People have loved making fun of the WNBA for my whole life, and their interest in Caitlin Clark hasn't dissuaded their desire to make fun of the WNBA at all.

@djhov82

19 күн бұрын

I'm not gonna lie the WNBA is hard to watch even when CC is playing. It's almost like watching rec center basketball with a bunch of players that used to be good. At times it is fun also, but it is nothing like watching the NBA, and I can see why the league has struggled to grow. I used to watch the WNBA back when it first premiered. One thing I can say is we men want to league to succeed and be successful. All some of us are saying is that hey, you have this woman over here that can grow your league and put your best players in the spotlight. She doesn't have to be one of the best 12 players in your league, but if you put her on your USA roster millions more with watch and they will see first hand how talented the other women are. She won't play much, so the world will be able to see these women play. Now, instead of having one lady who's extremely popular, you now will have 4 or 5 women with new young fans.

@gregmartinez7881

19 күн бұрын

If anything it’s easier too now seeing as they’re doing everything to fumble the bag

@4SS-FART

19 күн бұрын

Thats how criticism works. Sports are supposed to be a profitable entertainment industry, not a subsidized charity. Do you sit online and defend Sh***y movies that lost money in the box office, after you pretend that you watched them yourself?

@TedBand

19 күн бұрын

Warranted criticism. You can't force people to consume bad entertainment

“I’m tired of everyone talking about Caitlin Clark. Let’s have a 20 minute segment on it.”

@langvo5031

21 күн бұрын

😂

@allensansone6537

21 күн бұрын

You sound like a hater

@allensansone6537

21 күн бұрын

You don't have to listen or watch

@dschrute8

21 күн бұрын

Spot on 😂

@breezybreeze12

21 күн бұрын

😂😂

It's like when new people discover something and ruin it. That's what this feels like.

@idahoman325

21 күн бұрын

Ruin the wnba 😮 ummmm wouldn't that imply there was something good to begin with bruh 😅😅😅

@coxfordGamer

21 күн бұрын

​@@idahoman325that's funny

@hayskig1226

21 күн бұрын

It’s political now so it’s poison.

@noelahg79

21 күн бұрын

The wnba and women's bball has done this to themselves!

@peterhaslund

21 күн бұрын

That's a daft defense for a sick league

That girl saying men cause all of women's problems is crazy.

@mikehoward3018

21 күн бұрын

Right just imagine if a man said that about women, which is probably a truer statement

@LouSeph

21 күн бұрын

Women don’t even watch the WNBA 90% of the audience are men. These women are embarrassing themselves and I am a left wing person. No one tears down women like other women. They are blaming men when men are 90% of the WNBA audience - and the NBA the men of the NBA are why the WNBA exists. Modern women want the authority of men, the privileges of women, and the accountability of children. This CC thing has changed my entire perception of these sports “journalist” women - this has NOT been their finest hour and they are just proving all the shit men talk about is beyond true.

@LouSeph

21 күн бұрын

90% of the WNBA audience are men lol. I am one of them and have been for years. The gaslighting female reporters are doing is offensive on this topic. We have female reporters covering the NFL that say all types of things about men that are in their feelings cause CLEAR JEALOUSY is being called out. This is about women who just can’t handle being criticized by men. The gaslighting and pearl clutching going on is amazing. Those of us that watch like myself can SEE with our eyeballs that CC is being guarded differently than ANY other rookie and ANY other player we have EVER seen - not just this year. We called men out of being jealous of rookies that came into various leagues - if you want to be talked about like a legit sports league - get talked about honestly like a legit sports league. If you want gentle special treatment - go sit at the kids table and be content being a second tier league that begs for fans. You are getting the attention and they are MAD at who is giving them the attention. New fans are here and their response is “don’t talk about the sport”, “don’t criticize us”, “don’t get too hype about rookies we were here before!”. You were here before and lecturing new fans will push away new fans. Women play sports - men watch sports. Ask a random woman if she has ever watched the WNBA. They don’t. Women don’t support the WNBA - men do. Get off your high horse - you sound ridiculous and I am a left wing person who watches the WNBA and this show - now a right wing hate monger and if I am nauseated by this I can’t imagine how hard others are rolling their eyes and changing the channel.

@3ricegr3at

21 күн бұрын

Newsflash buddy!

@4SS-FART

19 күн бұрын

super typical. The gender that started that POS diet basketball league AND kept it afloat by subsidizing it and paying these women like its a necessary charity effort get s*** on by sexist, leftist women.

What about the women covering the nba and nfl should we tell them to stay on women sports because they don't know how to think

@andrewchornoby1140

19 күн бұрын

Yes

They wanted attention but are mad now that the attention is here cause of who is bringing it.

@barbiedahl

18 күн бұрын

💯🎯

You can't stop talking about CC. Her popularity have global reach she is a player who has the star quality that piques your interest.

@marcboss6

21 күн бұрын

I couldn’t give less of a shit about Clark. A bunch of white folks and patriarchal dudes can’t figure out why a lot of folks don’t give a damn about miss white unicorn lady. She’s just another basketball player.

@joemateo9

21 күн бұрын

Amen. Agree 1000%...🇺🇸

@Me-zm9wt

21 күн бұрын

Global?

@bradenhazle4378

20 күн бұрын

I think you're vastly overestimating foreign interest in US college sports, women sports at that.

@stephenpatrick6387

20 күн бұрын

America is not global .....America really thinks what happens in our bubble, the world cares about. She is not global.

When is someone going to be up front..... it's a low level product and most consumers eyes.

@kareemabdulwahhab6919

21 күн бұрын

See when you do that, then here comes the oh you hate women comments.

My issue with the Olympics is that they kept up trying to keep the CC fans interested even though they had the team decided months ago. What I mean is they invited CC to camp. Oh yeah its during the final four. Then they said well her first games will be her tryout. Well her number were better than Taurasi. Then they waited until the 3x3 had already announced so CC couldn't be on 3x3. She's far better the Hailey Van Lithe.

It's very simple. Bully or not bully. Have character or not. Ladies? Make your move.

😂 They just said there are so many story lines this weekend in the wnba… yet no one is talking about any of these so called “headlines”. It’ll all be about CC right now. Goes to show how irrelevant the women’s game still is…

@williambrown6983

20 күн бұрын

So you didn't listen to the entire episode. Elle went on for about 5 minutes about multiple other storylines.

@Someone_VIP

20 күн бұрын

@@williambrown6983 I did listen. You mean all of them “storylines” that none of these networks/podcasts/social media is talking about, right?!?!? 😂

@williambrown6983

20 күн бұрын

@@Someone_VIP Ahh, gotcha. So you're not talking about what was discussed in the show. Just about other media and networks. I guess, depending on who you're listening and/or watching.

@Someone_VIP

20 күн бұрын

@@williambrown6983 correct. I guarantee you there is no major network, major podcast or major sports personality that leads of with a “wnba” headline, unless it’s got CC in it.

I want people to ask good questions. I want someone to ask Elle how it is not a snub when Clark has better stats than Taurasi and Gray can't play right now? Also, why is no one criticizing US basketball that this is the first time they have ever not had anyone under the age of 24 on the roster? Also can we talk about "Diana Taurasi is shooting better from distance than anyone" when it's 34% to Clark's 33% and 22nd best in the league? I am not saying it is unfair that Clark was left off. There are preference reasons to pick others over her, but the narrative she hasn't earned it is not backed by actual stats. She has the 5th best stats of any guard and the 3rd best fantasy stats of any guard when 7 guards were selected. That is a snub. I am sorry if people don't want to admit that because no one can be rational on either side. In EVERY other sport we can use stats and claim players are snubbed for all star spots. Why is that not true now?

@tcincali9642

20 күн бұрын

These players also tried out for the team and made it. So they should lose their spot that they worked for because someone draws better views?

@jaahnnn

19 күн бұрын

​@@tcincali9642yes

Respect Lucia Harris the woman who has been awarded the honor of being the first woman selected by the NBA, New Orleans Jazz.

The NFL is the MOST PROFITABLE LEAGUE in the country, and they have an Annual “Competition Meeting” to assess the rules and what the fans want……WNBA is basically saying we will serve you what we want and you will have to eat it……w/o realizing that we don’t have to eat it……🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

@LouSeph

19 күн бұрын

And no one is eating it - the league has NEVER turned a profit and 90% of the audience ARE MEN!!!! Ask a woman if she has ever watched one WNBA game. The gaslighting they are doing here is offensive. I am a liberal person but this is the kind of BS that gives liberalism a bad name.

Seems like all the women in the wnba are more visible now because of CC coming into the league. Unfortunately there are those trying to grab their piece of the light she brings by throwing shade on her. Need to stop the negative and sit back and watch the play. Oh..and to those tauting that DT has slightly better shot average than this youngster I say, sure.. her arrival has got all those players stepping up AND while being double+ guarded and with little break in her schedule. Bottom line.. she be fine and is determined to keep working through the muck. And THAT is what we love about this kid!

New to the sport brining in pitchforks? This is off the charts bad faith.

If the women would be honest it would be easier to deny her a spot on the team.

@niecyxTM

21 күн бұрын

She does not deserve it right now, she’s a rookie let her gel with her team and get ready for all stars.

@NeighborTom

21 күн бұрын

@@niecyxTM Her stats are better than the menopausal Taurasi. Facts!

@niecyxTM

21 күн бұрын

@@NeighborTom Diana is a leader who WON in college! Who won in WNBA . Caitlin has not won anything in terms of things that matter to people. She is popular the great white savior for people who were not watching .

@hochha

20 күн бұрын

@@niecyxTM It's obvious what the problem is and it's not about basketball, the envy others feel towards Clark is easy to understand. Clark has made more money than all other 143 WNBA players put together and the attention she gets far surpasses all of them as well. Human nature is unwilling to look past these things and is demonstrated across all societies, men and women are equally yoked with this trait but it is most evident with women.

@niecyxTM

18 күн бұрын

@@hochha her own teammates don’t even like her, let her prove herself to them first get ready for all stars her time will come .

The fact that the WNBA thought that Caitlin Clark fans would automatically embrace all their players is crazy. New viewers are not New Fans they are old Caitlin Clark fans, many who have been following her journey since high school. The reality is they are here for Caitlin and that is hard for alot of people to accept. The best thing WNBA players can do is play there best and shine and let people decide who they want to be fans of. Caitlin Clark has to face alot of other players so enjoy the spotlight and be recognized for your game like her and not all this other nonsense. The "MEN" who are now watching aren't the only ones, just look at the average audience in most fever games, from 8 to 80, male and female of all races and everyone is bringing their money with them so just embrace it and play your best game.

@tanyawilliams1887

15 күн бұрын

Well said.

I forgot why I don’t ever listen to this show. Thanks for reminding me.

WNBA is trying hard not to grow...these ladies are insane blame the fans what???

The WNBA is the only sports league that has ever questioned their new fans and why they’re watching? I keep hearing that it’s about race, or sexuality, but who cares? Does anyone question why the NFL is a behemoth now and dominates any competition? All i have heard for 25+ years is people are missing out on a good product in the WNBA and how the players are underpaid. They finally have a player that is bringing in fans on a level the league has never seen, which will reward ALL of them with higher salaries in the future. And they are complaining about it? SMH

@adcoleman44

21 күн бұрын

The people shouting about ‘growing the game’ aren’t the least bit interested in actually growing the game.

@thecomicsarereal

21 күн бұрын

Great point

@MrLarryLessor

21 күн бұрын

These fans should be questioned.... bc a lot of you don't seem to love basketball - You seem to care only bc you wanna see a white person dominate a black person's sport. And if that's true - and plenty of times it is true - then that's offensive.... This happened 35 or more years ago to my uncle - He invited his coworker over to his house to watch the fight. This coworker happened to be caucasian. One of the challengers on fight night was caucasian. The champion was black. of course the white coworker really wanted the white guy to win - he probably didn't understand boxing, didn't care. This was all about race in his mind. Of course the white boxer lost. But that was the early 80s ... .it's now the year 2024. But that just proves a lot of you can be just as backwards and racist as people from the late 70s/ 80s who didn't watch the celtics

@stilldre247

21 күн бұрын

@@MrLarryLessorCC = Rocky Balboa and it’s sad

@universe-ie2mk

21 күн бұрын

When did the league ever questioned its fans? That never happened.

I mean CC is now also supposed to fix all of the countries intersectionality issues. FFS people

Keep Cote off the screen when you have a guest on.

Sorry, most Caitlin fans didn't come here to help the WNBA. If you think so, you've got it backwards. The eyes are here. But we're just consumers who all like the same product. It's up to the WNBA to sell us something while we're in the store.

@ydcee3123

21 күн бұрын

They don't come to 'help' the WNB a.A. Absolutely right. Dan's fans can barely tolerate female sports commentators here. And if they become a regular, oh boy, they pick them apart.

@sarademoret425

21 күн бұрын

It seems like there are two opposing views here. The WNBA was excited to have Caitlin help the WNBA as it is. The new fans want to see more pure skills like the NBA and want the WNBA to change so that CC and the players to follow her can play like her too. I see that both sides feel very strongly about it. Unfortuanatley a lot of mean things have been said on both sides while the direction the WNBA will go is being decided.

@user-pw8ny8ks7k

21 күн бұрын

@@ydcee3123so you’d rather 10 fans watching all the games than 100,000 fans watching fever games 💀

@Steve-606

21 күн бұрын

​@@sarademoret425"pure skills" = someone jack up 3s at 31% shooting and turning the ball over on 1 out of every 3 pick and rolls while getting stomped by 30 or 40 everytime they play a good team. The idea that CC fandom is more informed about basketball is most absurd possible comment, as shown on a nightly basis. Give her time to actually improve her skills.

@_C_Squared_

21 күн бұрын

While what you're saying is true, it's also partially true that y'all can just watch more content that doesn't feature CC. Lucy even wants to say "I love CC, let's stop talking just about her", then goes on to only talk about her and ZERO WNBA stories. There are fantastic stories in the W, just y'all aren't tuning in or talking.

Omg not the lady that says that Caitlin has pretty privilege 🤣🤣🤣 she’s really making a name for herself but constantly talking about Caitlin 🤦🏻‍♀️

@acegohard4731

19 күн бұрын

thats a different lightskin woman

the discourse has been exhausting so lets talk about the discourse and make more discourse

Wnba is must not see TV

Also, LeBatard bashing Stephen A. then following his blueprint for clicks and views is hilarious.

I miss the “Hey, please watch us” WNBA. I’d rather not be told how to fan, by a league that 12 people were watching for 25+ years.

@ALLCITY73

21 күн бұрын

The so called "12 people" that watched just appreciated the game and the sport and wasn't here crying about "petty, jealous and hatred" instead just talking about basketball.

@EssAhrBee

21 күн бұрын

You'd rather be ignorant about what you're seeing? Hm. Yeah, that checks.

@Jawand23

21 күн бұрын

That Duncan lady start watching woman basketball this year people can’t take her seriously she a joke she the type of person I’m tired keep talking about Caitlin then she keep talking about her 😂 tf

@EssAhrBee

21 күн бұрын

@@Jawand23 If she started this year, you started yesterday, champ. Carry on, though. **Mute**

@cmbox1184

21 күн бұрын

@@EssAhrBeewhy don’t you carry on if you don’t like people’s takes on it

If the women basketball would just embrace Caitlin just like how the MLS embraced Messi, they would be on a better place. I heard that Clark can play either for Italy or Ireland due to her heritage.

@ralphpal

19 күн бұрын

I read she is italian so its not racism but a hate crime if she is italian

The wnba guards CC like they are in kindergarten and then say shes not good enough to play for the olympic team. They are guarding her like she is the greatest player in history. No woman in the history of the wnba has faced this type of 90 ft faceguarding.

@bigtone5029

20 күн бұрын

Well if she is so good, it shouldn't matter how they guard her, they doubled and tripled team Jordan all the time and he still dropped 30 on they ass, she just might not be as good as the hype, but we shall see.

I love you Lucy!!!!!!

I'm from the Caribbean.. And honestly CC is the only reason we in my country watch the WNBA..💯💫🌟✨

True story, yesterday I found out Taylor Swift was tall. So I'm like how tall and Google; 5'11". Cool, what does that look like comparatively? So I Google "WNBA Taylor Swift" thinking maybe I'd get a pic or a something put together of Swift standing next a WNBA player. All the results, every single one for the first page were Caitlin Clark; "the Taylor Swift of basketball". All the pics were of Clark on the first two scrolls.

It's already turning into the real housewives 😂

@df3575

21 күн бұрын

Espn has been The View and sports media soap operas for dopey men for decades.....🙄

As Gilbert Arenas said, “ It’s hard for women to hear men speak honestly about women publicly. Yall don’t want our opinions just our viewership”

@kennethsmith6367

21 күн бұрын

When they marry us. They only want our checks and labor, not our opinions.🤷🏾‍♂️

@hollywoodperez

21 күн бұрын

@@kennethsmith6367go read a book dummy

@HimieFreeman

21 күн бұрын

I just don’t think anyone wants to hear strong opinions from people who are uneducated on the topic they’re speaking about, which is happening a lot in these WNBA convos

@terellcarter8780

21 күн бұрын

@@HimieFreemanformer basketball players are uneducated on talking about basketball🤔 men aren’t allowed to have a public opinion like Gil said

@HimieFreeman

21 күн бұрын

@@terellcarter8780 yes, a former basketball player can be uneducated about a completely different league with completely different playstyle, history, and storylines. Most NBA players will not be knowledgeable about the CBL. Hell, there are NBA players who have admitted to not watching much NBA, let alone the W. Gil literally is quoted in the past saying the way to fix the WNBA was to have the women wear less clothes and have less ugly players. Does that sound like someone who has the requisite respect and understanding of the WNBA? If your answer is yes, then newsflash, you do not have the requisite respect and understanding of the WNBA.

Ok, so the NBA screwed up believing the WNBA players, coaches and refs were ready for the phenom that is CC. They let amateurs mess up the bigly times that was supposed to be a fresh start on the road to profitability. No sweat, just correct: Refs need to protect players. Players need PR-classes. Coaches need management lessons. And CC needs to be at Paris. Obviously...

They’re exhausted about men and new fans talking too much CC and not enough other WNBA players. The WNBA doesn’t want to hear from new fans, well they’re just going to go back to having no one being able to name more than 5 players in the league. Before this season, people probably couldn’t name 5 teams.

@debbiematteo7046

19 күн бұрын

True I only noticed the cocky big mouths that make no sense .

Caitlyn Clark made the league relevant for 5 minutes and you’re already complaining

Critique. That popular men just go to the one clickbait story. Then Jessica ask about the incoming dept without mentioning CC, but then Ms. Duncan's answers has a CC element to it, that I would dare say, didn't need to be in the answer.

@bbbker1010

21 күн бұрын

Then, you have the WNBA anchor from ESPN, and instead of talking about, oh any of the top WNBA stories, you go to a clip of a trick shot from practice. Which of course, fits the show, but its another example of not talking about the play of the court, but instead of fluf or click bait candy. Which is part of the problem of the WNBA, is that the media doesn't go to more stories about the sport.

@bbbker1010

21 күн бұрын

Although, good job going to the games for the weekend

Nobody in charge and on the team wanted to see Caitlin go off. They did not want to be a part of the overshadowing Caitlin's celebrity would have brought and the potential exciting plays on court she would have done. They did not want to boost this women into the stratosphere by placing her on the global stage. The fanbase in the United States doesn't care about anyone else other than Caitlin. The numbers prove it. The potential of having the world wanting just this women was just too great. The women running the WNBA jealousy truly shows. ALLOWING CAITLIN CLARK TO GET A GOLD MEDAL WOULD HAVE MADE HER A GOD AND THEY DID NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT. SO INSTEAD THEY PREEMPTIVELY CUT THE PRAISE OF HER SHORT BY 4 YEARS.

@layziebdub

21 күн бұрын

Caitlin is averaging 16 points on 37% shooting. She didn’t earn a spot on the Olympic team because she is not currently one of the top players in the WNBA. There is a difference between being the most popular player versus being one of the best players. I have little doubt that Caitlin will eventually get to being one of the best WNBA players but she isn’t there yet. This isn’t jealousy (at least not 100%), but it is a team putting their foot down that they are not just putting the most popular player on the team over a deserving player. It actually does matter to athletes to have a gold medal and it is an accomplishment.

@sh0t0kan

21 күн бұрын

@@layziebdub The rest of the guards that play her position are not getting doubled teamed and played aggressively the moment they get the ball. Despite all of that she still is posting numbers that are competitive. If the outright jealousy did not exist and if she didn't have a target on her back everywhere she goes, maybe we would be seeing much different numbers.

@layziebdub

20 күн бұрын

@@sh0t0kan I’m just trying to understand your argument. Are you saying that her numbers are bad because they are playing great defense against her? I would argue that players like Jewell Lloyd or Aja Wilson also have defenses keying in on them and they are able to be successful. Of course Caitlin would play better if she was left open but she came into the WNBA hyped up as the best thing since sliced bread and so she is receiving the type of defense that an elite offensive player would warrant. It’s up to her to figure out how to be successful, similar to how MJ had to figure out how to be successful when he was getting the focus of defense. At no point in MJ’s career did he average less than 20 points or less than 41% shooting. In fact, during the years in the late 80s where he was getting beat up by the Pistons and other teams he averaged more than 50% shooting and well over 30 points a game.

@azrael9986

18 күн бұрын

​@@layziebdub The NBA changed the rules so MJ could play and be the legend he is today. In Jordan's early career he was getting crushed by other teams like the Detroit Pistons because players were double and triple teaming him just like Clark so the NBA changed the rules Google it.

@layziebdub

17 күн бұрын

@@azrael9986I did look up Jordan’s stats during the Pistons Bad Boy era. From 1986 to 1992 Jordan averaged 33.2 points on a shooting percentage of 52.3%.

"I didn't expect everyone to be that stupid." [1:45] Never underestimate the stupidity of groupthink. There is no "coddling" by men for Clark, there is only hate by the loud men towards the rest of the WNBA league, players, and USA Women's Basketball. The mistake is thinking the men are doing this *for* her. For all the guys who think women are out to hate on other women, just listen to the first thing Duncan says coming on the show [4:00]. Clark had to be left off the USA Women's Olympic team because of the Caitlin Clark Catch-22: she is popular because she is different in a different way (The Steph Curry Way), but the rest of the players are playing in the pre-Curry way. Clark and the other players will need time to figure out how to fit together. Curry needed several years until the Warriors were 'his' team. And I finished writing this while getting to 12:40 in the video, when Elle (we're friends, right? 😂) finished saying exactly this.

@ralphpal

19 күн бұрын

Being her team and olympics are 2 different things..plus nba and wnba is different. Also the league lost 50 million this year Now what

@UnconventionalReasoning

19 күн бұрын

@@ralphpal The NBA and WNBA are linked companies. Making or losing money with companies like these is complicated. What point are you trying to make with "Being her team and olympics"?

Why are the women in the WNBA not talking about how unfair it is to the women that biological men are playing in their league take them out Caitlin Clark would be on the Olympic team and I think a few others

where are Nike NBC and the other sponsors, they will lose business with this decision. America loves 🥰 Catlin Clark and we demand she be part of the Olympic team 🇺🇸

If the Fever want to trade CC then I'd love to see her on the Liberty.

Are we talking about the welfare team

“Everyone new to the sport is showing up with pitchforks”.??? If the coaches and veterans had welcomed her and embraced her , this could have gone a different way. But so many of the old guard in and associated with the league chose to diminish her, act petty and target her. That’s what happened. She’s a young talent who deserves mentorship. Instead her IDOLS tore her down publicly out of jealousy that they had not received the same popularity. The old guard started this mob scene.. Aside from that, her team isn’t talented, doesn’t seem to be well couched and her team mates don’t care to defer to her. As far as basketball is concerned, she’s in a pretty terrible situation for her skill set. All the while being double and triple teamed sometimes from full court. So all around, the league has exposed itself as dysfunctional and the Fever has exposed itself as not a complimentary fit for her game. It seems like a terrible situation and to her credit she is keeping her grace.

Point missed by Lucy completely. It's not about CC as much it's about Women's Basketball finally making a profit and not living of men's handouts.

@bradenhazle4378

20 күн бұрын

They are still not making a profit.

@tcincali9642

20 күн бұрын

They aren’t making a profit even with all the weird ass Clark obsession.

@simonkurt6764

20 күн бұрын

@@tcincali9642 That’s because they haven’t negotiated a TV deal yet. Fever games will sell for a substantial amount next season. Still unsure on profitability as not sure there is a huge pull for other teams

As a 30 year watcher of the WNBA I am excited by the prospect of there being an influx of new fans. And if someone is watching solely because Caitlin Clark is playing then the league isn't in any place to be picky. Elle Duncan and Jemele Hill want everyone to love Breanna Stewart and Aja Wilson as much as they love Clark but fandom doesn't work that way. You can't tell people how to fan

I agree 100% CC can handle her own and she knows what she’s doing when she is out there flopping like Lebron does to get calls

@user-jk9ok7ub9y

16 күн бұрын

Well she isn't quite as bulked up as some of those women so she is more likely to go off balance. Next thing you'll be saying she ran her head into Angel' arm the other day. 😂😂😂 whatever. .

I try to tune out a lot of the poor discourse out there about the W. I watch the W, but I don't have a nearby club, so I don't have one to latch on to. Maybe I could latch on to one of the next 2 franchises to come in, IDK.

You think the Media gonna do Bronny James like this?

Why are you gatekeeping the wnba from new fans. These type of discussions make people not wanna watch the wnba.

@BeeRand1984

21 күн бұрын

The WNBA makes people not wanna watch the WNBA.

@bradenhazle4378

20 күн бұрын

Not sure if you know this but things tend to not be fun when belligerent and ignorant people join the party.

@4SS-FART

19 күн бұрын

just men, actually. The people that started this circus charity event. the people that would change it from losing 100 fking million dollars every year. "dont watch if you have a weiner"

@4SS-FART

19 күн бұрын

@@bradenhazle4378 not sure if you know this but most business ventures get shut the fk down if they lose 9 figures a fking year. they dont have room to gatekeep. smd

@tanyawilliams1887

15 күн бұрын

​@bradenhazle4378 Imagine calling "those people" ignorant and belligerent when it's actually YOU!!😂😂😂

ELLE: "Everyone who's joining the party now (CC FANS) came in with pitchforks out" UMMM....if memory serves, Caitlin was getting plenty of shade and hate and racism even BEFORE she got drafted. Upon entering the WNBA, it has literally exploded off the charts. As for CC FANS, myself included, who have said harsh things about other players, it has been in RESPONSE to their words about her and her treatment of her. Period.

US Olympic Committee could have selected CC if she decline WNBA draft instead play for IOWA 5th year NCAA elibility .No WNBA biases .There is no reason for them not select CC for US Paris 2024 Women Basketball Team .Then she can have another 1000 to 1100 points and add it to her 3951 score done in 4 years which will total her score to 5000 points after leaving NCAA in 2025 then nobody can break her score for the next 100 years.

Gilbert arenas had a good take on this. Mind you the usa womens olympic basketball team been winning since 92' 😂. The question to the wnba, do you want to grow the sport or do you want to win gold. Hate it or love it, tye wnba missed out on the marketing side of this situation.

@ralphpal

19 күн бұрын

Plus they will.still.win gold

Elle is so right about this! 💯‼️

😂she cheated! You can’t throw it in😂

“SHE IS DOMINATING…SHE IS MUST SEE TV” 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤣😂🤣😂

@ShaolinPrince718

21 күн бұрын

A'ja is dominating though. she took that 4th place vote for MVP personally

@bradenhazle4378

20 күн бұрын

She's leading ppg, only 5 points behind on total points 20 points until the next player, 3rd in blocks, 5th in rebounds and 1st in efficiency by a wide margin. She's dominating

@PD-qu8dq

20 күн бұрын

@@ShaolinPrince718 A’ja is definitely killing it, She is a Monster

Montgomery and Co out Elle Duncan in

dr. umar actually had a great take on the wnba and catlin clark if anyone saw that lol

I can tell you men are having a field day. 😂

Lucy is absolutely annoying... She's like a whiny 6 year old...

If you dont agree with this woman then you aren’t researched and learned enough. Right?

Lucy with the (Clark) doesn't say anything defense. Lucy, how can Clark not be bothered by her name being used to justify racism, bigotry, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia & the intersectionalities of them? WNBA players all have a platform. All have a voice & they all hold weight. Clark's silence is a luxury, and your silence, Lucy Rohden, makes you complicit in not calling out Clark's lack of defense of racism, misogyny, etc. Cameron Brink acknowledged her white privilege, support for more masculine WNBA players, and her endorsement of they/them pronouns. All of Brink's statement applies to what 90% of LeBatard Show viewers believe, but you and Caitlin remain silent.

@user-jk9ok7ub9y

16 күн бұрын

I thought she did speak to say it wasn't right for people to use her name connected to their racists agenda. I don't blame her for wanting to focus on the game. No matter what she does, there will be critics. She admits she can't let all the buzz get in her head because she has a lot of work ahead of her.

Aren't most of the new WNBA viewers existing NCAA Womens basketball fans and also men? Is the WNBA mostly, almost entirely men or families with children? You need to please your fan base if you want to keep them. I hope they don't loose me, but they seem to be trying really hard to.

3:43 Lucy is giving me serial killer vibes somebody called the BAU

At this rate what happens next year? People are watching all this bullsh-t. They will not come back they'll will have enough. Know one even new who these lady's are until now. Even they were great players you would think they would be helping the new players along instead of saying look at what we have done. The problem with that is they are. They noticed! See a bunch of me me and not WNBA.

@ralphpal

19 күн бұрын

What is the end game? I have no idea by that time all.her fans would be gone Then what

also note arike is a ballhog....CC is a ballhog too just not as bad as CC but arike more versatile on offense than CC but CC a better playmaker or at least tries to be a playmaker (yes that was a shot at arike)

@amyk6319

21 күн бұрын

I partially agree, but CC is not a ball hog. She was #3 on the all time top assist leader in college. Arike on the other hand is a ball hog. Arike is averaging 24 shots per game this year, while CC is only averaging 12.8, so Arike is getting twice the shots each game that CC is.

@jaahnnn

21 күн бұрын

Isn't she Nigerian anyway?

@DJ_Mr_Rodge

21 күн бұрын

@@amyk6319 CC is also a ballhog but she is a undercover ballhog in the sense the offense runs through her so she can shoot alot of shots...it like james harden or russell westbrook in which they since they on ball alot they stuff their stats...and as we seen with russ and CC they can't really play off ball as well...like i said before CC reminds of jason williams in a good way and in a bad way

No one is staying for none of those other players. With all due respect

Diana Turasi is a Dinosaur Bully

There is only 1 MUST SEE TV. Let’s not kid ourselves here. CC PERIOD T

@triples9738

20 күн бұрын

I don’t tune into the WNBA or Olympics to watch CC

You say Diana Taurasi is doing so great! WoooHooo but I got something for ya girl Caitlin Clark's stats are better than Diana Taurasi's and Alyssa Thomas's and Kelsey Plums!!! That woman on the selection committee said the reason they picked Taurasi was she was putting up monster numbers she didn't look at stats before hand I don't think!!!! And I don't need to be told how to watch sports I'm 54yrs old!!!

@clumsysmurf8109

21 күн бұрын

I don't think you can compare to Thomas because Thomas is a forward and you have to pick a roster with all positions. I also am not sure how you are weighting your stats to say Clark's are better. Plum is scoring more and shooting at a better percentage right now. The question I have is, should we really be putting a player on who has yet to play this year (Gray) when the games start in 7 weeks? Clark is the reserve, so ultimately it looks HIGHLY likely that Gray will be left off due to injury and Clark will be added.

Just let the girl play basketball 🥲💜

@jnkazee2526

20 күн бұрын

Tell that to Jim Trotter. But I'll bet to Elle Duncan, that non basketball culture war question doesn't count

only black woman and lesbians are important fans is what elle is saying, men and strait white woman dont matter

@tadah21

15 күн бұрын

Caitlyn is not straight her boyfriend is a beard. Iowa knows

For those women who are saying. What's wrong with the men. You are the same women were saying that and begging us to support the WNBA. I was supporting your broke league since before Diana Taurasi Now that we are here supporting one of your own that can sell out arenas even at away games and is captivating the whole world, you want to hate on us for loving her. Who is Caitlyn Clark. Shame on you all for your hate of Caitlin Clark and now us the ones that you need are financial support of you should be so lucky if we both just don't go away and then maybe in another 20 years you might be relevant. However I digress, Caitlin Clark is not going away anytime soon and are support of her as long as she continues to be the Superstar, smart and person and player that she is. PS Every cheap shot at Caitlin Clark and our support of her, is just showing your lack of appreciation for how the NBA has supported you thus far so that you will be able to have your league and Caitlin Clark forgetting you over the hump. Show some respect and stop being hateful and petty.

she's just talking and don't even know the numbers of the growth in the W since the rookies entered. Be careful of who you listen to.

Very fast,and what they are playing,top teams mostly 😂😂😂

CC is definitely is a breath of FreshAir. Looks like coach Sides has been given instructions not to overly showcase CC’s talents so as not to give her a place on the women’s Olympic squad. Why ?? Because the WNBA is subsidized by the NBA, it, the WNBA administration has no skin in the game - they have guarateed salaries, and as a result has developed a culture corporate welfare: no growth and the grooming and maintenance of the ‘status quo’. The las thing on the minds of the administration and the ‘ground forces’ is that they don’t want to ride on the coat tails of a rookie sensation. They would rather see CC ‘fail’ so that they can say, “See, she wasn’t that great anyway.” They double down on ‘cutting their nose to spite their face.’ Though, who knows they might just cave into the great pressure of fans wanting to see her on the team

@joemateo9

21 күн бұрын

That was GREAT. I agree 100%. Not only will this come back to haunt them but it will come back to bite them in the "A$$$$" too...🇺🇸

Yep all them racists kid trying to get her autograph sucks.

The thing with the WNBA and Women’s Olympic basketball, you can’t complain about lack of coverage, media rights, and salaries but then keep the woman who would help elevate those things off the global stage. 4 years from now the momentum from Clark will be completely gone.

@boogiebello9464

21 күн бұрын

Dumb take clearly you haven’t listened to all the common sense people who have been talking only gas bags

@Bluejacket4life2

21 күн бұрын

Elevate the olympics 😂😂😂😂

@universe-ie2mk

21 күн бұрын

Bro the league made gains in viewership and ticket sales last year.

@Bluejacket4life2

21 күн бұрын

@@universe-ie2mk have u looked at the team ticket aales

@amyk6319

21 күн бұрын

@@universe-ie2mk Yes last year there was a 27% increase in viewership & attendance was up 16% the largest increase since 2008. This year other teams have seen a 14% increase in viewership, while Fever/CC games have more than a 100% increase in viewership. And Fever/ CC are averaging 17000 in attendance with a max of 20,000. The average attendance for a games w/o CC/Fever is 7000 with a max of 10,500. And ticket prices for Fever/CC game avg $150 while tickets for other teams average about $50. ** Viewership numbers always mention "since the early 2000" b/c the ratings only reflect cable viewers, which was a service almost all people had & used in the early 2000.Now most people watch TV thru streaming services but streaming services do not like to share their viewership numbers, so rating will always show ratings were higher back when everyone had cable

This why women will never be president

@Donald-my3oo

21 күн бұрын

Kamala is going to be President in about 2 months

Why are you so resist, Mr. Lebatard?

You treat your face of the league like the face of the league. Id get what’s the issue about discussing when she’s bringing in views, revenue and change that’s been needed 🤦🏾‍♂️

Killer in what

its unfortunate you say the correct things while then dismissing the cc issue... you can say she isnt the best 12.. but she is top 20.. and please tell me why DT and other rookies were put on the team and cc was not..NO ONE addresses that...

When old W fans obsessively promote veterans, I’m somewhat sympathetic to their motives, but I feel their resentment

It's a league of petty, jealous and mediocre women missing layups for a couple hours. And Caitlin. WNBA and Olympic Team can go pound sand.

It's funny how regular everyday people have more basic common sense about this then a group of people who make money to talk about it.... except my boy stu!!

Men aren’t the only ones just getting here. Women weren’t watching either lol. And I hate that women are telling guys we know nothing because it’s women’s basketball. We watch how every other league runs their business and what they did when they got their version of a Catlin. Men know sports more just stop saying we know nothing just because it’s women on the court

Aja Wilson is not must see tv, stop it.

Look how these ladies get so upset when they have to talk about Caitlin Clark. Men do all the bad stuff to women. Really??? Anyone thinking Caitlin Clark is OK with not being on the USA team, doesn’t know her very well. Caitlin unlike these ladies just knows how to speak well and say the right thing.

When is the last time Dan had an actual opinion on something

🙏🏾 BEAUTIFUL QUEEN ELLE DUNCAN🌹

To the point about people coddling her - I feel like folks who are just now watching the WNBA weren’t ready to see that it’s a more physical game than the men’s side. They are closer to the 80s/90s physicality that old heads love to reminisce on, but when they see it now they get all tight. Those women are not afraid of being rough and neither should the new viewers

@lennybeason1110

21 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@jrbkett

21 күн бұрын

That might be true. I'm not sure I want my grandnieces watching Lesbian on straight woman assault. I watched roller derby in the early 70's. Watching violence between women while I am eating popcorn will have to be sold to me a little more for me to feel more comfortable. It's been established by the current NBA culture that old school Pistons Bad Boys antics were essentially cheating. "we stopped Jordan by hitting him." What basketball camps teach this during the summer? Did/Do Bill Laimbeer and Isiah Thomas do clinics at camps on how to "hit" players to stop them or send a message? Or how to be an enforcer to hit the other team back when they disrespect your star/dog/MJ. How did we go backwards? Is it since women are not as strong as the guys they can't hurt each other as much so who cares? What kind of standard is that? Player behavior during these games inform and educate the observers about our culture and our values, for your league, city, state and country. Besides, the disgusting thing is not that she is getting pushed and bullied. It's that all of this talk and feelings are out in the open. You can feel the frustration in the players when they nail her. It's payback fueled by bad feelings. There is anger toward a person who has simply done her best and is at the wrong place at the wrong time. I don't see American culture digesting this as a simple "part of the game" of women's basketball. Maybe I'm naive and out of touch.

@sarademoret425

21 күн бұрын

@@jrbkett I agree with you. In a strange sort of way they have not grown up.

@samhugh4965

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, looks like thug ball to me. I’m used to watching the NBA and not digging the WNBA at all.

@lennybeason1110

21 күн бұрын

@@samhugh4965 it’s called playing defense something that NBA has forgotten how to do because it’s soft as toilet paper now!

Wow Elle Duncan is on fire! I am buying all these alternate WNBA story lines! These women analysts are so gooood!

Hopefully Elle Duncan will be joining the Dan Lebetard show soon.

I have no real interest, I don't really follow the NBA, sure as hell not going to follow the WNBA. However, they would be absolutely foolish not to promote and protect their biggest star that has gotten more eyeballs on their product than anyone in history.

People see all the unfair bs in their life happening to Caitlin Clark and it upsets them because it's so wrong and it's relatable. Caitlin is an avatar for people, that one annoying host got that right.

@SkunkLifeMedia

21 күн бұрын

You left out 'white' in front of 'people' there buddy.

@Steve-606

21 күн бұрын

How is Clark the one being treated unfairly? She's making 80x-100x what players who are objectively better than her make in endorsements. Hopefully a rising tide lifts all boats, but she getting far more than players who are far more accomplished than her. It really says something about you if you believe she is the one being treated unfairly.

walks like a duck, looks like a duck, quacks like a duck... lets do in-depth analysis on why it's not really a duck. everyone, as in the USA, wants to see CC on the floor, not 42 year old diana taurasi, who's been to every olympics since jim thorpe. Golden opportunity to grow their brand completely ignored, and every person not emotionally entangled in ladyball sees the spite and jealousy clear as day.