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@marclemar

8 ай бұрын

This may be a really stupid question. But maybe weigh in on how legit or how much of a solution do you think it is. I’m trying to figure who this is for.. is it for the guy with serious equipment looking for a change.. I thought about buying it for my son to get him started… is it a novelty item? Is it a true SP404 competitor but will it hold up long term… I mean the shit looks fun I just keep asking myself why and why not it’s $299

@givemeanearful

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for uploading these insightful EP-133 videos. How about showing MIDI in the other direction. I'm controlling my EP-133 from my hardware sequencer, but I can't figure out how to set the global MIDI receive channel on the EP-133. It defaults to OMNI MIDI IN, receiving all channels all the time.

@fireintheflesh

5 ай бұрын

Bro I greatly appreciate your vids! I got the KOII based off your recommendation, now I just need to get half as good as you!

Dude. Just want to say it's genius the way you're riding this wave with the EP-133's release. No joke: you're establishing yourself as a de facto subject matter expert. I've watched almost all your stuff this last week ... really good. Thanks for being real. Looking forward!

OK, I am still waiting for my EP-133 (it was supposed to arrive today), but I have been recording many Pocket Operator tracks into a DAW, and I honestly think you don't need to make the effort to MIDI-sync it. Just make sure the DAW-tempo matches the one on the KO II exactly, and record it without any sync. After that, just go to clip view, find the first beat, right-click and select 'Set 1.1.1 here'. Et voila. The tempo is stable enough to record at least 1-2 minutes without having to correct anything. (pro tip: if the chosen group doesn't have a sound exactly on the 1, just put an extra bar in front of it that does start with a short-attack sound on the 1). That saves connecting a few wires, and you don't need an audio-interface with MIDI.

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

Ignore my steps and do something that legitimately worse? 👍🏾

Damn, boy, you're on top of it! 😮

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

always fam

Appreciate you being one of the first to address it. I’ve also seen some one record into sp-404 mk 2.

you can connect via usb c to the pc and it will see it as a midi device. No adapters or midi cable needed

@styxely

7 ай бұрын

any idea how to get the sound in to logic? I can see logic is recognising the machine but don’t get how to set it up so i can hear it.

@surrealchemist

6 ай бұрын

@@styxelyThe midi is USB but the audio you still need to hook it up to an interface

You can record the midi notes too so you can have note level control of you drum loops and swop out drum samples for each pad and change the levels too. Just set up a midi channel on Live and record.

thanks, just found out that you can also send midi in/out via the usb c port!

You have become the manual for this machine

Also if you have a drum sequence instead of a drum sample and want to record the drums separately go to "Sound" menu, lower the volume (AMP) of every pad except the one you want to record. For example if you're recording the kick drum you can lower the volume of every other pad so you can just record the kick, do this with every element in different channels to get a proper drum recording. This also works as a "pad mute", instead of having to mute whole groups. If you have 3 synths sequenced in group C you can just lower the volume of the sequenced pads and then bring them in with this trick.

@AveMcree sorry to be such a newb, but would it be possible to show how/what cords go from the EP-133 into your audio interface and out to the computer? Thanks, cause this is so helpful!

@marsjptr

4 ай бұрын

1/8” to 1/4” into interface. Your interface uses a digital cable like usb or FireWire. Interface is an analog to digital converter - A/D so analog wires for audio device in and digital wires for digital out. It seems like you can also just use USB c for both audio and midi and possibly bypass the interface altogether.

@PorterhausZen

4 ай бұрын

@@marsjptrCheers, mate!

@marsjptr

4 ай бұрын

@@PorterhausZen usb - c can only do MIDI actually, you still need to output the audio using the 1/8” out

I followed these steps and still can’t get sound to record in ableton. MIDI out from the ep 133 to midi in on the SSL2+ both plugged into the computer. Preferences set to ssl2t as audio input and output device. Track and sync both selected under link tempo midi. EXT activated showing a blinking light. I don’t know if midi is a different channel on the SSL2+ but it only has two channels showing in ableton.

'i already know how my audience thinks. YES it works on FL studios.' 😂 I subbed on that

Is not easier to use midi over usb?

So finally if it can sync with Daw, and plug with others, midi keyboard, synth, … and have 8 tracks with two Ep133Ko sync ! it can be a good device for the biginners !

you should be able to do this with midi over usb too! no midi interface needed :)

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

Was addressed in the video

@joefarrin

8 ай бұрын

@@AveMcreethen you need to change what you put in the description of this video. Says,.. “midi to audio” link “for people who have an interface” instead of saying for people that do not. Just a heads up

@justaustinmorris

7 ай бұрын

Appreciate the video and you sharing all of your knowledge! But where was this addressed? Do you mean at 0:53 when you discuss midi to USB cables? I believe OP is referencing just using a USB-C Cable from the KO II to your computer and transmitting MIDI data over that cable. Let me know if I missed something or am misunderstanding!

@saschah4999

7 ай бұрын

is that possible? getting midi from the usb c cable alone, if so plz let me know how@@justaustinmorris

YO so I'm looking closely at this thing and saw it has a USB port, but no one has mentioned it. According to the TE guide, it's for power and Midi, "the usb-c port allows K.O. II to work as a midi device with clock and transport.". So can one not just plug it in via USB to achieve the sync you're describing in this video? Sorry if this doesn't make sense... New to hardware and all these connections/methods.

Just ordered mine, hopefully I get it a few weeks into Dec. Saving this for later. Debating if I should pay to update my ableton from 8 to 11 (w/ free upgrade to 12 when released)

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

No doubt

Seems like more of a pain in the ass than its worth imo

how do you get it back on the k.o. for live performances?

Great vid Ave. appreciate you on this one here. ☄️☄️☄️☄️☄️

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

Nice explainer - going to do this once the KO II is here.

Hello, I'm a beginner, I have a question: what is connected to the end of the jack cable? I tried to connect the output of the KO II with a jack cable on line 1 of a focusrite scarlett2i2 to have the KO II on my DAW: but when I use the PAN, it doesn't work, the sound is mono. The problem comes from the focusrite. How do I get the stereo sound of KO II on my DAW?

Looking forward to mine arriving soon, but a quick comment about people raving about a £300 sampler then moaning how it can’t do stuff a £1000 sampler can do, come on people understand what your buying! Ps nice vid Ave

@ayokikando

8 ай бұрын

I’m patiently waiting for the restock. It’ll be my first sampler and to be honest, I love the limitations. There’s always going to be more that they could have added, it’ll never be enough for a lot of people but for me, this is literally perfect.

@MrMargaretScratcher

8 ай бұрын

For me it's the fact that it can't do things that the £80 PO-33 can do. Mine was delivered yesterday, I've yet to open it. :/

@gadblatz4841

8 ай бұрын

It will likely fit really well into my house and techno sets. Im using a sampler to add depth and flavor, more so than as a central piece of the set up.

@BeefyTime1

8 ай бұрын

lol people are expecting an MPC 3000.

@Wheramai

8 ай бұрын

​@@MrMargaretScratcheryou better pop it open just to check that goddam fader is intact 😅

Man - this brings me back to the way I used to track EVERYTHING back in the day lol! Good video man - I am looking into something - not sure that it will pan out but I will let yo uknoe if it does! ;)

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

Salute

The way from groove box into DAW is always important - thx. I wonder if K.O. II can be synced with POs in mono.

bro I followed the video exactly but Ableton isn't receiving any sound from ep-133. (It does sync bpm and allow for track control) do you know what the problem could be? (I'm using volt 176 as my AI) 1:33 what is the output going to? monitors or the audio interface?

Very cool, excited to get mine!

I wish we could do midi data dumps for saving patterns. And program info

@FrankDigital

8 ай бұрын

Look into the RK-008

@MrMargaretScratcher

8 ай бұрын

I was very surprised to find that this is the case. Hopefully that comes in a firmware/transfer utility update

bro ive been looking for a tut like this for a while, thanks!

Bro always providing help what’s new

Can you track out punch in effects?

Thanks a lot for these videos bro! We need more tips from u.

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

More to come!

Nice one Ave appreciate, you main, happy holidays....

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

Happy holidays!

👏👏👏mine on pre order so thanks for all the info n vibes🔉🎶💥🎯

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

No problem!!

Great tutorial but wait- Doesn't KO II have midi sync over USB built-in? I haven't tested yet but seems like the first few steps of this video are not needed. Am I wrong?

but how do you do track it out if you want to perform live effects or trigger samples on the fly. Is there a way to do it all at once without have to go in and layer stuff?

YOU THE GOAT.🔥🔥🔥💪🏿

Someone can help me? When i try to record the output form ko2 to pc the audio volume on pc is too low, i have try upping knob and gaining on pc but now the problem is a loud electronic noise and an accettable volume of the instruments😢😢

Thanks Ave👊🏾👊🏾 you the shit .

Man, it's so refreshing seeing someone just enjoying the fuck out of their gear rather than bashing it and talkingad shit because it's not 100% perfect. Nothing is. No software, no hardware. It's just an on going trend to see people trash things because it makes them seem cool and "hilarious". Man, I thought this was a music producer scene, not an improve comedy one

I need to know how to get it to work with Reason!!!

They said that the blofeld had little storage memory in 2009... the same as this sampler! now that I think about it I could sequence 12 parts of my waldorf blofeld with this sampler using the midi cable. 😅👍

@livinproof718

8 ай бұрын

The blofeld was only for wavetsbles not actual samples

You don't fuck around Ave. 👍🏾

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

Not in the least bit

My midi 3.5mm adapter has the same exact specs as the one you have, but my KO ii will not read any midi.

cool!

Is this how you would export a project? Can you do a full breif tutorial? Unless I missed it.

@marsjptr

4 ай бұрын

Tracking out instrument by instrument. To “export a project” Teenage Engineering would need to create software that interfaces with their hardware. At this point they are not a software company so you have to record your tracks as analog audio files. This video is just about using midi to sync your machine to your software so it all lines up timing wise as you go track by track. If you like how your track sounds coming straight out of the box you may not want to use midi. This is so you can further mix your various layers inside your software to complete what you started on your KO hardware.

Very dope bro

Does it work with Propellerhead Reason?

Important Question Ave, during the recording in ableton (or any DAW) could you apply live punch FXs to your recording channel? Also is there a way to apply those punch FXs to your projects in any DAW?

Thanks the major issue is the 64mb should be 64GB.. I can’t even fill up the 999 slots after I drag in some of my one shot instruments it uses up all the space before I can fill all the slots

Mine arrived with fader attached - I guess they improved for the second batch. Now how do I get these stems out, shout to Ave

Can you track out the single pads in a group? Just realized holding shift down and hold down pad in a group solos that pad. You have to hold shift down whole time solo though.

Great tutorial but you dont need to use the midi ports, your not transferring midi data other than bpm, just use the output channel and go 3.5 trs to 1/4 inch, no adapter. The midi ins and outs are meant for using with synths and to control other instruments.

@marsjptr

4 ай бұрын

You’re midi syncing so each track lines up to the same start point of your session as you go through your various tracks / layers / instruments of your song. To your point, sending BPM but also allowing your computer to start the track synced up to zero as opposed to starting both machines by hand and having to use two hands inevitably leaving your two machines out of sync and timing off.

Can we get a MPC & KO2 integration video? I know you probably already have it in the pipeline 😏

Can anyone help me out? I’m trying to use this method to record into session view instead of arrangement. The reason i want to do this is to have every clip be a beat i can trigger and more easily mix into a beat tape. I got everything synced up correctly. On my macbook i run the ep-133 directly over usb-c to usb-c and have it controlling the midi sync. For some reason when i have an armed track in session view it defaults to trying to record into the arrangement view. I have to wait for my loop on the ep-133 to go all the way around and then manually trigger a clip on the session view. It still syncs up correctly but its just annoying to have to wait for the loop to go around. Especially if im tracking out an entire song. The only workaround i can think of is to make the ep-133 the midi slave to ableton but then it will get out of sync if i do any fx that switch up the timing like the tape slow/stop.

Do you know how to set this up in Pro Tools?

What if your audio interface doesn't have midi (i.e. Apollo Twin)? Is there another way to track out the tracks to the computer?

So only a track out at a time. I guess work flow is not a topic as much Ha! That is hella time consuming for some. IM sure some wont mind but if you mov through beats fast this is a tough one to get pass. Thanks for the vid though.

Nice vid! You can also do this with the USB connection (MIDI over USB)

@myklo4269

7 ай бұрын

Where can you find the cable?

@This1That0

7 ай бұрын

This is actually the only way i can get midi in and out of the KO II for some reason. USB-C to USB A or other USB -C connection to your PC should let you transmit midi, clock, and transport. You’ll have to setup the DAW to recognize the audio interface just tlike this video instructs you, but for me i didn’t use the trs to midi - just straight up usb-c into my computer.

I'm sorry but... does this NOT sync through the USB-C ?!

is there a way to just use the KO2 as a controller? lets say i want to use it to jam with a kontakt patch

Does it not do midi sync over usb?? Then all you'd need is a usb cable and an audio interface instead of all that midi stuff

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

The USB connection is noisy and doesn’t support audio

@2tallcharles99

8 ай бұрын

@@AveMcree Yeah I'm just talking about for syncing purposes. It would still require recording audio through an interface, but using usb-midi instead of the 3.5mm midi ports will save the hassle of dealing with those fickle 3.5mm to midi connectors - especially because it seems like this requires a type-A connector, when most other devices require the type-B connectors. Just sayin', there's an easier way.

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

@@2tallcharles99 if you tried to record with the USB plugged up, it would make too much noise

@2tallcharles99

8 ай бұрын

@@AveMcree Ahh ok, I tried this last night and you're right. Thanks for clearing it up 🙏

Big Ave ✌🏻

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

💪🏾

Proved once again that AI is no substitute for an artist, it's just a tool! P.S. can you please add to the description the device you used to transfer the track from KO2 EP-133 to the computer?

Why not just use USB midi?

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

Because the usb causes noise

@QWLMusic

8 ай бұрын

@AveMcree I hooked mine up via USB and good news, there's no noise.

Buy 2 and you can have 18 projects and 128 MB of memory. I guess that’s TE’s sales strategy. Not to mention that as a bonus you can have 2 broken faders and 2 bad speakers plus a few more stuck buttons. What’s really frustrating is that I really want one and don’t want one by the same amount. Frustrating!

@towerrunner4675

8 ай бұрын

This hardware revision is not the last word. They can fix weak mechanics and contacts for no money on later hardware revisions. Also they are known for special editions, like they did for PO's. Maybe that comes with more storage. It's cool to have a KO II these days, but it's also smart to wait. 🤔

@lupehn

8 ай бұрын

@@towerrunner4675I get mine in a month so mine won’t fader will be fixed

@towerrunner4675

8 ай бұрын

@@lupehn Use a hair dryer to heat your knobs up, before you plug them in. Also set the fader to highest or lowest position, before you mount the knob. Those positions have better mechanical stability.

Hi! The process is the same for Logic Pro? How to create a track for each ko 2 group ? I use Logic Pro and I searched 2 days a way but no infos anywhere .... I would like to record my sounds with Logic Pro,...

@marsjptr

4 ай бұрын

Make a new track for each layer and record as you go. Once you’ve MIDI synced the machine in Logic all tracks should line up and begin recording from 0:00.

@boarques

4 ай бұрын

thanks but I need a midi interface right? @@marsjptr

@marsjptr

4 ай бұрын

@@boarques you could also use the usb-c from the KO to transfer MIDI data. You need an audio interface although some laptops you can plug audio straight in, I think mostly older ones.

@boarques

4 ай бұрын

hi Paula, thank you for contacting us! from your description it seems like you are trying to record the different groups on separate tracks via usb: unfortunately, the KO II is not equipped with usb audio! to record it, you would need to use the line output, and connect it to an audio interface (or directly to your computer, if it has a line input). if you'd like to record the groups separately, you would need to record one group per time, and mute the others! to mute a group, hold down the group key and move the fader all the way down! don't hesitate to contact us if you have any further questions! meanwhile, have a nice day. kindly, teenage engineering support

So would this work on the NI komplete audio interface?

Broken faders and broken speakers are a huge issue. They need to do a recall.

@norenttv_

8 ай бұрын

Mine work 🤷🏾‍♂️

@hip360hop

8 ай бұрын

​@@norenttv_good for you?

@bjamminsincebirth3494

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I returned mine because the speaker was an issue.

@mindalteringfx316

8 ай бұрын

My fader didn’t work out the box. The box puts pressure on the fader. It’s a very tight fit. Next PO will probably have a recessed fader or be smaller or a bigger box.

Can u do one for protools 😅

I haven’t seen anyone else come across this issue but I just grabbed a Novation launchkey mk3. When I connect midi out to midi in on the KO2 it changes the bpm of my beat. Any clue what’s going on?

@jg_ultra

8 ай бұрын

Your launchkey must be sending midi clock. Disable that if you wish.

Next thing to go over the KO ii is how the hell did you get yours so fast? I'm checking my email like every 30 minutes....lol Naw, nice tut for sho...

But does it work in Logic?

@marsjptr

4 ай бұрын

Yes

Great video but im running into issues. Ive got mine hooked up via usb. its detecting the bpm and hwen i hit play if i have a midi track selected it will start the play bar but no sound is coming through abelton. now ive got abelton live 11 into. is this not something that will work in that version of abelton as far as you know?

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

Did you plug up the audio

@mmr3657

8 ай бұрын

@@AveMcree well I have audio out plugged into my headphones reciever but abelton doesnt see it. I was under the impression that the ep could pass midi data and audio via usb-c. is that what ive been doing wrong this whole time?

Whats the external in fl for? I usually put my take 5 on it but should it be my audio interface?

@FayezButts

8 ай бұрын

whatever you plugged the midi into

@Ra_Sharpness_

8 ай бұрын

@FayezButts so 5pin midi is all thats for?

you went through the setup waaaay too quickly. Where does the midi number you inputted come from? what?

@ 1:14 "He said connect your midi cable to audio interface" He meant connect your midi cable to your "midi interface"

@marsjptr

4 ай бұрын

He explained at the beginning that you need an audio interface with midi capabilities. A purely MIDI interface is pretty rare these days so audio interface is the more common term as that’s it’s most common use.

Dam wish there was an easier way to track out each individual group or even pad and record it in at once :(

Day 2 of trying to help Unc with his MPC problem.. Unc the other day you were in denial about the issue at hand. Please help me, help you by giving me the MPC Live II

With a push 3, mpc key and Maschine + I can’t see a reason to pull the trigger

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

then don't

@nodoze123

8 ай бұрын

@@AveMcree Lol! Point blank!

@marclemar

8 ай бұрын

@@AveMcree I’m in Step 1 of recognizing my FOMO … damn thing looks fun tho! Keep at it bro!!!

@towerrunner4675

8 ай бұрын

Mobility with monster battery life?

Can it record stereo out?

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

Just record it in stereo

What is the sampling time on the KO ll

@rorz999

8 ай бұрын

From memory it's 6 minutes stereo, 12 minutes mono - that's total sampling time across the whole unit before it maxes out

@lpn369

8 ай бұрын

@@hymefly that's not enough time for sampling bro??????🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😑😑😑😑

@saschah4999

7 ай бұрын

20 secs per sample i think aswell

You need to wait longer on menus and screens when giving instruction. Moves way too quickly to follow along.

Broken faders an speakers😂 what an Emaculate piece of Equipment 😅Ave a lame

@stolinski

7 ай бұрын

Most people aren't having those issues.

Good stuff Ave, waiting on my KO2 to be dropped off any minute now. 🫡 Keep em coming.

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

Will do!

So would this work on the NI komplete audio interface?

@AveMcree

8 ай бұрын

does it have midi in an out?