Ep. 246 | The Lacking (with Peter Rollins)
Joshua and Ryan discuss the fear of missing out (FOMO), the joy of missing out (JOMO), and how to be content in the midst of uncertainty with author, theologian, and philosopher Peter Rollins. Watch “Maximal” episodes of The Minimalists Private Podcast exclusively at / theminimalists
Questions answered in this episode:
What is ‘the lack’? (03:21)
What is the difference between freedom and determinism? (04:28)
What are hypothetical and categorical imperatives? (05:57)
Can too much freedom cause anxiety? (11:22)
How do I find satisfaction with my current situation rather than constantly searching for something new? (13:10)
What is the difference between desire and drive? (15:50)
Why do most of us seem to crave change? (22:42)
What is the burden of freedom? (23:50)
What is the ‘lack of the secret’ compared to the 'secret of the lack’? (27:07)
How can I curb my constant desire for new things? (31:38)
Is our desire for the new related to our past? (33:16)
What is guilt? (38:18)
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As a minimalist I’m saving so much money I almost can’t stand myself, that’s why I’m watching this video lying down (Why stand? Why even sit upright?). I’ve never been happier. At this rate I will definitely be retiring early. God’s willing I will be out of the rat race in 8 years. I’m living off 1/4 of my after tax income. Materialistic people can work themselves into the graveyard...that WILL NOT be my fate.
Who else loves starting off their mornings with a Minimalist podcast? You two have inspired me to change my life and I have decided to make a BIGGER change this year by leaving the city for a more simple high value life.
I really like Peter Rollins. He has such interesting perspectives.
Ryan really hit the nail on the head when he talked about the feeling of being inadequate. I am impressed with how he is able to express himself in a way I can relate to. Thank you.
@TheButterflySoulfire
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, he really spoke to me.
Wow, never heard of Peter before but what an insightful, smart human being! I have been taunted by anxiety and intrusive thoughts for many years. Seeing this as a symptom of our freedom and the potential possibilities (which are infinite) is so helpful. Thank you Peter!
I used to buy loads of crap online just to have something new in my life but Minimalists made me rethink and I'm saving lots of money now I can even cut my shifts at work and have more time for things that matter! It made me realise how much happiness I get from simply having more free time to do my own thing.
When you're incomplete inside,youll start to "complete" yourself from the outside.
people always tell me i have Fear of Being included (FOBI) lol. great show guys
I love Peter Rollins, He is so interesting. BTW, listening from Ethiopia.
Brilliant! This is the level of thought that makes The Minimalists so watchable.
Regarding the comment on Emma’s question: ‘Essential beauty’ ...yas! That really resonates with me. I have a creative soul; currently expressed through fabric and quilted works. That creative process - the tension, the learning and discovery of new beauty in my work, just may be part of where my journey, my experience of lack resides... I may be way off, but this is what struck a chord for me in your excellent discussion on this topic.
🙌🏼best podcast to start my morning!
Hands down my favorite episode so far. Thank you guys so much for doing what you do. :)
Our society places such a heavy emphasis on materialism and consumerism that it causes internal pain to many when they feel they are "lacking". What is lacking?, it is only a state of being that is uncomfortable to some, when they feel they do not have what society is telling them they must have. I suggest learning to live with less, enjoying it and recognizing that, as a human being, special and unique, you are enough. Comforts will come and go, furniture and clothing are changed and lifestyles are altered, but learning to be at peace with yourself, being comfortable in your own skin will help to calm the mind and help you feel satisfied with what you have or do not have. Do not, as the old expression goes " keep up with the Joan's" just live minimally and be complete within and without.
Such a deep conversation, thank you sooo much for three of you. Love & respect.
Peter Rollins just rocks!
I really love and appreciate this episode. I could totally relate and felt like you were describing ME when talking about freedom / anxiety. Thank you!
I would love to hear more about change vs. grace when it comes to guilt.
I have a son and he somehow had a fear of being poor, or being seen by others as poor. I don’t know where that came from, because we are not poor. We never have had a lack of anything, never hungry, always food, always a roof over our heads, and even more than that, we live in relative luxery. But i do thriftshop, i don’t like being wasteful. So sometimes i would buy second hand clothes for him (and myself btw) and he hated that, dispite him liking the clothes. Somehow having second hand clothes equalled being poor, to my son anyway. So what i told him was: when you buy a new shirt, you wear it, wash it and then...it is no longer new...so basically all your clothes right now are second hand, whether we bought it new or second hand to begin with.... That one idea of ‘new’ changed everything with him... Also we talked about ‘value’ vs ‘worth’. That, i think, got to the root of his fear... Thank you for this podcast...you guys are amazing!
Oooh this was such a juicy episode. I was disappointed that Peter didn’t get to finish his chat at the end about the three things that lead to feeling lack- death, guilt, and meaningless. I guess I need to sign up for the Maximal to hear more!
Wow! Thank you for this podcast! Minimalism has allowed me to have a lot of introspection, but this was a whole new level! I was a little confused at first, but I kept with it and was rewarded with a solid "ah ha" moment, and with that said, I'm going to head over to hear the rest of it. High-five, guys!
Hey Josh and Ryan, great points in this podcast! Thanks to Peter Rollins for bringing his perspective as well. JOMO is a new term I think I will enjoy using. I experienced some true JOMO this past weekend while out camping, because I was outside of cell service and work couldn't reach me no matter how hard it tried. I missed out on some sales and couldn't be happier about that.
Ooooh a Person of Interest reference. That show is amazing. A must watch.
I absolutely loved thi spocast, I learned so much from it, being drunk is something I enjoy so much.
Hi I’m the same as this lady. So- I decorate in a neutral colour. And like u say I change colours of throws and curtains. U can also change someone else’s decor. Maybe a small room (so you don’t resent any time and back ache😆)- u can enjoy seeing the joy a friend feels and the experience of changing their room. And- they do the spending on the materials, you then also fulfil the value of spending time with dear friends and family 😃 thanks for your wonderful podcasts. 😉😁👏🙌🌸✌️✨🤩xx
Great podcast, Simpletons!!
@TheMinimalists
4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
This guests accent is unreal. 🤩
I feel really strongly like a huge component of consumerism is a lack of healthy creative outlet. The American capitalist system strongly encourages us- if not grooms us- to consume to express ourselves and define our identity. What would happen if we funded the arts (music, fine arts, dance, etc) and groomed children to express themselves through arts instead? We’d be industrious instead of consumerist.
Hello! I'm enjoying your podcast. Is there a way you can link in the description once you post the Maximalist episode that you refer to? I don't want to miss those topics. Thanks!
@TheMinimalists
4 жыл бұрын
All maximal episodes are available at Patreon.com/theminimalists.
@Ryan you should watch this video by the School of Life on why we pick our skin. It's really relevant to what you're talking about here. Also DEFINITELY interview Alain de Botton who runs School of Life on your show!
Notes 21 minutes in: For the seemingly When of unconscious drives that become desire there is with that the seeming problematic to the extent of unconsciousness of what's going on by the whom it may concern. For the Taking inventory of what's manifested there is with that possible clues once recognizing that which is holding sway may have no problem wiping the floor with that which is concerned. For the dealing of the messes there is with that je ne sais quoi accountability yet release of responsibility by the so called one put on point. For the carry forward of the living meat pan interactions there is with that the retroacting completion of signifier breadcrumbs manifested that point to a criss cross foot hold of already here more or less with zig zags by the lack w/o the lack on-ness of the one on point. I.E. fighting wo fighting. Directing wo directing. Hands on wo hands on.
I love how Josh smirks every time he calls us simpletons and how excited Peter got to to talk about free will/predetermined destiny 😂 This episode just explained what had deemed an existential crisis I’m currently experiencing - maximal here I come! Also - the bit about desire at the end. It’s 2020 and I’m still rocking the iphone5s. Every time there is a software update it packs up and slows down but over time continues to function as normal. I keep thinking I should buy a new one but I’m not on contract to be in control of my monthly spending, iPhones can be bought second hand from giffgaff but they’re £500+ for a newest version that would be worth while buying because of software updates...really, I love the 5s and will probably run it into the ground before switching to a different brand. I was always anti apple because they exploit people innate desires and now duping people into buying the latest version for £1k is just ridiculous. My 5s cost me £250 from giffgaff and I rue the day it gives up on me! - blahblahblah... anyway. Great episode as always! Love Peter Rollins
The caller who likes to redecorate might try just changing up accessories like throw pillow covers and diy decor. I change these with the seasons and find it quite uplifting.🌈🌈
Kant's categorical imperative: "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law."
"The secret of the lack" The joy is working towards something.
I think you missed Emma’s issue. She doesn’t like the guilt she feels when the husband criticizes her redecorating efforts so soon again.
You talk a lot about concept the lack , the lacking and the desire and what they are but how to remove or replace the lack of something or desire of something which is absent and doesn't exist ???
Maybe Emma should look into becoming an interior designer or stager . She could acquire some inventory and use some in her own home as well . Might scratch her itch for decor plus put her in a job she has a passion for
Ah they didn't let Peter finish talking about the two ways to address guilt!!
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Regarding masks, since the research for their use is equivocal at best, I believe we should have a choice in wearing one. I'd like to think masked & maskless people can coexist.
Ah what if advertisers were of a minimalist nature Or of a eco credential Regards from England ah and Peter sounds like my family from Belfast Northern Ireland
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Yes, what is it like to be a cat? oh human? Okay human. 😂