US guy as English knight, Italian guy as samurai, now all you need is a Chinese guy dressed as a cowboy to complete the circle. :) Great collab! I find both of your scholarly-yet-hands-on styles a good match. Hope you both gain a bunch of subscribers from the exchange.

@ElliFong

8 жыл бұрын

Funny as a Chinese from South East Asia, I am fan of medieval knight and Western Cowboy, also plan to get a 1890 victorian/wild west frontier costume

@ElliFong

8 жыл бұрын

Actually I have a 1270-1300 Knight Templar kits in progress.

@Condottier

8 жыл бұрын

Or an Indian guy dressed in an Aztec fighting attire so we can keep everything in the same period and make it more international.

@Megalomaniakaal

7 жыл бұрын

Please, The Chinese guy should try some native American armor... Be it bone breastplate or turtle-shell breastplate and I even seem to recall having seen some pictures of like scale-mail type stuff but made from wood pieces with some added metal work... edit: wait for it to be a full circle shouldn't it be a Japanese guy wearing it?

@malnutritionboy

7 жыл бұрын

+EricPaz Singapore?

No dancing? I mean you guys could've at least included some armored dancing.

@unnecessaryfairy

8 жыл бұрын

I agree. Terrible oversight. lol.

@reddokkfheg9443

8 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. More armored dancing

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Next time! ;)

@reddokkfheg9443

8 жыл бұрын

Knyght Errant Looking forward to that :)

@jacobyin5320

8 жыл бұрын

You should try tap-dancing.

"and today in armoured aerobics class..."

@barghestblue731

7 жыл бұрын

"join us next time for armored yoga...."

@KinkyBillyMays

6 жыл бұрын

"And then the week after that for armoured zumba."

@Tech-Kaplan-Kali

6 жыл бұрын

And in the near future: Gymnastics in full combat kit. Obstacle run with a firefighter equipment. As well as jogging in a radiation-proof suit.

@samuraijackoff5354

5 жыл бұрын

I’d join

I've never understood the lack of logic of the public representation of armor. If it was so restrcting and difficult to wear knight armor, then they wouldn't have been used in the first place. The fact that they were is proof enough that they were efficient

@KnyghtErrant

7 жыл бұрын

I think it comes from the willingness of modern people (of any given time period) to falsely assume that they are smarter than the people who came before them. A lot of people are comfortable believing that Medieval people were a bunch of idiots, and wouldn't have known any better than to try and fight in something they believe to be cumbersome, overly heavy, and ineffective.

@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522

7 жыл бұрын

This idea comes from 18-19 centry theater and when theater evolved into cinema this idea sirvived

@scbwrhcp

7 жыл бұрын

I'm no medieval expert, mostly like medieval styles in games and such (think it's cool and an interesting artistic direction), but I think the opposite; a lot of the inventions seem very genius. Especially if you remember they had to craft these weapons, armor, ammo, siege, tools, etc. without any power tools whatsoever. It's amazing.

@CzornyLisek

7 жыл бұрын

Belive in clumsiness of "medieval" armor come from very late/post medieval tournament/jousting only armor, that was very thick end restrict movement greatly but also give great protection in jousting. Well You was supposed just to hold a long wooden stick. Another source of belive in clumsiness of those armors come from old fantasy books. Especially "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court" by Mark Twain. It's joke, satire, fantasy, sci-fiction book but apparently people in US taken it seriously...

@ohauss

7 жыл бұрын

Indeed. People tend to forget that for example jousting in the list, neck mobility wasn't needed. You saw where the opponent were coming from, and between neck mobility and avoiding neck trauma, the latter was the preferable alternative. Likewise, if you fell, there'd be squires and pages to help you up. On the battlefield, with some bad luck, there'd by a bunch of angry peasants to hack you to pieces if you don't get up quickly enough.

My fiancee walked by, stopped, and said: "Why are you watching guys in armor stepping up and down on a stool?" Watching articulation, babe.

@KnyghtErrant

6 жыл бұрын

You know... the important stuff in life.

@Avatar_of_Apollo

6 жыл бұрын

Have you played any of the total war stuff? I imagine you would probably like it, especially the medieval 1212 warfare mod in Attila.

@KnyghtErrant

6 жыл бұрын

As much as I am passionate about history, I actually prefer Total War Warhammer, sacrilege, I know... I have played a lot of Medieval II as well.

@theonlyMoancore

3 жыл бұрын

@@KnyghtErrant For Honor would be a cool game for you to check out, it's a fantasy game based on Knights vs Vikings vs Samurai vs Wu Lin. you could make a video about it! But be warned, it's pretty hard.

the misconception about armour making you too heavy to fight effectively is probably people from the Victorian era confusing jousting tournament armour for battlefield armour

@muttonchops2232

4 жыл бұрын

Those damn Victorians

@jonajo9757

3 жыл бұрын

That, and also some rich Victorian fuck thinking that a random preserved suit of late medieval or renaissance armor would fit them when its not tailored to their body.

@royalecrafts6252

Жыл бұрын

There were cavalry heavy armor ranging from 30 to 38kg

@joenuts5167

Жыл бұрын

@@royalecrafts6252 that’s for Calvary and they weren’t supposed to be fighting off their horse anyways so it’s negligible

@someonejustsomeone1469

Жыл бұрын

What if it was a deliberate propaganda to discourage cavalry warfare to promote more infantry with firearms? Makes sense given warfare at the time. After all, cavalry needed extremely heavy bulletproof armour that didn't even cover the whole body.

If seen without context or explanation this is surreal and hilarious.

@Jossandoval

8 жыл бұрын

I have found that to be true for the vast majority of actions and concepts.

@lughfiregod16

7 жыл бұрын

It's pretty clear they are testing mobility...

An Italian discussing Japanese armor, and an American discussing English armor- I love different cultures getting together to talk about our similarities. Thanks you guys, this was great!

@yogibear5995

7 жыл бұрын

Tydyd1 yes I agree with that

@mikepowell8611

6 жыл бұрын

English history is American history.

@PaladinPoppie

6 жыл бұрын

Mike Powell Yup right up until 1776. That’s when we get a little “diffrent.”

@VunderGuy

6 жыл бұрын

"I love different cultures getting together to talk about our similarities.' So you hate diversity with a passion. Good to know.

@PaladinPoppie

6 жыл бұрын

Found the SJW.

BUT CAN YOU SQUAT LIKE TRUE SLAV?! Other than that good informational vid :)

@KnyghtErrant

7 жыл бұрын

Heels down!

@dropout2804

7 жыл бұрын

Knyght Errant Ye boi

@thelordchancellor3454

6 жыл бұрын

Сука Blyat Knyght Errant knows of the Slav ways!

@andoniarmentia1024

6 жыл бұрын

Well, you can western-spy squat

@notatruck2640

6 жыл бұрын

Heel on ground when slavs around

Late medieval armor is fine and all but I would love to see more vids on dark ages armor, Byzantine etc, its an era that never gets some attention. Great vid guys.

@Jey096

7 жыл бұрын

well of course it gets nearly no attention. We have very few historical records about them... they were called the dark ages for a reason

@lughfiregod16

7 жыл бұрын

Mail, helmet, shield. ;)

@lughfiregod16

7 жыл бұрын

Mail, helmet, shield. ;)

@smooth_sundaes5172

7 жыл бұрын

Also, the Byzantine army progressed over a period of almost a thousand years from the fall of the western empire and became increasingly a composite of many different peoples and different influences from the Seljuk Turks of Asia to the Varangian Guard. This last were traditionally Vikings but also included a lot of Anglo-Saxons.

@jacksonkeller4333

7 жыл бұрын

+Jey096 The Roman Empire (Byzantine) left plenty of historical records during the dark ages, including military treatises (and they continued to have sophisticated tactics and strategy). I just want to see more recreations of the armor and weapons they used. . .

It's interesting to see that the mail was one of the most restrictive pieces of the armor, I would not have expected that at all.

@KnyghtErrant

7 жыл бұрын

It's important to note that it's my mail that was one of the most restrictive pieces, not all mail would do the same. My shirt makes some serious historical compromises when it comes to tailoring when compared to higher end historical examples of mail shirts.

Toby and Matt, Skall and Lindy, Ian and Raffaello. The season of collaboration has finally come. Armored aerobics in the tune of some epic music...yeah, that's awesome.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

We tried not to skimp on the epicness of the music :) Although, I think Metatron won in the music department!

@frequencydecline5250

8 жыл бұрын

lindy is too ....yeah...i'll just say i'm hoping to never have to see or hear a video with him again.

@alexandrumoise1511

6 жыл бұрын

why? I'm honestly curious.

@haillobster7154

4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Shad.

@undyingUmbrage

4 жыл бұрын

@@frequencydecline5250 y tho

Because of KZread recommendation, I've gone down a rabbit hole videos about medieval armors and they be cool as fuck

I watched a video that helped debunk the myth of none agility in medieval armour. It compared the full Fire Fighters Rig, Soldiers Rig, and Knights Armour. They did the militaries speed and agility race course. They found out that Medieval armour was more agile in most of the course.

Armor is almost always designed to be an extra layer of skin. It is only when an untrained person starts to wear it that these "it's too heavy" downsides occur. And even then it's relatively simple to train yourself to deal with the extra weight.

@genericfakename8197

6 жыл бұрын

The weight and heat of body armour can't be totally discounted, there are plenty of modern cases of say soldiers coming back from Iraq with crushed or slipped disks in their backs from carrying all the extra weight of their gear day after day for a long campaign.

@milanpospisil8024

5 жыл бұрын

@@genericfakename8197That is true for mail as for backpack , but plate sits mostly on your waist.

@GregYong

4 жыл бұрын

Lol wrong, it's only when you're really trained that the "too heavy" downsides manifest. Or rather if you're facing an equally skilled, or more skilled opponent.

@JohnSmith-zk8xp

3 жыл бұрын

bullshit, its always a problem. its just that trained people are better able to deal with the problem, until they get tired or until the limits they face is detrimental, with is constantly.

@royalecrafts6252

Жыл бұрын

Todays armor is just not armor, is mostly equipment and gear carried on your back, medical supplies, bullets and intel gear, plate armor puts the overall weight all around the body not just the back

Even though the Japanese armor seemed to perform marginally better, I'd much rather wear the European armor, both for it SEEMING (keyword: SEEMING) sturdier, and also for it making you look badass.

@KnyghtErrant

7 жыл бұрын

There's no 'seeming' about it. It's far sturdier. Also consider that the technological level of the medieval armor was at that point 200 years before the Japanese reached the level you see in the video. Around the time of my medieval armor in this video, this is what the Japanese samurai was wearing - www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/23025

@secutorprimus

7 жыл бұрын

+Knyght Errant Thought so. Europe Ftw!

@lucanic4328

7 жыл бұрын

Actually during the XV century, samurai armors would have been more like this : www.fujibi.or.jp/assets/images/collection/base/00861.jpg web.prm.ox.ac.uk/weapons/images/stories/samurai_cutout_72dpi.jpg (this is a replica of the edo period, but still do maru style) Oyoroi were replaced during the XIV century by the do maru, but the level you get during the XVI century with the tosei gusoku for me is the same, for both armors, but is just a humble opinion ;) Keep in mind that there are plenty of auxiliary pieces when talking about samurai armor.

@KnyghtErrant

7 жыл бұрын

Ah dang it, you're right I corrected my link above. I linked to the wrong Japanese armor. I intended to link to this one (www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/23025). Either way, if we look at the flip side of the comparison, Metatron's harness is dated to about the 1580s, this is what was being worn in Europe at that time (www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/22276). The reason we chose armors 200 years apart can be seen in the description.

@lucanic4328

7 жыл бұрын

Knyght Errant It's true that european armor born basically 100 years before the japanese counterpart; the big evolution in Japan happened during the XVI century with the introduction of the sugake odoshi lacing styles in 1520 and firearms in the 1543. However, they were already in that direction with the creation of tosei gusoku armors during early XVI century, before the meeting with the europeans, where the weight is distributed in the waist like in the european breastplate (like in the mogami dou). Creating armor made of plates was the next logical steps For the description: the okegawa do is a native style developed by japanese people, and is more dated to the 1550 rather than the 1580 (is basically the evolution of the mogami do), also the one you mention in the description is the namban or the hatomune dou which are "based" on european design, but is more japanese then anything else ;) The main real technological advance europe had compared to japan was firearms and better ships at that time;)

Interesting that the tailoring of the mail seems to have been your single greatest limiting factor, not the plate components.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

It will be interesting to see if the plate becomes the limiting factor once the mail is tailored or replaced :) I will revisit this when I transition to individual tailored mail sleeves to see how much of a change results.

@ThisOldHat

8 жыл бұрын

I think this experiment shows one reason why plate harnesses slowly dispensed with the full mail shirt during the course of the 15th century (at least in England). It seems like it would have been easier to tailor small segments of mail to cover the gaps, rather than fit an entire shirt/hauberk.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thisold Hatte This extends back into the 14th century as well, mail sleeves and skirts show up in inventories all the way from the beginning of the 1300s. The reason I don't have much choice in the matter is that I don't wear a backplate. When we do see people with solid one-piece uncovered breastplates they usually have a full mail shirt on because matching backplates don't exist yet, and even the forms of rigid back defense you see on some styles of coats of plates don't protect the entire back. It was really more the development of better plate cuirasses and torso protection that allowed them to dispense with full mail shirts as the norm in my opinion. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o6mopM-weqa8ZLQ.html

So plate armor for me ^^ I couldnt get my leg higher in the air without armor anyway.

@gaboderflinger7854

7 жыл бұрын

It feels good that you only need to spend points on strenght and don't worry about agility lol

@estroll5034

6 жыл бұрын

Nope, it's exercising for you

Do you think you could do a video detailing the major functional and thought process differences between different countries' style of armor? I'd love to be able to identify an English vs French suit on sight but I can't seem to find any info about what makes them delineable from one another. I can recognize German gothic and Milanese styles of course, but if you were to show me a drawing of the battle of Agincourt and ask me which side was which I don't think I could if not for the heraldry. What is it that makes your kit English, for example?

@michaelcurl9200

8 жыл бұрын

For English styles you should go over to Matt Easton's channel, and look up his Tobias Capwell videos. I don't think a good study on French armour has been done yet.

@TheOhgodineedaname

8 жыл бұрын

What Micheal says here is a good pointer, that said French and English armor changed almost as fast as women's fashion so good luck keeping track of the changes and differences. During the later war of the roses English folks could also be wearing continental style armor.

@TheOhgodineedaname

8 жыл бұрын

Oh and another thing to keep in mind is that the most well known depictions of the 100 years war were made by Flemish and French manuscript illustrators who tend to depict both sides in anachronistic armor.

@MrMonkeybat

8 жыл бұрын

Look up the channel Scholargladitoria he has recently done some interviews with an armor historian covering that question if you are really keen buy the interviewee's book. Main differences between French and English armor is English armor is tailored more for fighting on foot. fully enclosed legs and longer folds on the breast plate. But some English armors may be in more continental style and vice versa. With fashions changing rapidly with each decade.

@rchave

7 жыл бұрын

English style is basically optimised for fighting on foot. Differences get more pronounced with time- Ian's harness wouldn't look too out of place in France. Gradually they got, Longer faulds that cover the groin (no saddle to cover you, or get in the way), Asymmetric arms (smaller than Italian ones to raise arms easier, but still more likely to have the left one forward using a pollaxe) Throughout 15th century they started to develop a distinct style of fluting, not straight diagonals like Gothic harness, but more curving, spiral, or shell-like patterns. Also "half mittens" seem to be an English trend, articulated fingertips with a large lame overlapping for more cover.

I have been following your channel and the Metatron's about as long and THANKYOU for this. So great to watch

I LOVE IT! I love how this is a simple no bull compair and contrast to inform you, not to tell you which is better. KZread needs more videos like this!

I'm more impressed by the fact you can do a push up in 30 kilo armour

looks like a sword to the ass is the knights' main weakness

@KnyghtErrant

7 жыл бұрын

From the _Gesta Henrici Quinti_ (c.1417) recounting an event at Agincourt - _"The brother of the king, the noble Duke Humphrey, was wounded in the groin. Gore flowed down from the sword. The king stood over him to assist him. He was in this battle the defender of his brother."_

@LaVidaHermosa

6 жыл бұрын

Knyght Errant OH SHIT

@alexandrosgrivas4406

6 жыл бұрын

that was covered later

@jonajo9757

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexandrosgrivas4406 Sort of? I wouldn't say it was covered entirely by a plate or extra maille. I'm assuming you meant like, well hidden with stuff like a skirt of maille, longer faulds or something.

I don't know why it's so funny to see how an armored guy jogging

@dividednations44

7 жыл бұрын

monty python effect

People do indeed have funny ideas of the European style armors. I mean sure, it does restrict movements but far less than people might imagine. Considering the amount of protection a full suit of armor offers, I'd say the slightly restricted mobility is minor trade-off. European armors were incredibly sophisticated and well designed and I'm glad a channel like this exists :p

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I think a lot of people who don't study European armor tend to write it off as very crude and immobile, which is really a shame. The level of coverage compared to the mobility is quite incredible in European armors, and the truth is by the time of the later Japanese harnesses, they were borrowing design elements from the Europeans. If we had compared 1400 AD Japanese armor it wouldn't even be fair because it was considerably heavier and not shaped well enough to distribute weight like the later examples.

Did you know that knights and guns co-existed for 300 years? (Useless information of the day)

@theonlyMoancore

3 жыл бұрын

*PARRY THIS YOU FUCKIN CASUAL*

@fabi3790

3 жыл бұрын

300? So long

I think people are also forgeting the most obvious difference, that these armors are 200 years apart, that's very significant and one of the reasons why the fanboyish comparing is ridiculous, you wouldn't compare level IV balistic armor plating with WW1 machineguner protective plating or even further in the past like some napoleonic uniforms or whatever

@adam-k

8 жыл бұрын

The big change is the introduction and widespread use of firearms. That could penetrate most armors. By the end of the 16th century European armors started to open up giving up protection for mobility. Not unlike the Japanses armors. The modern Japanese armor is essentially a Japanese take on the 16th century European armor.

@jancz357

8 жыл бұрын

***** it might seem like I am suggesting that there is the same tech. gap but I just meant to stress that there is a big difference, and overall trying to compare the two is basically nonsensical, but that's besides the point and I still think it's an awesome video, but comparing the two just doesn't make much sense, and I am calm I was just stating my opinion calmly, no caps lock :D

@adam-k

8 жыл бұрын

***** "You ARE suggesting there is a tech gap" The introduction of firearms to the battlefield is a HUGE tech gap. The 14th-15th century plate armor would protect against most weapons of the age with the exception of heavy pole weapons. It would be almost completely impenetrable against ranged missiles. It made no difference how fast you got close to the enemy It made perfect sense to sacrifice some mobility for such defense. However by the end of the 16th century firearms could penetrate all armor at close range and most from a 100 yards. 1 more minute in the killing zone of the firearms could mean the difference between life and death. So armors started to offer more mobility. In fact lots of people abandoned most armor or reduced them to cuirasses This would be a 14th century knight. minimumwagehistorian.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/14th-cen.jpg And this would be a early a mid 17th century www.minecreek.info/military-theory/images/8786_39_102-new-model-army-uniform.jpg Or 16th century French sodlier world4.eu/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/arquebusier_renaissance-military.jpg Note the almost complete lack of metal armor on the laters. Of course int he 16th and even the 17th century people wore plate armor. But in general less and less. No point carrying 60 pounds of armor if a bullet kills you just the same.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

The primary reason we chose two armors from 200 years apart is because we both had quality harnesses made specifically for us that happened to be from those times. The primary intent here is not to compare Japanese to European directly, but to show that both styles of armor are perfectly mobile from the standpoint of a person who needs to fight in them (it should be obvious that they were mobile enough to fight in since...well... lots of people fought in them... but for some reason the lay public is still skeptical that you could move in armor, especially Medieval European armor). Armor of course needs to fit properly to not artificially limit mobility, so we thought the value of showing two well-fitted armors was greater than trying to match the time periods perfectly while potentially sacrificing good fit. Otherwise you end up seeing people trying to overcome armor that doesn't fit which could have potentially backfired and perpetuated the myths we're trying to address. The second and less direct reason, which is really more coincidence, is that technologically, although separated in time, these two harnesses are probably more evenly comparable than Japanese and European harness both from ca. 1400. The shaping of European armor at that time was vastly superior to the equivalent Japanese harness which in my understanding incorporated very little anatomical shaping and primarily hung from the shoulders. The later Japanese harnesses (like the one in the video) took design elements from European armors to incorporate the load bearing lessons that the Europeans had already figured out. It is essentially Japanese armor with European influence.

thanks for collaborating with Metatron on this, it was interesting to actually see what I'd read and heard about i.e. a knight running, walking, jumping, etc. You didn't get into crawling but I'm sure that would have been no more difficult. I'd done all of the same back in the 80's-90's while in the service wearing my gear including an older style flak jacket so I'm no surprised at the ability to do these things, but it was good to see it as well.

Sweet video. Thanks to both of you for the quality and accuracy.

Just watched the Metatron's version and out of fairness had to watch yours too. Love both of your channel's.

Just had a marathon of watching your armour series. Bloody excellent stuff mate. This is what makes KZread great. Excellent and educational. Gained a new sub.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother, welcome to the channel!

excellent presentation I came over from the Metatron channel especially liked the comparison and the way you worked together on this .. subscribed

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks, welcome to the channel!

Awesome video. I'm off to watch Metatron's video. Excellent idea for the video and execution as well. More videos of this kind are definitely needed, not just for armor, but for weapons too.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'd love to do more videos like this in the future.

Ian, I just wanted to say I enjoy your videos immensely. Keep up the great work!

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir, I appreciate it!

Greetings! Referred to this channel by the Black Falcon School of Arms in Colorado Springs to get an idea of the armor we'll be using! Great stuff!

Wonderful video! The fact that you both have covered this topic in such detail is greatly appreciated; it's a much needed step towards fact and getting away from the general public's mythical misconceptions about armor

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks Daniel! One step at a time! :)

@danielthompson6207

8 жыл бұрын

Knyght Errant Yes, and after seeing this we can all be assured that the steps won't be too difficult :P

As a note: The movements of your armor can be slightly comical, but displays the weight difference quite well. The "Jump" comes across more as a "hop-thud", as your vertical momentum is rapidly translated to a rapid descent. Also, Metatron's armor allows a more graceful "lay-down", while your armor seems to be a more cumbersome "drop-thud" onto your back. Your armor looks superb in its stylistic cleanliness, as it avoids the ridges and "fluting" of more gothic designs more commonly seen because of their "style". Very nice video indeed. Having just found your videos (and having a quiet life-long love of medieval armor), I find myself pleasantly surprised by your thoroughness and your attention to detail. Thanks!

First vid of yours, I’ve seen. Liked & Subbed!

Thank you for this demonstration! Quite historically accurate.

Love this video! I am looking forward to the comparison between medieval armour and modern armour.

awesome. i watched the other video first. his explanation for your limited range of motion in the shoulders was because of the Pauldrons, not the Chainmaille's tailoring. your explanation (because you were wearing it) make much more sense. For both, an awesome collaberation and well presented.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, I appreciate it! I hope to do more collabs like this in the future!

Fantastic Ian! A great look at two of my fav armour types.

This is great, thanks for uploading this quite valuable reference!

I found Metatron thanks to your recomendation, nice to see you two cooperating :)

I first saw Metatron's video but thought I'd swing by and drop a like. Great comparison. I still am unsure wether I would be able to wear European armour. The helmet in particular I doubt I could wear due to how it is so closed in. Funny how I have a strong English background yet prefer Japanese armour. But you did dispel several misconceptions I believed about European armour so thanks!

Very good artist reference material! Thank you for making this!

I really enjoyed this comparison, and glad to have found your channel! Subscribed. I liked your recap at the end, very informative. You answered some questions I had as I was watching. I expected a lot more rigidity in your armor for things like kneeling and standing on the stool - impressive to see such flexibility. Your description of construction and engineering choices was fascinating as well as informative - thank you!

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Great! I'm glad you found the video so informative! Welcome to the channel! I think most people are pleasantly surprised when they see how flexible medieval plate armor really is.

Hi, Knyght Errant, found your channel via Metatron. You have another sub. Loved the collab and looking forawrd to watching the rest of your channel. Being of a Germanic origin, I would probably choose the medieval armor, but it seems that the Japanese armor has a slight edge in agility. Keep up the good work!!! Kudos to you.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the channel!

Having re-watched this video again , this is still very good. Protection and Practicality are important considerations as...the wearer has to be able to move and fight. Tournament armour was not only heavier than battle armour but agility was sacrificed for safety. A good suit of battle armour would weigh +/- 25 kilos while a good suit of tournament armour would weigh +/- 50 kilos.

Loved the video, you guys have such great content and subscribed to both of you now. Just a thought on the whole crane being used to lift knights onto horse back. I've seen in some other videos awhile back, no exact source material unfortunately, that during jousting wealthy knights would wear heavier armor in an attempt to keep them from being unhorsed and that this armor specifically might have required a crane or at the very least some assistance in mounting. As I said the video didn't site any specific sources, but did show some artwork, so I have been unable to determine the truth of their statement. Just a thought as to the origin of this whole crane idea.

So basically, your mobility's excellent only hindered by the armpit's section of your particular shirt of maille. It's interesting for mine isn't tailored there as well, but since I reenact XIIth Century, the sleeves can go up freely since it's not "trapped" on the arms by plates on the arms and forearms. Perhaps the tailoring there is more akin to that period due need?

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't surprise me if that were the case. Unfortunately so little mail from before the 14th century survives (and even then most of our extant mail is 15th and 16th century) so it's hard to say for certain, but that definitely makes sense.

this was cool seeing the movements of the two different armors being performed! i really enjoyed that a lot, not trying to be pressing as this was quite interesting, but it would be interesting if you both cut targets with a sword in your armors to see not only how it looks using weapons in armor, but also to demonstrate the different techniques the cultures may have used! this clearly shows that even the full plate armor is quite mobile even with the added weight, as you and many others who have actually warn have explained to me. The only people who have ever said that a Knight in full plate is too slow and clumsy to be a danger are people who have never warn steel plate and were admittedly "fan boys." to the Japanese culture, and as you and Metatron have clearly explained as have others like ThegnThrand... thanks for the video!

_Huge_ props for saying that the similarities are just as important, if not more, than the differences. It's what I think every time: the fact that across most, if not all, cultures we see similar solutions to similar problems is _far_ more interesting than picking at minor cultural differences, especially when they are explicable by availability of resources or differences in fighting habits.

Protection and Practicality. Armour has to protect the wearer but it's really useless if I cannot fight or move. Articulation is awesome. This is a great channel and also Metatron.

I would love to see you 2 do a stream together... no idea what it would look like but I would watch it and donate to it... hell I bet it would be something I could watch weekly

Just wanted to put throw this on here. I know this was far from your intention but you totally helped me figure out a problem that's been plaguing my thoughts with the video game I'm designing. Motion w/pauldron. I didn't even come to this video with that in mind it just seemed neat and got a benefit out of it that I didn't expect. Still an awesome video just facts lol

Good thing you've added that erratum annotation on the Japanese armor's weight. I was very surprised by the weight of it on my first viewing.

I completely agree about finding the similarities between the arms and armors of different cultures to be more fascinating than the differences. I especially enjoy the comparison of European and Japanese implements of war because of the extreme geographic, cultural, and historical differences between the two, which make the similarities all the more intriguing. Thank you for elevating the cross-cultural conversation onto a soundly supported and level-headed stratum. The Japan/Europe comparison is a field that has been trod upon by many, but few have been well-informed enough to plant any fertile seeds. Hence, the contribution you and Metatron made is much appreciated.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it. One of our goals going in was to do this with proper respect to the different cultures and not try to clearly bias ourselves in favor of one or the other which is how I usually observe the 'culture comparison' discussions going; something I find very unfortunate to our understanding of history.

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@samuraijackoff5354

5 жыл бұрын

D E A T H

@theonlyMoancore

3 жыл бұрын

Me when Anri got clapped

@remembernavarro5344

3 жыл бұрын

When you use the stretch out gesture to avoid the boss' attacks

Excellent. I am a Metatron subscriber and now one of yours.

This is low-key a hilarious video too! Love it!!!

Well done. VERY well done. We need to do a better timeframe comparison, as we really don't see the Okegawa style armours well into the middle of the 16th century.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

I don't think 14th v 14th century would be fair to the Japanese :)

@EvilMerlin

8 жыл бұрын

Knyght Errant Oh hells no. Nor would comparing 1550's European Armours against the same from Japan!

Great video! Maybe we could get a comparison between brigandine and these armors someday?:)

Seeing a knight running towards you is fucking terrifying

While I know that it is far outside your usual content, I'd like to hear your thoughts on armor in video games. Maybe something like an evaluation of how it would hold up in the real world. Could you do something like evaluating Fallout's power armor?

First off, great video, the fact that there are so many folks that still believe in the "stumble bum" knight or the "wildcat samurai" is another reason that Hollyweird needs a good thrashing. I especially appreciate the fact that you mention that your armor lacks proper gusseting, something that most period pieces have (mostly because you paid for your own armor and if you were going to get it, you didn't cheap out, as it were). I think it would have been interesting if you showed range of movement with weapons, both styles wee known to be used with polearms and swords, (standard movements such as the overhand chops and side swings (no fancy Hollyweird spins)) but again, very well done.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'm making some big updates to my kit and will revisit a more in depth mobility study including weapons etc. Since I will be focusing only on my armor in that video, I can go a little more in depth, so bare with me for a bit!

Heavier+more coverage=more protection. Lighter+less coverage=more mobility. Who would've thought?

It is so nice to see the channels that I follow working together! One 'like' is not enough!

Hi Ian! i'm going to be taking out my early 16th century gothic/maximillian inspired armour out for a festival for the first time soon. I have worn light armor at a festival before, but never something so elaborate. Do you maybe have some tips for me and other armour-fanatics on how to prepare for wearing plate for a long duration? like for example what to bring to a fair or when to take breaks? I'm planning on wearing it as often as i can before, to at least get used to it, but i'm sure there's some tips that come with your experience XD Thanks in advance and looking forward to your upcoming videos!

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

First you want to be comfortable in your armor. I don't know how much you've worn this particular harness, but it would be ideal if you could work out any of the kinks in the armor that may not be functioning properly or fit awkwardly. I'm not giving medical advice, I'm just relaying my observations as someone who has done this and seen people do this. Assuming all that's good and you're used to carrying the weight and you're not in particularly bad physical condition, the biggest, and most serious factor, is that you even if you're a fit individual, you're going to be considerably more susceptible to heat exhaustion (and potentially heat stroke) if you don't take certain precautions. Water is your friend. You're going to sweat like a pig, no way around it. You absolutely have to replenish your fluids as often as possible. You may even find that you're drinking a lot of water and still don't have to pee because you're sweating so much. Depending on the airflow in your helmet, if it's a particularly claustrophobic helmet you will want to limit helmet time. Historically, people weren't sitting around with their helmets on and visors down for the fun of it, they would put the helmet on when it was necessary because you need to exchange heat with the air through your head. Take breaks often, sit down when you need to, don't tough it out. Pay close attention to how you feel, if you begin to feel light headed or exhausted, take a break and hydrate hydrate hydrate. I always bring at least a camelback type container of water with me.

Thanks for another good video Ian. I appreciated how you made a point to keep viewers assumptions and extrapolations in check. You mentioned conditioning. I was wondering if there is anything written about how people conditioned for the extra weight of their armor? Did they have some type of practice set of armor?

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Historically, at least on the European side, the knightly class would have been expected to begin training in armor at quite an early age. By the time they were in their late teens and beyond, being conditioned to fight in armor should be second nature. I imagine just by virtue of growing up in it, they became pretty accustomed to it. As a modern person I tend to use more modernly traditional methods of strength and conditioning training :)

quite good comparaison but you should test those mouvement with no armor, for us to have a reference of your agility/force without that, and you should test on switching armor for us to see the comparaison (cause your difference of moprhology maybe alter a bit, maybe much your performances)

More or less equally cumbersome. Japanese suit had slight advantage in mobility and European suit appeared more protective.

I watched the original Metatron video at some point years ago, but I've never questioned it after seeing people do HEMA in historical armour.

Hi Ian :) I was wondering if you knew anything about Spanish XVth century armours, I know they existed and had a particular style but i can't seem to find any illustrations or reliable pictures on the internet.. (PS: as usual, video quality is on point ;) )

I look away for 2 seconds and you guys are both rolling on the ground with no context Haha. It was quite hilarious but this comparison is awesome and it goes to show how easy it is to move in armor.

Awesome collaboration, although its too bad that the split-screen videos were so small.

In the other video, Rafaello mentions archery as the reason why his armor has more shoulder mobility / less shoulder protection, so I wonder would your armor actually permit you to shoot a bow or is your range of motion too limited?

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

You could physically do it, but it would definitely not be ideal. You don't really see too many Medieval European archers wearing arm harness until later in the period, and even then it's a very different style of arm harness. The arms I wear are very specific to England and are made to optimize fighting on foot with close weapons.

@donaldsheckler3636

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't archery something knights didn't do in warfare? Crossbowmen were often mercs and the English longbow men were yeomen. The Japanese viewed it differently.

@Daddy53751

Жыл бұрын

@@donaldsheckler3636 I believe you’re correct. If I remember right, I think archers were to a large degree separate units with specific tasking, as was infantry, cavalry ect. Where it seems Samurai were more “special forces”, for lack of a better term, trained and skilled to be proficient across the board.

most interesting to me is that the mail shirt, not the plate is the heavy and constricting thing, speaking of misconceptions about knights armor. It would seem that as a whole the knights armor protects better without sacrificing mobility save for bits that aren't really needed.

Thats a very cool Video. I like the way you compare this over great distance without actually be at the same place. It is a very nice contribution to the internet culture. Small remark: It would have ben much cooler if you bought the same Ikea chair und marked a distance in the backgrund. Would be even better to compare you. As you speak of the things that are in common i see the japanes armor is very close to an european 16th century armor.

This is fantastic. And also.....at this moment there are 1092 likes and exactly 0 dislikes. I find that quite impressive giving that this video already has almost 35k views.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was pretty surprised that the video made it this far with no dislikes yet! I'm sure it will happen eventually, but it's nice to see people are enjoying it!

Liked for the content, subscribed for the beard! Haha, awesome video.

Very interesting and informative video, well done, sir. I've known for a while that European plate armor was not that restrictive but it was interesting to see how unrestrictive it actually was, esp. when compared to Japanese armor. I have to ask, watching certain movements, I can't help but to wonder how much you were affected by the restricted visibility from the helm? In particular, the kneeling on the stool test, going by the way you set your foot down, it looked to me like you weren't entirely sure where the top of the stool was so you raised your leg higher than you would without armor and set it down faster as well. Is this true? I've never worn a medieval helm before so I have no idea of what you range and field of view is like but it looks it would affect how you would be able to perform certain feats of agility.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

You're right, you'll notice that on the kneeling on the stool and even the sitting on the stool I had to take a moment to make sure the stool was where I thought it was before committing to the movement. I have two different visors for that helmet (you'll notice the one in the video is slightly more rounded than the one in the photo I used during my armor description.) The pointier one includes a 'mouth' which aids in the lower quadrant of your vision, but the vision below the plane of your eyes is definitely obstructed. It takes getting used to. I want to do a field of vision video in the future but I want to figure out a way to do it with enough precision that the data is useful.

Without really much of a knowledge in HEMA armored combat, I would assume that the Japanese armor would be more suited for a more... Elaborate close quarters fighting; punching and kicking. I mean, punches don't do much if you're encased in plate, but if your face is somewhat open, yeah, I'd hit it even if it would do nothing but distract. Another thing that my untrained eye spotted was the lack of hand (finger) protection on the Jap. armor. I mean, a gauntleted fist will do a lot more damage than an un-armored one fight punching, but also the hands would be a vulnerable target (in my opinion). Then again, I've no knowledge in how hand protection is performed in Kenjutsu, so... Anyway, great video on a great topic!

Hi Ian. Very nice and informative cross video and above all not bios. I do feel it is important to point out that Metatron made an error at 3:40, where he mixed the lbs and kgs. His samurai armor weighs about 24 lbs which is about 10.5 kg. Which should be about half the weight of your European armor (minus the chain-mail). By the way, how much does your chainmail weigh? This way we have an idea of pound per pound your armor weighs without the extra protection of the chainmail. Thank you for making this video and your other videos as well. All very informative and well done! I have subscribed for future videos.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Is Raff aware of this error? My mail shirt weighs 15 lbs and is included in the overall 60 lbs, for a detailed part by part analysis of the weight of my armor please check out this video on the subject: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2t3t8ikd6-oZJs.html

@mjaster78

8 жыл бұрын

I left a comment for him on his video (I don't have his email). He should hopefully see it soon. Thank you for the link. I am watching it now.

To make the experiment a bit more conclusive, I'd like to see you perform the same movements with no armor prior to wearing the armor. I noticed on some of the movements that their might be mobility issues within the joint or with the individual's posture rather than an issue with the armor itself. Going through the trouble of doing a comparison video without a control group seems silly. Great video thought!

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

When I do an in depth study of this subject for my own armor I will consider doing just that, as I agree. I did notice a bit of over-extension of the back to correct for shoulder mobility limitations in some of the arm movements in the video, but the most important take away with this is not necessarily how it compares to the completely unencumbered body (obviously there will be concessions with respect to mobility in any armor) but how well you retain the mobility necessary to be combat effective. We wanted to get across the point that you're still very capable of doing the movements necessary to fight effectively in armor. I will revisit this subject when I make some tweaks to my own kit and do a more in depth comparison of unencumbered to armored.

I've already seen Metatron's version and posted this same comment (with minor alterations) on his video.I enjoy it when two or more KNOWLEDGABLE individuals discuss, compare, contrast, argue (as in discuss the pro's and con's of a particular subject, not mindless bickering), or otherwise pool their knowledge. It tends (to my way of thinking) to "shake more fruit out of the tree of knowledge" when two or more people have a discussion than would normally be the case if just one person talks about a particular subject. An analogy could be that of describing a house: lets say that you and your Squire are going to describe a house, you stand facing east while your Squire faces north. You each can only describe what you see so the picture each of you alone describes will be very limited; however take both of your descriptions and the picture becomes much more complete.I apologize for writing you a Novel, I just hope to see more collaborations in the future.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and that's exactly what we hoped to accomplish. I know that I could never do Japanese armor the justice that someone like Raff can, and we thought this was a great way to bring that information to the table while being respectful to both areas of knowledge.

Only came here to see the good old comments war in its natural habitat. I am dissapoint.

@HereticDuo

3 жыл бұрын

Weeeaboooo armour sucks, metal always better.. Happy?

hmmm so the differences really arent TOO different. I wold say the extra armor is worth the less manuverability

@camrendavis6650

5 жыл бұрын

Steven Stringer agreed. All the Europeans really had to do in the armor was walk, run, grab, choke, punch or recover. And all that is possible. But I would say Japanese, with their martial arts, little bit more physical and needed more Mobility to fight better. So I would say it's also cultural difference

@jianhaotoh4010

5 жыл бұрын

Not to mention Geographical conditions amongst other things.

@aaronjacobamadorsalazar1934

4 жыл бұрын

@@camrendavis6650 Nah, I practice both HEMA and Kenjuts and there is no much difference on how knights and samurai fight

@camrendavis6650

4 жыл бұрын

@@aaronjacobamadorsalazar1934 I'm talking about armored combat.

@aaronjacobamadorsalazar1934

4 жыл бұрын

@@camrendavis6650 I know I'm pointing out that there is almost no difference on how a knight and a samurai fight because you stated that samurai needed more mobility for their "martial art"

also since the person wearing the armor is different, some during some moves certain armour may look more mobile just due to the person being more agile. Like with the kicks, it just seemed like metatron was more flexible, and thus his kick made the samurai armor look better.

The noise would also be an interesting factor to look at in this comparison.

Sorry +Knyght Errant for being "that guy", but I feel I need to say something about the second part of your description and video; I've been into samurai and japanese armors for years, I don't want to criticize, just share my knowledge. Metatron's specific armor (okegawa dou gusoku= two pieces of riveted lames hinged at the left side like the european anime cuirass) was developed in the 1520s-1530s according to Kozan Sakikbara in his book, although there are some similar armors made of riveted lames that were developed in the late 1400s-early 1500s; this kind of features was mentioned years before in the Taiheiki, (they were called kara dou or kana dou) so we are speaking of the early 1300s until the mid 1300s, and is founded in the ancient Tanko style armor. The rest of the armor could be dated from mid to late 15th century because lames (ita mono or kiritsuke zane) became popular after the Onin war 1460s-70s. The distance between your armor and his armor is about 100-120 years more or left; a similar revolution in armor happened in Japan 100 hundres later by several reason, from mid 15th to late 16th: because conflicts involving all the nation started after the 1460s, because the foundation of japanese armor is lamellar armor which was stronger than maille and didn't need to be upgraded, because metallurgy techniques were upgraded in these years and because of some periods of peace in the 14th century. But the main differences between a Tosei Gusoku of the 16th century from one used in the late 14th was the lamellar vs plate structure. This would have been the kind of harness worn by a feudal japanese warrior in the late 14th-early 15th: Except for greaves and arms armor which are the same or similar of previous period: Breastplates, pauldrons and tassets: s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a0/94/9e/a0949efe5f0e407da8e5059a156f44ae.jpg s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/dd/4e/a2/dd4ea232f8c9c415f69cd11844231dc6.jpg blogs.c.yimg.jp/res/blog-55-b4/rowmoment_boy/folder/563114/96/11016696/img_0 Helmet: img-cdn.jg.jugem.jp/7a3/157259/20130706_634652.jpg www.shingendo.jp/exhibition/exhibition2012-4bujin/201210231109.jpg ueda-soukoryu.com/sliderbugu/images/02.jpg pin.it/NtFdhIj Cuisses: www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/graphics/13graphs/hakamahaidate.jpg www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/graphics/13graphs/oldhaidate.jpg The weight rested on the hips too in the Dou maru/Haramaki of the late 14th, early 15th because they warped the scales in a slight S-shape to force the upper row under the row below it. This is difficult to do with the lacing holding the boards rigidly together. Others laced the kozane together in a slight arc so that if a board from the "nagagawa" were laid flat, it would form an arc rather than a rectangle. When curved to fit the body, this causes a slant that allows the lower part of each lame to "fit inside" the top of the row below it. Sode or Pauldrons and Haidate or Cuisses were fitted to the shoulders and to the legs too, as you can see in those pothos. The helmet was more used as a Kettle Hat. So I won't call the shape and the design of european armor of the 15th century vastly superior, in my personal opinion, which is based on researches and passion. Finally, this kind of armor isn't actually influenced by european design; although been similar to a globose breastplate, the okegawa dou was developed alone without european influences as a direct upgrade and consequence of the nuinobe and mogami dou; as you stated in the video, the problem was the same and the solutions were similar, taking into account context and evironment: this is a european influenced design armor: s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/13/38/e5/1338e50ea3e33ff546512bbe27e18935.jpg And this is metatron's armor: farm6.staticflickr.com/5545/11856629514_e882a0f168_o.jpg As you can see, the difference is clear Keep on going with your beautiful videos, this is great channel. Cheers, Luca

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Ned Kelly's armour weighed around 45kg (around 100 lbs); although some sources weigh the armour differently, there were a total of 4 different suits. It was improvised armour, made from reforged plough shares and designed to be bullet proof. I knew that Kelly's armour was very restrictive and it did not allow for anywhere near the mobility of either reproduction but the weight comparison is still very interesting. :) Great video! Thanks! :D

@elgostine

8 жыл бұрын

if i have heard correctly the reason it lacked leg protection is that the kelly gang intended on shooting down at people from a cliff, as such, people shooting back up at them wouldnt be able to see, much less hit their legs the body armour intended on making it hard for the police to sccessfully return fire

@mattlilly2303

8 жыл бұрын

+elgostine that is a possible intended use. No one knows for sure. It could also be a case of over analysing what probably wasn't meant to be. Although they did try and protect the family jewels with a plate of steel.

@elgostine

8 жыл бұрын

Matt Lilly actually, we do know... the armour was donned in anticipation of a planned derailment of a train and then to gun down thje policemen from the cliff tioop, it failed because their prisoner escaped anf flagged down the train, the policemen got out, and attacked neds hut, leading to his final sho9wdown hence why he was armoured

would've also liked to see a comparison of putting the armors on.

I think the major deciding factor in terms of mobility, especially in a combat situation between the two armours is probably the weight. fighting and running while carrying the extra 30lb of the european armour will sap your strength much quicker than the japanese armour. but that said the extra protection of the european armour provides may be a fair trade off and even up the survivability of the two on the battlefield. (this is assuming the skill level and fitness of the individuals are identical)

Ian, when running in your helmet/faceplate, how have you found your "head control" (for lack of a better term)? It's a fairly substantial piece, and you have this snout coming well away from the axis of your neck - what kind of effect has that had on comfort, vision, and the thing generally staying put?

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

It stays put pretty well because it's fitted pretty well to my head, but what would start to suck is the limited airflow. I'm fairly conditioned to running normally, but trying to suck air through those breathing holes would be pretty challenging if you tried to keep it up for a serious distance. The weight of the helmet isn't so bad if you maintain good posture with your neck, but if you start to let your neck slope forward as a lot of modern people do it's going to become uncomfortable. The vision is limited down by your feet (especially in that visor, my other visor has the 'mouth' that gives you a little more vision down below but not much), you need to consciously scan down by your feet because you can't see well enough by maintaining your vision straight ahead like you typically would when you run unencumbered. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that running in armor is 'easy,' it's not, it's significantly harder and more fatiguing than running in athletic clothes. I run 3 or 4 times a week normally, if I tried to do one of my normal runs in harness I'd quickly overheat, feel like I was unable to catch my breath and get exhausted fast if I tried to maintain an actual running pace. Even with the visor off, able to breathe unobstructed, it would still be an incredible challenge to do much more than short distances. I don't think people in period were sprinting hundreds of yards before trying to engage with the enemy if they wanted to have any energy by the time they got to the opposing line.

I personally like European armor more because it doesn’t sacrifice protection for mobility because it has a combination of both while samurai armor sacrifices mor protection for lots of flexibility Either way great video

How did you two synchronize your movements so well? Were both you guys present when video taping this episode? I'm under the assumption you are in different countries for some reason lol.

@speed_density2827

8 жыл бұрын

scary isn't it

@chadatchison145

8 жыл бұрын

speed_density lol :)

@TheCalcaholic

8 жыл бұрын

Maybe one took the video first and sent it to the other one so that he could sync his filming?

@digitaljanus

8 жыл бұрын

That's my best guess.

@KnyghtErrant

8 жыл бұрын

I live int he US and Raffaello lives in Italy. I filmed my portion of the movements first, and sent them to him so he could copy the basic movements, and then I did my best to sync the two in editing :)

It would be interesting to see a IOTV with all accessories comparison along side the historical piece.

@knobknit6543

8 жыл бұрын

Agree. Considering Ian had a military background,it will be pretty interesting.

I guess one doesn't even need comparison vids to get an idea that dude in late medieval plate armor would be almost invulnerable for samurai unless it's samurai with a gun but samurai armor would be vulnerable since it was created with different threats in mind in different world with different resource limitations.

@eagle162

2 жыл бұрын

No it wouldn't, first off Japan was not limited in resources during this time, the armor in the videos is not that accurate and doesn't show how protective Samurai armor can get, Samurai also had a number of weapons that could deal with armor. Check out: "Japanese Armor Body Coverage Explained" "Defeating Late Japanese Armor - Tosei Gusoku (当世具足)" on Gunbai. Keep in mind both do not go over everything.