"since u claim you're so much wiser" odysseus she's the goddess of wisdom 😭😭

@-howlingheart-2045

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t Athena the goddess of war?

@olalahonka

Жыл бұрын

@@-howlingheart-2045 in greek mythology you'll have more than one god or goddess for the same thing, it's more on the nuances. but to answer you the god of war is Ares, Athena is the goddess of wisdom and battle strategy

@anthnforourmoony

Жыл бұрын

@@-howlingheart-2045 hahah no, ares is *the* god of war. but athena is *a* goddess of war

@savathunthewitchqueen3858

Жыл бұрын

@@-howlingheart-2045 she is a Goddess of War, Strategy and Wisdom.

@onsetkhaki14

Жыл бұрын

Athena is the goddess of Wisdom and Battle Strategy, which is different from war. Yes she's considered a war goddess but it's not her main goddess deed. In fact, Aphrodite is also a war goddess in Roman mythology

The amount of emotions she put in "You're not looking for a mentor, I'm not looking for a friend" give me the ultimate goosebumps

@BobbinGoblin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@crystalkatsuka

Жыл бұрын

The most was in "I mistook you for a general"

@novemberjesse

Жыл бұрын

Bru waiting for attention

@Iluvmushrooms19

Жыл бұрын

It makes the hair on my arms stick up lmao i freaking love that part, actually i love all of these songs

@cooper1531

9 ай бұрын

And when they say "just a man". I literally started shaking

He really just called Athena out for being lonely😂

@macxinealexisroque1480

Жыл бұрын

Something personal for her😆

@ChaosQueen1575

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂lol

@haozhao8029

Жыл бұрын

@@ChaosQueen1575 yeah

@haozhao8029

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 mixed with 😶😶😶

@ranisharma9690

Жыл бұрын

Don't make fun Athena , all the gods are one , we should respect every God . First of all I am actually not a romanian but I still respect every God

You can hear the pain in Athena’s voice when she says “I mistook you for a general” 😢😢 Edit: you can actually hear the pain in her voice the entire bridge or whatever it’s called!!

@haozhao8029

Жыл бұрын

I know!!

@flyingisfunhehe

Жыл бұрын

And where she said " I DON'T know where I went wrong

@TowardsTheMoon880

6 ай бұрын

@@flyingisfunheheFor once Athena had made a bad decision ( APPARENTLY to her saying)

@xsxeno

5 ай бұрын

At the end of the day, both were in the wrong.

2:09 Who else immediately thought about Pallas? Edit: Pallas was the daughter of Triton who was raised together with Athena. Athena killed her in a spar after Pallas was distracted by her father, having thrust her spear forward, expecting her to dodge, it instead went straight through Pallas's heart. In her remorse, Athena built a statue in Pallas's likeness and named it Palladium.

@softmelodyy

Жыл бұрын

Is that the one where Zeus distracts the girl Athena was sparring against with aegis (not sure if it was aegis or something else related to Medusa) without Athena knowing?

@Thetis_009

Жыл бұрын

@@softmelodyy It is, and it was an aegis

@jaythewriter7625

Жыл бұрын

And she also took Pallas' name. Pallas Athena

@SRPSKIGANG

Жыл бұрын

Where did you find that? In the movie or on the google or somewhere else? And if you find it in movie or series what is called

@Thetis_009

Жыл бұрын

@SRPSKI GANG I couldn't tell you. I went through a Greek mythology phase a few years ago, and Athena was one of my favorites, so it stuck. If you google "Pallas Athena myth," though you'll probably find it.

She is so pained and I feel the wrenching, raw emotion. And Odysseus has clearly been fed up for so long, he pours bottled agitation into his words. They’re so incredible at stressing every little detail to the finest point- it feel so real! It just grips your heart and pulls you through the story, passing you back and fourth between the different versions of grief and pain. I’M SO OBSESSED Y’ALL 😭

I think Odysseus has a point though. He pointed out that anytime someone dies, Athena kinda acts like " oh, it's just another day and another soul lost." While he has to deal with losing his friends in battles. He has to deal with the fact that he couldn't do anything to save them. Athena also kinda got mad at him for having emotions like that's what makes him human, ma'am. But in a way , I can see Athena's side too but I can't really relate to hers except for liking being alone to an extent.

@Levsa399

Жыл бұрын

Athena’s a goddess, so for her, it is just another day. Athena gets mad at him because he doesn’t listen and loses friends as a result. She’s frustrated, because had he thought logically and listened to her, he wouldn’t have lost friends and wouldn’t have to deal with this grief. That’s why she mocks his emotions, because he listen to them and did something stupid.

@licas3214

Жыл бұрын

I mean what you expect she is a goddess and he is just a man. Anyway he is indeed foolish, after all of his friends dead because of his foolishness. In the end she is indeed wise.

@bakugoukatsukitheonlyrealo383

10 ай бұрын

​@@Levsa399yes he lost his friends from listen to his motions but he was losing friends listening to her too it seems like😅 cuz why would he get upset if he wasn't losing his comrades

I don't know if anyone's ever pointed it out but in Warrior of the Mind when Athena sings "he is a Warrior of the Mind", MIND is just one note, then when she duets with Odysseus, he introduces a more melodic way of saying it, which she adopts when "We are the Warriors of the Mind" is repeated. Here, at the end she sings "This is my goodbye" in the same melodic way, but when she repeats the line at the very end, it reverts back to the one note, which to me translates as her getting Odysseus out of her system

@Meli-Meliai

Жыл бұрын

Whoa, that’s actually REALLY insightful. That’s a really cool observation!

@andreeastancu1505

11 ай бұрын

Omg, I thought I was just crazy, making up things that don't exist because I hadn't seen anyone else say it. I love all the little details in these songs and I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing them!

@jessicahwang2825

9 ай бұрын

Woah, I did notice it but I kinda thought it was an accident. Now that you explain it to detail, I don't think so anymore. ❤❤❤

@CLOUDFOX1

5 ай бұрын

i kind of translate it as her pouring the emotions he taught her back at him, kind of letting him go and wanting him to take his emotions with him, as she has no use for him or them anymore

@roselover411

4 ай бұрын

I definitely noticed! He left a mark on her no matter what she says

The saddest break up in history. I’m glad they eventually work things out.

@mtfan3457

Жыл бұрын

Break up... They aren't dating... are they?

@cupcakepanda4943

Жыл бұрын

@@mtfan3457 You could say it's platonic brake up

@anthnforourmoony

Жыл бұрын

real

@tiringsarcasm

Жыл бұрын

@@mtfan3457 You ever had a painful argument with a best friend? The kind where you both say things you can’t take back? That kind of ‘break up’

@mtfan3457

Жыл бұрын

@@tiringsarcasm yeah okay thanks

"Athena once slayed again 🐢" Got me laughing to the top of my lungs 😂

@user-bc1kl3xf9e

5 ай бұрын

i just noticed that when u pointed it out

this is the ultimate break up song complete with reads and disses. Athena basically calling Odysseus a foolish, emotional waste of time and him calling her a selfish, lonely ole bitch. they are really coming for each other’s necks and i’m here for it. ancient greek slander. slay ✨💅🏽😂

@ShyDigi

7 ай бұрын

The sad part is that you can feel the hurt in athenas voice in the "one day" segment after her calls her all alone. Reminds me of an anguished parent or something idk

Athena 10 years later on Ithaca : So um. About that whole goodbye thingy

@ChaosQueen1575

Жыл бұрын

😂

@ses7740

Жыл бұрын

whyyy I need context😭 😭

@juliamiller5120

Жыл бұрын

@@ses7740 in the original story, Odysseus learns his lesson and find his way home. He and Athena reconcile.

@dragonking1097

Жыл бұрын

@@juliamiller5120 I look forward to the song that shows that happen.

@nara9404

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

If anyone wants angst. This is the song for it. I’ll be waiting to hear what song they make for their reconciliation, since this song really strikes the heart.

Feels like she's waiting for Odysseus to take back what he said/did when she's repeating "this is my goodbye"

@licas3214

Жыл бұрын

Maybe, but I don't understand what part she wants Odysseus to take back, after all she is the one who decided to end things

@StoneBasilisk

Жыл бұрын

@@licas3214 She doesn't want to end it. The reason she's ending it is because Odysseus is refusing to stick to the mold she's created for him, even when she herself is now confronting him. That's the read I'm getting, anyways.

@licas3214

Жыл бұрын

@@StoneBasilisk ahh... so that's how it is, so do you think if he's apologize and start to following the mold Athena create, would she (Athena) continue their relationship or will she still end it?

@StoneBasilisk

Жыл бұрын

@@licas3214 Continue it, fs. The reason she's mad is because, in refusing to kill Polyphemus, Odysseus is essentially saying, "I no longer like your methods. I don't want to follow them." If Odysseus had admitted fault (going back to kill Polyphemus) then he would've been following Athena's orders: he would've been the perfect warrior Athena has been creating. But instead, he refused.

@licas3214

11 ай бұрын

@@StoneBasilisk ooh okay, thanks for telling me your interpretation

The distance between the lines who have the same rhythm ''If you are lookng for a mentor, I'll make sure your time is well spent'' and ''You are not looking for a mentor, Im not looking for a friend'' Is just so painful, you can see the ghosts of the past there and athena goes from a catchy song to the sad truth Also when he says to athena ''you are alone'' followed by a pause is just- And if i hear any of them hear a sentancy ''this way-'' im gonna explode i swear to the Gods By the way the 1rst line is from the Warrior Of The Mind by the same musical but you probaby know

@lacrossestick132

Жыл бұрын

Also “I mistook you for a general/what a waste of effort spent” and the first line in your comment go together.

I love- ABSOLUTELY LOVE- when previous songs in an album are used to drive in a point and bring a further emphasis, or alter the meaning of certain lyrics. Please, when "Just a man" (2:26) played for that one line I absolutely fell in love because that prior hesitation in that song is being used against him to show just how unprepared she believes him to be. AHHHHHHHHHHH

@becky5364

Жыл бұрын

I lose my mind at that line. Like musically it’s one of my favorite tricks but the meaning of the line “just a man” has changed so much. When he sings it, he’s lamenting his limited power, struggling with defining his own morality, asking for forgiveness for not being more than he is. When she sings it, he has found his morality. He has the conviction he wanted, and asks no forgiveness. She says it to him not only to remind him of his previous weakness, but to remind him of his place. You’re just a human, you who would sink to personal insults in argument with a goddess. I also think she’s reminding herself. He’s just a human, just a man, and she never should’ve expected anything more of him. It’s literally genius.

@becky5364

Жыл бұрын

@Just Andru It’s so personal by that point. I personally think he starts the low blows but like a true goddess of war she is not to be outdone.

@Levsa399

Жыл бұрын

@@becky5364 I also like the other meaning that has to do with their differences in gender as well as entire being. I kind of hope she’d sing the line, but her letting the ensemble do it further adds insult to injury because it’s almost like she’s so done with him, he isn’t even worth finishing the sentence.

@SamuraiSeiyuu

6 ай бұрын

​@@becky5364 this can also be a build up to a "daam I was too harsh with him." Like "he has no use If he's emotinaly broken" and also a "I Hope he forgive me Someday "

The fact the actress for athena was singing this while sitting down

@anisshi8755

Жыл бұрын

Hey can you say where i can find the actual musical video?

@signna

Жыл бұрын

@@anisshi8755 there isn't a video yet but there's two albums out The Troy Saga & The Cyclops Saga

@georgie3675

Жыл бұрын

Is it hard to sing sitting down???

@lalas181

6 ай бұрын

​@@georgie3675 Not necessarily _as_ hard as some claim (see literally any musical theater performer who uses a wheelchair) but it is generally harder than singing while standing up due to how your core muscles affect your breathing. This is also why singing well while laying down is impressive. It's really interesting, and I'm sure I'm not explaining it right so I encourage you to look it up for yourself to get better details.

Ayo anyone else notice the “Athena slayed once again” message at 3:05 lol🤣

I have the urge to randomly sing both parts right now. Good thing I’m in my room because I can’t sing in front of other without fainting.

@DiamondSparklz61

Жыл бұрын

You're not the only one. Plus this fits one of my ocs so much as well 😅

@SkyTheSnake

Жыл бұрын

I sang the entire musical to the ghost in my house bc no one else is home. I'm certain I didn't hit any note right, but they're all such good songs, who can blame you for wanting to sing them lol

Odysseus is a human… he can’t turn off his emotions, but he wasn’t using his intelligence, and Athena suggested he basically be heartless. But he can’t. Athena puts a lot of emphasis on the intelligence, and is right that he let his men die by using his heart, but she acts like he shouldn’t have them at all due to his intellect. I see both of their arguments

Honestly all these greek god songs coming out just makes my heart so happy. Came here from listening to Pomegranate lips

Remember Athena does come back to help Odysseus in the end but i do think this was a deep cut dealt by each of them to one another. Athena teaches Tact and Wisdom, whereas Odysseus cared about the people he lost (although its kind of his crews fault, except the cyclops, thats all of Odysseus 😅)

This is an absolute masterpiece of a song

“While you are fighting to be known” wow almost like Athena DIDNT give you all your fame or that she TOTALLYYYY ISNT the goddess of wisdom and battle strategy

Athena is alone by choice. she took a vow of maidenhood in the early days of her goddesshood. As for her being alone apart from not having romantic interests, it's clear she holds logic and wisdom above all else as she's literally the goddess of Wisdom. There's no room for heart and sentiment when it comes to strategy, wisdom and logic. That's why she reprimanded Odyssesus for being sentimental but still it's clear she's hurt by he said and I'm sure she felt some sort of attachment towards him

@Levsa399

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, looks like Odysseus forgot Athena is one of three goddesses Aphrodite has no power over. She still has love and sentiment, but they’re right along her logic and wisdom. She doesn’t make stupid decisions in the heat of emotion. Really Odysseus should’ve thought this through.

@Amatureb

Жыл бұрын

@@Levsa399 Who are the other two? Sorry if it’s a stupid question

@Levsa399

Жыл бұрын

@@Amatureb not at all! The other two are Hestia and Artemis.

@Amatureb

Жыл бұрын

@@Levsa399 Ohh I guess that makes sense as they are all the virgin goddesses

@vishalaochar9266

2 ай бұрын

Didn't athena turn medusa a monster even tho she was r*ped because she was jealous 🤔 where's her wisdom

How could he just speak to my godess like that!!!!! Best part of song (my opinion) 1:41

@DiamondSparklz61

Жыл бұрын

Both sides are just broken and they snap.. Hurts so much

in warrior of the mind athena says “if you’re looking for a menton ill make sure your times well spent” and here she says “im not looking for for a mentor your not looking for a friend… what a waste of effort spent” chills

Who else noticed the “Athena slayed once again”?

Such a good good day it is today i discovered Greek music

The power in their voices ♥

I’m gonna use this as a way of practicing my acting

Chills. Literal chills. BRAVO!! 👏🏼

@onsetkhaki14

Жыл бұрын

Number 5. Number 5 killed my brother -Brooklyn 99

My literal favorite song out of them all mannn

Warrior in the mind and my goodbye is so good together Omg what

I’ve been waiting for a lyric video!!

I like how near the end in the bottom right corner ever so tiny says “Athena slayed yet again 🐢”

JAY U LYRICAL GENIUS 👹👹👹🥴🥵🥵👹

@juicylobster

Жыл бұрын

"wiser why's your" just scratches my brain 😩

@ChaosQueen1575

Жыл бұрын

❤

So much emotion in this song

luv the reference to warrior of the mind frfr 😻

Hiii, just wanted to drop an Italian translation of the lyrics for those who want to understand it better! Sei incosciente A dir poco sdolcinato Questo non te l'ho insegnato io Sei cresciuto dolce I tuoi amici morti possono testimoniarlo Hey! Metti via le tue emozioni Sei un guerriero Dovresti guidare gli altri Non capisco dove ho sbagliato Ma ti avevo avvertito E hai fallito la prova Quindi ora vado Così saprai qual è il tuo posto Così non puoi superare il limite Così quando sarà tutto finito Ti terrai il tuo e io il mio Così non mi deluderai Così non sprecherai il mio tempo Così chiuderò la porta Considera questo come il mio addio È tipico tuo Perché dovrei essere sorpreso? Egoista e orgogliosa e vanitosa A differenza tua Ogni volta che qualcuno muore Devo affrontare io la pressione Qual è un titolo Che una dea può passare Se non dormo la notte? Ti ricordo Che ti vedevo come un'amica Ma ora abbiamo chiuso Così sei fuori dalla mia testa Così non modellerai la mia vita Così quando sarà tutto finito Sarai lontano dalla mia vista e dalla mia mente Così avrai quello che volevi Così puoi risparmiare il tuo tempo Così chiudi la porta E abbi il tuo dannato addio Non stai cercando un mentore E io non sto cercando un amico Ti avevo scambiato per un generale Che spreco di fatica At least I know what I'm fighting for Almeno io so per cosa sto combattendo Mentre tu combatti per essere conosciuta! Visto che ti vanti di essere così tanto saggia Perché la tua vita è così solitaria? Sei sola Un giorno sentirai quello che dico Un giorno potresti capire Un giorno, ma non oggi Dopo tutto sei Solo un uomo Oggi ti sei tagliato la testa da solo Oggi hai tagliato la linea Oggi hai perso tutto Considera questo il mio addio Considera questo il mio addio (oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh) Questo è il mio addio (oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh) Considera questo il mio addio (oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh) Questo è il mio addio!

I did not just listen to this song 24 times

@user-bc1kl3xf9e

5 ай бұрын

same karma *same*

this is one of my favourite songs from the album

This song is so sad but awesome😭😭😭

It's such a good song but can hear the pain in both voices tho Athena slayed tho

You could here the pain in Athena's voice when she said "Your not looking for a mentor" up to "What a waste of effort spent"

In my head Percy Jackson and Annabeth Chase had an argument while I was listening to this song. It is a great song!

I'm listening to this after an incident that cost my sisterhood...

SO GOOD LOVE IT

The first time i heard this i didnt seem to like it but at 2:21 that part where the background music says "Just a Man" literally reminded me of the music and that part made me love this music so badly!!!❤❤

Yes she did, little turtle

you dont know how many searches it took to find this song

😢I love this song

I'm not crying you are😢

oh the drama. delicious

1:45 the tune is sumilar to Warrior of the mind

What my favorite part of this probly is, is when before odysseus speaks back you hear a littel bit of guitar in the background but still that controlled melody more prominent woth athena but then when odysseus says what he wants to back with "this way you get what you wanted" the control is more in the back with the guitar now stringer instead to show his rebellion against her now

WOW WOW WOW!!!

@ChaosQueen1575

Жыл бұрын

I know!!

I'm listening to this rn bc my brother watching annoying videos and this my fav song

......................................................................... HOLY. O H M Y G OD HOLY. CHILLS. WOW. THE VOCALS. I ca N T -- a first time watcher

Am I the only one who sees this from a overbearing parent to child relationship

Lyrics: You were reckless, sentimental at best. That’s not a teaching of mine. You’ve grown soft, your dead friends can attest. Hey! Put your emotions aside. You’re a warrior meant to lead the rest. I don’t know where I went wrong. But I warned you, and you fail the test. So now I’m gone. This way, you’ll know what you’re place is. This way, you can’t cross the line. This way, when all is over you’ll keep yours and I’ll keep mine. This way, you won’t disappoint me. This way, you won’t wast my time. This way, I’ll close the door. Consider this as my goodbye. That’s just like you, why should I be surprised? Selfish, and prideful, and vain. Unlike you, every time someone dies, I’m left to deal with the strain. What’s a title that a goddess could lend, if I’ll never sleep at night? I’ll remind you I saw you as a friend but now we’re done. This way, you’re out of my head now. This way, you won’t plague my life. This way, when all is done you’re out of sight and out of mind. This way, you get what you wanted. This way, you can save your time. This way, you close the door and have your damn goodbye. You’re not looking for a mentor, I’m not looking for a friend. I mistook you for a general. What a wast of effort spent. At least I know what I’m fighting for while you’re fighting to be known. Since you claim you’re so much wiser why’s your life spent all alone? You’re alone. One day, you’ll hear what I’m saying. One day, you might understand. One day, but not today, for after all you’re (just a man.) This day, you sever your own head. This day, you cut the line. This day, you lost it all. Consider this as my goodbye. (Ooooooooooooh) Consider this as my goodbye. (Ooooooooooooh) This is my goodbye. (Ooooooooooooh) Consider this as my goodbye (Ooooooooooooh) This is my goodbye.

@Itzzzishhh_

Жыл бұрын

It's a lyrical video 💀🤌🏻

@molly_parker_1847

Жыл бұрын

@@Itzzzishhh_ I know but I’m extremely picky when I watch lyric videos so I just made it easier for me.

@nal_ceramics

Жыл бұрын

@@Itzzzishhh_ lol

Okay, but like, this is definitely "Mapleshade and Crookedstar MAP" material and I just need that in my life.

@CatMagnet_lovescats

2 ай бұрын

Another my fellow warrior cats fan?? Wow

anyone notice the emoji popping up in the bottom left corner at 1:52 and 2:26? XD XD Just me? ok..

@juicylobster

Жыл бұрын

WOOHOO you're the first person to point them out 🏆🏆

@ambarishkarve

Жыл бұрын

@@juicylobster yay!!!

♥️

Yea she is the goddess of wisdom

In the corner at the end it says AThena slayed once again! OMG AGREE! GOOOOOO ATHENA!

1:51 the heck was that in the bottom corner?

@anthnforourmoony

Жыл бұрын

the creator put that there, prob saying that it's their fave line in this song

Who came here after seing Crazy cae's video like

Have this serial or movie

1:45

What app can I find this film on?

@juicylobster

Жыл бұрын

there is no film but it's available to listen to on all major streaming platforms including spotify ^^

is it just me or does athena sound angry in this song?

@halfknight2310

Жыл бұрын

she is. cause odysseus let his bonds and sentimentality to "get in the way" of his mission.

Make this a movie please

@LizzyRanda-cw8hu

9 ай бұрын

I think it’s from a movie but I’m not sure

@kittycatzuka

9 ай бұрын

@@LizzyRanda-cw8hu It's from an upcoming musical based on The Odyssey. Not all of the songs have been finished/released yet though, so we don't know if/when they'll actually perform the musical. Could take another year or so, depending on how many songs there'll be.

I don't know why but I can imagine Kratos singing to Is that weird?

If they did a mix of a few of the songs that they did in the past into this song like they did with just a man i think it would be better

Is this soundtrack for game? Movie? Can somebody tell me what this song about?

@emil-9859

Жыл бұрын

Musical

@savathunthewitchqueen3858

Жыл бұрын

It's based on Homer's Odyssey, a popular Ancient Greek Epic.

He kind of going cRaZy

This as absolutely an L for Athena. That last bit was sang towards a walking away captain

@zashgekido5616

Жыл бұрын

I dunno man, our boy started this one on the backfoot ever since "Your dead friends can attest"

@venator-yv1gw

Жыл бұрын

@@zashgekido5616 the music became somber after his last shot tho. That don’t happen unless a heavy strike is dealt

@zashgekido5616

Жыл бұрын

@@venator-yv1gw "You got your friends killed" seems like a pretty heavy blow though XD

@mattisonkillian9651

Жыл бұрын

@Zash Gekido Personally, I think it's more tragic if Athena does lose. Yes, she's angry, but anyone can clearly hear how hurt she is. Athena wanted him to succeed and be a great "warrior of the mind." She even says you won't understand it yet, but we are done. I think we both can agree that this was a beautifully written song. Thanks for reading.

@tiringsarcasm

Жыл бұрын

Really? I saw the last part as her walking away, considering she’s the one removing her divine protection and Odysseus would spend another 10 years at sea.

Is that a song from a movie? if it's what's Is the movie name plz

@juicylobster

Жыл бұрын

nope this is a song from epic the musical. a new saga/batch of songs comes out about every month (as far as i know) so keep an eye out for when the next one releases

Ngl im on oddyssesus side

dont write damn in the song write dam instend

@aliciamichaud1325

Жыл бұрын

Let the grownups do the songwriting.

@melvincramer361

Жыл бұрын

It gives Percy Jackson! If you get it, you get it!!!

@Vincentius_Cardinal

Жыл бұрын

@benjaminale8063 It's not about censoring swearing, it's an inside joke in the Percy Jackson fandom.

@Vincentius_Cardinal

Жыл бұрын

@@aliciamichaud1325 I refer you to my reply to the other guy who thought this was about censoring for children.

@Amatureb

Жыл бұрын

Haha this is where you see 50% of people cracking up, and 50% of people thinking you are either mad, don’t know whats going on, or think your trying to censor something. While we’re on the topic, who wants a dam enchilada?

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