As someone new coming to Christianity, I can't understand the nervousness around talking about sin. The fact that we're fallen, virtually incapable of not sinning - and that's why we need a Saviour - is comforting to me.

Thank you. This is just what I needed to hear this morning. Before I started listening I had been reflecting about how withdrawn I have become since the Lockdowns - which were stricter and went on longer in Scotland than England. I was staggered how compliant people were and how they seemed to take pride in being more cautious than the reckless English. It has left me feeling isolated and and guarded in talking even to friends I've known for years, especially at my church. Going to Mass is now more a trial than a solace. I can recognise some of this is my own pride and lack of charity and have confessed it but it hasn't shifted anything - a big dose of Sloth/Acedia I fear. Sounds as if I need to get Elizabeth's book but as she said I basically know what I should do already but it's easier to listen to another podcast or read (or just buy) another book....

@HiHoSilvey

4 күн бұрын

Go to God for the grace He freely offers. Immerse yourself in scripture, seeking Him and the power He gives to follow Him. You're not on your own relying on will power.

Thank you for another wonderful and enriching conversation. 🎉

@williamoarlock8634

2 күн бұрын

'Safe space' whining.

🙏Lovely to listen to ..🧡

I am all for preaching against consumerism and for frugality and living an unpretentious life (something I try to practice), but she lost me at climate crisis. The poor benefit from cheap abundant energy too and will be the ones to suffer the most from the net zero type policies that people who utter the words climate "crisis" typically advocate for.

Her points on avarice seem very blinkered in a sense. Many of us will never have the dilemma of whether or not to upgrade to an island kitchen unit thing or indulge in yet another pair of expensive shoes, or attend endless Pilates classes. I respect her many viewpoints and general cause though but as ever, there is a class dimension missing here.

I’ve been thinking about whether I should write anything on here. Because my desire is to be encouraging and build people up. And for most of this lovely interview there is such a rich and deep encouragement to so many. And here comes the however- the legalism that seeps into a lot of this interview is disturbing and for new and susceptible believers I think there is a vaneer placed over a strong legalism that people need to be extremely careful of. One of my main observations was the conversation about the rich young ruler. There are absolutely appropriate caveats that are given to the interaction Jesus has. That are very important. 1. Jesus always responded to the person and their situation. 2. This is not a reason to sell all you have. 3. It is to do with pride and not avarice. The language that Elizabeth uses at certain points is also very enticing but extremely condemning and without grace and personal responsibility to God. It’s not a one size fits all. What you guys are doing is fabulous and I’m so thankful for the rich and deeply encouraging conversations you folks are having with enlightened folks like Elizabeth. So I am loath to point this out, but it was deeply concerning. I do recommend speaking with Andrew Fellows at some point who has a wonderful nuanced and brilliant approach to the meaning crisis. He used to work at L’abri in Greatham. In fact Jim Paul who is the director there would also be a brilliant interviewee. May you have every continued success and bless many with the wonderful work you are doing! Truly, from a big fan!

the way the individual is defined is wrong but it doesn’t mean that the individual does not exist... when my son was born, i was struck by how complete he is as a human being... as an individual, he is complete... he doesn’t need me to add anything to him... so the individual exists... however, that individual encounters many other individuals... for those encounters to be meaningful and therefore stable, meaning is negotiated by necessity...

Yes! to all of that, and noo

Clever and nice woman

To say we are "designed" raises a lot of red flags for me, as does, "there's no such thing as an individual". Why do we always speak in binaries? And, the intergenerational "transfer of knowledge" glosses over the fact that, in the context of religion, this means ideological conditioning from a very young age. Brainwashing at worst. Not "knowledge transfer". The irony here is that, self-evidently, Elizabeth is an incredibly individual character who speaks from her personal experience. She is not speaking for a group, organisation or community. She is not constrained by communal requirements. Avarice ... why are we ignoring it?" Because the conditions we live in, politically, economically, make it extremely difficult to do otherwise. For example, I have never owned property, even a small flat. Or a car. I have no insurance. I could go on. If I had to live my life (I'm 71) again, would I do it differently? Maybe. For sure, those of us who have not indulged in a bit of avarice are worse off for it. We struggle harder to survive, to square the circle of survival and greed.

Goodness me I was so hooked on what she shared. Maybe slightly because of how strikingly beautiful she is

Yes the phrase “you are Enough” is a lie. I agree that we are designed for community but biblically God sees us as individuals: Jesus left the 99 to go after the 1.

Anything not wishy washy on this, either from hosts or contributor, please share timestamp. Hopefully not being a troll, just curious to find the gems.

@InfinityProTeam

25 күн бұрын

I respect the straightforwardness of your comment, only thing is someone’s “wishy washy” might be someone’s “intriguing”

@conspirisi

25 күн бұрын

@@InfinityProTeam true, but ultimately The Brothers Karamazov isn't Harry Potter.

@InfinityProTeam

25 күн бұрын

@@conspirisi ahah fair, I haven’t read either, would you recommend?

@conspirisi

25 күн бұрын

@@InfinityProTeam I've not read either so you've got me ;-).