Enphase vs Fronius - Part 2 | The Micro-Inverter Strikes Back | 2021

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The last video showing Fronius working as well as Enphase in the shade definitely caused some shockwaves in and out of the solar industry. Well, it doesn't end there... The testing continued and the camera started rolling to bring you part two of the Fronius vs Enphase Saga. If you've got shade on your roof and you're struggling to decide whether to go Enphase or not, be sure not to miss this latest video from Mark at MC Electrical.
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Featuring: Mark Cavanagh
Editing and FX: Elliot Moss
Enphase Review : www.mcelectrical.com.au/micro...

Пікірлер: 64

  • @yoniziv
    @yoniziv3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your great content. I have more than 15 years of experience in the industry and love seeing someone really explaining things and not just waving around with slogans

  • @Samsailor
    @Samsailor3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting as always! Thanks Mark, keep 'm coming!

  • @adamdavidson3046
    @adamdavidson30462 жыл бұрын

    You put a huge amount of effort into the testing scenarios here, it's much appreciated. Great work.

  • @peterstrous2092
    @peterstrous20922 жыл бұрын

    Mark, I really appreciate the efforts you go through to get a thorough understanding and then pass this on!

  • @mcelectrical

    @mcelectrical

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome Peter, Glad to help!

  • @justcruisin109
    @justcruisin1093 жыл бұрын

    In my case, the shade creeping up from the panel’s bottom from mid afternoon due to tall street trees made this video very relevant (complicated by the string being in parallel with another string). I had considered adding microinverters to this string (although a 10% gain would be unlikely to offset the cost I think). Thanks for the real world testing you are conducting. Cheers

  • @SmartEnergyLab
    @SmartEnergyLab3 жыл бұрын

    Nice balanced assessment, mixing in the theoretical with the emperical.

  • @HomeTeamEnergy
    @HomeTeamEnergy2 ай бұрын

    Great content!, thanks for sharing all of this. I'm looking forward to diving deeper into more of your stuff!

  • @mcelectrical

    @mcelectrical

    Ай бұрын

    Awesome, thanks for watching!

  • @VRVitaly
    @VRVitaly Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos super informative with no bs

  • @mcelectrical

    @mcelectrical

    11 ай бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @sblazely
    @sblazely3 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are fantastic.

  • @testrunaintit
    @testrunaintit2 жыл бұрын

    First things first: kudos for your down to earth research! ... for which I have an idea for another round of optimizer vs. string shot-out: what happens with "soft" shading (tree branch) which is all over some of the modules?

  • @md.shamimreza5064
    @md.shamimreza50642 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic videos

  • @jahidimran4209
    @jahidimran42092 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are fantastic

  • @nigelmorris7413
    @nigelmorris74133 жыл бұрын

    Nice follow up!

  • @colinframpton6118
    @colinframpton61183 жыл бұрын

    Great content

  • @tarequrerahman768
    @tarequrerahman7682 жыл бұрын

    thanks for your video

  • @domotica_solar
    @domotica_solar2 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations....really good video.We are going to test it for our youtube channel. Best Regards

  • @emonshariyar4155
    @emonshariyar41552 жыл бұрын

    Interesting videos

  • @solarkings4755
    @solarkings47553 жыл бұрын

    I truly believe an Enphase Energy system to be the Apple of the energy arena. My Enphase 20,000-Watt AC system has worked 99% since 2013 - true reliability! Can't wait for IQ8 PV. Great job, Mrk. Cheers :-)

  • @antondegroot6061

    @antondegroot6061

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hate apple because its all just marketing and looks. Apple provides less performance for money. It provides no compatibility. What it does provide is looks and a trendy image. Now, i agree that many people advocate for Enphase without much thought, simply wanting to believe its always the best, or worse, wanting their customers to believe that. But i wouldn't want to put Enphase down that much as to compare it with Apple.

  • @richardprice5978

    @richardprice5978

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antondegroot6061 historically apple phones and laptops 💻did have a place in the market as it was more endtery users focused and less buggy now is it the best no but you don't give a 250GTO 🐎 to a first year driving students 😉 as it's to easy to crash. as for my takeaway for PV systems it should have UPS functions as a propane fuel generator cannot do that and needs 2 min to got on with it

  • @08047870
    @080478702 жыл бұрын

    what if you have one or two pv panels completely in the shadow wil it bring the whole system down in a string inverter system.

  • @mdthun4358
    @mdthun43582 жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @jahidhassan3855
    @jahidhassan38552 жыл бұрын

    Also nice

  • @pep1704
    @pep17042 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I need english subtitles or transcription, in the fist video there was, but in this not, thanks

  • @philmarsh7723
    @philmarsh77232 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! The ideal would be to have panels constructed with integrated inverters, an inverter for each cell in the panel. Such inverters would be very small, on the order of a single-chip solution.

  • @JasperJanssen

    @JasperJanssen

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s basically impossible. Inverter technology to make 230V doesn’t scale down that way.

  • @philmarsh8185

    @philmarsh8185

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JasperJanssen why not? Do you design power supplies?

  • @aktarulislam8830
    @aktarulislam88302 жыл бұрын

    Vare good

  • @jacobheyward1983
    @jacobheyward19832 жыл бұрын

    Can you please run the exact scenario with solar edge?

  • @abel4776

    @abel4776

    2 жыл бұрын

    Solar Edge is not the most reliable and has have past customer service issues.

  • @nobody-xt3zg
    @nobody-xt3zg6 ай бұрын

    Would be better if there was output power in video. 2-8% of 800w or 8000w. There is difference.

  • @AbdurRahim-oh2lp
    @AbdurRahim-oh2lp2 жыл бұрын

    Good

  • @kamrankazi8398
    @kamrankazi83982 жыл бұрын

    good

  • @JamesTsividis
    @JamesTsividis Жыл бұрын

    Does it matter if you have the panels on either side of the roof (east and west) when you're installing a Fronius inverter?

  • @mcelectrical

    @mcelectrical

    Жыл бұрын

    You can have panels in 3 directions. Check out this blog.www.mcelectrical.com.au/solar-panel-design-north-east-west/

  • @jan5697
    @jan5697 Жыл бұрын

    Hello Mark, with a view to a future expansion of my installation (affected by the shadow of a chimney), could you explain to us if installing panels in parallel to manage shadows is an interesting solution? for example, 4+4 panels in parallel in the same mppt, 4 panels are affected by a shadow from a chimney while the other 4 panels have no shadow. Would it be more interesting to put microinverters or make the 4+4 parallel with Fronius? Thanks in advance

  • @mcelectrical

    @mcelectrical

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey Jan, this is a great question. In my tests, if you parallel Fronius and shade one of the parallel strings, Fronius performs ridiculously well. But, If that string was as short as 4 panels, then it would have issues because of lower string voltage when shaded. So if possible I’d go a string of 8. Almost always Fronius is as good as enphase, but maybe this is an enphase situation. I’d have to see the layout. Mark

  • @jan5697

    @jan5697

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mcelectrical I will try to send you a video with the design and simulation of the shadow to see what you think and what solution we can give it. Thanks mark

  • @tarakhossen6709
    @tarakhossen67092 жыл бұрын

    Niec

  • @leonsinko4328
    @leonsinko43286 ай бұрын

    Hi, wich optimizers go with fronius? Tigo or nothing?

  • @mcelectrical

    @mcelectrical

    6 ай бұрын

    Nothing. They are not needed with fronius, and, they are a useless company anyway. mcelectrical.com.au/tigo-optimiser-recall/

  • @juggasl
    @juggasl2 жыл бұрын

    From your video It sounds like the inverter can control how the bypass diod is working how can that be possible?

  • @Rooster-Creations

    @Rooster-Creations

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is done by the MPP-tracker. This MPPT will vary the load on the panels, causing the diodes to engage (low load => high current) or not engage, (higher load => lower current).

  • @josephkoning6259
    @josephkoning62593 жыл бұрын

    Who is installing panels next to the shade of an adjoining building so the shade is even across all panels like in you display. Usually trees are the issue, where it might block out the first four panels completely. Do the test on this an it will show Enphase is far superior. Yes Every system (String/Optimised) can handle a certain amount of shade, but in certain situations it Enphase or nothing

  • @bdbusslowmotion
    @bdbusslowmotion2 жыл бұрын

    Nc🥰

  • @dangerpro5123
    @dangerpro51232 жыл бұрын

    Ok

  • @ZisWile
    @ZisWile Жыл бұрын

    What is the point, the cost difference is more than 10% and will not payback at a cost effective rate.

  • @graw6257

    @graw6257

    Жыл бұрын

    Because there are plenty of additional advantages with Enphase Microinverters not highlighted in this presentation.

  • @mcelectrical

    @mcelectrical

    Жыл бұрын

    I think safety is advantage (but an oversold advantage)of Enphase until AFCI comes out. But what are the other advantages? In my mind it is the only realistic small advantage of Enphase.

  • @eurovisie2010

    @eurovisie2010

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mcelectrical So what you say, enphase is next to nothing in all cases... almost..

  • @TurreTuntematon

    @TurreTuntematon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mcelectricalSuperb quality and customer service is a major advantage for sure.

  • @AB-dw8vo
    @AB-dw8vo3 жыл бұрын

    According to shading you present solaredge would be actually better than both of those

  • @stevemcmechan6444

    @stevemcmechan6444

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@markcavanagh did you also try Tigo optimizers on the same setup with the same shading and any comment how they went for this same test if you did try it?

  • @stevemcmechan6444

    @stevemcmechan6444

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@markcavanagh cool thanks, wow that’s crazy (eg they may as well be empty boxes). I wonder if tigo will then come back and say they needed a software update or similar to make them perform better. But if that is the case then they should have never shipped from the factory if they didn’t do the job correctly right out of the box. Anyhow I look forward to your new video thanks again, and great animation graphics for showing the shading you really went the extra mile there for sure and it looks great. Only thing is your videos may become so famous you may end up having to give up your day job and go full time into videos haha 😆

  • @chefgav1

    @chefgav1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@markcavanagh Are we going to see a reply video as the backyard enthusiast comment deserves it

  • @graw6257

    @graw6257

    Жыл бұрын

    @@markcavanagh So can a Fronius inverter fail too?

  • @timmothyburke
    @timmothyburke Жыл бұрын

    This is weird. Doesn't make sense.

  • @mcelectrical

    @mcelectrical

    Жыл бұрын

    Which part doesn’t make sense? It is definitely different to the way we’ve been told it works

  • @Redemptioner1
    @Redemptioner1 Жыл бұрын

    Video is completely pointless without the evidence to support what you are saying but you didn't show any of this, or even the test setup , so this is a just garbage video giving us nothing but making us think this is jut an undisclosed advertisement...

  • @mcelectrical

    @mcelectrical

    Жыл бұрын

    Hmm, it wasn't meant to be a thesis. Pretty easy to test it for yourself.

  • @mdmirazislam4850
    @mdmirazislam48502 жыл бұрын

    Nice

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