I've seen tons of comments about "Katie NOT being Oliver". I know it's confusing but yes Katie is Oliver. Check their twitter Bio and many other posts, it's been confirmed. I just wanted to state this.

@andreeamoga694

22 күн бұрын

Wait so that means Katie has been Oliver for so long? Didn't Oliver liked Alice tho?

@shadowgamez369

22 күн бұрын

Do u know when episode 1 is coming? Edit:I’m dumb u said I don’t know when it’s out yet my apologies 😅

@andreeamoga694

22 күн бұрын

​​@@shadowgamez369 i think after some months idk to animate it takes a lot so i think after some months im not sure Tho im confuse katie has been oliver this whole time- I THOUGH OLIVER LIKES ALICE-

@rvryics

22 күн бұрын

@@andreeamoga694yes, kaatie is olivers fursona persona or something, kaatie has a partner and decided to make an character out of her. It is Alice

@shadowgamez369

22 күн бұрын

@@andreeamoga694 Alr thank u sir

We got ∆iden Before GTA 6

@BasicPaperTheory

25 күн бұрын

😂

@AliciaSantamaria-q7s

25 күн бұрын

XD

@Mask_edit07

25 күн бұрын

How to make triangle in handphone

@Jesa_Yuki

25 күн бұрын

Aiden is my cousin’s name…

@ItzSoapEater

25 күн бұрын

@@Mask_edit07Greek letters

Aiden:no heart,no feelings,no emotions Clarie:No trust

@gandaakbarrizkyan2302

22 күн бұрын

True🗿

@이슬라일라

21 күн бұрын

*∆iden

@0MG3CLIPSE

20 күн бұрын

@@이슬라일라it’s both ways some people can’t type the triangle

@이슬라일라

20 күн бұрын

@@0MG3CLIPSE oh srry I didn't realise that I thought everyone could do that

@ClaireBloxz

18 күн бұрын

@@Freakychannel1 ∆iden

It would be genuinely awesome if FPE Was a mix of animation and analog horror

@CLICK-FOR-FREE-ROBUX-1093

25 күн бұрын

omg agreed I love analog horror 😭😭😭😭💖💖

@SymbioteZIP

25 күн бұрын

Real, though it does look like it already is, because of the posts, lore, video and Theory's.

@Thomas-d4v

24 күн бұрын

Hmmm sounds interesting I'll keep that in mind

@PelsckoPolesko

21 күн бұрын

the Fundamental Catalogue????

@Addyfox2012

19 күн бұрын

I don't so much want horror. I just want her art.. :

Thank you for telling us about these theories, I’m more interested of this!

@inkbunnie8235

25 күн бұрын

I love your animations11!1!

@Combiety_Animations

25 күн бұрын

@@inkbunnie8235 thank you

@AbbieOnTheSchoolComputer1

25 күн бұрын

@@Combiety_Animationsme too

@BasicPaperTheory

24 күн бұрын

No Problem! It's fun making these theory videos so I can't wait to make more. Also, you have some great animations, Keep up the great work. :) Thank you for this comment. :)

@sonicfannnnnn

24 күн бұрын

​@@BasicPaperTheoryu made theorys better and better

I’m with you, Claire won’t be able to trust anyone 😭✋

@Zipper_tixxy

25 күн бұрын

Ikr 😭

@Megumiwiththistreasue

25 күн бұрын

Could engel change Claire or not?

@Wizza_bacon

25 күн бұрын

Fr

@Canihavepromoe

25 күн бұрын

I would love if Claire and Alice were friends tho

@ClaireBloxz

24 күн бұрын

Yep

3:23 he's just standing there MENACINGLY 😰😰

I have a small theory for this part at 0:54. What if Aiden kidnapped Claire and was going to kill her or Claire wandered into the house thinking it was abandoned? Since Aiden has a lot of weapons it would make sense for her to have a gun. But Aiden didn’t get to torture her yet since Claire most likely escaped. It COULD be one of the peoples ghosts talking to Claire trying to get her to leave so she wouldn’t end up like the ghost. Aside from that I really like your theory’s for the series! Keep up the good work :D

@ChastineSasis

16 күн бұрын

👍

@AidenFPELol

14 күн бұрын

Possibly true? 😅

6:43 RAAHHH WHY IS AGATHA SAD SO CUTEE😭😭😭

@huntponce9663

25 күн бұрын

put an r in front of ragatha what do you get

@bonboopsss

25 күн бұрын

​@@huntponce9663rragatha

@LardCard

25 күн бұрын

@@huntponce9663you get rragatha

@LSSmoon_ye

25 күн бұрын

​@@huntponce9663 rragatha

@huntponce9663

25 күн бұрын

@@LSSmoon_ye bingo

Aiden: No emotions, no feelings, and just doing my job

@Oliverzxw._.offical

25 күн бұрын

Thats what he makes her hot :3

@GracePlays12

25 күн бұрын

@@Oliverzxw._.offical Aiden is a girl

@Zackery23

25 күн бұрын

this is why she is my wife😔

@Aiko_472

25 күн бұрын

@@Zackery23😨😨😨

@juanromanguererecuenca2405

25 күн бұрын

@@Zackery23cap*i think

2:01 "BUBBLE NOOOOOO-" - Engel probably and me

I don't want to live in a world were Oliver is a hero because his literally meant to be a piece of shit💀💀💀

@Real_alic3

25 күн бұрын

Nuh uh

@charlzencooctavez3165

25 күн бұрын

ikr

@JulianMoreno-xy5be

25 күн бұрын

Whats exactly what I was thinking 😅

@Strackedout

23 күн бұрын

Witerwy

@jamesoxendine1253

21 күн бұрын

Isn't it just paper?..

I'm flabbergasted that an animation of someone's characters has a whole fandom

@sairey_pillow

21 күн бұрын

real, I'm kinda jealous

@Frogii_Anna1

20 күн бұрын

This was my goal in my OC creation for over a year. So far all I got are binders full of OC’s and a few compliments.

GRAHH I LOVE ALL UR THEORIES AAH Claire done messed up

@BasicPaperTheory

25 күн бұрын

Thank you so much! Yeah I think Claire might have some explaining to do later on :(

@Milkit_yt

25 күн бұрын

@@BasicPaperTheory frrr (ywww!!!!)

@SillyFandoms

24 күн бұрын

​@@BasicPaperTheoryReally hope she can make things better and fix her mistake!!

Everyone is gangsta until I spilled water

@juanaduron9894

23 күн бұрын

Their not paper😭it’s her art style and they literally jumped into a pool of water?😭😭😭

@Greenland-Drip

22 күн бұрын

@@juanaduron9894 bruh it a joke

@nothingness12332

21 күн бұрын

@@juanaduron9894 it’s called fundemental PAPER education???

@Sanrio4lifers0

20 күн бұрын

​@@juanaduron9894 they had their plastic support on😉

@gracevillaruz2235

17 күн бұрын

​@@nothingness12332 ITS STILL A DAMN ARTSTYLE

I would love to see Fen and Alice fight each other, and perhaps there are more new characters to discover. However, what interested me was the fact that Aiden wore a ushanka. Does this mean that Aiden is Russian?

@BasicPaperTheory

25 күн бұрын

That sounds fantastic. :)

@MaceJones-nf2cs

24 күн бұрын

I always thought the ushanka was Ukrainian(big stupid here)

@SillyFandoms

24 күн бұрын

Guess.. (Insert Murder drones).. It's all coming together.. >=)

Your theories are so good! But imo I think MoeMoe is Claire’s pet it’s a high possibility considering MoeMoe is always near her and her friends and I’m pretty sure Claire would be aware by the fact a cat would be following her, and how MoeMoe is behind Claire in basics in behavior artwork reminds me of Alice’s bunny! but otherwise your theories are actually pretty good and make a lot of sense!

Yipee another great theory

@BasicPaperTheory

25 күн бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed! Thank you for watching. :)

@skyyeah3842

25 күн бұрын

@@BasicPaperTheoryI don’t get it, is Oliver a gurl or boy?? D:

@JAKDYT

25 күн бұрын

@@skyyeah3842boy

@JAKDYT

25 күн бұрын

@@skyyeah3842sorry man as he’s 20

@JAKDYT

25 күн бұрын

@@AuKo20 idk I heard he’s 20 but that’s still close

∆iden looks like a Gulag Serial Killer 💀 ∆иден похож на серийного убийцу из ГУЛАГа 💀

6:43 Agatha being dramatic

3:14 yo!! i had this same theory! the two lines make two A's, and also if you remove some lines and turn the thing over you get a K Also, woah.. a theory/lore explained channel that actually talks about more than paper school?? YOURE SO AWESOME!! THANK YOU!!

Hey that version on oliver with eye lashes of shape of girl is not him is katie ^^

@rhyolite_oncilla

24 күн бұрын

No… that is Oliver… Oliver is a girl, but transgender

@Snowythelilice

24 күн бұрын

@@rhyolite_oncilla no cuz oliver is katie's persona, that oliver version represents katie

@Theriansdontexist

24 күн бұрын

Oliver aint a tr;nny ​@@rhyolite_oncilla

@SillyFandoms

24 күн бұрын

​@@SnowytheliliceYeah, guess what?.. They're kinds the same person at this point!

@Snowythelilice

23 күн бұрын

@@SillyFandoms yeah ik??

Amazing theory! keep up the great work! Ill be watching your videos for more fpe theories :D

Your theories are great I love how you pay attention to these small details while I have no idea what’s going on at all😂

I love your videos am excited for the episode :D

@BasicPaperTheory

25 күн бұрын

I appreciate your support. Same I'm super excited. Hopefully the episode drops in 1-2 months.

0:03 is making me eager for ep1 bc this is so realistic bro

2:32 Goofy goober caught in 1080p60 HD.

CAN WE TALK ABT HOW CUTE ENGEL IS WHEN HE IS LEARNING OML HES ADORABLE ❤❤❤Edit 1: Wowie this is the most likes Ive gotten! 😮 BTW ITS AT 1:28 If u wanted to knowew

@BasicPaperTheory

24 күн бұрын

IKR :)

@Effect_channel

5 күн бұрын

That ain't Oliver that's katie

@RustedNoseWCUE

5 күн бұрын

@@Effect_channel Yes Ik.. But It's not confirmed Because,Its just kaatie as Oliver's Emotions so technically Its Both lol

I’m excited for the show, but since it’s in a different universe and everything’s gonna be different Im a little sad, like I’m gonna miss the other characters like Zip and Miss Circle

@Rob_Bud

23 күн бұрын

same here

@Noahandtailzandsonny

22 күн бұрын

You aint telling me that miss circle and the others are not to this show

@LocalRobloxAnimator

22 күн бұрын

Ain’t no way in hell miss circle not gonna be in the series Same for zip Ain’t no way in bloody hell

Dang. Claire got some trauma! Also very good detail! I would not know this if this channel didn't exist. Very helpful thanks!! 😅

Great

Nice! I like this stuff and more reveals for fpe! One thing tho.. not every tweet or oc lore about the characters are on fpe.. god job tho!

1:37 Ecsues me? That Katie 😂

Words cannot describe how much I am thankful for these series coming to life

@BasicPaperTheory

24 күн бұрын

Yeah it's truly amazing!

1:29 that's not Oliver, that's Katie's character. Oliver and Katie are two different people, she said it herself. You can tell by the eyelashes that Oliver lacks (any different photo) and Katie having them (in the current photo)

Ur the only person that I can trust to do sum paper theory. No one else bc I feel like they lie, only u say sumthin that make sense :D

Thx for this info👍

You are amazing at finding these! I’m ready to watch more

@BasicPaperTheory

24 күн бұрын

Thank you so much! I have more videos coming. :)

@Gorillazplace

23 күн бұрын

@@BasicPaperTheoryyahoo

Thank you for being the theorist on this we needed you💜💜💜

Yall i think katie loves aiden and oliver loves alice because i think its like 2 different personalities? It makes more sense tbh

Oliver is a menace to society 5:39

Oml, your theory's make me feel dumb on how I didn't notice these, this is our theory now >:3

I feel like Claire led to the forest due to her curiosity because of the warning signs it could’ve been a strict rule to not pass that place it could be that those warnings signs were put out by Claire after her doings to her so called ‘friends’, then Aidan and Alice could’ve Been very close friends or siblings that have very different facial features from their parents because they’re so different but is normal for siblings to not look alike or they could’ve been friends before hand and with ( all her current friends + Oliver ) by their side so Claire could’ve been jealous that Aiden and Alice had more friends so one day she decided to lead Aiden and Alice away from everyone and decided to tell them that a loved one or a pet or something was there like the black rabbit so Aiden and Alice were basically tricked and blame Claire for all of it so they could be The first target or so I think I believe she did this with fen and the black werewolf for the same or different reasons to gain popularity or friends but as she grew up she realized the consequences for her actions and how maybe the people she love could get hurt because of her actions so she set up the signs as a warning and chose to forget about it until Oliver realized all of this and swore to one day kill Claire and make her life a living the first step was to kill the people she loved which happened to Abbie and Lana and that’s all from me! (I’ll update when I get more theories or when I’m motivated too)

i believe the series will focus on claire squad being like an amature adventure's making them meet all the diffrent enemys and allys (this can be just my bias towards adventure series) btw i think that the nameless wolf is olso in the same forest as aiden after all both first hints for aiden and first sigthing of the nameless werewolf were happening in a snowy forest plus i believe claire wouldnt be a problem BUT SHE WOULD BLAME HERSELF i mean she is a child for all that we khow she doesnt khow anything about the whole situation and why its hapening so she migth be blaming herself plus let me cut straigth to the core FEN SHOULDNT BE EVIL if fen is evil then it would be pointless then fen would be just blond alice fen should be eigther an emotional support demon for claire ergo her only way of protecting herself or a wild card a character that wouldnt want to hurt claire but whenver hunger takes over everyone would be in danger and yes i want claire to have mother daugther relation ship with fen or xister I DONT WANT ANOTHER GEGE AKUTAMI I WANT CLAIRE TO BE HAPPY AND IF KAAATIE IS LIKE THAT STUPID ONE EYED CAT I WILL KILL SOMEBODY (gege akutami is creator of jujutsu kaisen aka the most traumatising manga of this generation I LITERALLY HAVE PTSD BEACUSE OF HIM) btw fun fact BAPHOMET IS A DEMON OF KHOLEGE relly look it up baphomet is a real demon

Aiden seems like a kind person

2:03 him: soap Edward and zip: cannibalism

4:21 they have the same mark on there eye

1:30 isn’t that Katie teaching Claire and Engel?

@rhyolite_oncilla

24 күн бұрын

thats Oliver, Oliver is a girl but trans. Ok nevermind I give up people don’t know this enough..

@Beanyerva

24 күн бұрын

@@rhyolite_oncilla oh, I thought it was Katie because of the eyelashes. Mb.

@KateWasHere111

24 күн бұрын

@@rhyolite_oncillaIt’s katie wym?

There is a secret behind the tree, Agetha At minute Try pausing it first then you will see something in the tree behind 7:11

6:43 this is why agetha is my favorite character of Katie’s (keep it paused when you tap/click on this) also for your theory? YES, is all im gonna say

2:59 BRO THATS THE NAME OF MY SQUAD😭💀 (the A.K.A I mean, but My A.K.A has the upper dash thing at the end-> ')

6:40 Δiden: happy :/ sad :/ angry :/ scared :/ (he got no emotions😭

@JustShimon

23 күн бұрын

female

@Snek1770

17 күн бұрын

Is a she

@AidenFPELol

14 күн бұрын

I'm a female.

@sepidehhajizadeh8833

9 сағат бұрын

​@@AidenFPELolaiden??? U dont have emotions

Aiden literally shows no mercy on murdering people

@Ivy_idk

25 күн бұрын

Aiden is so me

@handlenottaken

24 күн бұрын

@@Ivy_idkif you didn’t put that /jj u would’ve been a dead man

@Ivy_idk

23 күн бұрын

@@handlenottaken :3

@CalicoCat2884

16 күн бұрын

@@handlenottaken∆iden is so me

@handlenottaken

16 күн бұрын

@@CalicoCat2884 Cracking ip…/j

YASS more fpe theory’s!

@BasicPaperTheory

24 күн бұрын

Yep! :)

The one that Oliver was teaching Claire and engle is actually the creator Katieee

4:48 oh and there is another Connor sigh next to Abbie in the desk with an XD next to it too!

well can you explain why claire miss bloomie Alice and Aiden look so alike that they could be a family or maybe this isn't that true about them well miss bloomie in human form her hair is the same brown shade as Alice and claire also thx for the theory

Yay i might not be forever lost in time ^^ (also i need confirmation of enclaire being canon :D)

When you introduces Aiden I ALREADY LOVE HER❤❤❤

I want to see an epic battle again such as why Alice is the "villain" and why half of the paper school has the symbol. I mean seriously even the principal dude... How!?

3:38 what happend to his voice?

@KateWasHere111

24 күн бұрын

Idk I thought I was the only one that noticed

@barbarathomas8192

24 күн бұрын

He or her said it in the description

Bro I BEG OF YOU PLEASEEEE make a video explaining the lore I'm lost as balls on it but I'm SO INTERESTED I BEGGGGG also cool video man you're channel is baller Edit: I mean the overarching sotry with all the characters, cause I keep hearing about someone neamed FEN and have no clue who that is!!!

I thought this was just a one off animation i didn’t know Katie was gonna plot a whole series on it xd

That's a really interesting theory, keep it up ♥️

@user-ho6uy2zk5y

25 күн бұрын

Basic Paper theory: We might not see engel in- Me: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Basic paper theory: Fpe Me: Oh...Oki

@Gamerpal145

25 күн бұрын

@@user-ho6uy2zk5y lol

@BasicPaperTheory

24 күн бұрын

Thank you so much. :)

@Gamerpal145

24 күн бұрын

@@BasicPaperTheory np

I thought fen is Claire’s mother- Tbh then she would be a horrible mother trying to kill her own child-

@winbigboss8599

21 күн бұрын

Fen was the one who protected Claire.

6:41 aiden got that bendy and the ink machine aaah fuckin emotions

@MONKEY123-n4w

20 күн бұрын

Fr

The both lines in triangle means “do not be afraid” usually from heaven that eye with no body and big wing wings is one of weirdcore and dreamcore

Mhmm i have some theory with olivers the female one - WARNING LONG EXPLANATIONS - (Could be wrong, make sure to double check it) 1. Kaatie the creator is having 2 differents universe, this other ocs and fpe Characters and for now we calling the other ocs universe is other worlds okay? 2. First of all of we take a look at childhood memories by kaatie post showing Oliver but female and alice, it's not Oliver is it kaatie both are differents characters. Andd for Oliver is a male confirmed by kaatie post "the handsome person in highschool" showing a male Oliver in human styles underlined the handsome words he clearly a boy. "Oliver humans styles-?" Yup still a part of the paper universe if i'm not wrong but probably not in the other worlds universe since if in other worlds universe the Oliver Aka "Kaatie" is a girls. 3. Now we focused at other worlds universe where Oliver Akaa kaatie (we Will start calling it kaatie okay) is a girls. In this universe kaatie and alice is more likely a close friends not a lovers if i'm not wrong refrenced to the memories post by kaatie andd some post like "i love Alice" and kaatie the creator said if Alice ship with other characters she Will be hearts brokens is only refrenced to Oliver in papers universe. And all of the ship Art about it is only refrenced to olivers and alice in *papers universe*. 4. Both of them are differents characters because kaatie is a good person than Oliver refrenced to kaatie helping engel and Claire in other worlds universe post, while olivers is a bully. *Remmember boths is live in differents universe also a differents characters* Note: all this proof takens in Twitter where kaatie the real creator accounts. She only have a Twitter and KZread account and nothing else. - Wikii fandom is not truly correct since as kaatie said herself in Twitter most of the information don't get confirmed by hers. That's all if you have a questions reply this and i'll try getting the answer Thank you for reading! Have a nice dayy!

@kavylavx

25 күн бұрын

dangg

This makes so much sense

@BasicPaperTheory

24 күн бұрын

:)

I looked at the title and was like IS THAT AUGUSTINE FROM COLD FRONT

You should make an intro thats similar to film theory but the song is a remix of basics in behaviour and is a FPE

My theory for Moemoe: he's just Claire's cat🙂

2:06 my pfp lol

@DYXAnims69

25 күн бұрын

Same lol

@BasicPaperTheory

25 күн бұрын

Awesome! LOL

bruh u know it's gonna be good when the new character is A RUV LOOKALIKE.

“We might not see Engel in the paper school” *one could imagine me happy*

When I saw 2:54, I thinking of the filioque- ;-;

0:40 DUDE THATS ACTUALLY SMART💀

Once the first episode drops i will be there....

*_Hey. is that 🔼iden.?_* *-(look closer outside the window.)-* 0:51 *-also new sub..-*

@Failur3YT

24 күн бұрын

Her name is Aiden not Adien-

@AngsillFlower

24 күн бұрын

@@Failur3YT *_thanks! im stupid hell._*

@Failur3YT

24 күн бұрын

@@AngsillFlower you're welcome!

@SillyFandoms

24 күн бұрын

YEAH, I think if you look in the dark outside of the windows, 0:53 you can see souless eyes(which are ofc Aidens)

@AngsillFlower

23 күн бұрын

​​@@SillyFandoms*_you can even see her hat._*

My favorite theory : fen might be Claire's mother

@AppuYoutubeGuy

25 күн бұрын

I was also thinking that

@EngelTheRandomSilly

25 күн бұрын

Off topic: People ship Xister and Fen But I find them as sisters in my AU. SoO i dOnT sHiP eM ✨

@AppuYoutubeGuy

25 күн бұрын

@@EngelTheRandomSilly Nah I’ll ship

@Mary_chocolatelover

25 күн бұрын

​@@EngelTheRandomSillylts cannon

The blonde-haired monster isn't actually an fpe character, it's another one of Katie's ocs! 😅

Oh my God I didn’t know as a baby two people was learning from Olivier

4:11 Where can I find this picture? I can't find it, not on Twitter, not in other programs...

I dont know why but you didnt say the fact Oliver had eye lashes and melons, in the beginning he was shown as male, and suddenly he became female, i was pretty sure that the one who loved Aiden , and the one who was with Connor ,was named Katie, maybe Oliver and Katie are siblings or something

@cinnamorolldeadx

25 күн бұрын

Oliver is kaaaties persona

@Yukino_Megumi

25 күн бұрын

@@cinnamorolldeadx ik?

@deneshwdolie4691

24 күн бұрын

​@@Yukino_MegumiI think they mean that it wasnt oliver but katie(as in the creator)

@Yukino_Megumi

24 күн бұрын

@@deneshwdolie4691 i know that too

Well FPE and Katie's posts might not be related because one of katie's posts say "i like drawing scenes with my characters so some animations might be slow" not exact words said in post but this is what i remember :3

yay new video

∆iden be like: 😐

0:02 Raisel

Everyone else having normal emotions: 👍 6:40 Aidens emotions.. Happy: 😐 Sad: 😐 Angry: 😐 Scared: 😐

Hard to process. Crazy coming from me. I can’t tell if this is horror-based because of the images, or if this is JUST animation

But then we find out katie is so damn obsesse-

@monitorlite1200

25 күн бұрын

i read obese 😭

@Local_vivian

25 күн бұрын

@@monitorlite1200 NOT OBESE-

@RobbyCopter_s2klover261

24 күн бұрын

kaseoh

@Local_vivian

24 күн бұрын

@@RobbyCopter_s2klover261 NAHH I SAID OBSESSED-

@RobbyCopter_s2klover261

24 күн бұрын

@@Local_vivian too late buddy!

Hi

@BasicPaperTheory

25 күн бұрын

Hey Thanks for watching. :)

I have no clue what you’re talking about during any of this but I still am watching 😀

For the engel and claire artwork learning from oliver, thats actually katie!! :P

Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill the inter dimensional god

0:21 not tryna be rude but why she look like that

@Eu_gosto_de_Desenhar

24 күн бұрын

It's a he

@KateWasHere111

24 күн бұрын

@@Eu_gosto_de_DesenharFen is a girl

@Rares-x1c

8 күн бұрын

Fen is already terrifying enough😭

6:31 THERE ARE NO SERIES OF FUNDAMENTAL PAPER EDUCATION.

@WillstillplayzofficialYT

14 күн бұрын

Katie confirmed there will be.

my dumbass was audio listening to this while doing stuff and when you said fen I thuoght you mean't fentanyl and I started laughing to myself about breaking bad memes

We found out fpe lore before gta 6 that’s wild

BRUH ISTG IF OLIVER BECOMES A HERO, HES NO LONGER MY FAVOURITE CHARACTER 😭😭

@Mymelodyyay2

22 күн бұрын

SAME

@TheRealDakasch

21 күн бұрын

Oliver will continue being my favourite no matter what he becomes lol