Was WWE buying WCW a good thing for the wrestling business? Let us know in the comments!

@McPoshSquatch

2 ай бұрын

Hell no! It killed the business!

@matrixrevolution2600

Ай бұрын

Nope!

@carlos_herrera

Ай бұрын

I'm interested to hear the argument from anyone who says yes

@earlofdrumer1851

Ай бұрын

No. It killed professional wrestling.

@huepfheld

Ай бұрын

It definitely killed the competition. And since WWE no longer had a ratings war to win, the quality declined in the long term.

Anyone should have been glad to had Macho Man

@pinkribbonskies5731

2 ай бұрын

He came with the slim Jim deal. Of course they were glad

@ryankeefe2102

2 ай бұрын

Dude signed randy savage and with slim jim not only got him for free but more than likely made a profit on the deal thats just awesome

@datacipher

Ай бұрын

@@ryankeefe2102yes he’s talked about it many times in 83 weeks. He says it’s the easiest no-brainer deal ever. Randy reached out to Hulk - unhappy bc Vince didn’t want him in the ring. The money comes out zero-sum cost, and they get a mainstream sponsor and Randy Savage. Big win all around.

@datacipher

Ай бұрын

@@ryankeefe2102in addition Randy wanted Lanny to have a contract but agree to have Lanny’s money come out of Randy’s money… so even though they had no spot for Lanny, it cost them nothing as well.

Its a sad day when no1 in the crowd remembers the macho man slim jim commercials 😔

@CuteLesbo69

Ай бұрын

This was done in England, do they even have Slim Jim's there?

@sykocase247

Ай бұрын

@@CuteLesbo69 i doubt it...cuz of how bad as they are for you 🤷‍♂️

@RG-lr4pk

Ай бұрын

UK smarks. They don't really know much about wrestling despite how much they act like they know.

@tomlebomb

Ай бұрын

I don't think so no, I definitely never saw a slim jim ad on tv in the 90s in England

@reallymakesyouthink

Ай бұрын

​@@CuteLesbo69I don't think we do. Maybe it's on a shelf in the supermarket somewhere but certainly not something we'd see an advert for.

Saw a Slim Jim ad the other day and they still have Randy in them.Guys been gone 10 years and they still feature him!

Saw a Slim Jim the other day at 7/11 Macho Man was on the package 😊

Signed Randy Savage for free. Overpaid for Brett Hart, then misused him.

One reason why the Hulk v Flair thing didn't really draw was Hogan didn't want to lose to Flair. Flair said in his book they wanted to do three ppvs and Flair was happy losing two but winning one. Hogan said he wanted to win all three. That didn't work for me brother.

@afdcg

Ай бұрын

All of Hogan Vs Flair PPV and House shows did well. Superbrawl 9 was one of the highest selling PPV of WCW. The others also did very well. You can check the buys on websites. Hogan drew well with almost everyone. The PPV without Hogan actually did bad. Maybe Starrcade 1998 with Goldberg as the champion and not having Hogan on card was an exception. Hogan was the biggest draw WCW had. There is no doubt without Hogan WCW would never grow. The death of WCW was more of Eric overpaying many wrestlers who weren't drawing a dime. The real reason for WCW death that isn't mentioned anywhere is WWF was on top of its game in storylines. WCW hardly had anything good by late 99. It was the reverse of 96 and 97. With WWF being hot and WCW getting cold killed it at wrestlings peak.

@reallymakesyouthink

Ай бұрын

@@afdcg which ppvs didn't have Hogan on exactly? He held the belt forever despite nobody caring about him anymore. Refused to lose cleanly to Sting when it mattered, refused to help younger guys get that top spot. Just a selfish man who only thought of himself.

@afdcg

Ай бұрын

@@reallymakesyouthink Nobody cared about him so he drew so much money. He sold the biggest PPVs. What's selfish about Hogan? He drew money so he was the champion. Why would he job put people when he could sell better than them. Jealous wrestlers of the 90s hating Hogan is a thing. But fans thinking Hogan should have jobbed out others is beyond weird. Hogan was a star so he was the champion.

@reallymakesyouthink

Ай бұрын

@@afdcg he was on all the ppvs. He didn't sell them.

@chrismccoy6481

Ай бұрын

​@@afdcg😂 that would make sense if EVERY wrestler who has dealt with him didn't say the same thing. "That doesn't work for me brother." Ffs Hogan was like 60 and didn't want to let HBK win 😂 one of the greatest performers of all time in HBK. Hogan fans are delusional AF, dude had 4 moves and one of them was "hulking up." You guys hug his nuts just like Bischoff when in reality the dude was big and couldn't wrestle worth a fuck.

So Macho wrestled for what he was signed for, but basically spent his time and effort doing some Slim Jim commercials for free? Got it... The former WWF Champion should've got both and made 1.5 million a year he was worth it. R.I.P. to the Legend

@carlos_herrera

Ай бұрын

No, slim jim paid wcw 750k to be an official sponsor and get stuff like 'welcome to monday Nitro, brought to you by Slim Jim, snap into it, up next its Johnny B Badd taking on the Shark.' Macho got 750K from WCW plus whatever Slim Jim was paying him

@RatedRcny

Ай бұрын

@carlos_herrera that is not what Bischoff said. He said Macho came with 750,000 from Slim Jim so he got him for free. He did not pay him anymore. Pay closer attention or don't but I will not continue to debate this.

@carlos_herrera

Ай бұрын

What he said was " Randy Savage's contract was $750,000 a year; that's what I signed him for. The slim jim sponsorship was $750,000 a year. I got Randy for free and I got a deal on Slim Jims." There's no need to debate with anyone who thinks that means that Randy Savage didn't get paid by Slim Jim for doing ads for them. Bischoff is a bit glib here, but he has talked about it length in other interviews, that he, as head of WCW, broke even on signing Savage because Slim Jim agreed to a sponsorship on WCW TV (the kind of thing I mentioned in my first comment,) once Savage came over. That deal had nothing to do with Savage's pay from Slim Jim for appearing in their ads.

@Cultofpersonality09129

Ай бұрын

@@RatedRcnyhe’s full of $hit. Savege was making millions a year in the 80’s. Hogan was making $15+ million ever year. Probably five a year just on merch. So bichoff signed Hogan for less a year than he made at one PPV. GTFOH.

Eric lying through his teeth. He was hogans yes man.

@robertvallejo5819

Ай бұрын

🤝 💯

It just kinda came together naturally. Hogan's gimmick was getting a bit stale in WWF. Savage wanted to compete but Vince thought he was done. So Randy left too. And they invigorated WCW. And WWF was going through a rebuild. Wanted to get younger. PLUS HUGE THING ALSO. Vince just got off on a major steroid charge. And so he was going to go the more natural, smaller guy route like Brett Hart, Shawn Michaels. The timing just worked right. And WCW became bigger than WWF. The issues for WCW wasn't when Hogan came in. It was later right before he left.

@willglenn8638

Ай бұрын

Macho Man in the attitude era would've been so badass but like you said Vince thought he was done, Vince was wrong, I loved macho mans feud with DDP

@user-pu9bp7tp9x

Ай бұрын

@@willglenn8638Macho Man would have slipped into the Attitude Era like a glove just based off his natural charisma. but he'd been in WWF since the 80s so it was understandable Vince wanted new blood and WWF was brimming with it

Bischoff: I'm not signing your friends Hogan! Hogan: "That doesn't work for me brother."

hogan and savage were both territory guys before wwf(e)

Shoulda brought in gobbletygooker

Anybody know what the Slim Jim deal was? I always heard it was for $500,000.

@jeeprenegade1985

Ай бұрын

Bischoff said here, it was $750,000

@curthennig9448

Ай бұрын

@@jeeprenegade1985 I can't trust Bisch here.

When you can add the Macho Man to your league it's like getting magic or Larry Bird but in the wrestling world think they had HOGAN , FLAIR , MACHO and that might have helped win 83 weeks plus you add HALL & NASH sorry we should be watching WCW today

I was a loyal WCW fan going back through the NWA from the 70's. Once Hogan signed I lost interest.

@thedogwoods5716

Ай бұрын

🙄

@benjaminmartin9073

Ай бұрын

Because you we're use to boring.

@toma.4808

Ай бұрын

Right because wcw didn't suck before he arrived.. Hogan joining wcw made them so much more money and boosted their ratings.wcw was a sinking ship. especially when he turned Hollywood and joined the nwo. Now if you been watching 70s on, you'd know they kicked wwfs ass in ratings for over 80 weeks with hogan as their flagship something they could never do with Crockett, herd or Frye in charge

@djangofett4879

Ай бұрын

​@@toma.4808pre-NWO wcw is underrated

You're no boss or leader. You followed Hulk Hogan. He ran the show. You ran it right into the ground. You had some of the biggest names in wrestling history and no idea what to do with them Giving them the worst gimmicks possible while Vince had the same exact talent and made them shine and into all time greats. Brutus the barber should have stayed with Vince instead of going with Hulk to wcw in 1993

@toma.4808

Ай бұрын

Steve austin Triple h Kane Undertaker All of them in wcw. All of them stupid gimmicks And they wonder why they lost the war Beefcake was booty man,disciple and zodiac in wcw. They turned earthquake into a shark. Kevin Sullivan ran the special peoples club. Bischoff was hogan's yes man

@curthennig9448

Ай бұрын

@@toma.4808 Mick Foley.

I love when WCW came out with the NWO with the bad guy Hulk Hogan and the black in his beard and the bad guy image along with Kevin Nash, etc.Another wrestling organization that crumbled was ECW.

I feel like you can only trust about half of what Bischoff says

@curthennig9448

Ай бұрын

Maybe 35% tops.

Such disrespect for Macho Man.

I doubt he told you made up story crap hide his fault and bad decision led to wcw downfall.

Hahahahahahaha 🤣

With other ppls money.

let's go Brandon 😂

WCW had huge stars but never had substance. They were weak in storyline.

@alanguages

Ай бұрын

Among other things, like production quality. WCW had smaller rings, crappy lighting and bad camera angles.

@abelaldrich7831

Ай бұрын

I agree it was bad in comparison to WWEs production more professional that's why they lasted all these years

Good business move..bad ethically i feel..macho man i feel was the best..at least top5 ..should have payed him more

I love Slim Jims cuz of Macho Man RIP my fav wrestler we miss u man

Such BS

I call BS.. You know dang right that you wanted Macho Man and the others. They made WCW what it was.

@datacipher

Ай бұрын

Man there are some ignoramuses in the comments. Eric never said he didn’t want savage. He had gone over this in minute detail in 83 weeks. He didn’t go looking for Randy, Randy called hulk looking to come over. Hulk asked Eric if he’d be interested and Eric said: of course. Eric made the deal and it was the easiest deal he ever made bc slim Jim sponsorship made the deal a break even for wcw and they got savage AND a mainstream sponsor. He always thought savage was a great personality and wrestler and was happy to have him. Maybe you need to stop listening to the fantasy voices in your head… you’re responding to fantasy narratives. The only people Eric saw no value in was Brutus and honky. He fired honky, and kept Brutus for hulk’s sake even though he came to despise Brutus - the final straw was seeing Brutus urinate on an airplane… acting like a disrespectful idiot child (though Brutus eventually double crossed hulk and even hulk turned away).

@D.AverageJoe

Ай бұрын

@@datacipher the only ignoramus is you. Read the title of the video. It says he was FORCED to bring in Hogans friends. Don't get mad at me get mad at the video maker.

@FernandoMartinez-pv1id

Ай бұрын

No, the NWO storyline was the draw. Its called storytelling. Do you watch a movie because an actor you know is starring in it or do you watch it because it looks like a great story?

@user-pu9bp7tp9x

Ай бұрын

@@FernandoMartinez-pv1idi followed WCW once Hulk and Savage went over and enjoyed it immensely as a kid way before NWO happened. to each their own

@FernandoMartinez-pv1id

Ай бұрын

@user-pu9bp7tp9x you did. But others didnt. The ratings dont lie. Same thing happened in TNA. Some people were interested and stayed, others left when they realized they weren't doing anything interesting. The story matters a lot more than any one wrestler.

Hulk Hogan didnt draw a dime until he turned Heel. Nobody draws a dime based on name alone. Its all about story.

Saw a Slim Jim ad the other day and they still have Randy in them.Guys been gone 10 years and they still feature him!