Etherfields Review - Almost a Sleeper Hit

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  • @shutupandsitdown
    @shutupandsitdown3 жыл бұрын

    Hey all! Quinns here. I'd like to reply to the folks who pointed out that you can, in fact, skip Slumbers, and that there are rules for it in the manual. I also saw some people asking if I had unlocked the "Deliverance" mechanic that lets you permanently remove Slumbers from the game. Mea culpa: I did miss the rule about skipping encounters! I'm sure it was just one of several rules that I missed. However, on investigating my copy of the game I found that (a) only *some* Slumber encounters feature an option to skip them, and (b) the penalty you get for skipping combat encounters is *hellacious*. In the case of the first monster in the game, your deck permanently gains TWO flaw cards each time you skip it. So that's no good at all and it certainly doesn't change my review. As for Deliverance, I did indeed unlock this feature of the game. However, Deliverance is not the panacea that I, too, hoped it would be when I unlocked it. Deliverance gives you the option of fighting a lengthened, more painful battle with a creature to try and remove it from the game forever. However, this involves trying to pick the right Deliverance card from 5 options, and if you're wrong you might just make the battle harder, or, in one encounter, you permanently replace the monster encounter with an /even more powerful monster/. This happened to me. It was one of the moments that made me happy to write a review that was so negative.

  • @maxmustermann9036

    @maxmustermann9036

    3 жыл бұрын

    the cynic I am writing anything negative makes me happy, way to go Quinns xD Thanks for the Disco Elysium recommendation!

  • @BenBroomfield

    @BenBroomfield

    3 жыл бұрын

    DE is ace, I’ve been playing it over the last British lockdown.

  • @DireMcCann

    @DireMcCann

    3 жыл бұрын

    @ Max . I think his point was, he wasn’t having fun, the experience was cumbersome, and the outcome just made it more cumbersome. Mentioning that as a game reviewer is part of his role. I can see how he wrote it, it looks like he’s maliciously being negative for the sake of being negative. I know when I buy a big box game $100-plus, I look for positives to help me justify my purchase, while actively overlooking negatives. And I find myself defending the game in spite of my dissatisfaction. In the end, when my game group comes over, no matter how much conniving I do to get Nemesis to the table, we end up playing Sushi Go or Takenoko. Feedback from friends that have no financial stake in a game, helps me know the actual value of the game.

  • @tommyakesson8858

    @tommyakesson8858

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@maxmustermann9036 Disco elysium is a unique game. Ive played games for over 30 years, and nothing like this one. Note that it might look like a regular RPG (like Baldurs Gate, Divinity OS etc) its more of a point and click adventure game with glourious dialogue and supreme diversity in how you play it. Its a game that embraces failing. You can, if you want, play as a permanently alcoholic as depressed looser... And be rewarded in game for acting "in character". Or maybe you are a racist asshole? The game wont penalize you for it. It will reward you for acting like a racist,of thats the choices youve made. Its also both very funny and very tragic. My only gripe is the ending. It goes from solid 5 out of 5,to having an ending thats more 4 out of 5. Had it stuck the landing it would have been The game of the decade for me

  • @zacharyhancock9660

    @zacharyhancock9660

    3 жыл бұрын

    On the topic of missed rules (because I also ran into "what the heck do I do to add a turn?") To Awaken Realms' credit, the index specifically has "Turn Add Turn" referencing pages 10,15. 10 explains where the card comes from and goes. 15 tells you you can spend hours to take extra turns!

  • @lucario719
    @lucario7193 жыл бұрын

    Reminder that Quinns finished Pathologic 1 before the better translation came out, but stopped playing this game.

  • @TacticusPrime

    @TacticusPrime

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that is definitely saying something.

  • @Rapi2

    @Rapi2

    3 жыл бұрын

    Damn

  • @fnord3125
    @fnord31253 жыл бұрын

    co-op board games need to be fun even when you're failing.

  • @abefroman81

    @abefroman81

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I just had a similar conversation with some of my friends the other day. I asked them, is a game being easy not fun? And the reasoning was, with so many cooperative games on the market, so many of them seem overly difficult. I realize this increases replayability, but that's only to a point. Losing is not fun. In the right circumstances, you can have fun and lose, but losing hours of progress is never, and will never be fun.

  • @estebanrodriguez5409

    @estebanrodriguez5409

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not about beign "FUN" when you lose, it's about beign INTERESTING. I get why some games are "you lose, start from zero"... but if you are in the middle of a story driven game... that's not interesting... that's not even thematicaly apropiate. It would be more interesting if it gave you a minor setback and maybe changed something along the path. Heck, there are games that use "failing" as the main progression system for the game. So when you lose, you get better. Then you go "I'll get it THIS time!"

  • @GambitsEnd

    @GambitsEnd

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@abefroman81 A game doesn't have to be easy to be fun, just not tedious. That's what ultimately killed this game for Quinns, it became tedious.

  • @abefroman81

    @abefroman81

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GambitsEnd I wasn't saying that a game has to be easy to be fun but rather, if a game is easy, does that make it not fun? Take a video game for example of Diablo 3. For the better part of the game, you're thrown dozens of enemies that pose little danger to you, but the fun lies in using all the cool abilities and tools you acquire in laying waste to them. Bosses offer a more strategic approach sometimes, but other times they just require the right amount of endurance and health management. This is the kind of gameplay I'd like to see in some board games.

  • @MrTomlette

    @MrTomlette

    3 жыл бұрын

    This game isn't that fun even when you're winning. For now, it's so "acceptable" for me, that in the days I can't get more than 3 players it's still better than another campaign game that I have around, less rules overhead, quite nice moment to moment gameplay, but if Quinns is right in how this is going to turn out... I don't know. The game was interesting in how it changed from dream to dream so far, so there's that. Hopefully Vasel and some reviews I've read online are right here. Hell, I love Arcadia Quest, and Quinns hates it, so...

  • @Quatchisaurusrex
    @Quatchisaurusrex3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely a fan of Quinn's big box phase

  • @technom22

    @technom22

    3 жыл бұрын

    After the worm phase comes the box phase... what will be the next one?

  • @wyburp7970

    @wyburp7970

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@technom22 If we considerer that there's a trend, I say after worm->box, there's death phase and then emo phase

  • @coverchrg
    @coverchrg3 жыл бұрын

    "My campaign started to feature more fudging than the books of a crooked accountant working at a failing fudge factory on double fudge Friday." Seriously the best quote ever!

  • @lostmarble540
    @lostmarble5403 жыл бұрын

    You don't have to sleep in a cardboard box, Quinns, you can sleep in a bathtub or a large mixing bowl

  • @danielpiotrowski4946
    @danielpiotrowski49463 жыл бұрын

    Yes, but where's the reference pear? I'm lost without it. Yes there are bananas, but how am I supposed to know if those bananas are the same size as the bananas I have in my home?

  • @Zizhou

    @Zizhou

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's those little missing details that let you know the review was done in a dream.

  • @charliedetweiler4298

    @charliedetweiler4298

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Zizhou Wait a sec... The reference pair is Quinn's totem, like DiCaprio's top in Inception

  • @ntheyeti
    @ntheyeti3 жыл бұрын

    That fake outro with the eastender music that you also put in the root review is now my ringtone

  • @jmarcin

    @jmarcin

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's so good.

  • @luigiscazzari4724

    @luigiscazzari4724

    3 жыл бұрын

    Will we ever have SUSD x EastEnders crossovers?

  • @fullbleed24

    @fullbleed24

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@luigiscazzari4724 stream of the eastenders board game when?

  • @iankniel
    @iankniel3 жыл бұрын

    The shot with the umbrella really drives-home the point, and is so satisfying to watch! 😂 Bravo! 👏👏

  • @bobroxshard
    @bobroxshard3 жыл бұрын

    13:09 That is some choice umbrella usage.

  • @DavidtheBard1
    @DavidtheBard13 жыл бұрын

    21:14 My main takeaway from this review is that Quinns' tongue is much, much longer than I ever expected.

  • @JayTohab

    @JayTohab

    3 жыл бұрын

    👀

  • @hermesnoel

    @hermesnoel

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s like a hummingbird.

  • @alwaysplaythegame

    @alwaysplaythegame

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its how he gets all the ladies

  • @antonudd849

    @antonudd849

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alwaysplaythegame it's a family show

  • @reallyidrathernot.134
    @reallyidrathernot.1343 жыл бұрын

    "the the mural in a children's hospital, it looks fun, but it's not fooling anyone: this is a procedure." holy shit

  • @xristosdomini7249
    @xristosdomini72493 жыл бұрын

    "Or if you were looking for a surreal, one player adventure... it's 2020." I really hoped he would just stop talking at that point because it was a perfect line.

  • @stravvman

    @stravvman

    4 ай бұрын

    And I hoped he would suggest an actual board game.

  • @xristosdomini7249

    @xristosdomini7249

    4 ай бұрын

    @@stravvman -- cool...?

  • @LeviStum
    @LeviStum3 жыл бұрын

    "Are you laughing" he spontaneously asks as I'm genuinely laughing out loud.

  • @aussiegecko1892

    @aussiegecko1892

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have never felt so directly talked to in a video than I was in that moment.

  • @3dreamsequence

    @3dreamsequence

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aussiegecko1892 It felt like a true breaking of the 4th wall. I thought he could hear me for a second before realising that's absurd... right?

  • @orignalDS
    @orignalDS3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you invented a new badge, Quinns: "Shut up & Sit Down, categorically recommends...playing a video game instead"

  • @Carighan

    @Carighan

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah for a board game reviewer, that might be the harshest criticism I've heard levelled at a board game yet. Damn. But to be fair I saw Etherfields as an early prototype a long time ago and while pretty, we recognized it was flimsy as fuck as far as the gameplay goes even back then.

  • @gadrill4285

    @gadrill4285

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Carighan Also to be fair, Disco Elysium is one of the best video games so there's that

  • @bobsuruncle5456
    @bobsuruncle54563 жыл бұрын

    OHHHHH I LOVE THIS TIME OF THE DAY

  • @SenseiSoul
    @SenseiSoul3 жыл бұрын

    "Quickly run out of splace" - What's in your coffee Quinns? Cause it smells a lot like Blaseball... Excellent work, thank you for the review! Your discussion of how you'd started cheating to avoid losing progress and suffering through long, extended negative play experiences really hit home. I've been there for sure.

  • @OddtwangofDork

    @OddtwangofDork

    3 жыл бұрын

    I believe Quinns did cover Blaseball for People Make Games recently, if you've not already seen it :)

  • @paulbauman8005

    @paulbauman8005

    3 жыл бұрын

    It honestly sounds like the experiences I've had with Tainted Grail as well...

  • @IsaacMyers1
    @IsaacMyers13 жыл бұрын

    “Is An Car crash” -Quentin Smith

  • @benjaminlefkowitz9463
    @benjaminlefkowitz94633 жыл бұрын

    Can disco elysium get the official su&sd rec- imagine the absurdity of that pear on its steam page

  • @RulebooksForYou

    @RulebooksForYou

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's an awesome idea that should actually happen!

  • @firebrain2991
    @firebrain29913 жыл бұрын

    Quinns: "at just 75 pounds for the core box..." me: "wow that's a heavy box, must be a lot of cards" Quinns: "... plus shipping" me: "oh... money..."

  • @egregius9314

    @egregius9314

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I actually went and thought to myself: 75 pounds? Shipping must be killing!

  • @jonatanrullman

    @jonatanrullman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is this some kind of American joke that I'm too international standards to understand?

  • @JR5745

    @JR5745

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jonatanrullman maybe British?

  • @Lantertronics

    @Lantertronics

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had the same reaction!

  • @UnreasonableOpinions

    @UnreasonableOpinions

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean, it IS a Kickstarter game - at the current rate of escalation one of them will have to hit that thirty kilos eventually.

  • @conradhillman1491
    @conradhillman14913 жыл бұрын

    Great review! My wife and I are several hours into Etherfields and I have noticed the same pros and cons. The dreams are interesting and diversely themed but the first time I realized that the Dreamworld map and slumbers were essentially rinse and repeat I produced an audible groan.

  • @ValkyrieTiara
    @ValkyrieTiara3 жыл бұрын

    This might be THE most savage review Ive ever seen out of SU&SD, and Ive been watching since they were on Penny Arcade. Also holy shit Quinns' tongue is REALLY LONG?!?

  • @goodlookingcorpse

    @goodlookingcorpse

    3 жыл бұрын

    ...Ladies.

  • @XOB89

    @XOB89

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@goodlookingcorpse Time to pop those upper shirt buttons again I presume.

  • @davon1650

    @davon1650

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol, I thought I was the only one who was startled by his tongue!

  • @MichaelBabcock

    @MichaelBabcock

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like he's in a bad mood because of things not having to do with Etherfields. That whole review lacked the substance I've come to enjoy from his reviews and was unnecessarily negative about things he usually doesn't complain about.

  • @aleksandrivanchenko6323

    @aleksandrivanchenko6323

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trianglestri7487 Not sure I got the "compare to rpg", it was mostly compared to Arkham Horror LCG

  • @liampeterson8299
    @liampeterson82993 жыл бұрын

    quinns likes making jokes about being alone because he's never alone

  • @Quinns_Quest

    @Quinns_Quest

    3 жыл бұрын

    i'd like to report a murder

  • @anjovimusic
    @anjovimusic3 жыл бұрын

    When kickstarter board game companies dream of the SUSD effect on their game, but it turns into a nightmare...

  • @grandad1982

    @grandad1982

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except you know they took nearly four million pounds on kickstarter so they woke up from the dream on thier new expensive mattress.

  • @anjovimusic

    @anjovimusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@grandad1982 Yikes! Guess you can't have your feelings hurt that bad with numbers like that :0

  • @HMJ66
    @HMJ663 жыл бұрын

    I feel like "Kickstarter game" should be its own genre at this point

  • @Urek968

    @Urek968

    3 жыл бұрын

    For the big box games I understand that cause most of them are just bland rules and lots of miniatures and the illusion of content. But the thing is some Kickstarter games are incredible but you wont know unless you back it and play it. If you don't back it you will have to pay way more for it or not get it at all.

  • @marrioman13

    @marrioman13

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Urek968 if you define the genre as the game style and not rigidly having actually been kickstarted, it'd be fine.

  • @HMJ66

    @HMJ66

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marrioman13 yeah I definitely mean your archetypal big box high price tag lotsominis games, not just any game that's happened to be launched on kickstarter. Kind of an "all kickstarter games were funded by kickstarter, but not all games funded by kickstarter are kickstarter games" thing

  • @samrutzick7687

    @samrutzick7687

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not wrong.

  • @Creshex8

    @Creshex8

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s the genre with graphic that never suck 😊

  • @AFriskyGamer
    @AFriskyGamer3 жыл бұрын

    I have never heard so much negativity early on in a SU&SD review. I figured this would be a unique video. Yes, yes it was. Thanks for being so open and honest about your thoughts on this game.

  • @cmsmithy1234
    @cmsmithy12343 жыл бұрын

    Quinn’s that Rolodex reference is the oldest you’ve ever sounded 😂

  • @fullbleed24

    @fullbleed24

    3 жыл бұрын

    This boy still dreams of working in an office I can tell

  • @lautaroaguirre5474

    @lautaroaguirre5474

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rolodex was a card on Netrunner at the time he played it, I think that's one of the reasons the word is fresh in his mind.

  • @tomd2666
    @tomd26663 жыл бұрын

    Me: *quietly pushes my receipt for Return to Dark Tower behind the door.*

  • @Jeepllama
    @Jeepllama3 жыл бұрын

    A game about dreams that ultimately disappoints....is this just “Kickstarter: The Game”

  • @RulebooksForYou

    @RulebooksForYou

    3 жыл бұрын

    It didn't have to be that way. If I redo the rules, it will be a totally different game (experience).

  • @scottcameron174

    @scottcameron174

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha that's hilarious

  • @Sporadicus1976

    @Sporadicus1976

    3 жыл бұрын

    I call those work dreams.

  • @FaytTheXpert

    @FaytTheXpert

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RulebooksForYou isnt it a bit to late change the rules if the game is already shipped XD

  • @RulebooksForYou

    @RulebooksForYou

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FaytTheXpert Printable or Shippable, and maybe 2nd Edition?

  • @CrabQueen
    @CrabQueen3 жыл бұрын

    "I didn't feel like playing by the rules" is perhaps the most damning thing a board game reviewer can say

  • @estebanrodriguez5409

    @estebanrodriguez5409

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know, some designers are pretty cool about that, "make it your own" and that kind of stuff... as a person that plays TTRPG a lot... yeaaaah sometimes the "rules as written" are garbage.

  • @falconJB

    @falconJB

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not really, most games are better with a few house rule to customize them to your group.

  • @TeChNoWC7

    @TeChNoWC7

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like it’s more a case of ‘you ruined the experience for yourself, the designers had little to do with that’

  • @estebanrodriguez5409

    @estebanrodriguez5409

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TeChNoWC7 what do you mean? "if the rules lead to uninteresting gameplay, it has a lot to with the designers" Random Encounters are one of those design choices that can be a hit or miss depending on how well implemented it is. If it only leads to combat... it's meant to attack your resources (specially if they don't drop anything when you killed them, or they give no xp). But if lead to different things, combat/parley/trade/information... then you ARE looking toward a better system... and you don't need to change a lot of rules!

  • @andresmicalizzi5420

    @andresmicalizzi5420

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think recommending a videogame instead is way harsher... 😂 😂

  • @yukiminsan
    @yukiminsan3 жыл бұрын

    When people want to make a video game, but they have too many artist friends and not enough programmer friends, they usually take one of two paths: 1. watch some Unity tutorials and put up some walking simulators on Patreon 2. commission an artbook and repurpose it as a "board game" for Kickstarter

  • @brogansmith1342
    @brogansmith13423 жыл бұрын

    Me, with a non-existent sleep schedule in quarantine: lmao I don't understand how the awakening system works irl.

  • @2MeatyOwlLegs

    @2MeatyOwlLegs

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel you... What even is a healthy amount of sleep at a reasonable time?

  • @metallsnubben

    @metallsnubben

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me at 3 AM reading this comment: haha no idea what you're talking about...

  • @vasarat1

    @vasarat1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@2MeatyOwlLegs Go to sleep as close to 10:00 pm as you can.

  • @2MeatyOwlLegs

    @2MeatyOwlLegs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vasarat1 Well, easier said then done I'm afraid. I've tinnitus that keeps me from sleeping until I'm pretty much exhausted. I'm getting treatment but it is a very slow process. But thanks for the advice anyways.

  • @liberalshadow
    @liberalshadow3 жыл бұрын

    How about a xmas special where Quinns and Tom Vasel discuss their wildly opposing views on this game?

  • @tigerpjm

    @tigerpjm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tom Vassel also thought Tainted Grail was great and I curse him every time I look at that game taking up a LOT of room on my shelf based upon his review. So I'm willing to trust Quinn's advice when making the decision to not purchase Etherfields.

  • @JettCYT
    @JettCYT3 жыл бұрын

    Legitimately was looking for a review and couldn't believe in my suprise your video came up, keep up the great work guys

  • @kentsang6405
    @kentsang64053 жыл бұрын

    This is a great review in so many ways. Thank you for the insight and content!

  • @tiskololroar
    @tiskololroar3 жыл бұрын

    The umbrella-bit caught me off guard. Laughed so loud my girlfriend woke up. Now I have to wait until morning to finish the video.

  • @bibiwarmerdam9558
    @bibiwarmerdam95583 жыл бұрын

    I am so glad this review came out after i backed this kickstarter to the max. I have received the game and LOVE it. I want to play every day and the slumbers are a reflection on how well you are playing. If you play well, slumbers that are neutral or positive are added. Sometimes you might get punished for playing badly. The slumbers are those recurring dreams we sometimes have. And there is story in them. I think if you play like SU&SD is doing, you will never find joy in any game. I am so glad wave 2 is coming with 3 expansions.

  • @TheColoneloftruth
    @TheColoneloftruth3 жыл бұрын

    I can only imagine that 0:15 is how anyone in my family feels internally when they see i've brought one of my newfangled board games to play

  • @Shaku89

    @Shaku89

    3 жыл бұрын

    Omg I'm drying :))))))))))

  • @carpemkarzi
    @carpemkarzi3 жыл бұрын

    Great review as always...love and happy and safe holidays to all of SU&SD

  • @MyOwnNameWasTaken
    @MyOwnNameWasTaken3 жыл бұрын

    The art and card concepts looked so wondrous and unique... such a shame that it doesn't hold together.

  • @Mark-OutWest
    @Mark-OutWest3 жыл бұрын

    You guys just have THE BEST reviews. You don't sugar coat anything. You truly help me decide if I'll like something or not. and I love you for it.

  • @LastGreatDen
    @LastGreatDen3 жыл бұрын

    Ending absolutely killed me (as usual!)

  • @Cergorach

    @Cergorach

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think this comment is appropriate right here... Doing art and making stories on LSD is getting interesting results, writing rules on the other hand, isn't...

  • @julieceasar8342
    @julieceasar83423 жыл бұрын

    If I may suggest. "If sonic was catatonic" as an alternate sentence

  • @richie1771
    @richie17713 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing a review of this kickstarter game, you just saved me €100! I hope in 2021 you guys do more kickstarter reviews, because I know a heck of a lot of people want to see your expert opinions of them!

  • @s2102226
    @s21022263 жыл бұрын

    First time viewer here! I usually skip reviews to where I need them to be, aka spam that 15 sec podcast button, but this was funny, brutally honest and succinct! You sir, have earned a subscriber!

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna laugh so hard if Quinns wears that same shirt for the next review.

  • @tmmidkiff17
    @tmmidkiff173 жыл бұрын

    Awesome review, Quinns! One of my favourites you guys have done!

  • @vorpalCortex
    @vorpalCortex3 жыл бұрын

    Great video. You deserve more money for saving me some :) Happy Christmas to you and the team!

  • @AyyyyyyyyyLmao
    @AyyyyyyyyyLmao3 жыл бұрын

    Loved this review! So poinient and expertly delivered. And yes I was laughing at the end, great catch Quinns ;)

  • @uglybadstupid
    @uglybadstupid3 жыл бұрын

    im going through a fraction of this with dead of winter my self, I play alone but i still have fun, well not completely alone i have a few cats to witness my slow downward spiral into madness

  • @Chronocrits
    @Chronocrits3 жыл бұрын

    Just wanted to let you guys know that you’re awesome. My missus and I have been binge-watching your videos this month, and we’ve invested in 2 new board games due to your reviews. Eclipse, and Root. We’re big fans. Thank you.

  • @koshgam
    @koshgam3 жыл бұрын

    9:33 Break down !_ ! You guys are the best!

  • @henrywyrley-birch2917
    @henrywyrley-birch29173 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the best reviews you've done so far Quinns! It epitomised every bit of anxiety this game gives me when considering it's purchase. The umbrella extension and dodgy accountant bit were particular highlights!

  • @jochemhulst3877
    @jochemhulst38773 жыл бұрын

    I love your review Q! (dont know how spell :) ). Question: are you planning to film eclipse second dawn as a playthrough? Im totally lost in the game and would like to see you guys play when you can :)

  • @clemos1845
    @clemos18453 жыл бұрын

    wow - the art is amazing. feels like this could have been a realy good game with some more play testing

  • @somerandomperson8282

    @somerandomperson8282

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah the art does seem pretty unique, at least I've never seen anything like it.

  • @Donmegamuffin
    @Donmegamuffin3 жыл бұрын

    This was a strange episode of Cool Ghosts...

  • @BaronMalovane
    @BaronMalovane3 жыл бұрын

    Eventually ran into similar issues with Tainted Grail and 7th Continent where the gameplay eventually felt like it impeded the fun of exploration and discovery.

  • @schattelux1454

    @schattelux1454

    Жыл бұрын

    exactly

  • @ArtemiyNizovtsev
    @ArtemiyNizovtsev3 жыл бұрын

    Funnily enough, my partner and I have been having traumatic flashbacks to our time with Arkham Horror LCG while watching this video. Needless to say, we, uhh... didn't have the best time with it. But that was an awesome review, Quinns! It brought me a lot of cheer right when I was feeling down, so thank you for this.

  • @bertman4
    @bertman43 жыл бұрын

    Some really fun edits in this review. Very entertaining.

  • @reudorrubin8439
    @reudorrubin84393 жыл бұрын

    17:03 Love your jar of plastic bags, Quinn! Really ties the room together :p

  • @IslanKleinknecht
    @IslanKleinknecht3 жыл бұрын

    Oohh, that stinger took me back.

  • @BBBshow
    @BBBshow3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing review. Im happy that you guys are honest and arent afraid to speak the truth And as always I laughed my ass off :)

  • @munkey8486
    @munkey84863 жыл бұрын

    I really didn't like when at the end of the video I cackled maniacally, just for fun, at him closing the box on himself only for him to ask if I was laughing. Maybe I'm dreaming too...

  • @12345gerrard
    @12345gerrard3 жыл бұрын

    You guys are fantastic I love all your videos!

  • @hipiticlivi7400
    @hipiticlivi74003 жыл бұрын

    I don't like etherfields and I like gloomhaven, but the main criticism Quin has for Etherfields it can be applied to Gloomhaven too.

  • @Hepabytes
    @Hepabytes3 жыл бұрын

    I like how they write 4 minutes of excellent copy for a game at the start of a negative review.

  • @Ascalante80
    @Ascalante803 жыл бұрын

    I cant wait to open my box :) And what a hell of a view from your window. Amazing :)

  • @alexandraleon1915
    @alexandraleon19153 жыл бұрын

    Funny like always and I still thrilled to get my etherfield next year🤪

  • @JerreMuesli
    @JerreMuesli3 жыл бұрын

    When the word "Kickstarter" is dropped, I brace myself

  • @tumest
    @tumest3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent review, reminds me miserably of my time with The Seventh Continent.

  • @ChrisJD64

    @ChrisJD64

    3 жыл бұрын

    7th continent is exactly the game I thought of when he started cheating. It's what we did the third time we failed the first curse in 7th Continent, and then the whole thing became pointless because we couldn't die anymore, half the mechanics became pointless and the game fell apart. We haven't reached that point with Etherfields yet, but I can't see us starting from scratch if we fail one dream.

  • @ErekLich
    @ErekLich3 жыл бұрын

    Okay, I love the continuity nod to the last video :)

  • @hongcuong
    @hongcuong Жыл бұрын

    Hilarious as ever! I love the part where he said "except I would have a friend here...". LOL that part was so hilariously on-point! xD

  • @RuneLar
    @RuneLar3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like Quinns actually won Etherfields by waking up in the real world and not playing the game. Like waking up from a nightmare.

  • @jeremyboughtono2

    @jeremyboughtono2

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only way to win is not to play.

  • @BlackTrickst3r
    @BlackTrickst3r3 жыл бұрын

    A game about nightmares has a nightmarish rulebook, that's really thematic

  • @Krystianus76

    @Krystianus76

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rulebook its ok, clear

  • @slavenkarakas
    @slavenkarakas3 жыл бұрын

    Cool review, did you actually get to the Deliverance part? That kind of fixes part of your issues with the game. :)

  • @northlakeghost
    @northlakeghost3 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate this review! Curious what ya'll think of the retail version of 7th continent. Can't make up my mind whether to buy or not...

  • @reedg6836
    @reedg68363 жыл бұрын

    I backed Etherfields right as I seriously got into playing board games. The themes and art fascinated me, and I had heard good things about Nemesis, so I was excited. Unfortunately, as I was waiting, I picked up Gloomhaven and soon started to realize that I had probably just picked up a better version of Etherfields. On the bright side, the miniatures still look gorgeous, and I can’t wait to see my player’s surprise when I slam one down in D&D.

  • @MissFunnyBunneh

    @MissFunnyBunneh

    Жыл бұрын

    nooooooo two different stories and game mechanics. Both are excellent games! Love both, just hate the fiddliness of both.

  • @donbooger
    @donbooger3 жыл бұрын

    I am about 30 hours in. I started skipping slumbers about 15 hours ago. I still enjoy the game though. I would recommend to Quinns and others starting that the game improves after 10 hours as the cards you purchase are more complex, situational and more powerful then the very very boring starter deck which you will be using for those first 10 hours. At my stage I have pretty much created my whole deck and the card play is more enjoyable then it was 30 hours ago. As far as the review, AR really really overdid the padding to unessesarily increase time played, they did the same in Tatinted Grail as well so its becoming a habit of AR to create a great game and pad it with fluff. The dreams are a 9 out of 10 from me, the slumbers which are sadly 66% of the game are 4 out of 10. I heavily recommend you start house ruling in ways to skip a third to a half of the slumbers. The more time you spend in the dreams and the less in slumbers the more you will like this game. At the moment we just start skipping slumbers with no penalty as soon as we want to, I dont think taking a penalty is a good idea that can certainly balloon into casual imortality. In one play we didnt have time for slumbers so skipped them all and started the dream on setup, skipping hours, it was great. Going forward we will probably just eliminate needing keys at all to open dreams, so you just head to the entrance and get started without doing key marathons to grab them while triggering 5 or so extra slumbers. I think you just need to see Slumbers for what they are, time sinks (I wouldnt even call them grinding as the reward for each one generally does not even undo the damage you take in one) and also ways to test your character progression and set up a few prepared cards for the dream. If you love grinding do the 5 to 10 per dream you are supposed to, if you don't do 2 or 3 then without guilt make a couple of keys appear with magic and set up the next dream to enjoy. So unlike Quinns I like the game but ultimately I would give the same recommendation, do not play the game under the rules given. For reference I gave Etherfields a 7 on BGG after my first 2 plays (8hours). I have since upgraded that to a 9 after 25 hours.

  • @Nove811
    @Nove8113 жыл бұрын

    I laughed when you closed the box and when you reopen and ask "are you laughing" killed me haha

  • @antonvs
    @antonvs3 жыл бұрын

    Epic stuff again!! A huge role model for a 🇫🇮 tuber like me 👍 keep on the good work!

  • @bankuei
    @bankuei3 жыл бұрын

    As an American, hearing "At 75 pounds..." at first I was like.... "that's a LOT of components".

  • @ryanb6074
    @ryanb60743 жыл бұрын

    Had me going at the beginning. I've heard tons of mixed reviews on this, so I was really interested when SU&SD had a review on it. I've been digging story/campaign games so this piqued my interested and I almost backed it originally. I would probably end up playing this solo, and Quinns really nailed it with the "house ruling" everything because I probably would do the same. It seems like Awaken Realms could have had a hit here, but they just added way too much onto it. The dreams sound really cool, but everything else sounds very taxing. It also struck me as odd when Awaken Realms forced in minis on this game, when there are A) not enough minis included to represented all the creatures, and B) you may not even use all the minis. Definitely makes me hesitant to even look at ISS Vanguard with this many glaring errors in this story driven game.

  • @TeChNoWC7

    @TeChNoWC7

    3 жыл бұрын

    The overworld phase really isn’t as bad as Quinns makes out and honestly it’s really good. It might get a little monotonous at times but not very often.

  • @Jesentra

    @Jesentra

    3 жыл бұрын

    The minis aren’t forced into Etherfields, they were an add on, and was explicitly advertised that they offer no game play elements. The core game comes with just tokens, if you prefer to go that route.

  • @ManJackThe
    @ManJackThe3 жыл бұрын

    Loved the ending! 10/10 would dream again.

  • @hamzahsayang
    @hamzahsayang3 жыл бұрын

    Love these reviews!

  • @_ZeroCool_
    @_ZeroCool_3 жыл бұрын

    Are you doing Vampire the masquerade: Heritage review? cheers!

  • @Cpt_nice
    @Cpt_nice3 жыл бұрын

    Very happy to see the return of the "He''ll be back next week" meme

  • @daleburgess6223
    @daleburgess62233 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad this review came out whilst the adverts for this game are still doing the rounds in my facebook feed. Love the minis and the artwork, but you've probably just saved me from a very shortsighted bout of retail therapy.

  • @ouzei
    @ouzei3 жыл бұрын

    Love the umbrella moment at 13:10

  • @Lines42
    @Lines423 жыл бұрын

    Oh, boy. This reflects my experience with and thoughts about the game a hundred percent :-(

  • @Dyrnwyn
    @Dyrnwyn3 жыл бұрын

    Upvote for "an car crash."

  • @marclarell
    @marclarell3 жыл бұрын

    Very enjoyable video as always. Even with all the valid criticism i am still looking forward to playing this. The shape of the board is not a concern to me and my wife since we are always playing board games facing each other. I think that the sideways arrangement of the board elements is the best compromise for this. Small additional note: The Index of the rule book seems to help a lot in some situations like unterstanding what "Add 1 Turn" exactly means.

  • @baxxic91
    @baxxic913 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your honest and entertaining played review😂!!

  • @Soulera805
    @Soulera8053 жыл бұрын

    This review just made me buy the game without question even if he didn't like it! Thank you!

  • @ExhaustedElox
    @ExhaustedElox3 жыл бұрын

    It's okay, Quinns. We miss Paul too.

  • @Ends_Of_Invention
    @Ends_Of_Invention3 жыл бұрын

    Why did the bit with the umbrella make me laugh so much.

  • @TheRealActualPaincake
    @TheRealActualPaincake3 жыл бұрын

    Love the raven kigurumi!

  • @leonfreire8958
    @leonfreire89583 жыл бұрын

    I always felt sad that I had to cancel my pledge. So glad that I can finally not feel that remorse.

  • @richardsaunders9214
    @richardsaunders92143 жыл бұрын

    I can't watch this until I play mine ... I just got it the other day! If it's terrible, I don't want to know. I have to at least a few plays out of it first ...

  • @steven9766

    @steven9766

    3 жыл бұрын

    F

  • @njatgu

    @njatgu

    3 жыл бұрын

    □ (for playstation)

  • @TomRauhe

    @TomRauhe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Alt+F4

  • @drizztcj

    @drizztcj

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you like it, that's great! If you don't, that's a shame. A review is just someone else's opinion, after all.

  • @Urek968

    @Urek968

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awaken Realms games hold their value so even if you hate it you should be able to sell it for more or at least what you got out of it.

  • @DodgerB763
    @DodgerB7633 жыл бұрын

    @Shut up & Sit Down Having played this, do you have any thoughts on ISS Vanguard, same publishes?

  • @rjkral
    @rjkral3 жыл бұрын

    The look, art and graphic design is so superb! But wow what a review. Fantastic film making (cue low lonely choir) and great points. Thanks for the honesty and info and saving us megabucks!

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