The one thing that I will never forgive this show about is the fact that Eric was treated as the bad guy by everyone else after the break-up

@drlee2

7 жыл бұрын

I have to agree. Donna was kind of a Mary Sue that everyone had to love as this perfect person of the group, while Eric got treated as the court jester to be mocked as a loser. The irony is, I recall several times where JACKIE would defend Eric to Donna indicating that he was a great guy who was devoted to her and she could do a lot worse.

@andrewvanhalen1984

5 жыл бұрын

@@drlee2 Eric and Jackie I believe would've made a great couple. Too bad the show didn't go down that path.

@fright_clubgroupie7634

5 жыл бұрын

Poor Eric was the show's punching bag.

@Cartooncountdown

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Thank you I highly agree. They basically made Eric the punching bag from then on. Don't blame Topher for leaving when he did

@lordalessan

5 жыл бұрын

NirvanaFrk97 it was bad for Eric. Everyone either thought Donna dumped him, making him the piteous victim or everyone knew he dumped Donna and treated him like an idiot for doing so because he couldn’t do better.

"If you can see a future without me and that doesn't break your heart, then we're not doing what I thought we were doing here" I felt that shit

@buk5053

4 жыл бұрын

Only a narcissist wouldn't.

@elizaasipi

4 жыл бұрын

Dammm

@gregap8282

4 жыл бұрын

That was a bullet

@josebenitez4851

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t treat you that way

@szaxzagma6126

4 жыл бұрын

what does it mean?

I would have broken up with her too, if a girl can't see me in her future then she's not the one

@datrashqueen_

5 жыл бұрын

C7 Z Z YES

@kriss007G

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah being so long with someone and doesnt see a future with you it hurts.

@ysirmars7444

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm two people can be meant for eachother but they are in different areas of their lives... You may have to break up and find your way back to eachother

@susana01992

4 жыл бұрын

@@ysirmars7444 agree

@Cash4gold84

4 жыл бұрын

Nikko Nikole he’s playing with you, and won’t ever actually come back....

They were on a break!!! Wait...wrong sitcom.

@SuperMrKnowItAll1234

6 жыл бұрын

best comment ever!!

@taranaib6080

6 жыл бұрын

Lmaoo

@thelastofitskind3034

6 жыл бұрын

thatoneguy lmao lol

@Splashstar216

6 жыл бұрын

i dont get it??

@MrJAMESTAKER

5 жыл бұрын

Bahaha

I will never forgive this show for always making Eric the bad guy. This kid, LOVED this girl, he LOVED his family, and he LOVED his friends. He changed so much for all of them, he changed for Donna, Hyde, Kitty, and red because of how much he wanted to be with them, to impress them, and to be the best he could for them. And whenever he had an opinion that slightly differed from them, he was painted as, a liar, a dirtbag, and being selfish. Truly one of the biggest flaws in such good writing for a television show.

@thestretchy1539

3 жыл бұрын

Eric was a great person throw with shitty people, kitty never let Eric grow up, red pushed Eric around, Laurie made Eric’s life miserable, Hyde got Eric into alcohol and drugs, and Donna got mad at Eric when he had an opinion that differed from hers

@sandytinky

3 жыл бұрын

@@thestretchy1539 Couldn't agree more with both of you!!!

@AbsolutelyNOT00737

3 жыл бұрын

That's what made him so relatable. It was never enough.

@E.Nobody

3 жыл бұрын

That's unfortunately how life is for some of us..it was showing that..

@salmasalute

2 жыл бұрын

He was selfish and insensitive alright. If u couldnt see that then maybe cause u are like that too. Anyoways no one is perfect. Thats realistic.

you guys need to realize that donna basically said she doesn’t see a future without him. I don’t think y’all realize how much that hurts a person, especially if you’re in love.

@autumnisasleep

5 жыл бұрын

EXACTLYYY!! and people were calling Eric pushy 🙄

@that70sshine79

4 жыл бұрын

The thing is that they are high school. They haven't even graduated. Maybe she isn't trying to put her expectations high by saying they'll be forever together cause when the time comes that they break up later in life, itll hurt more because of that same thought that they will always be together.

@alihanaydemir4500

4 жыл бұрын

Thats why people can critisize easily. Most of them are not ever in love in their life

@pedroguzman3168

4 жыл бұрын

angela whittemore it’s hurts , You give your all ,you envision the person with you thru it all ,have all these feelings for em just for them to say some shi like this Fucks were you doing then just wasting time If you weren’t dating to marry what are you doing

@palomaramirez2360

3 жыл бұрын

I’m in an identical situation, and it reeeally hurts. So yeah, you should definitely do what Eric did, he’s not wrong here.

I hate how he lays in the exact same spot they had their first kiss. I can't watch this episode sometimes.

@brandoncumba7336

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@atribecalledlen3567

4 жыл бұрын

Tyler Driver subtle as hell

I still find it crazy that a promise ring was too much, but an engagement ring was perfect

@ricevvv1602

5 жыл бұрын

OMG YEAH IM SO WOKE

@goldenhospitality8521

5 жыл бұрын

Oh goddamn those spoilers

@nicksmith5833

5 жыл бұрын

A promise ring is more of a high school romance thing. An engagement ring is a promise based on the fact that you’ve spent the time and energy on your relationship, and proven to each other that you are fully committed.

@abehambino

5 жыл бұрын

That was almost three years later and a lot had happened and led up to that. I agree that the promise ring shouldn’t have been a big deal, but it’s kind of unrelated to this

@coffewitgemini9953

4 жыл бұрын

@@abehambino actually in their time it was only a year. They were engaged senior year

The worst part is after the breakup Eric’s friends were jerks and replaced him with Donna because she had cable

@jfproductions8320

4 жыл бұрын

I’m honestly not even suprised

@angelplascencia3356

4 жыл бұрын

Donna was a bitch after the breakup she always told Eric to back up when she was with Casey but always interfered with the girls Eric got with

@ariannygonzalez2300

3 жыл бұрын

Angel Plascencia that’s what alway got me angry

@a.j.stanley3891

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr, bunch of sellouts

@EricGraham94

3 жыл бұрын

Actually the entire 4th season, everyone hassled Eric nonstop; he just never caught a break until Season 4’s finale

Donna doesn't deserve Eric😒he's such a good bf

@daniellacastillo6062

6 жыл бұрын

Yea Dona is very u know not very good for him she just does not understand him

@persistentlypathetic6820

6 жыл бұрын

Donna always treated Eric like trash if you ask me. Always thought he deserved better.

@LegionIvory

5 жыл бұрын

Eric was immature as hell, and this shows it. Donna was thinking like a teen ready to become an adult. Eric was thinking like a teen refusing to grow up (which is his problem the entire show). Donna was absolutely right; it was just a high school ring that didn't mean anything. Eric should've had enough love and care for her to let her make her own decision. His own selfish ideals of their relationship should not get in the way of either of their happiness. But that's what happened. Sorry, I like, super fuckin' love this show. lol

@xdd782

5 жыл бұрын

Legion Ivory You’re wrong. What would you do if your gf/bf told you that she dreamed a future without you and was completely okay with it. I’d dump her straight out. Man, they have been together for 2 years. And don’t forget that Donna was always the one who said “forever”. That ring is them being together ‘til the end. Donna refused it. The girl you love refused the ring that was the symbol of their eternal love. And she told him that he wasn’t in the dreams in the future that she wanted. And they “love each other”.

@TheArcher101

5 жыл бұрын

It's astounding how few women in sitcoms actually do

I think this breakup was more of a clash of perspectives than anyone being in the wrong. I can see why it scares the hell out of Eric to hear Donna say she doesn't always see him as a fixture in her life. But I also understand that Donna is scared to commit to someone so young without leaving the future open. Honestly, I hate that they broke up but I give props to the writers here.

@JujusRus

5 жыл бұрын

She was a dick to him while they were dying and after they were dating.

@candacemary7646

4 жыл бұрын

soulfulpizza14 your 100% right it shows two perspectives and most people believe Eric’s way

@theflyingspaghettimonster4165

3 жыл бұрын

I kind of understand where Donna was coming from though I mean she’s super young sure she can dream about him being in her future but like expecting it to happen only to be let down would be a bad thing because her and Eric are so young at that age the chance of a relationship actually lasting is very low so I could see why she wouldn’t want to get her hopes up over a future with eric that could possibly never happen I also understand where Eric is coming from and why he feels the way he does personally when it comes to relationships for me I’m just like yeah it would be cool if I ended up with the person I’m dating but at the same time I could also see if future where I don’t end up with them and I’m perfectly fine with that

Eric did what most of us guys can be too scared to do: He took a leap and didn't know if he was gonna land on his feet. Takes alot of courage and heart to do this.

@northernspade1727

Жыл бұрын

For sure, especially as a high schooler, it's so easy to just coast on what you have now, and cross bridges as you come to them. But Eric knew what he wanted, and Donna obviously couldn't give it to him. Why waste any more time?

Donna didn’t deserve Eric he was a wholesome boyfriend. Although Donna reminds me of myself lol.

@green8078

5 жыл бұрын

relate

@anmolbhatnagar8293

4 жыл бұрын

Then u a bitch.

@yeehaw9505

4 жыл бұрын

Eric didn’t deserve her either, he’s immature and always starts arguments by getting upset about little things like the ring

@neerjx5126

3 жыл бұрын

@TWAM shutup, she always starts the fight

@neerjx5126

3 жыл бұрын

@@yeehaw9505 at least he tried to fix the little problems by giving ring as a gift with themselves when donna just sit there by herself making fun of him infront of his friends, and also why would you date someone who doesnt see a future with yourself, it's like pure waste of time and love

Feels worse when your both in the wrong and theres no one to blame

@KomamuraSajin

5 жыл бұрын

@Truth Sayer Donna was right. It's not realistic to think two high schoolers are going to be together for life. Does it happen? Do high school sweethearts marry? Yes, but more often than not people who marry too young or don't explore other relationships to find out who they're truly compatible with, end up in divorce. Acknowledging the characters in this show are fiction, if they reunited and married/became life partners, then Donna was right, they were meant to be together. But, no one can truly know that unless they explore their options and see what other things life has to offer them. Your comment reeks of the "nice guy" mentality which is actually pretty selfish. I wouldn't be surprised if you're an incel. Maybe change your name to Anti-SJW Meme Sayer.

@jansantel6829

5 жыл бұрын

@@KomamuraSajin Lol I love how u get so fuckin worked up over a sitcom that u start throwing insults. Thank u, this was too fucking funny to read

@aaarb20

5 жыл бұрын

@Truth Sayer Eric was not 100 % right. Nor was she. Grow up.

@JRCGuitarist

5 жыл бұрын

KomamuraSajin Eric was right, commitment is a choice. You say you are going to be together and then you do it. Her parents failed to do this not because it was out of their control but was due to their foolishness. Eric wasn’t asking for marriage but simply a commitment through a promise ring. So, the marriage argument doesn’t work here. However, many marriages between young people do last a long time, but this is due to choice. Although the a lot of marriages aren’t healthy, many last a lifetime. I would also argue that a lot of older people marrying don’t do well. This would also support that it’s not so much the age but the mentality of those involved. It wasn’t unrealistic for Eric to seek a commitment, but if he had been asking for marriage it was likely too early. Eric and Donna were at a reasonable age. So, they certainly weren’t too young.

@shonenking3948

2 жыл бұрын

@@KomamuraSajin holy fuck. Way to really fumble the ball near the end there. Like u just couldn’t resist tearing into him huh? Shame on you, dedass

this scene breaks my heart.

@kimberlyargiris5271

5 жыл бұрын

It does break my heart 2

@adamuzumaki98

5 жыл бұрын

This ending of Season 3 makes my cry 😭😭😭😭😭.

@jonathanmendoza2319

4 жыл бұрын

Looks Like Eric Is Going Through Changes!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

You guys trying to blame Eric are pretty selfish and you don't understand relationships. Donna was basically putting him in a lonely bin. I mean how would you like it if the one you loved told you the same things that Donna did? Of course it would hurt. If it happened to me, I'd wanna break up too. You can't blame Eric. Donna said that she was feeling lonely from her thoughts about her future. That alone just starts an argument. The best thing she could have said was that the ring was just too soon. Everything else she said was uncalled for. I couldn't handle someone saying those things to me

@American-Zero

7 жыл бұрын

You bring up a good point dude, but you gotta admit, Eric was being pushy, getting her that ring just...scared her. She was not ready for this type of thing...but I do see your part in this when she said sometimes she feels alone, but I think he might have jumped the wagon by breaking up with her

@JRCGuitarist

7 жыл бұрын

American Zero I disagree with you. They both handled that the wrong way. Donna acted like Eric was going to get in her way, which he clearly seemed open minded in her doing what she wanted. He just wanted to do them with her and not apart. Donna had decided she was going to do things alone. If she felt it was too fast that's one thing, but to plan a future without him was selfish in itself. Eric on his part should have handled the break up better than that. If I was in his shoes, I would have broken up with her too. But not the way he did. If we aren't going to plan a future together then I would like to see other people and decide if you are going to be in my future. In other words, if you want to plan a future where you are alone, then so will I but I won't do that committed to you. So he made the right call to break it off. He just didn't do it right.

@MrRedforman1

7 жыл бұрын

Fala Crow, exactly. If I was in Eric's shoes, I would wanna break up too. If my girlfriend could only imagine her life without me, then what's the point of being together? Donna should've just said that she would have to think about it before she accepted the ring. That was the selfish part. She should've never said those things. Eric broke up with her because she hurt him, but he did it in a way to get back at her

@adamlanza2247

7 жыл бұрын

Donna should not have to give up where she wants to go to college just for Eric, she sacrificed so much for him already.

@JRCGuitarist

7 жыл бұрын

Adam Lanza​ You misunderstood what Eric was saying. Eric wasn't asking her to give up to college or her dreams. He clearly said, it didn't matter here she went to college, but that they would be there to together. She was the one who said, she wanted to do it alone. I also don't I see any evidence that she had sacrificed so much for him. If that's the case, then Eric had right to want to be with her wherever she went, since he also sacrificed so much for Donna. As all people in relationships, you sacrifice to keep the other happy. Eric was offering support, not telling her to give her dreams. But she was being selfish in telling him, that she saw her future without Eric. That's not a matter of sacrifice there, if anything, Eric was expressing he was willing to sacrifice what he wanted or where he wanted to go, to follow her. Hence why she was trying to get Eric to think of his future for himself. She wanted him to consider a future where they aren't together, she's off doing her own thing, and he's doing his thing. The problem with that logic is, love is commitment. Eric was right, the way two people are together, is not by sitting there and "going with the flow". You are together because you choose to be together, you commit to each and do what needs to be done to maintain that commitment. She wanted them to keep their options open instead of trying define it or commit to it.

Eric's completely right - if you're with someone and you don't see them in your future with you at most or all of the really important parts of your life, then what are you doing with them in the first place?

The painful thing about this scene is that they are both right. Donna wanted a future with freedom in it. She wanted the option to be out on her own, and believed that she wouldn't know herself unless she had the opportunity to spend time apart from the things familiar to her. Eric wanted a commitment. He didn't need to explore himself further because he already knew what he wanted out of life: to be with Donna. That's not going to work, and Eric realized it. He didn't want to be on the hook, waiting around for things that, as Donna put it, "are meant to be" to come to pass. Donna isn't wrong for returning the ring. Eric isn't wrong for breaking up with her as a result.

@andypaulocelli109

Жыл бұрын

damn right....everything you said is true....I can relate to Eric's pain....I have been there, unfortunately....we all have right? To be clear, obviously Donna was in pain too.

@suzane383

Жыл бұрын

everything true

@itachistan437

Жыл бұрын

If she sees her potential husband to be a “restriction” in the future then she needs to leave him alone like he said.

@Hottakedrake

Жыл бұрын

This sounds like dating today. Women wanna be this bigger than life ass female while men just wanna have a woman who’ll have his kids and stay at home.

@Josh-99

Жыл бұрын

@@Hottakedrake Don't treat women or men like monoliths. It's ignorant and insulting. My wife of 23 years wanted a career and a quiet life. I wanted an independent partner who would contribute to the household in multiple ways. Neither of us wanted children. I have two close married friends where the guy is a stay at home dad and the girl has a powerful career. They both like it that way. YOU may want a woman who is willing to stay home with kids, but not everyone does. There are also plenty of women who would be thrilled to just be a housewife, and there are plenty of men who see such women as leeches. Evaluate the person as an individual. Your words evoke prejudice.

“Are you breaking up with me?” You wanted to break up with him but didn’t have the balls to actually do it darling.

Commitment is something that brings Eric comfort but scares the shit out of Donna. I can relate waaay more to Donna and the first time I ever watched this I thought Eric was being pretty unreasonable, but I get it a lot more now and I did feel awful for him in that later episode Eric's Depression

@American-Zero

7 жыл бұрын

In my opinion...Eric was being selfish. Donna had a lot going on in her life at the time, mainly her parents fighting and breaking up, and now he comes around with a Promise Ring..She was trying to say if it's meant to be..then they'll be together..but that wasn't good enough for him. All that ring did was scare her..why? Because they are both a bunch of stupid kids still in High School..neither know what the future is gonna bring..or if they're still gonna be together when it's all over. Although Donna did lead him on thinking she's happy..she should have been upfront with him and told him this is scary and they need to slow this down..but Eric was wrong to break up with her. He acted like a spoiled child who stomps his feet whenever he doesn't get his way. It's like everything has to be his way or the highway, that's what ran her off. They could've worked things out, but he took the easy way and bailed on the relationship..at least later he realizes what a dumbass he was and worked on getting her back.

@sauron109

7 жыл бұрын

Eric was being selfish are you out of your mind ? he simply asked can you see me in future and she said not always, so it means when things get better for her well bye bye Eric, he supported her, kissed her ass entire time and even said NP go to Paris or w/e you want. so in the end she is the one selfish to continue with Eric so in the end she can leave him lol

@SpankSandwitch99

7 жыл бұрын

American Zero they were both in the wrong. she really failed at explaining exactly why this wasn't working for her, and instead just made Eric feel like she saw no real value in their relationship. Eric failed at understanding that he was pressuring her, and yes, wasn't taking into account her own troubles that she was dealing with, like seeing her parents, the longest relationship she'd known, pretty much fall apart. young love is very passionate, much like new love, but young love has the added 'bonus' of NO Experience in dealing with these emotions and issues.

@iliana4284

7 жыл бұрын

Snorlaxation beautifully written. I agree.

@American-Zero

7 жыл бұрын

Snorlaxation Yeah you got a good point, both of them were at fault in this, Eric for trying to push her into this, not taking into account that he's practically scaring her, making her think about the future. and Donna for not being honest in her feelings when she is not ready for a long term commitment because she doesn't know what the future holds for them..compiled with the fact that her parents, two people who've been together since she was in diapers..are splitting up and there's nothing she can do to stop it. Both of them eventually realized their mistakes and soon ended up back together.

I still feel like Eric was justified in doing this. He was really supposed to be fine with her not seeing a future with him at all? It annoyed me that the S4 finale emphasized that he was in the wrong for dumping her when Donna clearly took their relationship for granted in the final episodes of this season.

@mistqlette4037

3 жыл бұрын

gor9027 yes!! i wholeheartedly agree

@dgxkeyboards4535

3 жыл бұрын

Well to be fair, in real life people always favor the women over men in most situations like in court.

It confuses me that Donna throughout everything still haven't changed. She's always going to blame Eric when she threw the first punch. She basically told him she doesn't see a future with him and that he's with her right now. How can she say these hurtful things to someone who's deeply in love with her? Eric has shown that no matter what he's always going to love Donna. If she doesn't feel the same way he's just wasting his time planning a future she doesn't want. He had to leave her or else he'll stay in a relationship where he's always wondering when she's going to leave. That isn't fair. Eric is a selfish person. He always wants everything his way too. He plans and Donna just wants to go with the flow. Even though, I believe Donna loves Eric too. She's just too emotional right now with her parents separating and her mom leaving. This was bound to happen. When you meet your soulmate at such a young age, you get together too soon and you're bound to make stupid mistakes.

@mrj5648

8 жыл бұрын

technically her mom left after the break up, season 4 the rebound.

@JRCGuitarist

7 жыл бұрын

candy innomin Technically they were both selfish in this case, I wouldn't say he was a selfish person tho. Clearly Eric was willing to support Donna through her career and schooling. He just wanted to do these things with her, not apart. Also, having a promise ring downs t mean they would get together too soon, Eric made a good point. The point is not that do move fast but then in the end they at least put the effort to be together. That doesn't mean they get married right away or anything. They had time to wait, Eric just wanted to know that even through that, they would be together. He had a right feel secure in this relationship.

@henrypeters5291

7 жыл бұрын

I don't think either was selfish. They just wanted different things. You were right. He wanted to plan things out (actually not really and I'll explain in a bit) and she wanted to go with the flow. He was right to break up with her. So the promise ring was actually just meant to secure their relationship. He wanted some sense that she was always going to be with him, no matter how superficial.

@Jay60888

6 жыл бұрын

"Story of my life." My ex and I hooked up in our 30's. I was 30, she was 35. Our relationship lasted from early October 2016 - Late August 2017. She had a 9 year old daughter, blah blah blah. I'm open enough to share. Well, it just never seemed to work out. I wanted love and affection. But she wasn't willing to give me that. She said no. Her daughter is her #1 priority (Nothing wrong with that). The bad thing about dating a single Mom is, if you want love and affection from her, you're gonna be competing against her child. That's never a good thing! You will always end up losing. So basically, it was a toxic relationship. Anyway, one day my ex, her mom and her daughter, came back from lunch. Suddenly, they got into a car accident. She and her daughter survived. But the poor old woman didn't make it. She died. The death of her mother became the end of our relationship. She was depressed. She didn't want to try anymore. I was always putting my best foot in and worked hard, in this relationship. She was never interested in me. I love her no matter what. But unfortunately, I was put in a difficult position. I had no choice but to break up with her. Your comment pretty much relates to mine. Not 100% but something like that. Moral of the story is, a successful relationship is based on 2 people. They give it their all, Not 1 doing all the work. Otherwise, it will soon become, "Titanic."

@joeywuzhere100

6 жыл бұрын

Candy Innomin its a show lol

God I cry at this part every time I see it

@vasuritaa

7 жыл бұрын

Sabal Vasan Me too :(

I can understand that Donna thought it was too soon for the ring and wanted to wait, but then she says that she can see a future for herself without Eric... wow, uncalled for. I don’t blame Eric one bit. I would’ve done the same thing. I believe Donna loves him but It was obvious that she was taking him for granted and was being selfish. It’s too bad because I liked Donna at the start of the series but she stayed the same the entire series and did not develop much as a character, not to mention she became increasingly annoying every season.

I want some who loves me like how eric loves donna

@Iautocorrect

3 жыл бұрын

Just a reminder that you made this comment. See your profile pic with a man and a baby. Hopefully you got what you wanted!

TBH DONNA WAS BEING SELFISH THINKING ABOUT HER SELF

Are you breaking up with me? 2:14 No, you're clearly breaking up with me, by telling me you can't see yourself having a future with me, and that you actually desire and prefer a future void of my existence. After that, saying let's break up is just redundant. You already broke it off when you said that after 3 years you didn't want to commit to what we had. You were just too much of a slime-ball to even carry out your own infidelity.

Good for you Eric! I always hated Donna. She was never happy and was mad in almost every single damn episode. He could've done so much better! Like the girl who wrote her number on his hand, but stupid Donna licked it off 😑

@josebenitez4851

4 жыл бұрын

Bitches ain’t shit bro

@screamrad218

3 жыл бұрын

The girl at the Pricemart ballroom party would’ve been perfect for Eric. Donna was always just so miserable.

@faustrocket565

3 жыл бұрын

What about that one girl who was mistaken for being the panty owner when it was actually midge's? what was her name again?

@rayleigh8

3 жыл бұрын

faustrocket565 her was sexy hot girl

@salmasalute

2 жыл бұрын

She was too forgiving actually. And he was an insensitive bastard always making fun of her! It was too much! He didnt treat her with respect. I think she should have dumped him long ago! What boyfriend lowers his girlfriends pants to show off her panties and embarass her in front of everyone?? And she evwntually got over even that! When u are as childish and as insensitive then u sympathizs cause u are dumb like that urself! Wisemen tell us to be childLIKE not childish. Its a real turn off

This scene made me cry.

@jeffreymullins5392

8 жыл бұрын

Saaaaaaame

I agree with Eric all the way

I get where Eric is coming from.

DAMNNNN DONNAAAA

@albertinepayne4562

3 жыл бұрын

*kelso voice*😭

This happened in both the main relationships, Eric was ready to commit and Donna wasn't and Jackie was ready to get married but Hyde wasn't

@ioanna1934

6 жыл бұрын

Ironically enough, Hyde was the one to get married first, and not Jackie.

@atribecalledlen3567

5 жыл бұрын

Jane Ιωάννα ay! We don't talk about the 8th season

@JujusRus

5 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure that was Kelso.

@jarekgunther

5 жыл бұрын

@@JujusRus It was both. Though, Kelso was much more hesitant than Hyde.

@ethansolorzano5989

3 жыл бұрын

@@ioanna1934 actually Fez was the first but it doesn’t really count cause it was for a green card

she wasn't right to call the symbol of their love a stupid high school promise. It down plays the feeling that he has for her like they were just temporarily. it that was the case why even take the ring and make all those plans. that's messing with someones emotions.

Right in the feels.

The "If we're meant up together we will end up together" for me, probably the lamest reason you want to break up with someone but kinda still hoping your partner chasing you back so your partner can accept your own terms. I agree with Eric, if you want end up together, than you must be together with your partner.

this whole thing happened because of what Jackie said that freaked Donna out. Jackie is a master in making people miserable

i absolutely hate that people saw him as the bad guy when donna literally couldn’t see him in her future, she honestly didn’t deserve eric he was amazing i like the underrated ship better:eric and jackie

@terrlol6181

3 жыл бұрын

Jenna Ramirez Eric and Jackie?

@jeremiahtelot

3 жыл бұрын

Terrlol i wanted that to happen jackie and eric would be amazing

@terrlol6181

3 жыл бұрын

Jeremiah Telot in my opinion i don’t think so but if u like that that’s cool

@faustrocket565

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrlol6181 I've always wondered how that would've gone, especially in that one wedding shopping episode. They actually looked nice as a pseudo bride and groom.

We see Red come out in Eric here. Eric for the most part may be aloof and rebellious against his dad's hard-ass ways, but he has it in him too. Eric draws a hard line here, makes a hard rule, his way or the highway.

ive always loved Donna and Eric together. you can really see how much they love eachother. but cmon now, if you’ve ever experienced being in love , you would know Eric isn’t the bad guy. what Donna said definitely hurt him. he was right. this scene urkes my soul bro. it’s heartbreaking.

I love this show and all I can say is I'm so mad how they put Eric as the bad guy Donna was only thinking of herself and she had been so rude and disrespectful in ways Eric had to just give up on arugements and have mistreatment yet love her and did all he could Eric was sick of it . Donna still kisses him wow ._.

@DannyCosmos

Жыл бұрын

team donna all day everyday...eric was being insecure.. bro its high school...

@bobbymcjoey9432

9 ай бұрын

​@@DannyCosmosbro insecure? She was unwilling to commit...so the relationship was pretty much pointless.

The show did this twice to Eric and made it seem like he was wrong. After Kelsos brother when she only wanted him after kc dumped her

@sebastianemond5313

3 жыл бұрын

I hated that part too. Eric was not the bad guy for saying no to her advances when Donna was dumped by Casey. She was not thinking straight, and Eric was trying to have respect for both of himself and Donna.

Honestly I don't know why Eric was treated like it was a terrible decision. I can heavily relate to what he's saying. Like what's the point of dating someone if you can't even see yourself having a future together?

I think Eric did the right thing. Donna was acting like she didn't see a future with him. If she can't see that, then there is no point in continuing their relationship

from personal experience, when a girl says she wants to talk to you, and then starts the sentence with umm.....what follows is never good. its bad news....I felt so sorry for Eric in this episode. I can relate, unfortunately.

Donna is kind of a jerk for treating Eric that way. Eric was completely in love with her and wanted to take steps towards making it official and Donna made it seem as if they were only together by chance and tomorrow their might be another chance that they won’t. That sort of thinking is really hurtful to someone that’s in love. She made it seem as if their relationship was trivial and just some random chance and that it might not even work. I guess Eric should have given her affirmation and reassurance but he got mad in the moment and let that cause him to break up with her. Eric was dealing with a wishy washy type of female and unfortunately that type of person isn’t a stable ground for a solid relationship.

If you ask me, they both have valid points about the future. At least here. Personally, I'm more with Eric more cos prior to this moment, Donna treated Eric like crap and completely dominated him in the relationship. Not to say that Eric's completely innocent though. Sure, he can be a little chauvinistic and immature at times, but _DAMN._ Donna overreacts to the simplest things Eric does whether it was out of his hands or not, she never brought up to Eric why she publically announced that she doesn't have a boyfriend while on radio, which leads to Eric's distrust in the first place, she ditches Eric at the Ted Nugent concert and doesn't feel the need to apologize for it when called out on it, and she constantly tries to derail Eric's chances of moving on and dating another girl while she goes out with Casey.

Props to him for breaking up with her. This is the correct move.

To people wondering, it was normal for high school couples to consider marriage shortly after graduation in the 70s. It stopped being that way at some point when everyone went to a four year college and had to pay off student loans. Nowadays people hold off on marriage until their late 20s - early 30s.

honestly i know everyone is mad at what donna said, but i understand. they were both so young and never dated any other people. when you’re that young planning your life with someone is not exactly healthy. it’d be different if they were in their 20 or 30s. they were 16.

I never wanted them to brake up

@CasperTheTryHard

8 жыл бұрын

"Brake"

@dominique603

8 жыл бұрын

+Casper Bahahahaha dead

@blackbutterfly233ify

7 жыл бұрын

Quincy Gabriel-Baptiste break***

Both of them handled that the wrong way. Donna was very selfish in her logic in that relationship. Eric was a little selfish to push but he had a right to push it a bit so that they could get it out there. He needed to know where they stood future wise. That way he doesn't waste his time. Now that he knows she was planning their future without him, he can plan his future without her. In the mean time he can date other women and possibly find someone who will see things the same way. So the break up was warranted and if I was Eric I would have dumped her too. I'm not going to do things according to a let's see where things go, that way of doing things leads to commitment issues later. Love in itself is commitment. You love them, commit to it. With that being said, I believe that Hyde was full of crap, he's my favourite character, but he was full of it. Eric didn't screw it up with one of the hottest chicks in point place. She screwed up the relationship the moment she started planning her future without him. He helped bring it an end by pushing her a bit, but rightfully broke it off. She wasn't committed, he was. I personally believe in predestination, but that doesn't mean it works without effort on both sides. They could be meant to be together, but if they don't handle things right, that can cause things to take longer than necessary and they could lose a lot of time together. I've seen this with my parents life.

@mr.bellefleur

6 жыл бұрын

Fala Crow I don’t read long KZread comments but 💯💯

@dreadnought_official_YT

6 жыл бұрын

I rewatched everything and it progressively gets more annoying that they always use eric as a punching bag even when he is not wrong and reasonable. They say he blew the relationship when the ring was a symbol of not only love but security and she overcomplicated it as if she were putting on the “ball and chain” referenced later on in the show. Which is a double standard because she called it a stupid highschool promise as if it really meant nothing but it was clearly given much more meaning than it deserved in her mind. A serious relationship isnt really worth having without security. Plus she always took advantage of his kindness and played him against himself using his feelings for her all the time. Pissed me off. The time eric rejected her was the most satisfying part of the show.

Such great acting like I can see both sides like idk which side to agree with both have good points

For everyone saying Eric was being too "pushy" that's not true. He just knew that the time was fast approaching when they all basically move on from High School and go down their paths, and his insecurity led him to make a hasty choice with the promise ring. I know how Eric feels because this same thing happened to me where I got impatient and broke up with the girl I loved who was going to go "study abroad" for a year. It sucks major ass when you see things moving apart, the tides of life seemingly separating what was once a simple relationship between 2 people who always had circumstance on their side being neighbors and going to the same schools all their lives. But then once that changes Eric brought into question whether or not their love was stronger than paths and circumstance. Donna was unsure of this, and it sucked for her too because she did love him but she didn't have the same feelings about setting the future in stone. All in all, they both got screwed at this point

The way she said yes felt so real

This scene just rips your heart out and sets it on fire before stomping it out with army boots and sweeping the ashes into a dust bin.

WE WERE JUST STUDYING!! Wait wrong episode

Exactly Donna says oh I love you alot but doesn't see Eric in the near future that's no surprise as well basically if she went to a college in another state she'd want to sleep around and that's like most as well.

This hits home, was a damn good watch and a humbling reminder that relationships often come to emotional ends like this

I love the deep discussions that are going on in the comments

Donna is seriously so annoying and immature. She gets mad at Eric for the smallest stuff, then her selfish ass puts her career over their relationship and then she gets upset because Eric wants to have a future with her ?! Girl, make up your mind. You don’t get into relationships like they’re some sort of part time job. You either go fully or you don’t.

Eric didnt break up with her. she did so he just said it

Awww💔 eric was right! Donna you messed up😥

right in the feels

Good for you Erik. You stood for yourself

I've had relationships like this and its tough. Because 1. You are at happy stage in the relationship and you don't want to things to change. 2. You are afraid that its all going to be the same and no progress, no change, just the same thing over and over again. They were both in a place where something had to happen or things would deteriorate and sadly this had to happen. They needed to know where each others places were right now or else they would have woken up one day and realised she could be someone better and he could be committing to someone who was ready. Eric had to force his hand because he found someone worth keeping and sometimes you have to, things don't just happen unless you take action. Donna had to say no because sometimes committing to something you aren't mentally prepared for isn't a good place to start something long term. You start getting doubts which is never a good thing. Sadly their relationship was never in sync after this breakup, which was evident during the final seasons. Them getting engaged, breaking up, seeing other people, Eric moving away, Donna moving on. The saddest part of their relationship is that they can never be separated, they live next to each other and always have been together. It's hard to let go something so comforting and so safe, when it demoralises you and hurts you back.

That's how a GIRL BREAKS UP with you. Push you to the point where you ended up breaking up with her. She's free and YOU'RE DOOMED.

This actually broke my heart. Reminded me of how things went down for me. Opened up some scars that haven’t fully healed. I watched this show to laugh man smh

2:01 "I mean DAMN, DONNA" sounds like kelso

@elegate87

2 жыл бұрын

You know what? You’re right!

Why is she crying? Like what did she think was going to happen? That she would give the ring back and Eric would be like “It’s okay Donna! I like having my time wasted!” 🤪

This scene will always make me so sad. I swear I tear up every time. I've loved them as a couple since the beginning. I know they are just acting but it's just such good acting that you feel the pain man

I loved this show so much as a kid I watched it going through high school and in my first relationship this scene hit me really hard.

I'm 100% with Eric on this one.

Someone from a stable home trying to date someone from a broken home, but to young to understand...

You can’t be in a relationship with someone that is free spirited. They want to move with the world and have no boundaries. That just screams someone who is unstable.

I feel like the first time I watched this I thought, thats a stupid reason to break up. And that could be right, because they are young. Its probably been 5 years since, and rewatching the series now I think Eric had every right to break up with donna over it. You don't want to spend 5 or more years hoping she changes her mind and maybe she'll see a future with you. I probably thought otherwise 5 years ago because I was younger but man is 5 years a long time when you really think about it.

I honestly can relate to both of them with Eric more than Donna. To be in love with someone and then have them treat you like that is terrible. I can understand the nervousness that Donna felt, and I wish more than anything that she had thought through this before proceeding with it to save both of them the heartbreak of losing each other.

"If you can see a future for yourself without me and that doesn't like break your heart, then we're not doing what I thought we were doing here and ykw may be we shouldn't be together at all"

Donna with the crocodile tears. Lol

@jason20599

Жыл бұрын

she still had feelings for him

Erik, the True King of Wisconsin

i know exactly how eric feels, i felt like this for 2 months straight until i ended everything, yet its still my fault some how, eric had every bit of sense to feel mad, she literally tells him she sometimes sees a future without him

I think the thing he is that they are both in the wrong. Donna just wants to live in the moment. She can't control what happens in the future, and the last thing you want to do is promise your significant other things that are not assured in life. Mostly because they are young. Eric in the other has expectation way too high for them just being in high school. They should have both lived in the moment and not worry too much about the future.

You did the right thing Eric

Everyone that disses hard on Donna, I urge you to recall that they are in HIGH SCHOOL. They are KIDS. That’s a pretty big commitment to ask right as you’re beginning to come into yourself as a young adult. Sometimes it works sure, but she’s no villain for not wanting her future set in stone before she’s even had a chance to get out into the world. I can see that being scary for Eric but as with most things I feel it would have been better if they had sat and talked about it.

@DannyCosmos

Жыл бұрын

thats what im saying. eric is being a drama queen. its fucking high school bro...

@MiketheNostalgicGamer

Жыл бұрын

She basically said she saw no future with him and would've eventually dumped him. Donna was wrong and tried mental gymnastics to justify her decision. Eric had every right to be upset.

@kerlifan56

Жыл бұрын

@@MiketheNostalgicGamer sure! Eric has a right to be upset, a breakup like this is extremely upsetting. I’m just saying Donna isn’t a bad person for telling him she doesn’t see a future with him. Not every relationship is meant to last and it’s better to be open and honest about your feelings. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@parkerboy795

Жыл бұрын

He wasn't asking her to marry yet. He just wanted the relationship to continue in the future. That's not really an unreasonable level of commitment.

2:00 I mean if a girlfriend doesn't see a future with you no matter where they end up,what's the point of a relationship?Just a experience to live to tell a story??If so,then no wonder the human race in this generation in relationships is so corrupted.

When he slams his fist on the car after that I didn't know if could keep watching the series.

This scene is really a statement of real first young love. Eric isn't being realistic in his concerns here. They are like what 16-17 here? There really is no way to know if you are going to be with this person forever. When you are that young people and feelings can and will change. Yet I totally understand where he is coming from here. I also understand where Donna is coming from as well. Sure its nice to dream of a love that last forever but some people want to experience more in life. And sometimes those experiences are meant to be on their own. I had a similar experience with my ex in college. I was happy just being with her for as long as we could be. But eventually she wanted to experience more things in life. Things she wanted to experience without me. It still hurts to this day and this was like over 10 years ago. You move on but I don't think or know if you can ever really get over it. It just became one of those things you learn to deal with and you move on with life. What I found weird about the show was Donna was portrayed as the one who wanted to go out and experience the world. And then Eric is the one who winds up doing that. I get Topher left the show and that is just the way it had to be written since the show continued. But it kind of changes up the perspective for this scene.

@karajohnson572

4 жыл бұрын

ManMonkey600 that’s exactly what I was thinking, here Eric is all upset Donna wants to have a future for herself, but by the end of the show he leaves to pursue HIS career without her and then breaks up with her.

@buk5053

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. No. It's ok to observe this perspective from a future standpoint. But lets not pretend that Eric or Donna should've been mature enough, or had the foresight to see that what they had was probably just the first of many monogamies. That shid is just pretentious. Donna wasn't enlightened. She was just selfish. Let's stop pretending that females are smarter than they are. There's nothing benevolent or insightful about what Donna did to Eric. At least when Eric decided he wanted more, he had the decency to break it off and not make Donna do it, so he could look like the victim. Fokc Donna. Bech asst Donna.

Breaks up over a promise ring, proceeds to buy an engagement ring and she says yes. ...... this shit just doesn't add up

Then she plays victim and leaves crying. Yet she initiated it. Not everyone is down to play that “idk what I want” game.

Things happen and you wake up one day and twenty years have passed.Too little ,too late.All you're left with at the end is your regrets.Some things are not meant to be.

I feel you see Eric's heart break at 1:36 by that look on his face. Combo of anger and pain I'm his expression

Still one of the most painful breakups ever 😞💔

I'm sorry but I never liked Donna

@yourstruly7086

5 жыл бұрын

Hannah Maxey same

@TheArcher101

5 жыл бұрын

I never thought much about it when I first watched the series a few years ago but now I'm rewatching it, with an older and more learned perspective about people and relationships, she pisses me off more often than Jackie does - and that says a lot because I can't stand narcissistic and vain people

@LilyZerep

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheArcher101 Same here! When I first saw it, I thought Donna was ok but now rewatching the show, I'm liking Donna less and less. I honestly prefer Jackie, who is way more entertaining and upfront about her personality and tells people like it is.

@TheArcher101

4 жыл бұрын

@@LilyZerep - right? The marriage counseling thing always sticks in my mind. Not only is she making Eric go despite his open wishes but she says very openly the only reason she wants to go is to have her ego stroked by having a stranger tell her she's right about everything - not to actually get the bottom of any real issues they have as a couple and hopefully fix some stuff - all self-aggrandizing ego

@langdonalger9219

4 жыл бұрын

Is it because of her huge Wile E Coyote feet?

His “you know what?!” felt like he was calling her bluff. He wanted her to back down and retract what she said, but she didn’t take the bait.

Eric was so perfect I just love him

The whole gang and Red antagonizing Eric for dumping her is the reason I jump around S3 in recent rewatches. I also hate how they ended up making him a vagrant, despite him being responsible. She's entitled to feeling the way she feels in not always seeing him there. A lot of it ends up being puppy love, anyways. However, Eric is within his right to be with someone who is seen as his equal, and that is willing to navigate life's challenges together.

People saying they both aren’t wrong to do what they did aren’t exactly right. Eric was clearly willing to make compromises as long as they stay together but she showed that it wasn’t in her interest. Saying “I don’t know what I will want in the future” is not a good answer or a good mentality to have. Prioritize the people you love above your status. It’s okay to not know what kind of life you will want to lead but you should know who you want in your life.

I could have cried like that :(

I always thought this was a great scene what really makes it is the acting by toffer grace

I get both sides and that's what is so painful.