Video Chapter Markers: 00:00 - Intro 01:36 - What is EFH, how it works 07:52 - 35mm scan and comparison 06:26 - 120 formats and test scans 13:05 - A note on light sources 16:28 - Xpan and mounted slides 18:37 - My new workflow 21:19 - Pros and Cons 23:13 - Usage Guide 23:31 - Alternative options 27:40 - Conclusion Hope this one helps some people! Thanks, everyone :-) Important links are in the video description, let me know if I forgot any :-)

Such a great complete video. I just found this holder yesterday and was looking for videos of someone reviewing it. Such great timing! Thank you for this thorough review, much appreciated.

Can't imagine better review of this product! Thanks!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped! 🙂

Ordered one the other day, right after seeing this comprehensive review. Exactly what I was looking for...thanks Hashem!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Glad the review could help!

Absolutely brilliant video! Thank you so much for the time you put into this! Will surely buy the EFH. Cheers

You are for sure the most helpful KZread channel related to film. I've just gotten into film recently and your videos have assisted me with starting out and now with scanning at home. I bought a V600 recently but wasn't happy with the results... returned it and ordered things to DSLR scan now. The additional tips with CRI for the light source are really helpful too. Just wanted to say thanks for all the info and keep it up with the awesome channel! Cheers from Canada!!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I'm really glad the videos were able to help you out, and appreciate the feedback! The home scanning process always involves a bit of a learning curve, so stick with it! 🙂

Perfect timing! Going to buy it. Thanks for the video.

Super thorough comparison. Thank you so much for this video!

Fantastic review, I've just ordered one.

Another educational video, ordering as I type. thanks Hashem

A brilliant bit of reviewing !!

Fabulous video - thank you for making it. I bought my Essential Film Holder and pinged a few questions to the address on their website and got almost instant reply back - and not just a one-liner a proper detailed explanation. I'd say that's excellent customer management. I'm using a Raleno 116 light - it's almost a perfect fit for the EFH and am delighted with my new set-up. Thanks Hashem!!

@danielgillen9435

3 жыл бұрын

I am waiting for my EFH to arrive and trying to decide on light source. Looking at your post I get the impression that the EFH fits on top of the Raleno 116, is that the case, looking at size data the EFH looks to big, can you confirm? A photo would be great!

Just ordered one great video thanks!!

awesome review, so thorough. Thanks so much!!!!!

I've been waiting for a more affordable option to the Negative Supply film holders. Thank you very much sir

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Glad it helped you

Good to see the EFH getting some attention. Been using the 35mm without sprockets for a few months and its so much faster than the Lomography holders. Just got the 120 with the guide and no sprockets and it's looking really great from the first few uses. Andrew is also really quick to help out as well with any questions

@Zetaphotography

3 жыл бұрын

Lomo doesnt scan the edges in 120. It was a let down

Good on you for making this video! The essential film holder looks like the way to go! Cheers from N. California!

This is amazing information! Super helpful and just what I was looking for, I’ll be getting that same holder and light for myself!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Glad it helped 🙂

Brilliant videos, thank you

Just ordered mine, thanks for the video

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Thanks for watching it :-)

Thanks for sharing this. I just placed an order.

amazing! you beat me to it! picked one up recently looking to see how it goes / put out a video. cheers mate -- you gave me some added confidence 😊

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ribs! Sounds good, but no more toilet roll? (😁 That was a nice little hack btw). I'll be sure to check out your video when it launches :-)

@ribsy

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm hahaha you know the toilet roll will ALWAYS be there for me if i need it 😂😂😂

Great work on this video!! It came out soooo good 💯💯💯

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks babe :-) Everyone is still waiting on your Minolta review ;-)

Just ordered mine, your review is what convinced me. Seems like the best option on the market right now. Lot of good reviews on it. The guy's website is really informative too

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Heaps of useful info!

Thanks for the really thorough review. I'll definitely keep this product in mind if I decide to get into DSLR scanning.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

No worries! thanks for watching, and I hope you enjoy the process if you do go down that route.

@owainshaw

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm Not having a macro lens is all that's stopped me so far. Any recommendations for a vintage macro lens to adapt to Canon EF? I know the EF 100 is good (I owned one over a decade ago now) but even used it's quite a lot to spend for a lens I'll only use for digitalising negatives.

Great video. Thanks

I ordered one took a couple of months to get here. Love it, would like fly over to Scotland to give Andrew a hug.

@aaa0303a

3 жыл бұрын

Easy, tiger. It's only a film holder ;) But thanks :) -Andrew

Dude amazing video. I didn’t know how much the flatness of your film could affect the result. I’ll definitely keep this in mind going forward. Thanks for the excellent video this was really helpful

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! Glad it helped :-)

Awesome video Hashem! Thorough as always. I'm keen as to grab one - been waiting for a cheaper and quality alternative to the Negative Supply holders.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Yeah I felt like this filled a gap in the market for a lot of people 👍

Great review, very detailed and organised

@pushingfilm

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Ok great video and just ordered the kit. Thanks for the introduction. I’m currently using a epson V600 with good not great results.

Negative Supply is disappointing purely due to price, ill be getting this one due to versatility and price

I have the Negative Supply 35mm and 120 holders and have found them to be pretty good. Some issues around feeding films straight in the 35mm one, but otherwise excellent. The price, however, is a different problem. Given I have a Nikon Coolscan 9000 (almost dead) and an Plustek Opticfilm 120 (also almost dead), the Negative Supply solution is cheaper than buying those again - and better ultimate quality. I have had the same issue with color due to light source that you have, so thanks for solving that problem for me. I might buy this EFH device and see what it can do for me, one benefit being that it looks a lot lighter than the really heft Negative Supply items and won't break your toe should you drop it. Love the classic Valiant in one of the photos.

Awsome I just ordered one with the xpan mask

Keen to see the new scanning workflow from DSLR to finished scan. This seems better than a flatbed and the cost.

Thank you for your indepth video. I appreciate it a lot.

@pushingfilm

9 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I found the information and opinions you provided to be very useful. I opted for the Negative Supply film holder, because I know how frustrating and discouraging it can be spending a lot of time on scanning your film/slides. I have done some of my scanning with my Nikon LS 9000 ED film scanner. It does a great job, but it is a slow process. I'm going to try using my Sony A7R IV camera with the new Sigma 105 DG DN Macro lens and the Negative Supply film holder. I also ordered the LED light that you recommended. My scans should go exponentially faster with this new setup. Thank you for taking the time to provide such a great and informative video!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Sounds like a great setup :-) Glad the video helped

Thanks for the excellent and timely review. A solution like this will motivate me to shoot more film! p.s. I immediately ordered the 35 and 120 masks.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! That's a good thing :-D

Comprehensive video, thank you and Yes, a 6X12 mask would be nice.

Bought the kit instantly. Exactly what I've been looking for. Good that I didn't buy something else.

@SISSI_LU

3 жыл бұрын

Same! Added to the cart now

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Nice man, I'm glad! It's great that us home process people have more options now 😁

Watching from thePhilippines, sir. 🤩🇵🇭

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Greetings from down-under 😁

Just bought the holder, after seeing some scans on the Negative Lab Pro Facebook group and I see that you upload a review. Weighed a few options and decided to go with this. A lot cheaper than the crazy Negative Supply option.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

That's for sure!

A fantastic video Hashem and you have a great presentation style. I will be ordering one of the EFH units tomorrow. I purchased NLP last week and the bug has bitten me as I have thousands of 35mm negatives from the early 80s onwards, many developed by myself. I have been using V600 and have had mixed results (and so slow) but after playing with NLP, its full speed ahead. Thanks again (Im in lockdown in Melb as well). Cheers Kevin.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Kevin, Thanks so much mate, I appreciate it! Sounds like you have a lot of work ahead of you there haha.. but I guess this a better time than any for tasks like that, especially for us Melbournians. I have at least 100 rolls that I need to cut and sleeve 😅

So glad I found your video! This product looks amazing for scanning my 35mm work primarily. For someone who has researched, researched, researched and spoken to countless professionals including labs, printers and other photographers this product looks very promising. Heck I even bought the product pretty much straight away (which I never do). Very well made video too! thanks, Madhava.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

So glad the video helped! 🙂

Thanks for the great review and bringing this new product to our attention. I have been considering the Abdi FC-35/120 and wonder what your thoughts are of that product.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks man! Unfortunately I have no knowledge on that product and only just found out about it through your comment! I would have to look into it more before giving my full thoughts. From a quick look though it seems interesting, but I do like that the EFH has the diffuser (which was pretty instrumental in allowing me to use "generic" video lights and getting my results)

How did you find this! It’s amazing 👏🏼 Thanks for sharing it to us!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

I first found out about it after seeing Andrew post his own results in Facebook group! No worries 🙂

I've had mine for a few months now. I love it.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Nice man! What light source do you use?

@JammiYork

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm lightbox and Speedlight.

@JammiYork

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm Here's a light to a video of my setup. facebook.com/jammiyork/videos/10156984681157046

An incredibly useful video - thank you. I've been looking at the EFH for a while, but your review answered pretty much all my questions - not least the "curly film problem". The only remaining question is how easy is it to load a single negative?

Excellent video thanks. As you said.... simple design but effective and I like the look of the LED light boxes, methinks it's time to put the LED downlight back in the lounge ceiling :-)

The light source comparison was really interesting. You were talking about color changes but what jumped out at me was what looked like glare on the two poorer ones, as if the first two images had been taken with a polarizer at inception. But look again at the seat cushions, even the Viltrox-sourced light does something odd to the seat that's not present in the lab scan. In fact that comparison was the only one where the lab scan looked the best IMO.

Recently purchased Taiwan's Skier Copy Box III, and it's seems like a good solution with great light and quality metal holders, all in one. It has just a little bit of quirks and the price is acceptable too. However, it doesn't hold the 120 film completely flat. There is a little bit of space between the two plates for the film to be able to pass through. I wonder if it's similar for the Essential Film Holder?

It's nice to see another 35mm slide option.

Thanks - really useful. I have been DSLR scanning film for about 5 years using my old Epson neg holders over a tracing table light with a Nikon D810 - the 120 was troublesome as its hard to get flat. I have ordered a EFH which looks to be just the job. I hope a 5x4 mask is on the way but I can always improvise for that format.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

Great great great video, I love that you still put videos out like this, because I think they really help the film community. I'm gonna buy it as soon as I scrounge some money together. Btw, super super professional video, then all of a sudden...."It's like comparing chocolate to shit!" HAHAHA. That was unexpected and hilarious.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Hahah yeah I let that one slip and just left it in 😅 Thanks for the support man!

Hey Hashem! I really love your channel and your vibe. After this video I decide to buy the EFH. I was also wondering if you could do a video on your workflow from scanning to archives? I always struggle about shorting scanned pictures from different sources and I was wondering how you do it. Keep the good works!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Jean, I really appreciate that. I'm always glad if the videos can help even in some small way. My system for organisation is okay, but not the best. I'm still trying to refine it, as it's gotten me in trouble sometimes trying to find old images. Once I have a good, demonstratable system, (from start to finish), I definitely plan to make a video on the subject!

Please do an updated video of your worflow for scanning film with a DSLR.

Thanks for the review Hashem. It's likely one of the best reviews I have seen online about such products. Thanks also for putting some very visibile work into it to share the info with us. That holder seems to be a very good value proposition. There are few points that still puzzle me after that review: - I keep seeing people comparing with Epson scanners without really using the scanners to their full potential. Many of us use ANR glass holders or wet mounts which would mitigate a lot of the issues you mention. That scanner will allow you to scan up to 8x10 (LF people are not being forgotten). You also totally omit the benefit of ICE which is a real time saver for color film. I think someone like Nick Carver gives a good idea of the Epson scanner true potential. Granted it requires more training and better holders. - I think you draw improper conclusions on dynamic range in the video. People really need to understand that it starts with the sensor capabilities of your camera vs your scanner, and recent digital camera do not offer as much dynamic range as scanners (cambridgeincolour.com has a very good article about it). Unless you use calibrated targets there is a good chance no video review like this one will be able to show anything in terms of dynamic range comparison. And judging this after grading the acquired image won't necessarily help. - You highlight few times how good film flatness is but I struggle to see how it's achieved through spacers only. Unless I misunderstood, there is no apparatus to pressure the film and keep it really flat like ANR glass would do or by creating some tension on the film as NS holder seems to do. - The film advance part is very quickly discussed. I understand your point about digitaliza plate creating potential scratches but advancing or pulling the film with fingers is not really the best approach either. By the way, adding a 3rd party anti-static brush could be a nice add-on. - I really like your points about the quality of the light pad. One thing that bugs me is adding another diffusion panel on top on the diffusion panel these pads have. I would also question if that plastic diffuser could not affect the colors coming from a very good CRI light pad. I would be very curious to hear from you about these points as you review is really going in the right direction for me. As a last point it would have been nice to have a visual summarizing the various solutions with features, benefits and price to put everything into perspective. Thanks again for the great video.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks Nico! 1- I see what you mean regarding flatbeds. You definitely can get better results with wet mounting and things like ANR glass. But for me, that is way too much hassle and I can't justify the cost. I shoot a fair bit of 35mm and smaller 120 formats. I have seen Nick's videos (he's the best!), and wish I was as conscientious as him and selective with my shots! I still plan to keep my flatbed, as it can be great for things like 6x12 and longer panos, and sheet film etc. I still don't mind it for proof scans on smaller formats. ICE is another nice advantage of actual scanners though, as you mentoned. My main aim in the video was to compare holders 2-My conclusions on dynamic range are something perhaps anecdotal, as I have always seen it in my testing of lab scans vs my Canon 5D IV. I have even personally used Frontier SP scanners, tested comparisons by pulling shadows and highlights from both and the modern camera sensor has a clear edge. The only thing I found better was scanning my own film on a Flextight. So in a practical sense, it's a win for me. Perhaps a lot of it is skewed by the baked in difference from the scanner profiles, contrast, and compression... but again I'm looking at it practically and how it affects my scan+print. 3. In regards to flatness I'm afraid only Andrew would be able to explain the engineering side of it, but I think it has to do with the 0.5mm channel and the fact that it's even on all four corners. Now of course it won't be as flat as a linear flextight scan, drum scan, or even well mounted film on glass... but again for my practical purposes, it's clearly better than other common methods I've used. I even borrowed the betterscan ANR glass for a while and couldn't deal with the time taken (again, volume. I shoot mostly 35mm and 645) and things like Newton rings. It was very frustrating for me personally, but I know it's fine for others. 4- I see what you mean, and an anti static brush could be a good addition! But I still felt better running it through that smooth plastic surface with the emulsion side up, than other methods I've used. 5- Again, my results are anecdotal, and for the technical information I'll have to fall back on Andrew and copy the information from his website: The diffuser is " SPECTRUM OPAL 1TL2 material, which is optimised for white light, and for consistency of light transmission across the entire sheet. The 1TL2 grade transmits 51% of light across the entire spectrum, from below 380nm to above 790nm - that’s the entire visible light range for humans" I'm glad you asked these questions, I know a lot of other people may have had similar curiosities. I hope I was able to shed some light on most if it. I think we can definitely agree that everyone's workflow and needs are going to be different! And therefore ,its great to look into all your options and find what suits you. For me it's an an ongoing journey, and my home scanning process has come a long way since I first tried it in 2013 😂 Thanks for the point about the summary also, and for watching the video! I appreciate the feedback

@toulcaz31

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm Thanks a lot for the quick feedback. Despite those questions I did not necessarily disagree with your overall opinion. It seems to be a very good value for money product. Maybe he could come at some point with a more elegant advance apparatus and better looking screws but that would not keep me away from considering such product. Maybe getting some distributors would be good for him too to make sure there is more regional support available.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Hey no worries man! didn't take it that way at all :-) It's funny you should say that! I was actually imagining recycling the advance mechanism or rewind spool out of a spare camera, ot even just setting it it to the side while scanning haha... I'm sure something more neat and engineered would be possible though, especially because the design raises it up above the table.

Wow nice product. Negative supply was always too expensive in my view. I have something similar home made that I use with a durst color copy for digitising negatives. Brilliant machine because it has colour filters for the light and people give them away as no one uses a camera to copy slides anymore.

These holders looks quite nice for that price. May be i buy one for 120 film when i upgrade to medium format. At the moment i use a glassless filmholder made of polished aluminium from my Kienzle enlarger. Enlarger filmholders can be bought for little money on ebay and they hold the negs very flat too.

I bought the pixl-latr for exactly one use-case: Scanning 4x5. There having the negative lying flat on the "light source" (the diffuser) might be the way to go to keep these large negatives flat. For other formats it is far too complicated to handle efficiently, the EFH should be better for everything smaller than 4x5. [Update: Ordered the EFH, looks like a good solution for my needs!]

I just got my holder and it's really amazing. For anyone who doesn't have a full-frame DSLR and a macro lens, I get really great results with my crop sensor Nikon with 35mm lens using extension tubes I bought off amazon for £20.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Good to hear you're getting the results you want. It can be quite a jump up in quality and speed compared to other options.

@loubenii

Жыл бұрын

I have an APS-C sensor DSLR and just purchased the 55mm Micro-Nikkor 2.8 to use with an extension tube. Pretty set on buying one of these film holders after this video as well 🙂

Thanks a lot for your thoughts. I just received my EFH a week ago and maybe I will find some time on the weekend for first tests. Up to now I used a Plustek scanner and it worked quite well. But I will try some medium format shooting in the future and that's why I purchased the EFH. A question about Negative Lab Pro: Are you only using it for color negatives, or for b/w, too? Does it make sense to get Negative Lab Pro for someone like me who mostly shoots b/w? Thanks, all the best from Switzerland and take care.

Seems like what's incredibly important but rarely mentioned is how to get flat negatives. When I get C-41 film processed in the lab, it comes back perfectly flat and I have no issues in my Digitaliza. When you have severe curled/cupped negatives like the color film you showed in the Digitaliza, I doubt any holder will hold that flat. Sometimes my B&W negatives processed at home cup, but it's not common. Love this topic. This product looks great.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

That's true! A lot of it is inherent to the film stock itself, the base type, how long ago it was manufactured and sitting in a can/roll, then in the camera... and of course what happens during and after processing and drying. The colour rolls you see in the B-roll of this video in the digitaliza were developed by a lab. In my home process results, I definitely see that some film stocks curl and cup more than others! You're right, it's a whole interesting topic in it's own right! :-D

Thanks for the great video. Is the diffuser 3mm thick? My LED lights are so bright I'm not sure if a 3mm thickness would be okay.

Thats really at a good price compared to all other options

This looks interesting. I was going to get the film attachment digitiser by nikon but I'm not sure if it will hold the film flat.

So far I use the digitaliza mask and what is quite good except for this dirt that has formed on the edges. Looks exactly like your video. I wonder if you can scratch the film with the EFH because you pull it through 2 plastic plates. is it possible that something like this can happen?

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

In my testing I didn't notice any scratching (I mean on a micro level, it very well may be happening, as with handling and processing film) But; 1. The plastics are super smooth compared to digitaliza 2. There's no pressure, clamping and potential rubbing 3. The 0.5mm channel that feeds the film is enough space let the film freely run through (I'm yet to find films with a particularly thick base to test. But the gap is adjustable) All in all, I know I impose some dust and scratches with any handling, but this (load shiny side down!) definitely gives me peace of mind.

Is there a difference between the Raleno and Viltroxi Video lights regarding light brightness, quality of light, costs, and ease of use plugins in or charging up? Great video thanks, FW

Hey man! Love the content! I just so happened to have the kids xa t same video light lol. But curious how you have it supported on the bottom to make it a level base since the on off switch and control knob are raised. Are you just yaing a battery to keep it level? Or plugged in and using a frame or something

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yeah it just always sits flat on the battery

I might of missed this but what colour temp and brightness are you using on the Viltrox?

With the light source when scanning color film - If you know the white balance of the light source you are using you can simply adjust your camera's white balance to correct any color shift due to the light source.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

It's not that simple I'm afraid! I too thought this for a while, before reading into it and getting information from other people's testing. Besides the actual colour temparature of the light, the source actually has an ability to illuminate colors in your negative differently across the spectrum (in my test they are all white balanced for the film base) There's some really useful information on this in the Negative Lab Pro Facebook group.

Hey man, thanks for the video! Your review was actually the reason I ordered the EFH. I have to add though that while the product might be a brilliant tool, I do have some troubles with the support/shipment. To keep it short: Andrew Clifford made a mistake by shipping it to the wrong address and was not willing to correct that mistake. This might not be an issue for people within the UK but something to be aware of if you order from europe or even further away. I know you only review the products but I think it is helpful to have some insight on what happens after you placed your order and what support you can expect.

@pushingfilm

2 жыл бұрын

Hey mate, glad to hear the video was helpful and sorry to hear that happened! I actually had a similar issue when I first got mine (although it was the couriers fault) and Andrew was quite quick to help me in correcting it. I've also had plenty of support in having collaborated on this review etc. It's not that I only review products... but my insight about my specific dealings in this scenario wouldn't really be that helpful, since my situation in receiving the unit as a sample years ago (before the current level of popularity) is very different as a KZread reviewer, as opposed to someone purchasing the item and going through the normal avenues. For that situation in would be more helpful reading overall reviews of that brand or asking the experiences of people who've recently purchased it.

O use the digitaliza with little “pads” to make it higher in the same v800. And came much, much more sharper.

Fantastic video as always, thanks for you thoughtful review! Have you ever considered using an off-camera flash for illuminating your scans? I understand that strobes have a cri rating of 100. Flash also allows for a high shutter speed and high aperture without having to run a high wattage light source. I’m considering replacing my cheap eBay light panel with a flash in a box below the film holder.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

I have thought about that! I would need to find a way to rig it up easily, but I have heard that this would have the advantages you mentioned

@gordonlewis7570

2 жыл бұрын

I have tried this approach. Although off-camera flash is powerful and daylight balanced, the main problem is that it's non-continuous. This makes it difficult to focus and frame accurately, especially when the depth of focus is so narrow. You can get around this problem by rigging a focus preview light, but in my experience it's simpler to use a bright, continuous, even, daylight-balanced light source to begin with.

You just saved me $2000 on a Nikon Coolscan 9000. I can't believe how amazing these results are

@Zetaphotography

3 жыл бұрын

what gear are you using. Does it cost the same as a Coolscan 9k

@PASquared

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zetaphotography Nikon D7200 plus a Macro lens, both of which I already had before I restarted shooting film. These days that is about a $700 combo. Will be upgrading the camera soon because it is about time, and will be upgrading the macro lens because it is an old 105 f/4 Ai-s, not the sharpest or best macro lens

is there a difference with the Nikon ES-2 Film adapter?

Amazing video, I was wondering, does the light box come with the package or so you have to buy that separately? If so, what is the one that you have in the video? Many thanks!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, the light is separate. You can use many different types, even a tablet screen etc. I have some info in the descriptions and recommend the raleno or viltrox ones

How much light does the diffuser suck up? Can I use the film holder without the diffuser?

Ive been scanning negs with my Nikon D810 / D 850 for years with a holder I built my self in 2017 that looks very similar to this one. I guess I should have made a business out of it. I would 100% recommend using flash when scanning, its far more powerful and better then any continuous light. I have a made my diffusion box based on a Durst / LPL Darkroom Enlarger mixing box, that's the ultimate even light. Forget these LED light tables.

i was originally going to get the digitalliza because i was not a big fan of the EFH, but your point made me change my mind, i didn't even take into account how much contact there was between the film and the holder, that's a no no for me! can't believe i didn't realise this sooner 😂

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was a definite downside for me! Another problem was when trying to use them in the flatbed, they wouldn't be at the correct focusing height and had to be modified to raise the negative up a bit.

@utai4571

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm oh i see, they definitely look like an elegant solution, but the more i see the same type of holder, the more i see the hassle of using them! Thank you for your video, it definitely helped me making my decision!

Is there any advantage to using the more expensive name brand Kaiser Slimlite as my light source, over the more economical Viltrox or Raleno, which are rated at CRI 95+ ? Would I get a better result from the Kaiser?

A comparison with digitaliza+ would be interesting

@pushingfilm

Жыл бұрын

Not sure if I'll get a chance to try that, but I feel like they're very different in approach. If I do try the Lomo myself some time, I'll share some comparison points. Karin Majoka recently put out a great video on the new Digitaliza if you're interested though.

Could you please do a review of negmaster? Love that software for converting negatives!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't heard of that one! Will look into it 🙂

Another thing about the negative supply. They recently came out with a 120mm model which is a good thing if you shoot 120 a lot. However, making another separate unit would be impractical to own given with the price of the 35mm unit and having to own both just to digitize both formats.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

I see what you mean!

Hi Hashem, great review! 0:14 into the video the EFH is put on top of a light source, is that the Viltrox L116T? Does the EFH fit within the frame of the Viltrox? Thanks.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙂 It does!

Any idea how the results are compared to a Hasselblad Flextight X1?

I am very glad that there have been more and more negative feeding products coming out since the lauch of Negative Supply last year. I will definitely wait for another 6 months. There will be more, better and cheaper choices out there.

@Zetaphotography

3 жыл бұрын

$99 what cheap do you want. There are cardboard solutions for DIY.

Excellent video, really super! The one thing about the design that jumped out at me from the first seconds - why the wing-nuts? I'm no designer but neodymium magnets would so obviously be quicker to lock the mask in place and add to a cleaner design.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I don't know for sure (you'd have to ask the designer) But, my thoughts are that with the wingnuts you can adjust the amount of tension to suit different situations. Sometimes there are particular film emulsions that are thicker/denser than others for example, and being able to loosen the plates only slightly would aid in feeding the film.

@LaughingStock_

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm I'm sure you are right. The designer is no idiot and is no doubt aware of neodymium magnets as one type of solution, but maybe inappropriate for this application.

Great video, Hashem. I'm wondering how you keep the Viltrox L116T level when you put the EFH unit on top to scan? I was thinking maybe leave it in the box to keep it stable and level, but I think with the battery pack in place, it probably wouldn't fit. Any advice most appreciated! Cheers, Doug.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, for me it just sits flat on the batteries I use. I then level the camera using a mirror

Great video, thanks. I just received my EFH after watching your review. It is a great product but I find the only con is that it doesn't guide the film on the sides. Nearly all the 35mm film I scan is in strips and when I first received it I was unable to persuade strips to go through. I had to loosen the screws a bit. I find that every frame as it is pushed through has to be juggled up and down to get it centred, this adds quite a bit of time to the process. Lateral guides would improve the performance. I guess I'll get used to it.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, it should actually have a clear or white guide layer, as with mine in the video footage. Unless you maybe bought the special borders mask, without getting the regular mask?

@ckelin13

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm Hi, thanks for replying. I have just had a look and there is a white guide layer but there was a slight bend in the old 35 mm negative strips when I tried to push them through emulsion side up, they were not engaging. I have tightened the wing nuts a bit more and tried again. I find if I insert them shiny side up then they engage and go through without problems, emulsion side up still gives issues. I have captured shiny side to camera before and had no problems (and you don't have to flip images afterwards) So I may just do that. Thanks, I have subscribed to your site.

Thanks for sharing info re: this product. Since I shoot 2 different 120 film formats (645 and 6x7) would I need a separate mask for each? Since the window used to capture the image needs to match the size of the image

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, no probs! The 120 mask does 6x9 and all smaller formats (not masked all the way to the sides. The EFH homepage link under my video will explain it a lot better than I can (including photos)

I just received my Mixlator but have yet to try it out. I need to get a good lightbox or video light before I can test things. It looks like a good product though.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Nice, I'm really interested to see how it works in comparison

Great review! You may have said this and I just missed it, but what temperature and brightness settings are you using with the Viltrox L116T? The colors in the comparison look great!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nate! 5600K at 100% yeah I'm loving the latest update man, I especially find the new profiles useful (like the gamma correction one) for tweaking misbehaving colours when you do get them, especially blues.

@natejohnson6245

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm Awesome thanks! And stoked that you are loving the NLP 2.2 beta... just fixing up a few things and then should be ready for everyone soon :)

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

@@natejohnson6245 I meant to say the Gamut correct profile earlier! (all four seem effective in their own way but I like what that one does to blues and reads on some films) But yeah that's great, I'm looking forward to the next release! (I'm still on 2.1 btw... I should jump on the 2.2 Beta)

@natejohnson6245

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm ha, yeah, I knew what you meant! I've renamed that LUT to just "Natural" so users have a clearer idea of what kind of colors to expect. Huge improvements with curve engine in 2.2 - can't wait to see what you think!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

@@natejohnson6245sounds good! I'll try and reconvert some and compare 😁

In reference to your light source comparison, how did you use the Viltrox video light as your source since it does not have a flat back? Did you build a frame to hold it horizontal? Do you have any recommendations for light pads/boxes that would give correct color rendition, diffused light, and won't break the bank?

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

With a battery clipped on the Viltrox lies flat :-) That one, and the rechargeable Raleno unit in the video description are still my recommendations currently... but there are probably a lot more on the market that I don't know about!

Interesting. Can you or anyone supply the dimensions of the product?

This is awesome! Wayyyy cheaper option than Negative Supply who charge $500!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, that's money for a good lens 💰😁

Just ordered one. Now I have to invest in a macro lens. I think it will still be a better option than buying a quality scanner for 35mm and 120 film.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

It definitely can be if you have good components and workflow!

I just use two pieces of museum quality glass to avoid Newton rings. I sandwich the film between the 2 pieces of glass and use a black piece of paper that I have cut in the dimensions of the film as a mask. It's simple, fast, cheap and it holds the film absolutely flat. I use a light table hence my light source is already diffused. I hope this comment will help people out there to save some money and actually make better dslr "scans". Peace ✌️

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

I've tried a method like this before and although I found it was great for grabbing individual frames, it took much too long for entire rolls (especially 35mm!) How long does it take you to do a whole roll?

@panagiotistsiverdis

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm I guess using a dedicated film holder must be faster but I want my film to be as flat as can be. And I don't think there is a way to make it more flat than using glass. I have even considered wet mounting techniques but these are really time consuming. I scan a 35mm roll in about 30 minutes but I'm so having OCD when it comes to film scanning! I re-check the focus on every picture. I use a 10 sec delay. I meticulously blow away any little particle of dust. I guess that the scan-time would be well into the 10 min ballpark if I was less obsessed with perfection.

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

@@panagiotistsiverdis fair enough man! Glass is going to be the flattest in a physical sense. I found that I wasn't meticulous enough, and would trap even more dust in there. Sometimes I do multiple 35mm rolls including my partner's! so this method works for me. If I'm needing an even better result for particular frames for a (big) print, only then would i consider the glass sandwich, or simply use flextight by rental at my lab. In terms of cost; buying proper museum or ANR glass, and a good light table that doesn't need diffusion is still a cost, and not that much in a different league. Shooting film is an expensive habit, but luckily there's ways to fit most budgets 😁

@panagiotistsiverdis

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm I totally agree! And the beauty with all creative work and especially with film is that there is not one single best way to do something. Everyone in the end finds the workflow that fits his/her needs and style. I don't develop that much film, maybe 2 rolls per month, so time is not a serious factor in my workflow but I totally get your point of view. Anyway, I just discovered your channel and I'm hooked. Keep up the good work my friend! Greetings from Greece!

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

@@panagiotistsiverdis for sure! And thanks man, I appreciate the support! Can't wait to visit beautiful Greece some day 😁

Have been watching this video 3 times now and I'm really thinking about ditching my Epson flatbad in exchange for this. Question, do you use the 100mm canon marco? And what color profile do you use on the images that you import in Lightroom? For Canon, my images normally come in with Canon Standard color profile, but my guess is that you have to use the NLP profiles?

@pushingfilm

3 жыл бұрын

I know how you feel! I bit the bullet and just sold my V800. I use the 100mm Macro L 2.8, and yeah I have definitely been using the NLP camera profiles! Outside of scanning I usually use the Adobe standard profile or other ones such as "film" presets etc.

@eccojammed

3 жыл бұрын

@@pushingfilm Thanks for your reply! Already ordered the EFH so i guess my flatbed scanner will be on ebay soon... ;)

Is the Logan LED any good? Do you have a link to the product page?

@pushingfilm

6 ай бұрын

I think it's been discontinued. I wouldn't recommend it for scanning though... the Viltrox or similar would give much better value/performance.