Eurovision 2019 voting: North Macedonia wins jury vote after EBU corrects results error
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We react to the revised results of Eurovision 2019, which show North Macedonia's Tamara Todevska won the jury vote. We also explain the Belarus aggregated jury vote disaster. The EBU's Corrected Eurovision 2019 Grand Final Results are...
1. Netherlands (498 points) / +6 points
2. Italy (472 points) / +7 points
3. Russia (370 points) / +1 point
4. Switzerland (364 points) / +4 points
5. Sweden (334 points) / +2 points / +1 place
6. Norway (331 points) / -7 points / -1 place
7. North Macedonia (305 points) / +10 points / +1 place
8. Azerbaijan (302 points) / + 5 points / -1 place
9. Australia (284 points) / -1 point
10. Iceland (232 points) / - 2 points
11. Czech Republic (157 points)
12. Denmark (120 points)
13. Cyprus (109 points) / + 8 points / +2 places
14. Malta (107 points) / + 12 points /+2 places
15. Slovenia (105 points) / -2 places
16. France (105 points) / -2 places
17. Albania (90 points) / +1 place
18. Serbia (89 points) / -3 points / -1 place
19. San Marino (77 points) / - 4 points / +1 place
20. Estonia (76 points) / -10 points / -1 place
21. Greece (74 points) / +3 points
22. Spain (54 points) / -6 points
23. Israel (35 points) / - 12 points
24. Belarus (31 points) / +1 place
25. Germany (24 points) / -8 points / -1 place
26. United Kingdom (11 points) / -5 points
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When Zena sang "Let's break the rules", I think the Belarussian jury took that a biiiiit too seriously!
@Ecd4life23
5 жыл бұрын
Jack Rippon 😂😂😂
@tom_4546
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah and they sang "EBU gonna like it, EBU gonna like it"...
@impossiblesoul
5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@wojciechduda5372
5 жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@JorgeGarza-lq8kf
5 жыл бұрын
JAJAJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yess Zena
This didn't change: Norway won the televoting.
@Wiwibloggs
5 жыл бұрын
Buddhi Dev Great point and good reminder.
@buddhidev7877
5 жыл бұрын
@Tim Blanks yes, of course :)
Can't the EBU go 5 seconds without humiliating themselves?
@angelika1g6a
5 жыл бұрын
Hatari 🖤
@PunkRockPierce
5 жыл бұрын
@@angelika1g6a 🖤
@SaraMenashe
5 жыл бұрын
Just correcting: Can't EBU go 5 seconds without humiliating themselves?
@PunkRockPierce
5 жыл бұрын
@@SaraMenashe I didn't even notice that 😂
@elizasopubekova
5 жыл бұрын
@@angelika1g6a Hatari 🖤😂
Let's not forget the EBU only came clean because someone called them out on twitter!!!!
@mpofc
5 жыл бұрын
yeah and because of that tweet a swedish newspaper called them out too, so obviously they had to answer xD
@Fatima502
4 жыл бұрын
Yes give @euro_bruno a VIP gold ticket for 2020
@petarristovski8530
2 жыл бұрын
That ture that means if some from other conutry they will corret on the spot but when it comes to Macedonia it will not come that's why
Sweden: wins jury votes North Macedonia: hold my microphone.
@ivanastefanovska3007
5 жыл бұрын
North Macedonia wins the jury votes because she was the best !
@maraj8215
5 жыл бұрын
Pathetic. And I'm not a fan of John's song. But he doesn't deserve this... everyone knows he was a potential juries' winner and he won. And now this???? smh...
@DP-rb7mf
5 жыл бұрын
Bela Vista SlavoMacedonia maybe...
@radjo1386
5 жыл бұрын
@@DP-rb7mf idiot :D
Jury was included to prevent neighbor-voting. Jury votes for neighbors more than people..
I think Tamara should be relieved she didn't have that final two tense moment, to win the jury vote and to think you could win it all, then to get 58 televote points would be humiliating. I mean, we saw John Lundvik's face, I wouldn't wish that on anyone!
@susanasilva2232
5 жыл бұрын
Even though I don't like this new way of presenting the televote results (they should go back to the old one) I think Tamara was a good sport about the televote points she received, but I have to admit that you're right, maybe she could have had a different reaction after so much time wasted in creating suspense. We can make the math: there weren't enough points for Sweden to win, why waste so much time when we already knew The Netherlands had won, ugh.
@gwen9116
5 жыл бұрын
@@susanasilva2232 She was a great sport to be fair to her! Wonder how different it would have been having had that initial hope though. To be honest I'm not a huge fan of the jury system in general, there's such a huge and clear national bias that it ruins the fun for me (though I don't know how to fix that...luckily it's not my job!!)
@Natalia-yv3wo
5 жыл бұрын
@@susanasilva2232 Because not everyone does math during the final ;p But I agree that they should go back to the old system.
@nilerra8181
5 жыл бұрын
She was amazing during the results. She knew she was not going to win so she was just enjoying the moment.
@MortenLongbottom
5 жыл бұрын
I don't think that she would have reacted as swedish singer, probably she would have just smile, clapping and cheering. I admire her.
So Norway is 1st in the televote and 18th in the jury vote? GET OUT THE PITCHFORKS
@iosallsorts
5 жыл бұрын
Similar thing happened to Russia in 2016
@Natalia-yv3wo
5 жыл бұрын
@@iosallsorts And to Poland. 3rd in the televote, 25th in the jury vote.
@Bjorn2055
5 жыл бұрын
"Democracy" at work: You vote and the "elite" decides anyway
@ESCKrish
5 жыл бұрын
@@iosallsorts But Russia was still 5th. This is eighteenth...
@mpofc
5 жыл бұрын
Remove the juries!
I’d suggest that if a jury breaks the rules, their votes are simply disregarded, and only the televote counts. That means the country in question only gets to give out a total of 58 points instead of 116.
@kika12peggy17
5 жыл бұрын
yeah but then it puts the cheating country at an advantage because you would take away the one set of votes where they cannot receive points.
@irondasgr
5 жыл бұрын
@@kika12peggy17 Automatically ranked last place, too. Problem solved.
@nielsswaans5955
5 жыл бұрын
Give the televote the full 116
@Wim2600
5 жыл бұрын
niels swaans - If they do that, some countries may ENCOURAGE their juries to break the rules, as there are some that do not like the jury system.
@Wim2600
5 жыл бұрын
irondasgr - last place is a bit harsh, but reducing the total votes received by 25% (or 50% if the same country’s jury screws up a second time within 5 years) could work.
Still, it isn't factual. They don't know how the jury would've voted this year. I think it's a load of bollocks. I feel like this shows us how weird the jury vote is, in the first place.
@dorakemba2899
5 жыл бұрын
The jury underrated literally almost every entry that the public liked. And you can also see that many juries favoured some entries that the public did not rate/like _THAT_ much. Way to much differences between the jury and public votes and it's quite obvious that most just give their highest points to their neighbors (tele and jury votes). Idk if we could claim that the public "overrated" specific entries - bc I think it's about what most ppl, the majority, likes. Many ppl voted for the Netherlands, but majority wanted Norway as the winner. The Jury is represented by some 200 ppl. Meanwhile millions of ppl of Europe (and beyond Europes borders) watched ESC. The ppl that voted via SMS/off. App/Telephone are certainly WAAAAAAY more than just some 200 ppl.
@NS-un5lz
5 жыл бұрын
@@dorakemba2899 Netherlands was high in both the jury and the televote. Deserved winner. Your argument is bullocks.
@samstruyven2299
5 жыл бұрын
But what does it mean, for the jury vote to be 'weird'? Simply that it's different from the public vote? If it weren't, it wouldn't make sense to have a jury in the first place, no? Best thing EBU can do is either bin the jury vote entirely. But that wouldn't make much sense, they are broadcasters and professionals. It would be like food competitions on tv being judged exclusively by the public and not at all by professional bakers or chefs. Or they can split the trophy, give one to the public favourite and one to the jury winner. Host country then should be the country of the televote winner.
@thestralix
5 жыл бұрын
@@NS-un5lz Well, look at the other contestants though, high discrepancy regarding jury and televote with countries like, Norway, Sweden, Macedonia etc. pp.
@thestralix
5 жыл бұрын
@@samstruyven2299 It's rather simple, there's a discrepancy and the jury vote, as seen, very often, doesn't reflect the vote of the general public. I find your argument that it should be different so its existence is justified quite odd. They're not really music connoisseurs either, for my country Germany, the five jury members are usually some 2nd rate pop-singers or some rappers. So why is their vote equally weighted when there's 83 mio Germans.
Lol San Marino what a country! Turkish singer, simple and catchy song but the best: Lost 4 points but jumped 1 place higher! I wish my exams would be like that.. losing points but getting a better grade
@nursen2106
5 жыл бұрын
the way you put it, it sounds like a miracle, when in fact it is simple calculation (not even mathematics)
@swisschocolateish
5 жыл бұрын
It's all relative (if someones looses more than you loose, then you win!)
@meropale
5 жыл бұрын
@@swisschocolateish Your math is perfect! Your spelling, not so much....
@swisschocolateish
5 жыл бұрын
@@meropale ouch, how can I improve?
@swisschocolateish
5 жыл бұрын
Okay, *someone, anything else?
Feel bad for Tamara. It's not quite the same to be told days later
@noelleirina5628
5 жыл бұрын
What does it matter anyway? She still didn't win.
@tamu7243
5 жыл бұрын
@@noelleirina5628 It wasn't about the victory, it was about the moment, the feeling.
@noelleirina5628
5 жыл бұрын
@@tamu7243 and I'm saying she wouldn't have felt THAT different if she was 1st or 2nd by jury's vote because it's not like that makes her the winner
@tamu7243
5 жыл бұрын
Noelle Irina how do you know? Are you Tamara?
@noelleirina5628
5 жыл бұрын
@@tamu7243 how do YOU know?
The juries are honestly a shambles. They need to revise the whole system tbh. Maybe have more juries per country, to make the results more reliable. Also they need to sort out some of the countries and their obvious block voting
@josephlarkin8168
5 жыл бұрын
An example of where juries are working pretty much correctly is Ireland. Ireland has a natural neighbor in the UK but to look at Irish jury votes not only is it clear the votes are impartial but there isn't a prevailing sense of loyalty to any nation the points could go anywhere and that is how it should run. So for me this is an example of how the juries can work and are working in places in which it is administered correctly. I think jurors should sit in indivudal booths during the process imo so they cant even see the other jurors to make it much more individual so all jurors do this correctly
@impossiblesoul
5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Larkin exaclty
@egorvelichko2473
5 жыл бұрын
Danish and Finnish jury as always gave points to Sweden neighbors
@Sabrinajaine
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the juries could judge blind, only rating on the songs without knowing what country they are?
@impossiblesoul
5 жыл бұрын
Sabrina Jaine Yh thats what I would like to see
I've just quickly withdrawn the $200 from my betting account that I won for Norway finishing in the top 5 before they take it back!
Not to mention that because of the same kind of a human error it was Poland that should have been in the final and not Belarus.
@mandarintomato9205
5 жыл бұрын
? Is this True?
@nataliak5076
5 жыл бұрын
Yes that true... a woman from Czech Republic jury did the voting incorectly...
@tom_4546
5 жыл бұрын
@@mandarintomato9205 is it over ?
@tom_4546
5 жыл бұрын
@@nataliak5076 yeah like Russian jurrors, Swedish and Italian televoting
Tamara should be invited to perform in Eurovision 2020. Give her the spotlight that she clearly deserves!
This is the second time Tamara is denied an Eurovision moment in favor of Sweden. :) Remember 2008?
@darwintano1996
5 жыл бұрын
Correction: 2008
@dynamicmk
5 жыл бұрын
Darwin Tano yup, it was 2008
Really sad how North Macedonia got their moment of glory taken away. Seeing a tiny country that often struggles in Eurovision head to head with the winner in the voting segment would've been insane. What a disappointment.
@petarristovski8530
5 жыл бұрын
That why EBU need to let us win on JESC 2019 like forgiveness for what they did here
@sharkfinn4
5 жыл бұрын
As a Swede, I wouldn't wish that humiliation on North Macedonia. They deserved that jury vote victory. The least we could do for unknowingly robbing them of the glory is take the bullet that was that final humiliating moment.
@dohamachannel5269
5 жыл бұрын
I think It wouldn’t be a glory moment for North Macedonia since they got only 58 points from televotes.
This year was a mess. And the president of the EBU verified the results. If anyone wants to sue, he's the one. Actually, what's done was done
@sergiobras7300
5 жыл бұрын
That and the mess of Portugal results. So many people in the semi tried to vote for them and got errors. Something wrong and fishy for me there!! Anyway the votes were messy this year!
N Power !!! Norway won televote North Macedonia - won jury Netherlands - winner ❤️
@yli18veetyyppi89
5 жыл бұрын
Well that's one good thing about North Macedonia's new name.
@tom_4546
5 жыл бұрын
@@yli18veetyyppi89 yeah Macedonia in Greece didn't slay at all Lol 🤣 sorry, just kidding
@mrdzz73
5 жыл бұрын
Lets vote for the song not for the performer,stage performance,controversy or even nation, this is not a presidential election. Proud of the winning song
@nando8215
5 жыл бұрын
XD
The unprofessionalism of EBU doesn't end here.... when awarding the prize for best composition to Mahmood the presenter said our singer didn't seem Italian because he was too humble and he went on to say that Italians aren't normally that way. Excuse me? You dish out steretypes about a whole country while awarding their rappresentative a prize? How unprofessional if not downright rude is that?
@pony7653
5 жыл бұрын
mimmi brontola Wow, I have no words. So, so rude. Eurovision this year was a mess. Rude, ignorant presenters and press, tons of countries with technical problems and now these corrected results.
@aangomesbranco
5 жыл бұрын
@@pony7653 not to mention casual racism all around by the presenters.
@TheLalapopo123
5 жыл бұрын
@@pony7653 I couldn't agree with you more. Worst Eurovision for decades.
Very happy for North Macedonia, Albania and Malta, but very sad for Slovenia and France
@finnpeters7867
5 жыл бұрын
Ugna They had the worst songs of the competition...
@guadualupe5443
5 жыл бұрын
Finn Lxke who?
@SaraMenashe
5 жыл бұрын
I think Slovenia had a boring and monotonic song without sny climax or bridge in it, even though it was calming song. The composing was not that good and it didn't deserve to be on the left side of the scoreboard. On the other hand, I feel sorry for France too. Bilal was very good, his song wa very good and also their performance on stage.
@finnpeters7867
5 жыл бұрын
Ugna Slovenia And France
@guadualupe5443
5 жыл бұрын
Sari Menashe Slovenia was my 3 overall lmao, I just loved the simplicity and their connection on the stage. But I can see how someone wouldn‘t like it
Biggest scandal of the year
The idea that using other countries' similar historic voting record is an indirect acknowledgement that political voting exists (which obviously it does but this shouldn't be aided by the EBU). The purpose of juries is theoretically to reduce any political bias (and also focus on the quality of the song but that's kind of irrelevant) so it seems illogical that the points they award should be matched to specific other countries. Surely it would make much more sense to use the Belarusian televote as 100% of their points or to cut out their jury vote entirely rather than using a set which is both inaccurate (I'm pretty sure they said that they loved Australia for example) and against the entire point of the juries.
San Marino jumps 1 place getting 4 points less... lol
@n2rvipundar
5 жыл бұрын
because Estonia lost 10 points.. cant believe Estonia now got lower score than San Marino because of MADE UP POINTS!
@swisschocolateish
5 жыл бұрын
Well no, San Marino has more points than Estonia WITHOUT MADE UP POINTS.
@n2rvipundar
5 жыл бұрын
@@swisschocolateish anyway this is sad
Can you imagine the drama if it turned out Netherlands didn't win? We dodge a bullet here guys, be thankful lol.
@Wiwibloggs
5 жыл бұрын
FunnyLilNightmare That would have been next level drama 😳
@nursen2106
5 жыл бұрын
;-D
@MsMaasi
5 жыл бұрын
@@Wiwibloggs James Charles / Tati who?
@budigunawan5624
5 жыл бұрын
they just want Norway to end up 6th so "juries vote" makes this happen. Norway has 15th on the running order on both semifinal 2 and grand final and ends up 6th (after the show ended, behind our backs). it's 15/15/6 so it's 666 while the netherlands last won in 1975 (44 years ago) next year is 2020 in which they will host. Both 1975 and 2020 equals each other. (1+9+7+5 is 22, 2+2=4). Take it what you will
William, what about Lithuania? The biggest robbery had happened to them :/ Italian televotes were misunderstood by EBU and as a results Lithuania was out and Denmark passed even though it would have been placed 11th if the results were calculated properly
Ya I thought it was strange that the Belarusian jury was an average of its neighbours and when no one voted for Israel at all and then Belarus gave him 12 points. I was really confused but this makes sense now.
@Wiwibloggs
5 жыл бұрын
Adam Carleton Amen! Shout out to euro Bruno on Twitter for calculating and forcing the EBU to check
Last year Austria won the jury votes but finished 12th with the televoting This year N Macedonia won the jury votes but finished 12th with the televoting The coincidence
@TaurusGirl22
5 жыл бұрын
다니엘라 omg 😮 true!!
@dohamachannel5269
5 жыл бұрын
But Austria finished in Top 5 which was good result
@awesomegful
5 жыл бұрын
@@dohamachannel5269 7th place is not bad at all
John: I won jury votes he he he, at least Tamara: Hold my sun darling😈
Belarus song lyrics: "let's break the rules" Belarus:*breaks the rules* Everyone: :0
To everyone saying that Sweden took our moment of glory and it was humiliating - it wasn't like that. Even 2 place with juries and 8 with combined points was too much for us because it's the first time such thing ever happened to us at Eurovision, we never even had our hopes this high 😅. Not saying that we shouldn't have had our moment of winning the jury vote, that would've been awesome, but when the battle was to happen between Macedonia and The Netherlands, it would've been kinda obvious that The Netherlands will win. 7th place is our best placement at Eurovision. Our country' song is not my favorite, but I am happy for these moments. 🤗
@nino96able
5 жыл бұрын
I got fingers crossed for Tamara ❤ to win the jury votes Lots of love from Slovenia.
Who would've thought North Macedonia would win the Jury vote ? So happy for them 🥰
@dohamachannel5269
5 жыл бұрын
RdRunH1 yeah. In this case Juries really helpful by giving points for Tamara’s underrated song
The jury’s are lucky it’s Norway , if they did Russia that dirty (18th) it would be now 3rd world war :D The broadcaster is mad even for the 3rd place this year.
@lindakristinekjlibraten757
5 жыл бұрын
Russia stayed in the semi final last year.
@TaurusGirl22
5 жыл бұрын
Linda Kristine Kjølibråten yeah but not because of the jury’s
Norway was denied the spotlight, N.Macedonia was denied the spotlight, very very sad!
the fact Armenia put Azerbaijan last, same with Georgia and Russia...this is not fair...
the juries are messing up the contest too much
@dorakemba2899
5 жыл бұрын
@Tara king Unfortunatly it would not change that much. Too many scandinavians/nordic would mostly favour other scandinavian/countries. Slavs would favour other slavic entries, Greece×Cyprus would still exchange their 12 pts. Just like Montenegro×Serbia, etc. etc. etc.
@TheLalapopo123
5 жыл бұрын
@@dorakemba2899 I agree, I would like my country to quit Eurovision for good. It has become so extremely hypocritical and messy that it's almost not worth participating in it anymore.
@dorakemba2899
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheLalapopo123 I wish the same for my country (Albania) to be honest with you. This contest has lost trustworthiness, honesty and authenticity in my opinion. There are even studies that prove that there is bias in televotings. I wonder why they never analyze jury votes? And that entries in their native languages score lower results than in English. So it's not a wonder that so many sing in English. But the fact that EBU had to admit that they messed it up just bc somone called them out on twitter... is quite sad. Imagine the time when there was no social media to call out errors.
@tom_4546
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah than Russia and Ukraine would be winner every year
My country (Slovenia) lost 2 PLACES coz' of this BS! We went from the left side of the scoreboard(13th place) to the right side(15th place). We had matched our best placing in ESC in this decade (from 2011) and now we fell for 2 places. Come on! They should just leave out Belarusian jury this year, and not award their own points! :(
@nielsswaans5955
5 жыл бұрын
Be proud. You shouldn't be in the finale at all. Such a boring song.
@sircadogan9984
5 жыл бұрын
@@nielsswaans5955 It's not our fault you are listening to music with your eyes, not ears.
@user-vb3xf4ur5e
5 жыл бұрын
Your song was the most boring song this year...
@sircadogan9984
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-vb3xf4ur5e Once again. Start listening to music not watching it.
@user-vb3xf4ur5e
5 жыл бұрын
I listening.. still boring... the song not going any where..
2008 - Tamaras spotlight stolen from Sweden 2019 - Tamaras spotlight stolen from Sweden
@dohamachannel5269
5 жыл бұрын
Ivan Kocev I think it would be best for her. Let’s imagine, When you’re on TV with 185mil of viewers. You won the Jury votes and about to know your points to know the winner and it turns out that you received only 58 points. It would be a bad experience for her.
This means Norway isn’t 15th with the jury, but 18th. *EVEN MORE OF A ROBBERY*
Jury has to be cancelled.
I'm glad the tension revealing the winner was not between The Netherlands and North Macedonia because we can have the John Lundvik memes But I'm gutted Malta didn't have their 12 points moment!!
@escfanforever569
5 жыл бұрын
Malta is so unfortunate
@acidicsalt7214
5 жыл бұрын
As someone who is from Malta, we are all got hurt when we heard this news. The Belarusian juries should be ashamed of themselves
@Fatima502
5 жыл бұрын
It was bad enough that the announcers pretended John might get 253 points. It would really have been torture porn to suggest that Tamara might get the 252 she needed (to overtake Duncan's 498), then film her reaction to the meagre 58 points which were actually available.
@acidicsalt7214
5 жыл бұрын
@@escfanforever569 Malta is one of the unluckiest countries in the contest to be honest 🤷🏻♀️
@seanwilson6559
5 жыл бұрын
@@acidicsalt7214 too true honey
No one died, didn't change the winner..So not a disaster, but unfortunate mistake.
Sorry from Belarus, we didn't want to ruin the celebration for u, Europe. "thanks" to our juries, wish they will be replaced next year with more young and creative people, not with singers from the 80-90s in USSR.
This is but one of the many crimes this year. Looking forward to that video ;D
Probably said this 100 times now because JUSTICE FOR NORWAY but juries are unreliable. They are just as political, if not more so, than the public, and they cannot follow simple instructions. It is baffling that half of a country's votes are coming from people who sometimes cannot understand the basic instructions of no discussing how you voted and to to rank from 1st to last. Have always said this but they should make it the jury vote as it is and then give the public vote x3 to make the jury vote 25% until the EBU gets their act together with juries.
WOW!!!! CONGRATULATIONS TO NORTH MACEDONIA ❤❤❤❤!!!!! YOU DESERVED IT!!!!!!!!
@ljuben5738
5 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan Sloth they did more than Sweden
@escrozmic9007
5 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan Sloth So who deserved more from your point of view?
@vladimirblagoev7010
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you🙌
@papateras4212
5 жыл бұрын
DESERVE WHAT ?? JUDGES VOTE WAS POLITICAL , TELEVOTING WAS THE REAL VOTE , THATS DESERVED IT
@escrozmic9007
5 жыл бұрын
@@papateras4212 Because all of my friends were touched by this song. I have to disagree with political voting for North Macedonia, because they did get points not just from Balcan countries.
I think it’s funny how everyone is so pissed that we stole Norway’s fifth place except the Norwegians, they just have their normal attitude towards us lol. In the end of the day they still won the televote which is more important imo. I agree that there is bias towards Sweden from the jury’s and I hope people realize that not all Swedes are arrogant, I would have been super happy with the 9th place from the televote this year
@nursen2106
5 жыл бұрын
I havn't noticed that. I myself am still happy that Norway won the televotes, because I found them (and others) to be sooo underrated by the jury and most of the jury's top 5 totally overrated - compared with all the other entries I mean. I mean, just the distance between first and second place - 30 points. that is a lot. and it shows, what esc viewers rather expect from the competition. (radiofriendly - not that it is a totally bad thing, but it is not always fit for a big stage AND radiofriendly is what we get throughout the year anyway. it doesn't matter, if they come 2nd, 3rd, 5th. but something more outstanding should win. the older I get, the more I appreciate all these 'different' kind of music entries. no matter, which genre and style. )
@lindakristinekjlibraten757
5 жыл бұрын
We have 2 x Johannes in sport who will take revange! LOL!
Yay, Tamta and Michela are higher!! :) 🇨🇾🇨🇾🇨🇾 🇲🇹🇲🇹🇲🇹 🔥🔥🔥
Yay for Michela and Jonida
Czech juror apparently voted wrong (in reverse) in the semi 1 as well and if she voted as she meant to Poland would have qualified to the grand final instead of Belarus. My lil polish heart is breaking ;(
@katzlang
5 жыл бұрын
nooooo whyyyy Tulia had to win
Excellent update William...very professional and clear. Thank you!
Ughhh those are the only 12 points Malta receiveddddd.....how unfortunate :(
@user-kk6uv2be9u
5 жыл бұрын
Malta was sooooo robbed im bitter
@Fatima502
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-kk6uv2be9u You're right, if anyone deserved to get a jury 12 on TV, it was Michela
@dohamachannel5269
5 жыл бұрын
Poor Malta. They deserved a 12-point-reaction at that moment.
Something was very strange with ALL the jury vote, why they give Norway so little points when it was by far the best song?
@MrErikKlarenbeek
5 жыл бұрын
The best song was not Norway, it was a gimick. People like gimick trashy clownesk songs. Thank god for the Jurys
I was curious to see how the results would have turned out had the Belarusian jury vote been dismissed entirely. This is what I calculated (It’s important to note that with these results Sweden would have won the jury vote by 1 point.) 1. The Netherlands (492 points) 2. Italy (465 points) 3. Russia (369 points) 4. Switzerland (360 points) 5. Sweden (332 points) 6. Norway (331 points) 7. Azerbaijan (297 points) 8. North Macedonia (295 points) 9. Australia (284 points) 10. Iceland (232 points) 11. Czech Republic (157 points) 12. Denmark (120 points) 13. Slovenia (105 points) 14. France (105 points) 15. Cyprus (101 points) 16. Malta (95 points) 17. Albania (90 points) 18. Serbia (89 points) 19. San Marino (77 points) 20. Estonia (76 points) 21. Greece (74 points) 22. Spain (54 points) 23. Israel (35 points) 24. Belarus (31 points) 25. Germany (24 points) 26. United Kingdom (11 points) And since there'd be an imbalance between the amount of jury and televote points given, here's a version without the Sammarinese "televote" (since people frequently question how it's being calculated.) 1. The Netherlands (486 points) 2. Italy (457 points) 3. Russia (357 points) 4. Switzerland (355 points) 5. Sweden (332 points) 6. Norway (328 points) 7. North Macedonia (295 points) 8. Azerbaijan (293 points) 9. Australia (284 points) 10. Iceland (230 points) 11. Czech Republic (157 points) 12. Denmark (120 points) 13. Slovenia (105 points) 14. France (105 points) 15. Malta (95 points) 16. Cyprus (94 points) 17. Albania (90 points) 18. Serbia (89 points) 19. San Marino (77 points) 20. Estonia (76 points) 21. Greece (64 points) 22. Spain (54 points) 23. Israel (34 points) 24. Belarus (31 points) 25. Germany (24 points) 26. United Kingdom (11 points) Let me know if you spot any errors!
@Pawhlen
5 жыл бұрын
So we would have finished 5th no matter what, so case closed
@teekessel
5 жыл бұрын
@@Pawhlen This was not done to prove something against your country. Please don't feel attacked. Many people saw the aggregated vote as a mistake and think it should have not influenced the result at all.
If the Belarussian jury kept their mouths SHUT then they wouldn’t have been dismissed, and this fracas wouldn’t have taken place. SHAME ON THE JURY! Love you William!
I think they already knew about this huge mistake at the end or right after the show, but they kept it quiet until someone on twitter posted about this mistake. So because of that post, the EBU were "forced" to come out with the true story. After all of the last recent years, the jury- and televoting result sequences are posted in separate clips on the official Eurovision KZread channel, right after the final show. They did that straight away after the shows of 2016, 2017 and 2018! But they didn't post any voting results of this year's final. Not on the same day or the day after this show... and they still didn't! You can only watch it, when you start the grand final, just like Madonna's "out-of-tune". They actually did post both semi-final result announcements right after those shows, though. Because there was no mistake in those results.
That‘s a very weird situation to handle.
Finally the deserved 12 points for Michaela 🇲🇹🇲🇹🇲🇹❤
Russia got 26th place from Georgian jury. 26th... And it affected the Belarusian results as well! WTF?
Unfortunately it is unfair if you discard the jury's vote in such event. A jury can never vote for its own country, meaning you have to give points to others (and thereby making it less likely for your own country to win). If the jury vote doesn't count anymore, you are decreasing the competition with other countries and make it more likely for your own country to win (no points for your competitors). Guess basically every jury will break the rules then, just to help your own country. So yeah, aggregate results are unfair but necessary.
I don't think that they could've left Belarus out of the jury vote bc if casual viewers saw that their country wasn't there then the EBU would probably come under even more fire than now. Most viewers of the show probably won't even know that there was a mistake, so I don't think it matters that they fixed the vote, bc most people won't know that countries like NM had points stolen from them. I hope this situation makes the EBU consider just axing the jury vote, since it almost never lines up with the public vote, and how can the show be free of politics if the juries always give the most points to their neighbours?
Thanks Wiwibloggs for this amazing esc season! You guys are the best! Can’t wait for December!
@anyascrap1138
5 жыл бұрын
Me too:)
Wiping those point would be better option then strange process.
@ievaradvilezalyte6028
5 жыл бұрын
This wouldn't be a wise decision as other countries would lose a chance of getting jury points from Belarus while Belarus wouldn't lose a chance.
The least they should do is to invite Tamara to perform on next year's Eurovision. Give her some screen time to compensate for this error.
@dohamachannel5269
5 жыл бұрын
Marija Vasilevska They could invite Tamara like Israel invited Eleni
@marijav775
5 жыл бұрын
@@dohamachannel5269 Exactly! That would be a good way to compensate for the lost screen time 🤗
We will miss you, thanks William and wiwibloggs for the nice videos last months!
What if something like that happened last year with fuego? I have doubts now about all previous winners and results...
We don't know what is happening behind the scenes. This is part of the game, we should not expect to much of this TV-Show. Politics, strategies and corruption surely find a way. It's like everywhere 😉
Thanks EBU for correctig the votes, because I was sooooo amazed when seeing and hearing the votes live saterday night of Belarus... Revieuw those live votes and try to understand how one country can give notes ONLY to the countries at de right side but Australia. It was ridiculous, not understandable and it did sustain the idea that even jury votes are political. I'm glad they cleaned this !
Macedonia 🇲🇰 must Winn
This is what you can call Jury Juice, William!
lol RIP betting companies! North Macedonia was 17th to win the jury vote in the odds, less than 1% chance 😂 people who placed bets on her are gonna become millionaires 😂
@e.p.5678
5 жыл бұрын
She didnt win
@samlovesu6941
5 жыл бұрын
Euro Pride yes she did this whole video is literally about that 😂 and how she won the jury vote
@TheLalapopo123
5 жыл бұрын
@@samlovesu6941 She won the jury votes, that doesn't mean that she won the whole contest...
@samlovesu6941
5 жыл бұрын
Úlfar Viktor yeh and that’s what I said in my comment? Bookies had her 17th to win the jury vote?
@samlovesu6941
5 жыл бұрын
Úlfar Viktor I didn’t say she won the whole thing? 😂
Human errors happen... Unfortunate, but they just do
@budigunawan5624
5 жыл бұрын
they just want Norway to end up 6th so "juries vote" makes this happen. Norway has 15th on the running order on both semifinal 2 and grand final and ends up 6th (after the show ended, behind our backs). it's 15/15/6 so it's 666 while the netherlands last won in 1975 (44 years ago) next year is 2020 in which they will host. Both 1975 and 2020 equals each other. (1+9+7+5 is 22, 2+2=4). Take it what you will
The biggest debacle you haven't even mentioned: In the semifinal Belarus took the spot from Poland to qualify to the final. So ZENA was not even allowed to perform. Tulia were supposed to qualify. How will EBU compensate this?
@dohamachannel5269
5 жыл бұрын
N D they will ignore it and act like nothing happened
Can you do a video on the jury vote and public vote pros and cons? Thanks!
Man, Your so good, i have never watched you before, but your really good and funny and smart....
Will they adjust those which juries put their votes in the opposite orders?
Thanks for a great season William! Btw bring back Eurovision charades for the off season!
SO HAPPY WITH MALTA CYPRUS ALBANIA BELARUS ALL GOING UP
@tom_4546
5 жыл бұрын
Belarus was trash ....:( But she bring energy ....Poland should've been in final ...
You’re so right about the crying shame of this mistake. It breaks my heart too
Cannot wait for video about crimes! Because you should talk about Madonna and Iceland's oopssie on voting and issue with ear peace (or whatever you call that thing in your ear) :D
Cyprus is now 13th🇨🇾🇨🇾🇨🇾
@Wiwibloggs
5 жыл бұрын
engelleip 96 Left hand side. Well deserved.
@engelleip9625
5 жыл бұрын
@@Wiwibloggs So true. As a Cypriot American who enjoyed last year the moment of Eleni Foureira, i can totally understand how sad it is for North Macedonia not to enjoy their well deserved first place in the jury vote
@GLamoRousCooKie
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Slovenia is 15th. I'm sorry but this aggregated points are total bullshit.
But still Greece is 21st... but happy for Tamta 😍
@nursen2106
5 жыл бұрын
yes Greece. so sad about the results. fascinated by her voice
@SaraMenashe
5 жыл бұрын
@@nursen2106 Though her voice was great, the song was still annoying: repeating similar patterned sentences over and over again: Better love, Better love Who you love, who you love and ect..
@nursen2106
5 жыл бұрын
@@SaraMenashe I would have said, that is called a chorus. but ok. and, which entry didn't do that? I would like to know
@tom_4546
5 жыл бұрын
@@nursen2106 portugal
@nursen2106
5 жыл бұрын
@@tom_4546 yes, of course. was it in the finals? no. so, I wonder, which 3 min song, that usually has an overweight on the chorus was different? definitely non of the top 10 - and still - and let's not forget, that this is the point, we were trying to make from the beginning - in comparison with the others, the total ranking - Greece 21st? somebody said, he has that suspicion, that people overlook Greek entries, when they don't sound like Greek pop, we are used to from the past. I think, he might be right
Sweden: omg we won the jury vote, tea North Macedonia: Hold my pride and I OOP-
I don't think it's a good idea to change the result afterwards. Don't get me wrong, it's good that the EBU admits its mistake, but it's just too late for a correction. Most viewers (excluded us) either don't notice it at all or take note of it without being interested in it at all. You could say it's fairer, but there should be no advantage for those involved. Some countries are given points to take away, others are given points they can't really be happy about. And it doesn't change anything about the Netherlands' overall victory. I also wonder what the EBU would have done if such a mistake had happened in a semi-final and had switched places 10 and 11? You certainly wouldn't have repeated the final, that wouldn't have been an option. In other competitions, like football, the result is not corrected either, for example if there was an irregular goal and yes, that also happened in very important matches.
I dont care bout televote or jury winner, you need to be the overall WINNER🏆 That's all in the game. Anyway, William and team thanks a lot for great video's. See ya next year!🥰
@Wiwibloggs
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Euro Pride!
I thought something was wrong when the UK ended up with 16 points. Are we sure there isn't another mistake: 11 points still seems too high.
Gutted Norway is 6th not 5th Keiino will always be my 2019 winners💖 we need you sorting the votes william👍🏼😍 love ya x
Why would Belarus give Russia only 1 point?
YEEEAAAAAHHHHH 🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰
It's possible that EBU did it in purpose in order to obtain a final battle between Sweden and the Netherlands rather than between North Macedonia and the Netherlands ...
@Dukiduledoozy
5 жыл бұрын
The same thing crossed my mind!
William your an amazing speaker!! 😀
@Wiwibloggs
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and your kind words EqualityOnEarth.
I love your channel William
@Wiwibloggs
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, Mona! We love you!
@monaweheliye1844
4 жыл бұрын
I really wanna be on your channel
You should talk about robberies in the voting! (Czechia third last in televote, Australia 9th, San Marino, Spain)
I agree with everything on the video but there are other things bothering me here: - An aggregated score doesn't really make sense for a jury vote. You could see why that would work for the televote, but historical voting patterns shouldn't have ANYTHING to do with how music experts vote. (Same reason why the eternal 12 point exchange between the juries Greece and Cyprus for example is outrageous). As William said the votes should be discounted all together. - I'm baffled that this means that Israel received 0 points from juries after Kobi delivered one of the best vocals of the night. I've been going through the detailed voting and some juries ranked him dead last or second to last, which doesn't make any sense to me. Are juries punishing host countries deliberately? If that the case, it would be really wrong and should be called out.
@freyja8384
5 жыл бұрын
It’s a song contest not a singing contest, he didn’t get any jury votes because the song was bad.
At the final the crowd was talking about that, we already knew. but the crowd was happy for Kobi
I ultimately think that 1- Juries should vote in the Grand Final, not in the so-called "Jury show". Artists might have had a bad "Jury show" day, and this affects points 2- Juries results should also be revealed as in the televote, ordering the points from the bottom to the top 3- If another mess-up occurs again, I think that aggregate results shouldn't be crossing EBU's minds. Let's just discount them! Great job, William!
It’s ridiculous. I feel bad for Norway. Also thanks for your dedication. Now go rest!
I think it's totally unfair to all the delegations and artists involved. Poor Norway, thinking they'd made the top 5 and then Sweden pushed them out. This should have never happened and unfortunately, it wasn't the only voting mistake that was made this year. Jurors voting backwards is becoming an ever increasing problem and surely, the voting partners should pick up that most jurors in that country placed a song high and then one particular juror placed completely different countries in the top. It seems weird too me as again this has affected results! Sweden's 8 to Austria meant Austria didn't finish last in the semi but Ireland did and Czech Republic's voting in semi 1 snubbed Poland of a place in the final and instead Belarus qualified. This needs to be dealt with and problems like this cannot arise in 2020!
@lindakristinekjlibraten757
5 жыл бұрын
As a record holder of last places, we can't complain when we end top 10! We are proud of KeiiNo, and they did their very best. So if there are some issues, ok. Personally, I am just happy to see The Netherlands won. I was just 1 year old when they did and I am now old enough to be a grandmother of a 1 year old child (I am not, though, just to put things in perspective)'
I'd be happy not to have to be in that last tense final moment if I was Tamara. She did miss out on the glory, but also them displaying her momentary disappointment and everyone making memes of your reaction to losing.