Welcome to the watch list, gentlemen. 🍻

@KulKlas

3 ай бұрын

Hi energetic brother 💥🎉🤘🏼 feel goo to be home! 😊

@jdhill770

3 ай бұрын

I hope our names are touching on the watch list(s) 😂😊

@bencapobianco2045

3 ай бұрын

lol

@user-si6ex2lf1l

3 ай бұрын

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@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

3 ай бұрын

I’ve been on multiple watchlists that I’m sure of for years. It’s not until you get banned from countries or air travel that it becomes real.

Methinks the DuPont patent manager had a volatile sense of humor. Technically correct but practically wrong methods are a great way to troll (or explode) the competition.

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

3 ай бұрын

It’s a pretty common method of patent protection, German chemists have been using it for well over a hundred years.

good morning and thank you !

You, my brother, are frikkin awesome!

So glad you're back Dugan!! Have missed your content and info!!

Excellent video good sir. Just started watching your videos and the attention to detail and safety are heads above other channels i've seen. Keep up the great work

Good bless you Dug. Hope you're well.

fancy new intro you got there 👨‍🔬💥

Thank you for your video!

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

pleasure's all mine

@MrTopsfield

2 ай бұрын

​@@duganashley1337 Thanks for the effort you put in to cover the priceless value of your experience. May we all continue to be able to count to 10 without taking Off our shoes due to the respect we deserve to our hobbies, and may our advice save at least 1 finger

I hope that you do a video of plastesizing this particular mix. I’ve done it with perchlorates and even a little hmtd, but this would be much safer. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. We aren’t worthy. 😊

@ShortFuseMan

3 ай бұрын

Ammonium perchlorate ❲very finely powdered❳ in a binder and plastisizer matrix is surprisingly effective and can be quite powerful. The only issue is, of course, AP’s solubility. So, unlike traditional plastics, AP plastic is not water-proof. However, its performance makes up for that deficit, thanks to AP having a good amount of oxygen to donate to your binder and plastisizer, making them an actively energetic participating constituent of your plastic explosive.

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

3 ай бұрын

Don’t mix anything with an organic peroxide like HMTD, you’re basically asking for a bad time.

Well well well! I’ve been waiting for this and am super excited! Well I was gonna make this once I got some lab glass. But his it’s gonna be a bit longer while I try to under stand moles. Love the vids!

Muito bom, esperando o proximo video

thank you for this class, Dugan. A lot of content here. I will watch it more times to learn everything before even try to produce it. Could you make a video showing you lab and give suggestions about how to build a cheap lab?

Thanks Dugan

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

my pleasure

Love the intro. I do things a little different then you but still everything I saw here is good advice. Nicely done.

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Darian.

@darianballard2074

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337You're welcome. 😁

@plyxxx9073

3 ай бұрын

​@@darianballard2074May I ask? Can CHP (Copper Hexmaine Perchlorate) be used as a blasting cap?

@darianballard2074

3 ай бұрын

@@plyxxx9073 Yes But I would add a little Hexamine or al powder

@darianballard2074

3 ай бұрын

@@plyxxx9073 yes

I love you man ❤

Very interesting and valuable information . Can you make a video about EGDN

I dig the intro

Is there another location that your videos are uploaded to? Like Odysee?

Those shock waves will do that to electronics, they make your gums bleed despite being a vasoconstrictor too.

Epic intro man!

Good stuff, have a sub. Love the "riff raff filter"..lol

Amazing man! Thanks for sharing all this information. Can you please do the PETN ? Thanks a loot

@Polkem1

3 ай бұрын

If I remember correctly in his ETN part 1, I think he said he wouldn’t do PETN, since covering ETN is like kinda like covering PETN since they are very very similar… though I might be wrong on that.

Do you think there may be a eutectic substituting say sorbitol ? Love your chemistry .

Hi again, just thought you'd be interested, 60% Sodium chlorate 30% urea and 10% Al, the mixture can reach 7000m/s is properly prepared. The ratio sounds rather arbitrary but in reality its stoichiometric ratio of chlorate to urea with 10% aluminium excess to complimate general properties., the proper preparation is milling the chlorate and urea together, mixing with aluminium (the mixture is insensitive enough to mill it with all itd components but i wouldnt count on it without a remote mill) then the mixture is plegmatized with 2% wax dissolved in naptha that is then mixed with the powder and then let evaporate coating it in wax which improves pressability of the mix, the mix is then pressed into a paper tube with a 12 ton press nearly identically as to how whistle rockets are pressed. Very very powerful mixture.

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

That's good to know, should I analyze the mix? Related to this topic. Chlorate has low mp so it is very easily activated thermally. The number of oxygens in relation to the chlorine supposedly give it heightened reactivity. Any material greater than ~33% in nitrogen can be detonated as a fuel and the nitrogen will contribute to the energy of the detonation. 7kms seems high for chlorate mixes. I would have to measure that to believe it.

@KClO3

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 I would be delighted if you analyzed it. You are very right regarding the nitrogen, this is further supported by urea usually being a poor fuel but in combination with chlorate it behaves excellently, I have experimented with adding it to chlorate based flash powers in 5-10% to increase power with moderate success. The 7000km/s sounds almost too good to be true but keep in mind you won't reach that unless it's excellently prepared and pressed to a high density like I said before. it will probably still explode as a crude powder mix but it's not gonna have that incredible powder. Very fine, homogenous and high density is key. Thank you for the great comments btw

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

My calculation was based on KClO3 because Im not sure on the valence of Na. So it could be incorrect, but I got +.74 fuel rich so subtracting .74 to NaClO3 gives a new total of NaClO3 72.73 g@@KClO3​

Triethanolamine could be nitrated and be a viable explosive but im trying to find a more specific use case, trimethanolamine would be perfectly OB but the ethanolamine is far easier to come by. Thoughts?

Hey man, Very informative video, what was yield of ETN with nitrate salt method, especially with ammonium nitrate?

A little extra thing I do after nitrations is add the appropriate amount of urea to my quench water, may as well take up all the nitric acid as an energetic, right?

it seems ETN very suitable for secondary explosives

@ShortFuseMan

3 ай бұрын

Depending on your strategic applications for your secondary charge, yes, ETN is ridiculously usefull. For manufacturer of detonators as the base charge, ETN is even more useful, especially if used with the appropriate quantity PETN. You will be able to obtain highly reliable detonators with extreme firing power.

Ended up here from watching general chemistry videos about acid production and stuff...and wow this seems very dangerous. Too scary for me to be honest, I don't think I could do anything like this in a safe manner without first learning waaaaay more about it. You're probably literally saving lives by taking the time to address the proper safety procedures 👍💓. Definitely such a synthesis is not something to take lightly..cool channel please be safe ❤👍

Have you ever experimented with removing the bisulphates from the nitrate salt nitration mixture prior to addition of erythritol? I think this would be possible with Calcium nitrate due to the low solubility of calcium sulfate. Great information here.

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

2 ай бұрын

You can do it with KNO3 if you put it in the freezer but I don’t know how much acid gets trapped in the crystals.

@DashVT

2 ай бұрын

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Thanks for the reply. How much thinner does this make the nitration mixture? And do you just decant off the acid from the bisulfates, or do you need to filter to separate them?

What do you think about using water baths to melt cast ETN in small plastic containers? Very easy to rig a controlled temp bath and operate it remotely. As for long term storage, adding 1-2% diphenylamine by weight massively helps with controlling decomposition products, i always use it in my gelled liquid formulations. I'm not sure how hard its to procure it in the US, but it should be quite cheap for the amounts needed.

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

I think plastic is preferable to glass for safety. Personally, I dont like to melt ETN in a water bath because it takes so long to cool. Most people using water baths actually handle the ETN in melt phase, which I dont do. Small amounts, like whats shown in the video, I do handle in melt phase for small detonator batches. 2-3 g or so, only to remove from heat, not to manipulate. I also wear kevlar. I never handle any actual large ETN charge fillings while molten. I dont touch or move them or even get within 10 meters of them while molten, because accidental detonation would be lethal at 50 g +.

@marknederkoorn4885

3 ай бұрын

For ETN detonators I always used plastic soda straws and plugged one end with hot glue. Then press etn in and then melr it in a 61 to 62 degrees celcius waterbath. Cool down and press some primary on top. Close it up with a fuse and done. Melting ETN will boost velocity a little but brisance(read detonation pressure) is way higher than normally pressed powder.

@marknederkoorn4885

3 ай бұрын

P.S I used lead azide for primary. Only 0.02 gram pb(N3)2 is sufficient to detonate the ETN even whilst not confined(soda straw). The point is that lead azide does not have to be tightly pressed,just a little squeeze and it is solid ,so no real pressure on the melt cast ETN in the straw. They worked flawless and I never had a misfire with them. I still have samples over 10 years old which havent lost any weight yet and shows no signs of decomposition

@sirka45colt34

2 ай бұрын

​@@marknederkoorn4885hello, your knowledge is really very impressive, I would very much like to be able to do the same thing, I find it extremely fascinating and I have been interested in all these dangerous materials for several months but extremely fascinating if you have a guide to recommend to me this interests me a lot. Thanks a lot

Also, what is your opinion on the secondary from mannitol? It seems to be more common in a lot of health stores and in a WROL type situation, it would potentially be easier to obtain.

@brennangalletly6653

3 ай бұрын

nvm I saw you replied to a similar question...

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

I havent made MHN, much of what Ive read is rhetorical opinion. Im not opposed to it at all if it's a common material. I just don't have any experience with it. @@brennangalletly6653

(This may be answered further in the video I've just seen the start) I was under the impression that for this reaction a mixed acid nitration wouldn't yield the full tetranitrate, more the tri and di intermediate?

@ArtificialEquestrian

3 ай бұрын

You should use a times 2 excess of your nitration source to ensure all 4 hydroxyl groups on the Erythritol get esterified to their respective nitrates without any left unreacted. This is made clear later in the video.

Very nice dug. Any chance you could drop that song on Spotify?

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

its PRVNTK

@thaHoncho

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 thank you sir. Much appreciated

Yessss fat beats to start off with, 😊

Does adding PIB to ETN strengthen it?

Music from good bad and ugly😅❤ dear dugan you looking awesome, drop your music please

Where is that last clip from the intro from?

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

3 ай бұрын

Garand Thumb yt channel

Just thought you'd be interested, 50% etn 35% KClO4 15% KHP. Its a super safe non hygroscopic and non volatile nped that ignites with just a fuse. It should remain unchanged virtually indefinitely. Only flaw for now is that you need around 4g to be 100% reliable, just gotta work on the ratios, what do you think?

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

The mixture is somewhat oxygen rich. It may give a higher energy release from the ratio: ETN 46.67 KClO4 32.66 KHP 20.67

I'd like to make a correction as far as chemistry goes. you were obviously right up to the formation of nitric acid, but then the reaction with more sulfuric acid produces the nitronium ion in the last step. the nitronium ion is what does the actual nitrating and is highly reactive, and by producing the nitric acid which forms it in situ, using a nitrate salt slows down the nitration and keeps it from getting out of hand. the water and bisulfate are products from the formation of the nitronium, and they remain in solution with the ETN when the reaction is completed as the main side products.

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

Yes, but trying to explain electron/ion theory, that's not at all my focus. Objective is to explain target HNO3, how it's produced, along with undesirable products. It's correct information, I'm just not explaining the nitronium cat, how it interacts with esters. Purposefully avoided. I suppose it seems like I'm insinuating the nitronium cat is undesirable, because I said in the same sentence the other products are undesirable... oops, cant win them all.

@bfgoalie99

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 yeah, that's what I got from it. I understand your reasoning though.

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

Youre not wrong. Maybe I'm underdelivering. idk. hard to gauge. sometimes people complain I give too much data. Not sure what the middle ground is. I went to college for oil painting, I probably shouldnt be explaining the technical side. Im not a chemist. @@bfgoalie99

@seymourpro6097

Ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 The problem is that someone wants the DIY plan without the theory, yet someone else wants the graduate level theory without the doing it bits.

I like your vids they are nicely detailed. But why nobody ever talks about or even makes Mannitol Hexanitrate? It has a high velocity,8000+ @1.7gr/cm3,superb brisance and is especially good for exploding bridgewire detonators,even better than etn. I detonated a thin layer coat on a standard visco fuse. And on top it has an OB of +7.1% So a little bit of aluminum powder or thermite does miracles.

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

I've never tried MHN. Which procedure have you had success with?

@marknederkoorn4885

3 ай бұрын

​@duganashley1337 I mede the stuff 15 to 20 years ago,before the police raided my home. They don't like people who know,you know. Back in the days I made everything that might explode,lol. But on topic,I have to do it out of my head,but better still. Just calculate the molar masses and calculate ammount of no2 needed for full nitration. I lost all my data after the raid,I wanna start over again,but yeah in the Netherlands it is asking for trouble nowadays I'll go search for the patent,I used that and recalculated the ammount of hno3 65%i needed instead of fuming red. The plus side is due to less pure acid the reaction is less prone to runaway. Hell i never even used an icebath,but yeah thats not smart.

why does ETN look so much like high quality cocaine😂

have you ever refluxed toluene with nitrate and bisulfate salts?

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

I have not

Dank stuff, run linux; keep your data more safe from Government.

Awesome intro Could you make a video about plastic explosives or reliable blasting caps?

Can reaction be mixed with magnetic stirring or is it issue with friction sensitivity?

@ArtificialEquestrian

3 ай бұрын

The reason an overhead stirring apparatus is used is for ease of mixing. If you choose to do the reaction with a magnetic stir bar, ensure you use a large one that can keep the reaction uniform. You don’t want inadequate mixing as hotspots can form in your nitration beaker, which may eventually lead to a runaway if not properly addressed.

36:30 Those are some nice metal caps for detonators, from where you get those

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

post email, i will send you link.

@Lionman-rw7xb

3 ай бұрын

​@@duganashley1337 you have a U2U on SM ;)

@Lionman-rw7xb

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 You have U2U on SM

@Lionman-rw7xb

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 Well youtube delete everything

@Lionman-rw7xb

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 check SM

Sorry, and for TACN (-6.3% OB) and TACP (+14.5% OB) combo mix %ratio ?

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

Ай бұрын

Watch the advanced explosive design stuff and do the math.

does the nitric purity modify any other factors than the time it will take to nitrate ? or can it just make it unable to react at a certain low % ?

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

Not sure, I've never tried below 67.2%

@lmaozedingdong6099

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 ok ty for fast respond, very good video by the way can't wait for the third part. good luck !

Do you have a degree in chem or just doing this for fun?

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

you should see my acid collection

It's okay to use 99.9 isopropyl (IPA) for recrystallization of etn? However for your acid scavenger did you use agricultural grade urea?

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

Yes

@user-dp6my7nn9q

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 btw, for mixing 10% urea solution should it be 10g of urea (46-0-0) for 100ml of distilled water? is this correct solution for the acid scavenger?

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

Water is the material the unit of ml and g are based off of at standard pressure. For mixtures with water, the ml unit is interchangeable with gram. In energetic materials literature when percent mixtures are used they are mostly weight:weight unless otherwise. Agricultural urea contains metals and contaminants that can disrupt sensitive reactions. ETN is not sensitive to these trace contaminants in urea. If producing hydrazine, for example, you probably want to drop the metals out of the urea first for common ag grade. ETN it's not necessary. Likewise you can also use tap water with contaminants for ETN production. Distilled water isn't necessary.@@user-dp6my7nn9q

How safe would ETN be, lets say.. Inside a grenade?

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

A hand grenade? You could do it. Performance wise it would essentially match the base line of comp B. Same velocity. In terms of safety, if it were exposed to fire it would likely just detonate immediately. If you left it on a hot window sill or something, like on a hot dark surface, it could surpass 61 C and then be sensitized. It could then be detonated if dropped while molten. The hot metal body would in that case act as a heat sink to hold heat longer. It's not as safe as I would prefer, but in an emergency it would be an okay replacement. There is also an ETN nypolit where it's dissolved with gun powder which acts to desensitize it. I dont think it would be safe enough for a launched grenade or munition.

The one 5gm PETN booster charge how many kg PETN main charge enough?Is there anyone who can help me answer this.

Quick question, can ETN detonate if it goes into a runaway in the acid?

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

Yes. All nitrated explosives can detonate in extreme runaway. It usually isn't common in small batches. At factory scale it's a more realistic threat. But for ETN, it decomposes at 160 C, and at 61 C it changes phase, and the phase change is sensitizing. It is sensitive enough to detonate from stir bars, stirring rods, paddles etc. So if you get an extreme runaway, you will surpass 61 C immediately, and it will be sensitized, then at 160 C you will get decomposition which is perhaps 60-70% probability of detonation (more than 50%). So I would say detonation is much more likely in an ETN runaway than other explosives, like nitramines or PETN.

@kylehowat6775

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 I really appreciate the response🙌 I’ve had runaways happen to me before and I always stood back from it. It has never detonated on me, but I’ve always been curious if it could.

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

Same here. Ive even tried to cause detonation with wild runaways, throwing plates up to 300 C on RDX. I've never been able to cause a detonation. I think ETN is different because it can detonate from the average temps present in a runaway, let alone whatever effect comes from oxidative runaway or sensitization.@@kylehowat6775

@kylehowat6775

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 You’re a book of knowledge my brotha. Thank you for putting out this educational content out there. I’ve learned a whole lot from you and I will continue to support your channel.

It's there any sense in melt casting the ETN directly into the vessel of choice, e.g. a det cap or a shaped charge, instead of flaking and pressing? Would the contraction upon cooling be a significant issue?

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

I haven't casted ETN in poured molds. I generally don't handle it melted. Practically, It is thicker than melted TNT, and less suitable for pouring. I do think you could melt pour it, it's thin enough, but realistically you would need an automated standoff solution (which is doable but would have to be worked out). 1 g detonation of ETN will remove fingers and hand. At 30-60 g detonation, it will destory/remove hands and arms, bones become projectiles. There is a story of a man who destroyed both hands with melted ETN in solvent. His wedding ring, along with the finger was embedded into the ceiling of the room. It's more violent in explosive brisance force than TNT. Very sensitive melted. From my tests, I'm always "surprised" how little stimulation sets it off. It's less force than primary explosives. It's way too sensitive to manipulate in a mass-manufacture process like TNT for example. Flaking is much safer. If handling melt phase ETN without standoff or automation, it's really suicidal. The only thing preventing death is happenstance that there will be no errors. But in real life, there are always errors.

@Tunkkis

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 Handling it while molten definitely does sound like a recipe for a catastrophe. The story with the wedding ring, is it the one in the "Life after detonation" thread on Science Madness? So then perhaps one could add a predetermined amount of powdered ETN to the final vessel and melt it in place? Maybe more effort than it's worth. Whatever the case, I won't be testing it any time soon. Neither the equipment nor the space to synthesize and test, living in an apartment near the city center.

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

Yes the SM thread story. If I wanted to cast a mold, I would rig up a remote casting set up. If I couldnt do that, I would flake it, fill the mold as a grain, then heat the mold to remelt the flake in place. @@Tunkkis

@Tunkkis

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 Clumps of wet noodles... Certainly an eye-opener. I'll slip this advice in the back pocket, and we'll see if anything ever comes of it. Thank you for taking the time to respond!

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

no problem hope I helped@@Tunkkis

It’s always felt illegal to watch your vids lol.

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

"accelerate"

@mitchiethekid635

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 precisely

When I dilute the mixture in cold water after I’m done stirring for a couple hours, it sometimes gets instantly warm. When I drain the mixture through a strainer, I still get some out of it. Is that a bad batch?

@kylehowat6775

3 ай бұрын

It basically goes into a very slight acid runaway sometimes. I’m just wondering if that ruins the batch that I strain out?

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

2 ай бұрын

@@kylehowat6775it’s fine, acids get hot when diluted with water. Throw some extra ice in to make sure there’s as little dissolved product as possible before filtering.

Cow Bell

Hey Dug, I’ve attempted the mixed acid method 3 times now with very small yields of less than 5%. Maybe you can tell me what I’m doing wrong. I make a mixed acid solution consisting of 4mol H2SO4 and 5mol HNO3 (accounting for acid concentrations). Reduce temp to

@duganashley1337

25 күн бұрын

I would change one variable at a time. First one is to repeat the synthesis the same way, and nitrate beyond 30 min, perhaps triple it. Another thing that people do is allow temperature to rise after nitration to ambient. Lastly if those failed, I would increase HNO3 concentration, perhaps 6 mol equivalent. There is no reason that the reaction should not be taking place if your reagents are true and proportions correct. When I do this reaction, ETN precipitates and rises out of the nitration mixture while making it, before it's even finished.

@unluggy9434

23 күн бұрын

Thanks for the reply, I’ll report back with my findings in the near future :)

@unluggy9434

20 күн бұрын

@@duganashley1337 Figured it out!! The key for me was excess sulfuric acid. The difference was night and day! My yields are now in line with the expected 80-90% others are achieving. Stumbled across the answer when I accidentally dropped an ice cube into my nitration mixture which resulted in the synthesis producing 0% yield. From this result I came up with 2 theories- 1) my sulphuric acid may be tied up in an equilibrium reaction with excess water producing hydronium ions (H2SO4 + H2O --> H3O+ + HSO4-) rather than liberating the desired nitronium ions (HNO3 + H2SO4 --> NO2+ + HSO4- + H20). 2) The excess water (product) in my reaciton shifted the equilibrium of the nitronium ion formation reaction (HNO3 + H2SO4 --> NO2+ + HSO4- + ) towards the reactants, hindering the quaternary nitration of erythritol. Either way, the solution was excess sulfuric acid. I suspect the reason my synthesis required more H2SO4 than yours to achieve the same result was because my sulfuric acid was more dilute than the MSDS indicated, though I have doubts about this as the supplier is quite reputable. What do you think??

@usa5865

Күн бұрын

​@unluggy9434 I came here with the same question. Once dumping into 4x volumes of water, absolutely no precipitate. Same method as you except I kept mine going 1.5 hours. Reaction never got above 12c temp. I believe my HSO4 was 95+% but maybe not. The erythritol was very slow to dissolve.

@duganashley1337

Күн бұрын

@@usa5865 There have been two other people that have had this same issue. All appear to have various sourced reagents. Most of them attempt to increase nitration concentration but have little yield or no yield. I cant say what is going on because I cant see what anyone is doing. This procedure in the video is based off an old method developed in the forums. I have never had a failure to yield 85%+. ETN is insoluble so if you make it, it will crash out. If you nitrate erythritol, with the correct mass of nitric acid at its concentration, ETN will be produced. If you are not producing ETN, there is some problem preventing nitration. anything below tetranitrate is soluble. The ETN should be visibly precipitating out of the nitric acid before the entire addition of erythritol is even finished. It becomes a thick white paste. If that is not being seen, something is wrong.

Everything cool man ?

Do you know of any common errors during the mixed acid route? I followed your method and ratio with 93% sulfuric and 71% nitric but didn't get any reaction, just absolutely nothing, not even a trace of ETN. The only thing i did different was cool the acids in the freezer before mixing them. During the reaction i also noted the addition of erythritol produced barely any heat, to the point i essentially added all of it without the temp rising even a little. I have produced ETN with my erythritol and sulfuric acid before, and the nitric acid was weighed and perhaps accidentally tested on my arm producing yellow spots, so it was clearly nitric acid. Any idea?

@duganashley1337

Ай бұрын

If reagents are known concentration, and the molarity is planned, and if temp control and time are all accounted for, it will produce ETN. Temp is less critical, most temps will give some yield. Time is critical, too little time effects yield. Acid concentrations arent terribly critical to producing at least some yield. If I were getting no product, I would first verify reagents, then verify the correct moles and time are used to react HNO3 with erythritol. Trinitrate for instance is a water soluble liquid, so if you miscalculate and only provide 3 nitrates per hydroxyl, you would produce no ETN at all, only trinitrate.

@somedudewithgrassgrowingou4177

Ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 that was a very fast response for being on an old video. I will consider it, it doesn't hurt to have an excess of nitric acid to ensure enough nitration, at least a little over the calculated molar ratio?

@duganashley1337

Ай бұрын

@@somedudewithgrassgrowingou4177 Yes, I use 5 HNO3 per erythritol, 1.25x per hydroxyl minimum. Also, some people nitrate much longer than I do, some people nitrate for hours.

@somedudewithgrassgrowingou4177

Ай бұрын

Thanks a million for the help. A partial nitration is most likely what happened, the reaction did change but only turned a slightly more viscous and cloudy. I nitrated it for a couple hours so time clearly wasn't the issue. Next time i might even try 6 moles per hydroxyl just to be sure, and if it works i will scale down to more realistic ratios. You are one of the best video creators on this subject in my opinion, not just showing a recipie but actually presenting interesting background information too. I hope you continue to make this content.

@duganashley1337

Ай бұрын

@@somedudewithgrassgrowingou4177 Sounds good. Just FYI, I miswrote, I use 5 HNO3 per erythritol, 1.25 per hydroxyl at minimum. Not 5 per hydroxyl. It will still nitrate with 5 per, but I miswrote.

sorry I asked outside the topic discussed made a urea of nitrate, but when I explode it with tatp detenator, it doesn't explode. Is it affected by the detenator or is my critical diameter wrong? Please answer, please help.

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

Urea nitrate is fairly sensitized. I would typically guess the detonator was not sufficient

@asepasep9151

3 ай бұрын

@@duganashley1337 Is 3 grams enough tatp?

@duganashley1337

3 ай бұрын

I would think it would be enough, but perhaps it was not. TATP is much weaker than HMTD for peroxides. I don't recommend either. I think mercury fulminate/potassium chlorate or lead azide or silver acetylide is safer.@@asepasep9151

@ShortFuseMan

3 ай бұрын

​@@asepasep9151 Years ago, I did work with TATP. I don’t like it for many obvious self-explanatory reasons. Though, for me, what I dislike most about it is the fact that it has low performance, primarily stemming from its entropic decomposition nature. There are numerous primary explosives now avaliable to create that are worlds safer and much more powerful than TATP. TATP is dangerous and can undoubtedly be unreliable. Uronium nitrate ❲colloquial term Urea nitrate❳ is surprisingly stable on its own. I am not surprised that you failed to detonate it with 3g of TATP. If you had sensitized it with Ƽ% by weight quantities of aluminium powder or sulfur powder ❲ideally a combination of both❳ 3g of TATP would have successfully subjected your main charge to detonation. Without further sensitizing agents added, you would need a sensitive booster charge of Ammonal or something similar to make your main charge of UN go into detonation.

@ShortFuseMan

3 ай бұрын

​@@duganashley1337 By the way Dug, did you get my question I sent you under elfmanmd’s comment? Just wondering if KZread shadow-banned my reply or not, I don’t know for sure.

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Bro found nitric acid for $18/L shipped to my door, God bless you sir. Err, ignore the pfp

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

2 ай бұрын

Lol

At no time should nitration with strong nitric get anywhere near 40 degrees due to run away reaction

God can felate me

@duganashley1337

2 ай бұрын

Isnt that what happens?

'promosm' 😕