[ENG CC] Civic Type R EK9 B16B vs. Pulsar VZ-R N1 SR16VE Maze 1998

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1.6l Class Battle. Honda Civic Type R EK9 B16B 185HP (Hattori Naoki) vs. Nissan Pulsar VZ-R N1 SR16VE 200HP (Nakaya Akihiko) at Maze 1998.

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  • @miroshi
    @miroshi6 жыл бұрын

    Hondash - the ultimate tool to monitor your Honda www.hondash.net facebook.com/hondashapp/

  • @punjin3702
    @punjin37025 жыл бұрын

    実際この当時以前からカタログスペックでは上回るパルサーもミラージュもシビックの敵じゃなかったからな

  • @dark1nes09
    @dark1nes099 жыл бұрын

    The main problem with VZR N1's, is that they are a racing engine inside a street chassis. The Type R Chassis are alot more suited to actual racing, better suspension setup, less weight, better gear raitios, and better lsd. Is not a suprise that the VZR's didnt sell well back in the day, considering they cost about $5000 more than a Civic Type R. Now don't get me wrong... I do love VZR's, have one myself. but it just isnt set up as good as the Civics. Great for Crusining, dropping to second and clutch kicking into NEOVVL. Will put a smile on anyones face.

  • @AR-rk9nn

    @AR-rk9nn

    9 жыл бұрын

    You're correct in everyway accept for the pulsar has a viscous LSD, which offers more traction than the Helical LSD

  • @JohanSalvattore

    @JohanSalvattore

    9 жыл бұрын

    Alex Rorrison They said the opposite in the video?

  • @dark1nes09

    @dark1nes09

    9 жыл бұрын

    Johnny Salvattore it indeed does.

  • @MaimunR

    @MaimunR

    9 жыл бұрын

    Kieran Wyatt You could be onto something here dude. I personally think a big of it is down to the actual suspension layouts the two cars have. The Pulsar has MacPherson Strut on the and beam axle on the rear while the Civic has double wishbone all round; which might give the car an edge in handling and grip due to camber gain. The Pulsar suspension setup front and rear however would have been cheaper to manufacture but there are less parts to wear out and go wrong.

  • @spidey0123

    @spidey0123

    9 жыл бұрын

    Actually they did sell good bro. All N1 pulsars gone in a day or a few days I think. BUT! Since they are limited in production unlike the type R which is a mass produced one it wasn't as accessible and popular. I liked the SR20VE more though, especially on a B13 chasis! ;) hehe.

  • @Psydrre
    @Psydrre9 жыл бұрын

    You are the best, Mr Miroshi! Seeing new videos from you in my inbox is always a joy. Thank you so much!!!

  • @siraff4461
    @siraff44615 жыл бұрын

    The problem here isn't power or weight or suspension but thrust at the wheels over speed. Honda understood this and designed the typeR to give it's best acceleration over the rpm in gear - meaning when you change you're back into power. The VZR made more peak power but far less all the way upto it so coming off corners or after a gear change it's got nowhere near the wheel thrust. That means it's then playing catch up and by the time it starts to catch up it's gear change time - when the civic can put more thrust to the wheels again and so on. This is also why a lot of mildly tuned honda's make big power figures but don't go much faster than stock.

  • @anthonyleos6849
    @anthonyleos68499 жыл бұрын

    Great videos ... brotha keep them coming . The videos inspire me to keep building faster and faster honda engine's thanks again keep the honda scene alive. ......

  • @zenkiev4486
    @zenkiev44869 жыл бұрын

    As a honda owner before, I had a chance to play with those "double vtec" Nissans with SR20VE, and wow their quick too! Especially compared to other variable timing from Japan like mitsu's mivec, or toyota vvti. Vtec and NeoVVL are the best in that category, simple.

  • @justintowers8230

    @justintowers8230

    8 жыл бұрын

    bro, altezza motor

  • @K0Y0I_sis

    @K0Y0I_sis

    6 жыл бұрын

    Beams is in the 2000cc class.You would need to rival it to K20A1 then.

  • @ejaokay

    @ejaokay

    6 жыл бұрын

    Zenki Ev VVTI-L in Toyota’s 2zz-ge is a pretty crazy system too. The gearing in the transmissions used is also really good. It’s a shame Toyota didn’t put it in more cars. Only the Celica GTS, Matrix XRS and Corolla XRS got it. Fun engine.

  • @jordanprice9285

    @jordanprice9285

    5 жыл бұрын

    I feel like for Mivec, it's better utilized and developed in V6 engines than the Inline 4 engines as I usually see guys with Mivec powered 4G63/4G69 Evo 9's that usually disable/disconnect it when they have higher power levels after they build them!

  • @PressurenFlames
    @PressurenFlames9 жыл бұрын

    Thank you again! :) Always a joy.

  • @16bmidniterfoxo
    @16bmidniterfoxo9 жыл бұрын

    Another great job, thanks for the videos!

  • @KootBear
    @KootBear7 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much for ths video and the subtitles! if I could I would give this video 10 likes

  • @ex353
    @ex3535 жыл бұрын

    X攻撃の時のシビックRの動きカッコよ。

  • @saracen7774
    @saracen77748 жыл бұрын

    nissan messed up on the handling on the pulsar. the engine was a group n race engine 200bhp....the civic was designed for track use with welded seams etc.u cant beat it on track.

  • @SteamRebornWatch
    @SteamRebornWatch8 жыл бұрын

    I love how the pulsar wasn't disqualified or something they just had a laugh and rolled with it, it was just like a fun little curveball, an extra challenge.

  • @deriwhiteswift
    @deriwhiteswift9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro! Nice video

  • @Bertington1
    @Bertington19 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting how the driver states that he 'doesn't believe the catalogue figure' which compares with what VZ-R N1 owners have said about not being able to achieve the claimed 200ps on the rolling road. Anyway a great video and thanks for sharing, i'd be happy to own either of these cars!

  • @justintowers8230

    @justintowers8230

    8 жыл бұрын

    because it lost at the take off. he mentioned it not having traction, but peak torque is at top of power band.

  • @user-wp6xu9po7r
    @user-wp6xu9po7r6 жыл бұрын

    中谷さんの全然敵いませんw

  • @B70Valkyrie
    @B70Valkyrie9 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Seen this one before but the great English subs make it a hundred times better. Any chance you could do a few more Pulsar/SR16VE/SR20VE videos? TE-V Primera vs Torneo or GTIR/GTI Pulsar?

  • @miroshi

    @miroshi

    9 жыл бұрын

    B70Valkyrie Only if I find them racing against a Honda.

  • @Seattle808

    @Seattle808

    9 жыл бұрын

    ***** HELL YEAH!

  • @user-us3fm2xm6y
    @user-us3fm2xm6y5 жыл бұрын

    Настоящие автомобили которые дарят эмоции а не как сейчас выкидыши маркетинга

  • @maximus9401
    @maximus94019 жыл бұрын

    Holy balls. 197 horsepower from a 1.6?! That's just madness. Where has all this wonderful engine performance gone? Now only a few naturally aspirated supercar engines are doing more than 100 horsepower per liter. This 1.6 has 123 hp/liter. Amazing. Meanwhile, Mazda can only squeeze out 155 horsepower out of a modern 2.0 liter high-compression engine. So sad.

  • @xBanditKeithx

    @xBanditKeithx

    9 жыл бұрын

    Alot of it has to do with the emissions here in the states. Japan still cranks these awesome n/a motors out on occasion.

  • @bogdan135

    @bogdan135

    9 жыл бұрын

    maximus9401 The thing is, Mazda's 2 liter is a better engine to drive around town with its good torque curve to push 3000 lbs Mazda3 body and gets decent fuel economy as well. Which is what average customer wants. Enthusiast market is really small, and Nissan was likely losing money from making a specialized beast engine and low volume car. Basically, it has more to do with economics/business/demand than plain inability to manufacture tiny high revving engines.

  • @265justy

    @265justy

    9 жыл бұрын

    maximus9401 And a Mazda RX-8 pushes out 231 HP from a Rotary that has 1.3L capacity ... Mazda never produced a high revving 1.6L in this era.. It was Rotarys ,V6s & Turbos with Mazda ..end off.. & their cars were & still a also ALOT nicer looking and still ARE than any of the competition from Japan. And terms of not hatchbacks from Japan..Mazda had the Rally breed 323/Famila GTR & GTX which would spank the shit outa both the EK9 Type R & the VZR..

  • @SimplySteel

    @SimplySteel

    8 жыл бұрын

    +265justy And it has worse gas mileage than an V6 Nissan 3.5 litre engine while making less power. The RX8 is a dog!

  • @265justy

    @265justy

    8 жыл бұрын

    Agree . I was never a fan of the RX8 myself . I found it abig step back from the FD RX7 , I would not buy one .. I would take the 3 or 6 MPS any day over it ..

  • @Kouta.K.
    @Kouta.K.4 жыл бұрын

    そもそも200馬力出ててないんじゃないの? 170がいいとこだろう。

  • @dimaadj377
    @dimaadj377 Жыл бұрын

    Эти автомобили хоть и выглядят одинаково но абсолютно разные и под разные задачи и оба одинаково хороши👍👍👍

  • @nezerac
    @nezerac8 жыл бұрын

    This was awesome. Do they ever start breaking down EXACTLY where the nissan begins to lose it's power advantage. The Civic seemed so well composed on that track it was like watching an old 80's buick race against a corvette. lol

  • @Brickhazard
    @Brickhazard9 жыл бұрын

    Where is the video of the Version II of the Nissan Pulsar VZR N1? That one totally wipes the floor of the EK9.

  • @alexbeau348

    @alexbeau348

    7 жыл бұрын

    watch?v=NgpBGxA-hW8

  • @supersouljah5326
    @supersouljah53264 ай бұрын

    Stock honda civic type r ek chassis too good, b16b 185HP taking on nismo tuned pulsar VZ-R N1 SR16VE 197HP both cars are very good

  • @user-bn3il2dk1r
    @user-bn3il2dk1r5 жыл бұрын

    中谷さん真面目な人って印象だったから、土屋さんみたいなインチキやるとは思わんかったw

  • @tarot4193

    @tarot4193

    5 жыл бұрын

    kanini naritai あのまま差が開いたらどっちも単独走行になってしまい両者の違いが直接比較できないからしょうがないかな。

  • @chaikagome9725

    @chaikagome9725

    3 жыл бұрын

    謳い文句と違うから、ちょっとキレ気味w

  • @user-rc5si4th6e
    @user-rc5si4th6e5 жыл бұрын

    パルサーってどちらかというとダート向きだからサーキットでは厳しそう! ロールもぐらんぐらんしてるし、足回り変えないとキツイかな💦

  • @shombiedixon7017
    @shombiedixon70176 жыл бұрын

    on a Rainy day, the Pular VZ-R takes the lead. On a beautiful sunny day...Its Civic Type-R

  • @TheBb6prelude

    @TheBb6prelude

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shombie Dixon no

  • @dekoldrick
    @dekoldrick7 жыл бұрын

    Pulsar cheated and still had the Civic on his ass XD

  • @SteliosHadjiantonis
    @SteliosHadjiantonis9 жыл бұрын

    Were the two cars have the stock suspension?

  • @vtecnegro85

    @vtecnegro85

    8 жыл бұрын

    yep

  • @ginnotorrestorres3301

    @ginnotorrestorres3301

    8 жыл бұрын

    The sling comes with a suspension for more competition

  • @Metin2PLTYTANIS
    @Metin2PLTYTANIS9 жыл бұрын

    2:05 FAIL ...

  • @jeffreywong5112
    @jeffreywong51122 жыл бұрын

    I'm sad Nissan discontinued the vz series

  • @user-vx3dq1mq5l
    @user-vx3dq1mq5l5 жыл бұрын

    なんかこのカタログ数値、ekはネットでパルサーはグロスの数値ってくらいek速いな笑

  • @tarot4193

    @tarot4193

    5 жыл бұрын

    とんかつ 昔からホンダはカタログ数値通りの馬力があると評判だったから、パルサーがカタログより低いんだろうな。 それだけではなく車体、足回りもかなり差がありそうだけど。

  • @phongnguyen007
    @phongnguyen0074 жыл бұрын

    Well, SR16VE is actually great engine...but the sole engine is not enough.

  • @aulianiloperbowo8135
    @aulianiloperbowo8135 Жыл бұрын

    serena c24 D-1098-EJ vs crv rd1 D-1734-ZT

  • @denisszr1522
    @denisszr15226 жыл бұрын

    Nissan tried to match the B16. Failed. Mitsubishi tried this. Failed. Toyota is the only one who managed to put a fight with the 4AGE engine. Yet I don't think the AE111 will catch up with the Type R :)

  • @LAXCRUIZIN

    @LAXCRUIZIN

    6 жыл бұрын

    you put a SR16VE in the civic it will be faster simple.

  • @orangeman9237

    @orangeman9237

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yep all of those failed except the toyota's 4AGE Engine

  • @orangeman9237

    @orangeman9237

    6 жыл бұрын

    But Ill take both the toyota and the honda any day

  • @fucklove23_73

    @fucklove23_73

    4 жыл бұрын

    Put a K24 and it'll be even faster

  • @addygmail1332
    @addygmail13327 жыл бұрын

    honda is a king

  • @wanadamakmal1423

    @wanadamakmal1423

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes true,the KING ricer

  • @amixreckless6118

    @amixreckless6118

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wan Akmal Says the 10 yo kiddo.

  • @victorpla29
    @victorpla299 жыл бұрын

    I think it has to do with Civic 4.7 :1 Final Drive ratio and shorter 2, 3, 4 gears

  • @bogdan135

    @bogdan135

    9 жыл бұрын

    CTR had 4.4 FD

  • @skarpheinnsmundsson9741

    @skarpheinnsmundsson9741

    9 жыл бұрын

    only the itr has the 4.785:1 final drive and shorter gears, the ek9 ctr only has the same final and ratios as the ek4 but has an LSD. which is a total shame cause the smaller displacement ctr could have been much "better" so equipped.

  • @doctorhelicopter

    @doctorhelicopter

    9 жыл бұрын

    Victor Pla Nein. Has to do with the Civic sounding like a Fireblade though:)

  • @TheBb6prelude

    @TheBb6prelude

    4 жыл бұрын

    Victor Pla civic has 4.4

  • @bluenoah672
    @bluenoah6725 жыл бұрын

    中谷さん・・・マンセルみたいなことしやがって・・・www

  • @telkor-tzm50r
    @telkor-tzm50r5 ай бұрын

    確かにシビックとの性能差はデカいんだけど… パルサー VZ-R、悪くない車なんよね。 足回りと(ノーマルの)LSDの性能差がデカいから余計に差があるように映ってるけど、ボディ剛性もあるし、悪くない部分もあるんですよ…

  • @azmiemohamad8876
    @azmiemohamad88768 жыл бұрын

    im still love vvl kick..

  • @alexbeau348
    @alexbeau3489 жыл бұрын

    The worst technical part jf VZ-R is not rear axle - its akihiko

  • @36CGMA
    @36CGMA9 ай бұрын

    Close ratio vs street ratio

  • @mauricioalfredo83
    @mauricioalfredo836 жыл бұрын

    tha N15 pulsar rear suspension SUCKS

  • @syednazeer5122
    @syednazeer51223 жыл бұрын

    I would still take pulser on civic any time

  • @user-ic1he2pk9q
    @user-ic1he2pk9q3 жыл бұрын

    シビック速すぎ!

  • @saracen7774
    @saracen77747 жыл бұрын

    stock vs stock nissan gets bitch slapped..lolol.

  • @tack_supersonic
    @tack_supersonic7 жыл бұрын

    ぜんぜんかないませ〜ん(´・ω・`)

  • @ppllooiikkmm

    @ppllooiikkmm

    6 жыл бұрын

    クラッチ蹴っ飛ばしても、、ぜんぜんかないませんっ笑

  • @indoorReport_RI45

    @indoorReport_RI45

    5 жыл бұрын

    2:00 「160km/hしか出ないんだもの、敵うわけないよ」 →インチキをかますwww

  • @user-td6gt6pb6e

    @user-td6gt6pb6e

    4 жыл бұрын

    からのシケインカットwww

  • @abangmotorsports3865
    @abangmotorsports38654 жыл бұрын

    Civic just too fast

  • @NASCAR511
    @NASCAR5119 жыл бұрын

    2:05 WTF!

  • @4storyboss

    @4storyboss

    5 жыл бұрын

    alonso: what is pulsar doing? HE CUT THE CHICKEN!

  • @eeuurriikkaa77
    @eeuurriikkaa777 жыл бұрын

    final gear bad

  • @user-cq9iy8bt1p
    @user-cq9iy8bt1p4 жыл бұрын

    日産パルサー、90年代にWRCに出たりダートラに出ていた

  • @user-vv8sn2iq7v
    @user-vv8sn2iq7v4 жыл бұрын

    テンロク最強はsr16だって言ってる人にこれ見せたい

  • @kpocalypss3596
    @kpocalypss35962 ай бұрын

    Love the VZR but Nissan cheaped out on the transmission.

  • @skyactiv-d2214
    @skyactiv-d221423 күн бұрын

    とにかく勝ちたい中谷さん🤣

  • @16superutchi38
    @16superutchi38 Жыл бұрын

    ノートの先祖。

  • @user-ly6wr5zo5l
    @user-ly6wr5zo5l4 жыл бұрын

    中谷さんwwww

  • @ppllooiikkmm
    @ppllooiikkmm6 жыл бұрын

    中谷パルサー苦戦っ!

  • @UCGhy34YYL0R3LirWIvhvxng
    @UCGhy34YYL0R3LirWIvhvxng8 жыл бұрын

    2:00 lol

  • @telshin0519
    @telshin05196 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/g56Yqq6MYM27gZc.html スプーンコンプリートエンジンのEK9です。

  • @KUzZ911
    @KUzZ9115 жыл бұрын

    Civic was a type R Turbo sports version. Pulsar was standard family car which happened to have a slightly more bhp without turbo charged. Pulsar GTIR is in the same league but far far superior.

  • @GTRWelsh

    @GTRWelsh

    4 жыл бұрын

    that civic isn't turbo

  • @vincevegacustoms8860
    @vincevegacustoms88608 жыл бұрын

    to bad the nissan had to cheat to win haha ;)

  • @ryanvtec3885
    @ryanvtec38854 жыл бұрын

    185 vs 200hp and honda won with less power

  • @cougaridis1708

    @cougaridis1708

    3 жыл бұрын

    watch n1 version 2 and after talk

  • @David.Z.

    @David.Z.

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cougaridis1708 look spoon vs pulsar and after talk

  • @cougaridis1708

    @cougaridis1708

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@David.Z. versio2 it's faster funny boy

  • @chaikagome9725
    @chaikagome97253 жыл бұрын

    まあ、ホンダと日産の差だわ。

  • @ferniem95
    @ferniem956 жыл бұрын

    Fuck nissan, had to cut in order to win

  • @canyonkiller4431
    @canyonkiller44317 жыл бұрын

    damn that Nissan is ugly.. it looks like a mini mini van or a short bus lol

  • @ArtVandelayOfficial

    @ArtVandelayOfficial

    7 жыл бұрын

    CANYON KILLER have you seen ep3

  • @maimunrahman9635

    @maimunrahman9635

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ArtVandelayOfficial I've had an N15 chassis Nissan and now have an EP3 🤣

  • @alstound
    @alstound2 жыл бұрын

    VZR is garbage.

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