Escaping the Thought Trap

It sometimes seems we are trapped by our thoughts. We will look at how the Buddha considered thoughts, both in their general character, and also how he saw obsessive rumination arising and proliferating in the mind.
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  • @federicoandrademarambio2913
    @federicoandrademarambio29133 жыл бұрын

    There are no enough words to express how immensely grateful I am for this video. Thank you Doug, thank you so much.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome Federico, so glad you found it helpful!

  • @Giantcrabz

    @Giantcrabz

    13 күн бұрын

    Seconded :)

  • @k.k.2749
    @k.k.27493 ай бұрын

    The part about misperception of identity at 12:45 is very important to understand the core of buddhist teachings! Thank you very much for the video. It is much appreciated!

  • @Giantcrabz
    @Giantcrabz13 күн бұрын

    Well articulated. Gives me some hope as an atheist caught up in cravings and aversions, mental proliferations and junk. May Doug and his loved ones be well 😊 🙏

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    12 күн бұрын

    Thanks, very kind of you! 🙏

  • @gplol284
    @gplol2844 жыл бұрын

    Doug, thank you so much for doing this, i recently feel an interest for buddhism and you are teaching and helping me a lot, i literally binge-watch your videos!!! Really, thanks a lot!! ✌🏼❤

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    4 жыл бұрын

    You’re very welcome! Glad they’re helping you out!

  • @paulh2468
    @paulh24684 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. I've been a Buddhist since the 1980's, but this has helped to fill some gaps in my understanding.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Paul, glad to hear it. 🙏

  • @autodidacticasaurus
    @autodidacticasaurus8 ай бұрын

    I like this case study type of video. This one is precisely what I'm dealing with. A psychopath is harassing everyone in this apartment complex and it's landlord's 24/7 and I've gotten into a pattern of thinking about it all the time which I have a difficult time stopping. I actually spoke to a CBT therapist about this and they had nothing to offer but continuing to practice mindfulness and displacing it with the present (which has been my primary focus for months already anyway.) Your video here gives a different perspective which, if I understand it right, comes more down to acceptance instead of attachment to outcomes and then ethics. The latter I've had no problem with but the former hadn't occurred to me with respect to this particular problem yet.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    8 ай бұрын

    I hope it is helpful! There aren't easy answers in these sorts of cases.

  • @autodidacticasaurus

    @autodidacticasaurus

    8 ай бұрын

    @@DougsDharma Yes, it was a good answer which got me re-motivated. Starting tomorrow, I will redouble my efforts and prioritize this. I'll also be focusing on calming and relaxation as well. Thank you for your help.

  • @logikgr
    @logikgr Жыл бұрын

    Although many people think that the H.A.L.T. (Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired) technique is for only persons in recovery, I've found it useful in my everyday life as a way to quickly probe any unpleasant thoughts or feelings that suddenly arise throughout the day. This leads to me KNOWING "Okay these thoughts arose because XYZ and that's okay. I can do ABC to alleviate that train of thoughts." In my daily life, I've found that usually when one of those four parameters is out of whack is that causes my mind to generate negative thoughts. Hungry? I eat something small. Angry? I practice 4-7-8 breathing a few times, even while doing work or another activity. Lonely? Call or text someone, talk to the nearest person, listen to a video like this one. Tired? Get more sleep or take a break and nap as soon as possible. Coffee, tea or energy drinks might help in the moment, but do not help with getting in the habit of getting enough rest.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    Жыл бұрын

    Good advice, logikgr. Thanks!

  • @Giantcrabz

    @Giantcrabz

    13 күн бұрын

    great insight. I also struggle with bouncing between exhaustion, lonelineness, hunger, boredom, etc and focusing on the breath is a good way to recalibrate

  • @toni-6673
    @toni-66735 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    5 жыл бұрын

    You’re very welcome!

  • @timnitz2654
    @timnitz26543 жыл бұрын

    "What you feel you perceive" - I love how ahead of his time the Buddha was in terms of understanding neuroscience. “Perception and hallucination have a lot in common. You could say that we’re all hallucinating all of the time, and when we agree about our hallucinations, that’s what we call reality.” - neuroscientist Anil Seth. While I think Buddhism takes it too far that all of what we think of is real is actually mind/ideas (do I have that right?), I agree that much of what we think we perceive is actually projection. And once you see that in yourself, you become much more humble in your beliefs.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well the notion that all that is real is mind is not common to all of Buddhism. Indeed, there is some dispute as to whether that's at all what even the Yogācāra school really meant. (They are the Buddhist school perhaps best known as being "mind only" though again this is disputed). The Buddha doesn't seem to have taken any particular position on the issue, though I think he tends towards a kind of realism. I wrote a paper on this awhile back which you can find at my academia page.

  • @realdaybreaker8013

    @realdaybreaker8013

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, Buddha was much ahead of his time..... He was preaching about his experiences he'd had with the mind, trying to understand the nature of thoughts and figuring out a way to calm those..... While the progenitors of other great faiths were busy making false claims about the nature of universe.

  • @dinafachin4391
    @dinafachin4391 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful, so well explained, and thorough. I practice MBSR, and we usually get to these during silent retreats. A gentle and firm reminder on feeling tones and the workings of the mind. Thank you, Doug!!

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    Жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome, Dina! 🙏

  • @realdaybreaker8013
    @realdaybreaker80132 жыл бұрын

    I still suffer with intrusive thoughts, this is adversely impacting my sleep cycle and focus.... This has been going on since my childhood.... I couldn't overcome this problem, meditation just makes it worse, sometimes I feel like taking a sleeping pill or consume alcohol to calm my mind, but too afraid to do it

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry to hear it. You may want to ask your doctor for a reference for good, professional psychological help. There may be something straightforward that you can do to overcome the basic problem. Then it would probably be beneficial to find an experienced meditation teacher to help as well. All the best! 🙏

  • @ConexionHumanaOficial
    @ConexionHumanaOficial5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much excellent teacher. This class is more than marvelous to me, you have helped me a lot. Blessings. Lotus for you. Evangelina Cortes.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and commenting Evangelina!

  • @Sereneis
    @Sereneis9 ай бұрын

    Thoughts can be neutral, and they can be obssesive too, like innocent memories can be. They are for me, and they exhaust me too.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes in that case meditation can help.

  • @maggiealena
    @maggiealena3 жыл бұрын

    If my opinion means anything, my thoughts are we tend to try fooling ourselves many times, think. Honesty in one's life is the root of change. Just like selfish people covet all the time and will share only too their own benefit, to curry favor is one example. We have to change our heart (mind, soul) to benefit. Doing things with wrong intentions never produces a good end result. I'm a chronic depressive. PTSD I'm under a doctor's care. Have been for what seems like forever, but self reflection as we meditate helps us see the dangers in our personalities and how we preceve of our selves and others, if that make sense. I think I have come a long way in identitying these traits in me, though not specifically these issues. I have never been a person that has craved (covet) things or what someone has. I'm not greedy, self, self centered, to the contrary. My family is wealthy, but I shun that wealth because they us it against me and I would rather do without then dance to there demands of me. Not going to go in detail about that, but I'm my own person and I will live my life on my terms as much as I can. If we do this I will give you that kind of thing. There has to be a balance of life without resentment and we should take responsibility for this. Being truthful in our actions thoughts is so important. Remembering this has help make me a better person, in staying honest with everything in my life.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's right Margaret, thanks for your message and be well!

  • @rajivbaisoya4292
    @rajivbaisoya42923 жыл бұрын

    the Buddhism most important concept explain of craving and unhappiness with own thoughts

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes it's our own thoughts that are the problem in Buddhism.

  • @AndrewPreston2
    @AndrewPreston23 жыл бұрын

    Hi Doug, I'm enjoying your channel's content. Thank you for making these videos. They are very helpful. :D

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you're finding them helpful!

  • @soterobahia
    @soterobahia5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Doug

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome!

  • @tomlowe628
    @tomlowe6284 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Doug!

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tom!

  • @someoneelse6618
    @someoneelse66183 жыл бұрын

    Sadhu sadhu Thank you for all the wisdom!

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome, thanks for the comments!

  • @djmileski
    @djmileski4 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful to hear this. have had many inclinations in regards to this but to hear it articulated is helpful.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear DJ!

  • @addiepowell716
    @addiepowell716 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. I’ve been debating whether I want to follow the path of the Buddha for a few months now and your videos have helped me make the decision to fulfill a wiser kinder and less stressed life.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful, Addie. Thanks for the comment!

  • @SamBellGuitar
    @SamBellGuitar4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    4 жыл бұрын

    You’re very welcome Sam!

  • @pacman470
    @pacman4703 жыл бұрын

    19:30 - this is VERY TRUTHY, I probably dint listen to my own guidence(cause I never know where the healthy conscience end and where the fear starts) - and push the boundries of the counscience too many times - it eventually came back in this form

  • @awsomrapper
    @awsomrapper3 жыл бұрын

    These videos are flames

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, I hope they're helpful flames anyway!

  • @awsomrapper

    @awsomrapper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DougsDharma yea, flames are good

  • @gerhardbraatz6305
    @gerhardbraatz63052 жыл бұрын

    I am new to mindfulness meditation and I have become aware during the day that my mind is often making judgements which I suppose is coming from all the wrong ways of thinking in my past. I think this constant awareness of judgements is some sort of progress but I'm not sure. This is a quandary, not having guidance and attempting meditation on my own.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well it certainly sounds like progress for sure, if you're aware of some aspect of your ordinary thinking that you hadn't known about before. Now, how does it make you feel? Is it pleasant or unpleasant? What thoughts accompany it? It's a place for investigation.

  • @wilsel1394
    @wilsel13943 жыл бұрын

    I really like you Doug, thanks x

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you kindly William! 🙏

  • @RP-mm9ie
    @RP-mm9ie5 ай бұрын

    Thanks 😢

  • @kunalgulati3358
    @kunalgulati33582 жыл бұрын

    Thoughful video, you explained the teaching well👍👍

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Kunal, glad you found it useful! 🙏

  • @Ozeanruderin
    @Ozeanruderin4 жыл бұрын

    Doug, if you allow me a question: On one hand, the scriptures state that the Buddha found these teachers the most dangerous and heretic, who denied the existence of a free will and considered life basically predetermined (like Makkhali Gosala), - one the other hand, he states that all thoughts and things arise due to the circumstances alone ... "if this arises, that will be" ... nothing is by itself, nor has a "self" (Anatta) - everything is dependened and ephemeral (Anicca), so it is empty (Sunyata), which causes suffering by clinging to it (Dukha). So ... at times you agree that the mind is more like a computer, doing its thing (Input - Output), without control, which has to be discovered by meditation; at other times you state that we have a choice in everydays life. Could you do a Episode an the issue of "Free Will"? Do we have a free will, has Karma a relevance or is it all up to "the grace of god"? ...

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    4 жыл бұрын

    I did an earlier video on free will in early Buddhism, check that one out and see if it at least begins to answer some questions for you: kzread.info/dash/bejne/epplp5tqqa7aprQ.html

  • @josenando_
    @josenando_3 жыл бұрын

    Did you notice that the way he speaks, he inhales a bit of air before talking? I wonder if this is a technique or something to speak more confidently and expressively. I saw other people doing that as well, will search later :)

  • @originhealing
    @originhealing3 жыл бұрын

    What about being obsessed with enlightenment? Going to retreat after retreat. Obsessive meditation practice to hasten insight. Listening to more teachings. I think this is why Zen talks about letting go of the desire for enlightenment

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well it depends on the case. If someone really is dedicated to attaining enlightenment then that can be a good thing too, so long as they aren't "over-efforting". Certainly that's how the early teachings tended to portray it. See for example: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jIily8SFfbyXfLA.html

  • @timnitz2654

    @timnitz2654

    3 жыл бұрын

    Moran, have you heard this term? "Spiritual Materialism". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_materialism

  • @MrSimp75
    @MrSimp754 жыл бұрын

    I lot of things are focused on mind and analysis of it. Very few are focused on translating thoughts into action and managing actions.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, that's where the precepts come in MrSimp75. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZKKEzLahnpe-otY.html

  • @MrSimp75

    @MrSimp75

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DougsDharma There is a difference between thinking and acting. For example, all the mindful thinking goes out when say practicing Marshall arts (to put it mild example, other examples can include executive meetings etc.) I am looking into Shaktism and Buddhism, the nexus if any.

  • @gregflockerzi330
    @gregflockerzi330 Жыл бұрын

    I’m trying to learn about Buddhism and I couldn’t help but notice you look like Ryan Reynolds but in like ten years

  • @pacman470
    @pacman4703 жыл бұрын

    14:20 I never thought that, I actually wish I could - in my view unfortunatelly nothing is this way, I feel like being lost in the foggy forest trying to mimic people who I see, who eventually when I ask don't know where theire going, but feel something during the road.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well do your best pac, we all have to start somewhere. 🙂

  • @raffaelelaserra573
    @raffaelelaserra573 Жыл бұрын

    Is It safe to be generous and kind in nowadays world, where others try to screw you up only to preserve their interests? Thank you

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure, generosity and kindness is the bedrock. But you also have to be kind to yourself, which means not allowing yourself to be walked all over.

  • @tasospanagiotou7823
    @tasospanagiotou7823 Жыл бұрын

    If I have understood it well the reason that negative or obsessive thoughts are persistent or keep coming back is because we are resisting them. If that is correct do you think that being mindful of negative thoughts is preferred compared to trying to remove them? On the other hand, being mindful of the bad could reinforce the bad, couldn΄t it?

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    Жыл бұрын

    In being mindful we learn to let go and let be. It is a long process however!

  • @frankm.2850
    @frankm.28504 жыл бұрын

    Doug mentions a sutra where the Buddha introduces his teaching to a layperson. I'd like to read this sutra (and possibly take the course) but he doesn't seem to have linked to it in the description. Anyone know which sutra he's referring to?

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't recall what the context was where I mentioned the sutta in this video, but I imagine from your description that it was my course on the Introduction to the Buddha's Teaching. That revolves around the Upāli Sutta (MN 56), so that may be what you are after. The course is over at onlinedharma.org.

  • @snookydidit
    @snookydidit Жыл бұрын

    What do you think about the utility of papañca as a means of design, planning, or facilitation? On a practical side, I imagine a bridge builder might utilize the nature of papañca as a kind of energy source to be thorough and consider every necessary element of a place and design in order to build a bridge in a particular place to stand safely for a number of years. On a less practical, but culturally valuable area, art. In art's many forms, isn't papañca a good explanation for the means by which a composer or a painter conceives of a work, builds and destroys parts over and over, considers, and finally executes an artwork? When I have sewn okesa, considering the properties of the material within an allotted work period is seldom adequate, and without applying effort--that is feeding the thought as it may arise--insights come. And so it is as a composer (which I have also studied.) Do you think that poorly utilized, or left to run amok, papañca also explains an important aspect of anxiety? In conclusion, do you suppose papañca may have a positive aspect in addition to the somewhat negative connotation we can read in a term like, "over thinking?"

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    Жыл бұрын

    I get your point, sometimes we need to think a lot about something for us to get it right. Papañca though is I think partly understood ethically: it's usually self-absorbed thinking that has no real goal to it. It's just obsessive thinking and ruminating over matters that aren't helpful to us. Sometimes we have a problem at work (as you say, building a bridge or something) that needs a lot of analytical thought. I wouldn't consider such thought papañca.

  • @williamcallahan5218
    @williamcallahan52183 жыл бұрын

    it's the seeing that frees.... J Krishnamurti

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's right, a very deep seeing.

  • @williamcallahan5218

    @williamcallahan5218

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DougsDharma an unobstructed seeing

  • @yolandacroes5491
    @yolandacroes54913 жыл бұрын

    I’m really enjoying your videos and learning a lot. But I’m old fashioned and learn more by reading pen and paper books. Can you please recommend an introduction into the Buddha’s life and teachings, from a secular p.o.v.?

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm ... I'm not really sure about that. There are several good intros to the Buddha's life and teachings but they're generally traditional in scope. The problem is that if you're going to do a thorough history of the Buddha, you're going to have to get into some stuff that's not very secular, since it's in the early suttas. I did a course on the Buddha's life over at onlinedharma.org/ that's relatively secular, but it's not a book, unfortunately! You might want to check out some of my videos on books since I do discuss several that are good intros. Here's a link to my books playlist: kzread.info/head/PL0akoU_OszRjBKHxKj98qtSmcLpBmDWkL

  • @yolandacroes5491

    @yolandacroes5491

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DougsDharma thank you. I’ll check them out.

  • @Giantcrabz
    @Giantcrabz13 күн бұрын

    The rat race in Atlanta certainly feels like being in a hamster wheel designed to exacerbate clinging and craving. I just want to be free and calm and for others not to suffer

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    12 күн бұрын

    Yes, unfortunately that's how the rat race works. Can we escape the wheel?

  • @frankm.2850
    @frankm.28504 жыл бұрын

    Its worth noting that Thanissaro Bhikkhu no longer considers his translations on Access to Insight to be authoritative. You can find a more recent translation of the Ball of Honey Sutra here: www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/MN/MN18.html

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's right Robert, thanks for the update. I keep forgetting to check his later translations.

  • @uuutuuube3691
    @uuutuuube36913 жыл бұрын

    Hi Doug Apologies for contacting you through the comments. Anyway I was thinking about the five aggregates and was wandering if the there is a deeper dive into volition in any parts of the dharma. why what drives us drives us?

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well the general picture is that we are driven towards sense pleasure and away from sense pain. That leads to attachment.

  • @uuutuuube3691

    @uuutuuube3691

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DougsDharma yes I get the general picture. I think I'm asking the question wrong. I'll go away and think about it.

  • @anjalib2210
    @anjalib22103 жыл бұрын

    If you are interested you should read The Buddha and His Dhamma written by Barrister Dr BR Ambedkar Because there are some books available with the wrong information Or you can follow Mr RajRatnya Ambedkar on KZread Namo Budhhay

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I've done a video on it already: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o6B8wdOilabNc6Q.html

  • @anjalib2210
    @anjalib22103 жыл бұрын

    Buddhism is the 2nd oldest religion in India after Jainism Samrat Ashoka had constructed around 84000 Buddhist monasteries in India along with Pakistan Afghanistan Bhutan Nepal Cambodia Myanmar Sri Lanka Namo Budhhay 🙏🏻

  • @BoomiestBomb
    @BoomiestBomb2 жыл бұрын

    Meditation book: Don't use concepts or labels while meditating. Also meditation book: Now tell me if your breath is long or short.

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    2 жыл бұрын

    I guess it depends on which meditation book one's relying on, there are many different ways to meditate. For example Mahasi Sayadaw, a very eminent Burmese meditation teacher, taught that we should label each thing that comes into our mind while meditating. An example of this would be to label a breath as "long breath" or "inhalation".

  • @pragatibhushan8697
    @pragatibhushan86975 жыл бұрын

    Vipassana..... I think it must have been basis of Buddhism before it was destroyed in india

  • @DougsDharma

    @DougsDharma

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually Pragati, Insight or Vipassana Buddhism is a relatively recent development. See my earlier video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/goKOtKaJoNbgm6w.html

  • @nsbd90now
    @nsbd90now Жыл бұрын

    Ha ha! Even before I watch this I'm gonna guess "thinking too much" links up nicely with "scholarship conceit"!