Eurofighter Typhoon EF2000 Vs F-16C Viper | Intercept | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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@Midwest.photographer
Жыл бұрын
do AH-64 VS KA-50 please
@lgcyanide2219
Жыл бұрын
@@Midwest.photographer i second this
@lgcyanide2219
Жыл бұрын
@@davidsmith8997 gs write this down
@firebald2915
Жыл бұрын
How is your onboard radar and datalink not picking up the bandit ... ever ?
@SanjaySingh-nl3cf
Жыл бұрын
Q
"Data-link says he is on top of me but i don't think that's accurate" Meanwhile the Eurofighter within visual range...
@krismurphy7711
Жыл бұрын
TRUST DATA LINK. AWACS radar a bit better than F16
@ferdeboergd256
Жыл бұрын
Very rude of GS to doubt the AWACS folks
@GrowlingSidewinder
Жыл бұрын
I would have apologized to them for doubting them if I wasn't dead lol
@kurttate9446
Жыл бұрын
Was GS's radar turned off? It was completely useless in this fight. It didn't even see the Typhoon when it was literally in sight.
@cpthf3535
Жыл бұрын
Eurofighter so close it almost went for a gun kill just to have a laugh
GS: There's no way he's that close to me. Narrator: he was.
I used to be all about your dogfight videos, but lately I'm getting really into your BVR stuff. It's so cerebral and much more of a chess match than the "knife fight in a telephone booth".
@yomarashi8272
Жыл бұрын
Me too. I'm enjoying the brv and special mission stuff a lot more
@GrowlingSidewinder
Жыл бұрын
thanks, ya BVR And dogfighting are all interesting in their own way.
@gregtheegg3576
Жыл бұрын
@@GrowlingSidewinder I'm with N127... because bfm is cool and old school, but as missiles evolve and stealth ramps up the game it's 3d chess fo sho. BTW I totes shared your emotional state during the cat and mouse game. Plus...great long form story vs the merge going 5 rounds. Novel vs short story. Richness.
@MythicPi
Жыл бұрын
The way I see it is BVR is a long range dogfight
@Audfile
Жыл бұрын
More of a chess match than close range dogfighting? I think it's the other way around. Way more going on in a dogfight. BVR is just, fire, defend, fire, defend.
I'd really like to see a tacview look at this fight
@nocturneJOJO
Жыл бұрын
Me too, I was so disappointed when I didn't see at the end. Such a great fight but would have love to see better what was the EF doing (and how close it got before the kill).
"Remember, dropping your tanks is like taking your shirt off before a fight" 🤣
@zymuralchemy
Жыл бұрын
I will never not think of this going forward.
Exactly what I’ve been waiting for: Eurofighter action. I’d love it if you would fly the Eurofighter next time.
@Exodon2020
Жыл бұрын
He did it against two SU-57 and won.
@OoheavysackoO
Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@frasersutherland6837
Жыл бұрын
Eurofighter Typhoon is king!😁
@jdbarnes5987
Жыл бұрын
Everytime he flies that thing he dominates
2 German EF2000 were scrambled just a few days ago to intercept a dutch passenger plane that lost communications for about half an hour. Pilots were able to communicate with the fighter pilots via hand signs and no one got hurt, except for apparently some burst windows when the EF2000 went supersonic over some residential areas.
@nurderbvbabernurderbvb
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, some people here really got mad about it. They dont know what it means if a plane lost or kill the communication, i think, after 9/11 we should be more aware of situations like this. To go supersonic isnt cummon anymore in germany.
@michaelschuerzenjaeger
Жыл бұрын
My windows were vibrating here in Hannover on that day. There was two huge bangs.
@interrestrial9815
Жыл бұрын
When the Eurofighters would come into Nellis AFB for the various flag exercises they were very noticeable. I thought the MiG 29 was loud.
@solarflare2199
9 ай бұрын
Similar happened in Italy 2 years ago , the couple scrambled over a civil Airbus that have lost transponder signal up the Swiss Alps , but they was SO LOW in the first part of their route that they've destroyed buildings glasses , even in schools full of students. I was outside my house lookin at my mailbox , and i literally got my teeth shaked by a double sonic boom , really devastating , i'm pretty sure they was at Mach 2+ . What an experience LUL
@Nightshardyeet
9 ай бұрын
That were the two sonic booms lol. One of the windows in my school gave up.
The Eurofighter sure is a scary opponent. Can't wait for the official module to come out. Great video as always man! ❤
@cathalwalker3308
Жыл бұрын
The Eurofighter is a definitely a scary jet to face up against. People don’t realise how good it is.
@PhilipTrouble
Жыл бұрын
@@cathalwalker3308 The Eurofighter is a fairly capable platform but what really gives it the edge over other 4th gens is the Meteor missile, that thing is leagues ahead of American or Russian Fox 3s
@tex_the_proto2880
Жыл бұрын
@@PhilipTrouble thats why European f35s scare me, im pretty sure they are capable of using the meteor.
That eurofighter was absolutely cooking towards the end with that fly over clip.. sonic boom was what felt like seconds after the jet passed! Impressive
“The terrain will confuse his targeting system”
EF-2000 is a beast of an aircraft, still remember playing EF2000 on MS DOS :) 500+ page manual and all
@paulcooper9011
Жыл бұрын
I first played TFX with the Typhoon, F22 and F117. I think I still have my EF-2000 discs around, somewhere.
Loving the BVR! I think it might be interesting to see some more without AWACS coverage, especially if it was a 4th gen against stealth (maybe f15vf22, or 2xf15vf22) to see how much the stealth interferes with situational awareness of a bandit that has no AWACS
@marxel7225
Жыл бұрын
I think there is a Video out there
I've never seen anything give you that much trouble. I would also love to see you in the Typhoon and the TacView of this fight!
"We'll do it Top Gun style" Sir that is an F-16, you mean "Iron Eagle" style
Nice to know the Eurofighter Typhoon is a very capable weapon
@jedi_.66
11 ай бұрын
It’s like a razor-blade in the hands of a surgeon. Lethal.
Would love to see a rematch with same conditions, but with the new F15-EX vs that Eurofighter.
@NinjaDeathSlap
Жыл бұрын
Was coming here to say this.
@melancholiusmonkey-mann5749
Жыл бұрын
YEEEEES!
@skyhorseprice6591
Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea.
@hamzarauf2357
Жыл бұрын
Eurofighter will surely win cause meteor is a freaking good missile and AMRAAM is just not good enough.
@GokageBlack
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree.. let's get some real radar in here
Typhoon is a very capable opponent. I actually thought the F-16 would fare somewhat better than it did but, that Typhoon radar is just so much more powerful.
so happy to see this channel closing in on 500k subs, you deserve it! keep up the amazing work
@GrowlingSidewinder
Жыл бұрын
Thank you I appreciate you. And thanks to everyone who has subbed
@05councilmember
Жыл бұрын
More than earned it my guy
You ever consider keeping in the tac view plays of the fights afterwards? You used to do it quite often and for single longer fight videos it would be good to see!
@MattH-wg7ou
Жыл бұрын
I agree, I liked that too
Meteors plus awacs plus Eurofighter is a lethal combo!
This fight would have deserved a tacview. Well done by both 💪
That eurofighter used the meteor missile to his advantage to make your radar not get enough time for lock and therefore know his location. Awesome fight
I’ve been watching GS for like 2 1/2-3 years now. This is the first video I’ve ever see where he never had an advantage the entire fight (mostly due to the radar) but still he usually finds a way to somehow get a shot. Good stuff to the other pilot playing that perfectly
@0neBadRabbit
Жыл бұрын
True, he didn't make any mistakes for GS to exploit
Fun fact. Today I saw an overflight formation of three F-35's, followed closely by two F-16's, followed by two F-15's. All at roughly 2000ft. Close enough to see drop tanks, but surprisingly also wingtip Sidewinders on the Vipers and other ordnance on the Eagles. Probably just some ferry flight or training exercise, but interesting nonetheless. Lot of capability in that seven ship formation. More than some small countries entire air forces. And it was freaking loud...
@frankanderson9275
Жыл бұрын
where are you located?
@BeingFireRetardant
Жыл бұрын
@@frankanderson9275 Prefer not to say, but somewhere in the south.
You have to respect the Eurofighter and Rafaele, both great standoff fighter
Man, I love that we can never really tell which video isa win or lose for you. You and Longshot have some of the most intense air BFM videos available. Great editing, great action, genius tactics and education for those who listen. Wonderful job GS.
"It should be coming fro-" i was actually preemptively laughing. I knew you were seconds from death 😂. Another good fight, GS!
Been a while since weve seen the F-16 struggle so much
as powerful as fifth gen fighters are with their stealth, i think the eurofighter is just as scary. the radar, the number of hardpoints, the thrust to weight, and it arguable the best delta wing dog fighter out of its other european peers.
@baronnuuke7821
Жыл бұрын
Rafale f4 entered the chat
@suprvrmedia6235
Жыл бұрын
@@baronnuuke7821 meh, diferent level
@4R8YnTH3CH33F
Жыл бұрын
It's radar would be nullified by the stealth fighters though. BVR it would be defenseless against and F22 or F35. Dogfight is probably a different story.
@s3viking214
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Pirate IRST
@suprvrmedia6235
Жыл бұрын
@@4R8YnTH3CH33F the eurofighter will be the natural rival of the F15 ex. F22 are in other level.
I'm really hoping the Eurofighter comes to dcs at some point!
@Rokhan91
Жыл бұрын
It has been announcend by Heatblur already, theres a trailer
@person7331
Жыл бұрын
@@Rokhan91 Awesome! I can't wait
@adioprotege
Жыл бұрын
Is that not what we just watched?
@TechnoCNB
Жыл бұрын
@@adioprotege A vast majority of the jets you see people play on DCS are mods, from the F22, to the Mig21, all mods
@IsegrimSTP
Жыл бұрын
@@TechnoCNB The Mig 21BIS is the first module done by Heatblur.
I have never seen the updated f16 so outclassed by anything as it was by the Typhoon in this video
That EF sneaked in at what looked like Mach 2 once he knew GS had to defend vs the Patriots 😂 That final shot was so close, could've been a gun kill almost.
You know it's close, but you don't know where exactly.....and a shiver of panic runs up your spine....nice fight!
Thanks for your ongoing dialog. It helps me to understand what's going on.
Absolutely awesome. Love watching your tactics and seeing that you don't make just videos of only your kills. Damn, even so. I wouldn't want to go against you.
WOW !! Just simply WOW. Great video showing the determination from both adversaries. Great video.
You are calmness incarnate. By half the video I would have smashed the keyboard and punched the monitor. Respect.
Amazing vid, your absolutely killing it. Keep it up!
Thank you for another awesome video. Always a showcase for how much of a badass the Typhoon is.
That was crazy. Unreal.!!! I love watching your videos.
words can't describe how good these vids are man. thanks so much
@GrowlingSidewinder
5 ай бұрын
thank you, appreciate you watching.
Fantastic battle. It was like being on the receiving end of a horror movie... is he here? is he there? no, he's breathing down your neck!
Man such an awesome platform the euro fighter is / I’ve always loved the look of it too / just a really nice clean and lean purposeful looking jet with an awesome weapons compliment
Toxic reserved a Meteor just in case and he didn’t fail. Also he pushed you into thinking that his eurofighter run out of missile so you can recommit while he’s getting closer to make that kill. Awesome video.
That horizontal bag-drop at 8:30 looked so rad!
I'd love to learn more about the defensive systems of the Eurofighter, all i know is while not stealth it was designed to minimize RCS and had for the time the most advanced defensive systems and jamming yada yada... so i wonder if all that is giving it the advantage in this fight.
@AKAtheA
Жыл бұрын
it's been specifically designed to fight stealh planes...
@extraordinaaron
Жыл бұрын
nah the f16 radar is just that fucking dogshit.
@jonathanpfeffer3716
Жыл бұрын
@@AKAtheA The aircraft made in 1994 was made to combat stealth fighters?
@jintsuubest9331
Жыл бұрын
Without getting too deep into the physics and speculate about stuff we don't know. There are stuff on the aircraft that can detect incoming radar wave, do quick math, generate its own radar wave that cancel out the returning radar wave.
@SvenTviking
Жыл бұрын
It has a towed decoy that seems to be missed by most sims.
Lovely atmosphere on the video. A great watch =)
Cool still waiting for f15e
@March-man
Жыл бұрын
Yeah its 2 months out and nobody have a video of gameplay its wierd
@dakotahall3414
Жыл бұрын
He posted one ten days ago
@March-man
Жыл бұрын
@@dakotahall3414 but he is not in
Great vid , we always wanna see you fly some more euro fighters too
Been really enjoying you match up against Toxic. Super interesting engagements.
Love to see the tacview on this.
I love that you cut to silence when KIA. That gives real weight and suspense to those videos.
This is where tac view would be really good. I learnt so much from those early vids you did. I can see why you didn’t want an instant re-match, you must have been exhausted.
Well, I give you an `A' for lasting as long as you did, a valiant effort, and some pretty acrobatic flying!
I guess he was a lot closer than you thought.That was a great engagement.Who the hell was the Red Barron?
@DaDa-gp3ll
Жыл бұрын
Having a look at the tail of the EuFi it even was one of the „Richthofen“ guys from Wittmund. So you could say it was the red Barron 😂
LOL RIP. Great video. Pretty incredible considering how often the F-16 is so strong in various engagements. The Typhoon is no slouch!
I haven't been a huge fighter guy since high school. My favorite book as a kid though severely criticized the radar in the F-16 and it's always surprised me when you do BVR with the F-16.
Damn, after all that 4D chess, got boom and zoomed at the end. Great fight
Very good Video👍🏼 maybe more vids with the Eurofighter in the future? Would be very cool
I know at least 70 US Air National Guard F-16C's have been upgraded with the new AN/APG-83. I am curious how fights like this would go with the new radar.
Bro hit the cleanest transition to the cockpit
You should have this as like a streaming service where every Monday night people get into an indoor see you guys fight it out. Seriously.
Still waiting for the F-8 Crusader!! Keep the quality content coming!
That Euro was closer than most of his dog fighting videos!
It's strange seeing a video where the Viper is getting absolutely dominated. Usually it's pretty balanced or the Viper that's doing the dominating
can't wait for the full typhoon module when it comes.
LOL I'm truly embarrassed by how many times I've been watching your videos, not expecting you to get hit, and then all the sudden exploding. That shit makes me jump damn near EVERY time especially when it's out of the blue xD
@zymuralchemy
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this is how GS feels too! Actually our guy's pretty good-natured about getting pasted.
Amazing content as always GS
I love the F-16 so much from all you've shown me. I had no idea it had horrible bvr
It's always satisfying to see GS's talking and then "killed in action".
Dam! Lesson learned on that one. Don't pick a fight with a bully.
Would love to see another F-16 vs S-400 site, not SEAD mission but a normal recon mission with DB-110 and HARM available in case of opportunity hit. Like a mountainous terrain and then another in a open terrain
"situational awareness should be very high" famous last words. You never saw him. Great fight. Well done. Are you going to flip this one? Would be cool.
The physics on DCS are incredible man.
This video really needed a tac-view analysis !
GS i am following your channel for long time now and your every video is awesome
@GrowlingSidewinder
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Marko, much love brother.
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Another proof the fact that no matter how superior the pilot can be, if the fighters are drastically different in technological abilities and levels, then one with the better fighter will win
Now picture this but the Typhoon is in beast mode config with 14 Meteors 🤣🤣
What an amazing fight!!!
"Dropping your tanks is like taking your shirt off before a fight." I DIDN'T HEAR NO BELL
Man those canards on the Typhoon are beautiful
GS: "There is no way he is on top of me" Narrator :" ... He was on top of him"
Hell of a Fight!!
I would like to see more and more Eurofighter videos BVR and Dog Fights too !!
That Eurofighter though…….KING
That was a spicy, little Typhoon.
"Datalink says he's right on top of me, but I don't think that's accurate..." 😂😂😂 Famous last words
Excellent !!!!!!!!!
whould have loved to see the tack vieuw of this fight and learn how the typhoon used it advantages to get the kill
Tacview debrief on this one would have been interesting
BVR or A10 shenanigans, they're my favourite regular GS fights. 😊 I'll never say no to a Mossie but I don't think he's overly keen 😢
would love a quick tacview debrief of these fights
Excellent work by TOXIC!
14:00 famous last words
If memory serves, the typhoon is a 4.5 gen hyper manoeuvrable non TV reduced radar cross section single seater... not a raptor by any means and said to be the honey badger of the nonTV fighters, if the F16 is the wolverine.
Well played while out gunned.
The end was a complete surprise
The blast and the black screen startled me real bad :D