Epsilon Delta Limits in 4 Minutes

An explanation for understanding how the delta epsilon definition of a limit is derived! We have to think about what it means to approach a particular value.
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  • @stop4683
    @stop46833 жыл бұрын

    this was actually so helpful. thank you so much! ive been watching a lot of epsilon delta videos since my teacher’s lecture made no sense and this is definitely the clearest one i’ve found so far

  • @GuideInTheTrees
    @GuideInTheTrees3 жыл бұрын

    I watched this twice and I now understand half of it. Progress!!

  • @leokeatonn
    @leokeatonn3 жыл бұрын

    Oh thank god, my prof just sort of dropped this on us last week and I had no idea what I was doing. Its really helpful to hear the _context_ in which these problems exist so that I know what I'm looking for and why I need to do certain things.

  • @jasonzechengpan4491
    @jasonzechengpan4491Ай бұрын

    Thanks! Extremely clear and concise explanation.

  • @gopackgo4036
    @gopackgo4036 Жыл бұрын

    Easily the best epsilon delta on youtube, I would say even better scripted than 3B1B's brief explanation. Well done.

  • @TrackopGaming
    @TrackopGaming4 жыл бұрын

    That was a truly brilliant explanation.

  • @moazzamjadoon4436
    @moazzamjadoon44363 ай бұрын

    I have a comment to make. When solving the questions we find a value of epsilon from |f(x)-L|, such that, it is in terms of |x-c| and some other constant term(s). This establishes the connection between the |f(x)-L| interval and |x-c| interval. Now if we squeeze |x-c| interval then |f(x)-L| interval gets squeezed too, since those two are connected. When we can establish this connection through algebraic manipulation we say that the limit exists. Geometrically this makes sense. When we narrow the interval around c the interval around L gets narrow too. Also remember: |f(x)-L| and |x-c| are intervals.

  • @korwi7373
    @korwi73733 жыл бұрын

    the fact that his shirt says the video is just really cool

  • @queena594
    @queena5943 жыл бұрын

    YOU JUST SAVED MY LIFEEE !!! Thank you so much x

  • @alejrandom6592
    @alejrandom65923 жыл бұрын

    I had to watch some parts multiple times but it was worth it, I think I finally got it :D

  • @maryamsl5571
    @maryamsl55712 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. What a clear explanation! Amazing teacher!🙏🏻

  • @sebastianmellen6784
    @sebastianmellen6784 Жыл бұрын

    By far the best video on this topic.

  • @BuddyNovinski
    @BuddyNovinski Жыл бұрын

    Kudos to our distinguished young man! I never had this concept in calculus, and the Schaum outline series didn't help. Why don't they teach it with visuals? I am visual, and this approach helps tremendously.

  • @rozentecson6036
    @rozentecson60364 жыл бұрын

    Thank for this vid. Really need this😍

  • @delfi7077
    @delfi70778 ай бұрын

    I watched like so many videos and this is the only that is good to explain

  • @oraz.
    @oraz. Жыл бұрын

    You explained it really well

  • @111222333Marko
    @111222333Marko4 жыл бұрын

    Superb explanation :)

  • @nathanisbored
    @nathanisbored4 жыл бұрын

    0:25 - 0:50 was especially impressive, the word choice was very clear and concise. I could tell that took a few takes, and not just cuz of the jump cuts. How much time do you spend on "scripting" these videos?

  • @MuPrimeMath

    @MuPrimeMath

    4 жыл бұрын

    I spent a lot of time on this video in particular because I was trying to keep it short while still giving good intuition. In general, for my concept explanation videos, like this one and stuff in the vector calculus series, I spend about 1-3 hours on the "script" before I start recording!

  • @sevalsunisi6691
    @sevalsunisi66912 жыл бұрын

    how do we shoh that limit approaches to infinity is undefined

  • @alannolan3514
    @alannolan35143 жыл бұрын

    Thank you . Maths I get. The language of maths scunners me.

  • @Bhaal22
    @Bhaal223 жыл бұрын

    really cool explanations. need your shirt ;) tks man

  • @user-jx2jj1ek3h
    @user-jx2jj1ek3h20 күн бұрын

    Hi, where did you get that tshirt?

  • @mariomuysensual
    @mariomuysensual4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks dude!

  • @Adam-wm4ys
    @Adam-wm4ys4 жыл бұрын

    When we are explaining the problems with it and we suppose the limit is m instead of L, are we considering |f(x)-m| instead, and saying that there will be an epsilon such that |f(x)-m|

  • @MuPrimeMath

    @MuPrimeMath

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes!

  • @AmrMuhammed137
    @AmrMuhammed1373 жыл бұрын

    Thank you ♥️🌺

  • @Stephen_2330
    @Stephen_23302 жыл бұрын

    Where did you study math?

  • @terefechali326
    @terefechali326 Жыл бұрын

    thank you so much!

  • @chandramathematicspoint8491
    @chandramathematicspoint84913 жыл бұрын

    How do we show that lim(|x|+1)=1 as x approaches to infinity?

  • @rokettojanpu4669

    @rokettojanpu4669

    3 жыл бұрын

    i assume you mean x->0 not x->infty. we must find a delta in terms of epsilon that satisfies the implication in the definition. doing some scratchwork shows that a suitable choice is delta=epsilon

  • @divermike8943
    @divermike894323 күн бұрын

    Well I understood but I needed more than You 4 minutes. That's what replay is for.

  • @joetursi9573
    @joetursi95732 жыл бұрын

    This stumps so many first year students that it's brushed over in many colleges.

  • @RealMathematician21stCentury

    @RealMathematician21stCentury

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's worthless garbage that has no place in any study of calculus.

  • @micro-playsquitted4132
    @micro-playsquitted41323 жыл бұрын

    This guy's vid is perfect 4:00 mins

  • @muglymae7408
    @muglymae74084 жыл бұрын

    So you’re saying that this formula helps find a range of numbers that you need to locate something?

  • @MuPrimeMath

    @MuPrimeMath

    4 жыл бұрын

    The purpose of the limit is to describe the idea of what a function's value approaches as the input approaches a certain value. For example, f(x) = x^2 approaches 4 as x approaches 2. It's useful because we can describe what a function approaches even if it isn't defined at the limiting input!

  • @yusufnar6454
    @yusufnar64543 жыл бұрын

    ur a hero

  • @_eagleofsuger_4631
    @_eagleofsuger_46313 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @sudheerthunga2155
    @sudheerthunga21554 жыл бұрын

    1:00 why do you say 0.1 or 0.01 ~of L~ , I am not sure I understand why should it be multiplied by L

  • @MuPrimeMath

    @MuPrimeMath

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wasn't talking about multiplying by L; when I said "a value within 0.01 of L", I meant an output f(x) where |f(x) - L| or, in other words, a value with a difference from L of less than 0.01. You're right that multiplying by L would be a little strange!

  • @sudheerthunga2155

    @sudheerthunga2155

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MuPrimeMath Thank you so muc for replying, thanks!

  • @jeffrey6322
    @jeffrey63224 жыл бұрын

    is your white board a wall painted with a "Whiteboard-like" material?

  • @MuPrimeMath

    @MuPrimeMath

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm using a board from writeyboards.com/products/premium-whiteboard

  • @carljorgensen8489
    @carljorgensen84894 жыл бұрын

    Try cutting the video less, otherwise a super great video

  • @ianp4476
    @ianp44764 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful!

  • @Oscar-vs5yw
    @Oscar-vs5yw Жыл бұрын

    God thanks, gonna watch this 10 times though cuz this is really not registering with me.

  • @markomatunda
    @markomatunda6 ай бұрын

    I like it

  • @kingbeauregard
    @kingbeauregard3 жыл бұрын

    ... well goddamn, I think it finally makes sense! Maybe? I need to roll it around in my head some more.

  • @kingbeauregard

    @kingbeauregard

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've done a ton of thinking about this, and I feel like what makes epsilon-delta so difficult is that we students don't properly internalize the concepts and basic thrust before jumping into the math. All those inequalities get really confusing if you don't have the basic road map in mind first. After a lot of thought, I've written up the explanation that would have helped me; it omits details but then again so do all road maps. --- In concept, limits are simple: the closer you get to a given “x” value, the closer you get to a given “y” value. The trick is proving the existence of a limit in mathematically rigorous fashion. Imagine drawing a rectangle around the point that you’re testing for a limit. The rectangle needs to be tall enough to vertically contain the function over the entire width of the rectangle; in other words the function never crosses the top or bottom edges. And you also want to set proportions of the rectangle such that you can scale the rectangle down to nothing, and the function still never crosses the top or bottom edges. If you can make a rectangle that satisfies those criteria, you’ve proven the existence of the limit. You have a great deal of control over the dimensions of the rectangle to make this happen. For starters, you may need to cap the width for your rectangle, so that you can focus on a “well-behaved” part of your function without humps or singularities. Putting a cap on the rectangle’s width is fine, just so long as it can scale down to nothing. And the rectangle can be however tall you need it to contain the function at every scaling, all the way down to zero. In fact, the rectangle can be LOTS taller; taller is always fine, the only problem is if it’s not tall enough. SO. If you are trying to prove that the limit of function y(x) is L at x=a, imagine that your rectangle covers the horizontal region between a-δ and a+δ (not inclusive), and the vertical region between L-ε and L+ε (not inclusive). Your job will be to establish a linear relationship between δ and ε, specifically δ as a linear function of ε. And if you have a cap, your δ will be the minimum between the cap and your linear function of ε. If you’re lucky, your y(x) will lend itself readily to showing a linear relationship. If it’s a little more complicated, you may have to employ tricks like representing your function in an unfortunate way (for example, replacing an exponent with one of the definitions of exponents). Sometimes, you will need to take your y(x) and turn it into something guaranteed to be bigger than y(x), and establish your linear relationship against that.

  • @mariashafayat8371
    @mariashafayat83714 жыл бұрын

    in the definition it says for all epsilon greater than 0 that includes values that are not small

  • @MuPrimeMath

    @MuPrimeMath

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's correct!

  • @mariashafayat8371

    @mariashafayat8371

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MuPrimeMath So can u answer this question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/3723800/epsilon-delta-definition-for-restricted-epsilon

  • @MuPrimeMath

    @MuPrimeMath

    4 жыл бұрын

    There is a mistake when squaring both sides. a only applies necessarily when a and b are both positive. For ϵ>4, 2 - ϵ Putting an upper bound on ϵ works because the inequality |f(x) - L| describes a range of values for f(x). Increasing ϵ makes the range larger. If there is some delta that restricts f(x) to a small range, then it will also fit in a larger range.

  • @mariashafayat8371

    @mariashafayat8371

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MuPrimeMath Thanks, I have corrected it.

  • @mariashafayat8371

    @mariashafayat8371

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MuPrimeMath There is another way to reach the same conclusion (delta=4*epsilon - epsilon^) without any squaring see: math.stackexchange.com/questions/3734406/multiple-possible-delta-in-epsilon-delta

  • @giovannimariotte4993
    @giovannimariotte49934 жыл бұрын

    Man, explain the Leibnitz trick

  • @MuPrimeMath

    @MuPrimeMath

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you're talking about the Leibniz rule for integration, I have two videos on that: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i2qOs6-gm5anaNY.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/eYtsmLWMmMa_krA.html

  • @giovannimariotte4993

    @giovannimariotte4993

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MuPrimeMath oh, awesome, You gain one sub

  • @vericak4868
    @vericak48684 жыл бұрын

    o i get it thanks

  • @konchu5221
    @konchu5221 Жыл бұрын

    lol this is kind of convincing me I should not go into a stem field

  • @abhishekkaintura5717
    @abhishekkaintura57173 жыл бұрын

    Return after a year

  • @johnspence8141
    @johnspence81412 жыл бұрын

    My brain hurts

  • @battletwo367
    @battletwo3673 жыл бұрын

    Why use s blackboard when you have shirt, just hang the shirt there and teach 🤣

  • @tippawansomboon956
    @tippawansomboon9562 жыл бұрын

    δ

  • @kronophorus3255
    @kronophorus32554 жыл бұрын

    You talk a bit too fast for me :d

  • @MuPrimeMath

    @MuPrimeMath

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was trying to go fast for this video because I wanted to stay under 4 minutes, but most of my videos are a bit slower!

  • @nuklearboysymbiote

    @nuklearboysymbiote

    4 жыл бұрын

    0.75 replay speed

  • @pinklady7184

    @pinklady7184

    4 жыл бұрын

    Switch on caption or adjust video speed. My studying technique, I usually watch some videos *three or four times.* This works for me. *First time,* I listen only attentively, no matter how difficult the tutorials. Sure, you miss something, if you think that. Unconsciously, your memory bank is absorbing what you see and hear. *RESIST notetaking or pausing allowed during first time listening to tutorial.* Just watch attentively - no stopping the video. At the end of video, take a break of 30 minutes or better an hour or few. Have a snack or do something else. Break helps brain process memory unconscusly. Return and watch video all over all again. Second time listening, still *NO* notetaking or pausing. Listen attentively. Break of 30 minutes or longer. Third time listening to tutorials, you may now pause or rewind video and make notes. You can do that next day, if you like. Sometimes, you remember better at later times.

  • @-danR

    @-danR

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@pinklady7184 " take a break of 30 minutes" That misses the issue of the OP, and this is a 4-minute video.

  • @elenazxd
    @elenazxd7 сағат бұрын

    the way you hold the marker is very distracting

  • @jacobhouston1655
    @jacobhouston16553 жыл бұрын

    The boy was too technical.

  • @flippantfishtaco3132
    @flippantfishtaco31323 жыл бұрын

    This went way too fast

  • @mauluahk634
    @mauluahk63410 ай бұрын

    handsome 🥹

  • @katcrews999
    @katcrews9992 жыл бұрын

    thanks bro!