Ep. 158 - Beckhoff v Rockwell Faceoff - Jakob Sagatowski

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A faceoff for the ages!
or a deep dive and comparison between two very different platforms.
Dave is in Germany this week, so Jakob and Vlad are running solo.
Come join us for the first major TwinCAT and Beckhoff dive on Manufacturing Hub.
It's a bit of a choose-your-own-adventure episode, so be sure to bring your questions!
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  • @AnatoliiOrestism
    @AnatoliiOrestism7 күн бұрын

    Thank you, guys !!!

  • @DaveInPA2010
    @DaveInPA2010Ай бұрын

    With my consulting customers, I have many times signed an NDA that I have marked up and submitted to their lawyers first. They are hiring me for my expertise and productivity and part of the value I bring is a growing library of generic function that does not incorporate any of their proprietary technology. But I do have frameworks for things like, generic motor control state machines, and more, and I’m trying to add TDD frameworks as well. It doesn’t hurt to ask!

  • @automationconsultingllc3994
    @automationconsultingllc399426 күн бұрын

    Another thing about version control particular to Rockwell: Its a single file. If you save the project with a date and comment well, there's a form of version control. With Beckhoff, there are hundreds of files, libraries, etc. It is also on a Visual Studio platform, which make version control applicable.

  • @orionpco
    @orionpcoАй бұрын

    Always a good show. But what is the differences between rockwell and bechoff.

  • @manufacturinghubpodcast

    @manufacturinghubpodcast

    Ай бұрын

    We left that for another episode!

  • @DaveInPA2010

    @DaveInPA2010

    28 күн бұрын

    For hardware, two words: Modularity and monolith The beckhoff systems use a miniature DIN rail slice and their PLC is exceptionally expandable. The Allen-Bradley hardware is much more monolithic. It’s configurable and expandable, but to me it’s kind of like the difference between a PC and a minicomputer. On the software side, both beckhoff XAE/TC3 and Rockwell logix5000 utilize visual studio. The beckhoff stuff is Codesys-based while Rockwell wrote their own. In the United States, Rockwell/Allen Bradley has a dominant market position, and in the control industry it’s been said that nobody ever got fired for choosing Alan Bradley. But if you took a chance on back off and screwed up, you could conceivably be looking for work. Internationally Siemens is the dominant player and beckhoff is more readily received. You will find similar architectures as well, in fact, they used to be partnered with Wago, and Kollmorgen slices are just repackaged beckhoff . Personally Beckhoff EtherCAT is a vastly superior real time network architecture over Rockwell’s ethernet/IP. I’ve programmed Rockwell/Alan Bradley for about 10 years and beckhoff for 3. Back off also has a really cool integrated CPU solution and has developed significant PC based real time technology themselves. So for example, on my Beckhoff CX2043, I can run windows on two cores of my four core Ryzen processor and run real-time stuff on the other two. That’s slick! Remember, opinions are like bellybuttons… Everyone’s got one-and mine usually stinks! 🤣 But those are my two cents.

  • @automationconsultingllc3994

    @automationconsultingllc3994

    26 күн бұрын

    Huge differences, Beckhoff is basically CodeSYS on a Visual Studio base. Most coding will probably be using ST. Ladder editor is not to the level of Rockwell. But... software is free to learn on, simulation and HMI built in. Also, Beckhoff is a computer running on Windows, communications is done similarly to other Windows systems. Rockwell software is ridiculously expensive with no real "practice" platform. Hardware also much more expensive, at least for 5000 based systems.

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