I picked up my .17 HMR a week ago and fell in love . Can not wait to see how it performs . At the least it might get my brother and I talking more . Something about the smell of gunpowder that puts a smile on your face and opens up a line of conversation between two people . 🍻🍻🍻

@mrjeffjob

9 ай бұрын

Bringing people together with burning gunpowder. Now there’s a banner for the UN. 😎🫣

Got my 1st 17HMR in 2004. I now have 5 of them. The best word to describe it, is what you said.... "FUN"

Steve is one sharp boss , hires very smart people and lets them run . Great podcast as always.

@hornady

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated

@Kycirion

Жыл бұрын

Except for that time when they threatened to fire employees who didn't get the jab. Except for that time...

@SixOFord

9 ай бұрын

​@Kycirion True that. I don't buy near as many hornady products as a result of that.

@JamesClark-lw6sw

4 ай бұрын

​@@Kycirion STOP SPREADING LIES. NOBODY at Hornady was fired for not getting vaxxed .

Love this cartridge... I've taken groundhogs at 230yrds this year. "Accurate, deadly, dependable" sums it up!

Isn't great to have a boss that gives his people the latitude to think outside the box. Keep up the good work.

My brother got the 77/17 when it first came out. A couple months after that I traded my 77/22 in for a 77/17. Dad bought us 17hmr by the case and we kept neighbor's hayfield ground squirrel free all summer and hammered squirrels in the fall. Dad later got the same gun in 17 mach 2. Around 20 years later and that's still one of my favorite rifles.

The 17HMR is just something you need to have. Thanks

Thank you guys for the development if the .17HMR! First time I shot one was a buddy loaned me his on a coyote hunt. 125 yards, DRT! I bought an identical Savage 93 .17HMR the next day (2004), and it’s still my favorite rimfire! I’m pushing shots at 300 yards, using a BSA Sweet 17 4-12x40 scope, and I’m still amazed at the accuracy and ability to stay on target. Thank you again for having the tenacity to develop this cartridge!

I bought a CZ 17 HMR with my first payday after college in 2002. I remember my dad asking was I going mouse hunting. I left it at his house with no scope or sights. A few days later he called and wanted me to go back to the gun shop to see if they had another one. He got bored and put an old Tasco scope on it and was hitting pennies at 100 yards.

Feel fortunate to have the 17HM2, 17HMR, 17WSM, & .17 Hornet. As I've gotten older (61), smaller is as good as it's always been. To the point that on small game (for meat) FMJ's would actually be more practical.

I would love to hear the story behind the .204 Ruger.

@cheifbrownrabbit3986

10 ай бұрын

What this guy said

@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649

10 ай бұрын

Then you need to hit up Ruger.......

Great to hear the full story on how the Hornady 17HMR came about,Dave (aka:Paul Davis) knew he was on to something and didn’t let up on Steve till they got her done,a wise invention indeed on such a fun little cartridge 👍

I just wanted to let u know, not long after 17hmr came out I owned a ruger 10-22 magnum that had never emptied a full magazine with out jamming at least once. I slapped a shilen barrel and a after market stock on it did a little trigger work and I would shoot 1/2” groups all day. And best of all, to this day after thousands of rounds and hundreds of squirrels it has not jammed one time!!

Good to see Steve gettin' into it. Involved leaders show support and commitment. Dave is amazing, of course. And nice to see a new face - Hello Mitch!

I love these podcasts. I find myself reliving that “ah-ha!” Moment for myself discovering each of these cartridges same as them.

Very cool to hear the story right from the man responsible for development and the boss that let it happen. I just purchased my for HMR this week. Hopefully see how it works on critter’s soon. Good episode.

Had a buddy who had a 17hrm Savage some years ago. He let me fire it. I said "Mother of God". Talk about fun! Bought the same Savage 93 he had within a week. So much fun!

9:14 Real privilege to see and listen the person which has developed the product. Thanks. Need more of this. 👌👏🏻

from the first time i used the 17 hmr i was hooked!

@brianohren2672

6 ай бұрын

Me also I have two rifles in that caliber.

I bought one of the Marlin heavy barreled rifles when they first hit the market. Then the bullets sold out every where. Still love it over 20 years later.

On all the podcasts that I have listened to, I just can't help but think Dave Emary is such a humble and genuine gentleman. Thanks for having him on the podcast.

@jamesgarrett8541

3 ай бұрын

I would agree with that

Semi Auto - the savage A17 is amazing and WORKS

@brianohren2672

6 ай бұрын

I have one also and love it.

@loganwgriffith

4 ай бұрын

Are you shooting just the CCI A17 ammo? How is reliability if shooting the regular fps ammo?

this was a darn good episode.

@hornady

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Just as a story, this is great!

😂 A Very Good Story and I Learned Some Things That I Didn't Know Before! It Is Also Good To Hear That You Are Working With Other Companies To Improve The Quality Of Our Products! 😃👍

The vibe is definitely different with Steve in there and I like it. It'd be fun to see more podcasts with him in there.

@hornady

11 ай бұрын

Heck yeah

I'm glad I found the channel. I love shooting 17 HMR in my bolt action Savage. As a chemical engineer I appreciate the effort that goes into development. I'm kinda the age of the Dad in the story and love reaching out a bit .

I LOOOOOVED this video as the .17 hits home for me. Bought into it DAY 1! And I loved the BOSS sitting there saying that Dave didn't fired for a lot of things!😂😂🤣🤣 Dave reminds me of, well, ME! Great info and great video!

Probably my favorite episode so far 👍

I got one of the Remington Model 5, in 17 HMR, and it will absolutely drive tacks, fantastic piece.

Love hearing the stories!

Max yards taken by me: 326 yards on a coyote and 345 on a Jackrabbit amazing cartridge thanks for giving us this cartridge.

Loved this discussion, Thankyou guys for what we ended up with, my favourite rifle, I had 223 but wasn’t able to enjoy it anymore because of big C, so I got an HMR made by CZ! I didn’t miss the 223 after that and I was back shooting vermin again! 😊

A really good friend of mine just loved the 17

Hoppefully you guys can fully cover the 22Hornett next...😊😊

@dustinrhodes1091

Жыл бұрын

Agree!!!!

Great episode 👏!! I own and love both the hmr and mach 2 ,the 17 wsm is really fun too !

I want to know why they don't make a 17 HMR pistol Kel-Tec or Ruger needs to come out with this forget about 22 Magnum

@georgekasza7295

8 ай бұрын

Ruger made a single six in 17hmr,never seen one but I've been looking for years.

Always nice to hear the boss's perspective, sure there are more of those stories to be told, and it is an education for customers as to what is involved in making ammo, new cartridges, and puts a human face to the business. A podcast with some of the other ammo mfgrs bosses would be an eye opener for a lot of people, none of you need be afraid of it. Sure they can tell lots of stories without giving away any deep dark corporate secrets, some of the needs, problems and solutions to problems within the industry, cooperative efforts can shed some light and put a face to these companies. Even just the stuff like a 5mil pc min order and what it takes to accomplish that, and then build the productin capability to the new demand, is something many folk do not comprehend.

Enjoyed watching. I was sold on 17hmr day one. My CZ 452 has seen lots of action. Would love to hear discussion on the 17WSM. My savage fluted barrel WSM is just as accurate as the HMR and has lots less wind drift and shoots flatter. Thank you

Cost of the 17 Mach2 was too much compare to the 22lr ammo.

@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649

10 ай бұрын

Maybe so but when I can headshoot a squirrel at 80 yards........I'll pay it.

Oh yah best part of my week!!!

Love your podcasts. Really like the stories and the accuracy😊

@hornady

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Thank yall for my favorite rimfire cartridge

I bought a .17 HMR during one of the first. 22 LR shortages/high demand. .22 wasn't on the shelf, but this .17 HMR was. And at the time, it was running about 17 cents per round. Not as cheap as .22LR, but way cheaper than .223 Remington. I love it, but if I would have known just how much .17 HMR (and. 22 WMR) was going to go up, I probably would have passed on it

I love my tikka t1x 17hmr and would not swap it for any cal. I use it for fox crows rabbit etc here in Scotland. Thank you guys very much for your excellent work at Hornady

@hornady

10 ай бұрын

Good to hear

I LOVE my 17 Mach 2 Marlin. I pray it never dries up!

17hmr was my favorite till I got a 17 hornet. Plz support it more. More and better brass. More factory loads. More projectiles. More firearms. Been waiting for a run of brass for years! Get norma making better brass or something! With inflation its so cheap and fun to shoot!

What's with the avoidance of mentioning the Savage A17 in the auto discussion? "... you're just never going to get there with the case design on a magnum case". Ron Spomer made a similar pointed omission about 2 years ago. Savage solved the problem with a marvelous rifle.

Well, I'm commenting as I go. When they got into the .17 HM2 they taked about how a semi auto doesn't work. Obviously the Savage A17 is out on market, but I guess since it was a collaboration between CCI and Savage they're not covering it. Sadly. I wish they would.

I have a Savage in Mach2 and love it! Guess I have had that rifle 12 or 13 years now.

I too love the l’il .17HMR. Have a Taurus Tracker 6” barrel revolver for it. Would someday like to get a bolt action for it. A semi-auto for it would be a blast. However the only thing I don’t like about it is the cost of this great l’il round! I’d hoped it would have come down as time went on but that has yet to happen. And I so t think it ever will.

I would expect Savage A17 drove the sales volumes . Semi automatic accurate and inexpensive. Love mine

Always wanted a 20cal rimfire. Best of both worlds between the 17hmr and 22wmr.

@Greyzonecompliant

Жыл бұрын

They should make a 20wsm from the 17wsm case 😁👍

@waynemayle865

Жыл бұрын

​@@Greyzonecompliant5mm remington

@thecastbulletkid

Жыл бұрын

@@waynemayle865 With modern powders and a 25-30gr tipped bullet. It would smoke!

@mercury8180

10 ай бұрын

Air gun manufactures tried the 20cal back in the 80s and it flopped. It had neither the speed and penetration of the .177 and it did not have the shock capability of the .22 it would be up against hmr and wmr but would not improve any of those i believe.

I LOVE THE 17 HMR.

I still have the original Savage 17 hmr bolt action from 2003, and recently got a Volquartsen VT2 (beauty is swap barrels between 17 hmr and 22 wmr). I think the recoil system of new S&W semiautomatic 22 WMR pistol (base on their M&P 5.7 x 28) could be converted to shoot the 17 HMR.

love my HMR savage heavy barrel best group at 100yd 5 rounds .331 on center. was Vmax 17 gr amazing combo

I love your channel, Erik Cortina is saying that more neck room might be better. He states he is chambering 5 to 6 thousands on the throat. What happens is the cartridge detonates, the neck opens to the size of the chamber, fire form, and that allows the bullet to go down the barrel without any influence from the neck of the brass. At least that's how I understand it. I don't think he is saying the bigger the better, but that there needs to be a little room for the neck of the brass to get out of the way and it will if there is 5 to 6 thousands space. Funny how there can be a room full of scientist/engineers and they all have different opinions on how to do something better or the best. Again, love the channel and keep the videos coming.

@ewathoughts8476

Жыл бұрын

You are confusing .005" to .006" at the chamber neck as at the throat. The throat is the portion after the case mouth. The cartridge does not detonate, the primer does. The detonation energy of the primer ignites the powder and the powder burns rapidly, but if all is well the propellant does not detonate. Clearance adjustment at the neck can affect the timing of bullet release as the pressure builds. If the case neck clearance is too tight (.001" to .003")the bullet will release, but the brass will drag unevenly against bullet causing uneven release. The freebore portion of the throat needs to be tight enough to align the bullet with the bore, but not so tight that a minor diameter tolerance of the bullet would cause an interference fit. About .0004" to .0006" is required to insure that modern manufactured bullets will be safe.

@williamsweet7511

Жыл бұрын

@@ewathoughts8476 thanks for the reply, sometimes I'm afraid to ask questions. Never know how people will respond. thanks again.

I love listening to engineers discuss things as I am one but I always find successful business owners have such foresight. I suspect Mr Hornady is right if the HM2 came first you'd have had zero success and the HMR might have been developed elsewhere and enjoyed little to no success as well as it takes a special time and circumstance for success to happen and it cant always happen elsewhere.

Love my 17HMR

Can you do a podcast on 17WSM?

It’s my fist year with the HM2, bought a new savage heavy barrel last December. Hasn’t failed yet, pigeons, striped gophers, squirrels and a raccoon at 120 yards, no problemo. Lucky enough to find ammo at old prices in some local shops, should be sitting good for a while

Need to hear about the 17 WSM please

I need a automatic 17 HMR

Oh yeah !

Got the 17HM2 in a Savage FV HB. Love at first squeeze😊

I regularly use my Marlin 17 VS I purchased in 2003 and it still shoots those 17 grain vmax bullets into tiny groups. Dozens of groundhogs have fallen to this rifle over the last 2 decades.

The .17 HMR is for squirrel or rabbit size game.It's good for shooting crows I guess. Basically very small varmints. With the right 20-25 grain bullet it might make a good very close range fox cartridge. I'm talking about calling them in right in your lap under 50 yds. It is an accurate cartridge as rimfires go. I've used a lot of Hornady products and will continue to. That being said most of these podcast episodes I watch are for laughs and to read the fan boy dumb comments. The17 HMR should be a very niche cartridge only used for varmints under 10 pounds. A .17 Hornet is actually under powered for anything bigger than a fox. That means the rimfire .17 HMR or .17 WSM are pretty actually very anemic compared to any traditional .17 center fire used in the past for varmints or predator hunting.

The 17 super mag that I have is the best

Steve seemed like he really wasn’t wanting to give Dave his flowers on creating the HMR, I don’t recall this I don’t recall that but in the end he had no choice but to salute his work. It’s like best friends being best friends 😂 Lo

Man oh man, you guys really hate prairie dogs! 😅 great show.

I’m so excited I finally found a .17 HMR IN AN AR PLATFORM SEMI AUTO. I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING. ALEXANDER MADE ONE BUT IT WAS EXPENSIVE BC MAKES ONE FOR $500. Excited to try it. What a sexy lil caliber Also Franklin makes one for a middle of the road price of $1,600 but it’s not 17 HMR ITS 17 WSM which the amm can be hard to find Anyways super excited bc I have a 17 HMR AND A 350 legend on the way I choose the 350 legend over the 450 bushmaster because I saw some ballistics testing and the 350 legend was pushing through 1/4 in steel easily but tve 450 bushmaster could not make it through 1/4 in steel. I’m guessing because of the projectile weight Is there really anything better than guns and the excitement of having a new gun on the way… I’ll wait lol 😂

@Robert-fs1pb

Ай бұрын

Valquartsen makes the 17 hmr, they did make the 17wsm but I don't know if they still do.Their based out of Iowa the company.Your favorite gun shop could order you one.Their semi- auto.

If the market ever settles down to allow, a 20 rimfire exploration might be interesting.

@GeographyNerd48

Жыл бұрын

Yep 20 hmr or something

@BrassJeep

Жыл бұрын

They already have a 5mm Remington rim fire magnum, which is a .204, and yes it is amazing.

@waynemayle865

Жыл бұрын

​@@BrassJeepmost of these guy's don't know what a 5mm is I grew up with one taken many ohio groundhogs hornady needs to make ammo for the 5mm but they won't because it would kill the 17hmr

I was playing cat and mouse with a red squirrel up a pine tree with my hmr and i would just get to see enough of him and he would dart around the tree. A friend told me he had great luck with his 22 cal airgun scope doing that just catching the top of their head so i put a 2-7 bsa air gun scope on my hmr and that thing is amazing at close range shots i can focus down to 11’ and still pull a 200 yard shot on a squirrel on a field edge. When i leave the range i almost always have an empty ammo box of 17 hmr no matter what. We have a competition at the end with our 17’s of shooting out the staples holding up our targets after we are done. They are just that accurate.

wish there were more .17 hmr pistols

@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649

10 ай бұрын

Hee,hee,hee....... got one. Savage Striker SS. Turned down $700.

@thefirstsalty3055

10 ай бұрын

@@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649 i mean, single shot bolties aren't what i meant by .17 hmr pistols

@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649

10 ай бұрын

@@thefirstsalty3055 oh, got ya'. Striker is a 7 shot repeater bolt.

After some study of the SAAMI and CIP cartridge and chamber prints, it appears the bullet is allowed to be up to .0005" larger than the freebore diameter. This is a small interference fit. Is part of the inherent accuracy achieved by using a slight swage to fit system, or is the drawings available on the SAAMI and CIP websites in error? I can see where seating the bullet in the case just so the ogive just touches the freebore start might have some factor in the accuracy. However, if the bullet was seated in the cartridge a bit farther out there could be the possibility of sticking a bullet in the freebore and if the shooter had to eject the round unfired, that could be a problem. I do not have any ammo available currently to check how far the bullet shank protrudes from the case mouth at the moment.

Love your podcasts, don't go overboard on comercials.

I still have the American Rifleman magazine with the.17 HMR on the cover!

Ruger bolt 17hmr 2015 convert 10-22 to 17m2 2018 nice

I love my HMR and have for the 20 years I've had it, but I would love to have that little 17 grain bullet for my 17 hornet if you would ever make them public.

I've been looking at 17s, mach 2, hmr and wsm trying to decide which one I want. The mach 2 initially sounds great because it's basically a super fast 22lr with better explosive results on squirrels, rabbits etc. Unfortunately trying to find ammo for it or the wsm is nearly impossible

@paulmitchell5324

6 ай бұрын

WSM all way

Should have done Mach 2 first love both have both

Would love to see one of these on 22-250

22 mag all the way, I've owned both

Best small game cartridge 🐰👍

@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649

10 ай бұрын

Not for eating what you shoot.

That long freebore sounds like what weatherby has been doing for years.

You didn't mention the A17 and A17hm2. Is it a sore subject?

Please make an accurate 25gr bullet for the 22 mag..

@adamellington4562

8 ай бұрын

Probably hard to do with the amount of barrel contact from such light .22 round.

@Aaron.13

8 ай бұрын

@@adamellington4562 How do the .17’s get away with it? Id be happy with the 30g vmax if they were more consistent and accurate..

Can't find any 17 hmr ammo north of the border and a box of 9mm is cheaper ?.

It's my cridder gidder. Now I want to go to the range.

I’d love Springfield to make their 2020 in 17.

👍👍

Why does the 17 hmr shoot loose groups until the barrel gets a few rounds through it. Every time i clean mine, the sub moa accuracy drops off for the 1st few rounds. Once I run a few through it, that SOB will punch center out of dimes at 100 yards all damn day!! Can someone please enlighten me on this 8 year mystery of this cartridge

@echosierra9990

7 ай бұрын

Your barrel gets seasoned by firing rounds through it. The bullets leave carbon and copper residue, smoothing out microscopic barrel imperfections, leading to better accuracy. When you thoroughly clean your barrel, you remove all of that, so you need to re-season it by firing a few rounds through it.

20 hmr be awesome

GIVE US .17HMR FMJ COPPER FOR US COMMIE CALIFORNIA

How about a podcast on the .375 Ruger?!

@hornady

11 ай бұрын

It's in the works!

We need a 6mm prc and 22 ARC

@DanielReyes-hz1qk

Жыл бұрын

Would the 6 PRC be hotter or milder than the 6 Creedmoor?

@MyLonewolf25

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielReyes-hz1qk hotter

@chrisfisher3900

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielReyes-hz1qk hotter. On high end could launch 110’s around 3400-3500

@heathadams1274

Жыл бұрын

​@@chrisfisher3900and 65/75 gr VMAXs about 4300

I have listened to this seven times now, still don’t trust boss man!

Ive got about 500rnds of hornady 17hmr. That i stopped shooting because of irratic shooting due to the case necks splitting. Has anyone else had this issue? If so. Does anyone know why this was happening? The new cci stuff doesn't split

@hornady

7 ай бұрын

Shoot us an email at tech@hornady.com

What happened to 17 223 ? I sold a Remington to a guy in AK. The only thing its kinda loud . I think the Mach2 is enough for me at 72 yr old .

Seth. Steve didn’t tell us what his #1 Cartridge would be.