Episode 170 ... Albert Camus - The Fall

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    11 ай бұрын

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    @divelostmind Жыл бұрын

    This concept hits too close to home, I feel like I have adopted personas my whole life to avoid real judgement of my actual authentic essense, and recently I have been put into many situations that test my value systems and always ended up not doing the thing I thought I would do. Causing some cognitive dissonance. This episode really made me reflect.

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    Жыл бұрын

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    @mrpzak

    11 ай бұрын

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    Thankyou for covering this, its a miracle, I just finished this book

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  • @l.arabak
    @l.arabak Жыл бұрын

    I got halfway through the novella when I was in year 10 and have never had the motivation to pick it back up. So glad this was covered. Steven, please do more Albert Camus. Signed, a person who lives off your podcasts

  • @PatrycjaCzardybon
    @PatrycjaCzardybon Жыл бұрын

    thank you for this episode! i've just finished The Fall last night and immidiately went to youtube to try to understand it a little better. honestly i felt like this book's message was very frantic, disconnected from each other, like every scene was critizing other facet of modern life and there was no coherent way for me to grasp it all. i wanted to have a bigger message, instead of a lot of tips and examples of what not to do. and you've delivered greatly on that! thank you, your interpretation and analysis made me realize a lot of things and finally appreciate the book much more. i'll be looking forward to reading it again in the future, with the foresight from your analysis, to hopefully extract even more meaning out of it. this was a great listen and i greatly appreciate your work

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    @KK-up3pq Жыл бұрын

    Your delivery of the the most right and humble wrong person is just perfect!

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    @whiskeyfriends7188 Жыл бұрын

    Mission accomplished Professor West 👍👍 Positive feelings every new episode 🥳

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    @ChaosLierLen Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all your hard work!

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    I'm joining the patreon, I can't get enough of the way you explain philosophy. I'm using this channel as a building block to start reading the books of the great philosophers and be able to understand a bit of what they are saying thanks to you translating their work in more layman terms.

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    Жыл бұрын

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    @TopLobster11 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this 🖤 This is probably my fav Camus book. Would love it if you did First Man next.

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  • @nadazohayr1318
    @nadazohayr131810 ай бұрын

    just finished reading the fall and really enjoyed this!!! thank you!

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    @addytov Жыл бұрын

    thankyou for the series.

  • @WhammyLooper
    @WhammyLooper6 ай бұрын

    Really the only podcast I listen to. Great breakdown of a great book!

  • @franciscomorais7283
    @franciscomorais7283 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your work Stephen!

  • @WheelMarks
    @WheelMarks Жыл бұрын

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  • @jglez6868
    @jglez68682 ай бұрын

    Man I have been following this podcast for years now and somehow didnt listen to this episode, i just finished “The Fall” and I cant express how happy i got when i saw this podcast has an episode about it!! Keep it up brother

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  • @alancampbell9264
    @alancampbell926421 күн бұрын

    Just what I needed to help me understand this book. Thank you.

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  • @geneharvey7
    @geneharvey7 Жыл бұрын

    I like the way you wove the book into your Creation of Meaning series. Nicely done. A great episode and one that has me doing a lot of self evaluation. I have been affected. However, I am not boiling in my own soup yet. I think you're on to something with that phrase.

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    @tortera10 ай бұрын

    Brilliant. Thank you so much for sharing.

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  • @you_cifer
    @you_cifer11 ай бұрын

    Excellent analysis.

  • @musicloverchicago437
    @musicloverchicago4379 ай бұрын

    I know from personal experience it's extremely difficult to be a moral atheist. It requires constant analysis and re-analysis of past actions, the analyses are rarely settled because there are always new pieces of information to factor in. It would be so much easier to be a religious person who has been spoon-fed a pre-written set of morals, do whatever I want, and apologize later to the diety (or its proxy) for the infractions. Sometimes I wish I were that type of person! It doesn't make me weak to wish that though, and I think it's unfair to describe Clemence as weak for wishing it. Life would be so much easier without any of a number of time- and energy-consuming burdens we might bear (like being politically informed, as you mentioned). But I'm pretty sure a person who self-analyzes cannot convert into someone who doesn't.

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    @stevesmith490111 ай бұрын

    This episode was so so good. I don't have the words to express my appreciation for it.

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    @fatemeebrahimi89995 ай бұрын

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    @fatemehansari59583 ай бұрын

    Amazing, thank you 🙏🌸

  • @robinblack9
    @robinblack9 Жыл бұрын

    great video!

  • @christinemartin63
    @christinemartin63 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, you can say "better than anyone else." My favorite novel. (My tears fall for Francine.) I recently memorized Coleridge's "Rime of the Ancient Mariner." I wonder if Camus knew the story of the cursed sailor and his redemption (?). The Clamence's, Jim's, Philip Carey's, Mariner's, Raskolnikov's, and Eschenbach's are some of the most intriguing characters in literature. So many parallels.

  • @davidmcclain7481
    @davidmcclain7481 Жыл бұрын

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  • @ml4173
    @ml41738 ай бұрын

    Thanks man, I just finished The Fall and was wondering if I was interpreting it correctly, your video was a perfect explanation. What else from Camus do you recommend?

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    @danielsumulong8975 Жыл бұрын

    Your voice is similar to “Smalls” from The Sandlot. Fantastic. Thanks for your work

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    @barbarajohnson1442 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting take. The French intellectuals game, I hadn't thought of, the judge pentency (?) Thank you, I am now on board with your site!

  • @benbobo8330
    @benbobo8330 Жыл бұрын

    I prefer to be happy and judged. What a great episode Thank you ❤

  • @TRIXIDUST
    @TRIXIDUST Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @edmundtrebus4084
    @edmundtrebus4084 Жыл бұрын

    This was entertaining, relatably funny and just brilliant

  • @bugsbunny2944
    @bugsbunny2944 Жыл бұрын

    Huh. Thats a great point about people thinking they'd resist Hitler or free slaves while currently doing nothing about human trafficking. I feel challenged.

  • @alenbacco7613

    @alenbacco7613

    Жыл бұрын

    The term human trafficking has become somewhat muddied, under the law I mean. If you do decide to fight human trafficking, be mindful that some laws and organizations hurt victims and supposed victims as much or more then their sometimes nonexistent abusers.

  • @bugsbunny2944

    @bugsbunny2944

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alenbacco7613 how so

  • @alenbacco7613

    @alenbacco7613

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bugsbunny2944 I'm not a lawyer. I suggest you look into it. From what I hear some laws have been written braodly enough that two sex workers sharing an apartment, and splitting the rent, could be charged with trafficking each other. Hypothetically a group of sex workers who pool resources as a effort toward mutual aid, say scheduling baby sitting duties with each other, could be considered a trafficking ring. The term has an emotional charge that some have used for political benefit, often at the expense of the women they want to be seen as saving, who are often arrested and prosecuted as prostitutes regardless of extenuating circumstances or, you know, actually being sex workers.

  • @joeshugabowski1444

    @joeshugabowski1444

    Жыл бұрын

    Human trafficking .. i never met single person who got trafficked. We dont have that where i live

  • @alenbacco7613

    @alenbacco7613

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joeshugabowski1444 I mean be careful who you donate to or support. First do no harm. Also I assure you it does happen where you live, assuming you live where other people live

  • @djm192
    @djm192 Жыл бұрын

    So good!!!

  • @saeed_2498
    @saeed_24985 ай бұрын

    Fascinating

  • @abyzzwalker
    @abyzzwalker Жыл бұрын

    Boy, i need to start reading the Fall soon. It has been sitting gathering dust for weeks.

  • @alirahi8053
    @alirahi8053 Жыл бұрын

    That was gold. Maybe it's alcohol talking but still this was a great topic and made me think. Thanks

  • @mohamedabdullah8266
    @mohamedabdullah8266 Жыл бұрын

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  • @luebird7779
    @luebird7779 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @jamesmaguire9152
    @jamesmaguire9152Күн бұрын

    To me, in reading The Fall shortly after going through The Plague for the second time, Jean-Baptiste's true lesson was that if everyone is guilty, then your only options are to become judge-penitent, and judge everyone else guilty, miring yourself further in guilt, or to forgive everyone, including yourself. Jean Baptiste closes the book by saying he hopes that one day when he finds the drowning woman again, he lets her drown all over again, because he *is* guilty, and he is guilt. The antithesis of a judge penitent would know that they have fallen, know that they might fall again, but still face the new day as themselves, not as a shadow of someone they were once. The Stranger denies meaning in the universe, The Plague tells that while we cannot hope to become saints, we cannot let ourselves become pestilences. And The Fall acknowledges the idealism of The Plague, acknowledges that we are all Plagues, and we have to forgive ourselves and try again. The stages of Camus' writing were titled "The Absurd", "Revolt", and "Love", and The Fall was not a turn in a new direction, but a resolution to what he had already written. How else can we see love in The Fall except in its lesson that we are all the same, and as a hope, that we can love humanity despite our failures? Sartre often demeaned Camus as an ivory tower idealist (himself, sitting in paris and justifying Stalin's death toll as necessary for the future). In the Plague, to me, Camus says yes, I do not live up to my ideal, and you do not live up to yours, but we must love ourselves, and love life, enough to try again.

  • @Watchoutforwerewolves
    @Watchoutforwerewolves Жыл бұрын

    AI art is nuts...did a Samuel Beckett dancing...now it's my wallpaper

  • @transcend1078
    @transcend1078 Жыл бұрын

    I love you man I love your podcast

  • @touyen6470
    @touyen6470 Жыл бұрын

    finally someone explain this clearly :> tysm

  • @robinbeckford
    @robinbeckford Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this piece. I remember being rather irritated by Clement when I read the book some years ago, so I probably didn't see some of the aspects of his character that you mention. As to the AI pic of Camus: The man was born stylish, and wouldn't appear to be eating anything in such a clumsy way. I know it can be difficult to eat pizza elegantly, but (my vision of) Camus would have managed it easily.

  • @Coolgardt
    @Coolgardt Жыл бұрын

    Love love love love love

  • @blavatovsky9553
    @blavatovsky9553 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing

  • @leomilani_gtr
    @leomilani_gtr Жыл бұрын

    I just heard about the chinese room argument by John Searle and I think it's a really interesting debate in days of AI art.

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    @tonystrawberry7024 Жыл бұрын

    👍🏽amazing

  • @chrisegan9088
    @chrisegan90883 ай бұрын

    Forty seconds in and both feet in. ❤

  • @jonathanjollimore4794
    @jonathanjollimore4794 Жыл бұрын

    Its crazy so go with it

  • @edplunk600
    @edplunk6007 ай бұрын

    Perhaps instead of saying "you" say "most people" or "one", because, for example, I like being around people who do think differently from me. It is how I learn and become more open. I say this, because I also have the bad habit of saying "you" instead of "most people" or "one". That said, this is one of the few actually very good podcast out there.

  • @CiscoZero
    @CiscoZero Жыл бұрын

    The clear answer to this episode is stay away from bridges and motorcycles.

  • @enzofranco4634
    @enzofranco4634 Жыл бұрын

    12:18 Values tested 16:45 juzgamos permanentemente

  • @jacobjackson6513
    @jacobjackson6513 Жыл бұрын

    Greatest guy in history

  • @swiip100
    @swiip100 Жыл бұрын

    Uh oh this just sounds like me. Is there a DIY solution at the end of the book by any chance

  • @tchedoumenou1165
    @tchedoumenou1165 Жыл бұрын

    No audio :/

  • @dovydas4483
    @dovydas44833 ай бұрын

    Great podcast on a very difficult to understand book, Camus literary works are full of interesting philosophical concepts although they arent just shoved in your face, you must look for them and think about them.

  • @benjueabba9480
    @benjueabba9480 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the soup Steven

  • @lonelycubicle
    @lonelycubicle Жыл бұрын

    Great video. But how does Clement become a moral person? Just say all his actions are helpful to the vulnerable but his motivations are not good as described by Camus, what does one do to change their motivations? In this case, think really hard that they want to only be motivated by the desire to help the vulnerable?

  • @vans2548
    @vans2548 Жыл бұрын

    Ego protection. Virtue signalling. Echo chambers. We have so many ways to run from ourselves. To seek approval from the outside, that we cannot give ourselves on the inside. But wherever you go, there you are.

  • @TopLobster11
    @TopLobster11 Жыл бұрын

    Not a drinker here. Can you explain to me the importance of Jean drinking Gin?

  • @evanr7102
    @evanr7102Ай бұрын

    Judge Penitent is giving Eminem's 8 mile verse

  • @akulinamackenzie4492
    @akulinamackenzie449211 ай бұрын

    💕👍 my favorite chopin.....🙋‍♀️ 🇫🇷

  • @luky98ification
    @luky98ification7 ай бұрын

    That AI Albert Camus looks rough at 13:00

  • @jesskuhmess
    @jesskuhmess Жыл бұрын

  • @josemariarecalde9984
    @josemariarecalde9984 Жыл бұрын

    Okay so not want the super system or be better than the rest but then that in itself is done because you consider it good, you are always doing what best pleases you.

  • @skykitsu
    @skykitsu Жыл бұрын

    capitalism and religion are doing their best to make slaves. If you're not fighting everyone loses. Great episode keep up the great work

  • @deveneb8409
    @deveneb8409 Жыл бұрын

    Steven west the best

  • @itscarl0zyall1
    @itscarl0zyall1 Жыл бұрын

    Am I tripping or is there no audio?

  • @TorxyElboo

    @TorxyElboo

    Жыл бұрын

    You are right

  • @JosefK29364

    @JosefK29364

    Жыл бұрын

    You arrived too quickly. The audio needs time to process. It's working now.

  • @bart6901

    @bart6901

    Жыл бұрын

    Works now

  • @xyzz232

    @xyzz232

    Жыл бұрын

    The audio works. So you are probably tripping.

  • @philosophizethispodcast

    @philosophizethispodcast

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JosefK29364 Thanks for arriving, everyone! :)