It’s a Bus Rapid Transit system - without the Bus or the Rapid...

@philojudaeusofalexandria9556

3 жыл бұрын

and it's barely got the 'transit' part... the loop is a 1 mile distance. 10-15 minute walk.

@AussieWirraway

3 жыл бұрын

without the transit too really

@Shadowdncer

3 жыл бұрын

And without all the gross poor people.

@madsam0320

3 жыл бұрын

@@Shadowdncer don’t bet on it, snotty.

@Shadowdncer

3 жыл бұрын

@@madsam0320 sir, would you be interested in a sprinkling of sarcasm?

For those of us old enough to remember when Segway was supposed to "revolutionize transportation", Musk's loop feels like deja vu.

@jacobs2099

3 жыл бұрын

At least the segways didn't cost a city government 50 million dollars

@coweatsman

3 жыл бұрын

I've noticed a rent a segway pop up under some canvas in Glenelg near the square. Just seems to be the dumbest idea. Bikes do as much and more. You can even have e-bikes.

@seemysight

3 жыл бұрын

At least Segway did SOMETHING

@philojudaeusofalexandria9556

3 жыл бұрын

what about Dip n' Dots - is it still the ice cream of the future?

@jkk20

3 жыл бұрын

feels like the monorail thing on the simpsons.... everything.

The construction costs aren't the main issue. The daily use costs are much more problematic, as you need more vehicles & more drivers than any alternative, which drives up both fuel costs & wages.

@Veloxyll

3 жыл бұрын

And all those tyres. BRT vs light rail is like for like - the cost of tyres vs the cost of rails, effectively. Musk's loop meanwhile, uses a LOT more tyres. And you have to haul around all that car for each person.

@jackalenterprisesofohio

3 жыл бұрын

_Trollybuses_

@coreysuffield

3 жыл бұрын

they are working to have the LVCC loop automated by the end of the year(2021), the cars have the systems already built it, it is just a matter of collecting data and doing safety tests, but that takes time, the drivers are hired to get the system operational as soon as possible in the least complicated way

@nox5555

3 жыл бұрын

@@coreysuffield thats just idiotic, there have been automated people mover all over the world since the 80s. some of those system have as much computing power as a flipphone.

@louiscypher4186

3 жыл бұрын

@@coreysuffield You think building a project intended to be automated, making it not automated and then retro actively making it automated is the least complicated way of doing things? I think your confusing "complicated" with cheapest chattiest solution that they can delay indefinitely if needed.

Samething going on with people drooling over hyperloop when they should just be building highspeed rail instead

@afgor1088

3 жыл бұрын

Almost like that was elons plan all along

@RIFLQ

3 жыл бұрын

People will call Elon Pro-China

@neku2741

3 жыл бұрын

its for rich people to use, rich people refuse to use trains like us plebs

@Chris-Brown-

3 жыл бұрын

​@@neku2741 I can afford the 50c ticket to travel around the world in a hyperloop pod, but I cant afford the $25 it costs me to travel 10km to the hyperloop embarking center

@beneyweneys

3 жыл бұрын

Americans will literally avoid building railways like it’s the plague, what did you expect

“The greatest trick Musk ever pulled was convincing the world he was a genius” “The second greatest trick Musk ever pulled was convincing the world he is the good guy”

@operatorlink

3 жыл бұрын

Elon's solution appeals to the rich and elite that doesn't want to mix with public transport peasant.

@arnavrawat9864

3 жыл бұрын

Disagree. His greatest trick was innovation which brought forth progress the likes of which haven't been seem before

@_jp_0966

3 жыл бұрын

Genius or not, good guy or not, the guy is making change to the world and went from average to one of the richest people alive

@coweatsman

3 жыл бұрын

@@arnavrawat9864 He never actually invented anything. He's only grab the limelight for his own glory. The Tesla is not his for the credit.

@arnavrawat9864

3 жыл бұрын

@@coweatsman Tesla is not his. Buddy tesla has had the leadership of elon. Without elon tesla would've been like other electric car companies. It doesn't matter if elon didn't invent electric car, or found tesla. Because what he did was still fucking bonkers

The proposed pods that carry multiple people for the loop look like a waste of glass. We don't need futurism, we need efficient and reliable designs that have already been proven.

@michaeleverett1479

3 жыл бұрын

That's why buses, trams, suburban trains and metro trains should be used for fixed line public transport, not some crazy gadgetbahn. Monorails are a gadgetbahn, but they're relatively successful in some parts of the world especially when the line is nearly or fully elevated. A monorail should be considered regular public transport as the straddle beam (ALWEG) and suspended designs are well proven in practice. The rubber wheels of monorail trains allow it to climb steep gradients unlike conventional steel railways.

@lockbert99

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaeleverett1479 This has the benefit of theoretically allowing multipoint to multipoint without any transfers. It remains to be seen how merging will work.

@filipbitala2624

3 жыл бұрын

Hey dont you want to see all that white monotone tunnel from the inside, in all its mediocre glory

@enysuntra1347

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I, for one, don't doubt the ability of Tesla to build a van minibus in the slightest. Or the ability of any other car manufacturer. And it's not as if the end product of a Tesla "artist's rendition" looked A LOT more shoddy in the past, too.

@enysuntra1347

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaeleverett1479 You ever heard of cog railways? In a university where I studied for a time, there were demonstrators of the cog systems from its heyday. In the 1920s, the "animal class" of steam locomotives, however, proved that in *many* cases, a cog system wasn't necessary; this led to the Reichsbahn Baureihe DRG BR 95. Still, there are some alpine cog railways left. With new semiconductor technology and the incredibly lightness of electric motors, it's not that big of a problem to add a cog in the middle for the steep parts to be retracted in normal operation.

there's one upside to the boring company, when everyone realizes how impressively stupid it is we can use the tunnels for metro

@guiagaston7273

3 жыл бұрын

They are waaaaay to small for that

@afgor1088

3 жыл бұрын

@@guiagaston7273 I mean there's metros that are similar sizes depends on what exact size they go for in the end

@guiagaston7273

3 жыл бұрын

@@afgor1088 you know of metros that are as small as model Xs? because that is what fits in the tunnel under the convention center.

@Veloxyll

3 жыл бұрын

@@guiagaston7273 Maybe we could do something like a novelty train. Those are not very large tunnels by the looks of it. You could possibly replace it with mini-busses though

@jeremypnet

3 жыл бұрын

@@guiagaston7273 the deep tube tunnels used in the London Underground are about the same width as the tunnels in the LA Loop. But they were mostly built 100 years ago and are problematic for evacuation.

Trains and Busses: **look at Loop and Hyperloop** Trains to Busses: "Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power"

@procrastination168

3 жыл бұрын

I think you are discounting the fact that the tunnels underground essentially transforms a 2D transport space into a 3D space. Each level is a multiplier, like having another BRT system on top of an existing one. And with tunnels that can be dug cheaper than roads can be built, the efficiencies of scale can quickly add up.

@sambal777

3 жыл бұрын

@@procrastination168 Have you ever heard of a Metro or Subway as they are also called? xDDD

@anonymousarmadillo6589

3 жыл бұрын

@@procrastination168 You can have a multilevel train/subway system too.

@Max_Le_Groom

3 жыл бұрын

The Busses, They be Bussin'.

@Wingnut326

3 жыл бұрын

@@procrastination168 found the guy who has never been on a subway system

Musk fans can't take this without tears. Great video, mate

@jonnupe1645

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a Musk fan, and I agree with this video. Cheers m8

@JJ-yz6xe

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonnupe1645 you’re pretty damn rare

@jonnupe1645

3 жыл бұрын

@@JJ-yz6xe I'm the wrong 1% lol

@francessimmonds5784

3 жыл бұрын

Jon Nupe how can you still be a fan? He's nothing but a grifter, a con man. This is a joke and cost millions.

@jonnupe1645

3 жыл бұрын

@@francessimmonds5784 while this point can be distorted pretty easily, but there can be qualities about a person that one can like, even if that person's moral goals are warped. I don't like Hitler, but I can't say the same about his paintings, it's good work. But the guy who made it, also liked to play with poop, I don't like to play with poop. Although I still like his work. (only if it's with real paint though, Idk what this man did with his free time) Elon factually HELPED push ev's to the market, for better or worse, we can use this technology to better ourselves. Being able to have my own 'gas station' equivalent (charge station) at home is a solid win. If the law doesn't disagree, we can up-cycle old batteries, motors, upholstery materials and Avoid landfills ( if stuff is going to end up there anyway might as well use it as much as possible). With that said, I still don't like or agree with quite a few things he does and said. Extraterrestrials are real (fight me, if you dare), tunnels are a no go on earth, neuralink being bluetooth is a NIGHTMARE of a bad idea. So ya

To free Las Vegas from cars has an easy solution: let cars park outside of the city in a parking garage and let a tram carry people to the center. In Holland we have already solutions like that

@TotalTirpitz

3 жыл бұрын

OR we could Organise their cars in an: Ultra capacity condensed archieve; then transport these people on Hyper Logic Self correcting articulated units into the city. The Hyper Logic Self Correcting Articulated Units, would be RGB. I'd like $30 Billion for a pilot program.

@joelman1989

3 жыл бұрын

But we are American. Buses and trains are socialist. Along with free healthcare and apparently common sense ideas.

@brownerjerry174

3 жыл бұрын

@@joelman1989 that's a genuine reason like not even sarcasm, rich really don't like having to sit next to 'normal' and poor people, they are overly represented in your government, that's why you don't have any well-planned functional public transport in US(there are exceptions of course), they would rather spend billions digging entirely new tunnels and building even more ridiculous ideas than adopt something that is proven to work just so they don't have to interact with the plebs.

@liamcowling9906

2 жыл бұрын

They are doing this in the UK too in some cities. Called Park and Ride.

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

This is a good idea for the Strip. Las Vegas made its downtown Main Street pedestrian only about 25 years ago. It’s now The Fremont Street Experience. They could do the same for much of Las Vegas Blvd. Having the Las Vegas Loop in place will allow people to quickly travel from any casino to any other, eliminating cars from the surface. Trams or buses could operate along the Strip also. They would be slow, with frequent stops, but really good for sightseeing. And for tourists with tired feet.

Can we talk about the needless RGB that these "loops" have everywhere?

@qweqwe9678

3 жыл бұрын

@@SomeoneGreenPlane gamers around the world can assure that

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

They had planned to only have them on some of the time, but the passengers seem to like them. They don’t affect the operation of the system.

But where can you put all those cute color changing lights on a BRT system? Clearly, you just don’t get it.... 🤣

@Veloxyll

3 жыл бұрын

You could just slap some neons on your bus and bam

@re57k

3 жыл бұрын

make the stoplights and blinkers 10x it's original size

@Slimmeyy

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like they could very easily be fitted to the inside of the BRT tracks. But only have them turn on when it gets dark. Y'know, like regular street lights.

A proposal to take us back to the days of constant road investment. Would do nothing to improve congestion or driving times, only slow them down. Just build more transit.

@michaeleverett1479

3 жыл бұрын

Busway/ BRT systems with buses on their own right of way even at grade (3 - 5 minute frequency) with train like platforms (all door boarding, turnstiles and off board fare collection) are perfect for medium capacity applications. Yes, even the largest buses (bi articulated bus) have less capacity per unit than long trams/ light rail, but the superior stopping distance of buses make up for their high frequencies even when operating at grade. Trams/ light rail have much higher operating and maintenance costs. A long tram like those in North America can only be a 3 carriage EMU set (60 m) due to restrictions of length of the city block. Massively long trams at grade contribute to road congestion due to blockage of road intersections. Buses are competitively manufactured by hundreds of companies around the world whereas trams or trains are only manufactured by a handful of companies which are subjected to highly expensive no bid contracts. Bus manufacturers can also custom design buses with high floor platform boarding and doors on both sides of the vehicle. Electric propulsion on buses (trolleybuses of battery powered buses) with driver training on smooth bitumen can enhance the buses stability, reduce jerkiness and increase ride quality.

@CharlsonS

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaeleverett1479 At this point you may as well just build a proper tramway already, considering the expense of a high quality BRT systems. I'd always prefer a tramway if frequency has to be really tight in order to match capacity. 5 min frequencies and better can easily be done, if right of way and signal priority exist. Though 5 mins should be enough, otherwise consider a light metro, if crowding gets an issue. Spending to much money on infrastructure like tunnels, or elevated structures "just" to run buses doesn't seem like a great deal to me.

@Sizifus

3 жыл бұрын

Musk seem to want to introduce "efficient" systems that keep rich people separate from the poor masses. God forbid you create something akin to public transport, lmao

@Antiyoukai

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sizifus Who wants to take the bus and train with all the weird people filling it?

@peskypigeonx

3 жыл бұрын

@@Antiyoukai Who would want to ride a car alone with a crazy driver?

8:10 lol i love how 1. it blocks an entire lane to use slow lifts 2. it still has no exits or any safety features... 3. and is utterly unrealistic 9:43 not even handrails or covers. ... people walking by break their neck falling. gj

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

Good thing they are not building those.

@FizzleFX

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinbailey8827 they did one prototype. Ofc it's too insanely stupid to get a pass. Sadly much more got one...

@clinton8421

Жыл бұрын

That's because it was never seriously considered, even by Elon Musk. It's a half-baked idea that is designed to look futuristic, make people think that public transportation is obsolete, and sabotage America's infrastructure upgrades. A high-speed rail or metro means fewer Teslas on the road, and he can't have that.

How the shivering hell do you name a bus company "IndyGo" - and then have not a drop of blue on the vehicles? :)

@chanachon56

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because the budget didn't specify Blue Paint.

@dr.science_0177

3 жыл бұрын

Or purple. I'm pretty sure indigo is more purple than blue

Bruh, it's just taxi's on a private road with RGB lights.

@markharmon4963

3 жыл бұрын

They will be automated free taxis that run on an exclusive tunnel on over 40 stops throughout the city which you will be able to ride from point to point. The next phase is under way.

@LautaroArgentino

3 жыл бұрын

@@markharmon4963 so why not just use the money to build a BRT or better yet, an actual metro? Musk is trying to reinvent the wheel at best, and straight up scamming at worse. This sounds more of a marketing stunt rather than a genuine attemp to improve the lives of common men.

@markharmon4963

3 жыл бұрын

@@LautaroArgentino A BRT requires elevated tracks and set aside real estate to accommodate it. Tunnels can go in practically any arbitrary direction and not interfere with traffic, buildings, th roads, views and are quiet. TBC is making tunneling cheaper and faster. And at the end of the day it would only be a BRT. 40,000 passengers a day is far less than I expected for a BRT. The Loop carrys more than 4,000 passengers per hour. And that is with chauffeured cars. When automation is on line pod capacity is boosted by 25%. And no bloody intermittent stops.

@LautaroArgentino

3 жыл бұрын

@@markharmon4963 you can build tracks for BRT underground. It'd basically be a suboptimal metro, but if you are really that concerned about money it would work. You should probably make it a trolley, so you don't have to concern yourself with battery use. Again, Musk is trying to reinvent the wheel.

@Boxhead42

3 жыл бұрын

@@markharmon4963 That 4k p/hr claim is through a controlled and testing environment. The real numbers will come out when hundreds or even thousands descend on these during the height of the actually events.

It is an attempt at marketing Teslas. That's it.

@ouicertes9764

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong, it's an attempt to market HIMSELF, as he is his own brand. He needs the hype for his other project to find investors. He is litterally a human Ponzi scheme. He could litterally take a useless invention and have you think it's genius and futuristic, because ie he believes in it, it must be, right? Doesn't matter if it's true or practical. That's why he likes being called a genius philantroprist, or a personnal earth savior-jesus.

@ultrademigod

2 жыл бұрын

@@ouicertes9764 He's a modern day PT Barnum, who he has mobs of fanboys defending his stupid antics.

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

The Loops they have built so far are attempts to market The Boring Company. The Convention Center Loop proved they could deliver on a project and they could tunnel with minimal disruption at the surface. That helped them sell the Las Vegas Loop to Clark County for the low low price of Free. Free isn’t really free if it brings a lot of traffic disruption. The Las Vegas loop will be to sell full Loop systems to other cities. It will demonstrate trip times and capacity.

I'll give it to Elon he's knowledgeable in his field namely running a business, but he knows nothing about Urban planning, or even Public transport for that matter

@JamesSchulte

3 жыл бұрын

Why would he? He's a billionaire, he doesn't care about us commoners

@curious5887

3 жыл бұрын

Billionaire with no knowledge of Urban planning, and also public transport, he just a science guy without understand of how public transport work, US has been destroyed by a capitalism and also run too much by capitalism

@oldcowbb

3 жыл бұрын

@@curious5887 he is no science guy please not even engineer

@curious5887

3 жыл бұрын

@@oldcowbb he learn physic, but not at scientist level, his warning about AI is just a marketing promo for his neuralink chip, and he warn the danger of AI without any research or knowledge, so he is not Tony Stark or Thomas Edison heir, he fear AI, while Tony don’t, because Tony had AI assistant in his suit

@michaeleverett1479

3 жыл бұрын

Urban planning & transport planning have a totally different set of skills when compared to a Physicist, Aerospace Engineering, Particle Physics, Laser Physics, Space Scientist, Chemist and etc. Automotive, maritime and aviation are radically different from public transport with their thinking even though all of these industries use vehicles. It's often assumed that all our transport problems particularly public transport can be easily solved by scientists just by using seeing a network of lines with some fancy technology. The wider public often see the bunch of lines on a public transport system and think it's incredibly easy; they're sadly mistaken. Designing a multi modal public transport system as a fully networked grid with good frequency across the whole metropolitan area while being cost effective are not an easy task. Politics often make improvements to public transport a long winded progress even with a straightforward extension of the network. There're lots of effort to making a good public transport system by design and consultation between politicians, urban planners and acceptance of the wider community. All scientists have no understanding in urban planning such as politics, land use planning, relevant statistics, capital costs (construction), maintenance and operating costs.

It hurt my head when I realized all this fuss was basically just two more lanes of road. Two low-volume lanes of road.

Great video!

Las Vegas should built a subways serving the Vegas strip and connecting it's two airports since the strip is pretty dense and walkable. Elon Musks tunnels are terrible and not innovative.

@coreysuffield

3 жыл бұрын

"Elon Musks tunnels are terrible and not innovative." how do you know? they haven't even built a real one yet, you haven't even seen one yet. the LVCC is just simple local loop system to get across a convention center to save people from walking up to 45 minutes and get there in just 2-3 min a real city loop would have an array of tunnels 2x2 or 3x3 and branch of to many destinations across a city the problem with a subway is it is super expensive and it is only 2 dimensional, and it is only a sequential point to point system, and takes for ever to build out meanwhile a "City Loop" is 3 dimensional, multi-point to multi-point on demand transit(cost and time to build out are unknown to due increases in technology by the time they start actually constructing one)

@Goldsteinphoto

3 жыл бұрын

@@coreysuffield Yep.

@seemysight

3 жыл бұрын

@@coreysuffield a single point a to point b loop cost more that any other system possible or imaginary. A real loop would not exist

@ddrhazy

3 жыл бұрын

@@coreysuffield LOL. Go back to electrek.co and peddle your BS there.

@X862go

3 жыл бұрын

@@coreysuffield I know all these people on KZread 🤣🤣. Well I've Google it and I road a bus to school 🙋‍♂️.

If there's one city that would benefit from a light rail or Subway system it's Las Vegas. It's tons of tourists without cars. Atleast implement it around the strip itself.

@checkoutmyyoutubepage

3 жыл бұрын

And it’s all centralized.

@Goldsteinphoto

3 жыл бұрын

Vegas has a monorail system that opened in 2004. People don't use it enough to make profitable. It is about 4 miles long and cost about $150M per mile to build back around 2000.

@andrewlucia865

3 жыл бұрын

@@Goldsteinphoto I think a good part of the reason why that is, is due to the fact said monorail doesn't go to the airport, where most of the tourists enter the city from. I bet that it would see a lot more use if it did.

@markharmon4963

3 жыл бұрын

@@Goldsteinphoto Is that the one that goes to Luxor. It is a joke. I had no idea it was that much.

@alcoyne3333333333333

3 жыл бұрын

Vegas isn't that big a place . Doesn't need this

My KZread reccs are just beating up Musk, and I’m here for it

@redradcomrade

2 жыл бұрын

Same lol

@tethergobrrr

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Australians be hating Musk obviously and the algorithm’s put me in that pipeline. Good.

@rohan14040

2 жыл бұрын

lol after watching adam something , i am getting recomendation of this chanel

@tethergobrrr

2 жыл бұрын

@@rohan14040 Yep, binged there, ended up here.

@rohan14040

2 жыл бұрын

@@tethergobrrr though adam something is hungarian not australian. i guess

The lengths people go to avoid admitting that transportation on rails is a really good invention is always astonishing.

So, to sum up the video in a few sentences. Metros/Light Rail/Trams can carry the biggest amounts of passengers thanks to their ability to extend to 2-3+ (zero pollution most of the time) carriages, something a Bus (Rapid) System will always struggle to do. However, the Bus will always carry far more than a single car or pod will ever be able to.

@andrewfranklin4429

2 жыл бұрын

On the contrary, this BRT is a joke. It is only 7.3 miles long, has only 3 stations, is mostly a concrete track overland wasting gobs of space and splitting the surrounding area and travels at an average of only 22mph, also has to negotiate traffic lights and transports only 40,000 PER DAY. Not per hour - that’s per day! And the cost of this wondrous system of slow buses? $98 million dollars. That’s $13.4m per mile and that isn’t even underground! And Aussie Wirraway goes on to laud the IndyGo Redline BRT which costs $19m per mile all above ground! This compares to the Vegas Loop which will be 29 miles long, have 51 stations, will transport at least 57,000 people PER HOUR and costs taxpayer ZERO dollars. Even if taxpayers were paying, the cost of Loop tunnels is as low as $6m per mile and cost of stations is $2m each. BRT just doesn’t compare.

In your conclusion i missed that the solutions are denser neighborhoods, bicycle infrastructure, light rail for high capacity routes, busses for low capacity routes, regional and long distance high speed rail, as well as generally taking away space from cars and giving it to people

@dafoex

Жыл бұрын

Cars still have some place, I mean try taking bags for a family of four on a two week holiday and not losing one of the bags on the train. If you must attack personal transport, attack it in the towns where pedestrians walk around. Cars and bikes should never have the opportunity to run into pedestrians. Bikes especially, since I know two people who've been punched by a cyclist who's then robbed them and sped off. A car barreling towards you is scary, but no one cares about a bike doing the same until you see the fist raise to the level of your face, by which its too late.

@ch98hb

Жыл бұрын

​@@dafoex pedestrians are not the offenders, cars kill them and cyclists, not the other way around. Of course everyone needs to abide by traffic rules, the consequences of cars not following them are way more severe though

Ah yes, fix traffic by putting it underground. Truly a “genius” idea.

@dafoex

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he is trying to one-up those underground roundabouts?

I really can't stand how many of these public transit alternatives exist. Every day I learn about a new one and how it failed. Aerotrain, the other Aerotrain, 3d-printed personal pods, hyperloops, trackless light rails... It's ridiculous. Think of where we could be as a society if all the brains who are inventing these things worked on developing better light rails and bus systems!

Can you imagine if the Vegas Loop were a government project? Can you imagine how much scrutiny it would get for "wasteful spending"? But because it was built by a supposed "entrepreneur", no one says a thing about what a dumb idea it is

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

One of the alternatives that was proposed was an underground train for FOUR TIMES as much money. THAT would have been wasteful spending!

@vulduv

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinbailey8827 That doesn't say much... Sure the metro system costs 4 times as much to build when compared to this car based tunnel. But if the metro moves over four times as many people over the day. Then the metro would end up being cheaper *per person it carries.* And this isn't even mentioning the running cost of both systems.

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

@@vulduv In this particular case a metro would never break even based on cost per passenger or operating costs. So far, the busiest day this system has experienced was 27,000 passengers, most of those in the 8 hours that the SEMA show was open. The loop carried 27,000 passengers that day. If there had been a metro there instead, it would have carried 27,000 people. The most they expect to have is about 60,000 people per day over a 13 hour period. Either the Loop or the train would be able to handle that. They'll carry the same number of passengers, but the underground train would have cost four times as much to do it. It doesn't matter how many more the train could carry at a time, because it can only carry the number who show up. The bigger your train, the more empty it will run. In terms of operating cost, the LVCVA is paying TBC $6 million a year to operate it. Let's assume the metro costs half as much a year to operate. That means it would take 50 years to make up for the fact that the train cost at least $150 million more to build. Even if the train were absolutely free to operate, it would take 25 years to break even.

Elon Musk is great at taking other people ideas, like the hyperloop, giving them a new cool name, and then selling them as his own. To maintain his status as a genius inventor he has to keep coming up with new ideas, like this dumb Las Vegas Loop thing which is just laughable.

@dafoex

Жыл бұрын

I remember the hyperloop being an idea way before I heard of Elon. I first heard of it as a possibility for a transatlantic train system, where it was a maglev train in a vacuum tube tunnel, which removes almost all friction and allows it to reach supersonic speeds. Musk just gave it a brand name and said he'd build it eventually™

Can’t wait to watch it fail miserably! Cheers!

@tandinwangyel1897

3 жыл бұрын

Why would you hate on somebody who is working for the betterment of the people?

@jimlincoln1283

3 жыл бұрын

@@tandinwangyel1897 The system makes zero sense he should have stopped it when it became apparent that it was.

@tandinwangyel1897

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimlincoln1283 Same thing people said before when he was bringing some innovation in Spacex and Tesla. It never made sense to them but now they are back to their cave. I wouldn't be shock if same things happen this time with the tunnel loop.

@Account.for.Comment

3 жыл бұрын

@@tandinwangyel1897 SpaceEx did everything Nasa did with more cost. His greatest contribution to Tesla is marketing. Tesla got more junk features but the money of its investers are the one keeping it alive.

@tandinwangyel1897

3 жыл бұрын

@@Account.for.Comment Do some research. You have misinformation with regard to Elon and his work

I think the loop is just a gimmick for rising Musk’s stock prices

"Environmentally friendly" but what about the lithium batteries?

@dafoex

Жыл бұрын

Or the coal in the power stations?

@williamhuang8309

Жыл бұрын

@@dafoex That bit is less significant since we have technologies that can produce energy with a smaller environmental impact, but lithium batteries and batteries in general are much harder to make clean.

So, basically spend billions to create an underground traffic jam

Nice, I always appreciate a Musk reality check as well as rational talk on public transit.

He just want to sell his cars.

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

He wants to sell more tunnels.

It's almost as if no Musk fan is taking into consideration a concept known as Passengers/Vehicle(or Operator).

Mom can we get a BRT? No, we have a BRT at home. The BRT at home:

I tell u wut playa, that obahn works bloody brilliantly for an aging piece of infrastructure. It can get me from TTP to CBD faster during peak hour than driving down northeast road or lower northeast road. My biggest gripe with the Obahn is that the way services are organized on it leaves a bit to be desired as far as being intuitive for someone unfamiliar. More specifically it’s too easy to catch the wrong bus relative to where you’re going. Real world example, I needed to get to the city and didn’t want to drive in and deal with the hassle of finding parking. So I got to the closest interchange and caught the bus into town arriving soonest. Unfortunately for me that happened to be a bus that went on a circuitous route before getting back onto the obahn costing me valuable time and making me late for something. I later learnt that there is a particular stop for the busses going express to town. But there was no signage or anything to make that clear. It annoys me greatly that not all the obahn oriented bus routes are designed to radiate outwards from their obahn path which would better serve the suburbs surrounding interchanges. Some routes go on a suburban jaunt between interchanges for reasons I do not fully understand. I’d much prefer the bus stop closest to my place be part of a route that can go to the nearest interchange that’s also on the way to avoid back tracking and then for that bus to continue on the obahn to town. At present it’s more efficient to drive to an interchange because the buses that will get me to an interchange not only slowly take a winding route there but they also back track to an interchange that’s more out of the way creating more distance to make up but also I have to get off that bus at the interchange and then wait for a bus that will get me express to town. That just seems ridiculous when with a little bit of lateral thinking they could come up with something better by better utilizing what they already have. Also that Vegas loop looks lame as hell. Musky promised a lot and delivered bugger all for the 50 plus million that all cost.

so he made a bus lane, underground, filled it with lower capacity vehicles, and that's supposed to solve traffic? Does Elon know about this ancient technology called Tha TrAiN?

Good man, replacing it with a tram would be far better!

For people living in distant parts of the world with their social media flooded with fancy lies and stuff, this is really eye opening and informative, great work👍

The O’Bahn should absolutely be replaced with light rail at a minimum, and ideally connect with existing tram services in front of the train station. Adelaide railway station just needs a throughway and honestly a connection from the O’Bahn entry and railway station wouldn’t be exceptionally complicated, relative to how most other modern cities are much denser than Adelaide.

Since the route is so short, it should be seen as a test route, as there have been other (new) solutions for transport. Some were failures, others revolutionised. I think this is normal. I see the following Options: 1. the whole thing is discontinued after a certain time (The Skybus Pittsbugh; M-Bahn Berlin) 2. it continues as an isolated operation, but does not really spread (suspension railways along the lines of the Wuppertal suspension railway). 3. the concept is improved and the improved solution spreads (Londen Underground in steam operation) 4. it spreads almost unchanged (railways in general; motorways)

Elon Musk does have some very... passionate... ideas. Nice breakdown!

The loop is nothing more then a simple one way road tunnel. Hardly a solution to mass transit issues around the world. Only trams, metro and high speed railway combined with high frequency bus transport are the solution.

@herrklugscheiser2330

3 жыл бұрын

Road tunnels have safety features

@Lorre982

2 жыл бұрын

or trolley bus( full elettric bus)

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

The tunnels are tunnels. A Loop is a system of tunnels, optimized for throughput, including all systems for maintenance, safety, and security.

For a cautionary tale of Buses operating on a guideway consider the case of the city of Nancy in France, where they are tearing out the busway and installing light rail. The guided busway had much lower initial costs but the concept caused premature pavement and tire wear, and suspension component failure.

@louiscypher4186

3 жыл бұрын

Busway's are best used where there isn't high enough capacity to justify light rail. We have one in my area which is pretty much designed to service schools. This is great as during peak times it takes a lot of buses off our roads for a 31 km stretch and links them directly to two major rail stations. it started off servicing just 1570 passengers per week in 2003. Even now it's hard to justify upgrading to light rail when it's just 30,000 riders per week.

I'm not usually a fan of BRTs, but I'll make an exception for the O-Bahn as it actually works *really* frikkin well. Replacing it with a tram extension sounds good, but when you think about the number of direct, no-interchange journeys that the O-Bahm provides high quality service too, I actually think it should stay. The only thing I'd really like to see done is for it to be fitted with electric catenary so that we can convert the buses along the routes using it to trolley buses (with modest batteries for the final few KMs of their route). It's more sustainable and cheaper in the long run than using electric buses with gigantic batteries, and it's proven popular in Europe for extending their trolley systems.

Am I the only one that noticed but all of these "new innovative mass transportaion" vehicles are just updated buses\trains that have been used since the 1800's???

@petrfedor1851

2 жыл бұрын

Visualy updated. Functionally they are worse.

Overlord Elon's loop is literally just the same as the above-ground road system, but underground instead to make it more expensive.

@markharmon4963

3 жыл бұрын

No, it was built underground because that is what the call for bids defined and rightly so. Surface traffic in Las Vegas is hell and contributing 4000 rides an hour would have made it that much worse.

@Alias_Anybody

3 жыл бұрын

@@markharmon4963 Does Las Vegas have a tram/light rail? That would completely replace large parts of the surface traffic and may make anything underground redundant.

@markharmon4963

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alias_Anybody Maybe. Maybe the planners decided it would be easier to make a dedicated slim tunnel than to set all the alignments of a rail and upset traffic for years and dedicate all of the road service and traffic signals just to have a train that gets stuck in traffic and would have to demo the ground floor lobby of four exhibition centers in order to point to point people where they wanted. I was not in the room when they made that decision. All I know is they asked for an underground system.

@markharmon4963

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alias_Anybody No, I do not think Las Vegas has a light rail system.

@Alias_Anybody

3 жыл бұрын

@@markharmon4963 1. Electric trams are older than the damn city of Las Vegas. Not having one in the first place is a huge oversight and a testament to persistent stupidity. 2. They won't get stuck in traffic if they get at least two lanes just for themself. Those two could offer a drastically higher capacity than two car lanes. That's how it's done everywhere as long as you have at least 4 lanes total without having to tear down historical buildings or something. 3. If it HAS to be underground, make a Subway, not a stupid car tunnel. Though a Subway without proper bus- and tram-lines is not ideal.

I love the Adelaide O-Bahn, I used to catch it to and from high-school for 5ish years. It was always a blast when speeding down the track.

A lot of people don't like public transport but want to get places quickly. They're never going to ride a bus or train though.

Amazing content! Elon Musk knows his stuff with Tesla and SpaceX but in other areas, he's just as clueless as anyone else - The problem isn't that he's wrong about public transportation and COVID-19 and baby names etc. No, the problem is that he is taken seriously simply because he's rich and famous and those that try to counter his ideas and plans with counter-arguments are met with disapproval by Musk's fans.

@Ruinwyn

3 жыл бұрын

He doesn't even know his stuff regarding those. SpaceX consepts about mars colonization are extremely unrealistic and missing key elements. Tesla is pretty much entirely marketed on providing eventually Full Self Driving, and they aren't even close to achiving that. Their sensor array isn't sufficient for self driving (and they are removing radar). Having test driven both Tesla and VW Id3 (in Europe obviously) it was very clear Tesla was less aware of it's surrounding and noticably missinterperted multiple road features. While VW might not have been even trying to interpret all of them eather, it also didn't try to drive us to every bus stop. If a Tesla can't make a smooth turn on motorway exit ramp, on pristine road with fresh lane markers on clear day, or read a speed limit sign on straight motorway, it's nowhere near truly self driving.

@Pancakegr8

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ruinwyn I’m starting to think self driving is pointless. Do we have to be constantly entertained to the point that we need movies and video games during a car ride?

@Goldsteinphoto

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ruinwyn Since you did not drive a Tesla with the beta Full Self Driving how could you know?

@theodiscusgaming3909

3 жыл бұрын

@@Pancakegr8 self driving cars would greatly reduce the number of traffic accidents (if they work properly of course)

@Ruinwyn

3 жыл бұрын

@@Goldsteinphoto the sensors are still the same. If the car doesn't know where the road/lane is it can't drive itself. If it can't read the speedlimits it can't drive itself. Are you claiming they haven't kept the AP up to date regarding these basic features? If the cameras miss the speedlimit sign, they miss the speedlimit sign. Doesn't matter if it's AP or FSD. That should only determine what it does with the info. And if they miss 2 signs on straight highway, there is no chance it's any better at detecting them in residential areas.

High Frequency is a good thing. Passenger demand responds much more to reduced waiting time on Metro-like (turn up and go) service than to a similar reduction to the in vehicle component of the journey - as waiting time has a higher 'generalised' cost for most passengers. I would suspect that the bus service will carry substantially more passengers with (say) 30 buses per hour, than a rail service along the same corridor offering 4 trains per hour. Both clearly much better than 30 cars per hour going from one side of an exhibition centre to the other at a cost of $50 million plus though!

@alexseguin5245

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the demand, but an advantage of some of the new automated light rail systems is that you can run smaller trains in general, and even smaller trains off-peak hours. A new system being built in Montreal will have trains passing every 4 to 5 minutes at any time of the day.

@curious5887

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexseguin5245 still better than Loop system, which just use car or pods, which have smaller capacity than Monstreal small light rail train

@alexseguin5245

3 жыл бұрын

@@curious5887 Yeah, just about anything beats that loop system lol.

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

The next time one of these projects comes up for bids, the people who could have done it better and cheaper need to get a proposal together and submit it! Otherwise The Boring is going to have the lowest bid and the winning proposal.

Adelaide could really do with some medium density housing. Soooo many standalone houses around the O-Bahn!

Thanks for the video. I see it was made a few years ago. Being of Dutch back ground, but living in Adelaide, I see so many mistakes in our roads, footpaths, bike paths. We are always 40 years behind everything in this country. The o Bahn was started in 1985. What is the life of the o Bahn before it will need to be replaced. Hopefully, a smart government ( not many of those around) will replace with trams. Now that battery operated trams exist overseas , it could make a significant improvement. The city is terrible with all the buses. All the fumes and noise. Buses are such a terrible form of transport.

You've got to do a video on possible O-Barn extensions, being golden grove or other new possible routes

@AussieWirraway

3 жыл бұрын

I will and I should, might be an SA state election video though, Labor looks like it might commit to it

@michaeleverett1479

3 жыл бұрын

@@AussieWirraway, You should a video about converting the Adelaide O'bahn guided busway to train/ heavy rail. While the North East O'bahn busway is one of the best public transport services in Adelaide, it fails miserably when large volume buses during peak hour from the O'bahn tunnel enter onto Grenfell to Currie Street. Putting O'bahn buses in a tunnel under Grenfell to Currie Street to increase reliability, capacity and frequency defeats the purpose of the buses flexibility. A bus only tunnel with 2 lanes per direction like sections of Brisbane's busway under Brisbane's CBD is prohibitively expensive in while being totally outclassed in capacity with a long train in a tunnel.

@michaeleverett1479

3 жыл бұрын

Adelaide Metro's official website (see link below) shows all the possible bus lines operating only the O'bahn guided busway. Some of these O'bahn bus lines only operate in the morning and afternoon peak hours with high passenger volumes. In other times, passengers are forced to change buses to from the off peak O'bahn bus lines and other bus lines to continue along the concrete guideway into Adelaide CBD. adelaidemetro.com.au/Timetables2/Special-services/Adelaide-O-Bahn The link below shows all stopping patterns and frequency for the entire O'bahn. This link shows that the O'bahn busway with buses branching away from the busway stations are a complicated system with low frequency buses in mixed traffic which hurts potential passengers. railmaps.com.au/routedetails.php?TableSelect=5092

@jacintaedwards1123

3 жыл бұрын

Trains are way more efficient than buses. But try explaining to a south australian that a train carries more passengers than a bus. Their reply would be "Well we'll just have 10 buses which equals one train"............but they just don't get it do they? And they say the Irish are dimwitted.

@jacintaedwards1123

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaeleverett1479 Exactly. TRAIN please!!!!!

One battery accident later and you have the world's first crematorium with RGB lights

@markharmon4963

3 жыл бұрын

No there will not be speeds fast enough to make that likely to happen. And the tunnel is ventilated. It could be a simple solution to plumb in fire suppression equipment.

@EgorKaskader

3 жыл бұрын

@@markharmon4963 *battery* accident. And the low speed is a whole separate problem for it that only makes it even worse in comparison to other public transit systems.

@markharmon4963

3 жыл бұрын

@@EgorKaskader I think the battery fires are not as common as people think. They are rare. I good foam fire suppression system would be a reasonable requirement. I know the current system is well ventilated.

@EgorKaskader

3 жыл бұрын

@@markharmon4963 And the people in the car, just let them die? Besides, you know what the problem is with the battery fires? They keep restarting. And if a freaking subway system *designed to double as a nuclear shelter* cannot pull out all the smoke, then I highly doubt a small tunnel without any ventilation shafts or filtering equipment rated to keep the air clear from nuclear fallout for a whole week would be able to pull all of it away. There's also no good way to *escape* the tunnel if the fire starts aside from just hoping the signalling still works and the vehicles can move, which for *any* European tunnel system would be unacceptable. This goes for subways, light rail subways, and even just car tunnels. Even the tiny system of the Vegas Loop shows the problem, but if you scale it up to an actual public transit system? Yeah, good luck. There's also the simple problem of the fire inside the small tunnel potentially damaging the ventilation itself, and there not being any way to vent smoke *outside* the stations, putting passengers there at risk, and there not being any fire survival shelters as mandatory for car tunnels above certain lengths, varied by country, but always required.

@markharmon4963

3 жыл бұрын

@@EgorKaskader I think the foam is an effective suppressant. The tunnels are ventilated. Public car tunnels have far greater risks. This will only have automated vehicles on a closed system. I do not think either of us advocate closing public tunnels.

I think they should focus on cheap tunnels. There are several uses for them, like bike lanes and infrastructure cables. A small tram in those tunnels, connected to the major subway lines, could be very cool.

Why don't you just use Kangaroos as transportation and hop with them in their pouches?

@AussieWirraway

3 жыл бұрын

always

@erdnussbier4260

3 жыл бұрын

fackin straya mate

@michaeleverett1479

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

It's so fun to know that the system from Elon could very easily be rebuilt to a metro or BRT (don't know if the tunnels have the space for busses though)

@petrfedor1851

2 жыл бұрын

They seems pretty small so metro with tiny wagons (like lot of UK do) seems more reasonable.

I perfer trollybuses......which worked.

If you thought the O-Bahn sucks, then the Tesla Loop brings public transport to a whole new level of bad.

How is it legal to have the tunnel built like that? Are there emergency exits we don't see? There has to be right? Otherwise it would be a death trap

Actually Elon Musk's tunnel could be converted into a better use such as the Subway, Premetro Light Rail, or even the BRT.

My boy Elon just wants a cool place below the surface to throw some RGB Tesla parties give him a break

BRTs are often cheaper to build than trams, but in TCO, trams are cheaper. Trams last longer (wheels, engine etc), they can accommodate more people, and be coupled in rush hours to raise capacity even further. They can be linked with light rail or full sized railways and use their tracks too. And in town when they use their own tracks, the track bed can be filled with grass improving the city climate. And they can be made even quieter than electric buses.

An interesting comparison is the Boston’s Silver line, which uses underground trolleybusses.

Elon Musk is the Donald Trump of technology.

To be fair, the Loop fits in perfectly with the rest of Las Vegas. A massive, completely unnecessary waste of money in the middle of a desert.

@kevinbailey8827

2 жыл бұрын

It will also be a showpiece. People from all over the world will experience the Loop. They’ll see first hand how quickly they can get from one place to another. Some of them will be part of local governments considering mass transit options. TBC will be able to give them details such as actual capacity and construction costs.

i am glad i live near a BRT as when it opened in 2015 it cut 15-30 minutes of journey time on certain bus routes as most of the routes got replaced or just removed when it opened as the BRT routes served similar routes expect using the guided busway

How dare you question Lord Vapor.

He fixes city bad traffic design with a totally costly complicated patch.

@Improbabilities

3 жыл бұрын

A patch that is designed to be efficient by removing all safety features. The Boring Company has pretty much designed a multi-car pile-up tunnel, with no escape routes. Great job, Elon.

@dejjal8683

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't he start out as a software engineer? This might explain his "it's not bug, it's a feature" attitude.

@ANTSEMUT1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Improbabilities feels like a great idea... as a cyberpunk dystopian story not for a real life mass transport solution.

@markharmon4963

3 жыл бұрын

@@Improbabilities Would you please explain a scenario where that would likely happen?

This is a great video. I was gonna mention donoteat01 but u allready did 😂

@AussieWirraway

3 жыл бұрын

He's a good content creator, just wished he uploaded more often

Actually, it's more like an HOV lane, without the HO.

I came to this conclusion awhile ago, and I'm sure others have, but do you want to know what the loop really is? It's Musk and the Boring Company inventing a problem to which the Boring Company is the solution. Like, the Boring Company was set up as Elon Musk promising to bring innovative cost and time saving to the world of tunneling. The one thing that would absolutely ruin the supposed cost effectiveness of these underground loops is tunneling costs. It's such a grift. And the worst part is that if Musk wasn't pushing this so hard there'd probably be cities reaching out over the prospects of being able to build subways and the like way more cheaply with cheaper tunneling but instead if any city does call they're most likely met by some Boring Company rep or executive saying "have you thought about a loop?" It makes this the worst type of gadget-bahn: one with backing.

Agree with everything you said here, apart from the Heathrow Pods being a failure. Their purpose is to transport you between Terminal 5 and one of it's small car parks. They don't need to serve lots of people a day, just the few people every hour that are arriving and departing and have parked in said car park. So in that aspect, I think they do are a success. And that's coming from someone who's been on the pods. But it is true that personalised rapid transit just never works when you're talking about it in the sense of an actual commuter transport system.

@dafoex

Жыл бұрын

You could maybe call the pods a failure in that they haven't built more of them. If it was game changing you'd have thought they'd made more routes for more pods from more car parks to more terminals. Still, I think they are much more successful than anything else that's attempted to replace the car's niche for personal rapid transit.

@antcraft3590

Жыл бұрын

@@dafoex Yeah, I agree. But for solely the purpose it serves at LHR T5, I think it does the job perfectly. But the idea as a whole is a bit of a flop, yes.

I think you're being unfair to Elon. He has georgeos, colour-changing LEDs in his Las Vegas loop. Your bus system doesn't have that.

How does the BRT compare in Curitiba? It was far cheaper than the originally planned subway.

But Why would you use BRT when it's less expensive to sustain a tram than a bus?

I love how you're comparing Musk's "FUTURE OF TRANSPORTATION" to pretty much a basic public transportation and just beating the shit out of the "loop"

@andrewfranklin4429

2 жыл бұрын

Except for the fact that this o-Bahn is a joke compared to the just approved Vegas Loop. this Adelaide O-Bahn video had me laughing. It is only 7.3 miles long, has only 3 stations, is mostly a concrete track overland wasting gobs of space and splitting the surrounding area and travels at an average of only 22mph, also has to negotiate traffic lights and transports only 40,000 PER DAY. Not per hour - that’s per day! And the cost of this wondrous system of slow buses? $98 million dollars. That’s $13.4m per mile and that isn’t even underground! And Aussie Wirraway goes on to laud the IndyGo Redline BRT which costs $19m per mile all above ground! This compares to the Vegas Loop which will be 29 miles long, have 51 stations, will transport at least 57,000 people PER HOUR and costs taxpayer ZERO dollars. Even if taxpayers were paying, the cost of Loop tunnels is as low as $6m per mile and cost of stations is $2m each. BRT just doesn’t compare.

but but muh ELeTriC cArs

the only widespread individual public transport is regulated taxis like here in germany, where they are very strictly regulated and any competitor would have to meet the same standard (looking at you uber) also we see how expensive taxis are, any system that is like it is either horrendous, discriminative or as expensive or more expensive

@afgor1088

3 жыл бұрын

Uuh idk what part of Germany you're from but there's a lot of cities in Germany with great trams, metros and busses

Public transport is called public for a reason Its not meant to be give the exact same convenience and flexibility of private transport.

The loop is only possible in the US because it fullfills the most important wish of Americans: to stay safe in their cars without getting in contact with other americans. Those could be poor, razy or violent.

@Goldsteinphoto

3 жыл бұрын

How many subway systems, trams, busses, trolleys, and trains do you think are in US?

@JakobFischer60

3 жыл бұрын

@@Goldsteinphoto There is one in New York, one in Seattle and one in Washington I think. Busses can only be used by poor people, and, yes there is one historic cable car in San Francisco.

@Goldsteinphoto

3 жыл бұрын

@@JakobFischer60 Wrong.

@JakobFischer60

3 жыл бұрын

@@Goldsteinphoto You know I am right.

@Goldsteinphoto

3 жыл бұрын

@@JakobFischer60 Subway - rapid transit. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_rapid_transit_systems_by_ridership

O-Bahns for all

Musk does at least realise that some people just like the comfort of a personal vehicle, but I don't think he's thought it through... If the O-bahn has sections where the bus follows the track, the next logical step is just a driverless bus, right? Well why not allow any driverless vehicle to use a dedicated track like the O-bahn? In the UK we have lots of dedicated bus lanes which can only be used by busses, hackney carriages (taxis you hail, not hire) and for some reason pushbikes. With a network of bus lanes in high traffic areas, and normal roads for the rest of the way, why not allow any autonomous traffic to use a bus lane? Congestion would be a minimal issue if the vehicles merge, drive, and exit autonomously, and it would be cheaper to paint the road red than it would be to dig a big hole. Better public transport is always better, and BRT feels like it combines the best of bus and the best of light rail (make the bus a trolleybus and you can even get those eco electric brownie points) but there are just some times you want a personal vehicle. A dedicated autonomous lane would allow Tesla drivers to do what they already do and fall asleep at the wheel, only they can do it safely, and they get to use otherwise wasted capacity of a bus lane.

Americans in general cannot understand efficient public transport.

When you’ve never used public transit, this is what you’d come up with.

@dafoex

Жыл бұрын

Either that, or you did use public transit and you hated the "public" part of it.

Aussie Adam Something

I love how this guy sounds slightly drunk when speaking! Subscribed!

Musk the kind of guy to sell you a robot to carry you up the stairs... when the building has an elevator

Can anyone translate this into English, please?

Good Work!

Have you looked into the Morgantown PRT? It's sort of like BRT, but uses fully autonomous shuttles. It was built back in the 70s.

The biggest bottleneck in this system would not be the tunnel itself but the way in/way out. It looks like one transfer to and from road level would take at least 30 seconds, more realistically about a minute. So the stations would need to be either every 20m (which would mean that the whole tunnel is one big continuous station) or the whole system would be one huge traffic jam.

@electric7487

2 жыл бұрын

Another fundamental bottleneck is the turnaround time. All public transport systems suffer from this, but the Loop suffers more due to the vehicles' small capacity. If each vehicle holds 3 people comfortably, and the turnaround time is 30 seconds (that's likely to be a minute or longer in many cases), you can transport 6 people per minute per car. That equates to 360 people per hour, and you have five bays per direction, so you get 1800 people per hour. That's the _absolute maximum_ number of people you can transport, even if the cars travelled at 99.9% the speed of light.

try selling public transportation to people in the US lulz...

@robomop9711

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. This is the real issue.

I didn't know about those busses. Canberra just got super expensive lite rail. Elon is a knob head pretending to invent new tech which its not and also useless. Nice video mate. 👍🤓

Similar to the tram system in The Hague, Netherlands

This is exactly what I was thinking when I saw how the loop ended up! Backwards Adelaide delivers another surprise.