crying

@zacks3288

5 ай бұрын

Facts bro preach!

@Levi4084

5 ай бұрын

You didn’t watch the video, lmao

@andrej0145

5 ай бұрын

@@Levi4084 i was talking about clowns in the comments such as yourself, the guy is biased but he is not crying as much

@Levi4084

5 ай бұрын

he aint even crying dawg@@andrej0145

I'm from the UK and got into the NBA few years back. The foul bating in the NBA is absolutely horrible to watch. I can't stand it and is turning me off the sport.

@iambarryallen

5 ай бұрын

have you not seen soccer/football, they invented it

Great video. Agree, almost all are dodgy :) Just my opinion: 1. Jackson, foul. Clear push 2. Foul. Clear palm on Jokic's body. 3. Doesn't look like a push, but hands positioned like it was. 4. Foul. Andrew. 5. Foul, moving. 6. ??

I am just curious why you didnt speak of embiid last 2 years flopping, he had shoot lots of free throws during season. Jokic didnt shoot almost any free throws. Now when they have same treatment about it, all of sudden is huge issue. Well, I guess that standards should be the same, not just about those 2 players but for all

@BigSaleGolem

5 ай бұрын

It is a miracle that Jokic throws this many throws

@Levi4084

5 ай бұрын

You should of watched the video

@squaresided

5 ай бұрын

Exactly

Almost all of those are fouls, you cant push a player that's in the act of shooting. It's how they call it around the league. They call it consistently for almost every player. Whether they should call it like this or not is a whole different story, but the only one I see that isn't a foul is the one from TJD. As a defender in the NBA, you have to take the contact with your chest and shoulders, you can't fight off the player with the ball with your arms. End of story.

these dudes are built like a tank but soft as a tissue paper

Kerr is one to talk, when his team benefitted from the lack of defense.

Of course some fouls were, are, not fouls. The problem from a Nuggets fan, and a former Shaq fan, is…because they are so big and dominant you could call a foul on every play. How can the Warriors match up against Jokic and AG without being physical?. Jokic gets no-calls all the time (and he complains about it). It’s rare the refs actually give him the benefit of the doubt with calls. This was an exception, check out his free throw attempts for the season vs how much he is working inside.

@azwanazmi1484

5 ай бұрын

Why does Curry not get calls when he is relatively small and has to deal with contact all the time? Why does he not get all the off ball contact called too. Consistency is all that we ask for.

@Bicklehoff794

5 ай бұрын

I haven't seen them play much this year, but he used to get calls in the past. But I think it depends on how the refs are calling that game. Either they play it straight up and just call what should be called, or they say "let's let them play tonight". I think it happens, and on those nights, outliers like Curry and Jokic get screwed. Just because Curry is smaller, doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the call. Just because Jokic is bigger, doesn't mean he doesn't (imagine what it takes to foul Jokic compared to Curry). Now...why the refs call the game a certain way is a mystery to me. Jokic never got games like this last one until recently, and the games were played exactly the same. @@azwanazmi1484

@azwanazmi1484

5 ай бұрын

@@Bicklehoff794 I agree, fouls should be consistently called the same regardless of the colour of the jersey or the name and number on it. I think the league has instructed refs to make more favourable calls, no calls against the Warriors because of their continual success. Just look at last years exit vs the Lakers. Look at the ft difference, when the calls came to shift momentum and who was placed in early foul trouble. This then allowed only one defense to play with any physicality.

Well there was contact on those, but a lot were initiated by jokic, i have no problem with those calls, the refs just doing their job and the are human so they won't be 💯. The problem is consistency like curry said!!! Imagine this game if loony, or curry, or kuminga, got those calls! Those warriors got to be the most under-offciated team in the league. When refs determine the outcome of a game like that it makes it hard to watch and brings the honesty of the league into question........ 18 foul shots for that???? Wow!!!! Is that my nba??

The inconsistency is what is appalling with NBA officiating....Joke usually get mauled with very few calls....last night he got more calls than usual and I thought I was watching Embid and not Joker for a while. The NBA needs to be consistent.

And then they call 2 FLOP fouls on Goldenstate the previous game.. Its getting laughable at this point.

The NBA has a war against the GSW. Most of the foul calls are not legitimate. When teams foul any warriors players are a no called. Also, in this game vs the nuggets there was a backcourt violation from Denver in which the refs were not going to called it until GSW players were begging the refs to make the right call....

It sure looked like Jokic was instructing the ref when to call a foul for him. That's as close to home court cheating as you can get.

@SaintJ92

5 ай бұрын

Did you really just bring cheating into this discussion. Good lord y’all are lost

@Vortex_Feedz

5 ай бұрын

@@SaintJ92the NBA is a billion dollar industry , you think they play by the rules💀 get real

This was not a typical game for Joker as far as foul calls are concerned. He only averages 6.3 attempts per game.

Nicole never gets a call. Yesterday was a surprise. The refs are ridiculous. Look at Nikolas arms, he has never got a call hardly.

It's tough to watch but the rules change in the playoffs so that's also weird.

@xMARIO16x

5 ай бұрын

Treat every game like a play off then so they aren’t surprised when the playoffs do come. Look how dumb team USA looks in fiba bc they don’t give as cheap as fouls there

@temporalsoliton

5 ай бұрын

@@xMARIO16x You miss the point. You cannot play defense like you do in the playoffs or you get a little fouls called on you. *Edit. My mistake. Thought you meant players should treat it the same.

@Rigger_Please

5 ай бұрын

@@temporalsoliton No, you missed his point. He is literally agreeing with you. He wants the refs to be consistent with their ruling- to have the same "let them play" attitude in the regular season as they do in the playoffs.

@temporalsoliton

5 ай бұрын

@@Rigger_Please gotcha. My mistake.

The NBA put in anti-flopping rules this year, and then give Nokic 18 free throws for flopping himself. I always read about idiots complaining that Steph flops, but he averages 4 free throws a game and is held the entire game. And at least 1 of Steph’s free throws is usually an illegal D free throw, and the other 3 are usually him being fouled on a 3. So while those not paying attention want to complain about Steph, he literally gets one shooting foul call per game, on average, while Jokic, LeBron and Embid, and Harden in the past, flop continuously and aren’t called for flopping, and worse , are rewarded excessively with free throws

@JJack-eb5mc

5 ай бұрын

You realize Steph averaged more free throws per game than Jokic before their game on Christmas right? Or are you talking just to talk

@JJack-eb5mc

5 ай бұрын

@@Mrabad88 you said incorrect information so confidently LMFAO. Jokic averages 4.5 free throws for his career. Google is free. And that’s for a guy always banging and bumping inside, unlike Steph. Obviously he should shoot more yet curry only averages .1 less. He’s 4.4 for his career, jokic is 4.5

Never take a foul call video from a fan of the opposite team seriously😂😂😂

Take off those golden glazed glasses and realize Warriors failed to adjust and kept using off arm to push Jokic in the waist when hes jumping. They had no one that could guard Jokic and tried to foul to gain the advantage and hope the refs didn't call it.

So many of these fouls are so minor not even close to real fouls Curry gets beat up every game held arms wrapped around his body pushed shoved no calls made it has become very obvious that the refs are controlling who wins and who loses by their calls

The main reasons I have stopped watching the NBA. It's hard to know what the heck a foul is anymore. The inconsistency by refs is just horrible but the amount of touch fouls are ridiculous and floppers have always been a disgrace.

@stifler5062

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂Lol, stop bullshhiting us, bro. so you come on platforms like this to vent and talk about shit that you don't watch 🤔

@markfain7128

5 ай бұрын

Yes actually. I still pay attention to the NBA and watch game highlights for my team, but I no longer watch the games or go to see them live. It's not a hard concept. If a company is doing something you don't agree with why support them by purchasing tickets or watching live games on TV? I don't enjoy the product the NBA has had for the past few years. Everybody does their own thing and if it doesn't make sense to you it doesn't have to. If something pops up on my feed that I am interested in I might watch it and maybe comment on it. If you would prefer you can send me your phone number, or better yet send everybody your number so they can check as well. That way we won't upset your specific ideology on YT comments.@@stifler5062

He looks like the twisted tea guy. "Smack me! Smack me!!"

Slowing the game down and getting fouls is the jokers tactic. He can’t run back for D. Every time he gets a foul favors nuggets.

I love how Kurr says how the reff's are taught saying in it's self what we all know that the NBA ...NFL if somewhat fixed by the commissioners and co of these leagues

Flopping left & right & straight to the back 😂

As a fan of basketball I was so bored. There were so many fouls the nuggets had it is insane. If you even breathe on an nba player it’s a foul.

The foul calling is awful this year. I have seen a lot of games where its just ridiculous and the game slows so much is almost unwatchable

What about start to call all 3 steps most of NBA players do? Shall the NBA remove that as well?

@petergianakopoulos4926

5 ай бұрын

Yes

@AUDIO2AUTO

5 ай бұрын

You get a gather step according to the rules.

Thank you for exposing these soft ass one-sided referees. Jokic and Leflop certainly get favoritism!! Steph gets no calls his way, how obvious. I already quit watching baseball and football, as soon as Curry retires, I also retire from basketball. Sports will not get any of my money!! Fu$k the Referees!!

@beli722

5 ай бұрын

What favoritism? Jokic shoots 6 freethrows a game, pple here wilding after one game...

@Levi4084

5 ай бұрын

@@beli7221 game yeah it matters when the warriors are trying to get back on track.

@beli722

5 ай бұрын

@@Mrabad88 now what? All i said was, the-jokic-gets-ref-benefits is bs, which still is, no matter how many fts curry gets

I dont like how good stationary defensive position the last 20 years has been wiped out by allowing offensive players to initiate contact and even plow thru people. Refs are ruining the game in other ways too.

Is he flopping? No. Is he embellishing a foul to make it look more obvious? Yes. There is a difference and people need to learn that. For example, even if all you did was whack his arm, it wouldn’t make your entire body contort like Jokic does. So he’s embellishing it. But the arm was still whacked which IS STILL A FOUL.

@howardhuang5371

5 ай бұрын

NBA does not have embellishing rule, so it is flopping. That may not be part of his normal game, but doing do in front of Xmas night repeatedly does not serve well to his greatness.

There are a lot of fouls on the lower body. Some shit calls. Jokic is fouled a lot every game. Look at his scars on the arms. Most of them non calls. So take that. He should go to the line 8-9 times a game, but he doesn't. 18 free throws is a bit much.

I take away from any player that average double digits in FTa we know that where half of the points come from and to average double digits makes me believe either u make sure or the refs do or maybe both 🤷🏿‍♂️ijs I been watching basketball can somebody plz tell me how u defend without fouling with the way refs are told to call the game

Okay now someone make a compilation of Warriors' illegal screens and missed calls in the playoffs. My favorite is that no-call out of bounds on KD just so refs can beat the Rockets cause the NBA wanted a Lebron vs Warriors finals. Old Warriors now realizing they dont get the superstar calls anymore, reality bites. Now they feel how the other side character teams feel.lmao

Consistency is needed, no more home cooking or waiting on a shot to fall before calling or not calling a foul.

Ok, as a warriors fan, that "evidence" isn't it boss. 😂😂😂 Refs were unfair, I quit watching at some point in the 4th we were a point up or so, but there were some nonsensical calls and I had had it. Most of the fouls you showed were fouls. The Wiggins one wasn't. But that happens too. The foul on Steph shoving Jokic is flopping. But Steph does have his hand extended... So yeah, deal with it. My issue is, for all the fouls that get awarded to Jokic, curry doesn't get those same calls. Practically, if Jokic goes to the hoop and you touch him, it's an automatic foul. Curry goes to the hoop, gets banged and scratched. Crickets. Or worse a flopping for safely falling with a roll. That's the issue consistency. If you call something one way, call it that same way for the other side.

@derionone

5 ай бұрын

The weird thing is that Joker never gets these fouls or rarely ... for whatever reason reffs decided to cal every foul on joker yesterday wich as a nuggets fan was really weird to see ... basically how they treated curry this game is how reffs usually treat Joker

@DiabloDude

5 ай бұрын

most objective warriors fan 👍

@reignmans

5 ай бұрын

why are you taking that game as the average Jokic game? he doesn't get that treatment... if he was he wouldnt average 6 free throws per game... nor 4.5 free throws for his career. he's only shot 10+ free throws 6 times this season (6th being against the warriors) and 18 free throws is his career high actually lmfao. you know how many times he shot 5 free throws or less this season? 17. yup... seventeen. and he is generally getting beaten up pretty hard every game, goes in to start the game all white and ish, leaves red around the nape , shoulders and arms, sprinkled with lots of scratches. and yeah steph averages 0.4 free throws less than Jokic.

@holymsophy

5 ай бұрын

@@reignmans I'm sorry, I don't have the time to watch every Jokic game. So I wouldn't know. I do believe I prefaced my statement by I'm a warriors fan. I'm talking about this game. I didn't say every game, did I?

@christophertarr9005

5 ай бұрын

Every time curry shoots the ball, he intentionally falls down. That’s why they do not give him calls. He’s the flopper. Jokic is a flailer, an exentuater - throws his arms up. But, really, he just started doing that yesterday… he’s finally doing what the rest of the league does. Previously, he was only a complainer-didn’t work.

I agree that enough free throw calls were bs this game. Though you have to admit Denver got some horrible calls against them this season leading up to this game. Can we please get some consistency from those refs? And don't even get me started on Embiid And Giannis getting to the line.🙄

@VanPham-so3pv

5 ай бұрын

Just a game before … Jokic was awarded just a single shooting foul for the entire game! Speaking about fairness and refereeing consistency

@dbradandthem2727

5 ай бұрын

If Embiid & Giannis go to foul line 11 tines... Trust they are fouled at least 8 or o times legit...

@gustavgans403

5 ай бұрын

@@VanPham-so3pv thats what I was trying to say! I can See why people didn't like this particular game (although by NBA standards the fts for joker were mostly okay to call). But calling every possible foul this game and throw jokic out because he said one bad word is just weired.

@gustavgans403

5 ай бұрын

@@dbradandthem2727 I won't argue with that. I just want consistency. Maybe I am too casual but the calls in general just feel a little too inconsistent from game to game.

7:03 buahaha flooper cries that he has been flooped 🤣🤣🤣

Joker is so big, he should never be fouled! Curry gets way more contact and not a whistle

It’s crazy they been calling flopping for everything…but this man flailed flopped and every other adjective & was rewarded with FT’s….

The first 2 were flops. Please don't let Steph push me. You see the damage he can do to Jokic. What would happen to me? Aren't they supposed to call a technical on flops? Maybe the refs just need to enforce that.

@zrikizrikic9126

5 ай бұрын

Dude every time when player Is in air and bumped or pushed Is foul..and steph did Step into Jokić which Is foul by rules..

If these were fouls back when Shaq was playing, he would average 30 freethrows per game

@DanijelRakic-pd8hs

5 ай бұрын

50!

So much for the flopping foul rule added 😂 refs couldn't help it