Myke was talking like Eminem was in the Room😂

@blackkn1ght

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, we know em watches everything, so who knows? dehh isn't that small unknown brand now. Major rappers and publishers know about them.

@Shaolinmike1994

3 жыл бұрын

@@blackkn1ght Royce knows about them, so eminem definitely has come across them at least once.

@96god2

3 жыл бұрын

He's scared of eminem 🤣

@martimlacerda9748

3 жыл бұрын

@@Shaolinmike1994 probably not

imagine having alchemist right there and you don't make an entire project with him.

@Armando316

3 жыл бұрын

Em desperately needs better beats. His production has been stale for years and nobody wants to admit it. An album with Alchemist would be a great move for Em.

@walid2500

3 жыл бұрын

@@Armando316 i liked the Dre type beat on this album she loves me ,the last one, guns blazing i also liked higher and favorite bitch , plus if your take the side A the last 4 that are produced by the aftermath team are pretty good imo and idk if you guys know about this but stepdad in side A is co produced by alchemist so what you guys thought about that one

@julien9602

3 жыл бұрын

I don't get it to this day. 8 tracks, no fillers, would be a breath of fresh air for Em'.

@romaretaylor9953

3 жыл бұрын

@@julien9602 8 tracks isn’t an album fam

@olschoolTonyCarter

3 жыл бұрын

@@romaretaylor9953 modern-day it is.

Watching DEHH turn into a bunch of old dudes just sittin around and shootin the shit is genuinely one of the best things on KZread

@Jus-Tin

3 жыл бұрын

Then you will love ITMSO even more. They talk about other stuff besides hip hop too. It's been my main podcast since the first episode.

@skabzemortal

9 ай бұрын

True...as a young rapper this how I'd like to age

"Damn, that's cap" - Myke C-Town

@bigjohnboatright3811

3 жыл бұрын

I started dying when he said that! 😂😭😭😭

@strangerde2709

3 жыл бұрын

surprised the shit outta me

@jordan12118

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@CHarr1991

3 жыл бұрын

legend

@kweefsweat5628

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

I appreciate that Myke steered the tone of this review towards constructive criticism.

@AsterisqBeats

3 жыл бұрын

Foreal, Em is so close to making good music but misses the mark. He needs to figure out why he's making music and go from there.

@JohnSmith-ry7ot

3 жыл бұрын

@@AsterisqBeats he's trying to pander to the current scene, that's his problem. When I first heard people trashing Revival (before I listened to it), I was like: nah, it can't be that bad and then I listened to it. It was horrific. Some of the mumble rapper flows that Eminem was trying to incorporate unironically in some of the songs on that project were horrible. He then tried to play it out like he was mocking them but c'mon bro... We're not stupid, we know what you tried to do.

@iceyroo

3 жыл бұрын

@@socialoutcastentertainment95 you should, great songs

@raykincaid684

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed.....this was the most accurate critique Ive heard in a long time .

@iceyroo

3 жыл бұрын

@@raykincaid684 I think they were still over critical

Damn Myke out here giving fractions for the best tracks 😂

@alfonsillo18

3 жыл бұрын

That shit was so funny lmao my man was struggling to find positives

@TheeDevilWearsPrada

3 жыл бұрын

Album was whack

"If Eminem had a ghostwriter I would like this a lot more" is one of the most savage things I've heard.

@The-Endo-SymArmor

4 ай бұрын

He needs one at this point

Damn this album really left these guys piss pissedofferson

@Kiki-xx3fj

3 жыл бұрын

Lol 😂

@HipHopTheology

3 жыл бұрын

😭😂😂😂

@johanneazcuy9997

3 жыл бұрын

I'm fucking dying 🤣🤣

@nothingnew5289

2 жыл бұрын

These niggas always get in their feels when talking bout em lol especially bro on the far left

@Itachi_Uchiha___

5 ай бұрын

That was corny af

I think part of the reason he focuses on his delivery more than his substance is because he has nothing to rap about anymore. He just sits in his mansion all day and nothing goes on in his life like back when he was younger. If he made a concept album it would make it a lot easier on him to make meaningful songs.

@beinerthchitivamachado874

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely bro. Em just needs to focus on making good music, not just go crazy lyrical.

@devzeppilin

3 жыл бұрын

Revival was a concept album. He needs more than that, he has to figure it out though.

@GQFJB

3 жыл бұрын

@@devzeppilin if Revival was a concept album, that was a very choppy Concept

@gkay8889

3 жыл бұрын

But his delivery is bad too

@gkay8889

3 жыл бұрын

@@beinerthchitivamachado874 he doesnt go crazy lyrical , he just rhymes a lot with no meaning

Em switched to punchline during Recovery I think. I felt like he was trying to compete with the buzz around Lil Wayne

@hoodiemike210

3 жыл бұрын

hmm that may be true .. that album had a bunch of crazy punchlines.. i think thsts why i liked it so much

@blackkn1ght

3 жыл бұрын

Man, I blame Recovery for all the bad habits that Eminem fell in to. I wish Relapse was received better from the butthurt press, so he didn't have to make recovery.

@EZ95

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like you hit it on the head with this because i think when he had to "relearn" how to rhyme he looked at wayne too closely.

@meganklobchar7014

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!!! I have been saying this for years. Lil wayne changed rap I don't care what anyone says . Rap was never about crazy metaphores non stop. Wayne came in doing that so well. His metaphores were fire and he was huge. He was a feature on everyones song. His content wash mainly all about pussy and he just used a million different metaphores to say it. Then Eminem came back trying to do what wayne was doing and then he became obesssesd with it and word play making it become this big word exercise for people to focus on and dissect . They Every one got obesssesd with bars. I hate it lol I like the stories in rap then relatable stuff with a few bars.

@davereback6787

3 жыл бұрын

He always had some of that...he came up as a battle rapper he's just od'ing with the corny punches...and he knows they're corny but he likes doing them for some strange ass reason. Like no one on earth will convince me that Em thinks "asking me where my shin ends...it down right below knee" is a bar...like the man can write punches "when I pull it surprise (Pulitzer Prize), like Kendrick Lamar...."It's sorta like Medusa that's how you stay ahead of snakes" I think he gets stuck in a syllable scheme and any punchline he can think of that fits he goes with...even when he knows its corny

Em made the switch to punchline flow in the time between relapse and recovery. Relapse was pretty punchline free and was straight lyricism with a dark concept. People trashed it and then Em saw lil wayne popping off who was known for his punchlines. Then Recovery came and he started down the path of punchline bars

@johnsondailysports1341

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@OurFoundingLiars

Жыл бұрын

Never thought of it like that, there’s truth to it

@Jus-Tin

Жыл бұрын

@@OurFoundingLiars In interviews, he also always compliments the way wayne uses punchlines and stuff.

@TheKyd-td7fx

Жыл бұрын

He desperately needs to return to straight lyricism whether in the Relapse-Shady horror concept form or the more poetic Nas-esque form of an Eminem Show/8 Mile era. And then pick his punches wisely, honestly. Punchline flows are bound to get corny unless your ability with them is in a special tier like a Big L, Lord Finesse, or Lloyd Banks where you're consistently coming with back to back haymakers that hit well. Problem with Em's stuff is that most of them don't but attempts at them take up a huge portion of his lyrical repertoire now unfortunately. That's at least how I see it

@Armando316

Жыл бұрын

@@TheKyd-td7fx I just think Em isn’t very good at punch lines. Like you mentioned Big L and Lord Finesse, two punch line KINGS, who when they delivered a punch line it HIT hard. Em’s are just corny and weak, I feel. And this isn’t even getting into the bad beats and horrible hooks that accompany all his albums now.

It's like a weird mirror universe where Mike is trying to find positives and Feefo is just being a straight-up savage...

"These bars are like Covid y'all gotta stay at least 6 feet away" Myke got me dead 💀💀💀

@olschoolTonyCarter

3 жыл бұрын

No more covid 6 feet bars please!! Lol

If I'm being honest, a lot of people previously told that Em was pandering to what his audience wanted, but if ANYTHING, from this B Side especially, it seemed like he was doing it for himself and doing what made him happy, which I think is dope

@flygod916

3 жыл бұрын

Dope in concept but i didn't care for it but if it's making him happy then fine I mean it is a b sides it's basically just a extended album

@baptista6191

3 жыл бұрын

@@flygod916 Yeah true. I personally enjoyed it but I can see why it's not everyone's cup of tea

@jessiesrodah133

3 жыл бұрын

bro if you are doing the music for yourself then why release it?

@baptista6191

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessiesrodah133 I mean that's up to Em really. He's making music that he enjoys and he thinks it's good, so he puts it out. Despite some people disliking it, there's some that do, so I see no problem there

@blueface9348

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessiesrodah133 because his shit is still selling & doing big numbers and he can go tour with it

Myke got right, it seems that Eminem thinks that his ability to complexly rhyme, is more important than the words being put together thoughtfully and the pictures that he paints with his syntax

@shadyboy5090

3 жыл бұрын

Thats funny all i heard was dope shit on this album

@cudizzle147

3 жыл бұрын

@@shadyboy5090 Interesting. What were your thoughts about his previous releases in the last few years? Just curious.

@controversialmann5345

3 жыл бұрын

@@cudizzle147 I only disliked 4 songs on these two discs and they were all on side a. I think Em is havin fun at this point doin what he loves fuck what these idiots think they can have there opinion. I got what i asked dope beats and flows and the hooks were catchy. I feel if u dont fit the demagraphic ur gonna hate it but if u do its amazing. Shit really helped me thru shit. I thought side b stuck to the vibe more and i like how em didnt sing much on it. The corny lines i expect and i laugh knowin idiots will take it serious

@cudizzle147

3 жыл бұрын

@@controversialmann5345 Appreciate your response. I personally am not the biggest Em fan post like Recovery, but still respect his overall ability as an MC. I couldn't make it through this at all. Discombobulated was pretty decent though.

@AndreGriffiths1

3 жыл бұрын

Nah he knows. He always brags about the fact that he wrote Stan. The problem is Eminem has nothing interesting to write about and outside of that he hasn't evolved past punchline rap. Now that he's older they've become dad jokes. Eminem was more edgy than cool... kind of like Sonic the Hedgehog. I LOVE Sonic the Hedgehog... but wasn't that shit gross in Sonic 2006 when he kissed a human? That's how I feel when Eminem writes a love jam. I can't stand Drake, but he knows the right people to steal his swag from. Eminem is lacking swag. The cool factor is gone. And just like Sonic, I love Em.... but facts are facts

"Alright" took Kendrick 6 months+ to put together. Eminem has released 50+ songs in 2 years while also trying to put clever punchlines/bars in them. He really needs time on his next album.

@PaulYordan

3 жыл бұрын

He took for 4 years to drop Revival...

@jeremiah2717

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulYordan he revealed he was working on Revival after Campaign Speech (2016). Revival was a big letdown but he's been improving since then. He dropped Kamikaze 7/8 months later. And he didn't start working on it immediately after releasing Revival. Eminem has found his spark again in my opinion. There were bad songs and they were great songs on Music to be murdered by. I enjoyed both sides. He needs time. There was a drive/drives in 1999-2002. It's no longer there.

@noclipp

3 жыл бұрын

Kendrick did all his verses for dre's Compton soundtrack in a few hours. Too much time can also be a problem.

@jeremiah2717

3 жыл бұрын

@@noclipp Eminem does that too, often... you don't understand. Zeus was recorded in hours, Love game ft Kendrick, both verses written in minutes and recorded in hours. Eminem is finding trouble putting out a great body of work, not just the singles, the album as a whole. I can make a 16/17 tracked fire album out of Kamikaze and MTBMB. I don't fully understand but Dre picked the beats, right? And the hooks? He was in 2 or 3 songs I think, right? No apologies is considered to be a very good song, it was released in 2006. As I understand it, he just raps. No punchlines, no... No most of the things he does now. As I said, he records so many songs, tries to put bars/punchlines/schemes in almost every part. Some are good and some are cringe. Kendrick doesn't do that much. He had feature verses last year and they're both very good. Personally, I want him to release as much album as he can release every year 😶

@noclipp

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeremiah2717 lol okay

The Eminem and Kid Cudi collab is how Em should be rapping like. Calm and with purpose.

@SaulBadmon

3 жыл бұрын

Completely agree, that felt like such a mature and focused Em and the verse is very replayable.

@emgo-at7398

3 жыл бұрын

@@SaulBadmon eminem wasn't even going super lyrical on that one. Plus this whole album got chill sounds man

@davereback6787

3 жыл бұрын

Fat Joe verse too.

@SaulBadmon

3 жыл бұрын

@@emgo-at7398 it’s overdone man. The Cudi joint was the perfect happy medium modern Eminem, scrolling thru topics with ease.

@pjbpiano

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine deciding how a rapper who's been in the game for 30 years should rap.

People commenting without even watching the full video, including me lol

@cesheph

3 жыл бұрын

Im just preparing for the hate to flow through us 🤣 already. I already expect it.🤣 just started. Ok they couldn't even say the title without even struggling lol like the name....the name took you out 🤣🤣

@fakenamerealchungus9851

3 жыл бұрын

Haven't listened to the album, haven't watched the video, literally two minutes, gonna voice my opinion anyway

@Yawdan

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@QDRox

3 жыл бұрын

including me

@badRandy2100

3 жыл бұрын

Are you new?

Now I understand why Andre 3000 just pops up on a song or 2 and refuses to drop an album, maybe Em should think about doing the same thing.

@topbackpodcast2615

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@ibrahimadula5359

3 жыл бұрын

Nah my nigga 3000 would spazz, em has the skill but his flow hurts me that shit gets annoying fast.

@dangelo4671

3 жыл бұрын

Em has been doing better in features then in his own albums. I like his verse on the fat joe song, the kid cudi song and big Sean’s song so I expected more from him on this album.

@TheAtoozofficial

3 жыл бұрын

@@ibrahimadula5359 if you understand this shit, you don't say "his flow" because Em got a lot of flow's ....

@MrShaiya96

3 жыл бұрын

@@ibrahimadula5359 there's nothing wrong with his flow. lol, that's such a nitpick. its what's he's saying and the punchlines that are the problem.

"spam sandwich on a gold plate" is really the most perfect analogy i've heard for em's recent music

Myke saved this review. It’s nice when people look at the big picture of it and think critically about what’s happening vs just writing it off as trash. Em has skills that very few, if any, rappers have. He just doesn’t take his own music all that serious these days and says a lot of bullshit.

@Yamesx

2 жыл бұрын

Facts🤝

@gkay8889

2 жыл бұрын

He is not the most skilled chill , but he has skills that can’t incorporate right

@wizard932

2 жыл бұрын

no mention of discombobulated tho

@Jus-Tin

Жыл бұрын

That is the problem. Eminem doesn't take his craft seriously anymore, says a bumch of bullshit then gets angry when people criticize him for it.

@Armando316

Жыл бұрын

@@Jus-Tin I think Em Just doesn’t have anything to talk about anymore. He’s also been clearly affected by the criticism directed at him, and I think the passion for the art is no longer there.

So between this and the Cudi review, Myke is the only one that seems to be liking anything. Gonna be a interesting year

@aiden359

3 жыл бұрын

Myke said it was “fucking mediocre” 😂

@kevthepoet

3 жыл бұрын

Liking anything Em or Cudi... Stan.

@itstaemonson

3 жыл бұрын

For sure

@shankieinthefridge

3 жыл бұрын

12:23 Myke: "It's not a good album. It's painfully mediocre." If that's liking something, the stuff he hates must be really terrible.

@blackkn1ght

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, I think he meant its painfully mediocre for em. He did mention that if this was any other rapper, this would have been considered a really good album.

Em is a weirdo when it comes to production. He always has to tinker with a beat to suit his needs. He did that with the Conway song. The dude had Alchemist by his side all these years, used him as a DJ but not as a producer. He finally does something with Premo, but only for scratches. Em definitely on the spectrum.

@zenoevol5991

3 жыл бұрын

I personally like Book Of Rhymes but I WANTED that to be a Preemo beat SOOOOO BAD G. I also say the same thing about Alchemist. You FINALLY pull him in for a song and its EASILY one of your WORST songs on Side A and Im sorry but that beat was TERRIBLE coming from Alchemist who is TOP TIER TOP NOTCH producer 🤷🏻‍♂️ Em needs to get Alchemist to produce "Killing Spree" type beats and just SPAZZ on every one. Plain and simple 👌🏼🔥

@anokacity

3 жыл бұрын

@@zenoevol5991 What song was that?

@zenoevol5991

3 жыл бұрын

@@anokacity Killing Spree? Its a song by a MC named Defari produced by Alchemist. That beat is AMAZING go check it out! But THOSE the types of beats that Alchemist need to be making for Em and say "JUST SPAZZ" 👌🏼💯

@beinerthchitivamachado874

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Em is a complete weirdo, he should be collabing with nothing but legends, HE'S LITERALLY A LEGEND HIMSELF.

@blueface9348

3 жыл бұрын

@@zenoevol5991 man 1999 Eminem would've murdered that killing spree beat. i don't think he can flow over beats like that anymore, he lost his nasally voice & his laid back flow

Bruh this was the best beat selection on an Em album since Relapse. All the beat switches was fire.

@jaynelson1762

3 жыл бұрын

Yep the only beat I didn’t really like was higher and it isn’t even that bad.

@jonatanoderso

3 жыл бұрын

I really thought to myself: is my ear that off? When I watched this The beats were good.

@remsiiig4537

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm... i wouldn't go that far... BUT the Discombobulated joint was fire though.

@anokacity

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonatanoderso You that type of production isn't their style anyways.

@dj_matanzaa

3 жыл бұрын

100%. They musta been skipping the tracks

Goddamn, I thought I was the only one let down by the fact that Em didn't rap on a Premo beat

@peterbadami4872

3 жыл бұрын

The fact that Eminem heard that trap beat and was like "i should get preemo on this!" shows that he should let another producer (dr.dre, Mr. Porter, alchemist, or even royce) make decisions.

@brandons2640

3 жыл бұрын

we need em on a rza, q tip, madlib, pete rock beat

@andisa9599

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@beinerthchitivamachado874

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterbadami4872 LMAOOOO, you're right on that one.

@beinerthchitivamachado874

3 жыл бұрын

That was such a fucking tease.

This whole review is really making my question my sense of humor.

I personally feel that when Eminem came back from hiatus and dropped Relapse, he received a lot of back lash from using those accents...and from that point on he has been trying to reinvent himself while constantly receiving backlash and it has fukd with him mentally....he went from accents to yelling, to yelling/choppy battlerap delivery to speed rapping to not yelling/battlerap schemes and looking back on the timeline, when he started incorporating that battle rap type of writing is when his actual lyrics started declining drastically. It's like he's trying TOO hard to find punchlines that fit the syllable pattern instead of actually saying something that holds weight.

@zenoevol5991

3 жыл бұрын

I don't get why people hated on that album I personally enjoy it and I think the accents are funny 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

@rashawnjordan1307

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@godsmotheroffical

3 жыл бұрын

@@zenoevol5991 people love relapse now but it was shitted on when it came out

@PocketAces17

3 жыл бұрын

But they just aren't getting worse, I don't understand your point of view unless you simply haven't properly listened to his new projects or a lot of his bars fly over your head. If simple complexity and deeper meaning is what makes lyrics appear good to you then yes I'd agree he does way less of that. But theres countless bars and schemes he does which are like quadruple entendres.

@rashawnjordan1307

3 жыл бұрын

@@godsmotheroffical thats how it goes... I hated Yezzus with a burning passion but now... its alright lol

"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you"- Green Goblin

Came for this with the quickness

@Elguapodelfuego

3 жыл бұрын

That's what she said

@SPACECOWBOY705

3 жыл бұрын

Off the bat like covid

Y’all are seriously my favorite channel on KZread. It’s always a good day when you upload!

BOLDY JAMES - MANGER ON MCNICHOLS

@campfire247

3 жыл бұрын

that was the best album boldy released last year

@malcolmhinds7656

3 жыл бұрын

This!!!!! album was so good

@GNZLZ666

3 жыл бұрын

@@malcolmhinds7656 Agreed. It took me a couple of listens but after it finally clicked I have to say it’s his best work.

@joeyrivers8845

3 жыл бұрын

we need it

@ajmk2845

3 жыл бұрын

Bet ima check this

Zeus, Discombobulated, Alfred’s Theme, and Book of Rhymes

@BlackstreetBoys2Men

3 жыл бұрын

How did no one say Zeus ?

@Shaolinmike1994

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlackstreetBoys2Men same thing with side A. They didn’t even talk about no regrets or lock it up. I was shocked...well they actually made fun of the Don toliver hook.

@Esco2k6

3 жыл бұрын

It’s called they just hate on Eminem

@valiyevyusif1713

3 жыл бұрын

@@Esco2k6 Nah man if anything they are some of the only social media pundits remotely giving Em his flowers

Mike's breakdown was the most unbiased accurate breakdown out of everyone

@edwardpolenzani1039

3 жыл бұрын

@Eli Cris out of everyone in the dehh group? How was he not? He was analytical and broke it down without getting emotional or letting his own opinions affect it. He even admitted he personally didn’t really like it but just reviewed it on an objective scale.

@edwardpolenzani1039

3 жыл бұрын

@Eli Cris O I agree with you on that aspect. I didn't say I agree with EVERYTHING Myke said. I think he's right as far as his analysis of Em's lyrics right now. But when he said this was better than Music to Be Murdered By pt. 1 I was like "HUH??". Yea, definitely disagree with him there. The first Music to Be Murdered By had a couple tracks that were misses but also had a lot of good tracks to me.

I think em focuses on the technical aspect before writing a good song and because if this he abuses and forces syllables. He has shown that he can write a good song such as the Darkness, but this so few and far between.

@controversialmann5345

3 жыл бұрын

Bro the overly lyrical shit id say is shady xv era Revival so much forced shit kinda on kamikaze but i think hes more well rounded than ever on side a and b.

@beinerthchitivamachado874

3 жыл бұрын

Revival was dissapointing because of shit like ShadyXV, Right for Me is one of Em's HARDEST tracks. Lyrical madness.

@MikeyOMillaMane

3 жыл бұрын

All the songs were great.

I felt he dropped this album for fun. Didn’t feel like he’s taking it too serious. Like the “Piss pissed offerson” line is enough to know that it’s just something light and not to overthink about

@vannchansenany10d32

3 жыл бұрын

True plus even if he isn’t taking the rap game serious anymore he still gonna have more record sales than a lot of the top rappers nowadays lol

In terms of bars, you guys have it completely wrong. He might have a few corny bars here and there cause thats just the person he is but the overall content was amazing. Book of rhymes was BAR HEAVY. Favorite bitch, Higher, discombobolated, gnat etc. Overall this is a great album.

You guys didn’t like Zeus? I thought the hook was pretty good with the beat, and lyrics were tolerable 😂

@zenoevol5991

3 жыл бұрын

And he did exactly what they wanted him to do: NOT DO THE HOOK HIMSELF and it didn't even get a mention. Ain't that some shit? Lmao

I thought Zeus and Killer were great.

“Oh how the mighty fall” - some Greek Philosopher

@bigjohnboatright3811

3 жыл бұрын

DAMN!!! 😩

@michelle2754

3 жыл бұрын

"Stop d***riding everything they spout, being overly bias of certain artists and go back to making videos about what rappers sampled in they albums" - Me

@producedbykhireyakeem4340

3 жыл бұрын

I love your channel so much

@Bandstand

3 жыл бұрын

@@producedbykhireyakeem4340 I love that you watch my vids 🤝

@michelle2754

3 жыл бұрын

@@ozymandias___868 kanye west*

Kinge: “You’re being tone deaf, Feefo” Me: “ _I can’t understand a word you say..._ ”

Myke been cracking me tf up lately. "Ya'll ain't like when he said 'These bars are like covid, you get it right off the bat?" "That's tight."

I think if Em allows Dre and/or Royce to produce an entire album and only worries about lyrics on a true concept album it would be one of the best things he can do right now. A true from the heart and honest concept album from him would be so differnt then anything he has done recently and it could be a great thing to get his name back to where people had him at in the early 2000’s

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

Dre was present on MTBMB more than any other project since Relapse. Matter of fact Dre implication on the project gave us some of the best songs of the project; Premonition, Never love again, little engine, lock it up, she moves me, Discombombulated and people still complain about it -_-

@blissfulinsomniac5711

3 жыл бұрын

@@francoisturcotte3982 "Little Engine" had some of the worst lines I've ever heard from Em, lol.

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

@@blissfulinsomniac5711 it's a relapse thing you wouldn't understand if you didn't like that album

@blissfulinsomniac5711

3 жыл бұрын

@@francoisturcotte3982 "Relapse" was all right. Still didn't like that song, though, lmao.

"Why are expectations so high? Is it the bar I set? My arms, I stretch, but I can't reach A far cry from it, or it's in my grasp, but as Soon as I grab, squeeze"

@angelayala7922

3 жыл бұрын

This is why no one likes Em stans lol

@FidoeFTW

3 жыл бұрын

@@angelayala7922 Facts lmao they think quoting Em lyrics somehow makes their argument correct?

@angelayala7922

3 жыл бұрын

@@FidoeFTW I mean I’m a Stan and I don’t agree with this review too much but I also tend not to agree with stans too much. Atleast how they present it

@Shaolinmike1994

3 жыл бұрын

@@angelayala7922 I think the quote matches perfectly. Eminem is clearly held to such a high standard that people are turned off by his corny bars, that they’ll over look his good bars. Somehow that made this album trash. I can’t understand why the beats would be bad to them neither, it’s very fitting for the current landscape, he was having fun rapping, rapped about relevant topics, had great flows that went with the beat switch ups. I just can’t understand what more someone wants from Eminem 20 years into his career. They trashed it as if his lyrics were that unbearable. I see KZread reactors that sit there and pick the bars apart and they are mind blown by what he’s saying.

@AdelM.Abbass

3 жыл бұрын

I like Em as an artist cuz i can quote his lyrics! It's very accurate and relating. And i can quote more "maybe Stan isn't ur cuppa tea! Maybe ur cup is full of syrup and lean!" Either way! Enjoy the music and have fun with ur life productively. Good day gentlemen.

I love how the stans in the comments are saying: "The lines are SUPPOSED to be corny" Basically what these stans mean is "Eminem hasn't changed since his earlier days" and they are getting frustrated that we as listeners actually HAVE changed our music preferences and don't want to keep hearing corny lines.

@tullslp8711

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody forcing u to listen

@shotbynolan1705

3 жыл бұрын

Real talk

@martimlacerda9748

3 жыл бұрын

@@tullslp8711 true man

@martimlacerda9748

3 жыл бұрын

Just don t listen Go listen to Pop Smoke

@charlesraleighjr8439

3 жыл бұрын

Truth is no matter what he does at this point some will not be happy.

I think people are taking Eminem's music too serious..he's just playing most of the time..the corny punchlines are done on purpose lol

@jacobtrimble4329

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@AndreGriffiths1

3 жыл бұрын

Writing bad lyrics purposely still results in bad lyrics. Also, until Em actually says that's what he's doing, I'm just going to assume he thinks his pen game is on point.... Because he always brags about his pen game (remember... he'll out rap you like Santa). Why would he write lyrics for people to shit on only to then complain about the fact that people shit on them?

@flipgsp

3 жыл бұрын

Eminem did Fack but these dudes losing their minds over a few corny lines he obviously did on purpose 🤣

@danielalemu5663

3 жыл бұрын

He did go on crooked I review

@resppekwinz7059

3 жыл бұрын

Listen to his adlibs in the background..you can tell hes just having fun saying something stupid stuff..obviously some comedy isnt for everyone..just like some people hate shock comedians..I cant be mad if you hate the music hes putting out lately but for me I've never heard a wack eminem album..I fuck with all his stuff even revival and recovery..I guess I'm a stan

all i want from em now at this point is a bad meets evil 2, or an album with hitboy, madlib, rza, premier, pete rock, dre, just blaze all on production with a whole roster of dope rappers to bring out the best em, wed need kdot, lupe, king los, jid, joey badass, ab soul, black thought, lil wayne, jay z, redman

@beinerthchitivamachado874

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY. Em is a LEGEND, he should be collabing with legends. Kenny, Nas, Jay or some current rappers; Cole, Danny Brown, RTJ, Lupe, Denzel Curry, JID, Freddie Gibbs... the list is endless.

Idk man, I thought the album was good, Em was having fun with it and I'm okay with it, I know many aren't and want a level above what hes delivered lately, but eh I still enjoy it 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Ballistix117

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought it was way better then side a. I don’t what other people hear sometimes, but it’s all opinion based

@simbalesliechoto8663

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ballistix117 i think side b complement side a very well. Its a good double album imo but i think side A was better because more focused and had better track overall.

Mike is really liking everything that everyone is disliking 🤣

@mistahmst

3 жыл бұрын

And he didn’t even really like this album either. He just doesn’t tear shit apart like he used to

@MrShaiya96

3 жыл бұрын

@@mistahmst EXACTLY! while the old myke is very entertaining, he seems more mature and analytical now.

@killerbean5343

3 жыл бұрын

Yea myke never said he liked it either

To each his own. Respect you guys but I just feel differently. I appreciate the fact he’s still putting music out.

@dazza818

3 жыл бұрын

There are no two words in the English language more harmful than "good job" - Terence Fletcher. Who has way more memorable quotables in one movie than Eminem has had in his last 4 albums.

@angelayala7922

3 жыл бұрын

@@dazza818 we comparing Em to movies now

@anggg.9890

3 жыл бұрын

@@dazza818 facts

@dazza818

3 жыл бұрын

@@angelayala7922 I mean, I could compare him to the rappers putting out quality albums, but it will be embarrassing for him, so.... 🤷🏾‍♂️

@angelayala7922

3 жыл бұрын

@@dazza818 Every time it comes to Eminem he is always be compared to everybody and his old work. Boy has been having a good life with his wealth, he is putting out stuff for fun. Lyrically he is insane and put whatever rapper with him and he will out rap them

It's funny cause 'classic' Em' was never about this super fast rapping that Em' does now. If you go back to MMLP and The Eminem Show, what made those albums great were the content and song writing that he had. It seems the more albums Em' drops now the further he gets away from that. I think Em' sitting down with a sole producer like Q-Tip for a 11-12 track album where he focuses on content can do wonders for him.

@otaigbestanley3052

3 жыл бұрын

You clearly did not listen to this album because Em did not rap fast save for the end of gnat.

@beinerthchitivamachado874

3 жыл бұрын

I'm scared for Em's discography as a whole tbh. He NEEDS a classic before he retires, man.

@dallasd214M

3 жыл бұрын

@@beinerthchitivamachado874 he already has classics Or r u saying 1 more?

@davereback6787

3 жыл бұрын

He barely be rapping fast...that shits a meme at this point.

@Missaw94

3 жыл бұрын

@@otaigbestanley3052 His flow in general is a lot faster than back then. I still love Em's music, but I definitely prefer his older flows.

Again, Eminem has the lyrical ability but problem is he DOESNT have a filter for what good or bad lines when he's writing or freestyling. He needs someone to help him direct a conceptual album, check up on him if a line is corny or nah, listen to the hooks, etc...

@henrychinaski5938

3 жыл бұрын

But who gonna do it if Royce and Crook swallow his load everyday . Dre ain’t been doing it and when Budden said anything it started a whole beef 🤷🏽‍♂️

@producedbykhireyakeem4340

3 жыл бұрын

He can’t take criticism, isn’t it clear?

@authorrobjohnson3178

3 жыл бұрын

I think on the last review of Revival, Feefo said something about Just Blaze criticizing Em and Em walked out of the room.

@CrackCECKer

3 жыл бұрын

@@henrychinaski5938 you got that joe part messed up af. That one was about loyalty and respect, not opinion, just like with Snoop, let's keep that a 100. Royce doesn't hear most of his music until it's out I'm pretty sure. And Dre... i think his taste isn't so good no more, that's the issue

@henrychinaski5938

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrackCECKer What loyalty does Joe owe Em ? Shit when Joe was going at Drake and drake was saying fuck Joe Budden, Em was popping up at his shows 🤷🏽‍♂️ Em doesn’t want loyalty , he wants yes men and but guzzlers . It’s pretty apparent .

I love these dudes but this review was a bit off. He actually had good lyrics on Side B. It's crazy to me how they're not feeling it but I guess to each his own. I really liked this album but I do appreciate that they spoke their piece.

He put out Revival (The mature Marshall Mathers and y'all said it's garbage, he should go back to Slim Shady kind), Now he gives you more of Slim Shady, oh he is corny 😂😂😂

@romaretaylor9953

3 жыл бұрын

Revival wasn’t trash because of the content it was trash mostly cause of the production, and Em’s “maturity” on there was rehashing stuff he already talked about, him remaking love the way you lie over and over or Mockingbird isn’t maturity

@edwardmyers9492

3 жыл бұрын

@@romaretaylor9953 it's not that the production was trash it's literally because majority of those beats aren't hip hop or rap beats they were more poppy sounding and for a lot of listeners that particular sound isn't very appealing especially within the hip hop and rap scene The issue that must you even including the people in this video seem to forget is that eminem has massive fanbase (one of the biggest in the world ) so there are certain avenues eminem will go with his music that will only appeal to that particular crowd because has a lot of individuals in his fanbase that aren't really hip hop fans but only listen to him as the only artist from that genre Which is why on most of his recent albums the songs all sound way different from each other because even though he's rapping on them , not all of them are hip hop centric songs So you can't expect him to isolate other sections of his fanbase just to please another set of his fanbase, business wise that makes no sense

@blissfulinsomniac5711

3 жыл бұрын

Did YOU enjoy Revival?

@edwardmyers9492

3 жыл бұрын

@@blissfulinsomniac5711 I like some songs on it but the album as a whole wasn't bad I get what he was going for but the execution needed some more work

I cant believe yall diddnt talk about the snoop and em beef tho, I feel like that could have been a really good discussion

@martimlacerda9748

3 жыл бұрын

They are not upset They are friends

I want you to change, but don't change (yeah) I want you to grow up, but don't age I want the rage, but don't get too angry I want the new, but old Shady I want you to say what they won't say (yeah) Just don't go too far, but go cray I want you to almost lose it, man It keep movin' the goal post, don't they?

@tariqtelesford9045

3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly the problem with eminems fans

@AdelM.Abbass

3 жыл бұрын

@@tariqtelesford9045 actually this is from his song "these demons" speaking to everyone like these unknowns here in this video. And by unknowns i mean in the scale of the man they are discussing.

@AdelM.Abbass

3 жыл бұрын

@@tariqtelesford9045 I like Em as an artist cuz i can quote his lyrics! It's very accurate and relating. And i can quote more "maybe Stan isn't ur cuppa tea! Maybe ur cup is full of syrup and lean!" Either way! Enjoy the music and have fun with ur life productively. Good day gentlemen.

Did you guys ever say what exactly you didn't like about Book of Rhymes? You mentioned you were disappointed that Premo was just on the outro but other than that did you have a problem with that actual song? It was a dope track to me

Myke, are you referring to subject matter? I would agree his last three albums (or 2 with B-Side) are stretched with the same subject matter, with some tracks that stand out from the rest. Let alone now a days, it's the less more mantra.

That spam sandwich on a golden plate illustration was pretty accurate in describing the lyrics on the album.

Appreciate y’all DEHH!! Always giving out great quality and giving us the fans what we want consistently. I always leave your videos learning something new

Myke breaking up songs into fractions at the end 😂😂😂😂😂

LMAO, on Tone Deaf he goes "I'm going in like the red roof" then has to make sure we know what he's talking about by saying "red roof inn" Does that shit constantly on the album

@ramonmendez4183

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, cause he thinks we're not "getting" the line. We get it, it's just not that clever, lol. He had some dope bars on this album tho

@facelift5628

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramonmendez4183 rofl so y’all missed it then. That’s cool.

@ramonmendez4183

3 жыл бұрын

@@facelift5628 Missed what?

@blissfulinsomniac5711

3 жыл бұрын

@@facelift5628 Sigh...if you think that line is complex enough to "miss" then you need to stay in school.

@facelift5628

3 жыл бұрын

@@blissfulinsomniac5711 it’s ok if you missed the actual meaning. No biggie

Eminem has a couple good tracks in each of his recent albums since Revival. But the majority of it is so painful.

@tuutelis

3 жыл бұрын

All of it is so fire

@corleone908

3 жыл бұрын

Ur trippin kamikaze and mtbmb are both good. Side b is not he shouldn't have even release side b

@gabriellourenco1122

3 жыл бұрын

Kamikaze and mtbm side A are good tho u just gotta give a chance

If this was Big Sean. It would be declared his magnum opus.

@shotbynolan1705

3 жыл бұрын

Shid not on this channel

@bandtmusic8503

3 жыл бұрын

no the fuck it wouldn't be. dont matter who made it, it still has issues

@maxineespinoza7022

3 жыл бұрын

Big Sean is not white

This was one of your best reviews ever. The nuanced discussion and the concise opinions is why yall are the best doing it right now. Thank you

THANK YOU BEEZY!! I’ve always said if you’re gonna critique Nas’s beat selection, talk about Em’s beats over the years

@BlackMusicGenre

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Eminem can't do no wrong in the eyes of many. BTW. Didn't Nas drop a song called Book Of Rhymes on the God Son album ?

@controversialmann5345

3 жыл бұрын

To me Em is more interesting

@BlackMusicGenre

3 жыл бұрын

@@controversialmann5345 Why because of a bunch of syllable flippin and verbal acrobatics ? Whole lots of flash , but very little substance. Lots of sizzle and very little steak.

@sharshesa1

3 жыл бұрын

That’s only argument you have but em is an incredible producer. He won an Oscar for lose yourself. He produced hit songs and nobody listens to em only for beats he is a wordsmith.

@mitchgoudreau7670

3 жыл бұрын

Nas has had some misses with production but he ain't no where near as bad as Em. His beat selection this decade is worse, and the beats from his early work are outdated.

You guys were literally praising Em on Kamakazi which dropped 2 years ago, now acting like he hasn't had it since 2003. How quick they forget!

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

And they were for most of them okay with MTBMB side A and now acted like they totaly forgor this album existed lol. The eminem hate train is popular these days.

@ryanvason6818

3 жыл бұрын

Em is trash

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryanvason6818 ok boomer.

@ryanvason6818

3 жыл бұрын

@@francoisturcotte3982 the fact you used boomer proves how much of a lame you are

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryanvason6818 no it just prove that i'm not gonna lose my time dismentaling your losing haters ass with fact and logics. Keep dreaming in your alternative reality honey in the meantime Eminem has drop 3 hip-hop classics, has the respect and admiration from all the OG's and is the best selling hip-hop artist of all time. Not bad from a "trash" artist.

Em will always be one of my favorites, but he just doesn't have anything to write about anymore. All his great music came from personal issues he was dealing with coming up

@grimooze8365

3 жыл бұрын

yeah pretty much I hope he comes back really better cause he can make some good albums he just doesn't want to

@michelle2754

3 жыл бұрын

Overused statement

@grimooze8365

3 жыл бұрын

@@michelle2754 bruh are you liking your own comments? cmon bro

@michelle2754

3 жыл бұрын

@@grimooze8365 No tf..Imagine having to rely on making shit up to gain the upper hand 😬 bruhh

@jdizzle3642

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh cuz hes rich and sober now wats he supposed to keep rappin about bein broke and poppin pills

Myke vs the gang (respectfully of course) on back to back episodes brings back so many great memories on DEHH. Love it

Glad B mentioned Em's production choices

"I wanna get head first like a nose dive" isn't really a bad line, is it?

@melly4042

3 жыл бұрын

Lol no it isn't mf critics just hold Eminem up to high standards for everything he says. Em will never pls them

@mranklebreaker1210

3 жыл бұрын

@@melly4042 couldn’t have said it better myself.. plus I don’t think most of these lines are meant to be taken that seriously... they’re just witty

@khashayarmesgar9099

3 жыл бұрын

he was doing a whole scheme with pool and jets and all of that. these guys completely missed it

@skyblaze1134

3 жыл бұрын

Corny like most of the bars he spits now.. and not good corny like his early work.

After watching the recent interview with em, I think that his rapping completely changed because of the drugs cuz he even said that he had to relearn how to rap again.

@xymes8425

3 жыл бұрын

This is true, yes. Eminem had a huge writer's block problem and drug addiction, with the loss of Proof. After he sobered up and fixed his social issues, he still had to deal with a writer's block. That's mostly why people separate eminem from 1999-2004 and 2009-present, not just because of the huge break in between projects, but him relearning how to rap changed his style undeniably. For me imo, I have no issue with it.

And if I remember correctly the switch to the "more punchlines em" is recovery ,the double entendres were like triple the amount they were be4 and that might be cause after rehab he had to relearn how to rap he just went with that new more flow focused punchlines heavy content so

Feefo's laugh when Myke said "Damn. That's cap!" is hilarious!!!!

I'ma be honest, I think Dad Joke Em is one of my guilty pleasures at this point.

@rexlongfellow

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I embrace the corniness

@chandlerc17230

2 жыл бұрын

Same

I haven't actively searched for an Eminem project since MMLP2. Idk if I've listened to any new Em project more than once since then. He's just comes off trying too hard for punchlines that he cosigns, whether or not they're corny, I just can't do it. I agree 100% with what Myke said about Em's change from the song topic deciding punchlines, word placement, etc. to now focusing on punchline and setup over topic and whether or not something's corny

@hoodiemike210

3 жыл бұрын

i was the biggest em fan until that album.. i kinda lied to myself into liking that album but it sucked!! nd so did everything after

@johnmarston3395

3 жыл бұрын

@@hoodiemike210 I don’t think Kamikaze was I thought it was good and mtbmb side A was good

Personally it seems like Em takes the heat for just about anything because I have to sit back and ask. What exactly is considered dope? What's considered corny? Cause I can look at a lot of artists now who put out shit and the lines the similies and metaphors they use, are weak as fuck but they also couple it with an equally basic flow and such but they get hailed as dope for it, all the while it seems like with Eminem people are so focused on the shit they don't like or find issue with and let that overshadow everything. I mean, who gives a damn that he's rapping about covid he isn't the only one to do it but I've never seen anyone catch as much hell as Eminem does even though while he's rapping he made a play on words making all the references, why is that a problem and how is that corny, like the hook in general touched on a bunch of references but he's playing around with the words and having fun. At the same time em has addressed this multiple times, every time he drops something everyone complains that it's not what they wanted. He writes about things that are important or have substance, he gets flamed for it, he gets mad and goes off, he's being petty and childish, he raps just to rap and for the sake of rapping and now he has no content, why is he doing it. Never mind that he's still at least putting a lot of effort into the craft and it's what he loves to do. It just seems like everyone is always coming to bash Em and run with it and that shit seems to be contagious cause if it wasn't em I guarantee they wouldn't get this much focus hate and criticism. I don't agree with the fact that just cause he came out putting everyone on notice with bars and all and now he ain't got it. More often than not no one truly pays attention to bars like that now everyone's main focus is flows and beats. Cause on both sides of mtbmb em was at least still dropping bars but the criticism was how it was delivered and while yea its completely opinionated on whether you like it or not, for example little engine while you may not like the hook, it was designed to sound like a chainsaw revving, and while you hear that and not like it it still doesn't change the fact that he's rapping his ass off and just cause he's rapping just to rap without a heavy concept it doesn't equate to him being corny I just feel like personal opinion at times tends to affect the perception of how the music comes out and that in itself creates an even harder goal to reach. Either way just my opinion.

@AdelM.Abbass

3 жыл бұрын

U summed it all up man.

@Shaolinmike1994

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you. Eminem is just held to way high of a standard that he gets ripped a part soon as he relaxes on his bars for a moment. He really can’t win. Eminem talks about this himself all the time. Everyone wants something different from him. These guys love the Relapse album, which I do too. But if Eminem makes another album that sounds like that what are people going to say “oh he isn’t evolving he’s making the same content” or “oh wow he’s still rapping about this grotesque stuff, he’s so gross we need to cancel him”. He makes something modern and time stamped to fit 2020 perfectly and with modern production and still gets ripped apart. It’s a lose lose for him. I know most wouldn’t be so hard on this album if it was a different artist that made this album.

@Yawdan

3 жыл бұрын

It's because Eminem is in the conversation for best rapper. But he's sort of an outlier in that he doesn't make the same type of music that a Jay-Z, Nas... Or a J. Cole/Kendrick make. And the fact that his lives a different to life to other rappers, he's differences mean that he may have to do more to be taken the same way other rappers of his tier are. It seems that to make music that appeals to people outside of his core fan base, he has to step out of his personal tastes. When he makes music that he personally likes (by that I mean beat selection, content, lyrics, how he wants to rhyme), he isolates those that aren't a fan of his music. Unfortunately, it seems he has to decide between his personal artistry, and appealing to the culture. What Eminem nerds to do is just lock in with Hip Hop producers and make a pure Hip Hop album. Actually get Premier beats, 9th Wonder and the like, and not worry about sales, and just rap. Once he's delivered that, he will appease his detractors and can continue creating how he wants to.

@Shaolinmike1994

3 жыл бұрын

@@Yawdan I think you have some valid points, but at the same time they will still find a way to rip him a part. Another thing though, Eminem can’t really rap about the same issues as Jay, Cole, or Kendrick. He can’t relate to the same issues as a black man in America. He’s already rapped about struggles of poverty, but people say they are tired of hearing about that from him. Then when he raps about problems in America on “Revival” he got ripped up for that and some said he shouldn’t rap about “the plight of black people” or “woke Eminem isn’t good”. I really feel he is in a lose lose. There are some people that don’t want Eminem to be a part of the culture or they are sick and tired of him. One dude literally told Royce “I want you to kick Eminem out of the culture”. Royce said that is never happening. Although he may be the most loved amongst his fans, he is also the most hated in hip hop. There will always be negative feedback about him no matter what he does.

@Yawdan

3 жыл бұрын

@@Shaolinmike1994 to be honest, i don't care about what foolish and/or racist people say lol. They are not important. Eminem doesn't have to rap about what others do. The fact that Eminem is himself is one of his strengths. _But_ he has to make at least an album that can stand next to the Illmatics, Reasonable Doubts, Death Certificates etc. He doesn't have to rap like others at all. But he needs to at least have the music to be comparable to them. He needs rap over the classic Hip Hop producers beats. No I.D, Pete Rock, 9th Wonder, Buckwild etc. Nas, Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube, Rakim, LL Cool J, Scarface, Raekwon, Outlast and many others have all given at least one album that was an undisputed classic, and have gone on to experiment with their sound and content. I don't want to dictate Eminem's creativity. But if he wants to be taken the same as the others _music-wise_ (he is skill-wise), then he needs to deliver like them. And if he does, and people still talk sh**, then f*ck em lol.

Em NEEDS to be executive produced. Give Uncle Al free reign on the beats and just Spit! Guaranteed Classic...

@edwin99901

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine a apollo brown x eminem joint like joell ortiz mona lisa. And they both from detroit... it could even be a bad meets evil x apollo brown

@surr3al1s

3 жыл бұрын

@@edwin99901 That would be ILL but Royce would mop up Em these days IMO

@edwin99901

3 жыл бұрын

@@surr3al1s I disagree but to each it's own.

@kingwwx8163

3 жыл бұрын

Picture a Dr.Dre and Dj Premier produced Album with Eminem and Nas

@davereback6787

3 жыл бұрын

@@surr3al1s who had the better verse on catapillar? I love this cool guy take...but I can't think of 1 song Royce "mopped up" Em...he has edged him up but mopped him um....nah...Em had a better verse on Friday Night Cypher imo

We need Eminem to have a Nas style comeback

Em just wants to showcase his skill and penmanship at this moment in his career because he's pretty much covered everything else when it comes down to 'content'...I believe he has succeeded in this project when it comes down to the fundamentals of MC'ing. I think y'all are taking it way too seriously. At the end of the day no one is close to Em when in comes to putting words together and thats a fact.

@FidoeFTW

3 жыл бұрын

Uhhhhh what? Jay Z is WAY better at putting words together because he actually matured and still has a lot of interesting content to rap about. Plus Jay Z isn't saying corny shit as a grown ass man. Get over yourself bruh.

@boiment1

3 жыл бұрын

@@FidoeFTW I'm talking about the technical aspect of putting words together, syllables, rhyming patterns and bending words. Yes Jay is great at putting words together but not on the level of complexity of Em's...However Jay is a certified GOAT in my opinion, so I'm not too sure why you're getting offended? - Peace.

I don't get why people didn't like "Book of Rhymes". That was one of the better songs on here to me

You cant really hurt your legacy by continuing to make music because when it’s all said and done when they die... if they are a goat they will forever be a goat. Also music is for everyone and someone might like something and hate something else. Every album someone’s gonna like it for sure.

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Eminem can put out all the trash he wants (i'm not saying he is i think MTBMB is fire) it will never erase his legacy and touch his prime and run of 1998-2003. This shit is historic no matter what the haters wish.

@jesusiracheta8570

3 жыл бұрын

@@francoisturcotte3982 for real bro I’m a big Eminem fan and I like all his albums for different reasons he’s still influencing people to this day. From Kendrick to cole to big Sean to logic and nf and token and even a lot of people who haven’t said or won’t admit it. Jid, cordea and juice world as well. And yup that run was legendary bro.

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesusiracheta8570 that 1998-2003 run will be remember as the greatest rap run if not one ofnthe greatest music run in history. The eminem phenomenon was out of this world back in the days.

@jesusiracheta8570

3 жыл бұрын

@@francoisturcotte3982 for real bro. He won a Oscar, a Grammy I think had number one albums a hit movie. A hit movie soundtrack , influence all that. Eminem is a goat. And also I don’t like how people try to take 1 or 2 likes here and there and say he’s wack when he’s been spitting barz since he started

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

@@jesusiracheta8570 because rapper with content and actual bars and flow and technicality isn't "hype" anymore. Thank god eminem a a huge fan base ready to support him so he can still shred some wack ass rapper with flow and bars. Em is like the only mainstream rapper who still has content except for Cole and Kendrick of course.

Damn ppl must really hate this album. I loved it. Killer, Zeus, gnat, alfreds theme, she loves me, discombobulated, black magic. All the lines they said were bad I liked because they were funny. Majority of rap is too serious

@wizard932

2 жыл бұрын

Killer trash as hell But discombobulated, Zeus, Alfred’s theme, she loves me, higher, book of rhymes, fire

I get he can have corny lines but I still think Eminem’s problem ,as of now, is an over reliance on delivering crazy bars. It’s like he keeps trying to outdo his craziest bar and if he’s not delivering bars then he isn’t satisfied anymore. I forgot who made the point but if you go back to MMLP, Eminem Show, he almost has no bars. Just impactful and hard hitting lyrics with sick cadences. In the MMLP2 he hit the best balance in my opinion between bars and still making songs with content. Legacy is the most fucking insane technical ability I’ve ever heard, same rhyme scheme throughout 3 verses while taking you on a journey to him getting his confidence and his voice on the track gets perpetually clearer in each verse signifying how he found his voice. Groundhog Day where he rhymes the “in” sound for damn near the whole song while TALKING HIS SHIT, and that Bad Guy last verse...I challenge anyone to find a better verse than that without mentioning top 5 caliber verses of ALL TIME. I just don’t think we have the same standards for his peers like Lil Wayne who really hasn’t said or done much in the same amount of time (2010-now). He set the bar so damn high for himself and it’s just like how the fuck can he even reach it anymore. There’s glimpses of it throughout the time since he came back where that shit takes me back to a little kid with his headphones on. Darkness is still a top tier song from all angles rivaling Stan IMO. Anyways if you bothered to read this far then some of my favorite lines from Side B are below if you’re interested. “Lone sniper, I hold the microphone, like a loaded rifle, my domes brighter, all I spit from my skull is fire, all that’s missin is a motorcycle with the chrome wire, spoke tires and y’all are flow biters so I don’t gotta, explain why the call me your ghostwriter (ghost rider)” “Cuz the gutters where my mind is and when, it’s in this frame, better split like the 5 and the 10, cuz without a second to spare, I’m strikin again, and when the beat is up my alley I go right for the pins (pens)” “Even when I’m rappin less stellar, it’s sour grapes, I still whine (wine), I’m the best Seller (cellar).” “Cause I got a bone to pick and Slim Shady, Will thug(Thug), and harm any (harmony) who attempt to diss Hailie” Bone Thug N Harmony reference that blew my mind when I heard it. Then a simple one but I still thought it was dope. “I take a Foe (fo) out like Fe Fi Fum” “Ain’t nothing you say could ever trump, Mic, pencil get killed, if you’re hypersensitive I wasn’t referencing the Vice President chill, I mean my pensmanship at times tends to get ill, violence but with skill, that’s why I hence when I write ends up with the mic and pencil gettin killed”

@MrShaiya96

3 жыл бұрын

there are many artists that do punchlines just fine on certain albums, like Wayne(Carter 3,da drought3). that is no excuse or a real critique. "shut your mother-f$king mouth" is a cringe line. and what B said: the beats are average, except maybe Book of Rhymes. Alfred beat had a lot of potential

@MrShaiya96

3 жыл бұрын

second, why would you like Tokyo ghoul? ew

@dah500

3 жыл бұрын

MrShaiya96 You’re taking one line out of a 5 minute song where Em spazzes. You’re mentioning the carter 3 which is probably Wayne’s best work. What about the Carter 4, 5, Funeral, 5 extended? What would give those albums and are you trying to act like Wayne doesn’t have bad lines?

@dah500

3 жыл бұрын

MrShaiya96 Em did just fine with punchlines on MMLP2. My critique is that he keeps trying to reach a bad for himself that is unreachable where every single line has to be a double.

@dah500

3 жыл бұрын

MrShaiya96 Ishida is the best writer I have ever read, if you read the manga you will see the how he weaves poetry into his work. The anime did him a great disservice. It is not something you can read once, I’ve read the whole series about 4 times and I still catch new things in the chapters.

Did they listen to the same album I did?

@beastmerc84

3 жыл бұрын

I thought this album was good.

@jameson6789

3 жыл бұрын

@@beastmerc84 yeah me too. I loved the beats. Eminem lyrics are always corny unless he's battling or on a thug track. What do they expect

@abgot

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. It was awful.

@Armando316

3 жыл бұрын

It was average at best

@jameson6789

3 жыл бұрын

@@Armando316 hmm what made it average to you? The basic rhyme scheme? The weak beats? No doubles or triples? Barely any rapping? No hyperbole? No onomatopoeia? No metaphors? No Synonym or antonyms? No change in flow? No subject?

I honestly would pay to see yall live reaction together listening to the next eminem album

Eminem comes off like an old dad making a bunch of puns

Nah man, Alfred’s Theme was good. C’mon, “I’m still getting the bag when I put garbage out” is a good line. Wish there were more songs like that and Discombobulated.

@Vincent-eb1cd

3 жыл бұрын

bruh that ain’t hard 😭 he’s literally admitting that he knows he’s ass now but still chooses to put out music like this anyways ???

@NasXShady

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vincent-eb1cd Alright, maybe that specific line wasn’t the best example lol. But the song itself is still really good, it reminds of his older more wacky stuff.

@ThePhreakass

3 жыл бұрын

@Aaron I loved that line because I like the sentiment! Let's put some garbage out and get rich

@FidoeFTW

3 жыл бұрын

LMAOOOO Em called his own music garbage. Glad to see he's still self aware.

@anggg.9890

3 жыл бұрын

@@FidoeFTW lmao

Just smoked a blunt, this video bout to be a banger

Rod has an amazing point about old Em not relying so heavily on punchlines. It seems like every other line is Em just setting up the next punchline, and half the time they are corny as hell. Old Em had some punchlines but every verse didn't have to have like 3 of them

Rod is on point with the punchline comment. The bad punchlines just seem to linger forever until he starts the next line.

His best album since Relapse. I think the production was dope and he can now stay on beat, far less shitty hooks and I love dad jokes so the punch line thing doesn’t bother me.

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention he doesn't scream and yell on every track like he did on Recovery and mmlp2. But most importantly, he's having fun and he has passion for music again something he lacked alot post recovery.

@jaynelson1762

3 жыл бұрын

@@francoisturcotte3982 Yep, Screaming Em was the worst.

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaynelson1762 yeah i feel like some of his worst verse were during this screaming era (2010-1017). Him screaming can be goodon certain type of production like on recovery but it didn't fit well with mmlp2 type of production. A prime example of that is his verse on medicine man from compton. The beat was freaking nice, the chorus too, Dre's verse was nice and then came Eminem screaming is lungs out with a snare so loud that the combination made my ears bleed. I never thought before that moment that Em could ruin a song with a verse lol. I think this is why MTBMB is soo good because he has such a control of his voice and cadence that he sounds on alot of songs like he used to rap 15 years ago,he sounds 15 years younger lol. Kamikaze was a step in the right direction even though he was a little but too aggressive on certain songs, MTBMB has the perfect balance of cadence and aggressivity imo much like MMLP and TES.

never too early, yall killing it!

Is it weird that I can enjoy an Em album while stil, understanding the criticisms about him? Like he's still my favourite rapper, no cap. But I also know that I can't have his album on all day, I know that he comes up with weird punchlines and that he needs to reach deep for fresher content and musical direction. I know that he needs to surround himself with better producers and live a outside of his shell for a change. But I also know that he's now only making music for his core fan base (me included) It's the same with all the legends. For example, while Nas has remained a true lyricist for the majority of his career he hasn't actually made a record that moved the culture in a long time ( Kings Disease was fire ) Kane hasn't had a decent album in a he'll of a long time. Even his closest to good material feels unfinished and unfocused But I still love all these guys. It's just a pity the white boy gets the most hate out of all of them

I personally love it, I can I understand some people talking about beat selection or hooks but you guys just don’t like it. That’s fine, just don’t listen to Em. He’s still top tier no matter what!

@TheWonderfulKyurem

3 жыл бұрын

Your profile picture says it all lol

@Shaolinmike1994

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWonderfulKyurem what does that mean?

@milikabaukitoga-naulumatua6406

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@tadarrian123

3 жыл бұрын

They probably not they are music reviewer thats why they they listened

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWonderfulKyurem your the exact reason why the Stans get mad and after that you'll be the first to complain about how the stans are toxic and shit when you started it lol. Let the man enjoy his thing and stop being so condescendant lol

They've created a monster cuz nobody wants to see Marshall no more they want Shady he's chop liver well if they want Shady this is what he'll give ya a little bit of weed mixed with some hard liquor! 😂😂😂

@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842

3 жыл бұрын

How I miss those days..also I was 20 so there’s that

It’s ironic how they are complaining that eminem isn’t saying anything on this album, yet their favorite track is Discombobulated, which is one of the ones with the least substance

@kennethflaglerjr3843

3 жыл бұрын

Facts that is so confusing

@SpinninBackfisted

3 жыл бұрын

@@kennethflaglerjr3843 Their opinions are irrelevant. Em does what he does well - these no name jokers couldn't hold a candle to what he's accomplished. This video is garbage.

@henrychinaski5938

3 жыл бұрын

Because it’s the only one with interesting production and the least amount of corny punchlines .

@francoisturcotte3982

3 жыл бұрын

@@henrychinaski5938 only the first part of the song is fire because it's a dre beat the rest is...weird lol. And corny is a subjective term not an objective one.

@Armando316

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpinninBackfisted Eminem is a cornball😂😂😂

I remember watching a xxl podcast episode where they were speaking on eminem, and one of the members who is an ex critic, said once he stopped listening to eminem as a critic, he enjoyed it more and saw the clever things eminem was doing

@aforty0412

3 жыл бұрын

That’s how consumers listen to music in general, if the song sounds good then it’s a go.... these reviews are too “polished” where they get too picky.

@edwin99901

3 жыл бұрын

@@aforty0412 facts. I'd hate to be a critic for a living or as any type of job. It's a miserable way of consuming anything. You're going to wire your brain to always find flaws in anything, making the experience less of what it should be. And sad thing is people take these reviews to heart and they start to think they're critics as well, or dont even form their own opinions any more, they're having their "opinion" fed to them.

@edwin99901

3 жыл бұрын

@Mad Sadiq no

The problem isn't eminem the artiste the problem to me is the perception of what eminem should be A lot of people are still holding on to the eminem of the past (especially the people in this video) and are not allowing themselves to view the eminem of current day The man today is 100% different than the eminem of like 10-20 years ago

@luismendes5868

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. And specially they gravitate towards Eminem's old voice and flow, from early 2000s. Yes, it was much better but still, this is just different

I discovered this channel today and Myke already become one of my favorite people on the internet.

Its a deluxe edition, not a separate album on its own. XD