Ep 159 - Slavic Mythology With Leszek Gardela

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In this week's episode, Dan is joined by Leszek Gardela to discuss some of the Slavic Myths and how they may relate to Nordic Mythology. This episode features a lot of show and tell!
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  • @firesidethewater
    @firesidethewater4 ай бұрын

    I hope into the future the knowledge of slavic mythology continues to make its way into the English world. So many of us have our ancestral history there but have lost our connection to slavik language and with it all of the rich folklore

  • @sharonpopolow6874

    @sharonpopolow6874

    4 ай бұрын

    Me too, I am from Philadelphia (currently live near Atlanta, Ga)and we have a pretty large Slavic population- both first generation and several generation American- of all Eastern countries- Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, Albanian, Romanian (including Gypsies), etc. But nobody outside the community ever really acknowledges them. Most in the Slavic communities are either Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, or Jewish. I've never heard of Slavic Paganism until recently, unless you count watching American Gods series, lol. But, no, I've never heard of the Old Ways spoken of by anyone Eastern European in my own family (Polish/Ukrainian Jewish) or others I knew, only hearing of Baba Yaga and Czernobog from pop culture media. I hope that changes. Slavic culture can be just as colorful as any other culture, especially the music and dancing, which is some of the most athletic in the world (I mean look at the way the men get down low on the ground and then almost instantly pop up to high jumps!) Especially the Georgians, Ukrainians, and Russians.

  • @MashaRollz
    @MashaRollz10 ай бұрын

    This was such an enjoyable and insightful episode. From a fellow Slav - Slovak a big thank you to Dan and Leszek.

  • @eistrasza6985
    @eistrasza6985 Жыл бұрын

    As a Polish woman of both parents hailing from Norway, I was always interested in the similarities between the cultures that grew together for centuries! Great Podcast

  • @petard.3948
    @petard.394810 ай бұрын

    in the Serbian language, "svetovid-svetovit" has the meaning of God who sees everything and therefore has 4 faces. In Christianity today, the day of "svetovid" also remains, which is celebrated by Orthodox Serbs in the Balkans as Vidov-day on June 28.

  • @intelstockcooler9686

    @intelstockcooler9686

    6 ай бұрын

    Samo sto se on kod nas na Balkanu spominje kao Vid i zbog toga "Vidovdan". Pozdrav!

  • @lobytoy

    @lobytoy

    6 ай бұрын

    Световид - свети вид - видовдан, дан када је Сунце највише на небу и све се види..

  • @intelstockcooler9686

    @intelstockcooler9686

    6 ай бұрын

    @@lobytoy Sve je to lepo nego vam ja kazem kako se on pominje u nasim pesmama i spisima.

  • @FaustNemesis

    @FaustNemesis

    6 ай бұрын

    Najjače mi je to što crkva poreklo tog praznika elegantno gura pod tepih i prepravlja istoriju kako stigne

  • @intelstockcooler9686

    @intelstockcooler9686

    6 ай бұрын

    @@FaustNemesis Crkva je i u modernom dobu prestala da koristi srpski kalendar i pocela da koristi julijanski cime je stavila tacku na taj kalendar koji je narod prosto uz predvodnistvo crkve prestao da koristi ali realno gledano Sv. Sava je sacuvao neke stare obicaje maskirane u hriscanske kroz svetosavlje.

  • @MrMayki89
    @MrMayki89 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic episode! I am so proud that Dr Leszek is my countryman. His knowledge, insights and the way he is able to lecture is a pure joy to behold. I also love Dan's reactions to my native beliefs, rituals and deities. He seemed so shocked and fascinated by them it was just heartwarming to listen to. Love you guys! :)

  • @nordicmythologypodcast

    @nordicmythologypodcast

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. I love learning about new cultures and customs. It's amazing and I'm so lucky to he able to sit with Lezsek.

  • @MrMayki89

    @MrMayki89

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nordicmythologypodcast tbh I'd give up my left tit for the chance to have a conversation with this man. :D I'm exaggerating a little but only a little.

  • @zarkokaradzin5380
    @zarkokaradzin5380 Жыл бұрын

    Love listening more on my ancestral mythology and traditions

  • @MrBryan1776
    @MrBryan17765 ай бұрын

    Wonderful conversation. I had never given the Scandinavian topic much time since I don’t know anyone with a love for this history. Thank you both. I’m glad I listened until the end.

  • @amyredgrave9815
    @amyredgrave98159 ай бұрын

    The myth about Perun and Weles reminds me of Thor and Jormungandr in the story where Thor went fishing. Amazing episode by the way. I really enjoyed it 🙂

  • @kimrizo1938

    @kimrizo1938

    7 ай бұрын

    not Weles but Wolos, Wolos = Val-Tyr ( Wodan) the god of dead and fortune, the same name and functions, Perun=Thor, his name is borrowed from finnish tribes

  • @LugusmaposUidugeni

    @LugusmaposUidugeni

    7 ай бұрын

    @@kimrizo1938 This is an erroneous interpretation that needs desperate correction. Volos Norse equivalent is Njord. Vanaheim is within Jormungrund, the Norse underworld! and Njord leads the Vanir and Alfar to capture Asgard. Similarly Volos attempts to fight against Perun, just as Chyavana (Soma) fights against Indra (Perun) while the Ashvins are paralleled to Jarilo, fosterson of Veles, as Aengus is fosterson to Midir but Freyr is son of Njord. Perun is related to Baltic Perkunas, not Finnish Perkele.

  • @kimrizo1938

    @kimrizo1938

    7 ай бұрын

    I mean VOLOS/VELES ( Slavic/Baltic) is a god of the dead and fortune is the equivalent of VALTYR/WODAN , VAL/VOL/VEL is dead@@LugusmaposUidugeni

  • @LugusmaposUidugeni

    @LugusmaposUidugeni

    7 ай бұрын

    @@kimrizo1938 The Baltic equivalent is Velines/Velnias. Odin is not the god of the dead, that would be Mimir and there is no god of fortune as that term is too abstract. Even though there is a possible etymology between Volos-Veles and the Norse word Valr and one of the epithets of Valtyr (Odin) this doesn't make them similar. If you analyze the myths more closely, Njord is the proper equivalent. Njord is the god who leads the Vanir to invade Asgard (Vanaheim is located in the Underworld) as Veles is a chthonic deity. The only contrast is that Veles loses the battle against Perun, who is a celestial deity (Asgard and the Aesir are located in Asgard, the heavens and Valholl is in Asgard). The Vedic equivalent of Veles is Chyavana-Soma. Chyavana (Veles) and the Ashvins (Jarilo) confront Indra (Perun) as the Ashvins want to partake in the soma sacrifice. However, Veles loses in the Slavic comparison. Odin is Rudra and Agni and Veles is Chyavana-Soma. Odin is known to divide the sky-earth unity (Ymir) while Veles is a chthonic deity as Njord is, Dionysus, Welsh Arawn, and Irish Midir are.

  • @Noeaskr

    @Noeaskr

    6 ай бұрын

    @@LugusmaposUidugeni Where are you seeing Njordr leading the vanir against the Aesir in Norse sources?

  • @zipperpillow
    @zipperpillow11 ай бұрын

    Well done Leszek. Thanks Dan, for the platform. The Zbrucz idol's "hat" seems very penile-suggestive, with the overall impression of an erect phallus. The spur seems fragile and therefore probably ceremonial. The elaborate imagery is lost if it is covered in mud. The bells are to draw attention, so it's meant to be worn before a crowd to announce status, perhaps guards of a leader on parade. The critters on top seem more like rams than cattle, but I'm not sure what cattle breeds looked like in the era of these spurs use. Elaborate riding gear may have also arrived with nomad mercenaries, since nomads love gaudy personal display, since they don't have architecture to project state power symbolism with.

  • @margaretwebster2516
    @margaretwebster25162 ай бұрын

    great interview, really interesting

  • @henryhowland4093
    @henryhowland40934 ай бұрын

    One of the most interesting things about studying Christian theology. Is observing how it was changed to be more easily understood by the people it was being brought to. So things like heaven, earth, and hell on a world axis. Is a very prominent feature in European Christianity. However, in observing the original text it’s not actually specified to what degree any of those places exist, or how they are arranged.

  • @n1ngnuo
    @n1ngnuo2 ай бұрын

    Really love that you did not interrupt and let him talk. Great podcast.

  • @greendalf123
    @greendalf1237 ай бұрын

    this was great

  • @bonecarving
    @bonecarving Жыл бұрын

    Has anyone attempted a copy of the statue with a reconstruction of what it may have originally looked like. I know it would have to have a lot of conjecture but it would be an interesting piece to make

  • @MrMayki89

    @MrMayki89

    Жыл бұрын

    As far as I know there were no professional reconstruction attempts but there are a lot of fan made replicas circulating around Poland. Besides the statue itself is in really good condition. I've seen it with my own eyes in the museum and it's a sight to behold. Like Dr Leszek said it has its own room with cool set up and ambient music olaying in the background.

  • @margaretwebster2516
    @margaretwebster25162 ай бұрын

    h ave you seen the Nunburnholme cross near Pocklington , Yorkshire, anglo saxon, viking carvings, thought to depict king Athelstan, a real surprise this church of ST james. key holder lives over road.

  • @Lea-ew3iv
    @Lea-ew3iv5 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the interesting information. Maybe the duality in the Slavic mythology has an influance f 1:20:32 rom the Zooastric. That is if the hypothesis of slavs coming from the Eurasian steppe, is serious.

  • @Randy-1967
    @Randy-196710 ай бұрын

    Czech-American here .

  • @bexmos5789
    @bexmos57899 ай бұрын

    The God with no feet is a sky god so no feet on the ground &Goddess holding the horn with mother &child beneath maybe?

  • @xexzersy
    @xexzersy2 ай бұрын

    what if the decorations are their because they looked nice

  • @mountaindewgaming2351
    @mountaindewgaming235111 ай бұрын

    Did Slavic pagans have any notion of infinite realities in there cosmology like in ancient vedism because I know the two religions are related

  • @myhandlehasbeenmishandled

    @myhandlehasbeenmishandled

    3 күн бұрын

    Slavic people received their writing system (glagolitic and Cyrillic) from Greek Christians as they spread Christianity. So a lot of those pagan beliefs is lost.

  • @mountaindewgaming2351

    @mountaindewgaming2351

    2 күн бұрын

    @@myhandlehasbeenmishandled yeah the question is basically asking if they had panentheism which is somewhat unlikely but not impossible given the unformalized nature of pre christian slavic religon though its likely they had pantheistic tendencies similar to balts with concepts of dievas/rod which is not too different from other indo European peoples

  • @pee_0656
    @pee_06569 ай бұрын

    Interesting video, I wouldn't say that Poland was occupied by Russia though (in Soviet times I mean, it obviously was occupied in Russian Empire) not only since what is meant here is the USSR (which never was Russia, since Russia was the RSFSR simply a republic inside the Soviet Union) but also because despite being inside the Warsaw Pact it still had great autonomy, it's more like how EU is and most people wouldn't say that countries in EU (which have to go along others and abide to the EU rules) are occupied by it.

  • @lobytoy

    @lobytoy

    6 ай бұрын

    You mean, krypto khazarian occupation of most Slavic countries under disguise of communism? Same deal is now in so called "EU". Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Poland etc. all occupied by same krypto khazarian EL-ite, under neobabylonian satanism. They don't even hide it 😂 just look at building of EU parlament. What do you think they bombed Serbia in 1999. for? (yeah those numbers again..) Satanists used Albanians to create a 100% CIA/MOSSAD terrorist state in our sacred KOSOVO. Than, just to mention, when Austrohungarian empire attacked Belgrade, they burned library. When Hitler struck Belgrade in 1941. it was sunday, Orthodox Ester, they bombed viciously our national library AGAIN! Look what brits and americans did to Dresden.. Just look in to those stuff, youll see their signture everywhere. Point was always in erasing folk kulture and tradition. Destroying family and atomising and dividing us. It is only way for them to enslave entire humanity. Who wonders for rabbit holes, may investigate Serbs and Serbian language bit deeper. ❤

  • @thefancysquirrel1762

    @thefancysquirrel1762

    5 ай бұрын

    Well he is an academic so he had to stick to the western narrative or he wouldn't be published.

  • @pee_0656

    @pee_0656

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ardianbakalov7186 Was Poland occupied by RSFSR is the question, the answer is no

  • @beepboop204
    @beepboop204 Жыл бұрын

  • @tinamueller8133
    @tinamueller81334 ай бұрын

    Slavic people were in the forests on land. Often far from the sea..

  • @Alasdair37448
    @Alasdair374483 ай бұрын

    The reason there's so much about the vikings and not much about the slavs or my people the celts and the way these groups are portrayed largely comes down to the way the authors themselves ethnically identified themselves as being descended of anglo-saxons and vikings therefore they elevate the "vikings" to a near godlike status while talking very little about the lands where they came from they hardly mention what was going on in the countries the vikings came from only what they were doing in europe at that time. So the reason that the vikings are seen this way is more ethnic and political than historical.

  • @myhandlehasbeenmishandled
    @myhandlehasbeenmishandled3 күн бұрын

    I like the info. But as a Slav myself, I'm of an opinion that a lot of Slavic info on beliefs and achievements are misinterpreted, embellished, and made up. I feel that pan slavicists and Slavic nationalists have made up some stuff. Viking ships are still found at the bottom of seas and lakes. Compared to Viking archeological finds there is very little such Slavic finds. For one, Scandinavian/Germanic people have been in Europe far longer. They had established their control and learned to write long before Slavic people. Long before spread of Christianity. Church couldn't just sweep Germanic/Scandinavian culture under a rug. Slavic people didn't have such opportunity. East Orthodox Church and Ottoman Muslims have done their number on Slavic traditions.

  • @ShOot4theStArZ_aim4theMoOn13
    @ShOot4theStArZ_aim4theMoOn1313 күн бұрын

    40:01 it's a child lol. it's behind a women

  • @christiankalinkina239
    @christiankalinkina2397 ай бұрын

    90% jibber jabber 10% actual information disappointed

  • @nordicmythologypodcast

    @nordicmythologypodcast

    7 ай бұрын

    Ha. Ok

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