Adding a comment for the purposes of The Algorithm... Almost two years since this was uploaded; just shy of 4k views, a paltry 95 likes -- and even two 'dislikes' (wait, what?). Not all growth is bad: one thing that *must* grow faster is the message that *Enough is Enough!*

Absolutely informative! Thank you for sharing.

KUDOS! Concise, & smack dab on the mark. Everyone should spread this piece far and wide. Thanks to the group who created it, & Happy Trails

Love of God = Love of Man. This is the path of virtue. Without virtue and virtuous leaders and society the “system” is irrelevant.

(un)employment: The increase in productivity is an effect of innovation, which is directly linked to the availability of energy to our civilization. Our society and its innovations are fully dependent for this on fossil fuels however. Just manual labour would't have gotten us very far (as there is evidence before the Industrial revolution). Now we're approaching resource depletion (or at least the one with acceptable EROI) and we're being forced to turn to renewable sources, but those energy sources are much less energy dense and require way more infrastructure to extract that energy, which if it would be built with the energy we get from renewables, will take ages (not to mention the resource depletion and pollution this geberates as well). It's therefor probable that we will have to do with much less energy we "recovered" from the sun over the past 2 centuries. In that sense, to get things done in the future (run an economy), it can be expected that humans will once again need to do more work for relative less output (as it has been before fossil fuels were extrated). So how can a Steady State Economy work with people doing less work?

@NS-pj8dr

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By more equally distributing economic rewards such as income and social services. All wealth currently tied up in 0.1% of the population could be redistributed, making for higher incomes, OR, a reduced working week. So if we did this today we could potentially work MUCH less. If you are correct and in the future more labor will be required to do the same amount of work, well then we'll see less benefits. I'd sure as hell hope that incomes are evenly distributed in such a scenario, otherwise we'll have feudalism

great video as a CASSE NSW Inc member we embrace the message this video proclaims and the positive future and positive actions it describes as we transform our western market economies into sustainable steady state economies,

This is a re-post of the original Enough Is Enough film by Tom Bliss (which is unfortunately no longer available on CASSE's KZread channel).

@cristinasamaniego5475

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Dear @DrDanONeill could you add some observartions to this after the pandemic? now when the new generations have even more dependancy on the technology and consumerism?

Thank you so much for this absolutely minimal change suggestions !

Thanks a lot for the great film

great video, I have learned more from it.

Lets do it!

Very good video - how we can make all of this happen? Elect Greens to power?

I promote your works on fb but unfortunately they have reduced my circulation and no one ever sees them.

Let me know when these good folks connect the dots: human overpopulation---climate collapse---contraception---degrowth. Stress R Us

okay so basically their argument is just: (1) put the money supply under direct democratic control (2) somehow only 'green energy'/similar projects receive increases to money supply?? (3) economy stops growing because money supply is growing slower?? (4) ??? (5) everything is better did I understand?

The core problem here? The film does not address what is sustainable except tangentially by saying we should have a steady-state economy. The problem with that? Elon Musk (I am not a fan) started the creation of his battery not by looking at existing batteries, but by asking, what is a battery? This is First Principles/First Order thinking. What this film, and all economics thinkers, have failed to do is ask, "What is an economy?" and, more importantly, "Do we need the concept of an economy?" The answer to the first is exchanges between people. The answer to the second is "no." An "economy" that is needs-based has one reason for everything we do in terms of exchanging things: Meeting needs. Economic theory is a pile of nonsense philosophy that arose from a sick society 10k years removed from the principles, patterns, functions and rhythms of Nature. Intact indigenous societies do not worry about economics. They have no concept of it. They meet needs. They do address fairness, but that is bounded by the ecosystem services every member of the community, and members of the wider network of communities, understands deeply and almost instinctively. Economics limits our ability to achieve a regenerative system. Its sole usefulness at this point is as a way to dialogue about the transition from where we are to a regenerative future.

@JohnnyBelgium

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The Tesla battery is basically a laptop battery and is created by Panasonic. Elon Musk is a grifter. Capitalism consists of various growth schemes like banking, the stockmarket, pension system and so on.... Here is what we should do: 1. Don't have children 2. Eat a vegan diet 3. Don't own or lease a car

Ya...Americans and Brits and Eouropeans should start reducing consumption. I have no doubt ab that. We Russian ppl are here to help them. Its time to develope African and Central Asian societies. Era where some countries litarally do nothing but printing colored papers and "buying" energy and labour dense products from China and Russia are comming to its end. Globalisation is officially over.