All praise to the soprano hitting those enharmonic notes!

@adamabele785

4 жыл бұрын

The human voice can do amazing things with some practice. Somehow for the singer, it is just a glissando between C and D cut into pieces, but you need to be able to imagine where the to place the notes precisely and that is a thing that needs training.

@bobaldo2339

4 жыл бұрын

Lovely notes!

@philtanics1082

4 жыл бұрын

Lovely singing, she sounds great.

@EmdrGreg

4 жыл бұрын

It sounds to me that Alicia (sp?) hit those notes with utter accuracy. Amazing, and very beautiful.

Dang, this was such a great video. Great performance and great research!

@Weebusaurus

5 жыл бұрын

Yo Adam Neely! Cool to see you watch this channel too, it's criminally underrated!

@daniele3452

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, thanks to you I discover this great channel some years ago. Thank you and thanks to Elam to the always great contents.

@jefflokanata

4 жыл бұрын

@adam I hope big music theory channel can help small but good quality. This kind theory is nearly impossible popular, but also hard to get even in university.

@pablosorbara2280

4 жыл бұрын

Time to play an enharmonic version of The Lick

@Tabu11211

4 жыл бұрын

I keep on bumping into you when I least expect.

teacher: You were flat! Me: um, it was an Enharmonic choice. please take it up with Cavalieri.

@rogermoore27

3 жыл бұрын

Haa!

Listening to such old music using compositional tools modern composers are only now rediscovering... Incredible.

@renderizer01

4 жыл бұрын

Enharmonic music, as presented here, is basically microtonal music. And while microtonality is indeed a device that some modern composers have made - and are making - use of, it's been an integral part of many traditional forms of music since ancient times (remember that he referenced the ancient Greek genera). Music from Greece (especially Crete), the Middle East, Turkey and India (among many others) - they're all making use of microtonal scale systems, of which our 'Western' (tempered) scales are merely a very small subset.

@creamabdul-jabbar

4 жыл бұрын

@@renderizer01 west african music too, and american music with african roots.

I didn’t expect the passage to be played with the microtonal components. KUDOS to the performers for accomplishing this.

@BookOfFaustus

4 жыл бұрын

Using the only enharmonic organ in the world though. Pretty cool

@JohannesKellerCembalo

4 жыл бұрын

@@BookOfFaustus Yes, it is a privilege to have access to this instrument indeed!

@brianbuch1

4 жыл бұрын

Now it's possible using synthetic instruments to have a recreation of an enharmonic organ without all the mechanical complications. This would make such music available to a wider range of performers. (and audiences) .

@electric7487

19 күн бұрын

​@@brianbuch1 There's an alternative keyboard layout known as the Bosanquet-Wilson layout that is isomorphic and makes possible keyboard instruments that are not limited to 12-tone well or equal temperaments.

Now I must binge watch every video in your channel.

@kevinberstler

4 жыл бұрын

Natheniel Becken hahaha same

@rachelsimms6822

4 жыл бұрын

Ah the pleasure if the binge watch 🎼

@Zulanderr

4 жыл бұрын

i find myself in the same predicament

@MaxAmSax

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Same.

9:32 9:32 9:32 To those who want to keep repeating the enharmonic passage, here you go!

@BlueMeeple

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Just adding the exact part where the magic happens for myself: 9:45 9:45 9:45

@johnwinward2421

3 жыл бұрын

I could listen to that all day.

@LazlosPlane

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't want to hear it the FIRST time....

@andresdaniel6711

Жыл бұрын

It's so satisfying!

Now THIS is a music channel. Professional, straight to the point.

Every video I watch just makes me even more enthusiastic about renaissance music. MICROTONES!? YESSSSS

Fascinating! As soon as the singer hits the enharmonic chromatic note, I completely lose my sense of the tonality. The final resolution comes as a wonderful surprise. I would love to hear a complete recording of this piece with the microtonal ending.

@respectfulremastersbymetal8336

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I noticed that when I heard it too. Super odd sensation. That first note hits and, even when that last note resolved, it took my brain a second to follow actually let it feel complete and in tune.

I know little about music theory, but those notes tingled my teeth.

@brettb9194

4 жыл бұрын

yes, very nice musical notation of bitterness

9:45 The build-up to the final note is so piercing, it almost hurts! But when it's finally hit, it feels rewarding and soothing.

@Doeff8

4 жыл бұрын

I cried. No less.

@Whatismusic123

Жыл бұрын

​@@Doeff8 your emotions do not matter.

@Doeff8

Жыл бұрын

@@Whatismusic123 Oh, but they do. You as a person don't matter, if you deny the essence of emotions for others.

@Whatismusic123

Жыл бұрын

@@Doeff8 keep living in a fantasy, never to understand life and your worthlessness. There is no "essense of emotions" there is merely religion and delusion surrounding a biological tool.

@Doeff8

Жыл бұрын

@@Whatismusic123 Stop using drugs and drinking too much.

Fascinating. It's notable that the final cadential passage in the organ is much more elaborate in the enharmonic version, to drive home the music's arrival at the tonic after its long enharmonic pilgrimage.

Alice YOU ROCK it was amazing to hear you nail that part!!!

What an interesting episode! Alice has a wonderful voice.

subscribing to this channel just based on this one video. unbelievable.

@ChelimYrneh

4 жыл бұрын

ME TOO !

@alvarofernandezdecamino

4 жыл бұрын

Idem

@dylandecker_music

4 жыл бұрын

Same

4 жыл бұрын

and me!

@dibblethwaite

4 жыл бұрын

and me

That enharmonic passage, when performed by Alice, gets me crying. Wonderful.

The vocalist absolutely nailed those crazy notes. Wow.

That ascending enharmonic trope is so wonderfully strange and beautiful.

Cavalieri. Another glorious composer to explore. Thank you Mr Rotem.

That was a grand and disturbing experience. I love it. Alice's smile of happiness on successful completion of the micro-semitones was wonderful to see.

Damn that enharmonic chromatic passage at the end evokes so much emotion, and does a very great and effective way of creating tension and makes the resolution even more rewarding.

I've been looking for this video again for months

We should mention here that in modern times, we now play such tones routinely, especially in the blues. There are instruments that are capable of playing such tones, such as the guitar, harmonica, BluesBox, and many of the brass and woodwind instruments. It's called "bending notes," and they add an entirely different dimension to the sound.

Both singing/playing, research, commenting and video montage are all phenomenal ! Thanks

fascinating, and strange -- and what a wonderful performance!

I love when I stumble on to a subject I know nothing about. Now I have a new rabbit hole to adventure into 😁

Interesting! The effect from the enharmonic notes is like no other. Are there other pieces composed like this too? Also, Alice's smile made my day ♥️♥️

A great time where composers where also musicians, mathematicians, physicists, sound engineers and lovers of poetry and theatre.

Fantastic! The enharmonic passage brought me out in goosebumps the first time I listened to it.

Wow.... *Much admiration to the Alice Borciani* for have sung that enigmatic enharmonic passage

Wonderful! Cavalieri’s Lamentations were my first experience with renaissance music, and I still find it to be some of the most beautiful music to listen to. Highly interesting to find that he employed such techniques, and I now wish to hear a full recording of the work with this passage as it was meant to be played!

This channel is amazing. Each video is densely packed with interesting history and theory, and the approach taken with the organization makes each video feel like an unintimidating and comprehensive small chunk of a large and potentially overwhelming narrative to follow otherwise. I've been really enjoying watching your videos. Thank you :)

To have commissioned an organ specifically to accommodate the additional sounds, plus the effort needed to learn to play competently must mean that many more examples of this type of music existed. I like to think of a box of manuscripts sitting in a box in some dusty attic somewhere. And Alice Borciani has a killer smile.

It's SO amazing to see the microtonality found in the early sources and to see the underrated 31edo (division of the octave into 31 equal parts) pops out in more and more places. Thank you very much!

I'm blown away by how fantastic that enharmonic passage sounded! Thank you for taking the trouble to do this, and I loved the humour, too 😀

It would be awesome if there ware a full recording of the entire piece, or rather of the whole collection "Lamentations and Responsories for the Holy week" led by Elam Rotem and these fine musicians.

Thanks again Elam. So when is your version of Cavalieri's works dropping?😆 I just read your thesis on Cavalieri (from the foot notes in the last video) and it was amazing to read (specially because I read it in my mind with your voice 🙃), and I think destiny is calling you to keep Cavalieri's soul alive. Thanks in so many ways Elam for your contributions to the musical world!

@Xanthe_Cat

4 жыл бұрын

You can pick up Elam’s excellent edition of the complete Lamentations and Responsories of Cavalieri from the Vatican MS over on IMSLP: imslp.org/wiki/Lamentationes_Jeremiae_Prophetae_(Cavalieri%2C_Emilio_de')

Just..wow! I don't know if the most epic thing is your joy in playing and explaining the thing or the fact that enharmonic finale sounds very good..so inspiring!

Holy. Shit. Just discovered this channel, awesome!

Superb research, superb interpretation (Alice is great! Amazing precision in such a difficult passage), superb edition... this is top quality content.

Delightfully informative video which proves that they are no new ideas under the sun (that haven't already been done before) ♥♥♥

Hats off to Alice! I too went to the Schola Cantorum back in the '80s.

No canine or feline hearing was damaged during the recording of the enharmonic passage.

@dAvrilthebear

4 жыл бұрын

how can you be sure of that?)

@Tizohip

3 жыл бұрын

?/

@fleetingmoment

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Tizohip It's a new twist on the old 'No animals were harmed during the making of this film' disclaimer sometimes seen in films and documentaries.

She has a great smile to match her stunning voice. Great video and clearly explained!

As always a great video! Since you like discussing "avant-garde" early music I would suggest a video about Gesualdo. I've always wondered why he composed like that but I don't have the amount of knowledge you have. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@carlosandres7006

5 жыл бұрын

Seconded

@enumoni2252

4 жыл бұрын

I just was on a gesualdo kick recently lol

Wow! Another impressive video from Early Music Sources! Great tuning from the soprano. Hard to achieve, for sure!

the "hard leaps" in the 2nd version sound so beautiful to me

Easily the most interesting Music History video I've ever seen. Thank you, all three!

Aside from the fascinating topic and all the aspects of its ingenious presentation: The nonverbal communication between organist and soprano in the last outtake is just so charming!

Her solo gave me chills, absolutely gorgeous!

I loved the graphic you inserted at 8:31; it clearly represented what I was thinking and feeling! 😮😊

Wouahou !! Bravo Alice !

I have always wondered why bother learning about music this old. These videos are so exciting. Now I know why.

Great! and beautiful, and very kind from you all, please take my deep appreciation, you make me really happy

Cavalieri also commissioned and projected the Burzi-Palmieri organ in S. Maria in Aracoeli, Rome. A very special organ in the renaissance italian panorama, at the time. It had two keyboards and a “ruckpositiv” (positivo tergale) very well known by Frescobaldi, who came in Rome in 1600 and lived in Rome near Aracoeli church

@dlevi67

4 жыл бұрын

Some technical notes/details on the organ (in Italian, but given your name it's probably not an issue for you). www.organcompendium.info/organi/italia29.html

I imagine trying to convince a singer do that in public without explanation would be a big ask.

I had to step away from the computer for a moment after hearing this.

Awesome--thanks for making this! And love the outtakes as well.

Those shifts are strikingly, almost frustratingly beautiful.

One of the best music channels on KZread!

Wonderful! I LOVED this episode is magic! Thanks!

Absolutely fascinating video! Very well made.

Very well researched. Thank you for your hard work and sharing this with us. I'll listen to some more Cavalieri now!

Incredible. What a fantastic presentation! Thank you for making it

When they actually performed the the phrase at 9:32 , I thought the enharmonic parts were done well enough it didnt sound bad to me, but this extra dimension of pitch is hard to use well and to appreciate, which is why it's basically disappeared from current music

@musamor75

4 жыл бұрын

You say it's hard to use. Obviously, on modern instruments. "Modern" instruments are just about 100% factory-made, and I'm including the Steinway grands. The Dodeka language was used to try to move away from the tonal code of dominant/tonic. There are still some cultures who have a richer tonal division. In fact the tone in itself is a rather interventional system. The natural Pythagoras scale is based on natural resonances (perfect fifths, natural thirds, "big" minor thirds, etc.). During the Renaissance era there was a lot of experimentation going on- actually much more than today, when the building of a replica needs years of research and study. That just goes to show how far we've strayed from true curiosity. We think that we can close the book. Wrong.

@KuraSourTakanHour

4 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree modern popular music is much less elaborate tonally (and melodically), but more diverse in the variety of sounds that can be used thanks to synthesized music. For me, its hard to sing in intervals smaller than a semitone, perhaps because I'm accustomed to semitones being the "smallest" interval, or maybe it is naturally hard to sing such tones, I'm not sure. However, the potential of enharmonics and microtonal has not even been scratched. In this composition it was just a very basic chord progression at the end

@JohannesKellerCembalo

4 жыл бұрын

@@KuraSourTakanHour I agree with you, there is a lot of unknown potential out there. And about how easy or difficult the execution is: just listen to traditional Serbian or Georgian music, to name just two examples. They sing (a cappella) the most exotic (to our ears) intervals without even thinking about them. They don't even name them, they are just there. I don't believe that the 'difficulty' was the reason western music history took a path of constant simplification.

Fantastic! A wonderful presentation.

Superb work. Best channel on KZread for analysis of “old” music. Eminently well researched and executed. Thanks!!

amazing! thank you for the explanation, what an effect this has! I see how that can be sung either sweet or harsh.

I am in great awe for the singer to produce these completely foreign intervalls!!

I absolutely love your videos - thank you! Alice is an incredible singer. What amazing skill.

This is so great! What a source material, what a performance and such a great research and video in general. Thank you all for this gem 💎

This is so extremely fascinating I cannot stop listening to it over and over again! And, of course, I will take a look to the rest of the materials you have in your channel. Thanks a lot!

I love this channel so much. I'm very thankful to the entire team behind Early Music Sources. Com I take back so much every single time. Best wishes from India

Exquisite, as usual. THANK YOU!

Microtonal properties found in early form of chordophone such Sumerian dutar and the legacy continues with Arabic, Syrian and Turkish Oud. Practically speaking, the old believe that a musician may play an out tune melody, can now be regards as playing 'bitter melody' range 1/5 of a regular wholetone.. awesome research

Thanks, this was enlightening and very much appreciated. Brilliant, well done.

Really incredible, I'm interested in this subject.Thanks for your awesome presentation. Excellent video

Fascinating and rich. Thank you all.

Outstanding. Thank you for sharing this.

I am blessed to have found this gem of a channel.

What an amazing video. Thank you so much.

You just kept me interested over 2 measures of previously unrecorded music for over 10 minutes. I would love to see other interpretations of ancient tonal arrangements.

The division of the tone in five steps is similar to today's definition of a tone being composed of nine commas, with a chromatic half step spanning 4 commas and a diatonic one doing 5, no matter whether up or down. I wonder if Alice is able to provide a sung exposition of both theories and highlight differences. She's so greatly endowed! Thanks for posting such nice videos guys

@scottjampa6374

4 жыл бұрын

what you described is more like 53edo, whereas what is described in the video is effectively 31edo as an extension of 1/4-comma meantone.

@miamonmiller3967

4 жыл бұрын

I had a similar comment in mind regarding commas, which were and still are theoretically important in classical music from the Middle East, especially Turkey where they utilize a system of modes that in aggregate are called 'makam' or maqam in Arabic.

@RayPerlner

3 жыл бұрын

What Stefano Di Garbo describes is actually 55 edo, close to 1/6 comma meantone. Note, there are 7 diatonic semitones and 5 chromatic semitones. 7*5+5*4=55. 53 edo, which approximates Pythagorean tuning would have the diatonic semitone at 4 commas and the chromatic semitone at 5.

Purely amazing all of you - thank you for creating such great content!

Finally I got to listen to that phrase in its original form! Thank you for this upload! It was a real treat!

Holy moly! Respect for the great performance of this historical piece!

The best, most concise, well organized, well prepared and well executed video I have seen on KZread. A model for other to follow, demonstrating that one does not need to begin with 'hey guys' followed by tedious repetitions of 'like'. Thank you.

i'm totally impressed how beautiful these 'forbidden ' harmonies sound.

This videos are A-MA-ZING😭😭😭 we cannot thank you enough!!!! 🍀✨

This channel is such a gift to humanity thank you for your hard work!!!

I find myself every several months or so listen to the reconstructed ending. Thank you for your wonderful work that is a truly professional channel.

Chapeau! Thanks for your ever interesting channel.

Lovely! Fascinating!

One of the easiest subs for me, great video! The performers were excellent!

Very interesting discussion! I very much enjoyed this. Thank you for sharing!

This is absolutely amazing!!

The way Alice smiles before singing the enharmonic passage haha

As a Cellist, my favorite scores were all Baroque, until now. I have a newfound appreciation for earlier musical styles/scores now! Thank you for opening my ears to this previously missed treasure!

Thank you for this--I love Cavalieri but had not encountered this piece of music. Fantastic singing!