Max's explanation is simple and clear. Mayweather has accomplished something he's supposed to accomplish given his talent. A true champion. Pacquiao has accomplished something we will never see again. A true legend.

@supremo6415

6 жыл бұрын

FLOMOS and PACHATERS would never understand this!

@TheRexrapper

5 жыл бұрын

Are we going to see a 5 weight undefeated 11 time world champion in Floyd again?

@asswuppin

5 жыл бұрын

So you're arguing that greatness is predicated upon expectations? That's ridiculous.

@isaacsoto8119

5 жыл бұрын

J Smith I understand that point of view. But just think, what’s more impressive, a 200lb man benching 300lbs 50/50 times and never failing, or a 120 lb man benching 300lbs 61/70 times. There’s arguments for both sides 🤷🏽‍♂️

@asswuppin

5 жыл бұрын

​@@isaacsoto8119 _This is a long one. So I hope that you're capable of reading through it if you want 100% honesty and accuracy._ Here's the thing: Your analysis is based on misinformation. Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are relatively the same size. Floyd is 2 years older and went to the Olympics. Manny Pacquiao did not go to the Olympics and turned pro at a younger age than Floyd did. What does that all mean? It means that Pacquiao appeared smaller because he turned pro at a younger age while his body had not grown to its current size. Floyd is *NOT* a true 147lbs fighter(despite him having the skill to reign as a 154lb lineal champion). Floyd is at best a 130-135lbs fighter who simply had the skills to do what he did. Manny is no different. Manny had the speed and stamina to do what he did. The difference is that Pacquiao *NEEDED* the catchweights and weight rehydration clauses to accomplish what Floyd did *WITHOUT* them. Manny Pacquiao's career has been carefully packaged and sold as some little guy who came up and beat the bigger guys. That's only partially true. Manny definitely came up and won. Just not against guys that were bigger and healthy. What's not reflected is that at the same age, Mayweather was the same size as Pacquiao. As they grew, they were in different places in their careers. Floyd had grown during his amateur career and so when he debuted in his pro career, he was larger than Pacquiao and therefore he did not compete i as many divisions as Pacquiao. But that's simply semantics .. especially when one considers that Pacquiao had been KO'd twice during those years. The entire basis for Kellerman attempting to compare two very different fighters is the *number of divisions that Pacquiao has competed in.* That's literally the ONLY aspect that Kellerman could hope to cite when making his ridiculous argument that quantity trumps quality. The number of divisions that one competes in is hardly the metric by which greatness would be measured .. especially in light of the fact that *Pacquiao wasn't dominant in many of them.* Pacquiao simply won fights against *SPECIFIC BRAND NAME FIGHTERS* to lay claim to being a force in those divisions. *I'm talking about 130, 135, 140, 147, 154lb divisions.* In those divisions, Manny Pacquiao fought specific men and gave great fights, but certainly Pacquiao wasn't fighting the best in those divisions. For instance, Barrera only found fame for beating the overhyped Brit of that day in Naseem Hamed. Before then, Barrera was semi-retired after getting his ass kicked back to back by Junior Jones. Morales had lost twice to Barrera at the point when Pacquiao chose him as an opponent .. but Morales beat Pacquiao as an underdog. Out of nowhere, Morales gets *DOMINATED* by Zahir Raheem .. but Pacquiao refuses to fight Raheem and instead chooses to fight Morales in a division where Morales had little to no experience. Morales never rematched Raheem and no no desire to. *That's the **_REAL_** story of Pacquiao's legacy.* Manny _CHOSE_ to fight the lesser challenges when convenient for himself and even then sometimes he got his ass kicked for his troubles. There's nothing " _great_ " about losing. But a whole generation of kids who grew up watching " _ROCKY_ " movies believes that losing is just as good as winning when the perception of someone that they support is on the line. That was the entire appeal of Arturo Gatti. And it's bullshit. When the "Great Hope" of a group can't seem to get the win that they need to reach the top, then that group changes the criteria of what it means to be " _great_ " .. and that's pathetic. Losing doesn't destroy one's career or legacy .. but it sure doesn't help it either and *MUST* be weighed and factored in when determining just how great a career they had. If Ali hadn't made all the moves that he did concerning social justice, Ali would not be revered today as one of the the best boxers to have ever lived. Why? Ali lost to men that he should never had. There's no denying that Ali was an amazing talent, but talent alone does not accomplish milestones. Consistency and actual winning against the best does. Challenging one's self as one goes up in weight against THEE BEST and WINNING(without tricks like weight manipulation clauses or targeting opponents coming off huge career losses) determines that. The difference between men like Muhammad Ali and Roy Jones Jr. is that Roy Jones was thee most dominant force in the sport before he got old overnight. People can actually look back at Roy Jones' record and determine at what point in his career he diminished as a fighter. It was when he came down from HW and lost 26lbs of muscle in 6 weeks to make a fight with Tarver. It affected Jones for life and he was *NEVER* the same. Ali had lost to men in his prime that should never had a chance against an elite fighter. Sure .. there were circumstances in Ali's life as well as in his career, but because of those circumstances fans had to weigh in the controversy into Ali's legacy .. which is bullshit as it had nothing to do with Ali's milestones or the lack thereof. Its the same with Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao had a good career, not a great one. Its marred by cherry picking, weight manipulation clauses and towards the end, *Pacquiao had been masquerading as a welterweight but exclusively fighting only lightweights and super lightweights by paying them to move up and pretend to be legitimate WW competition.* Its all verifiable. All one has to do is read Pacquiao's resume. Marquez. Bradley, Rios and Algieri were never factors at WW. They were *NEVER* real welterweights. They were *GIFTED* opportunities so to make Pacquiao look good .. but it backfired a time or two. After having fought Mosley in 2011, those men comprised Pacquiao's opponents until 2015 when Manny finally agreed to fight Floyd. *Who does that?* That would be like Deontay Wilder paying light-heavyweights and cruiserweights to move up and *PRETEND* to be heavyweights fighters just to say he has some recognizable names on his resume. I didn't even get into how Pacquiao faced *EVERY SINGLE WELTERWEIGHT HE FOUGHT ONLY COMING OFF A LOSS* (minor tune-ups don't count) and most of them were bound by catchweight clauses. *DLH* - coming off loss to Mayweather while weighing 170lbs+ .. but made to fight Pacquiao at 145lbs .. a weight DLH hadn't made in 7 years. *Hatton* - Coming off KO loss to Mayweather .. but was admittedly a drug addict and alcoholic when he faced Pacquiao. *Cotto* - Coming off horrendous bloody beating at the hands of Margarito .. but made to cut unnecessary weight to slow him down and sap his stamina against Pacquiao *Clottey* - coming off loss to Cotto *Margarito* - coming off KO loss to Mosley, but was paid to fight while he was banned for cheating because Pacquiao had Arum pay Texas to lift the ban there. *Mosley* - Was dominated in loss to Mayweather. Look weak in his next fight against Mora. Pacquiao smelled blood and swooped in. The thing is .. Pacquiao could have fought nearly everyone of these men(except DLH) *BEFORE* they lost. Manny *CHOSE* to wait until someone else exposed their weakness first *IN EACH INSTANCE* .. and only then did Manny find the heart to sign a contract that almost always contained a weight manipulation clause. I'm sorry .. but with all those manufactured elements needed to make Manny Pacquiao appear formidable, that's not the kind of greatness that anyone could compare to the greatest fighter in boxing history. People should remember .. and I know it gets hard to remember sometimes because there are so many paid, company-mouthpieces like Kellerman spreading propaganda .. that Pacquiao was *NEVER* Mayweather's rival. Pacquiao was Juan Manuel Marquez' rival. The prospect of a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight enticed the masses to speculate about the outcome .. but that never meant that a man who could be outboxed by Morales and put to sleep by Marquez was at the top as an elite boxer. Manny gave great, exciting fights as a gutsy guy darting in and out against men who others thought had a better chance than they did. *But comparing Pacquiao to Mayweather is like comparing Jeremy Lin to Michael Jordan* .. which Asian fans actually did and tried to *claim that Lin had surpassed Jordan after one season with the Knicks.* That's the kind of disingenuous nonsense that real fans deal with when we hear Kellerman say such stupid things on a network that pays him to do so. Unfortunately, because Kellerman is on television, he gets credibility that he doesn't deserve. He's seen, and so he must be correct according to some people. But that's a whole other bag of drowned puppies.

Kellerman is a walking boxing encyclopedia

@TimmyTurner421

8 жыл бұрын

+Christian Bozwell You just got #rekt mate. Your arguments are so weak. You had it coming m8

@WayneROONEY123451

8 жыл бұрын

+Christian Bozwell He's a hbo boxing analyst, who you ?

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Mbongo77 HBO analyst = must be biased

@WayneROONEY123451

8 жыл бұрын

cmoneyno5 yeah like you and those reporters, you too salty.

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Mbongo77 I'm salty because Mayweather won convincingly??? I'm salty because Mayweather won more world titles, defeated more world champions, won more world title fights, unified more divisions, defeated more LINEAL Champions???

Max Kellerman is full of knowledge! Agree with him 100%

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Agustin Barajas Lol yep.... Max Kellerman: "De La Hoya was at the end of his career and it was a competitive fight" Max Kellerman after the Mayweather vs De La Hoya fight.... kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y3-cpNx_Zri-j5M.html&t=1h16m55s Hmm.... So Max said Mayweather was a virtuoso and dominated De La Hoya.... Now it was competitive???

@chriscurtis3935

8 жыл бұрын

+enrique figueroa LOL no...

@MovieHound17

7 жыл бұрын

for boxing sure....but other sports....*FART*

@miamigo4130

6 жыл бұрын

blunty1 what is the "ultimate measurement" exactly?

@miamigo4130

6 жыл бұрын

blunty1 to me, pound for pound is how much skill per pound. Pacquiao going from 106 to 145 is alot more impressive than Mayweather's 125 to 145.

Max: Goes on a 4 minute in-depth explanation citing numerous similar cases and fighters throughout boxing history and provides clarification of boxing terms before making a conservative statement. Flomo: "I disagree."

@BrianCheng24

8 жыл бұрын

+gsimon123 That's all they can say. They don't have the intelligence or boxing knowledge to argue with Max.

@esantiago837

8 жыл бұрын

+Brian Cheng Unless of course, they bring up that lame excuse of PED. Other than that, they have no facts or knowledge in the history of boxing.

@compilethemVines

8 жыл бұрын

+gsimon123 hahahahahhaha holy shit this is what i see everywhere hahahahaha theyre all narrowminded they cant even defend their hero logically. They just gotta "no pacroid pacquiao on peds i disagree." They cant stop being stupid

@gsimon123

8 жыл бұрын

***** There is no better way to dismiss casual boxing fans than just letting them open their mouths lol

@thesciencebehindit6970

8 жыл бұрын

the one thing Max didn't mentioned and LIED about is PAC did NOT face the legitimate champion on each of those weight classes. example 154 title was vs Margarito who was NOT RANKED at 154 PERIOD.

You can't argue with idiots. Good job Max.

@trafalgarlaw355

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXqAl7CofZythqg.html

"floyd fans know very little of what came before floyd " spot on , spot on

@brmillgr

8 жыл бұрын

+Jesse Sobalvarro It's a generalization... Besides Sugar Ray Robinson the only other fighter p4p I've seen that has similar boxing skill and IQ as Floyd was Ricardo Lopez and you've probably never heard of him.

@michaelhankey4208

8 жыл бұрын

That right there, what max said sums the typical flomo. I read comments and ppl with a little information end up being experts. Just ask them.

@brmillgr

8 жыл бұрын

Michael Hankey Typical pactards, still salty and can't accept that their boy is a shitty boxer and got outclassed by the best BOXER we've seen in 30 plus years. Why? Because they don't know shit about boxing

@gvsante

8 жыл бұрын

+brmillgr yup! keep telling yourself that.

@ram.theman8989

8 жыл бұрын

+brmillgr it must suck to be as fucken stupid as you are

"I'm gonna respectfully disagree with you." Follows up with no counter-argument, just going to disagree because of bias. Every mayweather fan.

@nkuniverse7856

3 жыл бұрын

@serve and protect really?

@nkuniverse7856

3 жыл бұрын

@serve and protect oh

Max is always an honest commentator. He even bluntly asked Pac why he thought he won the fight because that's what he saw. Now him saying Pac is the greater than floyd, all this dishonest or uneducated fans are coming at him..

@cindymananzalamartinez6679

6 жыл бұрын

its true...he really is honest and credible...coz he clearly said he believed floyd won the fight...but for him manny still is the better boxer for valid reasons he stated that floyd fans refuse to understand

@Flexb123

5 жыл бұрын

I thought the fight was a draw. I can't give that fight to Floyd when it seemed he didn't want to fight. He did land more punches but Pac landed the harder and more damaging shots. They wanna give Canelo all the credit in the world for slowly coming forward on GGG, meanwhile Pac who was half the size of Floyd, was running forward all night aggressively pushing the action. I don't think either man did enough to win but it's a real shame they gave the guy who didn't want to fight the W that night.

@felarcade887

5 жыл бұрын

True, at the end of the fight when manny says he thoth he won, max ask him: you think you won? Max belives floyd won but also belive manny is a better pound for pound boxer, i don't know, i don't think floyd won the fight...

@cobs9420

2 жыл бұрын

@@Flexb123 Facts & Floyd wasnt even countering and Pac always had him on ropes

@briharrisWarhmmer40kfan

Жыл бұрын

@@Flexb123 I'm with you, it was an awful matchup of styles,pac couldn't land and Floyd didn't pick him apart or do anything special

He even knew about pancho villa the first filipino world campion who died of tetanus from tooth extraction at a young age

@jexusmasilungan250

3 жыл бұрын

That is not a surprise, he is a sports broadcaster. And panco villa is a famous champion too, so for me it's no surprise

PACQUAIO is "The REAL GOAT!!!" Enough said!

@user-vc6iw5bi9h

3 жыл бұрын

@Derrick Woods well pacs the goat. mans 40 years old beating a prime thurman so shush

@theguythatstealsyourfood4099

3 жыл бұрын

Mayweather goat of chickens lmao

@gaurathigpen2541

2 жыл бұрын

He lost. Jackass

I agree, what Manny has done is incredible, a man his size taking on guys like Cotto, Bradley, Mosley, Margarito, etc is crazy. He not only competed well in that weight but beat all those guys. Floyd vs Manny, Floyd wins, but the best of this generation is Pacquaiao

@WILLtTHOMPSON2906

8 жыл бұрын

still don't even see that Floyd won that tbh and he won't rematch as usual even with the shoulder question

@terrence0258

8 жыл бұрын

+Ingo Castilho He was able to take on those guys because he was on steroids. The reason no flyweight has been able to have success at welterweight/junior middleweight is because no one can do it naturally. You take a guy that is probably one of the best small fighters ever, with unreal speed, pump him full of juice, and voila, you have Manny Pacquiao. He's looked average as hell and hasn't knocked out anyone since they started doing olympic testing for his fights.

@WILLtTHOMPSON2906

8 жыл бұрын

terrence0258 k pacs the only boxer in the big leagues on peds? Lol

@caseymckenzie3951

Жыл бұрын

Ur insane if it was steroids g did he stun Floyd in the 4th and six round and Floyd made sure he was tested manny has always had a lightning left hand hand even at the beginning of his career he was knocking people out with the same punch

They never answered Max Kellerman's question though, mayweather had size, height and reach advantage, even refused to show his weight fight night. If you shrunk mayweather to pacquiao's size or other way around, if they were playing at even weight and size, pac would win

@forest282

8 жыл бұрын

+Inno Irving Estrera yep...if mayweather was smaller than pac, pac would destroy him or even if same size...not just that but even 5 years earlier pac probably would've beaten mayweather...their best argument is that mayweather is undefeated and he beat a smaller p4p great...what happens if mayweather (who won so many world titles) goes up and fight ggg who people say hasn't fought quality opponents and mayweather ends up getting ko'ed....i guess ggg is the better p4p because he is still "undefeated" n be beat a smaller guy who people praised as "TBE"??

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+forest282 LOL GTFOH.... Mayweather was fighting at 105 pounds at age 15 too... Mayweather actually signed the contract to fight Pacquiao in 2009/10... Pacquiao signed to fight Clottey and Margarito in Dallas

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+forest282 Mayweather won more World Titles than Pacquiao 13-7, Won more world title fights than Pacquiao 27-15, defeated more world champions than Pacquiao 24-16, defeated more LINEAL Champions 6-3, unified more divisions than Pacquiao 3-0 and defeated Pacquiao in the ring...

@haze_the_alchemist1123

5 жыл бұрын

He did hide his weight I swear I remember seeing that on fight night smh

@lukekhang3113

4 жыл бұрын

cmoneyno5 bruh doesn’t matter if he fought at 105 at age 15 😂 he fucking grew

Mayweather is better in putting the audience to sleep

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+KC A Pacquiao is better in getting put to sleep

@RatBastard701

8 жыл бұрын

+cmoneyno5 W

@205ENTMore

8 жыл бұрын

+cmoneyno5 😂😂😂😂

@fau2an100

8 жыл бұрын

+KC A HAHAHAHA

@DjWarp79

8 жыл бұрын

+KC A Can't stop laughing man. you made my day...

Muhammad Ali 5 Losses George Foreman 5 Losses Larry Holmes 6 Losses Mike Tyson 6 Losses Evander Holyfield 10 Losses Lennox Lewis 2 Losses Roy Jones Jr 9 Losses Sugar Ray Leonard 3 Losses Roberto Durán 16 Losses Manny Pacquiao 6 Losses ... Floyd 0 Losses But all This Boxers are Legends and they are greatesr than Floyd So win is not everything , it all about RISK not RUNNING

@thegianttroll2423

6 жыл бұрын

They haven't beat more champions then Floyd

@LalaR6

6 жыл бұрын

buakaw banchamek i

@adasga

6 жыл бұрын

If they had as many belts in the time of Sugar Ray Robinson as they have now, he would have beaten more "current, former, and future world champions" than Floyd has a total of fights.

@nikokiko47

6 жыл бұрын

We are in an era where anyone with a good enough promoter can be ONE OF the champions we can find in every division. Being a champion or an ex champion has little weight today

@bustarhymes6188

6 жыл бұрын

You‘re absolutely right that being unbeaten makes you by default greater than anyone else BUT only according to the Judges Floyd is unbeaten. What‘s with Marquez I?

When he was on his prime he beat legends. Now that he is a Legend he is now beating primes. The one and only 8 division world champion Manny 'PacMan' Pacquiao.

@patrickwinn9700

4 жыл бұрын

Manny won the fight Maywether is a cheat

@erwinroyo3180

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@Manz189

3 жыл бұрын

@Derrick Woods mayweather has no honor as fighter who just keeps running a hugging his opponent and bribing the judges for the decision to be in his favor.

@devacademe

3 жыл бұрын

@Derrick Woods Mayweather is the undefeated champion who dodged Pacquiao in his prime and gave us a lot of boring fights. so 50-0 don't mean shit

@botfields_hardcoregamer6401

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickwinn9700 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 floyd beat that fool 10rds to 2. Give up

Years from now, when the dust settles, when the two are either dead or very old, Max Kellerman's words will be the truth. Manny Pacquiao's boxing legacy will always be greater than Floyd Mayweather's.

@TheRexrapper

5 жыл бұрын

Highly doubt it.

@tjadams1089

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not wtf lmaooo

@qwerty-so7nk

3 жыл бұрын

@@tjadams1089 his still around and STILL makin history and here you are cant accept it. Lmaooo

@qwerty-so7nk

3 жыл бұрын

@@tjadams1089 floyds 50 and 0 is not new in boxing history. you know what new? A Boxer who fought an mma fighter a karate kid and a youtuber. Thats new. Maybe floyd will remember in the future for this messed his makin in boxing. Hahhahhshshh

@roycewolf1268

2 жыл бұрын

100%

Pound For Pound, Pacquiao went up from (titles) 112 to 150, which is 38 pounds. Floyd went from (titles) 130 to 154, which is just 24 pounds. Manny was also an aggressive, athletic freak who was knocking out guys much bigger than him when he was in his prime. Throw in the fact that Pacquiao came from nothing in the streets of the Philippines, whereas Floyd was born and bred to fight (his dad and uncle were both pro fighters) and Manny is definitely better P4P.

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+PhillyPhan Except.... Mayweather 13 world titles Pacquiao 7, Mayweather 27-0 in world title fights Pacquiao 15-4-2, Mayweather defeated 24 individual world champions Pacquiao 16, Mayweather unified 3 divisions Pacquiao ZERO, Mayweather retired LINEAL Champion at 147 and 154, Pacquiao only had one unification fight at 147 and never defended his 154 title.... Mayweather won ALL of the welterweight world titles.....

@TimmyTurner421

8 жыл бұрын

+cmoneyno5 I agree that you are a flomo

@MrReav13

8 жыл бұрын

cmoneyno5 Obviously you didn't read my post.

@Alpha-jk3be

8 жыл бұрын

+cmoneyno5 Dude, 750ml IV voided 49-0... Lance "Floyd" Armstrong being TBE is a blasphemy in sports..

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+PhillyPhan Obviously your post doesn't matter

Max Kellerman said he'll try to make it simple for the Floyd fan. Good luck with that shit. Max would need to write it with crayons on a giant piece of paper, in big letters and veeeery slowly...

@usaisgood8433

8 жыл бұрын

Lmao!

@66korean

8 жыл бұрын

+noel danseco - As opposed to brain dead Pac fans who refuse to admit the truth. They went hand to hand and Pac lost fair and square. In what fucked up world do you lose a fight to a guy and then some people think you are better than the guy that beat you?

@DLMiralles

8 жыл бұрын

+Tony Stewart Did you even watch the fucking video you idiot? Do you understand what P4P means?

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+DLMiralles boxrec.com/records P4P Ratings

@usaisgood8433

8 жыл бұрын

Verrewwyy swowwwwy! Lol

Max: Gives intelligent, insightful, and accurate reasons to back up his statements. Camera guy: I disagree... Lol. Cool story bro.

@newtype5005

4 жыл бұрын

Flomos in a nutshell.

@jessapeley8439

3 жыл бұрын

Bobo eh

@engr.songjihyo2022

3 жыл бұрын

@Derrick Woods them tell that to mr Bert Sugar that knows everything about boxing but never box.

Now that's what I call knowing your boxing! Well said Max

@ayoval2411

3 жыл бұрын

@Derrick Woods You don't need to box to know about the sport lol

Pacquiao was a destroyer. Floyd is a guy who figured out how to win on points without him or his opponent getting hurt.

@royhatts1

8 жыл бұрын

+Greg Falco So Mayweather's the better boxer is what you're saying

@gregfalco4528

8 жыл бұрын

royhatts1 Well you certainly couldn't call him a fighter.

@66korean

8 жыл бұрын

+Greg Falco - That is the dumbest shit I have ever heard in my life!!!!!!!!!!!! He is not a fighter? Have you seen Mayweather's early fights in his career? Do yourself a favor and check them out and then come back and apologize for that asinine comment. NUMNUT!!!!!!!!!!!

@gregfalco4528

8 жыл бұрын

I've watched his career from the beginning (I'm old}......the only guy he's ever buzzsawed through was Angel Manfredy, and that was IN THE NINETIES.

@edestabillo2391

8 жыл бұрын

Why do people keep saying did you see floyd early career fight? Stop going back to past we talking about now floyd change he scared now. Pacquiao early fights still destroying fighter and still now. See the difference pacquiao is the best.

How Floyd fans talk shit "49-0, TBE, your a casual and you don't know boxing"

@lawrence9423

8 жыл бұрын

undefeated or not there's no way you can say you've never seen a better fighter than Mayweather if you know boxing

@MacStatic

8 жыл бұрын

+steve davis If you've only watched boxing for the past 7 years

@lawrence9423

8 жыл бұрын

+MOS exactly my point. That's not enough time or far enough back to call him the greatest cause in 7 years of watching boxing wouldn't really say you KNOW boxing

@starwarsonly5860

8 жыл бұрын

steve davis i've seen better fighters than mayweather like pac lol mayweather is a better boxer not fighter

@outsiderdf

8 жыл бұрын

+trenton downe record means nothing, when you fight fighter either before their prime or after their prime, especially if your specialty is defense.

Dontae: I have to disagree with you on that Max. Max: Who asked you? I'm sorry who're you again?

@executor2056

2 жыл бұрын

Is that the same Dontae from Dontae's Haters Nation? lmao

Pacquiao has surpassed Mayweather. They're both greats but Pacquiao put himself in front with taking on every challenge there is and was. He never ducked no one and fought all the best matches out there and won from Mayweather's generation, and now taking on today's generation and winning. That's amazing..

@cmoneytheman

4 жыл бұрын

no he didnt stop trolling

@headithome5870

3 жыл бұрын

@Derrick Woods Floyd never beat Pacman. If u r honest and respect boxing as a true sport of spirit u wouldn't be speaking so. For ur kind information go check the slomo video of the match and see the strikes landed by Pacman and Floyd and have u ever wondered y Floyd never fought outta VEGAS. BETTAR THINK ABOUT IT

Floyd is confirmed to have done something illegal 750ml IV.. Thus, Lance "Floyd" Armstrong being TBE is a blasphemy in sports..

@Alpha-jk3be

8 жыл бұрын

+loadfaster You should get out of your cave sometimes.,.

@Biswalt

6 жыл бұрын

loadfaster you're crazy WADA said it happened so did Nevada's Athtletic Commission. Floyd, even admitted it happened and just claimed it wasn't illegal...but we know that it was because the amount he took was over 50ml. And anything over 50ml needs to be administered as part of a hospital stay, etc. it's not like he took steroids. It was basically salt, water, and vitamin c...but the amount and manner in which he took it was CLEARLY illegal.

Perfectly stated Max. These Flomos can't seem to understand.

can't really argue against what Kellerman's saying

@patricktenorio1802

8 жыл бұрын

+Ezra Newsome for sure, hes just saying its a much more impressive resume than floyds, dont know how interviewer couldnt get that,

@procioneintubato

8 жыл бұрын

+Patrick Tenorio beacuse pactard, 49-0, TBE, money. That's all the boxing knowledge of the average Mayweather fan.

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

procioneintubato World Titles Mayweather 13 Pacquiao 7.... Record in World Title fights Mayweather 27-0 Pacquiao 15-4-2, World Champions defeated Mayweather 24 Pacquiao 16... Record vs World Champions Mayweather 26-0 Pacquiao 20-5-2... Divisions unified Mayweather 3 Pacquiao 0.... Record in unification fights Mayweather 6-0 Pacquiao 0-2-2... Lineal Champions defeated Mayweather 6 Pacquiao 3..... Mayweather defeated Pacquiao in the ring.. Mayweather is well above Pacquiao... In Mayweather's last 33 fights 31 were against World Champions, Top 10 divisional opponents and/or P4P Top 20 fighters... Mayweather's resume is better than Pacquiao's as well..

@Dro_gon

8 жыл бұрын

+cmoneyno5 fighting in Vegas all the time and being juiced up. Mayweather's numbers mean nothing. He's another Lance Armstrong

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

Dro gon You got facts to support your statement?? The reason why he fought in Vegas for the last part of his career is because he was bound by contract to fight at the MGM it had nothing to do with drugs or cheating... Mayweather's exclusive deal allowed him to receive all the $$$ made from the live gate, concessions and memorabilia sold at the MGM during fight week...

The guy who said: "I respectfully disagree with you" without giving any argument vs Max's points basically proved Max's points about Floyd's fanboys. Lol! Max makes a great point. If they were the same size, imagine that, Pacquiao would be scaring people at Welterweight. ANd Pacquiao would be moving up to middleweight to challenge bigger fighters. Lol!

I agree with Max 100% !

@tommytimetelevision3316

8 жыл бұрын

Christian Bozwell​​​​​ oh here we go...it's nothing to do with my name, race, colour, religion etc etc etc. All my idols are black Americans. Just think all Floyd was, was a great risk assessor. He was never unbeatable as a technical boxer. Most of his big fights were timed out to ensure the victory.. He's got a crafted 49-0 resume : majority of his fights were against opponents past their prime. For me he didn't have the heart to be a fight, nor the skills to fight fair in the early rounds.  But was great at taking the hype out off a huge event & umph out of a opponent as soon as the bell rang.

@tommytimetelevision3316

8 жыл бұрын

Christian Bozwell​​​ 2006 to 2011 hence Floyd retiring. Maypac was most demanded by the fans after MayHat. That's another thing with Floyd. One minute He uses his money veil to duck fighters "I can make 80 million fighting someone else" and the next he's using it to cherry pick past their prime over the hill fighters. He claims he's for the fans. He's done nothing but spit in fans faces and rip them off.

@streetgato9697

8 жыл бұрын

+Christian Bozwell Dude u be just nitpicking it's not even funny. Rematch and trilogies are part of boxing tradition. Morales and Barrera are topnotch fights, viewership and sales proved fans wanted those coz they 4 sure will see a real fight, not a Dancing with the Stars when Floyd fought Baldomir. Who wants to see that shit? Give credit to Floyd for rematching Castillio, since everyone with half-a-brain knew Floyd lost the first one SMH.

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Tom Star Gazer Pacquiao fought Morales twice after Morales lost....

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Tom Star Gazer Mayweather unified 3 divisions, Pacquiao never unified a division.... Mayweather won 13 world titles, Pacquiao won 7.... Mayweather 49-0 Pacquiao 57-6-2.... Mayweather 26-0 vs world champions Pacquiao 20-3-2..... Mayweather 27-0 in world title fights Pacquiao 15-3-2.... Mayweather defeated 24 individual world champions Pacquiao 16.... Mayweather retired as LINEAL Champion at 147 and 154, Pacquiao only had one unification fight at 147 and he never defended his 154 title.... Mayweather never fought for an interim, minor or VACANT belt, Pacquiao won 8 interim, minor or VACANT belts.... Mayweather won all 4 147 titles without losing them in the ring, Pacquiao only had one unification fight at 147....

I thought he was a wack job when I first heard this but he really convinced me with this argument. Pac really is better p4p

@jgravitas7008

8 жыл бұрын

+Christian Bozwell I couldn't find the other post you responded to me on so I'll respond to you here. YOU'RE BOTH BEING IDIOTIC (about putting down Max just because you don't like his opinion). Btw, Max is NOT being a fanboy. I live in LA and Max on his LA radio show said that he thought Pac was better pound for pound right after the May-Pac fight. He's been saying this for a year now and on his local LA radio show where he would have no reason to promote Pac for HBO. Why can't it just be his honest opinion? And why do you have to put him down?

@jgravitas7008

8 жыл бұрын

+Christian Bozwell Facts are facts.

@jgravitas7008

8 жыл бұрын

+Christian Bozwell Facts are facts. He said that that after the May Pac fight. He could have changed his mind, if he actually already assessed their standing in boxing history. Send me the links where he's done that. He could have just changed his mind if he did have different opinions before. Why are you guys over-complicating all this?? Lol!

@jgravitas7008

8 жыл бұрын

+Christian Bozwell I accidentally pressed send after "facts are facts".

@jgravitas7008

8 жыл бұрын

+Christian Bozwell Well, you said you can give me the links in the past where Max had already assessed Floyds and Pac's place in history pound for pound. Where are the links? You said you'd provide the links!!! It's in FINE PRINT right above. LOL!!

Pacquiao and Floyd are both great. It depends on where or what perspective you look at it.. in terms of winning championships from different divisions, KO percentage and number of fights - Pacquiao is Great. in terms of win-lose % (undefeated), punching accuracy and chin - Floyd is great. They are both great. One can argue that since they both fought each other and floyd got a decision win, floyd is greater than Pacman... That's the reason why Max Kellerman said "pacquiao is arguably the greatest in this era"

Dude knows his shit. Got to give money his dues though for what he achieved.

@nexttvmarketing

8 жыл бұрын

+chanhuor A history major knows his shit?? Right

@chanhuor

8 жыл бұрын

+nexttvmarketing I'm sorry bro, not sure where your getting at since knowing history is the basis of the present and future. So knowing history on any subject is beneficial. Now than again what each individual perceives as truths or facts is purely subjective, but he clearly can back up his rationale regardless if he's wrong or right. Can you say the same? If you can that's great and kudos to you. Have a great night.

@Agbahizzal

7 жыл бұрын

This is how you shut someone up without cussing. Kudos man.

@nexttvmarketing

7 жыл бұрын

I can easily but is it really worth the time? The low class pacquiao fans are not really boxing fans...I get it their supporting there fellow countryman but they have do so in a very low class racist way...not considering that black people are number one in sports, music , dance and sex...everyone knows that...

Everything he said is 100% true especially the Floyd mayweather fans part

This was brutally honest lol. Flomos on suicide watch now LOL!

@mcveritas7501

8 жыл бұрын

+Achilles Caezar Flomos on suicide watch ; I pee my self a little...Lol!

@mattj4362

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao y’all are so pathetic Pacquiao lost to Floyd no matter how you slice it. Whatever a tv personality’s opinion is, when they got in the ring and fought against each other, Pacquiao lost and he, nor his delusional fans, will ever get that back.

@la-do-ra-ch6810

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattj4362 Of course it matters how you slice it LOL. You have to be a casual to think otherwise. Floyd ducked him in his prime and he was the smaller fighters LOL! This is a fact. Even if it hurts you. Pacquiao was also injured and Floyd used illegal Ivys in that fight. Also FACT.

@mattj4362

3 жыл бұрын

@@la-do-ra-ch6810 only casual is you who is so broken by your favorite fighter losing that you can’t give the man who beat him credit.

@la-do-ra-ch6810

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattj4362 He's not my favorite fighter, casual. He's never been. I'm just stating facts, casual. Sorry to hurt your feelings.

8 division world champion5 division lineal champion3rd boxer in history to win genuine world titles in three of the original eight weight divisions of boxing3 time fighter of the year2 time best fighter ESPY award He is the longest reigning top-ten boxer on The Ring's pound for pound list And lastly the FIGHTER OF THE DECADE for 2000

@thegianttroll2423

6 жыл бұрын

leeaaron villapez been knocked out 3 times

@adobdebunkology5671

6 жыл бұрын

+The giant Troll - And your point is?

@adobdebunkology5671

6 жыл бұрын

+Chaitan Reddy, There is no doubt that Floyd Mayweather is a hall of famer. No one is disputing that. If you look at the title it say "Epic explanation by Max Kellerman on why Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather"...... Not whether Floyd is only a good fighter or great fighter, or hall of famer........But whether Pacquiao was greater. You're making massive leaps and then ended with "fucking casuals"....... It is arguable whether Pacquiao was greater than Floyd Mayweather "pound for pound". And Max made a good point, Pacquiao is naturally smaller than Mayweather. We are afterall talking about "pound for pound". Personally I think pound for pound is a bullshit term.

@adasga

6 жыл бұрын

P4P is a bullshit term because people usually don't know what it means. SRR won fights in multiple weight divisions and was dominant despite size and that's why that term was brought. Who is the best fighter REGARDLESS of weight divisions. How does one prove that? Fighting at multiple weight divisions. So many people like Chaitan Reddy above didn't even understand Kellermans argument even though he explained it extremely clearly. If we cloned Floyd and the original had this career his had now and the clones career would be as follows --> Moves up in weight to 160 to fight GGG wins the fight defends belts against Danny Jacobs and loses a close decision, then moves up to light heavyweight and beats Andre Ward then defends the belt against Sregey Kovalev succesfully and then fights Anthony Joshua at heavyweight and get's knocked out in a tough fight. The clone Mayweather has losses in his resume but this clone would be the better P4P fighter than the original.

@adobdebunkology5671

6 жыл бұрын

No, pound for pound is a bullshit term because it's all subjective. It's purely based on opinion and they always look at the smaller boxers simply because they are "multi-weight division champions". But when you consider that there is only 8 pounds difference between a Super-Bantamweight and two divisions up at Super-Featherweight. (Three weight divisions and four recognised world governing bodies). That means there is 12 major world title belts available to a Super Bantamweight boxer who only needs to put on 8 pounds and have the opportunity to become a 3x multi-weight division champion, without even fighting the best in those divisions. Then it's not surprising that Mayweather and Pacquiao are "multi-weight division champions". Meanwhile David Haye won a heavyweight title strap back in 2009 and gave up 100 pounds of weight against Nikolai Valuev and no one bats an eyelid, because it's heavyweight.

He mention Pancho Villa! Im crying.. I search about him years ago. One of the greatest Filipino Boxer. Thank you.

People that think his hating on Floyd, aren't listening to what his actually saying.

@wakeupworld100

8 жыл бұрын

Seriously. Maywether Jr. doesn't have losses on his record. Pacquiao does have MULTIPLE even when he beat Bradley all 3 times. Mayweather Jr. hasn't been knocked out. Pacquiao has been knocked out COLD. Mayweather Jr. lands more punches in higher percentages and has beat more world champions in a shorter period of time. When the two fought Mayweather Jr. won. Mayweather Jr. is a better fighter than Pacquiao overall even with more weight classes Pacquiao did. He got knocked out and loss against Mayweather Jr.... Ppl are mad that Flo makes mo money too.... Kellerman is a state of delusion. and denial at same time. Pacquiao is NOT a better figher than Mayweather Jr. PEACE OUT.

@bradleybanford6726

8 жыл бұрын

+wakeupworld100 - Nobody isn't saying Mayweather lost to Pacquiao. Again, you are not listening to what Max Kellerman's actually saying here. Seems like you are the delusional one here. PEACE OUT.

@johnmallqui4600

8 жыл бұрын

+wakeupworld100 didn't he lose in the Olympics

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+John Mallqui He got robbed in the Olympics in the same fashion as Roy Jones Jr.

@johnmallqui4600

8 жыл бұрын

+cmoneyno5 doesn't matter a loss is a loss

Max is the best boxing analyst in the world today.

@elyzareyes3333

8 жыл бұрын

totaly agree.

@tha1man744

8 жыл бұрын

Nah Paulie is a lot better

@Tavernum

8 жыл бұрын

+loadfaster Paulie is bitter.

@dantheman4838

8 жыл бұрын

+Brian Cheng Teddy Atlas has forgotten more about boxing than Max ever knew.

@compilethemVines

8 жыл бұрын

+Brian Cheng Larry merchant is for me. But max is distinctive too

Max has a bachelors degree in boxing, with honours in boxing history and finite details...

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Spiro Orfanos Max has a master's in contradiction with a BA in Fanboyism....

@arnnilovicentemesa4307

6 жыл бұрын

summa cum laude you mean

@clipside4823

5 жыл бұрын

but flomos has all mayweather tapes up in there shelves, 0 knowledge in boxing history whatsoever

Max is the best commentator of all time. He is not racist and only speaks the truth

Max is gonna get physically attacked by that dontae guy.

@mcveritas7501

8 жыл бұрын

+Torrente Murrieta The last 20 sec. of the video sums it up, for all the flomos out there....

@mxrodriguez22

8 жыл бұрын

Dontaes Flomonation

@robertguzman3356

8 жыл бұрын

Right, donate one racist ass fucker, he only like black fighters and talks down on any superstar that isn't black

@freemathsolver3952

8 жыл бұрын

+Torrente Murrieta lol

@mcBaronGonzalez

8 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Flomos be like "but he got more money tho"

@tor13128

8 жыл бұрын

+Adrian Medina Nice example. But really, anything that doesn't address any of the points are options for flomos.

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Adrian Medina More World Titles than Pacquiao, More World Wins and Fights, More Divisions Unified, Defeated More World Champions, Won All The Welterweight Titles while Pacquiao never unified any division, Defeated More LINEAL Champions than Pacquiao, Never fought for a vacant or interim title while most of Pacquiao's titles are vacant or interim titles...

@adrianmedina3582

8 жыл бұрын

cmoneyno5 yet all his fights are boring and only Flomos consider him the best

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Adrian Medina You're definitely an idiot.... Blaming Mayweather for being better than the top champions in the sport of boxing....

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Adrian Medina Getting KOed = better fighter??

Much love Max. Respectfully dismissing them after spending his valuable time and masterfully answering questions for willfully ignorant people.

I'm no Flomo but...the problem is counterpunchers are Pacquiao's nemesis. The old adage is styles make fights. Even if Pacquiao and Mayweather were exactly the same size, Mayweather has the perfect style to beat him. BUT prime vs prime, as a fan, I'd rather watch the aggressive more entertaining Manny over Floyd...any day. So glad that the lighter weights kept Boxing alive...

I am totally agree with this argument is just simply logic. MORE accomplishment in pacquiao than floyd , and Duran than leonard. they both have more greatness than his rivals because they were not in the advantage position. and they succeed

62 people killed themselves RIP

@ram.theman8989

8 жыл бұрын

Lmfao.

@Someone-mp6mj

8 жыл бұрын

+John Derman 210 now

@kongvang6651

8 жыл бұрын

lol

@tomsalvador3782

7 жыл бұрын

257 now and counting...

@tomsalvador3782

7 жыл бұрын

258 now

The fact that Pacquiao was a big name as Floyd, without actually selling his fights by selling his soul just to make controversy to sell fights, is a statement of how of an amazing fighter he is back then. He doesn't need to sell those fights, his fights alone is just enough

Nice one Max killed it ! I am here june 2, 2019!

he's talking about pound-for-pound not who's best head to head we all saw that fight Mayweather clearly won he makes a good argument!

@clementelogan6457

5 жыл бұрын

Nice to see some people know about boxing

can't argue with kellerman here. his point is solid as fuck

@thejabisking5426

8 жыл бұрын

+BruceBlitzHasTits So Floyd beat Pac because he's bigger? Makes no sense, if that's his reasoning Pac should have lost to everyone he fought who was bigger. Manny is a great fighter but he's 58/6/2. Arguably all those losses came in his prime. Outside of the loss to Floyd he was beat 5 times by the age of 32. Loss to Bradley and Marquez back to back. Max's point is anything but solid.

@adasga

8 жыл бұрын

+2fast335i the point is Manny is the only 8 division boxing champion in the history of the sport and Floyd is 5 division. So let's say Floyd fought light heavyweight. He would be in huge disadvantage because that's a huge step up in weight classes from his natural weight. So he "should lose" that fight. So the fact that pacquiao came from flyweight and won fights he "should have lost" is impressive. Pacquiao "shouldn't" even be competivive against Mayweather like Kellerman said. So Pacquiao winning fight in welterweight is very different than Floyd winning in welterweight. Floyd woud have to fight in higher weight class than welterweight to compare to Manny fighting in welterweight

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+adasga Pacquiao isn't a 8 division World Champion..... Pacquiao is a 6 division World Champion (WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO) 112 WBC, 122 WBC, 130 WBC, 135 WBC, 147 WBO (2x), 154 WBC.... Mayweather was definitely better, Mayweather 49-0 Pacquiao 57-6-2, Mayweather 27-0 in World Title fights, Pacquiao 15-3-2, Mayweather defeated 24 individual World Champions.. Pacquiao 16, Mayweather 26-0 vs World Champions Pacquiao 20-3-2, Mayweather unified 3 divisions Pacquiao unified ZERO, Mayweather won 13 World Titles Pacquiao won 7 World Titles, Mayweather retired as LINEAL Champion at 147 and 154 and Mayweather also won all four 147 titles without losing them in the ring... Mayweather was the only unification bout at 147 for Pacquiao... Mayweather defended his titles at 4 divisions.. Pacquiao didn't defend his World Titles at 135 or 154 and Pacquiao didn't defend his minor 140 title.... Mayweather never fought for an interim or minor title.. Pacquiao won 7 interim or minor titles...

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Spinal Erectors Yep childish name calling constitutes you know that Kellerman is wrong

@wakeupworld100

8 жыл бұрын

Seriously. Use Logic. Maywether Jr. doesn't have losses on his record. Pacquiao does have MULTIPLE even when he beat Bradley all 3 times. Mayweather Jr. hasn't been knocked out. Pacquiao has been knocked out COLD. Mayweather Jr. lands more punches in higher percentages and has beat more world champions in a shorter period of time. When the two fought Mayweather Jr. won. Mayweather Jr. is a better fighter than Pacquiao overall even with more weight classes Pacquiao did. He got knocked out and loss against Mayweather Jr.... Ppl are mad that Flo makes mo money too.... Kellerman is a state of delusion. and denial at same time. Pacquiao is NOT a better figher than Mayweather Jr. PEACE OUT.

These are actually very good analysis by Max and questions by reporters. What is always missing is the boxer’s continued education and their preparation thereof, in terms of the angular growth. Angular growth is uncommon to earth because by and large all boxers are known to having one trainer and never were and are taught by several (educators who bring out and refine talent continuously, as in without a ceiling). These engineers create schematic designs to infuse boxing’s infinite science to develop the pugilist in various angles. An automobile has four sides. The psychology, center of gravity balance and comprehension of a pugilist also have four sides. Floyd is not a great pure boxer because he N E V E R took challenges from his apex rivals on their best day. Missing are Antonio Margarito in 2006. Paul Williams in 2008. Manny Pacquiao From 2009 to 2014. During these periods Mr. Mayweather chose lower risk opposition consistently. He also fought Mr. Mosley late. He had Mr. Alvarez come down in weight. He paid a weight penalty to lighter weight adversary in Mr. Marquez. When one reviews Marvelous Marvin Hagler’s career there are no leaks. As with Sugar Ray Leonard and Mr. Duran. Floyd’s career is full of leaks. No bank honours a portion of a counterfeit check. By Way Of The Christ to Coach Hilario Copyright 2019

That’s crazy, this video is from 7 years ago and pacquiao is still an active boxer beating down the new generation, the greatest boxer of this era.

Flomo's getting butt hurt LMAO

@josebahena4242

8 жыл бұрын

fr

@abcmaya

8 жыл бұрын

+jukijunk people disagreeing with kellerman's position obviously do not understand the term P4P.

@rocky486ac

8 жыл бұрын

+Nick Nixon typical response form a mayweather fan when they have nothing logical to say they result to insults lol. Mayweather fans don't know anything about boxing besides mayweather himself lol

@Jonnyboy90s

8 жыл бұрын

+Nick Nixon First they hate Max for the interview after the MayPac fight and now they ready to gobble up all his kids.

@rocky486ac

8 жыл бұрын

+drumslanga352 do u have a legitimate argument about his point??? Lol

floyd never unified the belts while Manny did it multiple times. floyd was loafing

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+triplenaruto1 Actually it's the opposite, Mayweather unified 3 divisions, Pacquiao never won a unification fight in his career.... Mayweather won all 4 welterweight world titles in his career while Pacquiao never won a unification fight in his career.... Mayweather retired as LINEAL and unified champion in two divisions... Pacquiao only had one unification fight at welterweight.... Pacquiao never defended his world titles at 135 and 154 or his minor belt at 140...

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+triplenaruto1 Pacquiao is 0-2-2 in unification fights...

@superandersonaldo3874

8 жыл бұрын

+cmoneyno5 the people he beat to get all his titles at 147 besides a one armed pac weren't that good. plus Pacquiao didn't fight for belts but he did fight p4p fighters a lot more. but u r right he although u could argue that both the draws should have went to pac and even made a case on how he won the Floyd fight

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Daniel B. Are you serious??? Please tell me you're joking???

@superandersonaldo3874

8 жыл бұрын

If most people all around the world think Pacquiao won, not just casuals either so don't say that then you DEFINITELY can.

"Well I disagree max" Damn, you told him!!

max has forgotten more about boxing than most people will ever know about it

It's funny I can hear some of the media ppl questions that do videos on KZread YTBC, I won't mention names. You had a chance to rebuttal what Max Kellerman said like they try to in videos.And as Soon as they're a few inches away from the man with a mic and a camera. Their only answer is "I degree" GTFOH

@MyVideosWillCalmU

8 жыл бұрын

*****​ yup Loool and If he's there i know DBN right there at his hip too, so where was the real questions when it was needed huh? Max must be on the coincidental list Lol

if you guys dont understand his argument, ten like he said you either dont know shit about boxin or just mayweaters fan n boys..he made 100% sense in his argument , i actually agree with him

@keenanvanzile

8 жыл бұрын

+rootofallevi got love the logic, max has a very valid point.

@stealthsounds

8 жыл бұрын

+rootofallevi agreed, Welterweight, Junior welterweight, Lightweight, Super featherweight, Junior lightweight Super-featherweight (Mayweather), Featherweight, Junior featherweight, Super-bantamweight, Bantamweight, Junior bantamweight, Super-flyweight, Flyweight (Pacquiao).... Max does make a good point. Manny started 7 weight classes below floyd. Floyd is great, but Manny is smaller than floyd naturally. Manny was always punching above his weight class. How can anyone deny this?

@sharkyh7327

8 жыл бұрын

+Stealth Sounds Cos Mayweather is undefeated (sigh) or if you say manny is the greatest you assume floyd isn't great or you are a hater

Prime vs prime, Manny would KO Floyd. You gotta remember that Manny's atricion affected his punching power much more than Floyd's affecting his defense. If Floyd fought Manny the same year Manny TKO'ed Miguel Cotto, he's lucky to reach the 8th round.

@cmoneytheman

4 жыл бұрын

yall said that years ago and with canelo and others didnt happen

I bet you 110% that FLOMOS and PACsHATER hated this man now!!! LOL!!! can't blame him for telling the TRUTH! I guess this man got bigger balls than Manny.

I enjoy hearing Max speak. I think he is a solid brotha

MAX KELLERMAN said Mayweather is the best fighter from 147 division down in another video.

@chriscurtis3935

8 жыл бұрын

Kellerman contradict his statements all the time.... Not too many people catch it because he's clever with his words

@henrychinaski5938

8 жыл бұрын

He also said he knew he would beat pacquiao and said he prefers pure boxers like Mayweather . it's not him contradicting himself , he just believes pacmans accolades equal a greater legacy than floyds.

@billyjenkins3672

8 жыл бұрын

Its because of HBO payshis bills and they hate Floyd

@gingerjaguar3614

8 жыл бұрын

You missed his point. Pacquiao isnt naturally a 147lber. Im not going to articulate the point, if you can't figure it out, you're being dishonest, or you're special.

@ericm1991

8 жыл бұрын

+Ginger Jaguar floyd and pacquiao are both small

Don't agree here. Pacquiao wasn't at his best at flyweight he got ko'd twice, then jumped to superbantam. Floyd was fighting at around 130 when he started. Pacquiao was weight drained, at flyweight, so probably should have started at around 125. Not so different. Would Floyd have drawn with Manuel Marquez at Featherweight or lost to Erik Morales at SuperFeather?

@drgknght921

8 жыл бұрын

+MrWizzleTeets pacquiao couldn't make the minimum weight division when he started boxing he was so poor that he was under 100 pounds, he admitted he had to put coins in his pants to make weight when he started boxing

@procioneintubato

8 жыл бұрын

Absolute crap.

@chalino19

7 жыл бұрын

Duran obliterates floyd at any weight, i know you can agree with that

@MrWizzleTeets

7 жыл бұрын

Don't you think that Duran would be a bit befuddled like he was against Leonard, De Jesus and Laing? He didn't seem to fair very well against these fast spoiler types and Floyd was/is king of the spoilers. The greatest spoiler of all time maybe!

@ultrasinter75

7 жыл бұрын

This was the second match. Did you forget how finished the first Duran Leonard? Both better than money maker.

Max's explanation is so clean and clear,, i dont think there will be another 8 division champion ever..

While both fighters were the same age (23), Corrales had several physical advantages over Mayweather: two inches in height, an inch in reach and (despite both arriving at the official weight-in at the 130-lb super-featherweight limit) unofficially 146 lbs, versus Mayweather's 136½ lbs

This argument is even more valid now that the Pacman is facing Thurman, Flomos!

When Max speak, everyone listen

I agree with Max.. Nobody has ever done things like what Pacquiao did in 8 different divisions. And loosing fight in a close competition against Mayweather doesn't even make sense, because he's fighting near his natural division.. While Pacquaio ripped everyone in 8 different divisions.

At 16 years old Mayweather won the golden gloves at LIGHT-FLYWEIGHT At 16 years old Pacquiao turned pro at LIGHT-FLYWEIGHT So the weight is not a argument and Mayweather beat pacquiao because of his superior technique and ring IQ not because he was supposedly the "bigger" man!

@forest282

8 жыл бұрын

+Gaël C it is because he's the bigger man...exactly what max was saying....if mayweather didn't have the reach to control his range then pac would be all over his ass...don't matter the superior technique and ring IQ...you thing mayweather can use those advantages against a much bigger guy like ggg, ward, kovalev or hopkins??? and why not if size didn't matter??

@gaelc8050

8 жыл бұрын

+forest282 reach and size are totally different! Rances barthelemy IBF lightweight champ is taller and 3" longer than GGG but Golovkin is at least twice bigger! The only argument of Kellerman is that Pacman turned pro at lightflyweight and Mayweather at superfeatherweight. But if Mayweather had turned pro at 16 like pacquiao, it would have been at lightflyweight too! so his only argument doesn't work.. when they fought, they weighted both 152 lbs fight night. Mayweather is a taller and longer BUT he is not bigger. And pacquio beat taller and longer fighter like algieri, margarito, de la hoya so Mayweather must have something more, no? like ring IQ and technique?

@forest282

8 жыл бұрын

yes mayweather has ring IQ and technique...you didn't hear max saying it's because he has the size to oppose his skill against the smaller man in manny pacquiao? of course manny beat algieri, margarito and so forth whom were bigger and taller than him but they aren't great fighters like manny and floyd...in the case of manny and floyd...it's the saying of the bigger great man always usually beats the great little man...floyd is naturally and physically bigger, taller and longer than manny despite the same weight of fight night...oscar was about the same weight as manny the night they fought but look who was still the bigger guy that night?...those are floyd's main advantages over manny...there's a limit with ring IQ if the other guy is much bigger than him like for instance if floyd was to fight ggg or ward...and if you look at it the other way around if manny had the same speed and skills as he does right now and is the same size and ggg...floyd would easily get his ass kicked despite his ring IQ

great video. agree with max totally.

I don't know some boxers claiming that they are the best ever while Manny Pacquiao just a humble boxer and human being. Manny never claims he's the best ever. Unlike Floyd Mayweather, he claims he's the best ever with the boxing record of 50-0. Julio Cezar Chavez Sr. the record was 89-0 before the Frankie Randall fight was his first loss. Chavez Sr. , Duran, Leonard was some of the best ever. For me, Manny Pacquiao is a living legend and still fighting and competitive. How can be this boxer manage his time as a father, husband, politician, boxer and etc? Most of the boxers focus just only one.

One of the guy said, I disagree with you and no words to back it up...

Flomo be like. Max hate Mayweather

Max Kellerman is an awesome guy! He does make sense!

Max is one of the best personalities in boxing. Is sad how Mayweather fans just threw hate because they disagree, but didnt put an explination as clever as This one.

@dantenava9152

5 жыл бұрын

he never defeat the pacman thats the reason got booooed by the fans who saw the actual fight! and everytime they crossed fhier path his ego is degrading and he cant hide it still bear and linger in his mind that the pacman beat him in deeds!

Fanboy asks for analysis of why Max thinks Pacquiao is better overall than Mayweather... Max gives his analysis... Fanboy says that that Max is wrong... Great work.

Boy musta hit his head after his rap career.

These interviewers swears by Floyd.

The only 8 division world champion in history. The only 5 division "lineal" champion in history. The "oldest" welterweight world champion in history. The only congressman-to-senator and a world champion in history. 3x Fighter of the Year. Fighter of the Decade. Fought 44 Title fights and beat 9 undefeated fighters. (as of July 20, 2019).

@Kevin-zj9rn

4 жыл бұрын

Fitness Fanatic lol he only was in 25 world titles fights... but everything else is good 😅

@ARMYEXERCISE

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kevin-zj9rn Brothe, what's your reaction of last night fight between Mayweather Jr vs a Pokemon KZreadr Logan Paul?

I wanna be a boxer one day and Iam training rn... I really wish max still around if I do make it... love this guy

@caseymckenzie3951

Жыл бұрын

I don’t like Kellerman I agree with him here but he changes his opinion to much

totally agree with u on ur amazing points max- Jim lampley

But on Kellerman's argument a heavyweight could never be considered one of the 'best ever' because other heavyweights have moved through weights and won the heavyweight title...?

@joshuaharper18

8 жыл бұрын

+Motherfuckerish666 So then heavyweights can't be included in P4P rankings...? Makes no sense. I'll just say, if you put Mayweather on Golovkin's shoulders and Pacquiao on Mayweather's shoulders, they still wouldn't beat Tyson Fury. So P4P is BS

@patricialockard870

8 жыл бұрын

Who gives a fuck about stepping up in weight classes? It means nothing.

something that was not mentioned was Mayweather even taking PEDs while Pacquiao was refused pain reliever shots the day of the fight for his injured shoulder. Crazy

I respect this man for calling the sport I love so much as honest as it gets. There's no bias or ball dangling in his mind. He keeps it real and most Mayweather fans can't be realistic enough to say he's not the greatest of all time. I'll give him one of the greatest but far from the absolute. Much respect to Mayweather but if anyone knows boxing and clearly max does, then you can't put Mayweather ahead of a lot of fighters from the past even with the undefeated record.

@dantheman4838

8 жыл бұрын

+steve davis As as honest as it gets? You do realise he's a HBO boxing commentator, right?,,lol.

@lawrence9423

8 жыл бұрын

+dan theman I do but the things he's saying are undeniable. I've been a boxing fan and into mix martial arts my whole life and knowledge is knowledge. he's not speaking from a bias place but true facts about the sport. No one's opinion can trump facts my good sir

@dantheman4838

8 жыл бұрын

steve davis He's a HBO commentator, so he's biased towards HBO fighters, my good sir.

@lawrence9423

8 жыл бұрын

not at all and your apparently a Mayweather fan and don't really know boxing enough to speak on it cause when all else fails you'll keep repeating the same thing as if that's gonna change any of the facts spoken in normal convo. we're done here move my man. we both know the truth and he's not the greatest ever period!!

@dantheman4838

8 жыл бұрын

steve davis But Pacquiao is the greatest ever though, right, but I'm sure you're not biased though...lol.

Does anyone know how many Mayweather fans have committed suicide since this video came out?

@brmillgr

8 жыл бұрын

+sil8ty01 Zero bc Mayweather fans actually know shit about boxing and know that Max is an HBO guy, this is a HBO aligned analysis. Any true boxing fan knows Floyd is far and away the best of this generation regardless of what a guy who has never stepped in the ring to fight says.

@HillTopHungBuck7

8 жыл бұрын

Haha Floyd Fans Only Care About What Happens In The Ring Where Floyd Dominated Pacman!! End Of Story u could cry all day.. it won't change 49-0 ;)

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Spinal Erectors GTFOH

@haze_the_alchemist1123

5 жыл бұрын

@@brmillgr yes right PAC is the greatest

He related to Aaron Rodgers by any chance?

Marciano fought cab drivers, and blown up old middleweights - terrible analogy

just saw this.. max said he knows floyd will beat pacman...but his argument is pound per pound.. that means it doesnt matter if floyd beat pacman or not.. max even gave example.. and still still floyd fans cant understand.. and most of them have english as their first language😂✌️

@ad24GG

11 ай бұрын

mga kano lang naman may gusto kay floyd... lalo yung mga black american....

Super-featherweight Floyd > Super-featherweight Pac But the Pac who dismantled Cotto *might* have been invincible. Floyd and Pac in 09 would have been the greatest fight of all time.

@seandonnelly5272

8 жыл бұрын

+Lee SOG True.. If you look at Floyd's performance against Marquez that year (throw the weight advantage out the window since Floyd was off for 21 months), that would've been incredible. The purses wouldn't have been as big though, which is where Floyd's mind was. I think he beats Pacquiao regardless, and I liked Pacquiao at the time (I recently stopped being a fan of his because of the homophobic remarks he made, but that doesn't effect how I feel about him as a fighter). I hope Ward-Kovalev and GGG-Canelo make up for Mayweather-Pacquiao as far as action goes, although as a fan who appreciates pure boxing, and as an amateur fighter, I enjoyed that fight.

@itsdsworld209

8 жыл бұрын

Pac win Barrera, Marquiz and Morales when he was a featherweight. Those are 3 legends. Who did Mayweather beat when he was a featherweight? Mayweather beat some good fighters but no legends.

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Dizo4Shizo 209 Mayweather fought at super featherweight (130 pounds) not featherweight (126 pounds)

@itsdsworld209

8 жыл бұрын

+cmoneyno5 PAC fight Barrera, morale and Marquiz super featherweight in the rematch with all of them. That 3 future Hall of Famers.

@cmoneyno5

8 жыл бұрын

+Dizo4Shizo 209 Mayweather has defeated more future and current Hall of Famers

Bring Paulie M into this convo lol

@reallynow5357

8 жыл бұрын

+xxx22mike22xxx Kellerman will DESTROY Malignagi.

2023 and i still come back to this clip

This is an example of an intelligent person, never loosing cool in spite of disagreement

I remember 10 years ago when Floyd tried everything and any kind of excuses to fight the then 30 year old very Prime and distructive Manny Pacquiao. He knows Manny style will caught up on him so when Floyd sees the moment of Pac's dipping performance that's when he ask for the fight

Pacquiao fought at those weights in his teens. When Mayweather was in his teens he was the same weight. It just happens that Mayweather went pro at a later age. Whose to say if Mayweather had have gone pro when he was 15, he would probably have won titles at Bantamweight on up. Max is great in interviews though

@esantiago837

8 жыл бұрын

+TheIrishny We are dealing with facts. Mayweather has never done it at age 15...and it's not at bantamweight..it's even smaller..at flyweight.

Max is absolutely bang on the money. You have to look at their records and see not just who they beat, but when. Pacquiao has better fighters on his resume and at peaks of their career.

Nobody will replicate what Pacquiao did. It's like Teofimo Lopez beating Fury/Joshua.

He forgot that those titles PacMan won were at catchweights

@proletariat9467

8 жыл бұрын

Looks like another fan boy is upset, well putting pillows on Maidana is a bitch move no haha yeah you can shut up now lol

@raqueltarenio2125

7 жыл бұрын

stop making excuses if floyd fought margarito he would make margarito gloves so big and try to run all night long pac stood up against margarito floyd cant even stay few seconds in front ofcoralles

"WAAAAAH, MAX KELLERMAN DUN LIKE FLOYD! HE RACIST! WAAAAAAAHHHHH!" - All Flomos

Started at 108 flywt up to 154 middle wt the fighting senator is one of a kind, all alone up there with 8 division world championship. We may not see another phenom (an all time great and most entertaining fighter) like him in our life time. So let’s just respect his achievements , appreciate and enjoy his show in the ring. Now since he does not need money for himself, big part of his winnings lately is for some poor people in the Philippines. He is not only building schools and hospitals but also houses to give away for free for the less fortunate, instead of buying luxurious items to show off. Thanks Senator for being a role model, a humble champion and philanthropist. Too bad he can not be all time great in the USA, he is a Filipino not American. But the world knows.

the idea that that not agreeing with his opinion and reasoning means, you either don't no boxing, or you're being dishonest, is not schooling the reporters, it's narcissism in it's purest form..