My mom went vegan after a cancer scare (she was already pre-diabetic) led to a full hysterectomy. Her bloodwork gets better every year. She is no longer pre-diabetic, off her blood pressure meds, and no sign of cancer in 7 years. She never stopped eating carbs - she stopped eating animals.

@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530

4 жыл бұрын

How much sugar or processed carbs in the form of candy, donuts, ice cream, cake, pie, cupcakes, chips, french fries, pastries, etc etc does she eat?

@derartas

4 жыл бұрын

wow that's awesome!

@Skystar777

4 жыл бұрын

well done i am happy for your mom. my 82 yo dad lowered his insulin from 74 units to 14 units still takes meds for heart failure from 3 years ago. A year ago he had high blood pressure and a resting heart rate in the late 90s. Today eating low carb whole foods he has normal blood pressure readings. his resting heart rate is in the 60s. He looks great. He was eating junk food due to its convenience. I moved him in with me and got him off processed foods. So what seems to be the common denominator here is that anyone consuming too much sugar laden processed foods wether your a vegan or meat eater you will suffer consequences. I am convinced that nutrition is the key to good health.

@celifacejones

4 жыл бұрын

@@Skystar777 So glad he is doing better! My mom also ate a lot of junk food bc it was convenient. All breakfast and lunch was either donuts or frozen meals bc she worked next to a donut shop and 711. Once she got the hang of meal prep she stopped eating junk daily. I wholeheartedly agree: good nutrition is the key.

@celifacejones

4 жыл бұрын

@@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530 She definitely eats less than before but she is stubborn about certain things. Her favorite junk food meal is from Plant Power so she has that once a week. She usually has one junk food meal a week (our weekly dinner) and we found an amazing vegan chef that veganized traditional Mexican treats so she snacks on pan dulce, mazapan, etc.

Yes, I was aware of the connection between animal fat and diabetes because my husband REVERSED his type 2 diabetes when we dropped animals and animal products from our diet. Yup, gone baby gone. BUT he had to figure this out himself, NO ONE in the medical establishment helped him, he just happened to stumble across Neal Barnard's book Reversing Diabetes. It's like getting a whole new life. So THANK YOU For putting this video together, it is very accessible and I plan to share with another family member who was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes this week.

@bwoodward9564

4 жыл бұрын

That is a lie.

@sogar7926

4 жыл бұрын

who is paying you to write this bullshit.

@wickedserpent684

3 жыл бұрын

He's probably dead now xD

@Unsensitive

3 жыл бұрын

The only reason an animal fats are harmful is when: 1. The animal is fed a high PUFA diet(grain & seeds) 2. The animal is fed some other poison. 3. The person eating the meat eats otherwise a high PUFA diet. The mechanisms are clear. Excess PUFA, particularly Linoleic acid, is the root cause of mitochondrial dysfunction. This mitochondrial dysfunction also makes one more sensitive to carbs, lowering the safe threshold for them to consume. PUFA comes mainly from seed/vegetable oils, and non ruminant animals fed a high PUFA diet. Monogastric animals such as pork or chicken, sequester the PUFA, upwards of 30%. Ancestral diets were generally below 3% PUFA. For atherosclerotisis, LDL is required but not causal by itself. To cause atherosclerotisis the LDL must oxidize or glycate. PUFA in the LDL are the primary cause of oxidation. High blood sugar is the primary cause for glycation. Saturated fats will increase your LDL, but absent the polyunsaturated fats, or other significant oxidative factor, this higher LDL is not harmful, and is actually beneficial. LDL is needed for many vital functions in the body and reducing it increases mortality. As for carbohydrates, sugar is obviously bad, particularly fructose. Outside of this as long as you have a low PUFA diet, and are not currently metabolically deranged, carbs are fine for the most part.

@primalvegan3072

2 жыл бұрын

@@sogar7926 Who are you addressing? If it's me, just check out Mic's citations at the bottom of his post. The one about the pigs describes the diet, and it was hydrogenation soybean oil they fed them.

This is all very true. I reversed Type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, sleep apnea and no longer need a CPAP and have lost 92 pounds so far on a whole food plant based diet, and I'm 55. It's taken me 2-1/2 years to get here but it's SO worth it. My labs are amazing and I feel fantastic!

@IridescentW

4 жыл бұрын

Congrats! That is an incredible accomplishment, as well as a great reminder for myself that lasting progress takes time.

@ailinh911

4 жыл бұрын

your journey is so inspiring! i'm glad you were able to turn your health around, i hope you live a long and happy life♡

@rubygreta1

4 жыл бұрын

You could have eaten eggs, meat, poultry and fish and have gotten the same results, and enjoyed some tasty food.

@kuyt3400

4 жыл бұрын

good job!

@kuyt3400

4 жыл бұрын

@@rubygreta1 you didn't even watch the video or you couldn't absorb the information? 12:34

I moved completely to a whole food plant based diet with no added processed sugar, no added oil and no added salt - I dropped 25 kg (circa 55 pounds) and came off some of my diabetes medication. My "muscles" in my arms and legs have thinned dramatically - probably because the muscle was stuffed with fat. I feel better and when people say - how can you eat potatoes and slim - I say - think how many of the recipes for potatoes involve frying or deep frying - it is the oil that potatoes can absorb that is the problem - the key things for me was learning to water sauté and steaming potatoes and then crisping them in the air fryer with no oil to make fries or roast potatoes.

@johncrwarner

4 жыл бұрын

@Thu Nell Ⓥ The air fryer and my instant pot have been game changers for my cookery.

@johncrwarner

4 жыл бұрын

@Thu Nell Ⓥ I use it to steam potatoes cook rice and oat groats And make apple sauce too. I also cook beans in it. The point is that If I put in the same details in I get good results each time.

@grubi450

4 жыл бұрын

Muscles aren't stuffed with fat, they are surrounded by it. Loss of muscle is a common side effect when going low fat vegan as is gaining muscle when going carnivore due to increase in testosterone and other muscle building hormones

@Melissa.Garrett

4 жыл бұрын

Very true - potatoes chopped up in a stew or dry-fried or baked in spices don’t have many calories at all. Not to mention low fat, low salt, high in potassium and vitamin C, etc.

@lloydchristmas4547

4 жыл бұрын

Well done! You're making wise moves.

My brother was on insulin and high blood pressure meds. He was in bad shape. I read Dr. Michael Greger's book and put him on a whole food plant based diet. In three weeks he stopped taking his insulin, metformin, and blood pressure meds. All his readings were perfectly normal. That was two years ago. He loves the food, and never wants to go back to any meds, especially injecting insulin. Thank you for educating people, I wish everyone could experience the amazing change in lifestyle and health that my brother is enjoying. I only wish I had learned about this years ago to have been able to help my father.

@leanalovejoy631

Жыл бұрын

that's a wonderful success story - only 3 weeks!

@twist3d537

5 ай бұрын

he lost visceral fat is why

I remember that as a kid I LOVED bananas. Would eat 2-3 a day easily if left to my own devices. I clearly recall being told not to eat bananas anymore bc they were "too carby" and it frustrated me to no end. Let kids eat fucking fruits

@fukzen

3 жыл бұрын

banana is high in glycemic index. there is a video comparison eating banana and chocolate bar, and see how much they are raising blood glucoss. eat banana in moderation and some excercise i think its good.

@Magnulus76

2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Michael Gregory discusses in one of his videos how bananas actually raised basal metabolic rate, leading to weight loss, which as unexpected. Who knows the mechanism. Bananas have alot of prebiotic fiber, so perhaps that's a reason.

@pasanfernando6217

2 жыл бұрын

Bananas and other fruits usually have natural sugars that a composed within a fiber matrix. The danger is processed and added sugar which can increase inflammation and reduce the insulin sensitivity of the cells.

@ailz95

2 жыл бұрын

I eat at least 4 bananas a day - they don't affect my bg

My father reversed his type 2 diabeties by removing carbs, sugar and started just eating organic meat, fish, eggs, and a tone of green vegetables...he has never been better since then. There is a ton of carbs in a vegan diet and carbs are molecules and molecules of sugar.

@ash9259

2 жыл бұрын

Obviously, if you cut out carbs which increase the amount of blood glucose in the bloodstream, you will *therefore* have low blood glucose. Does this mean your father suddenly does not have diabetes, no! It means by removing glucose-containing compounds, he does not experience the symptoms of type 2 diabetes. Type 2 diabetes is caused by *insulin resistance.* Insulin resistance occurs when glucose cannot *correctly enter the cells.* The reason why glucose cannot enter a cell is IF and only IF fat is blocked the insulin signal from operating correctly.

@ferchope

9 ай бұрын

Same here carnivore diet and very insulin sensitive. That are facts that debunk all that studies

@laramccully3272

5 ай бұрын

@@ferchope, if you only eat beef and lamb, how do you know you are insulin sensitive?😊

@icanmanifest

2 ай бұрын

Humans evolved to to eat meat and vegetables and fruit. Eating meat is not the boogie bad. It's all the excess fat through cooking methods and fake manufactured food that causes the problem. Anybody eating lean healthy meat prepared without excess oil is going to be completely fine. Using this topic to make it sound like people need to become vegan is ridiculously silly.

AS A MOLECULAR BIOLOGIST & PERSONAL TRAINER, THESE VIDEOS MAKE ME SO HAPPY

pizza and pop tarts for breakfast but if I am eating my vegan pasta... "omg you are eating pasta, so many carbs!" ... how did we get here

@demcomp

4 жыл бұрын

I still remember my dad mentioning his gut at the table when I commented on it.. "This is from years of eating pasta and carbs.." To which i replied, "You've watched me lose all my weight eating pretty much only pasta and carbs.. did I just fool nature? Or perhaps it's all the oil and cheese you've loaded up on?" To which I'm told I'm ganging up on him, or don't know what I'm talking about. Or 'my mother lived to be 94!' 🤦‍♂️

@KnowYourProduce

4 жыл бұрын

People say that when I tell them the amount of beans I eat 😂

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

@@demcomp oil and cheese is right, but its not the animal products, its the industrialised standard American diet. Fats+carbs mixed together. Something that exists in no natural food outside of milk and acorns. Both foods designed for fattening mammals.

@WackoMac

4 жыл бұрын

@@scrapbus9681 it's the animals products, even chicken is high in saturated fat.

@demcomp

4 жыл бұрын

@@scrapbus9681 okay Dr. Lustig.. what about Avocado? Lots of fat and Carbs.. or Durian.. lots of fat and Carbs... Nice try, but all plants have both carbohydrate and fat..

Now I understand how I got fat on a vegan diet. Coconut oil and palm oil. Stop eating that vegan ice cream. Now i'm skinny fat. Now I got to fix it. No worries. I'm still vegan.

@demcomp

4 жыл бұрын

Yup.. but I'm fine where I'm at. Compared to pre vegan.. definitely!

@IizUname

4 жыл бұрын

It's so good 😥

@siphoningblues2975

4 жыл бұрын

Never coconut oil. It's just saturated fat. Try sunflower oil if you must use oil.

@demcomp

4 жыл бұрын

@@siphoningblues2975 all oil is bad.

@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530

4 жыл бұрын

Sunflower oil is one of the worst things you can consume. It is extremely high in omega 6 fats, and that is terrible for your heart.

I hadn’t heard about the role of ceramide and diglyceride in insulin resistance and how saturated fat is the precursor. Thanks for the detailed info on this topic and the graphics to make it easier to understand, plus the pile of puppies.

@sonja4164

4 жыл бұрын

I'd never heard that either. Fascinating stuff right?!

@kathivy

4 жыл бұрын

S O N J A yes! That’s the good stuff that we get from Mic the Vegan 😊

@Ramiromasters

4 жыл бұрын

Still this is not Insulin Resistance, as we all know IR is caused by excess Insulin concentration in the blood for prolonged periods of time. It is interesting that excess lipids can offset the insulin interaction in the body, just like many amino acids contained in everyday foods like coffee can do the same. However, this not groundbreaking and nobody will prevent or cure insulin resistance by going on a low fat diet and quitting coffee... The only way to prevent this disease is to not consume refined carbohydrates.

@TheStruggler101

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ramiromasters Did you watch the video? The Kempner rice diet was able to reverse T2 diabetes (Insulin resistance), and it was comprised mainly of refined carbohydrate. Not a healthy diet by any means, but just goes to show that the mechanism for T2 diabetes doesn't involve carbohydrate, or atleast isn't as big of a factor in the disease compared to saturated fat etc.

@Ramiromasters

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheStruggler101 Again "Insulin resistance is caused by high levels of insulin in the bloodstream for extended periods of time" out of the 3 macronutrients fat, proteins, and carbs, the carbs are the ones who spike insulin the most, however, in order for you to become diabetic, you must eat more than you burn. So if I can use up to 3 bowls of rice per day as fuel, eating a 4th one will lead me towards insulin overproduction, which in turn will lead to insulin resistance. We don't attribute IR to eating steak simply because their insulin signal is very low, over eating steak is physically challenging not many people could do it, yet drinking a Frappuccino and having a cookie is very easy. Eating rice, which is a whole food is better than eating cookies, yet it is still easy to overeat.

One of my relatives’ HbA1C level was 13. Given Glipizide once a day. I suggested her to go plant based and within two weeks her fasting glucose went back to normal so she halved the glipizide dosage. After about 3 months her A1c went to 7! She’s not fully plant based now but she implements plant based food in majority of her meal 🙌🏼

@DrReginaldFinleySr

4 жыл бұрын

That's awesome! Thanks for sharing!

@pentachronic

4 жыл бұрын

Great news. I was prediabetic with an HbA1c of 5.6%. Went vegan, after 2 months it was 5.0% (ie non diabetic). Will update in the future but I don't have the crash after eating now. I still think 5.0% is high and want to get it down to ~4.5%. Dr is very happy with the results.

@radicaledward9486

4 жыл бұрын

Poor girl. You just destroyed her life worse than diabetes

@adhiantos

4 жыл бұрын

@@radicaledward9486 If reducing her A1C level means I have destroyed her life... Perhaps you don't understand diabetes lol

@adhiantos

4 жыл бұрын

@@pentachronic Fantastic! All the best to you :D Oh yes my relative also has high blood pressure and her BP was not as high as usual too after going Plant based

Personally, it's often overweight and/or unhealthy people telling me that carbs are unhealthy.

@3sotericCompassionist1976

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, for sure!

@jan-nn9ix

4 жыл бұрын

Never experienced that

My prayers have been answered! I don't know if you've seen my other comments, but this is exactly the kind of content I've been asking for. Great job yet again.

@lastlime3792

Жыл бұрын

Same logic that killed his baby...Veganism is a mental illness.

Thank you, thank you for bringing this information to my attention; and the way you present it is not only informative but welcomingly comical at times. Keep up the great work you're doing for so many people trying to improve their health by adopting a plant-based diet, myself included!

I love that this study on Adventist vegans comes up soo much because I grew up going to an Adventist church and I remember there were always a big effort from the heads of the church to teach people about good health ❤️ we use to do campaigns like “give up soda for 40 days, and you’ll eventually give up forever”

Became plant based 6 months ago. Live in the Netherlands. I backed myself up with a lot of science because all I hear is that vegans aren’t really accepted in companies. Because I only drink water and don’t eat snacks at parties I was waiting for all the discussions. Prepared myself for all the bullshit people would come up with. Almost all people I talk to listen carefully to why I became vegan and actually understand the logic behind all the science.. my family is slowly changing to mostly whole food plant based and about 4 other friend couples have already changed because of me😅 the Dutch are a becoming a bit more open to this!

@lastlime3792

Жыл бұрын

Today people are openly okay with mental illness veganism. You can eat unhealthy if you want, you can eat a ton of fiber and pesticides if you choose🤮

My sister calls donuts "fat pills". 👍

@DrReginaldFinleySr

4 жыл бұрын

Fat, and Sugar pills. :-)

@potterylady44

4 жыл бұрын

Lolololololol

@justthinking526

3 жыл бұрын

I call them kryptonite fat bombs. Ditching baked goodies all together is a must for me.

I recently sat next to someone who refused potatoes because of carbs, but he drank wine with it. It really is sad that nutrition isn’t taught in schools.

@idontthinkso6172

3 жыл бұрын

wine has sugar lolz

@rachelgoodkind6545

Жыл бұрын

nutrition education damns pharma drug sales.

I had heard that saturated fat is not that healthy but never connected it with diabetes, Thank you for bringing this up.

The Mastering Diabetes duo Robbie & Cyrus are great individuals! They guided me to reversing my type 2 diabetes! Thanks for mentioning them! Great content as always you young genius Mike!!

Love and appreciate your content. Very knowledgeable 🙏🏼❤️🌱

Absolutely agree with this information. My personal experience has proven this to be so. The sad, sad truth is that type 2 diabetes does not need to exist at all.

13:20 lol • Atkins • Paleo • Keto The saga continues

@MictheVegan

4 жыл бұрын

Whole 30, Bulletproof Diet, South Beach Diet...

@evouga13

4 жыл бұрын

Carnivore diet

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

@@MictheVegan IR is all about visceral fat. Lipodystrophic mice are incredibly easy to give diabetes to. They don't have the ability to park energy in fat cells. You can 'cure' insulin resistance in mice with lipodystrophy by.... Transplanting fat into them. Losing weight improves insulin sensitivity. Both vegan diets and keto diets. Visceral adipose tissue (which you didn't mention) has the highest association of any factor with IR. Both vegetarian/vegan/keto diets reduce VAT. I would argue that based on studies, a ketogenic diet is the most effective at reducing VAT and improving insulin resistance. Intra-muscular fat is the symptom of an overloaded storage system, not the cause. *Vegans with low VAT and Meat eaters with low VAT don't have IMF.*

@dubbadubdub82

4 жыл бұрын

You can eat all of these diets low in animal fat people just like to promote their bad habits and justify their high bacon intake JS.

@christophertan3195

4 жыл бұрын

@K Rr yeah cuz processed oil are not good for you. Whole Plants are different

I have been vegan for five months now. I started my journey with your channel!!! You motivated me with science and facts. I am now at BMI 25 so that’s great.

@humanfamilymember

2 жыл бұрын

How?

@RawandCookedVegan

10 ай бұрын

​@@humanfamilymemberisn't it obvious? By reducing or eliminating animal products and eating more plants. It's really not complicated.

@eugenechen8240

10 ай бұрын

Do you feel hungry all the times? How is your skin tone fare?

Love the science and studies you provide in your videos!

yay ! thank you for this ! it blew my mind when Cyrus and Robbie explained finally in a way that I could grasp about fat and insulin resistance. This is a great video and the reminder i needed to help me not slide back into eating cheese …added to everything vegetarian in restaurants etc

i eat this content up every time and send it to family members who will *hopefully* finally listen when presented with the science

Great job, Mic! What a coincidence! We are publishing a video about carbs tomorrow! Thanks for all you do!

Penn Jillette and Kevin Smith both lost a ton of weight and got their health back on track from eating nothing but potatoes.

@maiadraconica6488

4 жыл бұрын

nah fam, clearly potatoes are the devil and the root cause of all evil in this world.

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

And you can lose a tonne of weight eating nothing but fat and protein. Add a lot of fat (either saturated or unsaturated) into an all potato diet and you should prepare to balloon.

@hhancp

4 жыл бұрын

@@scrapbus9681 animal protein is so much more expensive compared to potatoes.

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

@@hhancp yes. But potatoes only don't provide enough protein to retain lean mass. You miss the point. You can lose weight eating only potatoes, only lard, only twinkies, only meat, only sugar or only broccoli. It says nothing useful.

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

@@greensmoothieparty yep. Not enough protein to retain lean mass.

Isn't weird that so many people that quit carbs and eat lots of fat.. Get rid of type 2 diabetes..

Hey Mic! Sent your last two videos in emails to my mom whose husband was told to eat more hamburgers by his doctors for protein ( he has always eaten them so why do they think he is low on protein?) And she is afraid to eat fruit because her blood sugar is high. I swear, she has read about this stuff in the New York Times, which she trusts, and still it won't sink in.

Losing my own fear of carbs (thanks to Brian Turner and Vegan Gains' tips mainly) has really helped me make some, well, vegan gains ever since I started enjoying more sweet potatoes and whole grain bread in my day :))). Thanks for spreading the good word/carbs!

@vegantragedie2480

4 жыл бұрын

It's funny when I replace grain by raw meat and fat I take 14 kilo of muscle. Grain make me underweight.

@ldi1451

4 жыл бұрын

VEGAN TRAGEDIE yea you gained over 30 pounds of pure muscle eating raw meat, and my dad is the pope

@VeganBrainFood

4 жыл бұрын

@@ldi1451 Hahahaha mic drop.

@vegantragedie2480

4 жыл бұрын

@@ldi1451 Pure muscle is a joke. In muscle mass you have fat. No fat no muscle in the natural way.

@ldi1451

4 жыл бұрын

VEGAN TRAGEDIE Well it’s not a joke, it’s called lean muscle. But from what it sounds like is you’re 1. Obviously lying, since your a troll anti vegan, nothing you say can or will be taken serious or as fact, you’re immediately discredited, but you know we like what idiots have to say sometimes 2. You gained mostly water weight and fat with a few pounds of low density muscle. Nice so you did on a literal eating/mental disorder of a diet what 99% of the population is already doing on regular diets, congratulations I suppose?

They're so cute when they're prepusquirtal.

For me the key has been whole foods. Can't do processed carbs (except in very small amounts), but carbs with plenty of fiber don't affect my diabetes--as long as I'm also eating healthfully overall. If I'm eating too much other junk--then my blood sugar will spike and crash with even a small serving of starchy carbs.

@justasbieliauskas

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and you can eat animal products its all about real food. Then people become vegan thay just eat healthier, but in long run vegans start to luck pale and loose muscle and weight. We are omnivores, we need different food.

I watched Neal Barnard talking about this a little while ago and it made so much sense. Thanks for your version Mike!

Great video with a TON of information. Thanks for what you do!

People confuse treating the symptom with treating the cause. Just because someone "fixes" their diabetes symptoms on low carbs doesn't mean they've actually "fixed" their diabetes. -__-

Another great video, Mic! I'm sharing with everyone.

I stopped on carbs and also went lower in fat for a week (Wasn't eating enough calories I know) However I looked the best I had ever looked I'm 28 and made myself look 19 again something about low carb made me feel amazing and made me look better than I ever have

@dragongali2340

Жыл бұрын

FINALLY! this whole comment section is full of mindless sheep who think fruits and carbs are good for us

I was a vegetarian for years and i was overweight even though i exercised regularly, my joints hurt, i had digestive problems, and i was low energy. Ever since i started doing keto, i lost 30 pounds, my joints no longer ache, my digestive problems have subsided and i have more energy. I personally think some people cannot eat a high carb diet and be healthy and i found out the hard way that I'm one of them. I was extremely reluctant to start eating keto because I was very much attached to the vegan/vegetarian ideology but i was miserable and unhealthy and was forced to make a big change. I now source the meat i eat from small local farms and same with fruit and vegetables.

@Itsunclegabby

3 жыл бұрын

So you went from vegetarian, still eating animal products to keto and lost weight. You were likely eating less calories. Now try whole food plant as not based. How can people think fruit and veg are anything but good for you?

@dr.pastrami5272

3 жыл бұрын

@@Itsunclegabby Because they're loaded with sugar and polyphenols. There isn't a plant In existence that's remotely close to the nutritional value that eggs or liver have. They're too busy making harmful oxalates so we won't eat them.

@nelsonartemio4218

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on your transformation.

I volunteer for the experiment with the puppies!! Jokes apart, thank you for the content! My husband has type 2 diabetes and refuses to believe that fat causes diabetes....

@myggggeneration

4 жыл бұрын

He needs to listen to presentations by Cyrus, author, founder of Mastering Diabetes. Cyrus and Robby were on the Rich Roll Podcast on Monday and presented a lot of facts from their book, esp why fat is the cause of Type 2. I recommend listening to it, it was also a lot of fun. (I was a member of their Mastering Diabetes group for a year, their approach works, but after slacking for so many years this is not easy but it's doable and tasty)

@mrarchon6612

4 жыл бұрын

Being fat causes type 2 diabetes. And if you *had* to pick a dietary culprit, it would be... excess energy caused by seed oils and refined grains in the industrialsed diet. Animal products and animal fats have barely moved, which diabetes has skyrocketed.... imgur.com/a/F425rgI

@Skystar777

4 жыл бұрын

We were all told for the last 30 years dietry guidelines to cut out the fat and where are we today 100 million prediabetics. So 100 million people did not follow the guidelines. I think a good proportion cut out the fat and ate low fat processed foods with added sugar and got fat. Its not just the fat. ITs the added sugars added to carbs to make them sweet and addictive. We have far more added sugar in our diet now than what we had 30 to 40 years ago. We also didn't have the fast foods we have today.

@ghostviggen

4 жыл бұрын

paulaaquino If your husband combines fat with processed carbs he will worsen his condition. If he avoids combining them he will reverse his diabetes.

@traveler65

4 жыл бұрын

Rich Rolls podcast Feb. 17th. With Cyrus Khambatta PHD and Robby Barbaro MPH. Interesting 2 hour interview regarding this subject. 👍

Great research and video again as always.

Thank you for you focused research and clear to the point videos.

Suspiciously perfect timing with Saladino's latest debate ;). Good work Mike, Robby and Cyrus!

My mother had a BMI of 20, no high blood pressure, no high/ bad levels of cholesterol, ate a lot of vegetables / fruits and still got diabetes 2. Eating less fat wouldn't help, because she already didn't eat much. We also ate low on animal products, so no our family didn't get shit tons of saturated fat and cholesterol with our diets. Can we PLEASE make a distinction between people with diabetes 2 because they are fat/ unhealthy and people with diabetes 2 that had an other medical reason. It's truly not the same and it also doesn't has the same treatment.

@essohengineeringandmanager6277

3 жыл бұрын

You calculated the quantity of fats she ate? Her food choices will need a better review for one to agree with what you described.

Mic the Vegan: "Un............til................." Dr Greger: "Now?" Mic: "2005"

@eng.miroslavmanahilov1944

4 жыл бұрын

*giggles*

Carbs do not equal *refined* carbs, which is what people seem to be freaking out about.

I'm 53, and WFPB gluten free no oil vegan. My A1C is 4.5. Before I quit oil my A1C was 5.0, which is still low, but backs up the claim that a vegan diet in general will be better for preventing diabetes.

@elainemc4774

4 жыл бұрын

What oil were you using?

@AH-cy4md

4 жыл бұрын

👍yes! I was WFPB vegan, and when I stopped using any oil in my cooking, no vegan margarine either, I lost 10 lbs. if I want to add creaminess, some tahini or nut butter in small amounts does the trick. @first last. all oils are unnecessary and not healthy. They’re highly processed, fiberless, low nutrition ways to add fat. We don’t need oil of any kind. We do need some fats, and whole nuts and seeds provide plenty, along with fiber and nutrition.

@elizabethelias1005

4 жыл бұрын

last organic EVOO. I cooked occasionally with organic coconut oil, maybe a tablespoon a week. Prepared foods like crackers and bread with sunflower and safflower oils. I made my own dressing with EVOO. I was careful about what oils I ate. No soybean and no canola oils. Oh and of course cocoa butter in the small amount of chocolate. Now I eat chocolate with only 2-3 ingredients, no cocoa butter, no oil. Very little though.

@elizabethelias1005

4 жыл бұрын

@@AH-cy4md and avocado.

@AH-cy4md

4 жыл бұрын

Purple Vegan Lady oh yes, avocados are great! 😋

Thanks. Not an entirely new subject for regular watchers of your videos, as you said, or indeed for vegans who are aware but a good fresh look and plenty of new data and new knowledge. I noticed the hexagon at the bottom right, good to have a discreet logo visible right through, it's a good logo. For once the analogy with puppies was not clear at least on first viewing, I'll go back and watch it again. A good video which I shall share.

I watched your two friends on Rich Roll's podcast not too long ago. Fantastic! I was very happy to hear you explain the biomolecular evidence even further. Thank you so much!

Supposedly, Vegans have to meticulously plan every meal, but I don’t. I just eat food not made from animals. Meanwhile, the low carb people that I know are constantly doing carb-math and freaking out about every meal.

@jamesLG1

4 жыл бұрын

Yes it's easy.

@ailinh911

4 жыл бұрын

@French blue8 do you have any vegan nutella alternatives you enjoy? i used to love nutella before going vegan!

@MrBonified66

4 жыл бұрын

And many are paying $$$ for supplements from the people pushing the diet.

@WackoMac

4 жыл бұрын

@@ailinh911 are you in Europe? There are so many alternatives

@old_yeller4251

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrBonified66 What diet?

you're awesome Mike, we love you! :)

I lost 25 kg after going vegan. I'm almost completely happy now with my body weight (BMI of around 24). And the best of it is: It takes no effort at all to hold my weight.

@robinson4228

4 жыл бұрын

I have only lost 2kg after my first six weeks of going vegan (wfpb); my BMI is 26. I've had amazing blood test results (inc. Total Cholesterol down to 139) but I expected more weight to drop off.

@sandyb1184

4 жыл бұрын

@@robinson4228 Be careful with too much bread or nuts in your diet. Including nut butters. Dr. Greger cited one study where eating two apples a day with no other changes can lead to weight lose. Check out his non profit website Nutritionfacts.org as he has been doing a series lately with tips to weight loss. Good luck on your journey to great health!

@robinson4228

4 жыл бұрын

@@sandyb1184 Thank you. I have indeed been eating the foods you caution against. I bought some dried apples earlier after watching Dr Greger's video on how they dramatically lower cholesterol. My LDL is now 79, good but I understand it has to be lower. I have my newly arrived copy of 'How Not to Diet.'

@sandyb1184

4 жыл бұрын

@@robinson4228 Fantastic! You've got this! I wish you all the best!

@toomuchisneverenough4668

4 жыл бұрын

I lost 25kg after removing most plants, a cup of coffee/day is about the only thing from plants. Very easy maintain.

''“In metabolic syndrome, insulin levels are elevated due to cell membrane receptor insensitivity to insulin. This insensitivity is a result of combination of factors that includes an excessive intake of carbohydrates, insufficient fiber, fat and protein, a genetic predisposition and weight gain. Weight gain causes the receptors to lie further apart from each other on the cell surface membrane (the adipose cell, for example, has increased in size), and the sensitivity of receptors seems to be a function of how close they are together. This can precede type 2 diabetes”. I would like to clarify, that the greatest contributor to fat accumulation in the cells is not consumption of fat, but rather over-consumption of simple sugars and quick carbohydrates (polysaccharides that are efficiently metabolized into monosaccharides in the body, as a result they contribute to hyperglycemia).''

@larshader9265

4 жыл бұрын

I basically said the same thing. He is being deliberately dishonest.

@nelsonartemio4218

2 жыл бұрын

Someone who knows what they're talking about! Thank you. Dietary fat =\= body fat.

Right to the point! Brilliant. Thanks again Mic

So why is it that people on Keto are reversing their diabetes? Hmmm 🤔?

@reginalord9345

2 жыл бұрын

Did you not watch the whole video? he answered that question.

Mic, Great video, you make the complicated simple:) Cheers, Rik Spector

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

Too simple. Mic fails to acknowledge that we eat around about the same amount of animal products as 150 years ago, yet we have skyrocking diabetes and they had none. Type 2 diabetes tracks with the standard American diet, not an animal product one.

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

imgur.com/a/KSgRmj1

One mild correction: the Adventists are generally healthier. One of the doctrines of their belief is to respect the body and to treat it well; so the church advocates a whole-food-plant-based diet, exercise, healthy sleep, and other healthy habits. No doubt, vegetarianism is a big contributor to their low mortality.

A high carb, low fat caused my A1C to go from 5.7 to 9. Eating near no carb is what got me off insulin and a normal A1C. I can't eat enough food for a carb count that keeps me off medications.

VEGAN MOTIVATION 2020: I went vegan at 12, not rich or privileged, non vegan family, and still vegan 4 years later. Had no problem building muscle, If I can do it, so can you! Let's leave animal cruelty in the past I'm a fellow vegan KZreadr by the way. Let's get our health back 2020❗

@mikah.6672

4 жыл бұрын

Have you accepted yourself as transgender yet?

@VeganDefinition

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikah.6672 Transgender isn't a thing.

@mikah.6672

4 жыл бұрын

@@VeganDefinition It is, at your age I wasn't aware of many things either. ^^

@VeganDefinition

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikah.6672 F off.

@markpolop5171

4 жыл бұрын

Annabelle D. What’s your point degenerate?

Great info, thanks for sharing! Lets hope eventually people will stop the whole low carb diet bandwagon. BTW, love Doxies images, got 2 cuddled on each side of me right now :)

I have a question for all the vegans regarding fat, carbs and weight gain. When farmers want to fatten up their livestock, what do they use? Do they feed the animals fat? No. They feed the cattle on grains and the pigs are fed corn (technically another grain.) The animals fatten up very quickly on high carb diets. Yet, when fat was tried as a fattening agent, it didn't work. Cows fed on grains often develop severe health problems, including diabetes. They have to be slaughtered soon or they will die of disease. If anyone thinks humans are the one exception to the carb/fat rule, I would love to see any quality studies.

Great video ! Thank you 🙏

Your beard is looking specially glowing today. Also your new setup and everything looks really nice.

@Stoitism

4 жыл бұрын

That because of the filters he uses to make his skin look a healthy colour.

@askyourselfsfather6516

4 жыл бұрын

FarFromTheTrees your opinion is worthless to me.

@lvsoad22

4 жыл бұрын

Ask Yourself's Father he dyes his hair

@askyourselfsfather6516

3 жыл бұрын

@sv3rige stay triggered buddy

@ramikla_146

3 жыл бұрын

Saturated Fat First of all Macros were not accounted for!

I remember watching a review of the tastiest junk foods - and they all had that similar 50/50 ratio of fats to sugars. So, yes, while most junk food is high in sugar, it's important to note most is also similarly high in fats and zero nutritional value. But, yes, people often only focus on the sugar aspect.

@StangspringDK

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend the book, The Hungry Brain. There is a golden ratio of fat and carbs that triggers overeating. Food manufacturers are spending billions in tailoring their products to make us eat more. For me, will carb rich meals trigger a slightly delayed response. I eat too much, since it’s too delicious (homemade sourdough bread, pasta and such). Feels bloated right after. An hour later, I’m craving snacks or more pasta, bread or sweets. So, went hi fat/low carb in february. Lost 20 kg, lowered my bloodpressure to 109/71 (7 day average). Zero cravings and lots of energy. Feeling satiated and no longer looks at the clock at 10, craving for the next meal.

@karlwheatley1244

2 жыл бұрын

@@StangspringDK If you were hungry 1 hour after eating a high carb meal, it's because there wasn't nearly enough fiber.

@StangspringDK

2 жыл бұрын

@@karlwheatley1244 Respectfully disagrees. It would happen, regardless of the source (whole grain bread, whole grain pasta, oats, potatoes, rice (brown or white)). Unless I ate extreme portions, would I look at the clock for the next meal in a few hours.

@karlwheatley1244

2 жыл бұрын

@@StangspringDK Thanks for your reply. I'm not disputing what happened in your body, but pasta and bread are not whole foods and that's not a high-fiber meal (which was my point). Westerners think we're eating a lot of fiber if we hit 30 g a day, but many folks in rural Africa hit 70-110 g a day (as did some/many Paleolithic folks). So a healthy, high-fiber version of that pasta meal might start with a big salad with various chopped/sliced veggies and chickpeas on it, then the pasta gets topped with a sizable portion of lentils. That's a ton more fiber and protein, and there's no way your stomach will be growling an hour later. Take care.

@StangspringDK

2 жыл бұрын

@@karlwheatley1244 I guess that “feeling full” can be a matter of volume, rather than being satiated. Our primary need is protein and energy and not volume, though volume can be interpreted as “had enough”. I know from personal experience, that volume is addictive.

Wow your videos are too good! Also LOLed for five minutes @ 11:42 😂

Superb, Mike.

Wish I had known this or had been told this by my doctor and a dietitian that told me to eat low carb high protein diet...well that is what I did for years wondering why my blood sugar was elevated all the time!!! Well fast forward to today..I am on dialysis because of that diet!! I have now changed my lifestyle completely and my bloodwork is quickly becoming normal. That's another thing they tell you to watch your potassium which is naturally found in healthy fruits and vegetables...well that is a lie too....that is what is healing my kidneys and I feel great...I am waiting on bloodwork to be drawn to check my kidney function soon...I plead with everyone that thinks that this is a healthy way to eat think again!

@MindVersusMisery

4 жыл бұрын

You should sue them for misinforming you.

@Minnie11chula

3 жыл бұрын

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 So crazy - I have always felt dietitians to be the most ill informed when it comes to research regarding nutrition that is not even new (my Mom heard about the evil of hydrogenated oils, preservatives & colorants in the 80’s from listening to a doctor’s radio show.)

Thanks for the video, Mic - I knew about the basics of insulin resistance but it was awesome to hear more about the mechanism and research.

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

Try this one for a completely different perspective... kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJhss6h9ZavaYZs.html&vl=en

Excellent video!!

You were talked about on Rich Roll podcast

@MictheVegan

4 жыл бұрын

Love him

Thank you so much for covering this, as a t1 diabetic I get so bothered when people recommend the keto diet for diabetes. My vegan diet works great, especially when I stick to whole foods! I do wish you had put type 2 in the title though, because there’s still so much misinformation about type 1 diabetes and the title makes it sound like all diabetes is caused by insulin resistance, which isn’t true.

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

Aubrey, you seem like a nice person, so realise that there are people successfully treating TD1 on a ketogenic diet. There are a number of case studies now. Look up Dr Bernstein.

@TheMellyfosho

4 жыл бұрын

Do you still have to take insulin eating a plant based diet? There are people who have been able to reverse type two diabetes and no longer require taking insulin through a ketogenic diet

@GamesonQ

4 жыл бұрын

@@scrapbus9681 It's bandaid. So you can treat it also with wfpb diet and lower your insulin dose. Why do ketogenic diet when you can eat delicious fruits and bread and live?

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

@@GamesonQ or you could eat a ketogenic diet, completely come off insulin and live a normal happy life. I'm fascinated by the science, and what it can tell us about root causes.

@GamesonQ

4 жыл бұрын

@@scrapbus9681 Not if you are type 1 diabetic

Thanks for the help on my biology test coming up! I really appreciate the graphics and scientific terms. Literally helped me understand intramyocellular lipids better!

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

Try this presentation and tell me what you find more compelling. I have my view, but genuinely interested... kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJhss6h9ZavaYZs.html&vl=en

Love the quote from the book! :-D

Our work is offering a program called Virta to reverse diabetes and it is suggesting a keto low carb diet with tons of animal fats 😟

"I'm talking about whole carbs..." "like whole wheat pasta" ...shows whole wheat buns... "and sweet potato" ... shows regular potatoes .... "and whole fruits"... shows a bunch of lemons 😂. Sorry, i found these kinda mismatching images hilarious. Otherwise awesome video and a perfect summary you can send to people that still think carbs are the devil.

@l21n18

4 жыл бұрын

Miss Oats lemons are whole fruits

@missoats8731

4 жыл бұрын

@@l21n18 sure, but not exactly the first thing you would think about and nothing you would typically eat a lot of in its whole form. I just thought it was a strange choice of images.

@l21n18

4 жыл бұрын

Miss Oats well some varieties aren’t very tart, I’ve put whole lemons and limes in smoothies not as good as just eating them straight but better then squeezing a small amount of juice and discarding the rest of a perfectly good fruit

The hard part is actually convincing people to give up from the animal products, even with the massive scientific evidence of the benefits of a plant-based diet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@rbe6963

2 жыл бұрын

Why the F.. do you care???

Excellent information. Thanks for posting this. 💯💯💯💯💯

Excellent video! Thank you for opening people’s eyes and telling them like it is! ❤️

At my work, Keto is growing increasingly popular. I just feel bad since they might lose weight, but they are preparing their bodies to a milestone of health problems. One coworker in particular literally just eats meat and cheese

@ericaholmes8398

4 жыл бұрын

@Ed La Haha! *Scurvy joins the chat*

@Itsunclegabby

4 жыл бұрын

My dietitian coworker is doing keto. Looks like he's got a soggy diaper on when he walks. I don't know if it's the constipation, the inflammation, or perhaps he really is wearing a diaper.

@alanredversangel

4 жыл бұрын

Tell them that's not keto.

@shivo4659

4 жыл бұрын

I know, right? Apparently they don't need fibre 😆

@ghostviggen

4 жыл бұрын

Erica Holmes What health problems? If you lose weight you actually improve your health.

*me eating icecream while watching this* Me: I’m sooo healthy 😎

@HiddenStr3ngth

4 жыл бұрын

Making ice cream from frozen fruit is pretty healthy i'd say. And easy if you have a food processor.

@sandyb1184

4 жыл бұрын

@@HiddenStr3ngth YES, i blend frozen bananas with frozen mango and sometimes frozen blueberries as well, so delicious and healthy! Ice cream is mostly chemicals and solidifiers, and of course, cruel.

@vfran838

4 жыл бұрын

Just like the economy doesn't tank overnight - it takes time to build up - as does your body. While you are eating your ice cream all the lipids are building and building in your body. Maybe 20 years later you will have problems. Enjoy your ice cream

@Ramiromasters

4 жыл бұрын

@@HiddenStr3ngth Except for the part where fruit ages you Mitochondria...

Just listened to those guys on Rich Roll’s podcast. I’m glad you provided visuals for what they spoke about...super interesting and a great tidbit for speaking to people who are against carbs.

Thanks for your great work, Mic! One question: If you consume too many carbs, they are converted into fat as well, right? Is that saturated fat? Maybe you can explain that mechanism, thanks in advance!

@akhenaph

4 жыл бұрын

Same thing I was thinking. Then carbs become fat, fat blocks insuline, cell don't consume carbs and keep on getting really fat

@tillrenger6815

4 жыл бұрын

Obesity itself is one major risk factor for diabetes type 2. Fat people don't have more fat cells, they are just filled up by more and more fat. At some point they constantly spill over and elevate blood fat levels and cause insulin resistance. So, yes, carbs can indirectly cause diabetes type 2 by making people fat. But so can any macronutrient. Of course, simple carbs promote obesity, but whole carbs do not. Does that answer your question?

@DrReginaldFinleySr

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Life, excess sugars are shuttled to the liver to turn that sugar into glycogen. Too much gets stored as fat. Excess fats get absorbed by other cells throughout the body. Adipose tissue stores saturated and unsaturated fats. Visceral fatty tissue (fat around the belly) has more unsaturated fats but there is enough saturated that it is still very gelatinous. Remember, fats also tend to hold onto toxic compounds which is another motivator for others to shed those pounds. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170111184102.htm

@scrapbus9681

4 жыл бұрын

@@DrReginaldFinleySr finally, some people talking sense. Visceral Adipose tissue is the most highly associated of any factors. Don't get VAT... You don't get T2D. What diets are good at reducing Vat? Vegan, vegetarian, keto.... Anything but the Standard American Diet. People throughout the world consume high amounts of animal products, both now and historically. But type 2 diabetes is a modern Western disease which tracks with the industrialised Western diet.

@sueharrison6718

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The number one cause of type two is calorie excess and over full fat cells. The Newcastle study done in last few years showed consistent reversal of type two with a ten percent or greater drop in body weight in all except those who had diabetes for many years. Not all those keto dieters are lying about their improvements. If it dropped their BMI the reversal could be real. The other problem is lack of movement in our modern lives. Regular running or other full on cardio or even a brisk walk will improve insulin sensitivity. Age is also a factor with the drop in NAD. It’s not helpful to simplify the issues and then claim it’s all just down to eating beef. If the vegan community keep doing this and it flies in the face of real,life experience it is not helping the cause.

Great stuff Mic as always and sprinkled with your famous humor, huge respect! I was waiting for you to get a knock at this as I was reading and watching stuff recently about diabetes as it is so wide spread (I am not diabetic BTW he he) and it has a ton of implications and I just want to get it right so that I don't go the wrong way. Thanks for the palm oil explanation, I will stay away from that crap as much as possible. My kids love some plant based cheese here and there but they love some cheaper brand (not that many options here in Serbia) that contains palm oil so clearly the cheese conversation goes to occasional coconut oil based more expensive brand. I need to look into the palm oil (I guess you have tackled it already, gotta check), as it is widely used in processed foods. cheers

Great information thank you

Hey Mic, don't know if it's just me, but your link for the article about skeletal muscles taking up FFAs is telling me the article can not be found. On the other hand, great presentation!

Great video Mic. Keep up the good work. You're an inspiration and I learn so much from youl.

@KarmenD-ce5re

2 ай бұрын

LOL!!! F O O L !! !!

On a personal level I would enjoy a diet science vid for sleep and depression related issues.

@DrReginaldFinleySr

4 жыл бұрын

NutritionFacts has some good videos about this. Search for sleep and/or depression. nutritionfacts.org/

@FloydFreud

4 жыл бұрын

I'd be depressed too, if I had a kid like Isaac.

@askyourselfsfather6516

4 жыл бұрын

Floyd Freud nice

@FloydFreud

4 жыл бұрын

@Steroid, you started out strong, but the 'roids obviously addled your brain when you typed that mess of a second sentence.

Hi Mike! Thank you for your work. Just wanted to report, at least 5 links to sources in video description are not working.

Great Video thank You for sharing, love, Diana Lipski 💕

Please tell me more about how a diet of fruit and Oreos has reversed your diabetes.

I eat two bowls of Shredded Wheat cereal every day. I ate three a day when I used to burn more calories from a job I had. My BMI is always between 21.5 to 22.5. I am at a no risk of having diabetes, I have good blood pressure levels, good LDL and HDL levels, etc., etc. What I really don't like is everyone telling me I am going to be overweight, I'm not getting enough nutrients, blah blah blah and then when I'm proving them wrong they act like I'm acting holier than thou.

Also, maybe one solution is for people to eat more foods that lower sugar levels with their meals . Some foods that lower sugar levels are cinnamon, nopal, prickly pear, chayotes, green tea, black tea, onions, garlic, chiles and many others.

350,000 years of eating the fattest animals we could find and until 90 years ago diabetes was almost unheard of! The specialities of cardiologist didn’t exist!

I tried a whole food plant based diet for my grandma she has diabetes type 2 over 40 years now after several days the values went back and even the high blood pressure she even could eat fruits the only fat source I gave her were 3 tee spoons of peanut butter in her food or smoothies, just find healthy low fat healthy meals and eat fresh green smoothies(which work for you) . unfortunately she went back to a normal diet but here u go it works

What about human breast milk? It's high in fat, relatively low carb, and loaded with saturated fat and cholesterol. Are we giving babies diabetes with breast milk?

@yingyang1008

4 жыл бұрын

Don't expect an answer to that question - you're way too logical and interested in truth for folks round here

@Rummageification

4 жыл бұрын

Have you seen how fast a baby grows? Breast milk has everything a "baby" needs. There is no adult milk for a reason.

@yingyang1008

4 жыл бұрын

@@Rummageification are you saying it suddenly changes from being the perfect food to dangerous?

@Rummageification

4 жыл бұрын

​@@yingyang1008 Do we "suddenly" change from babies to adults?

@Rummageification

4 жыл бұрын

"dangerous" is another dramatic term (are you ok?). High fat and cholesterol are no longer necessary

Its well known vegans have high triglycerides which by your own admission and references triglycerides are the number one cause of insulin resistance.

Yes, Mic is awesome!

Kemptner was an elimination diet. It works for many of the reasons the carnivore diet works. A bunch of things that cause the kidneys harm are eliminated. In particular carbohydrate binding proteins and dairy. Kempner s diet was also super low calorie. This, incidentally, is something that 7th day adventists and Okinawan people share in common with other blue zone people (along with their generally limited consumption of red meats and sometimes limiting fish).

@blissprofessor4807

4 жыл бұрын

Super low calorie? Really? Source please.

@gwaaiedenshaw8310

4 жыл бұрын

Mighty Magine Kempner et al

@blissprofessor4807

4 жыл бұрын

@@gwaaiedenshaw8310 Yeah, II checked and all I see is 2000-2400 calories a day. As far as I know that is not "super low calorie".

@gwaaiedenshaw8310

4 жыл бұрын

Mighty Magine if you drill in a bit, the average intake of rice, 250 grams.(this was most of their calories-850) and about 100 grams of sugar (387 calories) with a minimum of thier calories coming from fruit (no numbers for this, but to be generous I will say just less than sugar tho in was likely half or less, but 300 calories) That adds up to 1537 (I think... maths :/) There may be an abstract or something that says an average of 2000 (or 2400) calories, because people who were underweight were fed more calories (to keep them alive). Maybe somebody took the hugest and lowest and averaged them? I was being a bit hyperbolic when I said ‘super’ low calorie. Low calorie would have sufficed. It is pretty much the standard American diet minus the Protien. And the standard American diet is not being held up as some golden standard paradigm of how to eat.