Never in my wildest dreams would I walk that trail during rain. I love weather extremes but not that much to be in the middle of it 😬

@FreshlySnipes

Жыл бұрын

I walked it today and got about a mile in and decided it was sketch af and turned around. It was 95 deg. & sunny yesterday afternoon and literally 30-min later it was a monsoon blowing 40mph+ & poring rain. Not worth the risk imo. Esp. Considering there is no place to hide. It’s just a canyon.

@sunray8136

Жыл бұрын

@@FreshlySnipes wow at least you tried though. I think my least favorite way to die would be drowning. Rivers creep me out too. Too many people living in river flood zones its nuts. But there's always tornadoes and straight line winds in my neck of the woods 😄.

@melindahall5062

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely stupid….It’s a wonder they want to post it.

Finally a video where the people used their heads, knew what to do, knew when to stop, and didn't just continue forward. And those shots at 5:36 and 7:44 - awesome! THESE are the kind of people I would like to hike with!

@happy_hartshornes

5 жыл бұрын

Pierre Cardone Was thanks man!

@menriquez89

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? A debris flow could’ve come at any time. they left a super safe area to get right in the water and just leave it up to fate. They should’ve stayed on that cliff where they were pretty much 100% safe. They’re lucky a flow didn’t hit. Just lucky though not smart.

In June 1977 I was trapped in the narrows in a flash flood several times that deep. It was sunny all day with no rain predicted. The sandbar I was trapped on was the only place I could have survived. My Uncle was trapped in a side canyon but I thought he was killed. I remember the sudden roar , water rising, and trees pulling my feet from under me as I scrambled up the embankment. A thunderstorm hit nearly 20 miles away so we didn't see or hear it. We walked out at dusk in water as deep as you show as the flood went down.

@happy_hartshornes

5 жыл бұрын

daniel dimiduk wow!!! It’s a bad place to be In a storm or flash flood. Thank God you got out. Did you get any video or pictures? Thanks for your comment.

@danieldimiduk2988

5 жыл бұрын

Happy Hartshornes ... I have a picture of swimming in the clear water before the flood, then my uncle took one from the side canyon with the flood. I took a picture of the picture and it's in my Facebook but don't know how to transfer it. I have several of climbing Angles Landing before they had most of the chains. They are all chemical photos and faded.

@nevadagrace3514

5 жыл бұрын

Rsiningbip stream miles away

@happy_hartshornes

Жыл бұрын

Wow!!!!! Anyone get washed away?

There's a fine line between awesome adventure and tragic event. Glad it was the former!

I did the Narrows hike once when there was a relatively low chance of a flash flood and about 2 miles in it started raining and hailing. It seemed that in minutes the water came up to where ankle deep when we walked in was thigh-waist deep on the way out. Scary stuff - but nothing like this. It is a cool hike, I just wouldn't do it again unless there was 0 chance of flash flood. A lot of internet searches list Angels Landing as a scary hike. Nope - this one scares me pending the weather. Glad ya'll made it out - thanks for sharing the video.

@happy_hartshornes

Жыл бұрын

I agree. There would have to be zero chance of rain for me to hike it again.

That was fascinating to watch! This is an experienced hike due to extreme conditions. So glad you all made it out safely!!! I attempted this with a boyfriend. He misinformed me, did not know this terrain well, and completely clueless about the extreme conditions. I trusted him and did not do my homework. This is 17 miles of hiking in icy waters. There is no sunlight or cell phone reception. You walk on pebbles and rocks, so your ankles get very tired. There are flash floods during summer, and in winter you can get hypothermia from Oct onwards. We went in Oct. The weather on land was in high 70's F. After getting a car ride to the top 40 miles up, the van left us there. BF persuaded me to leave my boots in the van and my jacket. After the van left, we realized the weather up on top was 35F and very chilly. It was a crater rim and sun had not come up that range of mountains, although down below it was sunny and warm. So it was dark, very chilly, and scary. I dipped my sandaled feet into the stream - ICE COLD!!!! I mean really icy cold. There was no way I could walk 17 miles in that icy water, let alone one mile - since I have Raynauds and circulation is not optimal. Yikes. I abandoned that hike immediately. I realized that my BF knew nothing and had landed us in a very dangerous situation. The van had left. No cell phone reception up there. Hike was 40 miles downhill on the mountain on dry land, or 17 miles in wet icy water. We remained on top, freezing without jackets, fortunately I had brought two space blankets of plastic, which kept us warm. It was 7 am. Finally at 10 am another van came up with two tourists. We flagged it down and got a ride back down. Hallelujah. Saved. Never again. Do not underestimate the power of Nature. It will kill you in hours without heat. The BF became the Ex BF after that Zion trip. We had done Angels Landing tool and that was also very dangerous at the top, but I could control that. The fact that this man put us both in such danger and pretended he knew that train when he did not, was very scary and unsafe. I cut all ties with him. I don't need a partner like that.

It's scary. Glad you guys made it. Thanks for sharing the awesome experience.

Wow! What a scary experience!! Thank you for sharing it! I’m trying to learn more about Zion before visiting and this was very educational! I’ve seen the news reports of hikers dying because of flash floods in the canyon. They probably had no clue how quickly it can get bad. Thank you! Glad you guys made it out safely!

Kudos to the brave guy that went and tried it out first that saved your lives! Good job man! He is a hero!

Your face at the end said it all! Glad everyone is ok, looks scary!

Grateful you guys made it out of there and thanks for sharing the (scary) experience and some tips in description. Best to you and happy trails from Atlanta. - Paige

@happy_hartshornes

5 жыл бұрын

Beliefs Become Reality thanks!

Wow, My best friend, OMG! So wonderful! I really love this! Thank you so much!

We just hiked from the bottom up for about 3 miles. Great experience. Don't envy what you went through. Glad all are safe. If the rain had been in the north you would of been screwed.

hey man thanks for the reply. I think you're making a good choice. We did this hike when the flash flood potential was only around 20 or 30%. I would ONLY do this hike again if there was a 0% flash flood forecast or I'd do it in 2 days. The last section is called wall street and that's where there are NO or very little escape zones. The thing is, it's the last 2-3 miles of the hike so you will be in this section near the end of the day when all the thunderstorms start forming.

Thanks for taking the time to post this ❤️

One important rule about hiking in Zion slot canyons: don't wear cotton. You wouldn't have been as cold if you had been wearing synthetic clothing.

You guys walked through the canyon while it was raining was a horrible idea. Thank God you weren't caught up in a flash flood.

@happy_hartshornes

26 күн бұрын

It’s 11 miles. It wasn’t raining all day. A thunderstorm popped up in the afternoon.

@909Studios

26 күн бұрын

@@happy_hartshornes I'm so glad you made it out. Thank you for sharing to help others who may hike the canyon.

Great video. Never lose your sense for adventure.

@happy_hartshornes

5 жыл бұрын

AJ Nicholas thank you!

thanks for the comment. It WAS scary. probably the most scared I've ever been. And yes, the girl was very scared. We made it out about 20 minutes before all went dark.

@itinkle

4 жыл бұрын

went dark as in shit hit the fan or darkness?

Well done guys. Experienced, calm and careful, I would go with you for a hiking.

@LittleChena

8 жыл бұрын

I did a lot of hiking and mountain climbing in my life and guess what even with a close look to the forecast every time I was more than once in a situation that weather surprised me. Mountain weather change fast and not every forecast is 100% What I liked was being in dangerous situation they were calm and careful and did everything right to get back to safety and that what counts. Believe me nothing is more dangerous than hysterical and panic driven people ...

My wife and i just hiked the narrows 4 days ago the weather was perfect thank God we didnt get stuck in what you guys did

@happy_hartshornes

7 жыл бұрын

I was scared!!!

@raymondmartens7803

7 жыл бұрын

did you get stuck in a down pour?

@happy_hartshornes

7 жыл бұрын

+Raymond Martens yes. It rained snd hailed. We climbed a cliff and waited for about an hour. We weren't sure if a flash flood was going to come rushing down the canyon.

@raymondmartens7803

7 жыл бұрын

ohhhh that was your video?

@happy_hartshornes

7 жыл бұрын

Yes. That was my video. Me and my brother-in-law hiked it.

Re condensing water vapour from daytime heat happens near or before sundown, 5his is when all the latent heat of evaporation releases . Glad you made it, calm and reasoned response is why you're telling the story.. thats very dangerous, now you know how dangerous it can get fast ;)

I was there that same weekend but I did the narrows hike on Friday the 17th. I got back out of the narrows just as it started pouring and saw the waterfalls coming off the canyon walls. I remember thinking that the people we saw just starting the hike were screwed. Glad you guys were okay.

I'm glad you guys made it out okay! I'm very familiar with the narrows, and have been there countless times over the past 5 years -- most recently about a month before you recorded this. It's fascinating (and scary) to see what it is like back there during unfavorable conditions.

That is soooo scary!! Even though I know you are going to be ok, ie: the posted video afterwards, watching it is still so terrifying !!

This is s crazy video. I'm am going in the middle of the flood season. After watching this me and my brother have came up with a new game plan for this hike.

Wow... awesome video. Thanks for posting it.

Thank you. Let me do a lot of thinking about how to handle a flash flood in a canyon. Good work.

@happy_hartshornes

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Glad you guys are okay, stay safe please. loved the vid

At least you guys stayed calm you really only get 1 or two wrong decisions in that situation and usually when people panic they make them early. Bravo.

@happy_hartshornes

4 жыл бұрын

Scott Hinrichsen thanks man!

Yikes. I just made a video about deadly waterfalls and one of my viewers recommended your video. Yikes! Glad you guys made it out safely!

Really beautiful the rain coming off the cliffs

Bad place to get caught. Glad you all got out safe. Thanks for sharing.

I really respect how you own the choices you made and use it as an opportunity to educate others. Great video.

@user-cf8ir6iy6y

6 жыл бұрын

You don't "OWN the choices you made"....that's nonsense. If you are injured in there or worse (many have died in there in the rain) then OTHERS must risk danger to retrieve you and family must bear the stress of not knowing etc. Too many people look at their decisions as being made in a vacuum. NOTHING happens in a vacuum. I have hiked the narrows over 15 times. You made a foolish choice that could have impacted many others. PERIOD

@MrDmadness

Жыл бұрын

@@user-cf8ir6iy6y whole intake your point as I live I terrain that kills people also I think they are intending to convey that the poster could have just not uploaded this, its important for people tossee the danger potential they could face ... no? I agree they made a bad choice but they stayed calm and managed, all they could do aftertheir bad choice was made.

You guys are extreme! Very cool rain hike video!

I think that waterfall was right where we stopped for lunch. Amazing shots.

Watching people on floaters going down stream in good times taught me a great lesson.

Awesome video felt like i was right there. Im from ut never been to zion but i see storys on the news hikers gettin caught in them canyons during flash floods and not surviving, ur very lucky. I checked out ur channel i see ur out being all kinds of active,glad to see u make it out them canyons so u can continue on ur overall adventure of life. Good Work!

Good educational video for folks venturing up the narrows.

@user-cf8ir6iy6y

6 жыл бұрын

No...it's a video on how to NOT go into the narrows. Never, ever go in there in the rain. EVER. Foolhardy game of Russian roulette.

I've been in a Southern Utah slot canyon when the water starts rising. The fear is real. Glad you made it out ok.

@happy_hartshornes

Жыл бұрын

It is real. No joke. The only way I’d ever hike a trail like that again would be if there was a ZERO percent chance of rain which means not hiking it in the summer. LOL

Pretty awesome, love the head shake at the end :p

Great video. Thanks for sharing

This is awesome. You guys were smart and prepared. I've always wanted to visit Zion. Hopefully soon.

Holy shjt seeing those huge bolders in the middle of the creek shot my blood pressure through the roof! Imagine seeing one land out in front of u! I’d mess my shorts for real! Glad y’all made it out!

OMG that´s a f-ing river forming in that canyon! You´re lucky the canyon was relatively wide. Imagine the same amount of water in one of those 1 m narrow ones...

@happy_hartshornes

Ай бұрын

It was scary. Also, it’s always a river. The trail ends up being the river near the end. But, yes, there was a lot of water coming into and people have died in flash floods here before. If you google Zion narrows flash flood you will find and article of a Boy Scout troop that got caught there and a couple people died.

Glad you all made it out!

@happy_hartshornes

10 жыл бұрын

thanks man!

Great video wish it was longer. thanks for posting.

@happy_hartshornes

10 жыл бұрын

I have a longer one. I have the entire 16 mile hike. I didn't film all of it but the longer video shows the beginning of the trail all the way to the end.

@happy_hartshornes

10 жыл бұрын

It's called "Utah Part 3 (Zion Narrows top-down 16 miles)

@shurppa64

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up. I'll watch that one. I love canyons. The one you guys were in was cool. I would like to get down there some day and check it out.

I did part of this hike back in 2016. It’s on my bucket list to go back and spend the day just hiking the narrows. I was only able to spend a few hours (made it about 3 miles up from the trail when I had to turn around and head back). I would be so freaked out if there was a chance of flash floods though.

@happy_hartshornes

5 жыл бұрын

Jessie Ely get a permit and camp half way in. The camping spots are safe and then the next day you can finish by noon to avoid afternoon thunderstorms.

@jessieely5363

5 жыл бұрын

Happy Hartshornes- I’ll be sure to do that! :)

And just as they get to the middle of the waterfall, one guy asks "Hey, does that sound like an engine...?" Soon they all can hear a growling, whining sound, the crunching of gravel, mechanical noises. Then some guy in a red 70's Toyota FJ-40 Landcruiser drives around the next bend up ahead and stops beside them, water halfway up the windshield, diesel exhaust burbling up from below. The grinning maniac driver rolls down the window, and as water pours into the already flooded cab yells out, "Isn't this cool?!! Y'all need a ride?"

@swashbucklingadventures9929

7 жыл бұрын

Darrell Jacob JR OTFLMAO!!!!! THAT'S AWESOME! !!! :)

@happy_hartshornes

6 жыл бұрын

Darrell Jacob JR LOL. That would have helped us for sure.

I Went Hiking Through the Narrows Yesterday. Now, I'm Heading Back To Colorado. AMAZING Hike. I Went RIGHT Before A Flash Flood. We Hiked About 7 3/4 of an hour. Last time i hiked the narrows, i hiked 10 FULL HOURS!

@happy_hartshornes

7 жыл бұрын

One of the best hikes of my life.

@nnateo

7 жыл бұрын

I bet so.

This is like something out a film. Well documented.

@happy_hartshornes

6 жыл бұрын

Mark Rooney thank you. It was a fun hike but the thought of a massive wall of water coming down the canyon had me very scared.

@markr8690

6 жыл бұрын

Happy Hartshornes you guys kept calm with all things considered. If you have ever watched the good dinosaur (lame source) there's a flash flood scene that terrified me for a kids film. Happy adventures !

I'm new to the hiking thing, but I think the rock that you guys found would have been my bet. Glad you made it out, but you said the rain was letting up. I probably would have stayed up on the ledge until the water went back down.

How incredibly dangerous this was! The river could have doubled or tripled in volume without warning from rain upstream and everyone would have been swept away. Blue skies and 0% chance of flash flooding is the only way to do this, not with water already running off the walls. Jeez!

@happy_hartshornes

Жыл бұрын

There was a slight chance of rain. You think we started this hike with water running down the walls? It’s 11 miles long. Don’t be stupid.

Holy sh*t this is sketchy. I had a tense trip down the Narrows in the Summer of 1997 or 1998. It rained like mad during the night while we were camped out in one of the designated spots in the canyon. Very memorable experience.

@happy_hartshornes

Жыл бұрын

It was crazy. There was only a slight chance of rain.

Great vid,, glad your all safe

When the wife and I hike it during the wet season she always packs a snorkel.

Yeah i almost didn't make it out of there. Rolled my ankle at about mile 3, worst experience of my life.

Good tutorial of what not to do: leave the safety of high ground away from waterfalls, and instead plunge into chest deep, cold, flowing water.

The big waterfall was at the outlet of Imlay canyon, one of the most challenging of Zion's technical routes. Not a route for beginners, nor one when rain threatens. You had a great experience, and produced a great video! Thanks for sharing it with the world!

You had some guardian angels with you that day guys!

I hear ya. I had a fleece jacket in a dry bag. I can't believe how cold it got when the rain came. I didn't want to spend the night on the cliff. It would have been a cold night.

@MrDmadness

Жыл бұрын

Respectfully intended but without dry thermal layers a night on that ledge would likely be fatal.. hypothermia would set in, people gave fallen from perch many times stranded in this situation. Glad you're okay 👍

This video is awesome. Time to upgrade the GoPro?? I was just at Zion and went to attempt the Angels Landing (and chicken'ed out after the 2nd set of chains). I wasn't planning on checking out the Narrows as we didn't have watershoes and had some electronics in my bag. We went around the first bend when heavy thunder started. Clouds got dark. Sign also said "Flash flooding: Highly Probable" so we turned back since we had no idea what the canyon was capable of and were obviously ill-prepared. I'm definitely going back one day. It's a 6 hour drive.

@happy_hartshornes

10 жыл бұрын

yeah.....good call. DON'T hike the Narrows if the flash flood risk is Highly Probable. When we hiked it the flash flood risk was low. We had 2 gopros. one was a Hero 1 and one was a Hero 2. I now have a Hero 3+. The Hero 1 is just horrible in dark conditions. As far as Angels Landing....yeah...scared the CRAP out of me!!!! I probably would not hike angles landing again.

Yup, as far as I can tell we stopped for lunch at the outlet for Imlay Canyon. It was 20% chance of rain that day and we did get sprinkles and lightning and thunder and a mass exodus from the canyon, but thankfully nothing more than a little cloudy water, no increase in river level nor waterfalls- the rain went somewhere else. I guess this year would have had a few more of those kind of experiences.

Wow, that's pretty crazy. They'll shut down the narrows when flash floods occur; looks like you got caught in a gray area where they still let people through. I've been there about four times, with one time them blocking me from entering due to flood warnings, although there wasn't a cloud in the sky. It's crazy how weather from many miles away will hit the narrows.

did this hike few days ago with family. We were advised by a park ranger to start the hike early am to finish early. We got in the park around 6am and started our hike around 7am and left around 10am. By 10am, water was significantly higher than when we started. The chances of flashfloods are also moderate, and it was cloudy that day.

You guys were lucky. Some people have died there. It is always so disappointing when people show disrespect. I live here, we don't mess around with the river.

@happy_hartshornes

5 жыл бұрын

Richard Portman you think we showed disrespect?

The camp grounds are about half way through the hike. If you camped then the next day you could finish the hike and get out of the dangerous wall street section before the afternoon thunderstorms.

😱😬How scary. I was there last year and hiked that alone! I was so scared a flash flood would happen. On my drive home 4 hours later a warning was issued via emergency alert on my cell phone!!

@happy_hartshornes

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, very scary. I'd never home that again during thunderstorm season.

@happy_hartshornes

8 жыл бұрын

+Timberfox0 hike not home

8 minute mark is awesome

u guys were fine, looked fun

Man a little sketchy and nerve racking at times but this video just put this hike on "The List" lol wow what an adventure huh:-)

@happy_hartshornes

7 жыл бұрын

it was the best hike of my life. Just be really careful in the summer months. There was a low threat of flash floods but as you can see that doesn't mean anything.

Dude in the back has clearly got some stuff to live for.

yeah. I have to tell you I was scared to leave the cliff but we only had about 3 mores hours before it got dark. We made it out just as the sun went down. It was cold. I didn't want to stay overnight and it would have been pretty difficult walking out in the dark even though we had good lights.

thanks!

I'm lost for words.

Wow that's insane, got here from Cr0cket's video

Wow this is freaking madness lol. I cannot believe you guys actually waded through that water next to that waterfall. But I mean, you gotta get out before dark because you are not prepared to spend the night cold and wet and tired. I saw the link about the flood you missed. Basically if that flood came your way, you were all the way dead. Either from the flood or being trapped. Am I wrong?

@happy_hartshornes

4 жыл бұрын

itinkle yes you are correct. If there was a flash flood the debris field would have crushed us to death. A group of boy scouts were killed in a flash flood here in the 60’s I believe. Google it. It’s more dangerous than I thought it was! The thing is, we checked the weather. Weather was good. This was unexpected

The most realistic video I'd ever did see

"Born again" feeling after that , i guess.

I'll tell you.....I was scared. We were very lucky a flash flood didn't come down the canyon. Thanks for the comment.

did you hike The Narrows the same day we did?

Knarwly! I've been there when it was drizzling.....nothing like that!

Nice job keeping cool! The narrows is a beautiful place. Check the weather reports before going!

@happy_hartshornes

9 жыл бұрын

i did check the weather report. only a 10% chance of rain and flood threat was low.

I know this video is quite old. This is the first time I've seen this. I hope by now, you all have learned never to go into these areas without a topographical map. Your safety, as well as your lives, depend on it. Also, it helps to know what the previous week's weather was in the area before hand. I'm glad you guys came out of it unscathed.

@happy_hartshornes

4 жыл бұрын

Reggie Longoria thanks Reggie!

@reggielongoria1848

4 жыл бұрын

@@happy_hartshornes You're welcome. By the way, that was pretty intense. I can only imagine what was running through your guys's minds during that adventure. 👍

@happy_hartshornes

4 жыл бұрын

Reggie Longoria I thought we were going to have to spend the night in the canyon. I brought extra clothes, food, water and flashlights. It would have been cold though. Even in the middle of summer it got cold in the canyon.

@reggielongoria1848

4 жыл бұрын

@@happy_hartshornes That was a nice move with the extras you brought along. I've seen people go along with this day-trip mentality and not plan far enough ahead, in case something goes awry. I'm really no one to say, but I think that was a brilliant move on your part, to think ahead like that. I hope you guys have some great epic adventures along the way. By the way, I thought that was some really good footage. My compliments to you.

yes....they did close it. But we didn't enter from the bottom and walk up. We did the full 16 mile hike from the top down. It was a perfect day out. Chance of rain was only 30%. We were maybe 4 miles from finishing when the storm came. At that point, you are in it. Nothing you can do. When we finished there was a sign at the entrance that said the trail was closed.

Having hiked the Narrows with wall to wall people and a rather boring hike- this would be much more interesting.

yep.

when did you hike The Narrows?

Southwest storms do indeed come out of nowhere..Be a sunny day and suddenly it's raining.

When you climbed the first ledge was the dirt slippery? You all looked sure-footed climbing.

@happy_hartshornes

3 жыл бұрын

Mitchell it wasn’t slippery. It was pretty easy to climb up. Mostly rock. Not soil.

@mitchellwintercat

3 жыл бұрын

@@happy_hartshornes Thanks! Looking to make the trek. Leaving the real time apprehension in your voices appreciated!

So what time of year is best??? I've seen a lot of comments with the mention of summer.

@JaxBespoked

3 жыл бұрын

May-June. May if the water level is low enough which depends on snow accumulation at high altitude from the previous winter. It also depends on where you are going (how far). The route from the bottom all the way up to Orderville Canyon has high ground spots the entire way. Once you continue past the confluence with Orderville through the "Wall Street" section, there is NO high ground. Just cliff walls straight up. Then it opens up slightly again with sand bars and side rock formations.

@swashbucklingadventures9929

3 жыл бұрын

@@JaxBespoked Thanks for the response and info 👍

Always check the weather

thanks for your comments!

I've seen some youtube videos of people doing that and I saw one youtube video of some guys kayaking down. Looked awesome! Just search kayak zion narrows and you should be able to find it.

You have been extremely lucky in many ways.

@happy_hartshornes

9 жыл бұрын

no doubt. Just saw some pictures and video of Zion Narrows flooding. I guess it happened in August 2014. There's a video on youtube.

Like Noah said : How long can you tread water ?

Check out the link in my video description. This flash flood happened the same day we were in the narrows and was not more than 10 miles away from us. We just got lucky that the rain wasn't falling north of us or this huge wall of water and debris would have been coming down the canyon.

those poor boys think they're skiing.... excellent story arc tho, love the third act where the 90s action hero comes out of nowhere and saves the boys and some random hot chick

let me know when you go. Will you be taking video? I'd love to see your video if you are. Keep me up to date on your trip!

Sketchy af but really beautiful