I went with the Hydrow. Have a dedicated workout room, love the visualization of being on the water and motivation of coaches. Also, nice bonus of yoga, Pilates, weight training and stretching programs. Perfect for a 73 year old female just trying to stay fit.

I ordered a Hydro a few days ago and expect a delivery mid-March. It seemed like the best fit for me. There isn't a perfect rower out there. I wish I had the classes and comfort from Hydro, the data driven graphics of Ergatta, ease of storage of a Norditrack, the water sound of the Waterrower, and the credibility and legacy of the Concept 2.

Great review!! Originally I was very interested in the Hydrow...more sleek and modern but then I started seeing ads for the Ergatta and compared the two. I just ordered an Ergatta for three basic reasons. (1) The whole experience buying one of these higher end rowers comes down to the workout model and the Peloton-ish trainer model is really not for me. I really liked the idea of the rower learning from my calibration and building a workout progression based on that. (2) The sound. As you're rowing, the water sounds like wave action which can put me in a zen place. (3) If I just want to hop on, listen to the water sound, and row, the Ergatta has the scenic open rows and the Hydrow does not. While I do wish the Ergatta had the wider foot and higher hand placements, it may not be too much of an issue for me (shorty short short here at 5'1"). Also, the larger display would be nice but a 17" display is nothing to scoff at. Now I'm just anxiously waiting the 2-4 weeks for it to arrive.

Thanks for the video...helped us make a decision! We went with a water rower and the ergatta add on as it saved some $$$ but still got full experience. Absolutely love it. I really enjoy the swish sound the water rower makes as makes me feel more in the element. Main reasons for our choice were the natural wood look and the focus on data/improving our goals. Not interested in someone yelling at me on the screen.

@mrvanced6628

2 жыл бұрын

What's this ergatta add on? If I already have a water rower, how do I get this add-on?

@danieldumas4518

2 жыл бұрын

Was the add on easy to install? It doesn’t see. To make sense to buy the ergatta if you can buy a water rower and add the screen and save some $$$

@HackWeight

2 жыл бұрын

@@danieldumas4518 I did just this. Bought the Waterrower from Amazon and the upgrade from Ergatta (bottom of their website and click "Upgrade your Waterrower") to save some money. The add-on is very easy to install. Mostly just unscrew a few screws from the Waterrower, insert a part, and tighten it back in. Then a few screws to attach the tablet part. The entirely thing folds down exactly like the standard Ergatta in case you want to put it away.

Shane this was a GREAT review, I really appreciate your honest thoughts here.

I would go with the Ergatta because it's basically a WaterRower with a big iPad on it. The Hydrow is gorgeous, but I'd be scared to do a hard workout and break something - the more electronic components something has, the more likely something will break.

Fantastic review. I really appreciated how in-depth you went w the programming/ app end.

@ralphalanis5793

3 жыл бұрын

It seems to a bit biased review. It almost seems like you tread on giving information on both but then favoring Ergatta on how beautiful and light it is. Ergatta is extremely noisy and especially if you live in an upstairs unit or have room mates that appreciate their peace and quiet, it's not going fly well.

Honestly I am still considering swapping my concept 2 with a waterrower because the swooshing sound is so nice and relaxing lol

Excellent review. I have been considering the Ergatta (new to rowing with weight loss as the primary goal). After this review, I'm definitely going to move forward with Ergatta due to their data visualization and gamification aspects. I also love the water sound as well. Your detailed breakdown of the specs really helped me decide. Thanks again!

Great comparison video. I'm 5'1", LOVE stats, and new to rowing. Ergatta will be my investment piece.

Excellent comparison video! Thank you for not shortchanging the details, especially regarding the "experience."

Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the Aviron rower

Wish concept 2 would come out with a combine of the two! The periodised experience as well as instructor-led drop-in and on-demand classes. I would pay for that. A concept 2 with a tablet and a library of workouts and programmes, ideal.

I'm a cyclist, and during Covid I've been riding on Zwift the whole time. The data driven feedback you get from Zwift, I feel I would only be getting from the Ergatta. The Hydrow, for me, sounds more like fitness-entertainment. Also, I love the way the water rowers sound. It's just sounds so soothing and rewarding. Thanks for a great comparison!

That regatta seems pretty nice - thanks for the in-depth review- very well done for sure

I just bought a WaterRower Club w/S4 on Amazon ($1065) and Ergatta upgrade ($589). Saved about $600 and the WaterRower will be here in like 2 days, the Ergatta upgrade will take about 3 weeks to deliver. I like the Ergatta concept because I am more interested in gamification and visual data-driven programs vs a rowing coach classroom experience. My wife has a Peloton and I couldn't get into it because I don't enjoy the "live class" format/community which is a big part of why so many people love Peloton.

I have the waterower for last 6 months and love its performance. I agree with what you have said regarding its performance. Good tool/machine

This was super helpful. Thanks Shane.

I love my WaterRower and with a laptop to watch your workouts it's the Ergatta. I'm 6 ' 195 Lbs and have no problems with fit or comfort. There are apps for stats that give all the info one would want as well as the stat monitor that came with the rower. Taking care of the water isn't a problem a small tab of chlorine every couple of months and I've never seen any algae. There is a maximum fill line so to get more resistance just row harder. Tons of workouts on the web so one doesn't need a subscription.

Thanks for the video review! I was leaning towards the Ergatta and I’m moving forward with purchasing it!

New to rowing. My Ergatta is coming next week. Can’t wait. Great comparison video.

@USAisLife

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Anthony, I am new to rowing as well and am looking to get a machine sometime in the near future. Ergatta is definitely one that caught my attention and I was wondering how you like yours? Does the feet placement feel uncomfortable, are there things you don't like about it? Thank you!

@anthonymasone4826

3 жыл бұрын

@@USAisLife Hi Chris, I love my Ergatta. It is a great workout and a lot of fun. Great community of people too. The feet placement took a little getting used to but now I have no problem rowing for long periods of time. I definitely recommend it.

@USAisLife

3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonymasone4826 Awesome, I'm glad to hear that; thank you very much!

First time rowing machine buyer. I am gravitating towards the Ergatta. I like the graphics and instant feedback. I've never been a person who is motivated by personal trainers. Some people are some people aren't. I've done cross fit in the past and liked the idea of competing against my own time. From what I have seen the Ergatta is more tailored to my personality.

I think that I need to buy the biggest I-Pad and attach it to my C2. I can’t take trying to watch Dark Horse vids anymore on a teeny I-Phone. Great video!

You can buy a wider handle for the Ergatta, which I did. Also, the drop off on split and stroke rate could be due to the sensor becoming disengaged. There’s a video online waterrower has out there on how to “lift” it to make contact again. Simple thing to do and might be the issue. Also, the big kahuna seat helps make the catch feel better along with dropping the feet. I went with Ergatta because I live in nyc where space and noise are both an issue so Ergatta fit that bill. If those thing were not an issue I would still go for the Ergatta because I like how it holds you accountable for what you’re capable of and helps you progress vs just flailing away on the machine. Loving the Ergatta so far, but damn, it does squish the boys! -Chris

@niiikom05

3 жыл бұрын

link to big kahuna seat?

@MakingaStink

3 жыл бұрын

@@niiikom05 use Shane’s link in the description here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4ln086Jiafad5s.html

@niiikom05

3 жыл бұрын

@@MakingaStink Thanks! do you also have the link for that fix on how to lift

@MakingaStink

3 жыл бұрын

@@niiikom05 this one does the job: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lJ-Y0a6qk5DIfMo.html

@ssssssssstu

3 жыл бұрын

My biggest worry is noise as I’m in the city too. No complaints from roomies or neighbors? Haha

Amazing review. Decided to go with the Ergatta due to the beautiful software technology design and because it’s $29 per month. After hearing both, I prefer the sound of the water swishing compared to the hydro and because of something breaks on that hydro, that’s going by to be a pricey fix. Also, I haven’t seen any 2nd hand ergatta sales around my area whereas I’ve seen at least 2-3 hydros around my area. Let’s goooo Ergattta!

Wow, love your review of not only about the machines but the experience of using them in depth as well. And I subscribed ➕ 👍

@DarkHorseRowing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

I'm leading toward Ergatta. Like the idea of the soothing sound of water and the data-driven display is more my style.

@xris423

3 жыл бұрын

Any ideas of mold growing inside the water container? Also if my husband and I work out on this machine do we have to keep adding and taking away water

I'm new to rowing and got the Hydrow a few weeks ago. I love being able to see the water and have the coaches motivating me. It is keeping me engaged and motivating me to use it almost daily.

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

How is it going for you now? I'm thinking the Hydrow is for me now based on the content and long-term engagement.

@lesliesharpe8656

3 жыл бұрын

@@vonettadevo, it's still going well. I'm still very motivated to row and do on the mat workouts.

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

@@lesliesharpe8656 That’s great. Enjoy!

Just my 2 cents worth: I have had a Water Rower for 14 years and it has not required any maintenance (except dusting). It has not required any tablet purifiers (best to store away from direct sunlight) and please - you do not need to add/subtract water to change resistance. That is a complete & utter falsehood. Last year we bought a NordicTrack treadmill and a subscription to iFit. I have just ordered the ‘tablet arm’ from Water rower for £50 and will attach an iPad to watch the iFit rower modules. Clearly, not many people are likely to pay different subscriptions for each exercise hardware equipment. Also, watching a large screen whilst undergoing the rowing movement is not comfortable on your eyes so I’m not convinced that big is best in terms of screen size. Just my thoughts.

@dannybeuker

3 жыл бұрын

Got my water rower for 3 years now I think. Agree with everything above. I use the tablet arm with a samsung galaxy tab and the smartrow kit. And compression shorts are a good idea to wear.

awesome review thx man

Thanks for this video! I'm now leaning toward the Ergatta and after chatting with one of their reps today and doing more research, I think I am ready to make my purchase. The 8-week delivery time is not great but expected, so I am going to focus on my other exercises until I get it. I like the content on the Ergatta better and will supplement it with Apple Fitness+ rowing classes. Looking at the Hydrow in person at Best Buy last weekend didn't really sell me on it. And watching people rowing will likely bore me quickly. UPDATE (12/30, 8:37 pm): After many more hours of research and user reviews, I am switching to the Hydrow - I do prefer seeing the instructors and nice scenery vs. seeing data on a screen which would probably bore me after a while and not keep me as engaged. The Ergatta is gorgeous though. I plan to keep the Hydrow in my living room and it's fine, it matches my Macbook :)

@missmoto4290

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have another update? How are liking the hydro?! Is the weight an issue or have you kept it stationary? Have the classes kept you motivated and engaged? I love the look, ease of mobility, and sound of Ergatta. However, I do well in studio classes versus having the discipline in keeping with a data driven regiment. Thanks for your input!

@vonettadevo

2 жыл бұрын

@@missmoto4290 No, no further updates, I didn’t get the Hydrow.

@missmoto4290

2 жыл бұрын

@@vonettadevo thank you for your response

I’ve had a water rower for about a year and I very excited about my ergatta upgrade. Actually arrived today. I really liked the fact that the ergatta appeals more to my competitive nature. I also figured that while looking at someone rowing on the water looks great, I’m still in my basement😁.

@birazan

3 жыл бұрын

Is the ergatta upgrade package ($550) all you need or are there additional items you need to purchase to update the waterrower to an ergatta?

@Geo-vi7ce

3 жыл бұрын

@@birazan it is a connected upgrade. There is a $29 per month membership that is discounted to $229 for the year if you pay upfront.

@johnkrummrich4948

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Is there a hdmi I put on the monitor

@Geo-vi7ce

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnkrummrich4948 is does have a HDMI port.

I worked in heavy industry all my life. The sounds were brutal. The Hydrow sounds a bit industrial to me. I use a water rower at the gym and as another comment states gives you a bit of a Zen state. Im going Ergata.

I think you just swayed me from the Hydro :) Thanks for the detailed review!

Ergatta for me. Appreciate the review and a great break down. Really made it easier to choose.

Great video. I ordered an Ergatta because I don't think I'd like the instructor led experience and like the idea of the progression and gaming approach..Also liked the looks and sound, I think there is a value in being able to use it as a meditative or "zen" tool as well.

if ergatta could adapt there monitor to work with my concept2 I think that would be more interesting

@denisdore643

3 жыл бұрын

I thought I was the only one thinking like you. As I look at the number of thumbs up on your comment, I really hope that C2 will go this way or encourage a third party to develop an app/program that could do a similar job connected to the PM5.

@richardp5971

3 жыл бұрын

Bit of a curveball, but it’s possible to use Zwift with a PM5 (PM5 to phone with ErgData app, then connect Zwift to phone). Bit of a faff, but one gets the workouts/training/racing from Zwift, and it’s quite stable. There’s just the incongruity of ‘rowing’ up hills, but it’s a cheap way to try and convert the Concept 2!

@BirdseyeVu

3 жыл бұрын

I tapped on comments to offer this exact thought! I would totally pay for the hardware AND the monthly subscription for this on my Concept 2.

@heatherkirk5171

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@IllustratedManOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree

I find it interesting that the Ergatta carries a higher weight capacity for bigger people but is ergonomically smaller with the narrow foot placement and smaller handle that would make it harder for bigger people vs. the Hydrow.....am I missing something here?

@rysi7

6 ай бұрын

Can get a wider handle for the waterrower/ergatta.

Great review that hit all the key points for making a purchase decision. I am still leaning toward the Hydrow for the interactive rowing experience. Exertainment appeals to me because I think it will help with consistency! That is my failure point with exercise...lack of consistency! Thanks for sharing your experienced rower perspective!

@rysi7

6 ай бұрын

Hydrow does have an app that can be used with any rower.

This should be a textbook example of how graphics can enhance and not be the feature of a PowerPoint presentation. I'm also digging those pants, what are they?

After being on the Concept2 wait list for almost 2 months I bought the Hydrow. My reasoning is, I'm not a pro and I like the look and quietness of the Hydrow. Also, because I don't know what I'm doing I figure the Hydrow's instruction will help keep me going in the right direction. Also, I'm a sucker for technology even though there is a pucker factor with these, I call them Silicon Valley short-term-always-looking-to-sell, Companies...I hope that is not the case here.

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

How are you liking it now?

@joanie22192

3 жыл бұрын

@@vonettadevo I've had a Hydrow since Sep 2020 and still LOVE it. Best investment ever for my health.

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

@@joanie22192 That’s great. Happy Rowing!

@cvnis957

3 жыл бұрын

@@vonettadevo It's really fantastic. After 6 days of having it I have over 30,000 meters in (I've never rowed before). I can see how the Hydrow is not for everyone whether that's because of the cost of entry and ongoing service cost, or they want/need the "standard" of the C2 around the world but for me, it's a fantastic piece of equipment and I really enjoy it every time I sweat. During the nearly two month (COVID) delay I watched SO many DH videos, Training Tall, & C2 videos on proper form and it was incredibly helpful once I got the Hydrow. Hydrow has good off-rower workouts too which I do. Personally, I don't feel $450/yr is much to have access to all this for a year. And yes I'm aware if the company service gets shut down I'm SOL but...I'll cross that bridge if/when it happens. They got $25M pumped into them for growth less than a year ago so here's to hoping for many years of service.

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

@@cvnis957 That’s really good to hear! I think it’s not a lot to pay either if it’s keeping you going and you’re enjoying it. So glad to have all these videos and helpful comments when doing research.

I think I’m leaning more towards the Hydrow, and reviews comparing it with the Aviron? That seems like maybe a good blend of both? Not many reviews out there for it that I’ve seen so far

Very helpful and informative review. Covered everything I’d want to compare between these machines, really helped cement my decision to purchase an Ergatta.

would be awesome if they release a PM6 with these kinds of features. I want a lot of these features but dont want to row on anything but my concept 2.

I've had the waterrower since 2015 and added the Ergatta monitor in 2021. As I have increased my rowing I do feel the WR is not easy to get a proper stroke on. The foot placement in relation to the seat makes it hard not to round the back on the catch. Amazing software, but concept 2 just seems to promote a better stroke.

I went with the Hydrow and I've been enjoying it so far. I like being able to sync up my strokes visually with the trainer. I like the sound and the resistance and mechanics feel good to me. The Hydrow does include a *bare* minimum interaction with its 5 min calibration row. basically you row as hard as you can at 26 s/m, and they send you an email where the avg/500 from that row becomes your "Sprint" pace, and gives you a run (+10 sec), jog (+20 sec) and walk pace (+30 sec). I got a 2:06 on my first calibration row so my paces are sprint- 2:06, run-2:16, jog-2:26, walk-2:36 Coaches will use those words to describe the effort on diff intervals, but it's all on you to make use of this and hold yourself accountable. I would rate this as just barely more than nothing lol, but since I did it I've been getting better workouts. Obviously it's miles behind the ergatta, but you can sort of do what the ergatta does in your head if you have the discipline One note is that I'm not really impressed with the chair and track on the Hydrow. The track feels like cheap plastic and the chair is on cheap plastic wheels. Sometimes the chair is louder than the resistance and it feels bumpy

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

How are you liking it now? I switched from the Ergatta to the Hydrow based on the content they offer.

Dang. I like both of them equally for different reasons. I am totally new to this. Never rowed before in my life. Has the interface of the Hydrow changed since this review? Anything new or different? I love the whoosh sound of the Ergatta and it's sleek interface and beautiful interface. It's expertly done. I also love the live workout feature on the Hydrow. I'm split evenly down the middle on these two machines. By the way, you have adorable ears.

Is one better for a Tabata style workout? Does the hydrow only have resistance when it’s “on” as in the screen and a class selected, or could you ignore the on screen class and just row at your own pace? Edit. Literally just got to the interval part of the ergatta review, lol

Thanks for the comparison. Does one of these have a better feeling of actual rowing on the water? It sounds like the Ergatta functions a little better in the training (versus fitness), is that correct?

Thanks Shane, this is a great review. Stick to my C2, because i do not like subscriptions fees and the C2 community and challenges keeps me enough motivated. That said. still dreaming of an C2 upgrade, where they keep the hardware, but upgrade the software to a new experience like the water rower. Lets wait a few more years, sure it will come. Greetings from Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia.

Great review! Are you going to be doing a review on The Aviron Rower? They seem to be the Best of all worlds for Rowers

Have you seen the Lit Machine Rower? I’m looking for a beginner rower, I enjoy it but been stuck watching videos and reading reviews of all these rowers. I’m considering the ergatta but wanted to ask you what would be your personal choice in a start up. Lit machine looks legit and is a water rower but it’s a brand new company with not that much reviews outside of their website

I want to purchase a concept 2 but funds are a little tight at the moment. Is there an alternate version you can recommend that is similar to the concept 2? Not over $500? I hope you answer this.

If I wasn’t going to get a Concept 2 I would go with the Hydrow. I’m a beginner and those classes are important to me. The Ergatta was more of that experienced rower feel.

@G3ekbox

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve learned you can actually download the hydro app on your own device (iPad, etc) and follow along classes if you pay the subscription fee with any water rower you have. The only issue is that the data and auto-resistance tracking features will only be functional with an actual hydro machine. this gives me the idea of buying a “water rower” base with a tablet attachment and if ever needed, use the hydro app for instructor lead classes...just to change things up from time to time without being committed to the hydro rower.

@missmoto4290

2 жыл бұрын

@@G3ekbox that’s a great tip! Do you know if you can utilize the heart rate monitor with the hydro app?

I am thinking about the Ergatta but I hate how there is no coach or someone to motivating me. I love rowing but I can get bored after a while. I love love love how the Hydro has recordings where it’s like you’re actually on water. I think that would help keep me engaged.

Good review, but please talk about the subscription base of each one. I went with Ergatta because it's built on a Water Rower, so if you decide you don't want to pay for monthly subscription, you can at least still use a Water Rower just without data. Pretty sure with Hydrow if you don't pay subscription you have a non-functional piece of art. Also, I ended up just buying a Water Rower from the company (Water Rower is company name) and Ergatta allows you to just purchase the screen attachment. Saved me like $600 by getting a cheaper model and no shipping cost from a local fitness store.

@aaronboggs5799

3 жыл бұрын

Great points - I was going to comment on the subscription aspect as well, as it is an important consideration for a lot of people when looking at a piece of exercise equipment. Personally, I hate the idea of paying an ongoing fee to use something I've already purchased, but if the company continues to deliver incremental value (new workouts, features, etc.) then I can accept an ongoing cost. There is a cost difference between the two subs - $38/mo with the Hydrow vs. $29/mo (or ~$24 if you pay annually upfront) for the Ergatta. The cumulative difference becomes significant over time. One last consideration - if you start with a WaterRower base, you can buy the Ergatta add-on separately. This brings the added benefit of being able to ditch the Ergatta component down the road if desired and revert back to the (admittedly basic) data functions of the built-in S4 monitor. You may even be able to recoup some of the cost by reselling the Ergatta bundle (e.g., eBay), though not sure how much of a secondary market exists, as this is a pretty niche product. This is what I'm considering doing, as I've recently gotten a WaterRower through their rental program and am pretty underwhelmed with the S4 capabilities. If I decided to hang onto the rower long term (former Concept2 guy, so still getting used to the experience), I'll likely add the Ergatta kit down the road.

@reggiehil

3 жыл бұрын

@@aaronboggs5799 I have owned a water rower for over 7 years and recently added the Ergatta and its been my favorite purchase in years! I'm a gamer so this is in my wheelhouse. One thing to note is if I cancel my subscription you can still use the tablet in open row, which is MUCH better than the S4 monitor. My Ergatta add on came in Dec and the company has upgraded multiple times. They have improved the lag Shane was referring to and also added a new "game" called Meteor that is really fun and will challenge you! The company says they will continue to improve features and add challenges...so far I haven't been disappointed.

I am thinking about Ergatta, because I am results oriented and am always competing against myself so that sounds like my machine. You did not mention the Cost of Subscription. Ergatta is $29 a month or $290 for the year and Hydrow is about $360 for the year, but the first year is Free.

I am leaning towards hydrow- I’m new to rowing and need the coaching!

I’m very curious of your take on the push programs that Ergatta offers. How well does the collection of workouts help you reach the intended goal in your opinion? How would you assemble workouts differently as a coach? -Chris

@DarkHorseRowing

3 жыл бұрын

Great question Chris. I haven't worked fully through any of their push programs yet but from what I've seen the biggest part is that you're organized and geared towards the overall length of time or distance. I wish I had a better answer at the moment but I haven't been doing much directed rowing training lately as I've been more on the strength side as of late personally.

@HackWeight

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who recently bought an Ergatta and have been working through their Push programs, I think they are quite well done. For beginners, there's a couch to 1k program. It might start you out by rowing for 10 minutes at a "paddle" speed (the lowest) based on your calibration. The next day you do another 10 minutes, but this time it has you switch between "paddle" and "steady" intensity for a few 1 minute chunks. Maybe the next workout it increases time a bit. It might then give you a short race. Sometimes it even tells you that after this workout, you can rest tomorrow. By the end of the 15-day program, you feel ready to do the 1k race.

are those cracks in the head frame? Looks like there are. Total cost of this machine seems to be 2199, and, until 5/31/21 they are giving free shipping to Military and retired Military. But, Hydrow is giving Military 10% off and free Shipping

Seems like a cheaper option to buy a waterrower($1100) and the ergatta extension($550) for a total of $1650 than the ergatta itself for $2200? What am I missing here?

@jeffr217

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm going to do. I bought a used (almost new) Waterrower for $750 and adding the Ergatta seems to be affordable.

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

I think that is what I will do. Can get my WaterRower sooner too and then get the extension later.

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, I chatted with Ergatta today and the comparable model is $1500, so with the add-on, it's not that much more and is fully integrated instead of retrofitted. And they assemble and install it, which may or may not be worth it to you but is nice for those of us who want it ready to row after delivery.

@birazan

3 жыл бұрын

@@vonettadevo I do not see any other model on their website. Where can we purchase a comparable Ergatta model? Also - yes it would be great to have the ergatta delivered and assembled for us but this is directly from their website - “Your Ergatta will be assembled, delivered and installed by a professional. $199 shipping charge applied at checkout.” I don’t think I would want to pay additional $199 for it.

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

@@birazan The Oxbridge model is the closest to the Ergatta. The cherry wood is more appealing to me and matches my apartment well. This is standard pricing for this type of service, for example with Peloton. But I get it if you wouldn’t want to pay for it and would be happy with the WaterRower and the add-on instead. Happy rowing!

@darkhorserowing .. if the hydro had the data.. and the errgata had more room… which would you choose and why?

What happens if they go bankrupt or stop supporting older models and they turn off the servers, can you still use it manually and setup your own programs. Concept 2 is the Toyota of rowers sold do not have to think 🤔 another second sold

@cvnis957

3 жыл бұрын

Agree. My mechanic tells me to buy a Toyota or Subaru and being a car enthusiast I understand why. I like different and the obsession of safety which I why I chose Volvo. Are they going to last forever, no. Are they fun, enthusiastic cars, no. But they are absolutely wonder vehicles to drive and help keep us safe on the road.

@reggiehil

3 жыл бұрын

@@cvnis957 I've had my water rower for over 7 years and I just added the Ergatta. It's solid as a rock and will last years. If you research water rower you will find they are very durable.

And when do you test the Augletics Eight rowing machine?

Is there no C2 app that gives you Ergatta style data and training?

Wouldn’t a water rower be… umm, like you can build up speed and get the water going which lowers the resistance? Almost like making a whirlpool in an above ground pool? Like the momentum of the water spinning lessens the work you have to do per stroke?

Hi, I just bought a Water Rower from ebay. It is a wood machine with a flat water tank. It looks very nice; but I bought it so I could get in a good workout. I paid $400 for it and I think that it is well made, I am disappointed in the amount of resistance it gives. This is a topic that NOBODY talks about in their reviews. The Water Rower gives me about 1/4 of the resistance I need, and I don't see the Ergatta having more resistance becuase it is also based on the Water Rower. Tell me which machine pulls the hardest!!! Thanks, Mathew

i would love an ergatta app that i could pair with my concept 2

If I did the ergatta, I’d have to pee half way through😂

@aditisiddharth6472

3 жыл бұрын

That was my thought too!

Ergatta is wobbling like an old broken chair

@denisdore643

3 жыл бұрын

Right on! Noticed exactly the same.

@MakingaStink

3 жыл бұрын

Shane’s a monster rower tho. -Chris

That split in the Ergatta wood makes me cringe. How did that leave the factory like that?

@davidhunternyc1

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I saw that too. Pretty awful. Also, cherry wood is ugly for a lot of people. How about offering it in walnut or maple too?

if ergatta had wider foot placement it would be perfect for me, i think

for me both links are broken, maybe its just me, but here are the sharesale errors: regatta: "The link is not currently active", hydrow: "There is an error in your link code."

I have a Watterrower that I love so the Ergatta has more appeal.

I went with the Ergatta about two weeks ago, and after years with a Concept, I wanted to try something new and the water noise was intriguing. My only lament, beyond the mentioned compactness: I am now older, and it seems the “tailored” programs are overridden and assigned for my age instead of my calibration results. I have done two 2000 meter calibrations and despite splits at 1:55, the remaining assignments are absurdly easy, and are suited for someone with one working lung. There are still plenty of interesting things to do on it, but I’ve been frustrated that the training does not match with the calibration for me.

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

How are you liking it?

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankhugh2052 Yes, you can.

@tomm7854

3 жыл бұрын

@@vonettadevo I’m learning to use the programs and am liking it more as I gain familiarity with them. There is a “free row” session and I’ve used that to take advantage of the extensive training offered by Dark Horse here on KZread.

@vonettadevo

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomm7854 That’s great, thanks.

I wish ergatta would make an app for android. I would love to use that on My concept 2. Plus they would make tons more money off subscriptions.

Have you done ergatta vs Aviron?

No sub vs sub hmmm up front cost on both approximately $1k difference depending where you buy, so water rower for the win plus love no sub and the sound of water in motion! It’s a no brainer let’s be honest here! Unless you like to waste money for no good reason! Water rower or C2 for the win done deal!

Please have a look at the RW 900 which is air and magnetic resistance.

Are you/have you gone to crash b?

omg yesssss.

When you complain about a screen being to big within the first 5 minutes....

Second time is saw that transition I left

Please start a channel on Rumble as well so that the many leaving KZread will be able to continue to follow you.

You have to CLEAN the water inside a water tower??? Holy crap my mind is blown. Why is that?? Isn’t it self contained?

@mandygaedtke

2 жыл бұрын

It brings to mind when I was a kid and had one of those baby dolls filled with water. Those are self contained, and no light gets in, and after a long time the water inside gets nasty. Like, really nasty. This is clear, so light gets in possibly speeding up the funk. Water gets gross over time so it needs the tablets. Upside, the Ergatta website says that they provide them for free.

@rysi7

6 ай бұрын

Have yet the need to change the water. They recommend keeping it out of sunlight. You don't necessarily need to use the tablets.

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Probably worth comparing all of the WaterRower upgrades www.waterrower.co.uk/waterrower-digital-fitness SmartRow, Commodule (which these apps support WaterConnect , CityRowGo, Coxswain and also works with Garmin watches) and Ergatta

Hello! What about ProForm 600?

What about the Nordic Track RW900 which has a 22-inch monitor and on the water as well as indoor gym coaching. The RW 900 is similar to the Hydro and was manufactured and on the market long before either one of these machines that you have there, yet no mention is being made of them and persons are being led to believe that the tech is new. Nordic Track has been there a long time.

@Rescue9156

3 жыл бұрын

I'm no expert but... NordicTrack used to be a very good name, until they were bought out by "fitness" giant Icon Industries... Icon is known for absolutely TERRIBLE customer service and support

Update. Buyers remorse. I've had several problems with my Ergatta in the first 6 monts of owning it. So far I've had to replace 3 wheels, one motherboard and the monitor. The company has been good about responding to my issues and sending me replacement parts, but there is a delay of a week or more because Ergatta has to get their parts from Waterrower who is the manufacturer of the rower. It makes me wonder what cost are in my future after my warrantee expires. More recently, Ergatta has chosen Colin Kaepernick as their company spokes person. The last thing I wanted in my rower is a political or Social Justice message. Both my wife and I have stressful jobs and just want to row when we get home. We have decided to sell our Ergatta and purchase a concept 2.

Which does your wife like using better? I think we need a females opinion

Can I put dirty clothes and laundry detergent in the ergatta water tank? :-)

Buying Hydrow because 1) I don’t want a piece of equipment that looks like it’s from 1986 living room in my house and 2) Ergatta using Colin Kaepernick as a spokesperson. Really?? My hard earned dollars not going to support a company that agrees with that man’s point of view. He’s not a rower, not even a successful athlete and the ONLY reason to make him a spokesman is to send a political message.

If concept 2 is the Toyota of rowing machines that is the one to buy. Toyota’s can last a million miles with little maintenance, Toyota and Honda are the best built cars in the world. American cars are junk German cars are overpriced poor quality Expensive to repair junk. Stay with the concept 2.

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