Ending the Matt Mercer Effect

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  • @TandemTuba
    @TandemTuba4 жыл бұрын

    What bums me out the most is Matt would be so supportive of anyone trying to be a DM, he's seriously such a sweetheart. He would be the first person to tell players not to compare anyone to him, whose JOB is to DM.

  • @Jaijaibinkx

    @Jaijaibinkx

    4 жыл бұрын

    But a portion of the fan base doesn't think like that which is a bummer.

  • @multiumbreon7

    @multiumbreon7

    4 жыл бұрын

    You know this comment is true because he DID do just that. In the Reddit thread that popularized the term "Matt Mercer effect" Matt replied with a heartfelt message apologizing to the people who had to put up with players with high expectations and telling players to not compare their DM, their party or themselves to the cast, and basically just have fun however you want/can.

  • @Gauldame

    @Gauldame

    4 жыл бұрын

    He is supportive, he regularly asks r\DnD subreddits to stop, he has posted on twitter and r\critrole asking players to stop and has regularly supported dms who dm vastly different from him. Shit heels just don't listen.

  • @Kurgosh1

    @Kurgosh1

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's sort of like wondering why your pick-up basketball games at the YMCA aren't as good as the NBA games you watch on TV. It's because you're a 53 year old, 5'8" accountant, Joe, and so are all your friends. You're not a professional athlete.

  • @jetvulcan2020

    @jetvulcan2020

    4 жыл бұрын

    he even regualry talks about how long he has been DMing for and that he was terrible when he started. the whole cast and crew of Critical Role is so supportive of people getting into d&d. its one of their favorite things to learn at pannels is how many people started playing because of the the show. Its sad this professional D&D effect has been linked to them

  • @adwitatherealadwita
    @adwitatherealadwita4 жыл бұрын

    Matt Effect? Dude I love that game!

  • @pv1612

    @pv1612

    4 жыл бұрын

    That third game where Sam Rigel comes out of nowhere and suddenly makes you choose turned me off bro

  • @DavvyChappy

    @DavvyChappy

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are the fan I want.

  • @JonnyStarwind

    @JonnyStarwind

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, you're thinking of Merc Effect. (pronounced Merse)

  • @PureGoldNeverCorrodes

    @PureGoldNeverCorrodes

    4 жыл бұрын

    JonnyStarwind Mercer Fect?

  • @Anxious69

    @Anxious69

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mercer Fett? Like the bounty hunter?

  • @samuteel
    @samuteel4 жыл бұрын

    I think the worst thing is that Matt Mercer hates the Matt Mercer Effect. He’s said how sad it makes him that people lose motivation to DM because they’re compared to him.

  • @HyenaFox

    @HyenaFox

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah exactly. One of the core aspects about Critical Role (probably a part of what makes it so popular) is that they've tried as hard as they could to maintain that this is just a game between a group of friends. The cast's Between the Sheets interviews reveal this, from the very start of the stream, everyone in the cast was extremely careful about this. Everyone almost instantly rejected the idea of streaming the game partly because of this. And they've commented on it throughout the time they've been streaming. To them, this is just their home D&D game where they get together as friends, not necessarily as colleagues, and just play some D&D for 3-5 hours. Now, they're actors, and they all clearly want to play with the roleplaying aspect of D&D a lot in their games, which let's them lend their previous acting talents to the game, which of course, makes their games look flashy. And of course, Matthew Mercer is not only a talented actor but also an incredibly talented storyteller and writer, and he frequently shows his command over the D&D rulesets and stuff which he has built up through decades of experience (in his Between the Sheets interview, he said that he began playing D&D in high school and DMed for friends, and D&D has been a passion for him ever since, meaning he has like 25 years of experience with this game under his belt. You know how there are those people who've played like CSGO or League of Legends for like 7,000 hours and have internalized most situations present in any given match in the game as instinctual muscle memory? Those people have played League of Legends or CSGO for like 5-8 years at most (given the time those games came out). Imagine 25 years). But these talents also come from their careers, meaning they've all intentionally honed them. Despite everyone making the game look flashy, there shouldn't be any reason to idolize THEIR experience of the game, because it's mostly unique. Unless you're able to come up with a D&D party of 7 actors and writers, your experience won't be the same.

  • @leptonGM

    @leptonGM

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@HyenaFox Double parentheses? You my friend are a bold man. Go with God.

  • @elgatochurro

    @elgatochurro

    4 жыл бұрын

    Any player demanding a dm to be someone else should go see about playing at that table host's by said someone else... Its retarded to demand X be Y when its obviously not, and extremely rude... if i had a player do this I'd demand they be a near perfect player that impresses me every few minutes of the game... why not if were gonna be about demanding others to be people they're not.

  • @Daredhnu

    @Daredhnu

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@elgatochurro i've had a couple players, well ex-players now, come to my table and constantly berate other people about not playing the game right, specifically because we didn't play enough like they do on critical role, we don't do voices etc. i told those people they could either stop comparing our game to critical role or they could leave, i'm fine with getting fair criticism from my players, but unreasonable complaints because i can't do voices like a professional voice actor and harrasment of other players i will not accept.

  • @elgatochurro

    @elgatochurro

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Daredhnu those people are stupid... doing a voice 24/7 isnt playing a character "right"... Again if they wanna play so badly with CR cast they should go out and find CR and ask to play with them... Not every random dnd player is gonna be a great roleplayer or even have great voices/accents that shit takes a lot of practice... In my table i feel ive been wanting epic like stories but my players mostly want a magical world and dungeons to explore and clear... so ive decided to set my expectations down on their end of the storytelling but still i asked then to roleplay more, get into the moment more so it doesn't feel like a bland video game

  • @damianmagecraft2402
    @damianmagecraft24024 жыл бұрын

    Just experienced this today... CR fan and new player: "You are no Matt Mercer" And before I could formulate a response one of my other players (also brought to my table by CR) quipped ... "And you are no Talison Jaffe; so sit down shut up and just enjoy the experience. Cause in his own way Damian is far more devious." I legit teared up. Best compliment I could have gotten.

  • @aisekrem3216

    @aisekrem3216

    4 жыл бұрын

    I love this so much oh my god

  • @DDtankxD

    @DDtankxD

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was so wholesome!!! Hope you´re enjoying your sessions, mate

  • @impurebloodheld7310

    @impurebloodheld7310

    2 жыл бұрын

    Power to you, i started as a crit fan turned DM and ive never got bored of DMing even when most of my players are bit slow in the uptake, barely remember last session, dont keep track of inventory or even the goal of the current quest they are on XD What i focus on is the look on their faces when a serious npc slips on a banana peel or the look of excitement they get when i flesh out a cat that is very similar to their inreal pet and they just have to have him (All planned cause they so readable). You focus on what excites the people you play with and you are always rewarded with compliments every game even when you felt like you ran a total fuckup.

  • @Xingmey

    @Xingmey

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah had some similar experience (forever DM here) they've seen some crit role and one day one player said - (paraphrasing): Don't try to become matt mercer, you are you and you are good at what you do. Just keep it up. We're having fun. that was just nice to hear :) and took a lot of pressure off of my shoulders

  • @samhandwich1326
    @samhandwich13264 жыл бұрын

    Imagine being so good at your job that people not being as awesome as you becomes a problem.

  • @DavvyChappy

    @DavvyChappy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yea man, I have to deal with it all the ti-oh wait you're not talking about me...

  • @cococordova6873

    @cococordova6873

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DavvyChappy 👌👌👌

  • @jgr7487

    @jgr7487

    4 жыл бұрын

    the problem is that Matt is DMing a show, while you or you DM is DMing a house game. they are different things that should be enjoyed in totally different ways.

  • @GuiSmith

    @GuiSmith

    4 жыл бұрын

    Davvy Chappy This is how we know you’re a bard main

  • @elbruces

    @elbruces

    4 жыл бұрын

    Matt Mercer and LeBron James.

  • @likelyapril
    @likelyapril4 жыл бұрын

    Davvy, you can’t just murder Matthew Mercer in his sleep at 4 am in the morning and call it Ending the Matt Mercer Effect.

  • @DavvyChappy

    @DavvyChappy

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s the only way to be sure.

  • @marcus4046

    @marcus4046

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DavvyChappy Sweet Chappy Sweet Chappy send your knowledge unto me for the ignorance of this dm must be abolished with funny quips and facts.

  • @emmah1408

    @emmah1408

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @demonheart13

    @demonheart13

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Jack of all Trades it is now

  • @nou8416

    @nou8416

    4 жыл бұрын

    But Matt doesn’t sleep

  • @jp3achtr33p6
    @jp3achtr33p64 жыл бұрын

    Not sure how O’Brien will feel if he finds out about you blatantly hitting on his husband in your video

  • @DavvyChappy

    @DavvyChappy

    4 жыл бұрын

    He can watch.

  • @Thunderscreamer

    @Thunderscreamer

    4 жыл бұрын

    Their relationship is about as open as Stonehenge, so methinks it wont be an issue!

  • @KHJohan

    @KHJohan

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DavvyChappy Sharing is caring, after all

  • @mattevans4377

    @mattevans4377

    4 жыл бұрын

    They could always have a threesome.......

  • @druid_zephyrus

    @druid_zephyrus

    4 жыл бұрын

    this made me question something important: Is my favorite DnDtuber, You!, DavvyChappy, married to Laura Bailey as well?

  • @emmybee5189
    @emmybee51894 жыл бұрын

    The Matt Mercer effect is equivalent to going to the your local high school basketball game and expecting to see the NBA

  • @prettycoolguy3206
    @prettycoolguy32064 жыл бұрын

    It's like watching the Olympics and then getting mad at your peers because they aren't gold medalists.

  • @lietz13

    @lietz13

    4 жыл бұрын

    Going to an elementary school play and complaining it's not Broadway.

  • @RocketDragons

    @RocketDragons

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lietz13 Nailed it. Everyone who succumbs to the Mercer effect is basically Cam from Modern Family.

  • @RoastedPheasant

    @RoastedPheasant

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its attitude present in every team game, especially League of Legends.

  • @mr.preston1632

    @mr.preston1632

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lietz13 Yeah it’s not, *it’s better*

  • @DemonMankeyMan
    @DemonMankeyMan4 жыл бұрын

    "your games will not be as good as critical roles. They'll be better" That is a line I would love to play by

  • @MrKenpachi28

    @MrKenpachi28

    4 жыл бұрын

    *chefs kiss* on that DC.

  • @sofialaya596

    @sofialaya596

    4 жыл бұрын

    I ended up loving the story I created with my friends and the moments I lived with them more than cr. it's true. and it's different, and it's great.

  • @Gaston-Melchiori

    @Gaston-Melchiori

    4 жыл бұрын

    i was just about to say that, the last past its all that matters.

  • @VinceValentine

    @VinceValentine

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrKenpachi28 Difficulty Check?

  • @d20tavernaz68

    @d20tavernaz68

    4 жыл бұрын

    A very true statement. Loved it.

  • @ForeverKite42
    @ForeverKite424 жыл бұрын

    Can we also bring up the cast of Critical Role played D&D together for almost three years before they started recording? So you have a group of people who have been playing together for so long, you can have those magical moments because EVERYONE KNOWS EACH OTHER! The greatest thing to take from Critical Role is the TRUST between story writers, AKA the DM and Players. They all have a solid understanding of each other, because they have been playing together for so long, and even when it seems they are going down a weird or troublesome narrative route, they are there with each other to help make sure it goes as well as possible. Side note: Not every player is going to like the campaign they join. I personally dislike Vox Machina (and yes i am reading all the books and looking forward to the show), and LOVE the Mighty Nien because I enjoy the more believable characters with gray morals who might wanna do the right thing yet some times that means doing it in a considerably evil manner.

  • @Noanatsuka

    @Noanatsuka

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed! They've been friends for such a LONG time and they were playing friggan pathfinder before 5e and plays QUITE some time BEFORE even that streamed. Best case scenario you'll be playing with your friends, but even then some folks will be hesitant. Worse case, you'll be playing with randos who, if you're like me, you'll be hoping won't judge you too harshly and thus ends up holding you back some.

  • @curtisholsinger6023

    @curtisholsinger6023

    4 жыл бұрын

    I DO! My wife and two of our friends. Problem is, they live in separate states now... but we still play every week or two. We've been doing that for... 4 years now? No, five! It IS a big freaking deal to hold onto a group that makes it through the first year (and an even bigger one to make it through even the first full campaign!!)

  • @BlueSun_

    @BlueSun_

    4 жыл бұрын

    You think children killing, elderly splitting, item stealing, prisoner crippling, newbie ganking, genocide contemplating Vox Machina are not Grey enough? /S

  • @ForeverKite42

    @ForeverKite42

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BlueSun_ Being gray has nothing to do with having a chaotic murderer moment. Also that was your issue?

  • @LupineShadowOmega

    @LupineShadowOmega

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BlueSun_ as someone who has been in the same group for about 10 years, contemplating genocide isn't grey enough after awhile. You haven't been a group if someone hasn't caused at least one apocalypse. Or like our last game...multiversal apocalypse.

  • @Groaker
    @Groaker4 жыл бұрын

    "A mass, shared hallucination brought on by huffing plastic dice." This is the default way i will be describing D&D to newcomers from now on.

  • @eddiespeight8103
    @eddiespeight81034 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit a Matt Mercer Effect video that doesn't come off as preachy and belittling but rather understanding and encouraging? I never thought I'd see the day.

  • @ShadowAraun

    @ShadowAraun

    4 жыл бұрын

    its funny, I never watch CR, and everyone in my group who does understood the difference from the start. First off there are different kind of games, some stories will be more engaging than others based on what you ask of your players before the start of the session, if you personalize the story to you characters backstories engagement will be higher, but if you are trying to tell a story where they are the characters engagement will be less and it is more demanding to keep them interested. that is just how it is.

  • @TheWobbinator1

    @TheWobbinator1

    3 жыл бұрын

    You mean when we don't get angry and try to gatekeep the thing we like and get mad at Critical Role for introducing new people to the hobby we can foster genuine understanding and growth? Wow, what a concept XD

  • @Thunderscreamer
    @Thunderscreamer4 жыл бұрын

    "Your games will not be as good a Critical Role's." Me Internally: "I think my games have been better." "They'll be better." *Heart Explodes.*

  • @NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself

    @NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself

    4 жыл бұрын

    ... _open weeping_

  • @ReaperOFblackghosts

    @ReaperOFblackghosts

    4 жыл бұрын

    Relate.. Our own investment is what carried weight betwen our characters and the adventure.

  • @cinco_de_la_tarde

    @cinco_de_la_tarde

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha I was kinda similar although I still like the term different than better. It's definitely like completely different things. As someone who likes sports (and particularly baseball), you don't see people at Minor League games complaining that the players aren't as good as the pro team. You know this is a different level of the sport. You know they are all trying their hardest and it's not the skill alone that is entertaining.

  • @kaleidoslug7777

    @kaleidoslug7777

    10 ай бұрын

    One-Hundred-Percent. I love CR, I've been there since Campaign 1, Matt was the core inspiration in making me start GMing and I think they're making nothing short of art with every episode, and I still think my home game is genuinely better than theirs. Like yes they have Percy and Fjord and Jester but do they wish-granting Baked Alaska and ruby red mirrors that make the real-life players cry? They do not!

  • @nucleargandhi2709
    @nucleargandhi27094 жыл бұрын

    "Your DM isn't going to be Matt Mercer" Hey look just because nobody on the cast knows me doesn't mean I can't be a guest player one day.

  • @dainslatton9877

    @dainslatton9877

    4 жыл бұрын

    I heard there's a golden guest star ticket hidden inside the wrapper of every ten thousandth critical crunch bar.

  • @microwave._.

    @microwave._.

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me: gets the golden ticket My older grandparent: cha cha real smooth

  • @KazumiKiguma

    @KazumiKiguma

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would not be surprised if that actually motivated someone to take up voice acting. People may call it dumb but hey, hope is hope, if it helps you get up and do something, then there ya go.

  • @Go1denOw1

    @Go1denOw1

    4 жыл бұрын

    *shamefully whispers* The real reason Im a voice actor....

  • @devinxxxxx

    @devinxxxxx

    4 жыл бұрын

    In the first season of the show they actually did bring on a critter as one of the guest players. Found that out yesterday on their wikia page. There's hope friend!

  • @SpookyGhostIsHere
    @SpookyGhostIsHere4 жыл бұрын

    Reverse problem: A DM that expected to be able to be like Matt and tried to force players into experiencing a story as meaningful as what they see in Critical Role. We were railroaded, the DM took control of our characters sometimes, said no or had the NPC’s directly tell our characters what to do and what not to do repeatedly and got pissed when we got to content they hadn’t prepared. Also, got pissed and started swearing after a bad guy was beaten in 3 rounds.

  • @mrmcawesome9746

    @mrmcawesome9746

    4 жыл бұрын

    "Expected to be able to be like Matt" "got pissed after a bad guy was beaten in 3 rounds" Hey, do you remember Matt's very awesome super-cool homebrew demon spider boss? Yeah, me neither, because Sam killed it in 1 round, and Matt didn't freak out about it.

  • @kaleidoslug7777

    @kaleidoslug7777

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mrmcawesome9746 That shit just *happens* sometimes. I was afraid to make my PCs fight this giant undead bird monster I made and its flock of paralizing zombies, but a couple very well thought-out spells made it so my players ended the fight in two rounds and lost a grand total of 7 HP

  • @asimpletrashgoblin8109

    @asimpletrashgoblin8109

    4 жыл бұрын

    “Well that’s 2 hours of research on how Control Water and Wall of Fire our the window.” “Sorry Matt..” “No! It was awesome!!”

  • @CappuccinoSquid

    @CappuccinoSquid

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mrmcawesome9746 *Spoilers* To be fair, he was bummed out when Lorenzo got killed, and openly admitted that he planned for him to get away implying that he was supposed to be the BBEG for the M9 for at least a few more encounters, but open disappointment aside he took it with grace and adjusted accordingly.

  • @rimurutempest4945

    @rimurutempest4945

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mr McAwesome which boss was this again? Was this from Vox or Nein?

  • @eugenehoitt3250
    @eugenehoitt32504 жыл бұрын

    Davy: I sometimes forget my patrons. Warlocks: wait, I can forget mine?!

  • @Mortablunt

    @Mortablunt

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pact of the Outsider patron: Which realm was I supplying that girl with powers in again? Guess it doesn't matter.

  • @AFLoneWolf

    @AFLoneWolf

    4 жыл бұрын

    They'll remind you.

  • @VinceValentine

    @VinceValentine

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mortablunt "Why do I keep hearing this nagging voice saying 'ELDRITCH BLASTS PLEASE'?"

  • @rabbidcreature9681
    @rabbidcreature96814 жыл бұрын

    A good way to fix the Matt Mercer Effect. Read or watch D&D Horror stories. That way you have a few low bars to help adjust your expectations accordingly. CR as the high bar and Horror Stories as your low bar.

  • @PipsQueen

    @PipsQueen

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's basically saying your DnD session can be infinitely bad or infinitely good. In other words, anything. Guess that's not bad advice after all

  • @athensia443

    @athensia443

    4 жыл бұрын

    I always think i'm a shit player, and causing issues, and am always worried i'll end up on one of those pages...

  • @Wesley_Youre_a_Rabbit

    @Wesley_Youre_a_Rabbit

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don’t even believe that it’s a matter of “high” or “low”. It’s horizontal not vertical. That’s what Matt was trying to get people to understand. His game isn’t “better” than anyone else’s, It’s different from everyone else’s , it’s HIS. Don’t view his DMing style as the “best” and subsequently try to mimic it. Find YOUR style, find YOUR game. Then you’ve reached a high bar

  • @joshuawright4198

    @joshuawright4198

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@athensia443 How so

  • @LookingForAName...

    @LookingForAName...

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@athensia443 Most people ending up there wouldn't have that type of self consciousness you're showing. Your intentions are in the right place, got out there and enjoy yourself and don't worry too much, it's supposed to be fun.

  • @PetalsAndPlague
    @PetalsAndPlague4 жыл бұрын

    There's also a flip side to this. DMs who use the "I'm not Matt Mercer" excuse. I've seen this time and time again where a DM will say it to defend not being prepared and not caring about the characters. A DM who treats the game like a faceless block of stats. There's nothing more disheartening than getting stoked about playing a character to sit down and the DM doesn't even know their name by session 10. I think this is the biggest problem with DnD. I've never expected a game to have all the bells and whistles of Critical Role. But I do want a DM to be at least interested in the character I invested so much time in creating. And I think DnD being a roleplaying game implies that character matters. Now I've had DMs that were able to achieve CR levels of roleplaying. It has to do with DMs level of interest. For example I played Waterdeep Dragon Heist twice. Two different DMs. The first sat down and asked players about what they wanted to play while we were still in TOA. In the game he had read the module and knew all of it well. All of characters mattered. The world felt real, colorful and full of life. It was honestly one of the best campaigns I've ever been in. The next game he started is following closely as second best. The second time, the DM was just sorta lazy. One session in, a player quit asking me if he had ever DMed before? Yes. For years. It felt like he hadn't looked at the book at all. The world was flat, he didn't ask us about who we were playing. By session 4, 3 people had quit.

  • @mer_mer4

    @mer_mer4

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have also seen this in personally as a DM I've found it to be super lazy Yes being at the end is much harder but what is the point of running a shitty game. what's worse is I've seen it used to deflect from the fact that someone is making a power fantasy game where they create a bunch of super powerful NPCs that the players get dragged around in

  • @keltzy

    @keltzy

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think the worst DM I ever had had gotten a bit too invested in his world unfortunately. Every time we entered a new place, he would give us a 15 minute lecture about the history of said place, regardless of whether or not it was relevant to anything we were doing. It's good to be excited about the world, but a university lecture isn't likely to make anyone else at the table excited about it too. Also, I can't underestimate how important the other players at the table are. That DM was over-exuberant, but he was definitely trying, and he did throw us character tidbits here and there. I tried being a diligent player for the first few sessions, but nobody else seemed to care about the world, the story, or even the other characters at the table. It was a frustrating situation to be in, and eventually I quit.

  • @davidmorgan6896

    @davidmorgan6896

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@keltzy exposition is as awful in an RPG as it is in any other type of fiction. It is occasionally necessary, but the GM should try to find other ways of making the world seem real.

  • @mer_mer4

    @mer_mer4

    3 жыл бұрын

    also I cannot understate this. Even with the world's greatest DM The game will suck with bad players I never have been and never will claim to be a great DM but I try my damnedest people expect Matthew Mercer level DMs but then don't strive to be Taliesin Jaffe level players. hell half the time the DM can't expect them to not be on their phones and pay attention, or even take god damn notes...

  • @PetalsAndPlague

    @PetalsAndPlague

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mer_mer4 I do agree to an extent. Though I do believe you need to make a setting in which players feel they can do that sort of roleplaying. I feel that way with the DM from the first game of Waterdeep but not the second. And I love roleplaying. Over time, playing in DM 2's games has left me quiet and shy about leaping into a character. As much as I want to, if you have a DM who doesn't care about it or worse, pokes fun at you for attempting accents or other character traits, then it makes the player less and less enthusiastic. If he doesn't care about the character I made, then why should I put forth effort? Then on the other side with DM 1, I use voices, make indepth characters, have no use for my phone, I don't need notes cuz I am all in! I haven't played in his game in months because of the corona but I remember exactly what was going on. I acknowledge there are players that don't get into roleplay but it's the DM's job to get them invested.

  • @MathasiaJ
    @MathasiaJ4 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely ADORE that little joke making fun of the Laura Bailey haters

  • @jetvulcan2020

    @jetvulcan2020

    4 жыл бұрын

    I loved hearing that thrown in their as well.

  • @kaleidoslug7777

    @kaleidoslug7777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Laura Bailey haters dont deserve videogames

  • @zacharygadzinski3147

    @zacharygadzinski3147

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think people just hate Naughty Dog, not Laura. Wouldn't be surprised if most of those comments were a marketing stunt from Naughty Dog. Laura was doing a job and nothing more. I haven't played any of the Last of US games since I mainly own Nintendo consoles, but I've heard that Druckman practically ruined the game. So if you ask me the vitriol should be directed at the developer for using Laura as a shield.

  • @formula2233

    @formula2233

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@zacharygadzinski3147 Those comments were left by previously active twitter accounts. Don't let the vitriol of a game you didn't like allow you to spread misinformation like that.

  • @Kronosxviii1

    @Kronosxviii1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@zacharygadzinski3147 Very true. The Last of Us p2 was visually appealing, barely made any innovation in game play(as in they added maybe two things as it's a story focused game), and while it's a story based game it spectacularly failed at that imo. They killed the fan favorite father character from the 1st game for "shock value and rage inducement" then sent you down a path that ended up with the entire second half of the game making you feel as if everything before it was empty and as pointless as the Mass Effect 3 ending. Oh and somehow they made the ending of the game feel even more unfulfilling than ME3's, which is a true achievement in its own. So if you're looking for a game that excels at disappointing you, play TLOU part 2. xD

  • @ItsAllNunya
    @ItsAllNunya4 жыл бұрын

    Its a fault in the fandom that we forget that the actors are professional voice actors playing for our entertainment. they sacrificed their private game time to stream to the public, making it ANOTHER BIT OF WORK, where they ply their voice acting and crowd working craft. which is fine since they seem to have chosen that. but all of them. all of them are professionals, like you stated. we gotta be grateful to them. theyre amazing.

  • @grizzly6077
    @grizzly60774 жыл бұрын

    I wish the Matt Mercer effect was when you put years of work into a DnD game with your friends and you make something beautiful and meaningful together. I'm sure CR isn't the first group to do this, but that is what they have done. Setting your expectations to that level for session 1 with strangers is a personal problem, and as a fan of Matt and of CR it is such a bummer to have such a negative connotation attached to his name.

  • @AngelusNielson

    @AngelusNielson

    2 жыл бұрын

    To me if someone drops out of the game because of that it's not a loss to me. If I ever DM I'll flat out say I'm not Mercer.

  • @hamd8375
    @hamd83754 жыл бұрын

    When you said "your game will never be as good as critical role. " I felt like I didn't want to play dnd anymore, and when you said "they'll be better" I remembered how much fun I had, and still have, playing this amazing game

  • @kylestickley8096
    @kylestickley80964 жыл бұрын

    Our DM has had a town sheriff talk like Mickey Mouse, and a bartender talk like Christopher Walken, and many more. Our group is fuckin spoiled.

  • @jimevers869
    @jimevers8694 жыл бұрын

    This is why low expectations are fun. Expect the average or worse and everything seems amazing.

  • @pedroxavier4227

    @pedroxavier4227

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is harder to achive then you think.

  • @hamd8375

    @hamd8375

    4 жыл бұрын

    Expecting the average or worse makes things seem very depressing

  • @playyourdrums6762

    @playyourdrums6762

    4 жыл бұрын

    Life 101: keep your expectations low and you'll be forever happy

  • @aleousmajor6825

    @aleousmajor6825

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think I can agree to that. Like don’t try to overestimate everyone and everything and take each session for what it is and you should enjoy it better.

  • @anonymousfellow8879

    @anonymousfellow8879

    4 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t gotten to play DnD yet. I totally expect it to be me overacting and screwing up my dice with a group who’ve played together for at least a few sessions and not really having done any sort of amateur acting at all. Basically, a disproportionate hot mess...IF you’re trying to record it. But finally getting to play? Yeah that’ll be way better than listening to a podcast. (...if they’re patient with new players, anyway...)

  • @SkinFlint_
    @SkinFlint_4 жыл бұрын

    It's like listening to a band and thinking: "Wow, I want to do that too!". So you get together a bunch of friends to play their music, and you start playing and then you realise you all suck. With enough practice, the band will sound better, and each band will sound different. And eventualy it does not matter what you sound like, because you are having fun with friends.

  • @Gauldame

    @Gauldame

    4 жыл бұрын

    No it's like doing what you said, and then the band calls out the lead singer constantly: The lead who organized it, got the space, supplied the instruments set the stage for the band. Who still can't carry a tune or even practice on their own.

  • @giorgiomauceri410

    @giorgiomauceri410

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is... a very good example. DnD is cooperative storytelling. Which means the story is told by everyone. So addressing only the DM about the game not being as good as you imagined isn't always the solution, because it isn't always their fault. Sometimes the lead singer is a little bit too slow sometimes the guitarist plays the wrong note. But that's why you train. People don't start a band expecting to be as good as ACDC, but want to grow to their level.

  • @stephennettles2309

    @stephennettles2309

    4 жыл бұрын

    As a musician, actor, and TTRPG player... I feel this

  • @Johncornwell103

    @Johncornwell103

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nah it's more like listening to Nirvana and then expecting your guitarist, not only play guitar but sing, write the song melodies and lyrics, be the frontman, and get pissed when they can't.

  • @777Looper

    @777Looper

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is a great comment and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

  • @bluesunday2585
    @bluesunday25853 жыл бұрын

    My response to players wanting me to DM like Matt Mercer: "Absoluetly but only on the condition you play like his party."

  • @blondemaverick
    @blondemaverick4 жыл бұрын

    As a DM who has never actually seen Critical Role and has never wanted for wonderful players who bring different things to every table... I had no idea that people were giving up because they weren't Matt. Like... Wow.

  • @LetMeDy
    @LetMeDy4 жыл бұрын

    Watching this just a few hours before I DM and, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. It's really hard sometimes to be a DM when you can't stop comparing yourself to Matt. I know I shouldn't but I admire the level he's at so a lot of times it's inevitable. It's so good to see videos, tweets, and other things to tell you that it's OK if you're not the best, because at the end of the day we don't play DnD to be the best DM or the best Player, we play DnD to have fun with our friends.

  • @LordZeebee

    @LordZeebee

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's also important to remember that almost everyone has those kinds of feelings, it's called impostor syndrome. Even Matt himself has a severe case of impostor syndrome, he talks about it in his Between the Sheets interview. We're all in this together. It is hard as balls but as long as we have each other's backs, acknowledge the feeling and talk about it i think we can eventually get past it :) As long as you're with friends it doesn't matter how good your worldbuilding is, how many unique voices you can do or how intricate of a plot you've designed. With every session you're getting better and better whether you realize it or not anyway so as long as you're having fun doing it, what does it matter? :)

  • @mistresspheonix854

    @mistresspheonix854

    4 жыл бұрын

    You could also think of it like this. Now I don't know how long you've been DMing for but maybe your just starting out so your level 2 or 3, maybe you've had some good experiences and you've been doing it for a while and your level 9-11 maybe you've been playing for years and know what your talking about but still have room to improve so your level 15/16. Matt is most defiantly a level 20 DM. And while I have no doubt that there are other DMs out there that are level 20. I also know that with enough time, dedication and experience you or anyone can make it to a level 20 whether that is as a DM or a player. But this might not hold a lot of weight given the fact that this is coming from a baby who played her first D&D session ever yesterday. But I am owning my Level one stats. And hoping to grow with experience.

  • @OneSpikeyGuy
    @OneSpikeyGuy4 жыл бұрын

    Matt Mercer is an amazing DM, but there are as good dms out there. They just dont get exposition. Not everyone has the same type of dming anyway. Different styles and genres

  • @zarchblarch2490
    @zarchblarch24904 жыл бұрын

    Davvy Chappy: Matt Mercer is probably the best dm Me: this is pure Griffin McElroy Erasure

  • @ChestersonJack

    @ChestersonJack

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Brennan Lee Mulligan. Honestly, I think we tend of think of professional players as “the best” because they have production value on their side, and it being their job. But I think there are probably some far better DMs we will never know of because their sessions aren’t available online

  • @mistermaestersirthomas9164

    @mistermaestersirthomas9164

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ChestersonJack production nothing, editing is the true power. Also PCs scared of internet backlash, keeps em honest and way less problematic. Shout out: Titus (dark future dice), Brian (NADPOD), Travis (Dark dice)

  • @ChestersonJack

    @ChestersonJack

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mistermaestersirthomas9164 Editing is part of production

  • @SaintDaisley

    @SaintDaisley

    3 жыл бұрын

    The thing about 'the best DM' is that there's a heavy element of subjective style preference. Brennan is *funny as fuck* and runs more lighthearted games where he will happily tell you directly that he's fudging a rule because you're trying to be awesome. It's a very different tone and if it's what you would prefer to do after a 60 hour week of vocational horseshit, that's what matters. Straight up, I don't think Brennan could run the campaigns Matt does. And I don't think Matt could run the campaigns Brennan does (in both cases, I mean, certainly not as well as their counterpart does). And we know for a fact that they love each others' campaigns (Je're'mi the scream beast is Matt's vote for best NPC companion he has ever seen).

  • @fryingpanllama4238
    @fryingpanllama42384 жыл бұрын

    “Your games will not be as good as critical role. They’ll be better” *ACK YOU HIT MY THEATRE NERD NERVOUS SYSTEM IM GETTING ALL TINGLY*

  • @asbestosfish_
    @asbestosfish_4 жыл бұрын

    Now we must ask the question: When did he change his profile pic _this_ time?

  • @nobledonkey17
    @nobledonkey174 жыл бұрын

    ...ok so I'll be honest.. I was 1st drawn to DnD because davvy, puffin, and jocat (critical role is just the thing that pushed me over the edge to actually go and try to find a group which isnt damn easy)

  • @lapaba1236

    @lapaba1236

    4 жыл бұрын

    nobledonkey17 For me it was The Adventure Zone, JoCat, Puffin and Dingo.

  • @ladypossum1776

    @ladypossum1776

    4 жыл бұрын

    For me it was XPtoLevel3, Runesmith, Puffin, Dingo, and JoCat,

  • @ZyroShadowPony

    @ZyroShadowPony

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same, ironically it was puffin who led me to critical role thanks to that dead drunk guards animation. It was just the podcast that made me go "I can have these experiences too!" Which led me to find my first DND group thanks to reddit to where it lasted from late 2019 to mid 2020 (basically this month. Sad to say the group ended because the DM left for personal reasons and he was a great dm)

  • @giorgiomauceri410

    @giorgiomauceri410

    4 жыл бұрын

    I first learnt about Dnd from an italian TTRPG project, InnTale, which started on KZread and immediately became pretty successful. They record their sessions, divide them and edit them, and publish them in episodes. Then, aside from the main campaign, since some of them are Voice Actors, one of them started dubbing JoCat's videos in Italian. This lead me to JoCat, which lead me to Dingo, which lead me to all the guys like Runesmith, Davvy and XpToLevel3. And XpToLevel3's videos about CR lead me to watching Campaign 2 (which I started in January and ended last month). So Critical role is just the last step for me.

  • @GodofFreedom

    @GodofFreedom

    4 жыл бұрын

    Order Of The Stick, DM Of The Rings, webcomics did it for me

  • @hopefulhyena3400
    @hopefulhyena34004 жыл бұрын

    I think one of my players said it best. It was something to the effect of “I don’t expect [my name] to be as prepared as any of the professional DMs online because he spends 5 days of his week doing non-dnd things, and we don’t pay him to DM for us.”

  • @jonathanlautre489
    @jonathanlautre4894 жыл бұрын

    So the thing I really don't like about the discussion around the Matt Mercer effect is that there is another side of the coin. That being that though the high expectations exist which can lead to disappointment, it's that same high standard that has players and GMs alike striving to better their own games and make the magic happen. It's why the success of Critical role has created a market for so many top tier GMs to share their advice so that everyone while not always hitting the mark can strive to make the best games they possibly can.

  • @mer_mer4

    @mer_mer4

    4 жыл бұрын

    yeah, i get some people dont like how he treats the game mechanically, but ive been very happy ever since i used him as a target for how i treat engaging my players and RP

  • @ccloudleaf

    @ccloudleaf

    4 жыл бұрын

    TRUE!

  • @cinco_de_la_tarde

    @cinco_de_la_tarde

    4 жыл бұрын

    Completely agree. For me, "The Critical Role Effect" is more the never ending goal to improve your skills as a player and as a DM. You can pick up different ways to do things and learn by watching people who are really great at it. Additionally, I LOVE that CR has essentially made RAW no longer the only way to do things. It never was but I definitely have played with a ton of groups who especially coming from crunchier systems like 3.5 or Pathfinder really wanted to stress getting the exact ruling right or the game "wasn't being played correctly". Early days of CR and Matt Mercer's early videos really indoctrinated people in a more lax style of rules management to "do what you think makes sense" as well as between him and other content creators inspired by them like Matt Colville, you've gotten a whole new subsection of people who now want to homebrew things and feel far more confident in doing so.

  • @xTysere

    @xTysere

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is how I've always seen it. DnD is a ttrpg. RPG is in the title. I'm just looking for DMs that can say look at CR and understand narration, world building, and scene setting are things I care about and engage in as a player. It has nothing to do with needing x many years of VA experience to make an NPC.

  • @inkdrinker1204
    @inkdrinker12044 жыл бұрын

    I love this video, i have been a dm for a fair bit and i always have that one player that says. “Oh like Matt Mercer!” or “Hey something like this happened in CR!” and it makes my heart sink every time, I put a lot of effort into my games and it makes me feel like i am shit when i get compared to him. ( never seen CR my dnd love came from High Rollers )

  • @harperthegoblin

    @harperthegoblin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Finally another who watches it

  • @thewarlocky

    @thewarlocky

    4 жыл бұрын

    If the player compares you to Matt, you should feel proud of yourself. That means you're probably a great DM

  • @Khaons

    @Khaons

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@thewarlocky nah, it never feels good on the dm side when a player compare something that happened in game to something that happened in any other form of media

  • @thewarlocky

    @thewarlocky

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Khaons If that's the case than every DM should feel bad after DMing every session. It's almost impossible to be 100% original these days. It doesn't matter if you're playing in a homebrew world or not, you're gonna spot some similarities with things from other medias. If someone gets mad because their players say "hey, I've seen this before" every once in a while... that sounds like a different kind of problem to me.

  • @Bawinni

    @Bawinni

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Khaons that probably means they are enjoying it, its not the same if a player where to tell me that im copying from X show/comic/movie. sometimes players will say "wow this is like x thing i really like" as a form of compliment

  • @realKhalilG
    @realKhalilG4 жыл бұрын

    RIP the classic Davvy Pfp

  • @DavvyChappy

    @DavvyChappy

    4 жыл бұрын

    That was my second pfp, actually. My first one had me smiling with pixel glasses because I am cringe.

  • @taylormanton3013

    @taylormanton3013

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DavvyChappy oof

  • @gggggart8732

    @gggggart8732

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DavvyChappy davvy with glasses was pretty great, ngl

  • @Biochemitra
    @Biochemitra4 жыл бұрын

    That "They'll be better" bit at the end was so heartfelt. I'm fortunate enough that I haven't experienced this effect, but I know what it's like to be afraid that you'll never be able to create something that affects you the way your favorite piece of media does. It's just nice to be reminded that D&D's real strength is creating a story with your friends, and that story is far more personal to you than any other could ever be.

  • @bizarresilver
    @bizarresilver4 жыл бұрын

    An enjoyable and interesting watch for sure. I've had it weird with the Matthew Mercer effect in that all of my d&d friends have watched Critical Role and are "up to speed never miss a week" types, but I've never watched it, or rather I have seen the first episode (which I did enjoy sort of), but never really pursued the show. So I've been making my own campaign and working on my own stuff while feeling a pressure to not only match my friend's MM expectations, but actually watch the show so I can even comprehend what they ask of me. And yet due to some warped pride garnished with laziness, I still have not watched it. I think in a way that has helped me. Though I'm no pro, I am working on my own terms, my own campaign and world. Even with my friends' expectations, I feel the pressure, yet lack the looming shadow of knowing the depth of what I'm compared to. I'm lucky I've a lot of acting experience to fall back on myself, but I feel for my fellow dms and players out there, because a giant has walked the path before them. I agree with you. His journeys, Critical Role's journeys, are valid AND their own. And our campaigns, our journeys, are ours alone.

  • @thatpedanticcommenter5847
    @thatpedanticcommenter58474 жыл бұрын

    I watch Critical Role to get inspiration of things I could do with my game in terms of interesting bits of lore I could add in. I wouldn't have found out about some of the old evil gods of DnD without watching the Mighty Nein's adventure, and now there's a major arc in my campaign going on where the players need to figure out how to deal with them as old invader deities into my homebrewed world because they've gone and angered their cults. I like the show to be entertained and occasionally give me something I can use as a DM or a player in my own way, but if my players expected that level of professionalism from me on the regular I don't think I'd want to continue playing due to the pressure. I frequently have to improvise a bunch of stuff and have skeletal session plans because I have different time priorities or because it would be too linear in a game I'm trying to make more open for people. I tend to make a few things as I go along, and having everything planned out in detail beforehand in the level that Matt does it at would not be feasible.

  • @rockstarvolkov4256
    @rockstarvolkov42564 жыл бұрын

    The last time I was this early, Abeir-Toril were still together.

  • @VinceValentine

    @VinceValentine

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've given up on Forgotten Realms after the fourth divine meddling or so. You'd think Ao would have fired all the deities for constantly ruining the planet with their petty squabbles. The Time of Troubles was an interesting concept in the 80s, but since then TSR/Wizards came up with one god-cataclysm after another, and it's super tiresome.

  • @kalten1380

    @kalten1380

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@VinceValentine I mean he basically did fire them I think? "Ok you guys are getting too involved in mortal business, fuck off away from the material plane or you guys will become mortal. Powerful yes, but mortal" and most of the deities said ok iirc

  • @nealjustus9500
    @nealjustus95004 жыл бұрын

    "your games will not be as good as critical roll's, it will be better" at first when i heard this i was offended, then it sunk in and i realized what you ment by that. thank you

  • @coffeepowered6033
    @coffeepowered60333 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, that Patreon shoutout made me subscribe, I was already considering it cause I liked the vibe, but that was so unexpectedly funny haha

  • @Johncornwell103
    @Johncornwell1034 жыл бұрын

    It's like watching the NFL and then getting pissed when your backyard football game's QB cant play the game like Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers.

  • @KidoKoin

    @KidoKoin

    4 жыл бұрын

    I get, what you mean, but that's not exactly a fair comparison. Mercer and Co. are great with all their charms and vices. But they are whales in a small pond, relatively. What you are describing would feature Scorsese, Fincher, Lynch, Burton, Coen brothers or - help us God - Tarantino, Kubrick or Lars von Trier as DMs. With Anthony Hopkins, Meril Streep, Charlize Theron, Javier Bardem, De Niro, Tom Hanks, Bale and god knows who else in the player pool.

  • @shawnpatti1143
    @shawnpatti11434 жыл бұрын

    I was lucky enough to start my D&D experience without ever seeing Critical Role. Now, six years after my first session, I enjoy listening to Critical Role and adding some of the immersive narration tactics and such to my own games. However, I'm thankful that my enjoyment of the show never shaped or warped my experience of the game.

  • @jamieolson4345
    @jamieolson43454 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Thanks for this. I've been playing for 40 years, and this is the best, most welcoming, truthful explanation of the game I've seen. I just started running a game for some first-timers (including my daughter) and I'm sharing this with them. Again, thank you

  • @jellyfishjig
    @jellyfishjig4 жыл бұрын

    Davvy: "People might look down on DMs who aren't as charismatic or knowledgeable as Matt Mercer" Me having just DMed a Discord game where no one, including myself, had played DnD before: 'Sweats nervously in corner'

  • @TheKazragore

    @TheKazragore

    4 жыл бұрын

    Congrats! That's a pretty damn fine thing. How'd it go??

  • @jellyfishjig

    @jellyfishjig

    4 жыл бұрын

    It went alright.

  • @biscuits_cake
    @biscuits_cake4 жыл бұрын

    Some things that you left out and should absolutely be included: 1. Matt Mercer (and by extension Critical Role) are not the only pieces of media that can cause the Matt Mercer Effect. (Barbara Streisand wasn't the only person subject to the Streisand Effect after all.) As an example one player at my table had their first exposure to D&D was Puffin Forest, JoCat, and Dingo Doodles. They showed this with their characters acting like Puffin Forest's and even trying to recreate memes from JoCat and Dingo, such as Eldritch Blast or Wild Magic. Needless to say it was frustrating and we had to have a talk about it. 2. You talk about this from a player's perspective, but the DM is also not inoculated from the Matt Mercer effect. A DM can have unrealistic expectations for their players, or they could just have expectations contrary to the players. As another example, as a starting DM, I expected my players to roleplay a lot more. Of course they couldn't and didn't want to, it was an after-school game and I was the only theater kid at the table who enjoyed acting.

  • @ccloudleaf

    @ccloudleaf

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good points! We also didn't get to play with our groups for like 2 years before ever making it a show. Haha CR has been playing together FOREVER. There are so many layers.

  • @OniNoSweeney
    @OniNoSweeney4 жыл бұрын

    "... huffing plastic dice." So that's how that d6 got stuck up his nose.

  • @Blodyqueef
    @Blodyqueef4 жыл бұрын

    I love all your vids, and you being a fellow larper is some weird connection that somehow binds us in space-time and love..........yeah ANYWHO! This was one of your best videos ever. Well told, well planned and it hit home. Thanks........space-TIME LOVE!

  • @jailpk3d
    @jailpk3d4 жыл бұрын

    I recently started critical role, and I am also currently dming my first campaign. The only thing I try to do is learn bits and pieces how matt mercer and the cast of critical role conduct their session and use that info to improve each week on my own campaign. The progress I have made from session 1 to now has been amazing, and I think having conversations with my players on how to rp better has really brought a lot more life to my campaign and more enjoyment to everyone involved :). Great video!

  • @rallsanti
    @rallsanti4 жыл бұрын

    Started DMing a game recently after watching CR for a while and finally wanting to do roleplaying games again. Before this the only type of DMing I had done was running roleplay campaigns in online MMO's. I will be honest, I learned a lot from watching Matt. I try to make sure my players are engaged and entertained with better descriptions of action, scenery, and even doing some fun voices for characters (nowhere near as good as a real voice actor... but it's still kinda fun to talk in a breathy old man's voice for the local priest... or a whiney voice as the thief kid... or the country bumpkin voice for the smalltown guard who is a few cards short...)... But in the end it was that first moment i heard my players talking about the game a day or two after a session.. so engaged and excited for the next time we would be getting together... that is kinda what made all the extra effort worth it. I am always happy to know that the players are enjoying the story and really getting into it all. And yeah, I even had one of the characters tell me the story was better than CR. I am glad he thought that way because the story is tailored to him... and the other players at the table. That personalized touch is what makes the game so much better for those playing!

  • @TheRuneskald
    @TheRuneskald4 жыл бұрын

    When I started watching CR, it inspired me to try harder, to be a better DM. But, it didn't matter. My friends that I DM for were, well, meme lords. They don't bother too much with roleplay and rarely make in-game decisions for themselves, and make a point to do some dumb ass shit when they do. I kept burning myself out making and prepping for the campaign until eventually, I just gave up. I just started pulling shit out of my ass instead of actually prepping before session. But that's when I noticed. Though they were invested and enjoyed the prepped stuff, they also enjoyed the random bullshit I kept coming up with. We haven't 'clicked' like you said in the video, but we've reached an understanding of how we want to play. Beer & Pretzel free-form style, just a bunch of friends messing around and most importantly, having fun. And that's what matters. If everyone, DM included, has fun. It doesn't matter how you play aslong as long as you remember that. This has been my messy TED talk, thank you.

  • @LordZeebee

    @LordZeebee

    4 жыл бұрын

    This specifically is SOOOOOO important, holy shit. Everyone in the group, not just the players, need to know what kind of game they want to play before ever getting their butts in their seats. This takes some time to develop an understanding of sadly but it is one of the cornerstones if any stable group. My first one had a huge diversity of different playstyles from member to member and that group fell after like 2 sessions. Some wanted a Beer & Pretzles game, some a Storydriven game and some an Open World. One of the openworld-oriented players literally just decided to leave the first encounter because she wanted to test the boundaries of what was possible in the game, much to our poor storydriven first-time DM's chagrin. Probably the main reason i still play today was that the DM was aiming for my playstyle to begin with so even if the group fell i had still seen how deep the rabbit hole goes so to speak.

  • @stephennettles2309

    @stephennettles2309

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is something that's quite hard for me at times. I want to invest in a deep story and have been that way since before watching CR since the DMs that taught me to play were like that. I'm finding that my players prefer to goof off and have meme-y stories. What I'm trying to do now is have a larger more general group that focuses on "flavor of the week" episodes rather than a long overarching campaign, and have a smaller group of players that are more interested in the story telling side of DnD as a separate game.

  • @Anon-Mew
    @Anon-Mew4 жыл бұрын

    I needed this man... I’ve been DMing a group for about 6 sessions and even though I put everything into every session, but I always leave feeling like I didn’t give them a good enough session. Like my all wasn’t enough and will never be good enough.

  • @darcyw156
    @darcyw1564 жыл бұрын

    Wow intense vid Davvy. Thank you I needed it. I love your perspective. Keep up the great videos.

  • @estevanrodriguez4002
    @estevanrodriguez40024 жыл бұрын

    Just have fun with friends that's all that's important, stay engaged it's very fun to do so, and dms love it when their players are engaged. It makes their job easier and shows them that you are interested, myself and dms I know are all concerned in whether the players are interested in the game or not. Luckily I have an amazing tuesday group that I dm.

  • @DDespicable
    @DDespicable4 жыл бұрын

    As someone who has also watched shows like the glass cannon podcast, the unexpectables and TAZ, i believe i can say while matt is a brilliant and hard working dm his fairly orthodox style of dnd story telling can get pretty dull after a time. I love crit role and matt, but those 3 shows i mentioned earlier make me laugh so much more and thus mean different things to me.

  • @Dmimpostor
    @Dmimpostor4 жыл бұрын

    I started dm about 7 months ago I had seen just about every other dm on KZread, and so when I started I threw all that away and went head in and found a lovely group that was willing to put effort into our story, and now every time I hear I love your game I wait for your game every Sunday I know we are all doing something right.

  • @redcrossbow6389
    @redcrossbow63894 жыл бұрын

    Davvy this was like the best video I've seen on your channel, love you!

  • @dainslatton9877
    @dainslatton98774 жыл бұрын

    All of this said, any DM (or player for that matter) worth their salt tries to get better and better. We all have room for improvement. Even Matt gets better and better the more he does it. Don't put it all on other people to keep you entertained at the table. You have as much responsibility to help weave a good story as anyone else, regardless of your role. Whether you are player or DM, help draw your fellows into the role-play. Role-play is what creates memorable adventuring parties.

  • @miles6283
    @miles62834 жыл бұрын

    Can we also take a moment to acknowledge the DMs who expect their players to live up to VM or M9?

  • @HoodKombo
    @HoodKombo4 жыл бұрын

    This is also a very encouraging video for anyone who's been DMing a little while but still occasionally questions their capabilities. Thanks a bunch, Davvy

  • @kingendercow
    @kingendercow3 жыл бұрын

    My friend runs a banger of a game for us. It’s been really hard to play during Covid but when we do play it is so amazing. It’s been some of the most fun I’ve ever had in dnd and we only made it there as a group that had been playing for years. We all had experience and we all wanted to make the game as good as possible. We all put effort into our characters and our DM put so much into his world. It is such a fun setting to play in and the world feels so alive! There hasn’t been one down session even when someone rolls bad all night! We laugh, and cry, and have fun and move to the next arc as our characters grow into better stronger people. It’s such a wonderful game but it wasn’t the game that made it wonderful, it was us.

  • @PoorComics
    @PoorComics4 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Critical Role shouldn't be what people expect their experience to be like but rather what they should strive to be like, should they wish to play at that level. That being said, if you want to find a Dm like Matt maybe work towards being that very DM. If you want players like the cast then aim to rp your heart out: if your the DM encourage that behavior, if you're a player try to lead by example. That being said, I know it takes time to find the right group as well. Some don't like rp others don't like combat, it will take a lot of trial and error to find that group but if you're with one long enough, don't be afraid to speak up about what you're looking for. Unless the people involved are completely closed minded, in which case you might want to keep your search going, they usually listen to what you have to say and are willing to give new styles a shot.

  • @johnkiezulas7439
    @johnkiezulas74394 жыл бұрын

    I'm not a watcher of Critical role, my go to RPG series is The third wheel's Thrilling intent. The series starts of rough in that session zero sense. Everyone is awkward, trying voices and trying their hardest to get into character. But after a few sessions (chopped up into about 40 episodes), the group really finds themselves and go through cool arcs titled Wizard high school, Everything is on fire (but it could be worse), and Dungeon truck. But the reason I love the series so much isn't because Jay (the GM) is a amassing genius of a man (although the scenarios and characters he makes are awesome) its because the players all have found the chemistry and voice for their characters. They don't have the same production value as CR, but I honestly don't care. All I hope is that Fae eventually gets to return to Play Ashe again.

  • @wolfmoe7398
    @wolfmoe73983 жыл бұрын

    Subscribing and commenting to you tubers I like is like talking to one of the many gods, they appreciate the attention but they got a lot on their plate. Makes those times where you do get an answer or a pat on the head so satisfying. God like power is making people happy with the simplest of actions. Like a pat on the head.

  • @snuckytoes8427
    @snuckytoes84274 жыл бұрын

    I have some D&D friends who could really use this video, thanks Davvy, you’re a good man.

  • @nimbarzentivos1237
    @nimbarzentivos12374 жыл бұрын

    D&D Jesus just shows us the way. He never expects us to shadow his every movements, mimic his voices to precisely, and instill fear and foreboding as if we too were master thespians. We just worship him for the love and joy he provides. Blessed be the Matt

  • @picklem576
    @picklem5764 жыл бұрын

    As long as everyone at the table WANTS to care about the setting and each other's PCs, the game will eventually feel a lot like CR but better, because it's YOUR game.

  • @lostonessoul5154
    @lostonessoul51544 жыл бұрын

    thanks Davvy. As a DM who's party fell apart I felt that I messed up. This...I needed this.

  • @valacarno
    @valacarno3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Davvy, for this amazing video.

  • @viktord2025
    @viktord20254 жыл бұрын

    "Patron Saint of D&D" Gary would like a word with you.

  • @Krytern

    @Krytern

    4 жыл бұрын

    Who's Gary?

  • @viktord2025

    @viktord2025

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Krytern Gary Gygax, the creator of D&D. It's his birthday today, also known as international Gary Gygax Day.

  • @Krytern

    @Krytern

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@viktord2025 Thanks for the info, I've only recently gotten interested in D&D and want to find a game so I don't know the history.

  • @thatguy7243
    @thatguy72434 жыл бұрын

    Another wholesome davvy chappy vid, that's still awesome

  • @nicholas1888
    @nicholas18884 жыл бұрын

    I had this problem myself starting off as a DM, I compared myself to everyone else and all I ever thought about was how my players perceived me. I was focused on my feelings of fear and that grew into my first games, instead of thinking about telling a good story or having fun I was thinking about the worst aspect of D&D. - Games I run now for me are the most fun I've had doing anything ever, because I don't think about it anymore. I don't care if I'm the best or if dudes on the internet approve of my style. We entertain each other, have a good time and as long as the party are enjoying ourselves then not much else is going to matter compared to that. What we are feeling translates into our writing, our voice acting and just everything we do as a DM/Player. It's not that there's a magic way to turn off anxiety, but if you stop giving it so much power and realize it's just something you are feeling it'll be fine. - Edit: Also if you are DM'ing/Playing in a game and it's extremely stressful for you, it's possible you are not playing with the right people. Even today when I DM, if I am with people who don't care about the game or are just straight up narcissists, like it throws me off my game completely. You have a right to play with people who respect you and appreciate the time you put in for them. All my players mention this stuff to me, that they've had games completely ruined because it's a bunch of people who don't want to really play together. Curating your group is a huge thing, it makes the world of difference if someone isn't waiting around the corner to punch you in the face.

  • @garnet_gaming4269
    @garnet_gaming42694 жыл бұрын

    Never in my life have had to deal with this. I do however have a problem with the amount of warlocks that keep making uka’toa clones for their patrons

  • @stephennettles2309

    @stephennettles2309

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm currently roleplaying a ArchFey patron for a warlock player of mine and I'm trying so freaking hard to not overly copy the relationship between Jester and The Traveler.

  • @mella4376

    @mella4376

    4 жыл бұрын

    Isn't that more of a function of Cthulhu overexposure in our media though? I would hardly call uk'otoa the main archetype for that sort of ocean-dwelling dream-inhabiting leviathan-deity

  • @ForeverKite42

    @ForeverKite42

    4 жыл бұрын

    and you get to DM what would happen if Uka'Toa (Uka'toa, Uka'toa - yes the echo is required) was released. How is that not magical?

  • @niennaphillips

    @niennaphillips

    4 жыл бұрын

    Uk'otoa~~

  • @realafan888
    @realafan8884 жыл бұрын

    PLEASE don't compare yourself to Matt, if you are starting a game. IT'S OKAY. Your story is fine the way that you want to play it. Plus, don't let CR fool you. Matt spent 5+ years getting his players to the level of RP that you see today so NOTHING is going to happen overnight.

  • @violethyena6895
    @violethyena68954 жыл бұрын

    tbh, your last line brought a tear to my eye. Thank you. I'm a DM for my friends and it's where a lot of our social fun is. we had one player rage quit and I really hope he sees your video and GETS it. Thank you for being you and saying what you say Davy Chappy. You're awesome.

  • @ryanstout8634
    @ryanstout86344 жыл бұрын

    This became so motivational at some point and I love it. Good video

  • @StarWarsftw12
    @StarWarsftw124 жыл бұрын

    >Your games won't be good as Critical Role >Sad DM noises >They'll be better >Happy DM noises.

  • @river7222
    @river72224 жыл бұрын

    There's literally nothing wrong with wanting to do something like someone you admire.

  • @ccloudleaf

    @ccloudleaf

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah we as a community need to find a better balance. The amount of good CR has done for the scene get thrown out a lot by salty old school players and gatekeepers alike. We are all just enjoying this amazing game!

  • @flareinc7413
    @flareinc74134 жыл бұрын

    This! So so so so so much this!!!! Thank you DavvyChappy for making this video. As an owner of an FLGS in charge of the RPG scene, this is exactly the sort of stuff I needed to hear and need people to talk about. Thank you. ^^

  • @garttodant3223
    @garttodant32234 жыл бұрын

    Davvy, thanks a lot, I'm throwing my first dnd game as a dm with my friends who never had played dnd, and I really needed to see this. Im exactly the stereotype that you described, I knew dnd for CR and I am just too hyped. I will try my best as a dm and I'm sure my friends will try the same. Thanks Davvy

  • @bezretmet
    @bezretmet4 жыл бұрын

    Davvy Chappy: Makes a video that implies critique of Matt Mercer trigger happy critters: So you have chosen... death

  • @apocolototh1948
    @apocolototh19484 жыл бұрын

    "mass shared halluzination, fueled by huffing plastic dice"-gold

  • @shysirenfox7119
    @shysirenfox71194 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video once again!

  • @AshAdkins22
    @AshAdkins223 жыл бұрын

    Matt Mercer is a beast of a man. Jotaro, McCree, critical role, Jack Cooper from Titanfall 2. The list just goes on

  • @bradyweed4124
    @bradyweed41243 жыл бұрын

    Video summarized: at first it won’t be as good as critical role, but you’ll get the hang of it and you’ll have more fun than just listening to an episode

  • @CaptainRed1000
    @CaptainRed10003 жыл бұрын

    Personally, I use the Matt Mercer effect as a goal to work towards rather than an expectation to set for myself and others. It doesn't really need to end at all, just the expectations.

  • @pyrosianheir
    @pyrosianheir4 жыл бұрын

    100% yes to all of this. The first step for any fan of CR trying to get into dnd should be to take a step back and recognize that no table will be like any other. Take the table as it comes, and so long as you enjoy your particular group of nerds and or weirdos, it's a good table.

  • @MarshmallowMadnesss
    @MarshmallowMadnesss4 жыл бұрын

    Well, this helped with my confidence for session #2. Thanks.

  • @Cbb88dragonborn
    @Cbb88dragonborn4 жыл бұрын

    You said “patron” enough times and gave me a great and terrible idea. Matt Mercer is going to be a new warlock Patron

  • @StNowhere

    @StNowhere

    3 жыл бұрын

    The requirements are you have to say "Eldritch Blast" like yeehaw Fjord.

  • @jokesonyou91
    @jokesonyou914 жыл бұрын

    I've never watched CR. Seems like a lot of players around that table. How do they get anything done? How long is combat?

  • @lazynoodle6739
    @lazynoodle67393 жыл бұрын

    That's a really good video about Matt Mercer effect, and it feels really motivating. I really like the emphasis that yes, Critical Role is a show and people involved are performers with certain skillset already and we can't expect us and our friends, a bunch of amateur enthusiasts to be like that. It's all about having fun. Our games won't be like Critical Role - they will be ours Said me who haven't play any tabletop for over 4 years and had very little experience previously but is also a massive CR fan but also is aware that hey, every table is different and most tabletop sessions aren't like that and that intense, especially when you're starting. Even though I had a privilege to play a short and intense campaign with a mindblowing GM. I had fallen into the same effect for some time, comparing everything to that GM (dude was seriously amazing) but since I let myself go of that expectation, I feel so much happier with anything I had opportunity to play since even if it was very little haha

  • @warrenchristensen8836
    @warrenchristensen88364 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see more reviews of published content! Your HotDQ is still one of my favorites.

  • @DeathEatsCurry
    @DeathEatsCurry3 жыл бұрын

    Jokes on you, the only accents I do are racially-questionable-Russian and definitely-racist-Japanese.

  • @jacksonkalvin1205

    @jacksonkalvin1205

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao same

  • @Randomdudefromtheinternet
    @Randomdudefromtheinternet4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe we should be a bit more chill on Matt, it's tough to be a god.

  • @dsargus3

    @dsargus3

    4 жыл бұрын

    ... But if you get the people's nod Count your blessings, keep them sweet is my advice I love that Song

  • @eveescastle5866

    @eveescastle5866

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean to be fair he has to put up with Talesin the Elder God Jaffe

  • @Gauldame

    @Gauldame

    4 жыл бұрын

    Then do what "your god"says to do, and stop comparing dms to him. He literally has begged. It's not Matt that is being called out.

  • @israelhusky

    @israelhusky

    4 жыл бұрын

    He is no god of mine

  • @johnathanrooley8694
    @johnathanrooley86944 жыл бұрын

    Davvy, from my heart to yours, thank you. These current days have been rough, and things on twitter have not been kinder either. I am worried for my games, hell I am worried for D&D all together (hell the world at this point) but this video has brought a light to my day. So anyway, thank you. It's also nice to see people around a table again (even if they were pictures from years ago), and the words spoken here were kind, gentle, and encouraging.

  • @NoName-lh9xo
    @NoName-lh9xo4 жыл бұрын

    Its interesting how your introduction to the game can affect how you treat the game in general. My introduction was actually through projared's videos (feel as you may about him). But the thing he highlighted the most imo was the fun group stories and great fights that can come out of it (even the stuff that doesnt go right). So I'm thankful that he kinda set those expectations for me going in vs the high production value and talent of CR. Also helped that my usual DM is an incredible guy

  • @Zulk_RS

    @Zulk_RS

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey! ProJared was my intro to DnD to too.

  • @NoName-lh9xo

    @NoName-lh9xo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Zulk_RS its nice to not be alone then 😄👍

  • @nathanmassey8795
    @nathanmassey87954 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I didn’t like is the line “Your game will never be as good as Critical Role”. I think I can be, but in it’s own special way. Still great points though!

  • @DavvyChappy

    @DavvyChappy

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you stayed to the end, you’d see the meaning behind what I said. “Your games will never be as good as Critical Role. They’ll be better”.

  • @LordOceanus

    @LordOceanus

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DavvyChappy Because you will be there to experience them not just watch them

  • @sawyerpharris

    @sawyerpharris

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you just didn’t exit the vid 1 second earlier than you should have

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