4th place would have 996p

@codebrown744

25 күн бұрын

I would love those changes but they are what they are.

@cjwhitmore1881

25 күн бұрын

I would love to see the televote weighted more heavily. But, given who came in 2nd place in the televote with a sudden 323 points (just less than Croatia's 337), it's a stark reminder of why we brought the juries back.

@k.r.i.s.t.a.q.n.u.s.h.i.

25 күн бұрын

You mean 3x more than that!!!

@BlackScorpio

25 күн бұрын

What if the jurees could be 75% and televote 25%.. quality would win.

@BlackScorpio

25 күн бұрын

​​@@cjwhitmore1881thanks god🙏 that will not happen.. as you know, televote recognises commercial songs and not quality songs.

Baby Lasagna getting over 1000 points is a scenario I would have definitely loved to see

@AlessandroLanna-yj5vg

14 күн бұрын

Max points that someone can get is 444

@eeee8489

11 күн бұрын

​@@AlessandroLanna-yj5vg i doubt that

@joel1400

9 күн бұрын

@@eeee8489 u can't really doubt that tho, it's math. 12 times 37 is 444...

This ESC season was just like a fever dream

@ANGELIC_DIVA_

25 күн бұрын

More like a nightmare

@jason256-8

25 күн бұрын

@@ANGELIC_DIVA_No… more like a fever dream at the start, a bumpy train ride at the middle and a NIGHTMARE at the end.

@jason256-8

25 күн бұрын

It would’ve been a consistent fever dream for the entirety of the show if Netherlands continued competing in the grand final and if Croatia wins at the end of the final.

No matter what kind of voting you propose. Bambie Thug is always 6th😂

@dalmatiandream4452

8 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

The fact that Slimane did better in the televote

@felixsteinauer

25 күн бұрын

well his vocals cracked in the jury show

@szandorthe13th

25 күн бұрын

i also feel like he gained some extra support after it became known that he had stopped his prior rehearsal to hold a speech instead

@gabrielaanampaguzman328

25 күн бұрын

His voice craked during jury show 😢

Do a 60/40 or a 66,6/33,3! I think it’s more of a realistic thing to be done from EBU.

@ESCGiorgio

26 күн бұрын

I wanted to do a 60/40 but I don’t think the results would change that much ngl like 3-4 countries would change spots like Lithuania Greece would prob be higher the rest lowkey the same. And the winner probably the same

@-eesc

26 күн бұрын

bro.. the ebu is not gonna change a working format what are you on about

@SashaWagner

25 күн бұрын

​@@ESCGiorgioI did the 40/60 last night and BL would have won

@Meek42069

25 күн бұрын

TBH its actually a bit more than 50/50 currently because of the introduction of letting Rest Of The World vote so televoters give 58 more points than the jury and i see the current system to be fair because 1. Ukraine 2022 and 2. If it’s a tie the one who got the most points from the televoters wins

The jury robbed Silvester and Marina

@szandorthe13th

26 күн бұрын

Silvester deserved so much more than 14th

@zebras54

26 күн бұрын

@@szandorthe13th agree. We need to support his music now to show him love.

@DramaQueenMalena

26 күн бұрын

Switzerland's jury gave 12 points to Greece, 8 to Croatia. The Swiss public gave 4 to Greece and 10 to Croatia. Croatia gave 0 jury points to Switzerland.

@joybunny20

26 күн бұрын

Exactly what I thought! Silvester deserved top 13 in juries, the song is so good!

@sebastianniittyvuopio5017

26 күн бұрын

Really? Where at?😮

I am Croatian, but my dissapointment with our pride and joy Baby Lasagna😻 not winning is by far outshined by my relief . We went through 48 h of hell, I hope it never happens again, but that’s on the EBU to ensure. Congrast to overall winner Nemo🇨🇭 and public winner Baby Lasagna🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🫶😻

Where’s Eden and Joost?

@tasthar3505

14 күн бұрын

Eden is 4th, Joost was disqualified and didn't compete in the final

Let's learn places 1 - first 2 - second 3 - third 4- *fourth*

that would've been better to be honest 💀

That's what get when you let it become a 100% televote semi. The jury will of course supports few jury friendly songs.

@GERMANYkev

25 күн бұрын

Naaah. I cant see a NQ being jury bait. Specially with Poland, Belgium, Iceland and San Marino around there. Televoting also supported Latvia and Portugal. There are problems with juries, but this is not one of them and I like we avoid more "Sorry, 0 points from the public" this way.

@RaffGoodman

25 күн бұрын

Surprisingly, this year televoting in semi finals was really loyal to jury oriented songs (like Latvia, Serbia and Portugal)

@yuijo2772

15 күн бұрын

@@RaffGoodman I don't necessarily agree because semi one was weak so obviously Serbia had to make it ( that is why they finished 10th), but in semi 2 there were a lot of jury oriented songs that got left behind( Czechia and Denmark would have qualified if the juries were able to vote).

@RaffGoodman

14 күн бұрын

@@yuijo2772 there was no way for Czechia to receive many jury votes with such weak vocals. Denmark also didn't perform well, but yeah, jury could have helped her. So I actually don't think jury would have changed results much.

@yuijo2772

13 күн бұрын

@@RaffGoodman I think they would have changed. I actually really like Serbia's entry this year, compared to last year's one this definitely deserved to qualify. But juries tend to be harsh on Serbia, and preforming on second spot wouldn't have helped her. Not to forget that juries usually go for Australia, whenever they can ahhaah

75/25 is what we use in Finland (UMK) and thats how Win95 won. (and after that quite a lot discussion bout the system)

@yuijo2772

15 күн бұрын

the system failed, that is why Finland lost a great opportunity to finish top 10.

@balticthegrapher

10 күн бұрын

@@yuijo2772 with paskana? i think there were a lot of better songs imo, maybe would've finished slightly better than no rules at like 15th

@12PointsGoTO

8 күн бұрын

@@yuijo2772No top 10 finish for the Finish

Ideal results!

You missed the fourth place. After 5th place is 3rd place.

@babygrogu845

25 күн бұрын

No, he didn’t miss anything

@nmvs1981

25 күн бұрын

You want the 4th placing? Ask Benjamin Netanyahu to show it to you :)

@shroom736

25 күн бұрын

@@babygrogu845count to five

@piuvpiuv

25 күн бұрын

How can he show a country that doesn't exists

@shroom736

25 күн бұрын

@@piuvpiuv but it is confirmed to be one, why deny it?

Didn't you forget something?

@HarvesterOfSorrow007

24 күн бұрын

Nope

@omegothic

21 күн бұрын

the netherlands

@ivandebekker3468

19 күн бұрын

nothing of importance was forgotten 😌

@Tylantia

19 күн бұрын

Many people doing these vids are doing it on purpose, it's quite lame.

@kharma101

19 күн бұрын

They continue to bully Eden.

Shows that you're mad about the score Eden got

@HardCR0W

25 күн бұрын

Butthurted tried to change the reality to his fitting :D

@user-sg4ov7ng4h

24 күн бұрын

me when i don't look up the stats and just yap about things superficially

Wait... who was 4th?

@meitaslonimski6807

13 күн бұрын

Eden ❤

Did I miss something here?

@DaniD77

25 күн бұрын

Yes. the best song!! this retard censored it.

Too much of a child to include all contestants?

@nmvs1981

25 күн бұрын

Too much of a money-lover to not give a shit about children being killed?

everyone is forgetting about how eurovision started.... just jury votes

@theworldofbms7923

25 күн бұрын

public won in 2021, 2022?

@maximnable605

21 күн бұрын

They meant back in 1956

@rxptar

18 күн бұрын

yes and jury votes first came when? 2014? 2015 something like that. A 50/50 split is the most fair thing we have gotten when we think that Eurovision was for the majority of time only Jury votes.

@saturafael3710

14 күн бұрын

​@@rxptar 1956

You don't know how to count? After the 5th place comes the 4th place

@nmvs1981

25 күн бұрын

You don't know how to lie? You have been good at it. Apparently Palestine children do not exist in your worldwiew.

@meytaltrabulsi

25 күн бұрын

@@nmvs1981 fake news

Well as french I'm glad we don't have to switch our 4th place in real life with... you know 😅

Math isn't mathing

@ESCGiorgio

25 күн бұрын

Why?

@mitchibeast

24 күн бұрын

which formula did you use to get the numbers, cuz my calculator can't by any means known man (myself) get to them. Might be a skill issue on my side tho, dunno.

@thombogd1022

9 күн бұрын

Math is really not mathing here

@thombogd1022

9 күн бұрын

I just recalculated Nemo's points. I don't know what the plan here was but did you multiply his televoting points by exactly 2,92?? Why?

@ESCGiorgio

9 күн бұрын

@@thombogd1022 no 1/4 is the jury voting the total is 37x58, 2,146 so the 3/4 of tele is 37x58x3+58= 6,496. Then u calculate the tele percentage it’s 365 to 2,200 (or smth I don’t remember 38x58) and the percentage is like 10.5%. 10.5% of 6496 is 666 so 1031 overall. In the video it’s less cause I didn’t use 38x58 but 37x58 cause I forgot rest of the world as tele but it wouldn’t change anything just the scores

In my opinion the 75% televote votes and 25% jury votes would be the ideal system for the semi-finals

Gratuliere Nämo❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

WE ALL know who go 2, the judges were silenced, NOT the people the light against the darkness

Please keep making list videos of 2024 or else I die of PED😭

@ESCGiorgio

26 күн бұрын

I will try😭❤️

@steverossi7335

25 күн бұрын

Ahahahah true

@steverossi7335

25 күн бұрын

​@@ESCGiorgioyeah the most disparate video pls

@alexbalderas

25 күн бұрын

Bye i dont know what to do, i keep enter to escworld, but theres nothing to do, esc is over

These results would fix everything

Literally most people barely moved, people are just projecting that Netherlands and Croatia didnt win. Put that blame on the EBU

@adrial1997

24 күн бұрын

So true thank you!!! 😂😂

Honestly, I really think the Jury shouldn't have so much power over the contest. They should only be allowed to give out 8 or 10 as a minimum and not 12.

Eden is the best after Croatian!

@nmvs1981

25 күн бұрын

Says who? The money or Hitler in his graveyard?

@jt19

25 күн бұрын

@@nmvs1981 I say and millions of eurovision fans

@piuvpiuv

25 күн бұрын

​@@jt19 Everyone booed her?

@gege0480

24 күн бұрын

@@piuvpiuvso what? She became second in televoting.

Thank you so much for opening a discussion about what should be done! I feel like many esc account are beeing quiet because they want to secure their ability to get in the eurovision press room also next year. And so they are afraid to speak up! We as a community need to demand change. Otherwise this will happen again.

@fabiumtaurinorum5573

21 күн бұрын

I like his song and I hate to keep say this, but the change is that Baby Lasagna should have been disqualified for plagiarizing two artists in one song, perhaps the jury decided to not vote for him knowing the allegiances of plagiarism. But even without plagiarizing anyone, the song and performance of Nemo was among every other song and artist. Thankfully most of the jury made justice because Rim Tim Tagi Dim should have never get through the semifinals, but it was the public's choice and they broke the rules for maintain your interest on the ESC.

@yuijo2772

15 күн бұрын

The only thing that needs to be changed is Corruption in televote, EBU should investigate it. If it wasn't for that then Baby Lasagna would have definitely won.

@GoranAbraxas

10 күн бұрын

@@fabiumtaurinorum5573 Nonsense.

@sucha0000

3 күн бұрын

​@@fabiumtaurinorum5573wow you're so full of sh*t

Thank god it was 50/50 then

Why are people complaining? The juries have always been present and the winner has been the jury winner just twice in the past few years, with kalush and maneskin being the televote winners. Juries make the contest less predictable and give chance to different songs to shine more. Without the juries, Portugal would never have the chance to get top 10.

@jimstoilov

26 күн бұрын

It doesn't mean they decide fair

@visokilogrami

26 күн бұрын

did the swiss guy rly deserve 30 sets of 12 pts 💀💀 cmon he came 5th with the televoting for gods sake

@waiting4smth

26 күн бұрын

Cause Portugal is piece of sh*t

@ESCGabs

26 күн бұрын

@@visokilogrami yes, they deserved it cause they did a breathtaking performance, they have unreal vocals and they are the cutest person ever. Juries give credit to art more than fun and I think it’s more than fair.

@ESCGabs

26 күн бұрын

@@visokilogrami and by the way, Croatia ended up 3rd with the juries so I don’t know what you’re complaining about.

I hope there will some changes. Televoting is a huge amount of money in the game. If the audience realizes that their vote, year after year, doesn't matter, they will become discouraged and they will stop participating in it. And the Eurovision must be profitable, on various aspects. We need to limit the possibility of a situation in which the public's voice cannot change anything.

@MerryMoss

21 күн бұрын

Exactly... I voted 20 times this year and spend money on that.... it ended up not making any difference. That really feels like watching your money go up in smoke. Definitely don't intent to vote again unless they change the system and televotes get more weight

You missed no4, just wanted to let you know😂

@benzech6308

20 күн бұрын

Shh don't make the antisemitic idiots face reality they don't tend to like it

That is a real outcome.

50/50 is better

i like this point system more. The jury is ridiculous.

Why don't they award points for placing rather than combined/ jury televote number. 12 points for 1st, 10 points for 2nd, 8 points for 3rd, 7 points for 4th, 6 points for 5th, 5 points for 4th and so on. Switzerland came 1st with the jury, and 5th in the televote, Croatia 1st in the televote and 3rd with the jury. Switzerland 17 Croatia 20

Better results

Yessss Silverster deserved better

this is the true restult. (imo)

El problema no es 50-50, el problema es que el jurado solo sabe apreciar algunos estilos musicales y por eso siempre los puntua alto, menospreciando a los otros generos musicales

@nmvs1981

25 күн бұрын

Zorra es un genero musical?

@RaffGoodman

25 күн бұрын

​@@nmvs1981Zorra is a religion 🙏

that is better 70 vote 25 jury

How does this system work? It’s a bit confusing

Oh, and she who shall not be named ends 4th here?

@Balnazzardi

25 күн бұрын

Yeap. I hope by next year the whole situation in Gaza has come to its end, cause if it hasnt...oh boy its only gonna get lot worse in Eurovision 2025

2:52 I think you messed up the numbers...

The juries this year were among the most lopsided in history, that's all. If we go by the years of the current system, normalize by amount of countries we will get the following for the highest jury score and distance to the second place among the juries: 2016- 281, 95 difference. 2017- 335, 91. 2018- 232, 15. 2019- 222, 6. 2021- 253, 18. 2022- 261, 14. 2023- 340, 163!. 2024- 365!, 147. Note that 2017 was both a jury and televote winner by huge margin. In the recent two years the juries selected the winner almost entirely.

Better voting results than what was showcased

Even more perfect:90% televoters 10% jury votes

So UK, Luxembourg, Germany, Portugal and Switzerland would fall into depression. I don't want that. - Croat

im confused how this math is working

Good ending

How did you fix this?

“Hmmm… that’s a wonderful idea!” - Flowey Now that’s what I call the good ending!

Dont forget Jury saved the show to not have political winner

that video is the perfect example why we shouldnt do that

That's not how math works.

@ESCGiorgio

25 күн бұрын

Uhm then what is wrong about it ?

@lilypad7851

24 күн бұрын

@@ESCGiorgio While the proportions are correct (75/25), the result isn't normalized the same way they are with the 50/50 system, and that's why we get these huge amount of points. Instead of multiplying the public votes by 3, you should've multiplied it by 1.5 and the jury points by 0.5 so that we could also compare the results with the past editions. That way, Croatia wins with 667.5 points. I know, the .5 looks ugly, but at least we can now compare the result with previous results, like Salvador Sobral's 758 points.

@ESCGiorgio

24 күн бұрын

@@lilypad7851 aaaa yeah maybe it would look better in the eye

I would not be angry about this but it did make me realize something. Nemo was my favorite act this year and Baby Lasagna was my second. I had thrown more votes towards Baby Lasagna because I wanted them to win, and it was so jarring when my actual favorite won (they almost never do, and yes I still voted for Nemo). Now seeing who I tried to let win at the top makes me sad that my favorite lost XD maybe I would have been sad either way but idk because this is after the contest and I have gotten much happier that FINALLY my favorite song took home the trophy

If there was no block voting then we could have 100% televote, stop block voting & then we maybe could have it in the future

Eurovision 2024 results in Vidbir system?

This scores woild be worse. Fortunately jury points affecting half of the scores.

I always hated the jury to have so much to say compared to the audience vote.

@nmvs1981

25 күн бұрын

So you want more trash to win this for your own joy and entertainment? You forget that by voting you are helping the EBU to make more shit than what they have done so far.

A year to never forget I guess.... I uploaded my top with comments as well!

you forgot eden

@ESCGiorgio

4 күн бұрын

Did I 💋

Better Televore is 80%

Better ngl

The 50/50 split is more than fair, you still got the televote only semis and that’s itself disastrous for actual “quality songs”.

greece was below average

@Aurora-421

25 күн бұрын

Greece and Armenia were the bundle of joy from all this circus, Deserved higher!

@sasharogers7066

13 күн бұрын

My favourite entry

How ironic that in a video that emphasizes the televote you chose to ignore the song that the audience loved so much. More of the lame, childish bullying. 😂

@noramadaras2594

9 күн бұрын

Maybe y’all should stream it then if you loved it so much, oh wait it’s flopping in comparison to songs that got 10th-15th lmao

@Lilo-of-Rivia

9 күн бұрын

@@noramadaras2594 You can't really use streaming numbers to compare anything, neither this year nor the one before

@noramadaras2594

8 күн бұрын

@@Lilo-of-Rivia uh yes you can, it’s been used as a stat consistently since Spotify came out, this is just you coping

Look better

Где Ізраїль ??

HMM NO THANK YOU

Abolish juries. Thank you

@fabiogallotta7155

25 күн бұрын

Abolish televote!

@ff7_fan298

25 күн бұрын

No, then it just becomes a high school popularity contest with the bigger populations always winning. Totally unfair

@thebestame3582

25 күн бұрын

Yeaahhh how the vote turned out this year the televote has no room to talk

@sandroribeiro7644

25 күн бұрын

No, juries are guilty 2 years in a row of choosing the winner and with a big gap from 1st to 2nd jury place. But televote giving points to countries instead of songs is even worse.

@krunoslavkovacec1842

25 күн бұрын

@@ff7_fan298 You can't vote for ypur own country

Maybe televote-only would be a good idea if they also find a way to prevent countries from cheating. *cough* Azerbaijan 2011 *cough* you-know-who 2024 *cough*

AUSTRIA ROBBEEEEED😭😭😭😭

doesn't change much. People love to complain. Some years, the jury winner is the best song and other years, it's the televote. Jury favourites were very good this year (admittedly not last year though) and Croatia did very well with jury. Televoting was hijacked by politics this year. On a personal level, there's about ten songs I would have been happy winning this year, but ultimately Switzerland resonated with me the best. To combine pop, opera and rap within seconds, while balancing on a spinning beyblade with no help, knowing full well that falling would derail the whole performance, was glorious. The lyrics were affecting and inspiring.

No to 75/25. That is a complete bullshit.

Giorgio voglio ringraziarti per il grande lavoro che hai fatto in questi mesi con l'Eurovision ti ho seguito sempre con interesse❤❤❤❤❤

Don't mke these videos they only spark anger in the fans for some reason

I’m just wondering, did you multiply their original televote scores by 3?

@ESCGiorgio

26 күн бұрын

Yes

@cromolandia6696

25 күн бұрын

​@@ESCGiorgiobut Austria received 5 points from public and you put 23

how come so many people watch eurovision yet theres only 200-300 ish votes

@amazingbluelobster

25 күн бұрын

POINTS, not votes. Votes are converted into points. Each country gives 12,10,8-1 points to the top 10 most voted countries. 1st place gets 12, 2nd place gets 10, 3rd place gets 8 etc.

A nightmare

I prefer these results over the actual ones

Just bend the rules until Croatia wouls have won 😂

Croatia, Austria, Lithuania and Spain were robbed :(

@PincoPallino-zh8wm

26 күн бұрын

You got robbed when you went to school, because you learned nothing!

@MaskedSinger612

25 күн бұрын

Spain and Lithuania are not even little robbed...

@theworldofbms7923

25 күн бұрын

Kaleen didn't sing well tbh...

If you already make such vids, you should make them reasonable and not produce antisemitism

@ESCGiorgio

9 күн бұрын

🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

I love this much than the official one

SO MUCH BETTER

Georgia Lithuania and greece great songs but bad results

Bambie thug is always the 6th 🤣 So symbolic

@dalmatiandream4452

8 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Let's keep the voting system like it is please

@dalmatiandream4452

8 күн бұрын

so, what is THE POINT to vote?

Croatia should send Baby Lasagna back to Eurovision for next year. I wonder how the votes would have been allocated if the Netherlands wasn't disqualified.

@MerryMoss

21 күн бұрын

Personally, I hope he is done with this shit show 😅 I'll just follow him in his musical journey and support him there, I'm pretty much done with eurovision with all the drama and people who are spending money to vote & it doesn't even do anything

Also it would be interesting to know the results using old voting system (before 2016)

@ESCGiorgio

25 күн бұрын

Oh YESSS I d love to do that video

This is so unnecessary dishonest and stupid lol

Scusate, ma che conti ha fatto per arrivare a questi risultati? Per esempio Angelina ha ottenuto 104 punti dal televoto e 164 dalla giuria. Nel sistema proposto ha sempre 164 dalla giuria, ma i punti del televoto diventano 303. Non capisco il conto, ha moltiplicato i punti del televoto per 2,91. Mentre sarebbe stato corretto moltiplicarli per 3, per mantenere la proporzione 3:1=75:25. Anche se, a mio avviso, sarebbe stato ancora meglio dimezzare i voti della giuria, onde evitare punteggi finali monstre Dove sbaglio? Che conto viene fatto per ottenere il moltiplicatore x2,91 ?

portugal is to high such a bad song. germany was to low for me. croatia best

Although juries condemned Greece i am happy that because of the juries Nemo won.